The Apology Thread

[music]

In this environment, as we learn and grow, we will all make mistakes, or rather, not act from the higher perspective. This can cause hurt or offence, yet most often this is not intended.

Hence this thread, wherein we can offer sincere apologies to any we have hurt. A place to make peace, and a starting point from which to move on.

I will start the ball rolling. Not long after I joined here, I intentionally baited Jackovesk to make a point I felt was valid at the time. He did not deserve that kind of treatment, and Jackovesk, I sincerely apologise for that. I had a problem with your "style", but of course as in all things, the problem was actually with something within myself. That incident has soured all our subsequent interactions, which is a shame. I respect your integrity and commitment, regardless of whether we are in agreement, and value your contributions here.

Some might feel funny about a public apology, but there is no reason that this thread can not catalyse the energy of apology within us that we can then send out. Be aware, however, that if we have greatly hurt or offended another, they may have a block up to us, and may not receive this energy.

Love

[Ontarioguy]

Good for you to have started this thread music! Anyone can tear down another...thats easy enough....but it takes someone with a BIG heart to feel the urge to come forward and apologize. I do more reading and observing than posting, and therefore cannot imagine that I have hurt anyone's feelings in Avalon...however, if I have in any way...by any means I do Apologize and please know it is not something done intentionally. I enjoy Avalon and yeah it is "entertaining" at times haha, but hey, it keeps us coming back I find ..so long as nobody is hurt then it is all good.

[modwiz]

I did my mea culpa here, http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48823-split-from-Horus-Ra-thread-discussion-of-conduct-on-that-thread&p=542790&viewfull=1#post542790 back on the 21st.

[RunningDeer]

"I’m sorry for using you as deflection for my own pain and anger. For several weeks, there were lots of revelations and triggers from both the Horus-Ra threads. This isn’t an excuse for my public rant; just a clearer understanding for myself..."

"...I am aware also that it was easy to single you out because you represent for me ‘a safe place to fall’. It still doesn’t excuse my behavior. I wanted you to know, though unaware at that time, you were the safest way to to break free of the pain and hurt. Which over these last several days have only served to cause a different kind. I’m deeply sorry..."

With heart and love,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[bluestflame]

makes the process more bearable if we exercise a little self control and don't make it personal in the first place i know that can be a hard thing when the emotions get behind the steering wheel

[music]

I did my mea culpa here, http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48823-split-from-Horus-Ra-thread-discussion-of-conduct-on-that-thread&p=542790&viewfull=1#post542790 back on the 21st.

And a fine mea culpa it was :) In fact I considered including the words mea culpa as a sub-heading, but having been raised a Catholic, I decided not too because they are associated with guilt, which in my mind is the most unuseful of concepts. But hey, that's my stuff. For the record, I never saw that thread, so no need to apologise for stealing your thunder, but I admit I have strayed from tough love territory into harshness with you on two ocassions from memory, and would like to apologise to you also. Modwiz, I am sorry if I have disrespected you. You make a good point in the thread you linked to about humour. We can frame things in a humourous way in our minds, but when they are read in the starkness of words without the cues of facial expression, our words can be easily misconstrued. I guess that's why they invented emoticons :)

[lookbeyond]

And i would like to apologise to targeT for sarcastically telling him his name suited him when emotions were running high (from my side anyway) re the cinema shooting thread,

lookbeyond

[markpierre]

I apologize for human thinking being lost in it's own imaginings. Stupidity is a given, and the past is firmly and securely gone. Aren't we silly for believing our thoughts have anything to do with reality.

No one owes anyone anything.

[Tony]

I apologise for not having the guts to stand up to life sooner!

Better late than never.

[danceblackcatdance]

yeah likewise, i apologise to myself for being scared...

[ghostrider]

makes the process more bearable if we exercise a little self control and don't make it personal in the first place i know that can be a hard thing when the emotions get behind the steering wheel

brilliantly stated my friend.

[ghostrider]

I apologize for earthlings being selfish and greedy and war minded. To the extended community of ET's , don't judge us by our leaders they are insane. the rest of us do the best we can with ten percent brain availibility, when we are not spending our time working to pay for energy. Saalome.

[RunningDeer]

I apologize for human thinking being lost in it's own imaginings. Stupidity is a given, and the past is firmly and securely gone. Aren't we silly for believing our thoughts have anything to do with reality.

No one owes anyone anything.


No one owes anyone anything.

Hello MarkPierre,

From the greater perspective, I agree. For me, it's freeing and cleansing to reach deep and go beyond the fear of vulnerability, whether the other accepts what I have to share.

No one owes anyone anything.
From the greater perspective, I agree. It's simply, Love/Absolute/Light/God/Whatever Name You Use.

With heart,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[music]

WhiteCrowBlackDeer: For me, it's freeing and cleansing to reach deep and go beyond the fear of vulnerability, whether the other accepts what I have to share.

Beautiful, thank you. Whether or not the other accepts? A heartfelt apology does not have an expiry date - we can pick it up later if it serves our journey to do so. There is no judgement.

[markpierre]

No one owes anyone anything.

Hello MarkPierre,

From the greater perspective, I agree. For me, it's freeing and cleansing to reach deep and go beyond the fear of vulnerability, whether the other accepts what I have to share.

With heart,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

Do you know the greatest respect you can pay a gorilla is to turn your back on him? It has to do with trust.

[RunningDeer]

No one owes anyone anything.

Hello MarkPierre,

From the greater perspective, I agree. For me, it's freeing and cleansing to reach deep and go beyond the fear of vulnerability, whether the other accepts what I have to share.

With heart,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

Do you know the greatest respect you can pay a gorilla is to turn your back on him? It has to do with trust.


Do you know the greatest respect you can pay a gorilla is to turn your back on him? It has to do with trust.

Hello MarkPierre,

I wasn't aware of that. Then I need to invite a gorilla into my life. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/orjnfq.gif I'm a work in progress on that front. I keep on keeping ...
It seems their others I've encountered that could use some gorilla friends, too. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/SEVeyesC08_th.gif

Not deflecting blame. It's just that I grow tired of understanding from the thinking mind perspective to the point where I am a bore.

I grow impatient for the days where we all come from the heart-place, and know it's from 100% loving intentions when we share. Myself included here, I still got dark places to shine a light on. And from the greater perspective, I understand, too, that it begins and ends with me.

With heart,
Paula


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Lighthouses/lighthouse-1.JPG

[markpierre]

Do you know the greatest respect you can pay a gorilla is to turn your back on him? It has to do with trust.

Not deflecting blame. It's just that I grow tired of understanding from the thinking mind perspective to the point where I am a bore.

I grow impatient for the days where we all come from the heart-place, and know it's from 100% loving intentions when we share. Myself included here, I still got dark place to shine a light on. And from the greater perspective, I understand, too, that it begins and ends with me.

With heart,
Paula



Hard for me to imagine you ever being offensive to anyone, so I'd regard it as the same process we're all invested in. The continual check and recheck of our relationship with ourselves.
That's what all of those images are for, (or were they there to prove us wrong and weak and unworthy?) There is no right and wrong in anything, you surely keep that card in reserve.
But in the end that card trumps guilt and liability and accountability and blame.
You, and no one, is accountable for the content of a dream.
But we carry on and carry the tone and timbre of our changes into the next confrontation, and meet it as we always have. With new unrecognized comprehension, because we're different.
Your integrity keeps pace with your changes.
I like that cleansing effect of confessional and I practice it a lot, but who am I confessing to? Some 'other' who doesn't comprehend the changes either, and doesn't need to?

Just be careful that in our 'apologies' we don't undo some needed confrontation in another. I can't take back what I can't know the purpose of. I think that's where trust might be useful.
And respect for the process and true needs of others.
No one, and I mean no one is privy to the challenges that Soul agenda has planned.
There are no more advantaged in that regard. Only in the developing awareness that nothing is without a true purpose. Even our private tiny self protection works within a plan. I look at the world and I'm devastated. No greater perspective will save bodies and places marked for destruction, nor my own. Don't stop at boring, wait until 'thinking' is completely devastated.
Let it be undone.
We'll have to wait for a greater Self to show us what a Real world should look like. But more like what it 'feels' like. It's not missing, nor lagging.
Respect is a given, not a gift. If it isn't universal it's nothing, and it can't exclude ourselves. The little self that needs to know it's safe.
The ego is just a wounded animal.

[RunningDeer]

Do you know the greatest respect you can pay a gorilla is to turn your back on him? It has to do with trust.

Hello Mark Pierre,

I've read and re-re-read your post. This would be an example of how a forum without, tone, gestures, and such, really makes communication difficult for me. I did come away with some important points. One of which is below on confrontation.


That's what all of those images are for, (or were they there to prove us wrong and weak and unworthy?)

Yipes! Over analyzing... Or maybe me?

I didn’t have a gorilla picture, so I figured that everyone would know those silly pictures are a substitute, NOT "or were they there to prove us wrong and weak and unworthy?" And the lighthouse picture is a metaphor for me to shine light on MY dark places within.


Just be careful that in our 'apologies' we don't undo some needed confrontation in another. I can't take back what I can't know the purpose of. I think that's where trust might be useful.

For me, trust is a given unless intention demonstrates otherwise. And it is developed and refined over time.


Hard for me to imagine you ever being offensive to anyone,

I’d like to think not, but I am human with blind spots, like everyone else.

Peace,
Paula

[SilentFeathers]

I have nothing to apologize for, at least nothing I can think of today anyways. If anyone can think of anything I need to apologize for please let me know and I will take it in to consideration....and if I feel I should apologize, then I will.

In the meanwhile I will not worry about it....

[jessamy99]

I am sorry for all the times I spoke, but did not say how much I love you.
I am sorry for those missed opportunities when a word could have meant so much more.
So, while I am here, I want to reach out to you all and let you know that I recognise that light within you.
I give you love, and wish I could provide all that you need.
With love.
Jessamy.

[CdnSirian]

Sheesh all above...

I reached for the kleenex on the Gorilla thing. I got a sudden flashback to the movie where Sigourney Weaver plays Diane Fossey and she finally is able to get close to the alpha gorilla and he lets her touch his hand. (yeah the hand they cut off to sell for an ashtray. ) In short, I am humbled to have you all for company.

All these smilies and no peace sign? :tea: Tea will do!

[AriG]

Sitting here with a lump in my throat and tears welling up, I would like to extend my deepest apologies to WhiteCrowBlackDeer for having been so reactionary in a thread yesterday. I asked WCBD if she would share more about herself with me and she graciously pointed me in the direction of some of her favorite posts that would enlighten me as to who she really is. I have read four posts now and am humbled and inspired by her strength as as I mourn for her losses, I celebrate her soul. If I had taken the time to read her history before over-reacting to her post, I most certainly would have approached from a different and gentler perspective.

This is an awareness moment for which I owe WCBD a huge debt of gratitude. Lessons learned. I will never react without knowing the person. I am sorry WhiteCrowBlackDeer. Please forgive me. As you so astutely stated in one of your posts, " I am Human Becoming "

With Love,
Ari

[pugwash84]

Apologies to anyone I have upset without knowing it (sometimes I don't know when I hurt people because at times I am a bit blunt).

[RunningDeer]

Ari, you are beautiful and gracious and kind. I look forward to sharing. Poof...and moving onward.

With heart,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer


Revolution of Evolution


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Sitting here with a lump in my throat and tears welling up, I would like to extend my deepest apologies to WhiteCrowBlackDeer for having been so reactionary in a thread yesterday. I asked WCBD if she would share more about herself with me and she graciously pointed me in the direction of some of her favorite posts that would enlighten me as to who she really is. I have read four posts now and am humbled and inspired by her strength as as I mourn for her losses, I celebrate her soul. If I had taken the time to read her history before over-reacting to her post, I most certainly would have approached from a different and gentler perspective.

This is an awareness moment for which I owe WCBD a huge debt of gratitude. Lessons learned. I will never react without knowing the person. I am sorry WhiteCrowBlackDeer. Please forgive me. As you so astutely stated in one of your posts, " I am Human Becoming "

With Love,
Ari

[noxon medem]

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apologies for not having
the time these days to take
proper care of my relation
to this forum ...

- anyway , or how .....

Practical matters engage most of my energy (time)
- and my contributions are scarse and diverted ....
( mostly ..).

Do read as a guest often , and enjoy AF community .

Be Well , All .

nm

[conk]

I would like to apologize to the world for being an azzhole for many years. It took a devastating loss to clear my mind and spirit, and to create the man I am now. So, strangely enough, I'm also very grateful for the loss. To hear my children say "we like the new daddy much better" at once chilled my heart and flamed it.

None involved look back. Onwards and upwards at a tremendous pace! <insert outrageously appropriate smilie>

[Peace of Mind]

Great thread and idea.

My apologies to anyone I’ve may have unknowingly offended. I realize that everyone is wired differently and this sometimes may lead to indifferences of opinions/views. My intentions are always pure and aimed at getting the truth out and in, sometimes by more extreme means than some people are accustom to. If you have found anything in my posts and/or natural being to be appalling, close minded, or antagonizing… it is in my heart to make clear that I’m deeply sorry for those false impressions. I will deeply appreciate it if you continue to exercise your brilliance in patience and dignity.

Peace

[noxon medem]

I would like to apologize to the world for being an azzhole for many years. It took a devastating loss to clear my mind and spirit, and to create the man I am now. So, strangely enough, I'm also very grateful for the loss. To hear my children say "we like the new daddy much better" at once chilled my heart and flamed it.

None involved look back. Onwards and upwards at a tremendous pace! <insert outrageously appropriate smilie>

- found this on a quick search on the opposite ..
( another image , of course ..).

18413

Nothing to do with current leaders
and politicians in electiontime .. ...
, of course .....

- or ..
What to do ...

( You decide )

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[music]

I offer an apology to 9eagle9 for innapropriate remarks during the Duncan thread. While the gist of my argument holds, and comments I have received from others are verbatim, I concede the possibility that I am wholly or partially mistaken, and I never should have strayed from commenting on actions into the personal arena. I have never stopped admiring or respecting your many good qualities, or you as a person - my remarks should have been constrained to my preception of your behaviour only.

[RunningDeer]

I offer an apology to 9eagle9 for innapropriate remarks during the Duncan thread. While the gist of my argument holds, and comments I have received from others are verbatim, I concede the possibility that I am wholly or partially mistaken, and I never should have strayed from commenting on actions into the personal arena. I have never stopped admiring or respecting your many good qualities, or you as a person - my remarks should have been constrained to my preception of your behaviour only.

Dear Music,

I admire how you are not afraid to be vulnerable and call yourself on nonproductive comments.

Thank you,
Paula

[jackovesk]

I will start the ball rolling. Not long after I joined here, I intentionally baited Jackovesk to make a point I felt was valid at the time. He did not deserve that kind of treatment, and Jackovesk, I sincerely apologise for that. I had a problem with your "style", but of course as in all things, the problem was actually with something within myself. That incident has soured all our subsequent interactions, which is a shame. I respect your integrity and commitment, regardless of whether we are in agreement, and value your contributions here.


Just saw this thread for the 1st time...

Not that there was any need for it, apology accepted Music...:thumb:


I had a problem with your "style"..!

Gotta laugh at that one :pound:, (Join the Club) your not the only one who has felt that way during my time here...:yes4:

Being in the 'Truth' business is not all beer and skittles and your definately going to upset someone along the way...:noidea:

All I can say to anyone here posting, don't even worry about it...

If you feel as your posting the 'Truth As You Know It', getting out the info to as many people as you can. Then someone who 'Challenges You' personally or &/or your 'Info/Opinion', 'Bullying' doesn't even come into the equation for me..:nono:

It's not about me or anyone of us, its about the 'Truth As You Know It'...:yes4:

PS - To (All Avalonians) Never be afraid to admit when you've got it wrong (I have on several occassions), the 'Truth' is the only thing that matters and admitting you got it wrong, sometimes may even quell the argument before it even gets started...:yo:

PSS - If you ever think any situation here is getting out of hand, a simple PM does wonders in relieving the tension. If after that there is still some agnst or anamosity, move on and pay it 'No More' attention...

[Wind]

I'm sorry. Please forgive me. I love you. Thank you.

[music]

Thanks folks. Jack, especially welcome, though we disagree there are many times when my initial disagreement disappears once in full possession of the facts. And that is what we are here for, after all, to grow, to be assisted in our growth, and to assist others.

[music]

My, seems I'm doing a lot of apologizing lately! I would like to apologize to Paul for playing verbal hardball with him on a recent thread. I found a comment of his had the potential to be destructive, so I countered the words in a way that strayed close to the arena of personal attack (though in my opinion and intention they were not). Paul, I have a great deal of respect for you as a person, and as a moderator, and I apologize if my words annoyed/hurt/unsettled you in any way. Your input on matters that are your forte have been invaluable to me, and many others, I just felt that the particular topic in question was not one of your areas of expertise. But then, none of us can be expert in everything :)