Something to talk about!

[Nickolai]

Well, hi!

Let's talk...

Why? I asked myself casually from time to time: why do I see that threads that ask for a real actions come though noticed but without involvement.
People, most of members here are from the States, and no matter where the roots of the problems are: in the physical, in the astral or on some different star nevertheless we do live here on earth, Earth, Gaya, Gaia...whatever, earth.

My question is why the threads that ask for involvement escape itmestreriously.
Examples?
Here you are:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48703-Daniel-declared-innocent-two-years-ago-still-in-prison.-Help-requested.
This thread got 505 views and only 6 replies (!). Some thank yous to OP from the thankful members. That's hard to tell, did the viewers actually sign the petition? I am questioned.

Then, there was this: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48684-Tony-Nicklinson-denied-the-right-to-die-please-sign-his-petition
Got views 1172, replies - 37

Then: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48664-In-Support-of-Bradley-Manning-Courageous-USA-Military-Whistleblower&p=547174&highlight=manning#post547174
Views - 550, replies - 9. The latter is a total eclipse of my mind, american citizens.
The thread is actually me dialoguing with the OP. How come?

I ask myself a question. What that can mean. Does it mean that people read through the original post and they do not care? Do they care but afraid or not willing take the action. Or they just do not like the author of the thread ???

There is not even enough thank yous, you see? (Hey moderators, that where you should get busy. Teach people to say Thank Yous. That's important for it incourages people to post here, OK? Please do not get lost in the dirty laundry. Hopefully it's not much of a laundry here, just a little bit, ah?)
OK, back to the business...
What do I mean? The Manning thread takes 550 views and nearly no reply.... Means either the thread is dust, or people do not agree with the author, or they care not, or they somehow... (Manning thread was Wyn's).
Those threads ask for attention. First of those asked for petition signing. Does that mean that people do not care? Your opinions, if I may ask. And yes, I understand, that we are free willed. But what if we just do not care, or maybe we do, we really really do care but just a little lazy to whisper our opinion even here, on Avalon.

Manning case is blowing my mind. Most of the members are the US citizens. Why not involved? Cos he's gay? Cos he's disinfo agent as Assange that's why we do not care (I love it on the forum!)? Can you tell me the difference between him (the Manning who seem to do a real whistleblowing or it seems so, but can you be 100% sure that it's disinfo?) and those that whistle but somehow blowing not the real thing and always always always are hiding and secretive. This guy at least in the prison, and rumors are circulating that he suffers tortures.

My question is guys and girls what the sense of blaming the PTBs, if in the real life we show so little concern about things we can do. Why, you the US people care more about those three littlke stupid hooligans who rightly called themselves pussies then your own suffreing men? I wonder....

Petition, is it difficult? Show us (me) how to support Manning cos I like this guy but I am abroad. And keeping in mind the huge *ss he got himself into (cos he cared).

I know there are Astral Sex threads so I do not expect much attention to this theme.

But I am intrigued what the responses I get.

Nickolai

PS I just reread what I have written and see lots of 'mean' and 'question' words. So, I am desperately questioned. Help!

[ulli]

I feel the general consensus is that we are powerless.
Also the sheer amount of conflict situations or evidence of injustice can be completely overwhelming.
So what are the priorities? Can a group even come together who are single-minded about any one thing?

I believe the forum would need to have at least 100,000 members
to develop various small groups of people for each particular issue who could organize an action plan.

[Nickolai]

Thank you, Ulli!

Then we could brain-storm the way out of this consensus reality? Just a thought?
I have just looked and found out that there are 5600 (almost) members. Ok, that's a phantasy to come with the brain-storming with all those members but...
Well, I just show the way I am inclined to go. No matter how silly that may sound (I allow myself:p) probably the signing of the petition of the Tony and Daniel by PA members set the wheels of freedom in motion. Imagine.
You know Lynn McTaggart? while here on the PA there was a thread why the Intention experiment required registration and there was a concern about TPTB finding out who is who on PA (LOL), the Lynn's idea is that the intention sets in motion circumstances for the benifit of the one who intends.

And to me, BTW, Ulli, you do not seem to be powerless. No, no way!

;)

Nickolai

[RunningDeer]

These days I am feeling overwhelmed. My commitment to assist in the way I am able was to raise my vibrations while I also send Reiki healing out to Mother Earth and her children. I put my money where my mouth was and left a secure job, and put my personal life on hold. Of late, I am mourning these decisions and the acceptance stage can't come soon enough.

The more I discover, the more I feel ineffective. I'm juggling keeping up with threads and personal research, meditations, and contemplations. It all feels incomplete and I'm loosing ground. I actually cancelled my eye doctors appointment for today, and next months yearly check up. If someone told me they did that, I'd say it's time for an intervention. But these years have flew by and now I'm counting down the months, it's overwhelming to assist even myself much less the world out there. And BTW: I'm learning and relearning and learning and relearning that there is no world out there.

For the record, I don't skip threads because of an OP. I don't post because it's a topic that I don't have enough knowledge about or others just post it better than I do. And I've signed petitions and even donated to causes. But I get scores of spam emails, junk mail and phone calls. I've smarten up and use a fake phone number, but I'm feeling like I mine as well live in a post office box. That way I can just rubber stamp "return to sender, please save a tree".

Thanks for listening, Nickolai. This is not written in a derogatory tone. In fact, you should send me a bill. :wave:

[christian]

I feel the general consensus is that we are powerless.

:pound: -- That was a good one.


Also the sheer amount of conflict situations or evidence of injustice can be completely overwhelming.
So what are the priorities? Can a group even come together who are single-minded about any one thing?

Yeah. I could sign petitions 24/7 and still would miss some. I do sign some occasionally.


I believe the forum would need to have at least 100,000 members
to develop various small groups of people for each particular issue who could organize an action plan.

Well the number of people with an interest in becoming self-responsible and creating a new paradigm is growing, there's an avalanche coming.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1fiubmOqH4

[Nickolai]

Dear WhiteCrowBlackDeer ,

What you have said feels so true to me as well. I am undergoing a major shift of my life. But do not panic.
There is a guy in the states, called William Tiller, professor at Stanford University. Actually quite a famous guy.
Here is his article where you will find the exercise that has helped him with the eyes problem.
Have a try: [PDF]http://www.tillerfoundation.com/White%20Paper%20XV.pdf[PDF]

WhiteCrowBlackDeer, I strongly hope it will help and encourage you to try. If you interested in the guy search for him on youtube. He is something special!

Stay very well!

Nickolai

HELP How can I incert the PDF file? PLease!

[ulli]

I was talking today to someone who had never heard of Ayn Rand, nor her book "Atlas Shrugged"...
And told her the gist of the story, how a guy has this free energy invention and realizes that he cannot possibly let it become known, as the world was run by corrupt people who would steal his invention and misuse it to entrench even deeper with their evil power base.
So thats where humanity is now...that book was so prophetic. Atlas no longer holding up the world, but letting it drop.

So the solution in the story was to focus on building a new world, on allowing the processes of decay to run their course.
This is what I got from the book. Prepare for better times, life will go on. No point in trying to do battle with the situation. Instead to use all of one's power and energy to be creative of one's immediate world, become self sufficient, make off-grid communities, and be mutually supportive.
By being utopian, and each sharing their personal unique vision of utopia with their friends until these visions merge into a whole new earth reality.

[Nickolai]

WhiteCrowBlackDeer,

Try the incerted link, it works!

[Nickolai]

Ulli,

That's true. I do not propose fight. Futile!
I agree the change comes with changing our perception but that does not contradict with what I said. When the hand is needed we should give it.
That's it!Probably give just a little bit and probably this bit is all is finally needed. Am I romantic or delusioned but in my life I seen things that prove my point (but again for me).
The whole talk about try and do.

Nickolai

[RunningDeer]

Dear WhiteCrowBlackDeer ,

What you have said feels so true to me as well. I am undergoing a major shift of my life. But do not panic.
There is a guy in the states, called William Tiller, professor at Stanford University. Actually quite a famous guy.
Here is his article where you will find the exercise that has helped him with the eyes problem.
Have a try: [PDF]http://www.tillerfoundation.com/White%20Paper%20XV.pdf[PDF]

WhiteCrowBlackDeer, I strongly hope it will help and encourage you to try. If you interested in the guy search for him on youtube. He is something special!

Stay very well!

Nickolai

HELP How can I incert the PDF file? PLease!

Thank you, Nickolai. I wasn't familiar with Dr. Tiller. I've bookmarked him and will hav-a-look. I checked out the pdf and also found a great vid on Dr. William Tiller talking about how the goal is to "inner self manage". This is the pdf link you requested - "Preventative Medicine and Self Healing via One's Personal Biofield Pumping and Balancing (http://www.tillerfoundation.com/White%20Paper%20XV.pdf)"

I've done Tai Chi since 1988, and also am aware of pressure points around the eyes. So the pdf article is a good reminder for me to use them. It was just a yearly eye check up. There are no problems. I'm feeling like what Dr. Tiller explains about energy work (Chi Kung/Tai Chi), and I'd add through right foods, detox, I am in control of my health. I've only listen to several minutes of his vid so far, Tai Chi is also good for balance of brain hemispheres and left and right sides of the body connections.

The main problem is that I've got too much time and energy invested in those magic dates of December 21, 2012 and now March 21, 2013. I want to make sure I've exhausted all possible avenues, toss out the irrelevant, tap into inner knowing and have total recall of why I am here. Here, I'll say it for you...."Is she nuts? Especially, that last part...total recall?"

It's almost time to take my own advice: just live. You already know. Everything is emmerging in it's own time. :wave:


William Tiller On Chi How Intentions Effect the World - Part One


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWfMxRQ0AHU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWfMxRQ0AHU&feature=related

[bennycog]

if there are other websites to visit within post or a start of a thread ill usually thank the poster maybe then visit the site..
if i spend awhile on the site ill most likely not get back to the original post. unless there is more i would like to add. it does not mean i am not interested. and when you do come back there is always something else that drags you off so you can find info on it..

i think all threads good or bad that have been started are great in one way or another..
an example is me posting on this thread now.. i was not taken away by anything that has been posted on here.. so i stayed and read and contributed..
some poeple can contribute by seeing some info and maybe talking to family or posting on their fb or by going through a string of articles and videos just because of one thing they have seen on here, and it may never get back to the poster..
i think we all acknowledge each other as a part in the new revolution.. trying to work out how peacefull it will be is a tough one :)

[ghostrider]

With rapid energy changes like never before , browsing the threads and being guided by spirit, the ones that catch my inner eye, I will speak my thoughts. I can't speak for all , but for me , somethimes I don't want to muddy the water , some may take it the wrong way and avalon has had enough divisions/distractions, so thats pudding I will not stir ...I have started writing my thoughts and went back and deleted what I was going to say , people are just in too big of a hurry with the demands of life to take precious moments to sit down really open up and see what happens when you are really free to speak your thoughts. not to mention the psy attacks on certain areas that make you drowsy when two minutes before you were fine. Saalome.

[jjjones]

ullie and pa friends, just a fyi--- ayn rand was phillip rothschilds mistress. is it possible that is why "atlas shrug" is prophetic? just a bit of trivia. namaste, peace and love universally :)

[ulli]

ullie and pa friends, just a fyi--- ayn rand was phillip rothschilds mistress. is it possible that is why "atlas shrug" is prophetic? just a bit of trivia. namaste, peace and love universally :)

I didn't know that.
I did know that she was courted by lots of lovers, all belonging to an intellectual elite.
Also that one angle of her books was exytremely anti socialist,
as if on the rebound from her native (communist) Russia.

[Nickolai]

JJJONES,

I really hope that your post had a hidden meaning otherwise I find it offensive.

Nickolai

PS Can you explain what is the connection to the theme of the post... Gosh, I am really fed up with the forum

IMPORTANT UPDATE:
JJJONES. my appologies! That was stupid of me. Forgive me kindly please!

Nickolai

[RunningDeer]

JJJONES,

I really hope that your post had a hidden meaning otherwise I find it offensive.

Nickolai

PS Can you explain what is the connection to the theme of the post... Gosh, I am really fed up with the forum

Hi Nickolai,

Fed up with the forum or certain threads? It's been my experience that there are threads that heal, teach and are fun. One of which is the "Here and Now (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=547673#post547673)" thread. There are diverse conversations, photos, vids, music, healings, and fully supportive Family.

I'd point to others, but I don't know what your interests are. I'm checking other threads out because it's time for me get out of my comfort zone and expand my point of view.



Gosh, I am really fed up with the forum

My advise is take a break...be kind, rewind. And/or come to the playground of the "Here and Now (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=547673#post547673)". They serve up a lot of chicken soup for the soul. Ulli, who you've met here, is the Originator. The first anniversary is coming up in a couple of weeks. It's over 900 pages old.



Gosh, I am really fed up with the forum

Know that I, for one, would really miss your kind approach to those you touch. I've experience this first hand. I can't begin to say how timely it was that you came along when you did. BTW: Remember, send me the bill. :wave:

With heart,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[Nickolai]

Dear WhiteCrowBlackDeer,

Thank you for your understanding and compassion.
Indeed, the full moon does blow my mind and keeps me irresponsibly over-emotional. Besides much stuff goes around me and as I told you I undergo the majorest shift of my life...
But we will make it. don't we?

It feels very warm to be cheered up by you,

You are wonderful,

Nickolai

[music]

JJJONES,

I really hope that your post had a hidden meaning otherwise I find it offensive.

Nickolai

PS Can you explain what is the connection to the theme of the post... Gosh, I am really fed up with the forum

Hi Nickolai, there is a connection in that the conversation moved to Ayn Rand, then logically, because any conversation is a living entity in it's own right, jjjones added an aside (info not pertinent to OP, but of interest in relation to a reply). If Ayn Rand is being held up as a visionary intellectual, then whether or not she was a Rothschild mistress is important, because this would mark her and her ideas as part of the NWO agenda. The agenda (partly) is to have one world government where a much reduced population is ruled over by an financial and intellectual elite. This is to be "International Socialism", as opposed to the National socialism of Nazi Germany. In fact, I see Hitler's regime (funded by Wall St Bankers, with Rothschild dominated cartels providing weapons of mass destruction) as a practice run for the NWO. Capitalism and Communism are the two poles of a Hegelian dialect (thesis + antithesis = synthesis), with International Socialism as the synthesis. Lenin and Trotsky, btw, were also funded by the Rockerfeller foundation. Yes, this digresses from your original OP, but I thought your comment to jjjones was a little unfair, particularly since they did not even first mention Rand.

[Nickolai]

Music,

Look up the thread. I totally agree with you. I was carelessly swept away by my emotions. I begged the pardon.
Thank you for pointing out, Friend!

Stay well,

Nickolai

[music]

Music,

Look up the thread. I totally agree with you. I was carelessly swept away by my emotions. I begged the pardon.
Thank you for pointing out, Friend!

Stay well,

Nickolai

Nickolai, you have just demonstrated a greatness of spirit :wizard: Thank you for being you, and thank you for being here.

Love and blessings to you, Friend.

[ulli]

If I may introduce another distraction, Nickolai.
This is a movie called Meetings With Remarkable Men, made by Peter Brooks, in 1978.
It deals with the questions you raised, although in an indirect manner.
The conversation above reminded me of the tea house scene in this video, which starts at 55:00 minutes.
Gurdjieff and the Russian, Prince Lubovedsky.
I thought maybe you could be a Russian prince yourself, with those impeccable manners.

Enjoy the film!

uYhv0O0gUTk

[applecrusher1992]

I have trouble helping myself also. And the sad part is that I am pretty successful in my life right and nothing in retrospective has gone seriously wrong. I should be a happy young college kid and because of my position in life I don't have any debt from that. Yet I am just upset about everything lately. The false promises of things that have not "yet" come true both good and bad. Although it could be a good thing the bad things not happened. The ignorance of people around me. I even complained annoyingly about how long the waiter at a restaurant down the street from me took to get a new glass of water. And this is just a reflection of stress and negative energy I have about the current world situation. I also spend way too much time living in the past and future and not enough in the present. Currently to solve this I am trying to visual a positive future for myself and that has helped me a lot. I have trouble living in the present because I do feel the pain and suffering of others and this pain makes it hard for me to live in it. I also have self esteem issues that I am trying to work with. I am currently getting myself ready for the worst and hoping for the best. I think we will all be grateful and happy when eventually make it through our dilemma but when that will be or even in our lifetime I don't know. IMHO I think it will be in our lifetime and probably sooner than later. More people will and are waking up to the truth because the truth rings in the minds of all people even those that have been told lies their entire lives. I don't regret much although I sometimes do regret thinking terribly of other people.

These problems are why it is so hard to stand up for what I believe in. And some of my beliefs I know would alienate people that I do admire, good people, but because they are brainwashed they think I am crazy and it is just hard to deal with that when you have all the other issues out their to worry about. I am sorry for the small rant but I am sure many of you feel the same way. I hope everyone enjoys their journey wherever they go.

[jjjones]

nickolai, you were forgiven the moment i read your response, that is why i didn't reply back. we all have misspoken at one time or another. that's life and being human. also today's stressful energy in the world has many many people on edge. nickolai my friend, just keep being you and doing the best that you can do. don't leave pa and let us enjoy and learn from you. never expect anything, a person is just rising to fall, but accept things as they are and one won't be as emotionally effected. anyway expect and accept can make a big difference in one's life, makes it a little easier for everyone. this is just my opinion/belief. my pa friends whitecrowblackdeer and music, thank you so much for your replies in my behalf & your caring is much appreciated, again thank you. nickolai, whitecrowblackdeer and music be well and my best wishes to each of you. namaste, peace and love universally :)

[Nickolai]

JJJONES,

That was a very kind reply.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart!

Warmly,

Nickolai

[jjjones]

applecrusher1992, rant applecrusher rant. you are in the same boat on this rough sea of life with everybody. you aren't alone. everybody has a burden. Please look a reply #23 a reply of mine. i believe that it may be useful to you. The road to awareness has many bumps and sharp turns. one has to go with the flow of the road to begin to see when to observe, slow down and learn. Life is constant change. it sure is nice to hear that you are educated, debt free of school loans, nothing in your life has gone seriously wrong and you are pretty successful. all of these things are important in ones life, but as you see that's not the answer to your troubling feelings. it is an important factor for one to know who they are and who they are not. really take a good long look into yourself (this is not easy to do when done with unadulterated honesty) and you will in time learn that the qualities good, bad and indifferent in others are also in you. why the low self-esteem issues? we are all cut from the same cloth with the same scissors. regarding the ignorance of people, they really aren't "ignorant", they are temporarily blinded and are trying to find their way. they are in the "process" of growth. The world is over flowing with turbulent negative energy and the pain of the people certainly can be felt and seen. some of the things happening can be halted if the people of the world unite and peacefully as possible stand up for world wide human rights and wake up to the fact that they are not seeing the real truth. your journey here was mapped out for you when you arrived regarding karmic learning, good or bad. everyone definitely experiences the lessons they have come here to learn, there is no way out of that. the other part of your life is your free will and choices that only you can make. so why worry and pressure yourself about things that you can't change or have control of. don't fret about those thinking you are crazy regarding your beliefs. it isn't hard to stand up for what you believe in---just "believe". your beliefs are part of you and your journey here. i have put a different twist on the words of jfk, ask not what one can do for themselves, but what one can do for others. this will bring a much more fulfilling and happier life. sorry if i went on a rant and i didn't mean to be offensive. i hope that my reply in some small way help you in your journey in life. remember that life is about service to others not service to self and it's not the years of your life that count, it's the life in your years that count. best wishes for you and take care. namaste, peace and love universally :)

[jjjones]

nickolai, my heart is with your heart we are all one family! :)

[rgray222]

I ask myself a question. What that can mean. Does it mean that people read through the original post and they do not care? Do they care but afraid or not willing take the action. Or they just do not like the author of the thread ???

The fact that someone has taken the time to start a conversation here is always a good thing. I can assure you that several topics (certainly not all) that are read by many but replied to by few may get much more attention then you will ever know about. When someone raises a call for action it certainly could fall on deaf ears but I can also guarantee you that several topics go on to a much wider distribution then the Avalon Family. Several people will occasionally read the thread and take action. Many people do not want to tell you what action they are taking. Not everyone feels a need to tell this community what they are doing or what they have done in the past. Many people prefer to stay in the shadows and be anonymously effective. That is just the way of many people.
So please don't mistake a lack of replies to a lack of caring or a lack of action. Transparency should be mandatory for public figures and governments but it is not a requirement (nor should it be) for private people wishing to keep their affairs private!