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Jayke

2nd September 2012, 08:52

Manly P Hall has done extensive research into the Atlantean Hypothesis culminating in his 10 hour audio presentation where he talks about evidence of an atlantean civilisation in the myths and legends of every culture across the planet. One of the things he points out is that there isn't a single culture of people that live today that take responsability for the founding of their own civilisations, every single group of peoples on every continent have myths or legends passed down to them by their ancestors of how they inherited the basics of society and civilisation by advanced beings of gods that came from the sea and taught them art, maths, law, cooking, astronomy, architecture etc.

Part 1A of his presentation (Atlantean Records in Greece & Egypt) can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72uWfHObzRs

The other 9 parts discuss the myths and legends of Atlantis found around the various continents of the world including India, china, Africa, Polynesia, Europe and Ancient America.

Atlantis was once a great sea faring civilisation that had colonies all over the world, according to Manly Hall they had colonies that spread out from their homeland, a continent in the atlantic ocean that is now submerged, and as they migrated they would go into battle with any people that stood against them. Most opposition were easily overcome but he does point out that the Athenians in Greece were the only group of people that challenged them in battle, it was during this battle with the Greeks that their homeland sunk under the ocean and so instead of finishing the battle they most likely retreated back to Egypt where they established a more permanent colony.

Akrotiri as you've pointed out on the map could well be the location of the colony that was established as they were battling the Greeks, although Atlantean culture at that time would have been much more vast and spread across many continents rather than just focused in one area.

Anyway, download Manly P Halls stuff. Definitely worth the 10 hour investment if Atlantis is as much a curiosity to you as it is to me.

Jayke

2nd September 2012, 09:27

Here's a copy of my notes from the 10 hour presentation, some parts need fleshing out and listening to again but may be of interest to some:

1.A

Shadowy interval between the prehistoric and historic world that we know, we’re unable to trace the emergence of civilised man as we know him.
Platos story of Atlantis came from one of his disciples who in turn heard it from an old Athenian law giver named solon, 600BC one of the 7 wise men of Greece, yet not included among philosophers or scientists, he was a statesman, bound by political and physical problems of his society.

Solon visited Egypt out of respect for their skilful handling of legislature yet during this trip the priests of sais communicated to him the legend of Atlantis.

The atlantic invasion of the Greek states occurred about 9000 years before the birth of solon to date it around 11,500 years ago.
According to the Egyptians the atlanteans attempted the conquest of Europe and in the course of this conquest they moved without opposition until they reached the greek area and here they had their first serious adversary. Back then armies moved as a complete migration of social structures. So instead of being perturbed by the destruction of their homeland they seemed to disappear, it’s possible yet uncertain if they set up the state of Egypt.

Plato alludes to the fact that the caldeans were the merchant cast of the atlantean people, leaving remnants of the caldean philosophy within the culture of all they traded with.
Even the Greeks tell that their culture was brought to them by a mysterious figure from an ancient race. None of the ancient civilisations take responsibility for the founding of their own culture, they all say they inherited it from an ancient race. (53:00) Peoples from elsewhere came with leaders and established higher cultures of order in primitive cultures. A story that is scattered all throughout the earth. All these cultures developed around identical institutions yet with their own local cultural twist. Glyphs and words are identical in both Egypt and Maya demonstrating a migration of ideas around the globe. A powerful influxion of world culture.

1.B
The destruction of atlantis was caused by the princes who departed from the divine principles there forefathers had laid down before them to follow as they travelled and colonized the seas.

(13:00 – a list of culture they passed on to primitive cultures)

The same story is told in 40-50 scattered culture groups, yesterday we were savages then this man came and then no longer were we savages, we were civilised. Knowledge did not evolve but was given to them as a kind of birthright.
The great creative principles of life.

2.A

According to oriental sources humanity began over 1,000,000 years ago the pro genitors of the Aryan race moved through central asia as a wandering nomadic people who conquered the world.
Mongolian was atlantean and china was Aryan.

Battle between light and darkness, new and old, youth vs the aged. Island of selon associated by indian scholars with atlantis.
Deluge in Chinese equals the water of oblivion, means the blotting out of the way of life, the rise of darkness, a fall from wisdom. A psychological deluge of darkness rather than a physical deluge of water.
Glorified aspect of shamanism found in bosnia.

3.B

Rememebered by eskimo, native of south pacific, native Indians of Americas all cultures remember the golden age, then a silver age, bronze age and finally the fall to the iron age, the age of death. These four seasons of ages are later known as the four horseman of the apocalypse.

4.A

Migration of the lemmings points toward their suicide swimming out into the ocean and drowning, a power, a driving force behind this species that force it into the ocean to its imminent death, it is assumed they are following an ancient route that was a land route at the time of the maritine period, that they have never been able to overcome the instinct to follow an old order of the earths arrangement. Always expecting to find land, never expecting to die. Seeking of another land beyond the water.
7 great Gods, 7 great ideas

Buddhist monks from asia reached ireland (UK) at a very ancient time.

Druid remains from welsh records state Stonehenge was a monument created from the gods of previous ages. They claim they found stonhenge they did not build it.
Heraditus states the builders of the pyramid started at the top and built down. How is that possible? Built defying the laws of gravity.
Carnac in Brittany western france another megalithic stone structure built by ancients.

4.B

(22:00 – Atlanteans were perhaps closer to the Mongol than any other type than we have today)

5.A

Central America, great rabbit took a canoe and led his people out to the east, cherokee people and nors people talk about pilgrimages and journeys to eastern shores. East off American coast was found the continent of atlantis.

The four god birds, such as the thunder bird god of rainstorms is at its core a Chaldean belief system.
Many Mayan words are identical in type and meaning to that of Egypt also some strong correlations to asia.

5.B

Mayans are really called the itzas, whose patriarch is itzamna the father of the itzas who saved them from a land of where they came and saved them from the gods of waters, carried them safely across the great deluge and brought them to the western hemisphere. Which indicates why the mayan calendar begins in the 7th cycle, the previous 7 cycles most likely occurring in the mayans original homeland, that of the continent of atlantis.

Leaf 74 of the manuscript Dresden represents the mayan glyphic representation of the sinking of atlantis.
Quiche tribes popul vu initiation into the tribe they had to go through the same experiences as the race of their people had to go through, they had to swim through a river of blood and a river of mud before entering the initiation temple.

Incas came from asia possibly founded by Japanese colony who were drove off their island by aggressive storms. Pre-incas in Peru claim to have ancient records of ancient language lost thousands of years ago. Primitive people with no literacy weeping for the loss of their lost written language through oral traditions and storytelling. They declare that the gods of men walked among us, the incas arrived as nothing more than proud aborigines compared to the great pre incan civilisation that existed long before their arrival.

(25:00 – the great nobility of the pre-incans setting world records for times of peace, 500 years without war)

Code of the Iroquois indians the most successful and advanced system of law as certified by professors in the prestigious universities of Oxford, was originally an atlantean belief system preserved by the Iroquois due to a belief that one day the sea god who gave them the law would return and if his peoples were not following the law exactly as he left it then he would abandon those peoples and leave them to their own ruin.
(44:00 rites of passage into magic)