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Cidersomerset
2nd September 2012, 17:14
Mit Romney ramping up pressure for attack on Iran.....If the Republicans get
elected the Neo - Con influence seems to be on the way back !! Thats if it ever went away !


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Published on 31 Aug 2012 by RTAmerica


General Martin Dempsey has voiced his opposition to Israel taking unilateral military action in Iran, so why are top military leaders using caution when it comes to military action in Iran while politicians are advocating hard-line military intervention? RT's Liz Wahl has the details.


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Published on 1 Sep 2012 by RussiaToday


Despite Washington clearly not favoring military confrontation with Iran - Israel isn't ruling it out. Major drills simulating missile strikes in case of a war with the Islamic State have been held in Tel Aviv. And these emergency exercises are not the only way Israelis are being prepared for an attack, as RT's Middle East correspondent Paula Slier explains.


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Published on 30 Aug 2012 by RTAmerica


At yesterday's foreign policy discussion, some of the leading voices within the GOP said they supported US military intervention in Syria. At the same time, however, America's political elite is deciding on the behalf of the whole country's population to wage another war which now seems inevitable, To discuss US Foreign policy in Syria RT's Liz Wahl joins Cole Bockenfield of the Project on Middle East Democracy.

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Published on 1 Sep 2012 by RussiaToday


RT's Peter Oliver discusses Syria, Libya, Israel & Iran as he talks to foreign affairs expert and German left-wing politician Jan van Aken.

Omni
3rd September 2012, 07:56
Mitt Romney scares me. Every election I am reminded at how asleep and pitifull at discernment the common public is in my country. Mitt wants war. I'm definitely voting for obama.

Maia Gabrial
3rd September 2012, 12:03
I'm writing Ron Paul's name in....

bennycog
3rd September 2012, 12:21
i really like "Russia Today" they have a little more give in how far they can report, imho.

and we all know that we can expect the exact opposite of a promise any politician serves up before an election..

conk
3rd September 2012, 14:46
Mitt Romney scares me. Every election I am reminded at how asleep and pitifull at discernment the common public is in my country. Mitt wants war. I'm definitely voting for obama.So then, you are voting for the lesser of two weasels?

Axman
3rd September 2012, 16:30
So then, you are voting for the lesser of two weasels?

Funny Conk I like Whitefeathers description AssClowns because if they are not sitting on it they are kissing it or brown nosing it or taking it in you know.

The Axman

HURRITT ENYETO
3rd September 2012, 17:39
Hey fellow Avalonians! :)
Some potentially very interesting info has come to light from Universal Spectrum and Avalon member Harley Hawkins. As it is so relavent to this thread, I am copying it over here from Universal Spectrum to give you guys a heads up too!
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Hi All.

On August 10 of this year I had a telephone chat with a long time old friend that I'll simply say is still actively employed.
During our conversation he told me about a couple of scenarios that have been being prepared for a long time now and that they are all set to go.
He said there's no way of knowing exactly which scenario will take place because it depends on "contigencies" [politics/polls, Israel, etc], but as you will see the two major scenarios are similar and it sounds to me like either will be precluded by a major false flag.
There was little info given on when, where, or type of false flag event. But I do want to point out that, for this to succeed, it will probably have to be on a scale some magnitudes larger than 911. And remember that there are always scenarios within scenarios.
Also note that this is not a prediction. I don't do predictions. This is real info regarding planned scenarios. If they go, they go and if they don't, they don't because there could be an infinite number of factors which could delay or even cancel them. As always.
But for the past few days of reading various news reports (on all fronts) I have the strong feeling that I now need to say something.
There isn't anything I can do about it if/when it does take place, but maybe my saying something will help some of you to prepare if it does.

Here is a letter with the information that I sent to "a friend" on August 11 for him to hold for me, but I no longer believe that it should be witheld.


11Aug12

I was just told this a while ago (today) from an "old buddy" that I haven't heard from in some time (he's still working) and thought you might be interested:

1. "Keep your eyes open for a terrorist attack, possibly in Europe or U.S, but most likely against Israel or Israeli citizens."

2. "It'll be blamed on Hezbollah, who are backed by Iran and Syria."

3. "Israel is going to strike Iran, probably on their own."

He was reluctant to say more, but when I queried him he did tell me this:

(Re: 1.): "Any time between now and December."

(Re: 3.): "Rumsfeld has advised Netanyahu that they don't need to notify the US if they decide to go it on their own." (Yes, you read that right).

This is all I he would say, but remember he is still working.


A few notes from me:

After our conversation I spent a little time searching around on some mid-east news sites, and yes I am finding some various "hints" pertaining to this.

(Re: 1. and 2.): 'Hezbollah may strike in Europe at any time' http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4267050,00.html

(Re: 3.): 'Rumsfeld: Israel needn't notify US about strike' http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4264412,00.html

(Re: 3.): 'Saudis Warn They Will Intercept Israeli Jets' http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/08/09/saudis-warn-they-will-intercept-israeli-jets.html?ESRC=eb.nl


And a few comments from me:

From my last note above, obviously it would be better for Israel if they had the US involved. But the US would have to be in control in order to make it look good for Obama (elections), so they want to wait until Oct/Nov and then play this card: 'Netanyahu, Barak mulling fall strike on Iran' http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4266973,00.html

But Israel is getting itchy and doesn't want to wait. So Israel has basically been given approval to strike on their own at any time.

In either scenario (unilateral strike/joint strike) a terrorist attack by Hezbollah would make perfect sense, as it would either give Israel the justification (to the world) to attack immediately and on their own, and/or it would give the US the justification it needs (for the American people) to lead a coalition strike. And if this card is played properly Obama stands to come out looking like a rose just in time for elections.

(Yikes! Just now had another thought. What if this goes BAD and they cancel the elections altogether? Sorry about my negative mindset, but after all it is 2012! LOL)

So anyway I wanted to get you the basic info from my friend along with my notes because this looks like a go to me (just don't know when). As far as my comments go, they are my own. But they are based upon my own experience working with scenarios. I hope you don't mind.

Take Care!

H.H.



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Source article http://universalspectrum.org/forum/showthread.php?1467-Insider-Info-False-Flag-and-Strike-On-Iran
So there you go, some very very interesting information. Keep your eyes open peeps!



Hurritt

Harley
7th October 2012, 01:55
The UAV that was shot down today by Israel was American

ThePythonicCow
7th October 2012, 02:17
The UAV that was shot down today by Israel was American

One more small bit of evidence consistent with the idea that the Rothschild Zionists are having a family feud with the Rockefeller US Dept of Defense.

I liked it better when it was Hatfields vs McCoys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatfield%E2%80%93McCoy_feud) ... stray bullets from the hills of West Virginia were less likely to reach North Texas

Harley
7th October 2012, 03:15
This story just out from YNet News:
(Bold is mine)


Downed drone: Iran testing Israel's capabilities

Unmanned aircraft shot down by F-16 jets in south Israel was apparently launched from Lebanon by Hezbollah, or perhaps even by the Iranians themselves; IDF looking into possibility aircraft was supposed to photograph Dimona reactor

Latest Update: 10.06.12, 23:31 / Israel News (http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-3082,00.html)

A few hours after two fighter jets shot down a small unmanned aircraft that penetrated Israeli airspace in the south Saturday morning, it is safe to say that an element operating in Lebanon under the auspices of Iran and with its support, apparently Hezbollah, activated the drone. The drone itself, which was downed in the south Mount Hebron area, was apparently made in Iran.

Operating a drone by remote control from such a long distance requires advanced capabilities, which Israel was not aware Hezbollah had acquired.

Hezbollah's drones have infiltrated Israeli airspace in the past, from the north, but their activation did not require any navigation system. The unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) that infiltrated Israel on Saturday did require such a system. The incident showed that the Air Force has the ability to detect and intercept drones at any stage of their flight.

The drone was apparently launched by Iran or one of its allies to test the IDF's detection and interception capabilities, and perhaps even to search for specific targets in south Israel. The drone apparently began its flight in Lebanon and then headed in the direction of Gaza's coastline after flying over the Mediterranean Sea. This route was chosen not only because it utilized the depth of the sea's airspace, but also because Israeli UAVs regularly hover above Gaza.

The drone's operators may have planned to take advantage of this fact in hopes of confusing Israel's detection and interception systems. However, the drone was detected while it was still flying over the Mediterranean Sea and was downed a half-hour later over the south Mount Hebron area after IAF jets made certain it was not carrying any explosives and that its main mission was intelligence gathering.

There is no doubt that the operation is indicative of a high level of sophistication of the drone's operators, who are apparently Hezbollah terrorists, and also of their plans to perhaps use similar Iranian-made aircraft in the future to destroy targets inside Israel. It is also clear that Hezbollah chose such a long route so that it would not be accused of sending the drone and risk Israeli retaliation.

There is no doubt that the operation is indicative of a high level of sophistication of the drone's operators, who are apparently Hezbollah terrorists, and also of their plans to perhaps use similar Iranian-made aircraft in the future to destroy targets inside Israel. It is also clear that Hezbollah chose such a long route so that it would not be accused of sending the drone and risk Israeli retaliation.


Quite a story they got going on.
Did anyone suspect anything different?

I stand by my previous post.

ThePythonicCow
7th October 2012, 03:31
Quite a story they got going on.
Did anyone suspect anything different?

I stand by my previous post.

I trust Harley Hawkins News Service more than I trust ynetnews.com :)