Wanna know how to chase away Dracos?

[Maia Gabrial]

Sarah Stanga, MKULTRA survivor has a blog called "Taobootes".

http://taobootes.wordpress.com

According to her, this is how you chase away Dracos. They hate all things love and light. :eyebrows:

To The Reptilian Lovelies………. This Is For You ;-)
kE0pwJ5PMDg


After having some naughty Dracos come for a rather cantankerous visit and annoying me with their “we are your rulers, of your people we will crush, we own your planet” gubbins that they always come out with, and boring me to death with their pompousness, arrogance and blatant lack of a sense of humour, I decided to get my own back by telepathically transmitting to them the above love song, whilst sending them and their space ship the most sickly sweet, butter candy, cotton floss love I could muster, entwined with ribbons, butterflies and lots of flowers and love, in as sickly sweet a pink as I could find! It worked! They went packing…….. and I watched laughing my little head off as their space ship wobbled off into space again, finding it hard to keep equilibrium, it was quite a sight…… beautiful in fact! It made my day, my week, month and year. Bliss……….

To you little fiends……… enjoy, this is for you…………….<3 Mwah! and butterflies………..


I read somewhere that love is exactly the thing that will chase them away from our world. The Dracos would stay away if humanity's consciousness level of love was higher than their fear.

[meeradas]

damn... i might have some Draco blood in me.
This song always had me going for the "off" button.

[Ammit]

LMAO meeradas....

[Limor Wolf]

Hi there Maia ~

In the mid of 2006 I encountered a reptelian entity in my bedroon, it woke me up and tried to suck the life force out of my body. the first response is such a shock and terror that I doubt if anyone can possibly stay in a high frequency at the same time, even if it's not their first attack . this type of encounter (that happen to people all over the world) can be traumatic in every way, fortunately, it wasn't like that for me. I managed to gather my senses and the little energy left in me and demand that this creature (blury astral draconian like entity) will get the f**k out of my apartment. very unlike me to curse, but I used some rough language that I didn't even know that I have in my vocabulary, and it slowly loose its mental grip on me and disappeared. love was not present at those moments which seemed like eternity (but estimated at about 3 to 4 minutes).

I am afraid to fall to this superficial place where people might think that love & light is some kind of a remedy for this kind of situation, However,I believe that knowing who you are, a deep understanding that you are a soul that has the right to live without getting hurt or being threatened, as well as being assertive about those needs, just might be the right solution when coming into contact with these different (and intimidating) type of energies. I also feel that any attempt to fight back, to sting, to want to change them is completely ineffective in the long run. putting our own bounderies and not co-operating with those energies, staying balanced as much as possible , is safe enough for dealing with them. To honor but to put limits, oh, and to not judge. (something that I didn't do, but this is, the right approach, the way I understand it.)

Cheers,

[WyoSeeker]

damn... i might have some Draco blood in me.
This song always had me going for the "off" button.

Not my style of music, I'm a lifelong metal head, but you have to admire her magnificent voice. Consider her talent by thinking about how hard that song would be to cover!

[Buck]

I employ the Pink Panther protocol.

-Think of the Pink Panther and his manservant- (is it Kato? or I am mixing him up w the Green Hornet?) who are locked in an eternal and ongoing battle, with the dimwitted manservant remaining fiercely dedicated to the original mission the forgetful inspector had assigned him; he was ordered to act as antagonist- and to invest with extreme prejudice and to the maximum extent of his abilities; to attack, harass, attempt to ambush and distract at the most unlikely moments- all with the express intention of keeping the inspector sharpened and in fighting form. *

*And it comes bundled with a great soundtrack :)

It's our story really, of course our own theatrical production is a little more Wagnerian in tone (because this is serious business, as my 3 year old says:), but it's the same story at the core- We forgot that we intended this experience, WE, as in our magnificent selves, the great and mighty intergalactic star hawks that we are, have hit our heads on doorjamb entering stage left, and now we look around, blinking in the blazing bright Klieg lights, our razor sharp beaks muzzled with clown balls stuck on the tips (so we don't hurt ourselves), our wings clipped close, and wrapped tightly, bound close to our bodies, we clomp around the stage in our awkward little meat suits, waving our arms about, wondering who ARE all these scary creatures trying to attack us :)

[DeDukshyn]

Hi there Maia ~

In the mid of 2006 I encountered a reptelian entity in my bedroon, it woke me up and tried to suck the life force out of my body. the first response is such a shock and terror that I doubt if anyone can possibly stay in a high frequency at the same time, even if it's not their first attack . this type of encounter (that happen to people all over the world) can be traumatic in every way, fortunately, it wasn't like that for me. I managed to gather my senses and the little energy left in me and demand that this creature (blury astral draconian like entity) will get the f**k out of my apartment. very unlike me to curse, but I used some rough language that I didn't even know that I have in my vocabulary, and it slowly loose its mental grip on me and disappeared. love was not present at those moments which seemed like eternity (but estimated at about 3 to 4 minutes).

I am afraid to fall to this superficial place where people might think that love & light is some kind of a remedy for this kind of situation, However,I believe that knowing who you are, a deep understanding that you are a soul that has the right to live without getting hurt or being threatened, as well as being assertive about those needs, just might be the right solution when coming into contact with these different (and intimidating) type of energies. I also feel that any attempt to fight back, to sting, to want to change them is completely ineffective in the long run. putting our own bounderies and not co-operating with those energies, staying balanced as much as possible , is safe enough for dealing with them. To honor but to put limits, oh, and to not judge. (something that I didn't do, but this is, the right approach, the way I understand it.)

Cheers,

Confidence and belief are the factors at work here - dark beings must always obey light beings - humans affect reality via their consciousness. This is why our "dark humans" (fallen angels or whatever) work in tandem with reptilians. The trade-off is technology for manipulation of human consciousness via any and all means.

For me, whenever I get into a situation where my life is in danger or I have the bejeesus scared out of me, my mind goes into a certain state. In this state there is no thinking, and no emotion whatsoever - no light and no love. This is my ass kicking state (or survival state), and in it I don't even think about an end - the end comes about by my next few actions (whether ethereal or physical - I literally do not control myself in this state) but no motivation or consideration comes from my surface mind at all.

So I agree with what you are saying it's not really about sending them light and love when you're under full attack. If one finds them self in a metaphorical "Hell", one might grab a pitchfork and fight his way out, casting the pitchfork aside after it is no longer needed.

My 2 cents to add to your great post. ;)

[wynderer]

thanks for thread, Maia -- i've watched quite a few of Sarah's blogs

i agree w/Limor, from her post:

'I am afraid to fall to this superficial place where people might think that love & light is some kind of a remedy for this kind of situation, However,I believe that knowing who you are, a deep understanding that you are a soul that has the right to live without getting hurt or being threatened, as well as being assertive about those needs, just might be the right solution when coming into contact with these different (and intimidating) type of energies. I also feel that any attempt to fight back, to sting, to want to change them is completely ineffective in the long run. putting our own bounderies and not co-operating with those energies, staying balanced as much as possible , is safe enough for dealing with them. To honor but to put limits, oh, and to not judge. (something that I didn't do, but this is, the right approach, the way I understand it.)'

i've read from other people the idea of attacking w/warm mushy gooey love -- even if i thought this would work, i couldn't do that because i am not familiar w/these kinds of feelings & images -- probably a failing in me, but i don't know what that sickly-sweet 'love' feels like & would not therefore know how to project it --

Limor's reaction accords w/what Karla Turner said, that the one emotion the Greys & Reptilians really don't like in Humans is anger -- the anger that comes from this place [Limor's post again]:

'However,I believe that knowing who you are, a deep understanding that you are a soul that has the right to live without getting hurt or being threatened, as well as being assertive about those needs, just might be the right solution when coming into contact with these different (and intimidating) type of energies'.

i think that Reptilians respect the kind of mind-set, the soul-possession that Limor describes -- they live by a warrior code & respect a worthy adversary -- one who stands her ground, as Limor did -- i'm sure the Reptilian heard not just her words, but could see her energy field also, & it was easy for him to see, This one can't be cowed-- let's move on

this holds true for those who get the occasional intrusion -- for those abducted repeatedly from a young age by both ETs & our military, this also holds true, but not for the techno attacks -- also, most 3-yr-olds & 4-yr-olds are just learning who 'I' is -- hard for them to draw lines

re judging -- i judge by saying & knowing that it is wrong -- just plain wrong -- for one being ever to interfere w/another being's free will -- you'd think this would be self-evident, but there's many abductees & researchers who are eagerly carrying the message that these violations are for our spiritual growth, & that the Reps & Greys are doing this to help us

[sirdipswitch]

When you walk in your power, as an Immortal Spiritual Being Of The Highest order, NOTHING can harm you. Period. Just say LEAVE ME, and they will. Other beings, know the meaning of these commands, and they also know, that if you know these commands, that you can harm them, if they don't leave. hmm

sirdipswitch

[wynderer]

When you walk in your power, as an Immortal Spiritual Being Of The Highest order, NOTHING can harm you. Period. Just say LEAVE ME, and they will. Other beings, know the meaning of these commands, and they also know, that if you know these commands, that you can harm them, if they don't leave. hmm

sirdipswitch

this is true w/astral beings, or beings manifesting out of the astral/4D into 3D -- it doesn't work w/technology tho -- i don't know if it was the Reptilians [Dracos], our military, or the 2 working together , those nights when i was awakened every hour on the hour by what sounded like a big boat horn going BLAAATT! right in my ear-- the same way that claiming our rightful spiritual power doesn't stop bullets

but, as the real prize in this spiritual war going on is our souls, i agree that knowing that we are sovereign beings, each w/a sacred boundary that no one should cross w/o our knowledge & permission -- that's the bottom line, even if one loses a few battles

[DeDukshyn]

thanks for thread, Maia -- i've watched quite a few of Sarah's blogs

i agree w/Limor, from her post:

'I am afraid to fall to this superficial place where people might think that love & light is some kind of a remedy for this kind of situation, However,I believe that knowing who you are, a deep understanding that you are a soul that has the right to live without getting hurt or being threatened, as well as being assertive about those needs, just might be the right solution when coming into contact with these different (and intimidating) type of energies. I also feel that any attempt to fight back, to sting, to want to change them is completely ineffective in the long run. putting our own bounderies and not co-operating with those energies, staying balanced as much as possible , is safe enough for dealing with them. To honor but to put limits, oh, and to not judge. (something that I didn't do, but this is, the right approach, the way I understand it.)'

i've read from other people the idea of attacking w/warm mushy gooey love -- even if i thought this would work, i couldn't do that because i am not familiar w/these kinds of feelings & images -- probably a failing in me, but i don't know what that sickly-sweet 'love' feels like & would not therefore know how to project it --

Limor's reaction accords w/what Karla Turner said, that the one emotion the Greys & Reptilians really don't like in Humans is anger -- the anger that comes from this place [Limor's post again]:

'However,I believe that knowing who you are, a deep understanding that you are a soul that has the right to live without getting hurt or being threatened, as well as being assertive about those needs, just might be the right solution when coming into contact with these different (and intimidating) type of energies'.

i think that Reptilians respect the kind of mind-set, the soul-possession that Limor describes -- they live by a warrior code & respect a worthy adversary -- one who stands her ground, as Limor did -- i'm sure the Reptilian heard not just her words, but could see her energy field also, & it was easy for him to see, This one can't be cowed-- let's move on

this holds true for those who get the occasional intrusion -- for those abducted repeatedly from a young age by both ETs & our military, this also holds true, but not for the techno attacks -- also, most 3-yr-olds & 4-yr-olds are just learning who 'I' is -- hard for them to draw lines

re judging -- i judge by saying & knowing that it is wrong -- just plain wrong -- for one being ever to interfere w/another being's free will -- you'd think this would be self-evident, but there's many abductees & researchers who are eagerly carrying the message that these violations are for our spiritual growth, & that the Reps & Greys are doing this to help us

This may be the wrong place and time to say it ... Free will is always upheld (the perception of it from the POV of the ego is almost never) - time is not linear, and all trickles from source down through consciousness. If it happened, it was a willing participation on all levels (minus the ego). We don't always understand this, and this is why acceptance of what is, is so "hard" for us -- because we perceive from the point of the ego, yet project from a timeless state of higher self. This is the "stick on head" I withheld earlier, and is only meant for processing, not for judging. Please forgive my bluntness to your situation, but I wholeheartedly believe this and to uphold the laws of what I have come to know, this must be true.

I am not saying this from a place of ignorance - my best friend got my fiance pregnant while I lovingly took him into my home during a rough transition for him, my dad lives with cancer - I am no stranger to diversity, but this has only reinforced my previously laid out belief. Would you be here sharing on Avalon affecting and educating others? Would I be where I am today? Nothing happens without its reason - sometimes the hard route is what is needed for the greater good to all.

My 2 cents with love.

[wynderer]

'free will is always upheld' -- ??? -- i'm assuming you have not done much activist work for peace, justice, & human rights , or you would have learned by now that, in this 3D matrix -controlled planet,[ & possibly all thru 3D, the 3D/4D planes of this universe ] -- here, the strong ride all over the rights & free will of the weak -- the weakest here being your animal brothers & sisters & your children

well, the NWO nazis are about to take over Earth, so you'll have a chance to prove that you're right & i'm wrong in real time



thanks for thread, Maia -- i've watched quite a few of Sarah's blogs

i agree w/Limor, from her post:

'I am afraid to fall to this superficial place where people might think that love & light is some kind of a remedy for this kind of situation, However,I believe that knowing who you are, a deep understanding that you are a soul that has the right to live without getting hurt or being threatened, as well as being assertive about those needs, just might be the right solution when coming into contact with these different (and intimidating) type of energies. I also feel that any attempt to fight back, to sting, to want to change them is completely ineffective in the long run. putting our own bounderies and not co-operating with those energies, staying balanced as much as possible , is safe enough for dealing with them. To honor but to put limits, oh, and to not judge. (something that I didn't do, but this is, the right approach, the way I understand it.)'

i've read from other people the idea of attacking w/warm mushy gooey love -- even if i thought this would work, i couldn't do that because i am not familiar w/these kinds of feelings & images -- probably a failing in me, but i don't know what that sickly-sweet 'love' feels like & would not therefore know how to project it --

Limor's reaction accords w/what Karla Turner said, that the one emotion the Greys & Reptilians really don't like in Humans is anger -- the anger that comes from this place [Limor's post again]:

'However,I believe that knowing who you are, a deep understanding that you are a soul that has the right to live without getting hurt or being threatened, as well as being assertive about those needs, just might be the right solution when coming into contact with these different (and intimidating) type of energies'.

i think that Reptilians respect the kind of mind-set, the soul-possession that Limor describes -- they live by a warrior code & respect a worthy adversary -- one who stands her ground, as Limor did -- i'm sure the Reptilian heard not just her words, but could see her energy field also, & it was easy for him to see, This one can't be cowed-- let's move on

this holds true for those who get the occasional intrusion -- for those abducted repeatedly from a young age by both ETs & our military, this also holds true, but not for the techno attacks -- also, most 3-yr-olds & 4-yr-olds are just learning who 'I' is -- hard for them to draw lines

re judging -- i judge by saying & knowing that it is wrong -- just plain wrong -- for one being ever to interfere w/another being's free will -- you'd think this would be self-evident, but there's many abductees & researchers who are eagerly carrying the message that these violations are for our spiritual growth, & that the Reps & Greys are doing this to help us

This may be the wrong place and time to say it ... Free will is always upheld - time is not linear, and all trickles from source down through consciousness. If it happened, it was a willing participation on all levels (minus the ego). We don't always understand this, and this is why acceptance of what is, is so "hard" for us -- because we perceive from the point of the ego, yet project from a timeless state of higher self. This is the "stick on head" I withheld earlier, and is only meant for processing, not for judging. Please forgive my bluntness to your situation, but I wholeheartedly believe this and to uphold the laws of what I have come to know, this must be true.

I am not saying this from a place of ignorance - my best friend got my fiance pregnant while I lovingly took him into my home during a rough transition for me, my dad lives with cancer - I am no stranger to diversity, but this has only reinforced my previously laid out belief. Would you be here sharing on Avalon affecting and educating others? Would I be where I am today? Nothing happens without its reason - sometimes the hard route is what is needed for the greater good to all.

My 2 cents with love.

[DeDukshyn]

I think you missed a point of mine - the will of the ego is never upheld except when it comes into perfect alignment of the higher self.

I am on a different point of the path. I see no weakness - only the perception of weakness. This is my (our) strength. I stand by my words and ask that you consider them just a little more ...

Please consider that you may not be the victim you see yourself as but a helper in the change that is happening - that is happening as a result of your posts here on Avalon even.

Again with love, my 2 cents.



'free will is always upheld' -- ??? -- i'm assuming you have not done much activist work for peace, justice, & human rights , or you would have learned by now that, in this 3D matrix -controlled planet,[ & possibly all thru 3D, the 3D/4D planes of this universe ] -- here, the strong ride all over the rights & free will of the weak -- the weakest here being your animal brothers & sisters & your children

well, the NWO nazis are about to take over Earth, so you'll have a chance to prove that you're right & i'm wrong in real time



thanks for thread, Maia -- i've watched quite a few of Sarah's blogs

i agree w/Limor, from her post:

'I am afraid to fall to this superficial place where people might think that love & light is some kind of a remedy for this kind of situation, However,I believe that knowing who you are, a deep understanding that you are a soul that has the right to live without getting hurt or being threatened, as well as being assertive about those needs, just might be the right solution when coming into contact with these different (and intimidating) type of energies. I also feel that any attempt to fight back, to sting, to want to change them is completely ineffective in the long run. putting our own bounderies and not co-operating with those energies, staying balanced as much as possible , is safe enough for dealing with them. To honor but to put limits, oh, and to not judge. (something that I didn't do, but this is, the right approach, the way I understand it.)'

i've read from other people the idea of attacking w/warm mushy gooey love -- even if i thought this would work, i couldn't do that because i am not familiar w/these kinds of feelings & images -- probably a failing in me, but i don't know what that sickly-sweet 'love' feels like & would not therefore know how to project it --

Limor's reaction accords w/what Karla Turner said, that the one emotion the Greys & Reptilians really don't like in Humans is anger -- the anger that comes from this place [Limor's post again]:

'However,I believe that knowing who you are, a deep understanding that you are a soul that has the right to live without getting hurt or being threatened, as well as being assertive about those needs, just might be the right solution when coming into contact with these different (and intimidating) type of energies'.

i think that Reptilians respect the kind of mind-set, the soul-possession that Limor describes -- they live by a warrior code & respect a worthy adversary -- one who stands her ground, as Limor did -- i'm sure the Reptilian heard not just her words, but could see her energy field also, & it was easy for him to see, This one can't be cowed-- let's move on

this holds true for those who get the occasional intrusion -- for those abducted repeatedly from a young age by both ETs & our military, this also holds true, but not for the techno attacks -- also, most 3-yr-olds & 4-yr-olds are just learning who 'I' is -- hard for them to draw lines

re judging -- i judge by saying & knowing that it is wrong -- just plain wrong -- for one being ever to interfere w/another being's free will -- you'd think this would be self-evident, but there's many abductees & researchers who are eagerly carrying the message that these violations are for our spiritual growth, & that the Reps & Greys are doing this to help us

This may be the wrong place and time to say it ... Free will is always upheld - time is not linear, and all trickles from source down through consciousness. If it happened, it was a willing participation on all levels (minus the ego). We don't always understand this, and this is why acceptance of what is, is so "hard" for us -- because we perceive from the point of the ego, yet project from a timeless state of higher self. This is the "stick on head" I withheld earlier, and is only meant for processing, not for judging. Please forgive my bluntness to your situation, but I wholeheartedly believe this and to uphold the laws of what I have come to know, this must be true.

I am not saying this from a place of ignorance - my best friend got my fiance pregnant while I lovingly took him into my home during a rough transition for me, my dad lives with cancer - I am no stranger to diversity, but this has only reinforced my previously laid out belief. Would you be here sharing on Avalon affecting and educating others? Would I be where I am today? Nothing happens without its reason - sometimes the hard route is what is needed for the greater good to all.

My 2 cents with love.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

The dream state feels powerful to me, fun, adventuresome and exciting but sometimes I'm on red alert scanning for problems.
I've met reptilians in the dream state before but I had no fear, just an interesting experience. Maybe they were not of the dark persuasion.

I suspect that sooner or later, if one is looking for challenges, one will eventually meet something that seems more powerful. But permission, in the form of where attention is focused, may be a requirement for that to happen.

Feeling love, as much and as often as practical, may be a way to keep the Dracos and dark side Reptilians way. If they feed on fear, they starve or choke on love. Thinking about my two wonderful dogs that crossed over about 5 years ago brings forth so much love and tears of joy that no dark side creature would want to be nearby. That works for me.

Development of one's own sense of power feels great. During one dream I fell into a trap and called for help to escape. Help did not show up. When I called upon my own power, and felt it, I was free.

Perhaps the way to break contact with Dracos or dark side Reptilians is to develop a sense of one's own power, and the way to avoid contact is to feel love.

[wynderer]

Arizona told me that the reptilians do not appear to be that psychic, and I guess this has something to do with the lack of a fully formed emotional and spiritual level of being, and so they mind control and programme humans of particular bloodlines, like her, to perform the rituals and draw in the energies for them.

— David Icke; The Biggest Secret

if you are not one of those 'chosen' because of your bloodlines, you are all talking about things you have no experience of -- if you are not a lifelong abductee, you are all talking of things you have no experience of -- if you are not a milab, abducted by mil/intel agencies, you are all talking of things you have no experience of

Limor spoke quite intelligently from her own experience -- i'm glad to see she has good survival instincts --

when they just kind of appear to a person in the astral & pass on by, i figure they scanned you & decided you weren't 'juicy' enought -- not enough psychic/basic life energy for them to bother with

[DeDukshyn]

At the same time, it doesn't mean others' experiences have no worth.

Multiplication has no experience with division - yet the two can be associated accurately. My 2 cents, again meant with love (for whatever that is worth).

[Bright Garlick]

We have to be careful how we respond to all our archetypes - Reptilians included. Compassion for all the things we disown. :emptybath::pizza:

[wynderer]

We have to be careful how we respond to all our archetypes - Reptilians included. Compassion for all the things we disown. :emptybath::pizza:

http://projectcamelot.org/turner.html

'What Turner perceived as the deceit and cruelty of the aliens – along with the total lack of reciprocity in their actions – made her into a human rights activist who insisted that we must stand up for ourselves and seize back our souls from this rapacious, non-human species (she speculated that the aliens had developed parallel to us, on this Earth, then become transdimensional). "To accept a spiritual explanation for the abduction process and the abducting entities," she told an interviewer for Contact Forum in May/June, 1995, "is foolhardy and potentially dangerous to our souls." To another interviewer she reiterated that, if we do not rouse ourselves, "we may come to the point where we cede the sovereignty of our souls. We should stand up for our souls. I think there is a possibility of finding out how to change the situation." '

[Maia Gabrial]

In the mid of 2006 I encountered a reptelian entity in my bedroon, it woke me up and tried to suck the life force out of my body. the first response is such a shock and terror that I doubt if anyone can possibly stay in a high frequency at the same time, even if it's not their first attack . this type of encounter (that happen to people all over the world) can be traumatic in every way, fortunately, it wasn't like that for me. I managed to gather my senses and the little energy left in me and demand that this creature (blury astral draconian like entity) will get the f**k out of my apartment. very unlike me to curse, but I used some rough language that I didn't even know that I have in my vocabulary, and it slowly loose its mental grip on me and disappeared. love was not present at those moments which seemed like eternity (but estimated at about 3 to 4 minutes).

I am afraid to fall to this superficial place where people might think that love & light is some kind of a remedy for this kind of situation, However,I believe that knowing who you are, a deep understanding that you are a soul that has the right to live without getting hurt or being threatened, as well as being assertive about those needs, just might be the right solution when coming into contact with these different (and intimidating) type of energies. I also feel that any attempt to fight back, to sting, to want to change them is completely ineffective in the long run. putting our own bounderies and not co-operating with those energies, staying balanced as much as possible , is safe enough for dealing with them. To honor but to put limits, oh, and to not judge. (something that I didn't do, but this is, the right approach, the way I understand it.)

Cheers,

Hey Limor,
Somewhere in the midst of all of your swearing, there had to be some love in there. Your mind calmed enough for it to slip in there. I think people misunderstand what love is. It's not that wishy-washy thing that we show each other during romantic times. The love I'm talking about is called "omnipotent resonance". That's what people don't understand. If you think that that's weak, then you don't understand it. It's one of our powers if you want to look at it that way. Lesser beings like demons and the Dracos can't stand the vibration of it. They'll do everything they can to get away from it. This would be how to handle these types. I know. I've done it....

Now the Grays are completely different. According to Karla Turner's studies of abductees, she says the way to get rid of the Dows (Grays) is to direct hostile thoughts at them. Visualize hurting them. They run away like screaming little girls. I can attest to this because I've done it to them numerous times.
So, unless people don't mind being messed with, these are just two different techniques for handling these Regressives.


damn... i might have some Draco blood in me.
This song always had me going for the "off" button.

Me, too, Meeradas! I almost left it out of my thread. But it was so annoying that it proved Sarah's point.

[Maia Gabrial]

When you walk in your power, as an Immortal Spiritual Being Of The Highest order, NOTHING can harm you. Period. Just say LEAVE ME, and they will. Other beings, know the meaning of these commands, and they also know, that if you know these commands, that you can harm them, if they don't leave. hmm

sirdipswitch

Yes, I agree. But if a person doesn't truly believe in their own power, in other words it can't be lip service; they'll have trouble convincing those who want to step all over their sovereignty and free will.

[Kristin]

Being an absolutely sovereign being is your best bet, yes, you may loose a few battles in the astral but yo will also win a few. I had a similar experience to Limor many years ago, I got angry... it worked and the Rep left. This also happened in the daytime... so don't be fooled. I personally feel that not giving up your own personal soul or power is the most important thing that one can do. We need to be aware of the agreements that we make... even very subtle ones. Washing an entity in "Love" simply may not work. That is important to understand. We are all different and each of us has differing talents, some can bathe an entity in love with "force" and get results, however, the point I'm trying to make is that FORCE is the word of import here. In order to have force we need to be sovereign and using our own personal power with clarity of mind. Depending on ourselves and not trying to gain energy from other's who may not be user friendly. I ask this question of myself a lot, "Am I standing in my own personal beliefs that are un-borrowed?" It's a good question to ask and often.

From the Heart,
Kristin

[wynderer]

just thinking out loud here...

i think maybe i am not all about blasting Reptilians out of my personal energy space because i respect them as just another form of Life as created by the Creator -- one set of memories i am expecting to access [if enough time before coming Big Thing happens] is that of my interactions w/my particular abducting Draco

honestly, Reptilians aren't really that scary -- not much more than you Humans are -- you are extremely cruel to your Animal brothers & sisters, & extremely cruel to one another, many times, many places, many levels

[Sierra]

Being an absolutely sovereign being is your best bet, yes, you may loose a few battles in the astral but yo will also win a few. I had a similar experience to Limor many years ago, I got angry... it worked and the Rep left. This also happened in the daytime... so don't be fooled. I personally feel that not giving up your own personal soul or power is the most important thing that one can do. We need to be aware of the agreements that we make... even very subtle ones. Washing an entity in "Love" simply may not work. That is important to understand. We are all different and each of us has differing talents, some can bathe an entity in love with "force" and get results, however, the point I'm trying to make is that FORCE is the word of import here. In order to have force we need to be sovereign and using our own personal power with clarity of mind. Depending on ourselves and not trying to gain energy from other's who may not be user friendly. I ask this question of myself a lot, "Am I standing in my own personal beliefs that are un-borrowed?" It's a good question to ask and often.

From the Heart,
Kristin

Very good question. :)

How about let's use the word power instead of force? Power (to me) implies simply being who one is, while force implies coercion of another entity, and perhaps getting into a polarized struggle that would teach one's self the wrong focus and misuse of energy ... to become that which one objects to in the first place.

Sierra

[wynderer]

http://projectcamelot.org/turner.html

'What Turner perceived as the deceit and cruelty of the aliens – along with the total lack of reciprocity in their actions – made her into a human rights activist who insisted that we must stand up for ourselves and seize back our souls from this rapacious, non-human species (she speculated that the aliens had developed parallel to us, on this Earth, then become transdimensional). "To accept a spiritual explanation for the abduction process and the abducting entities," she told an interviewer for Contact Forum in May/June, 1995, "is foolhardy and potentially dangerous to our souls." To another interviewer she reiterated that, if we do not rouse ourselves, "we may come to the point where we cede the sovereignty of our souls. We should stand up for our souls. I think there is a possibility of finding out how to change the situation." '

the bolded part -- one could substitute 'psychological explanations' for Karla's 'spritual explanations' -- i see Sierra as offering a psych explanation -- psychology is one of your current human gods -- technology a big one too




Being an absolutely sovereign being is your best bet, yes, you may loose a few battles in the astral but yo will also win a few. I had a similar experience to Limor many years ago, I got angry... it worked and the Rep left. This also happened in the daytime... so don't be fooled. I personally feel that not giving up your own personal soul or power is the most important thing that one can do. We need to be aware of the agreements that we make... even very subtle ones. Washing an entity in "Love" simply may not work. That is important to understand. We are all different and each of us has differing talents, some can bathe an entity in love with "force" and get results, however, the point I'm trying to make is that FORCE is the word of import here. In order to have force we need to be sovereign and using our own personal power with clarity of mind. Depending on ourselves and not trying to gain energy from other's who may not be user friendly. I ask this question of myself a lot, "Am I standing in my own personal beliefs that are un-borrowed?" It's a good question to ask and often.

From the Heart,
Kristin

Very good question. :)

How about let's use the word power instead of force? Power (to me) implies simply being who one is, while force implies coercion of another entity, and perhaps getting into a polarized struggle that would teach one's self the wrong focus and misuse of energy ... to become that which one objects to in the first place.

Sierra

[Sierra]

To another interviewer she reiterated that, if we do not rouse ourselves, "we may come to the point where we cede the sovereignty of our souls. We should stand up for our souls. I think there is a possibility of finding out how to change the situation." '

one could substitute 'psychological explanations' for Karla's 'spritual explanations' -- i see Sierra as offering a psych explanation -- psychology is one of your current human gods -- technology a big one too


How about let's use the word power instead of force? Power (to me) implies simply being who one is, while force implies coercion of another entity, and perhaps getting into a polarized struggle that would teach one's self the wrong focus and misuse of energy ... to become that which one objects to in the first place.

Sierra

No. I consider this a battle of principalities and powers. A war at all levels of the microcosm/macrosm. A war for our souls, more than our temporary bodies. I am aware that one can become that which one abhors if one goes down the forced polarity path.

Psychology has been taken over by the PTB, as was Christianity, Buddhism, EST, Bahai, Scientology/Dianetics, actually, any practice that fosters freedom of spirit. There are still people of good will in all organizations that have been taken over by the PTB. But ... caveat emptor indeed.

Technology is not one of my gods, thank goodness. The Montauk project pretty decisively shows that technological "power" is "force" and very very bad for humans. Utterly evil. I follow the one lifetime at a time path of getting quiet, and disengaged from the hue and cry of the 3D plane, and work on my own lack of balance or awareness in complete privacy of self alone. I listen to everything but I follow the pathless path with no leader, no guru.

I am old now, and I prefer even in my food, slow cooking to technological cooking ... mmmmm ...

Sierra

[NancyV]

Hi there Maia ~

In the mid of 2006 I encountered a reptelian entity in my bedroon, it woke me up and tried to suck the life force out of my body. the first response is such a shock and terror that I doubt if anyone can possibly stay in a high frequency at the same time, even if it's not their first attack . this type of encounter (that happen to people all over the world) can be traumatic in every way, fortunately, it wasn't like that for me. I managed to gather my senses and the little energy left in me and demand that this creature (blury astral draconian like entity) will get the f**k out of my apartment. very unlike me to curse, but I used some rough language that I didn't even know that I have in my vocabulary, and it slowly loose its mental grip on me and disappeared. love was not present at those moments which seemed like eternity (but estimated at about 3 to 4 minutes).

I am afraid to fall to this superficial place where people might think that love & light is some kind of a remedy for this kind of situation, However,I believe that knowing who you are, a deep understanding that you are a soul that has the right to live without getting hurt or being threatened, as well as being assertive about those needs, just might be the right solution when coming into contact with these different (and intimidating) type of energies. I also feel that any attempt to fight back, to sting, to want to change them is completely ineffective in the long run. putting our own bounderies and not co-operating with those energies, staying balanced as much as possible , is safe enough for dealing with them. To honor but to put limits, oh, and to not judge. (something that I didn't do, but this is, the right approach, the way I understand it.)

Cheers,
Fantastic and Congratulations! Discovering that anger works as a valuable tool is important for some of us and was important to me from the time I was a child. I've talked a lot about how anger or forceful willpower is very useful on the lower astral, but it also worked for me as a child. I don't remember how young I was when I started bi-locating, maybe 5. I would rise up out of my body and just hover above it. There was often a huge dark energy, almost like a cloud, that was there above me and I could feel that it was not nice! LOL... It pissed me off and I got angry at it. My mother told me once when I was in my 20's that she was actually scared of me when I was born. Most of the photos of me as a child have me with a scowl on my face.

Perhaps I was born with that energy in order to be able to protect myself from these dark energies that I encountered when I floated above my body. I would IMMEDIATELY get angry and blast them with anger and they would retreat. Even when I was a teenager, around 13-14 I would leave my body but never go beyond the ceiling of the room I was in. I could do this while wide awake and in school. It was so boring that I had more fun looking down on everyone from the corner of the room.

My older sister was an angel but she was a bully magnet. I began protecting her when I was in kindergarten and she was in 1st grade. I had to threaten and even hit quite a few girls (mostly) throughout the years who loved to torment my sister. They were all afraid of me. So I had to learn at an early age not to be intimidated and to fight back against those who tried to hurt my sister. No one ever tried to bully me, at least not more than once. LOL...

When I got older and learned to cuss I found that using the F word and some other choice swear words helped focus the anger to blast away any negative beings. I didn't start traveling into the astral until I was 34 and while in the astral the tool of anger worked on some of the lesser demonic type beings. But it only worked with the lesser negative beings. It was when I merged with the LOVE that I found it worked for the most powerful beings. But that doesn't mean that I totally discarded the use of anger/force, at least in the astral or while in body.

Some beings respond more quickly to powerful, perhaps "righteous" anger, and it's not always easy to use love effectively against negative beings while here in a human body. Well, maybe it's easy for SOME, but I seem more inclined to use both force/power/anger AND love, depending on the situation. One thing I don't do is allow anyone to tell me I should be like them. We each are unique in our characteristics that suit us best and I accept who I am and feel no guilt or shame about anything. If you feel guilt or shame you can be sure it will be used against you.

[DouglasDanger]

They also dislike being laughed at....
Point at it and laugh while saying "your a joke, now leave before you make me angry",
Anger works, but showing to much anger also keeps the benevolents who maybe watching at bay as well, because anger attributes to violence.. ;)

Take this next statement with a grain of salt,
I think people have Love mixed up with Positive energy. Love is a form of postitive energy not unlike the postive energy of kindness, but love can also be used for negative things.. Like the Zeople ( zombified people) giving all thier loving energy to (unbenounced to them) a corrupt government orby giving love and support to a local radical dictator, By them giving them thier loving support it gives the coruption/madness a forward push which is a negative reaction to a postitive action.. So I would recomend instead of focussing love at a negative entity, focus your thoughts more on positive kindness, and do not run after them with your arms out spouting "I love you come get a hug" it may back fire them thinking they are Usher/puff Daddy, and you the screaming fan...

[Rantaak]

Dealing with astral beings is not very different from dealing with ones in the physical. If you fight them, they will fight you. If you befriend them, they befriend you.

I personally do not understand how a lesser reptilian being could even exist on the astral, due to the baseness of their energetic makeup (probably what keeps them away from me)... All of the "dracos" I know are living as humans right now - most of them are pretty nice guys, good musicians too. Let me see if I have this straight?

Reptilian - orc-like violent thuggish brute without mammalian or neo-cortical emotions
Drake/Draco - younger royalty of the reptilian order, much stronger than reptilian goons
Dragon - Royal bloodline, older than time, too powerful to mess with, try and be their friend... or otherwise................. they also tend to be gendered and elemental, each gender and element having different characteristics

[Maia Gabrial]

Last night, I got a visit by a Draco. Imagine my surprise. And he wasn't very nice. He threatened me and said that I was dead. I didn't love bomb him the way Sarah Stanga did her visitors, but something came over me that felt very loving. I countered everything he said to me. The coward left in a huff. :becky:
Like I said, they hate the vibrations of love.
Don't underestimate Ominipotent Resonance. Btw light is a byproduct of it.

[Jules]

You mentioned Turner. I just watched an interesting lecture from YouTube. Here is the Dr. Karla Turners last lecture:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKbOpTMmnNg&feature=related

She died shortly after this lecture, and her comments at the end of the lecture where interesting. That government seems to want control or information from people abducted by UFO's, but don't really seem to have control over the UFOs. Interesting... I think it is important to listen to people that are harassed or may have died because they wish convey something that they feel it is important for people to know. I like to listen to them the most.

[Maia Gabrial]

You mentioned Turner. I just watched an interesting lecture from YouTube. Here is the Dr. Karla Turners last lecture:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKbOpTMmnNg&feature=related

She died shortly after this lecture, and her comments at the end of the lecture where interesting. That government seems to want control or information from people abducted by UFO's, but don't really seem to have control over the UFOs. Interesting... I think it is important to listen to people that are harassed or may have died because they wish convey something that they feel it is important for people to know. I like to listen to them the most.

Hey Jules,
Karla Turner died under suspicious circumstances. That sounds like murder, doesn't it? She was silenced because she was bringing good information forward. She's where I got my idea on how to deal with Dows....Workable knowledge.

Her lectures were very informative. I'd recommend everyone listen to them; especially abductees.

[Jules]

Thank you Karla,
She also mentioned a group of people with like experience help each other more than the government, or agencies as such. Per her analysis, We don't have control of our body, but we still have control of our thought, if we turn our fear into anger, especially directly toward them, it is uncomfortable to them. Imagining things happening to them in our mind, as well is not comfortable to them. Fear or strong emotion while under their control seems to motivate activity.

[Maia Gabrial]

Thank you Karla,
She also mentioned a group of people with like experience help each other more than the government, or agencies as such. Per her analysis, We don't have control of our body, but we still have control of our thought, if we turn our fear into anger, especially directly toward them, it is uncomfortable to them. Imagining things happening to them in our mind, as well is not comfortable to them. Fear or strong emotion while under their control seems to motivate activity.

I put it to the test. It works!

[Limor Wolf]

Originally posted by DeDukshyn:"Confidence and belief are the factors at work here - dark beings must always obey light beings"


Hi DeDukshyn, Thank you. I am familiar with that certain state that you are relating to, when your mind goes into silence, no thinking, no emotions, just strong focus on the ' here and now' :) , it usually occurs in those rare situation when we feel we are in danger.
something caught up my attention, though, in your above sentence, please forgive me for my tendency to dwell on semantics..

The idea that dark energies must always obey the light may not necessarily be true, It pulls us into this energy of playing power games, same old, same old. it also devide us into sides. if that idea was true, then my dark part would have long ago surrender to my light part, but, unfortunately this is not what happens. they are both living together side by side within me and they are both a part of me. but I very much agree that confidence and belief are key.


Wynderer, I know that you are on a vacation, but I hope that you will soon return to be among us.


Originally posted by Wynderer: "i've read from other people the idea of attacking w/warm mushy gooey love -- even if i thought this would work, i couldn't do that because i am not familiar w/these kinds of feelings & images -- probably a failing in me, but i don't know what that sickly-sweet 'love' feels like & would not therefore know how to project it -- "

I doubt if it's a fail in you, it is probably your inner compass that tells you according to your own personality what is right and what is wrong for you, Kristin said that most accurately in her post above. I must say I sympathize with this feeling too, but, who knows, there might be some kind of a concentrated pure and true love to be given, not just this 'mushey gooey love' , maybe I am not there yet to be able to give it myself in these circumstances.

The Reptelian mind-set respects the 'warrior' attitude, it is probably appropriate to adapt to their energies and respond to the situation from that point of view, we do this on a day to day basis when adopting our energies to that of others, consciously or unconsciously but there is something about that combination of giving respect along with putting some bounderies (if needed) that seems to be the right attitude on any given situation with any type of entity/person. It always works. and of course, ideally, it is also positive to add emotions of love and understanding to whoever it is we are facing, and however they want to effect us. our own desire seems to have a great influence on a situation, it could be helpful if we knew how to channel it and use it while these types of threatening encounters occur.

Hi Maia,

I am happy that we are able to discuss this, when sharing our individual experiences we can gain common knowledge on how to deal with these type of situations, thank you very much for this thread. All in all, I guess there are different reactions to different persons.

Could be that this is not about doing something or not doing it, but more about- being that thing rather than not being it. I hope it makes sense. maybe something else that is needed is to hold a high level of integrity, maybe it is another thing that can be enough of a threat for them since it holds a different frequency than they have, I don't know, this is something that we can all consider together.

At the beggining of 2006 a conscious contact began for me with energies from other realms, not necessarily what we call Aliens, although, these were also in the picture earlier in my life. I began to recieve guidance and knowledge and I've been helped to walk the path I needed to walk and meet the people I needed to meet. But I had to recover from very dark entities that played havoc in my life. I can only assume that there was this battle of good and bad on me at this time of awakening and it manifested by this reptelian creature coming to 'visit', or maybe it was some kind of a test, who knows.

although it all sounds quite dramatic, there are many people having such experiences, as you yourself know, and others. it turns out that this earth planet is a sought after playground, and some of the players are invisible, which up till now has given them a great advantage. I don't know, maybe I am not right, but something tells me that we better use some common sense when encountering these entities and beings by not being drawn to their mind control games or responding with manipulations from our side, I have read today this following sentence and I sound it very true:

Triumph and disaster are two imposters - there is something quite right about this, I believe.

[Jake]

(Kristin said) "Being an absolutely sovereign being is your best bet, yes, you may loose a few battles in the astral but yo will also win a few."

My sentiments exactly!!!

Kristin,,, what a blessing to have you as a part of the mod team. Welcome!!! What an amazing experience,,, no??

Limor, Thank you for your courage to tell a bit of your story. When dealing with any form of malevolent being or draco,,, it is important to keep in mind that they can only exist as a construct of YOUR reality. Meaning that they must seek out and manipulate YOUR understanding of reality. (And they are quite savvy at what they do!)

That is what it means to 'stand in your own power'... If one truly knows his or her own self,,, then there is no room for exploitation of any aspect of yourself.

If one is waiting around for ET,,, or Jesus,, to save them, then they have prepped themselves for exploitation. YOU have to save yourself!!

Standing in your own power reflects an innocents that is completely unfamiliar to the 'dracos'.

There is a Youtube video floating around of an infant that is in front of a King Cobra. (if someone has the time, please find the vid and post the link) The infant is reaching out for the snake, and the snake is standing at full attention!! The cobra keeps striking at the infant, but does not ever actually bite the infant. IMHO,, This is the innocents that cannot be undone!!

Stand in your own power!!! You may lose a round or two,,, (builds character)

Love to all... (we are almost there!!!)

[ThePythonicCow]

Kristin,,, what a blessing to have you as a part of the mod team.
You've got that right, Jake!

:) :cow: :)

[Sierra]

(Kristin said) "Being an absolutely sovereign being is your best bet, yes, you may loose a few battles in the astral but yo will also win a few."

My sentiments exactly!!!

Kristin,,, what a blessing to have you as a part of the mod team. Welcome!!! What an amazing experience,,, no??

Limor, Thank you for your courage to tell a bit of your story. When dealing with any form of malevolent being or draco,,, it is important to keep in mind that they can only exist as a construct of YOUR reality. Meaning that they must seek out and manipulate YOUR understanding of reality. (And they are quite savvy at what they do!)

That is what it means to 'stand in your own power'... If one truly knows his or her own self,,, then there is no room for exploitation of any aspect of yourself.

If one is waiting around for ET,,, or Jesus,, to save them, then they have prepped themselves for exploitation. YOU have to save yourself!!

Standing in your own power reflects an innocents that is completely unfamiliar to the 'dracos'.

There is a Youtube video floating around of an infant that is in front of a King Cobra. (if someone has the time, please find the vid and post the link) The infant is reaching out for the snake, and the snake is standing at full attention!! The cobra keeps striking at the infant, but does not ever actually bite the infant. IMHO,, This is the innocents that cannot be undone!!

Stand in your own power!!! You may lose a round or two,,, (builds character)

Love to all... (we are almost there!!!)

Here ya go Jake! :hug:

4OR--0zJoIs

[Limor Wolf]

(Kristin said) "Being an absolutely sovereign being is your best bet, yes, you may loose a few battles in the astral but yo will also win a few."

My sentiments exactly!!!

Kristin,,, what a blessing to have you as a part of the mod team. Welcome!!! What an amazing experience,,, no??

Limor, Thank you for your courage to tell a bit of your story. When dealing with any form of malevolent being or draco,,, it is important to keep in mind that they can only exist as a construct of YOUR reality. Meaning that they must seek out and manipulate YOUR understanding of reality. (And they are quite savvy at what they do!)

That is what it means to 'stand in your own power'... If one truly knows his or her own self,,, then there is no room for exploitation of any aspect of yourself.

If one is waiting around for ET,,, or Jesus,, to save them, then they have prepped themselves for exploitation. YOU have to save yourself!!

Standing in your own power reflects an innocents that is completely unfamiliar to the 'dracos'.

There is a Youtube video floating around of an infant that is in front of a King Cobra. (if someone has the time, please find the vid and post the link) The infant is reaching out for the snake, and the snake is standing at full attention!! The cobra keeps striking at the infant, but does not ever actually bite the infant. IMHO,, This is the innocents that cannot be undone!!

Stand in your own power!!! You may lose a round or two,,, (builds character)

Love to all... (we are almost there!!!)

Here ya go Jake! :hug:

4OR--0zJoIs


Let me give you a 3D response -

Where is the mother of this kid?? :suspicious:

[Jules]

LOL. I was thinking the same thing. Surviving by the seat of your pants, but wait you don't even have any pants. I have always depended on the kindness of cobras with adults laughing in the background. Get that kid some drawers, and don't put him/her in front of toxic animal/s. Maybe it's just me. But I don't think this is the answer to the worlds problems. My 3D response for what it is or isn't.

[Maia Gabrial]

Just when the cobra wraps itself around the baby's neck, the filming ends...Sssss. They must have finally started worrying for this little one. I have to admit I had a morbid fascination watching this. Wonder what they were trying to prove...?

[Limor Wolf]

Hi there Maia ~

In the mid of 2006 I encountered a reptelian entity in my bedroon, it woke me up and tried to suck the life force out of my body. the first response is such a shock and terror that I doubt if anyone can possibly stay in a high frequency at the same time, even if it's not their first attack . this type of encounter (that happen to people all over the world) can be traumatic in every way, fortunately, it wasn't like that for me. I managed to gather my senses and the little energy left in me and demand that this creature (blury astral draconian like entity) will get the f**k out of my apartment. very unlike me to curse, but I used some rough language that I didn't even know that I have in my vocabulary, and it slowly loose its mental grip on me and disappeared. love was not present at those moments which seemed like eternity (but estimated at about 3 to 4 minutes).

I am afraid to fall to this superficial place where people might think that love & light is some kind of a remedy for this kind of situation, However,I believe that knowing who you are, a deep understanding that you are a soul that has the right to live without getting hurt or being threatened, as well as being assertive about those needs, just might be the right solution when coming into contact with these different (and intimidating) type of energies. I also feel that any attempt to fight back, to sting, to want to change them is completely ineffective in the long run. putting our own bounderies and not co-operating with those energies, staying balanced as much as possible , is safe enough for dealing with them. To honor but to put limits, oh, and to not judge. (something that I didn't do, but this is, the right approach, the way I understand it.)

Cheers,
Fantastic and Congratulations! Discovering that anger works as a valuable tool is important for some of us and was important to me from the time I was a child. I've talked a lot about how anger or forceful willpower is very useful on the lower astral, but it also worked for me as a child. I don't remember how young I was when I started bi-locating, maybe 5. I would rise up out of my body and just hover above it. There was often a huge dark energy, almost like a cloud, that was there above me and I could feel that it was not nice! LOL... It pissed me off and I got angry at it. My mother told me once when I was in my 20's that she was actually scared of me when I was born. Most of the photos of me as a child have me with a scowl on my face.

Perhaps I was born with that energy in order to be able to protect myself from these dark energies that I encountered when I floated above my body. I would IMMEDIATELY get angry and blast them with anger and they would retreat. Even when I was a teenager, around 13-14 I would leave my body but never go beyond the ceiling of the room I was in. I could do this while wide awake and in school. It was so boring that I had more fun looking down on everyone from the corner of the room.

My older sister was an angel but she was a bully magnet. I began protecting her when I was in kindergarten and she was in 1st grade. I had to threaten and even hit quite a few girls (mostly) throughout the years who loved to torment my sister. They were all afraid of me. So I had to learn at an early age not to be intimidated and to fight back against those who tried to hurt my sister. No one ever tried to bully me, at least not more than once. LOL...

When I got older and learned to cuss I found that using the F word and some other choice swear words helped focus the anger to blast away any negative beings. I didn't start traveling into the astral until I was 34 and while in the astral the tool of anger worked on some of the lesser demonic type beings. But it only worked with the lesser negative beings. It was when I merged with the LOVE that I found it worked for the most powerful beings. But that doesn't mean that I totally discarded the use of anger/force, at least in the astral or while in body.

Some beings respond more quickly to powerful, perhaps "righteous" anger, and it's not always easy to use love effectively against negative beings while here in a human body. Well, maybe it's easy for SOME, but I seem more inclined to use both force/power/anger AND love, depending on the situation. One thing I don't do is allow anyone to tell me I should be like them. We each are unique in our characteristics that suit us best and I accept who I am and feel no guilt or shame about anything. If you feel guilt or shame you can be sure it will be used against you.

Hi Nancy, thanks ! very interesting.
It sounds as if anger was helpful to you in your life. I believe there is no need to change things that serve us well, I wonder if you also feel that it failed you at times?

I personally gained a lot of anger in life, my childhood environment was surrounded with anger, I always felt that it was a poison to everyone around, but to the person himself. people who react with anger get to throw their trash out and go blithely while they leave behind an unpleasant odor.. it is funny how we absorb things to ourselves but I had to deal with anger issues myself later on, just to show you how our surroundings has an impact on us.

About dark entities and astral level, the best tool, I feel, is not necessarily anger, but indifference, and when you want them to leave you alone you simply tell them that, in an unambiguous tone. assertiveness ,you will probably agree with me, is a great tool in the right time and the right place.

I guess what I am trying to say is that, our world is polluted not only by wastewater and air pollution, but by a contamination of thoughts and feelings, I wouldn't say that I am proud that I ' lost it' towords this intimidating visitor but I am not feeling ashamed as well, it was useful back than, today I might find different tools to cope with this type of situation. or maybe not ;)

I salute your perceptivness, Nancy, on when is the right time to use a firm reaction and when to behave with love, two sides of the same coin, some will say. everything depends of course, on the balance of power between two parties, there is no use in bows and arrows to 'kill someone' that simply bothers you like a mosquito, and coming to think of it, there is no use to kill at all, there are much more sophisticated ways that are required, and nowdays we are slowly learning it, step by step.
Now, that might be considered a real winning