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Skywizard
30th August 2012, 01:31
While surfing the internet on UFOs I ran across this where Stanton Friedman was on during the second half of Coast to Coast AM Tuesday night and he talked about overwhelming evidence of ET visitation. “The evidence is overwhelming that planet earth is being visited by intelligently controlled extraterrestrial spacecraft. That doesn’t mean all UFOs are alien spacecraft”, Friedman said.
Friedman has been interested in UFOs since 1958 and is the original civilian investigator of the Roswell Incident. He believes the government has been hiding information about UFOs and alien visitation since the incident. He is also known for his efforts toward government disclosure, which he doesn't see happening anytime in the near future.
I for myself have mixed feelings about discloser. For one, gripreaper posted this in one of my older threads, “If the truth came out, it would totally disrupt the current religious and economic paradigm. The true origins of our species, as well as the slavery inherent in the electric and oil cartels, would no longer be tenable, as people would see through the religious lies and the energy slavery.” I myself feel that the government probably would lose a lot of power, control and trust over the people than what they have now. I guess the only best way for it to happen is to let the aliens do it.
Friedman also mentioned that he wishes we had a better television system that would give us factual information instead of just entertainment.
You can read more about the show at Examiner.com.

ghostrider
30th August 2012, 01:54
Not only visiting, some live here, some live underground. The lights in the sky are a distraction, keep you looking out there for ET instead of looking closely at the people around you. Check out Jerry Wills expeditions tv, and James Horak emv blogspot.com.

apokalypse
30th August 2012, 02:07
i don't believe in disclosure all happen at once, more than half of human population on earth not ready for it unlike people like us who are ready and have participate on so called Conspiracy Theorist by the Mainstream.

On the topic of Aliens and UFO all the people i have talked to they do believe it but once the truth come out they still get this shock reaction. how these people react with the news that there's a advance civilization live underground or middle earth for over a century?

Chakra
30th August 2012, 06:18
Not only visiting, some live here, some live underground. The lights in the sky are a distraction, keep you looking out there for ET instead of looking closely at the people around you. Check out Jerry Wills expeditions tv, and James Horak emv blogspot.com.

I would swear that a whole heck of a lot of them moved to and now live in Vancouver BC lol I have often jokingly stated (well maybe more seriously really) that if you think your weird just come to Vancouver and I swear you'll begin to feel normal. For every person that thinks their crazy I can point out 10 people on the street at any given time that will be way more crazier than you could ever be. Basically it is all relative though I suppose. But we do have all kinds here that's for sure!

nomadguy
30th August 2012, 06:39
"If the truth came out, it would totally disrupt the current religious and economic paradigm."

OR is it that if we found out the truth we would begin to free ourselves from their grasp.. hence the rush to squelch it.

sigma6
30th August 2012, 06:40
While surfing the internet on UFOs I ran across this where Stanton Friedman was on during the second half of Coast to Coast AM Tuesday night and he talked about overwhelming evidence of ET visitation. “The evidence is overwhelming that planet earth is being visited by intelligently controlled extraterrestrial spacecraft. That doesn’t mean all UFOs are alien spacecraft”, Friedman said.
Friedman has been interested in UFOs since 1958 and is the original civilian investigator of the Roswell Incident. He believes the government has been hiding information about UFOs and alien visitation since the incident. He is also known for his efforts toward government disclosure, which he doesn't see happening anytime in the near future.
I for myself have mixed feelings about discloser. For one, gripreaper posted this in one of my older threads, “If the truth came out, it would totally disrupt the current religious and economic paradigm. The true origins of our species, as well as the slavery inherent in the electric and oil cartels, would no longer be tenable, as people would see through the religious lies and the energy slavery.” I myself feel that the government probably would lose a lot of power, control and trust over the people than what they have now. I guess the only best way for it to happen is to let the aliens do it.
Friedman also mentioned that he wishes we had a better television system that would give us factual information instead of just entertainment.
You can read more about the show at Examiner.com.

Wow gripreaper said that? Talk about nailing it... so what exactly would be wrong if we exposed all this, except a class of degenerate parasites would lose their positions of brutal power, and their criminal cabals would fall, people would wake up and we would enter into a golden age of scientific discovery and spiritual awakening... damn that sounds so wonderful, I can almost taste it!!!

The only thing that drives me nuts about Friedman was his big dump on Bob Lazar, like what the he** was that??? It seemed like 'physicist envy' or something, and it was really confusing me at the time because he seemed so spot on about everything else at the time, but his 'attack' on Lazar was just shameful and really held the whole movement back... it just felt like it created this huge resistance in the public perception, a psyop counter propaganda campaign against the whole UFO alien conspiracy movement couldn't have been more effective at dividing the public opinion against Lazar at a more critical time... again... what the he** was he thinking!!!?? (how he could have this blind spot, just never sat well with me... ) Like couldn't he get off his arse and go down and hang with Lear and Lazar and just have a couple beers and do a Youtube? now that would have been awesome!.... but noooooooooooo! (LOL)

kemo
30th August 2012, 08:21
I think people can handle disclosure, though will depend to some extent on how it's done. But whether we can or can't, IMHO we have a right to know the truth. Do really want politicos deciding what you should or shouldn't know - which they do of course. I think virtually anyone given a choice would rather know the truth.

Skywizard
30th August 2012, 14:21
I think Bob Lazar was very brave and courageous, sigma6. It took a lot of nerve to expose the secret that he did. I don’t think he (or Lear) were looking for fame and fortune. He actually risked his life to do this and I’m sure he knew that. It sure didn’t take that long for it to go away, if you know what I mean. Hats off to Bob!

nomadguy
31st August 2012, 04:45
With as many people as there are today with some experience in this(UFOs, Abduction, ET contacts etc), it seems to me that disclosure may happen through the common people. And that this might be inevitable. And this also could be a further reason for the PTW to hurry up and close up shop.

Litenites
31st August 2012, 21:19
Religion was one of the first control systems over the human race, now we are more secular we are controlled more by legislation, peer pressure and economic and political systems. Complete disclosure about our Alien presence might be enough to shake people out of the systems of control. It also makes them feel superior , knowledge is power.