Now: Shooting on new woman premier elected tonight in Quebec

[Flash]

An arm attack has just taken place during the election speech of the brand new
Quebec Premier-Elect Pauline Marois.

The premier-elect is safe but two person are in critical condition in the hospital.

She was swished out the floor by her security guards, but came back later to thank her team and the population and finish her speech.

It is the first women to be elected premier. Her party is Parti Québécois, which is a French dominated separatist party.

This is a minority government.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/

[Flash]

For those of you who have not seen this, we have our crazy stuff all over the planet.

One man is dead, another injured. Nothing happened to the province prime minister.

I am sorry for the families and the victims of the unfortunates who were at the wrong place, the wrong time.

May be this weird behavior should be added up to the weird behavior thread.....

[Carmody]

Just to clarify for English speakers and others, Flash means 'premier' of Quebec, not Prime Minister. Prime Minister is the same as President when it comes to comparing Canadian and US politics, and Premier is the same as Governor when comparing Canadian Provinces and US States.

[ThePythonicCow]

Just to clarify for English speakers and others, Flash means 'premier' of Quebec, not Prime Minister. Prime Minister is the same as President when it comes to comparing Canadian and US politics, and Premier is the same as Governor when comparing Canadian Provinces and US States.

Thanks for noticing this, Carmody. I took the liberty of changing the thread title and opening post to state Premier (and Premier-Elect), rather than Prime Minister.

[Flash]

Just to clarify for English speakers and others, Flash means 'premier' of Quebec, not Prime Minister. Prime Minister is the same as President when it comes to comparing Canadian and US politics, and Premier is the same as Governor when comparing Canadian Provinces and US States.

Completely right Carmody. I did a direct translation which are often wrong.

[Czarek]

Was this shooter trying to be some kind of "movie/cartoon" character? I checked the story on cbc and they describe him "wearing a blue robe and with his face partially covered by a balaclava". I can't imagine him taking a shower and deciding right there to go out and shoot the premier. Sorry, I don't have cable to check the rest of the story.

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RT's Coverage

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The Truther Girls

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[Mark]

The Truthergirl's on point. She breaks down a lot of the issues up here succinctly and the mind control aspect in regards to the probably false flag assassination attempt certainly has to be considered. This guy was like a warning for Parti Québécois to toe the line.

One thing she didn't get into too deeply was how the Anglos here in Quebec are feeling now that Parti Québécois is back in power again. They are a minority government with the Liberals as the official opposition, so they can't bring a referendum for separation again yet, but if and when they do, it is going to witness another outpouring of Anglos of all economic classes from Quebec into Ontario and points West.

There is a real feeling of being a minority here for many of those folks (English-descended) as some of the Québécois are virulently anti-English and others are just pro-Quebec with no particular bones to pick with the English. It gets down to basic things like schooling for the children and services, if institutions are bi-lingual and whether all populations are being served equally. I have a Québécois friend who is part Mohawk who is also pro-Canada, as most Québécois really are, there is no popular public mandate for separation right now. He told me about how last time they tried it all of the big money left Montreal and settled in Toronto, which is now probably the economic capital of Canada. Outside of Quebec though, there are strong feelings against the province and the French in some areas. My friend talks about racism and Alberta in particular and the rich "Rednecks", who are a bit different from the kind of folks we consider to be rednecks down in the States.

My lack of ability to speak french often surprises people as they assume I am Haitian or one of the other African immigrant peoples that have concentrated in Montreal and the surrounding regions in recent decades. When I say I'm American though everybody understands. The whole world knows we're lucky to speak one language.

:p

[Flash]

Madame Marois, the premier, being herself very wealthy (but nothing compared with the Rockerfeller and Rotschilds or the Queen) is actually from the PTB. So, towing the line warning would kind of surprise me.

Rahkyt, your recent arrival in Quebec on the anglos side makes you say some Quebecors are virulent against English, which is truly not there in Montreal. As for the rest, it is based either on ignorance or on history (you would not believe how much discrimination was here to get a low or middle management job in the 70's, no French could, irrelevant their talent, just being French barred the route, and French women, ah ah ah, forget it. French just had enough, some writer had called them - no offense please - "The white niggers of America" because French were treated as such by the Anglo power. I could show you history over history about it, as well as my and my older relatives personal experience.

Despite this, Quebecers are usually very very pacifists. The CIA was studying us in the late sixties early seventies, because of the separatist movement, but also because we were used as a base to see how would react a more volatile people in other countries that the CIA wanted to overtake covertly. What could trigger us for contestation would have civil war effect in other countries.

This is why we still live very well and friendly with our Englishes (I call Quebec English population OUR Englishes because they are quite different from all the other English Canadians from other provinces, in thinking, in behavior, in English language usage as well, and most of the French do appreciate them).

And Rahkyt, you are completely right on the outside the province gossips: it is incredible how constant bombardment of negativity is poured against Quebec in other provinces. If we listen to them, OUR Englishes are being jailed, used for sacrificial whatever, etc. And the French always have bad press (from the Carnival bonhomme to the corruption in the construction business vs government, as if there was none in Ontario or worst, in the Petroleum companies governed Alberta). Hatred is definitly built up against the French in the other provinces, probably willfully.

But anyhow, want it or not, Quebec will get its separation and it will come from Alberta who will create the waves (I am sure Quebecers will refuse separation while Albertan will demand it, pushed by US to be their oil minions).

OK I am over with my rant, next post will be the real news and a breakfast I had yesterday with a friend who main personal friend is at the top of power in the provincial government (there is 2-3 at his level, so I won't name names).

[Mark]

Hi Flash, thanks for continuing the discussion.

Yes indeed, I am a very recent arrival, October will be a complete year I've lived in Quebec. My girlfriend. Sirayah is English and from the West Island, though, born and raised. She and her family have told me a lot about the personal and political history of Quebec and I'm always asking questions to the people I meet out on walks in the forest and through the village of Hudson, where I live. Folks like to talk and are quite opinionated, which I appreciate as I am always very curious to find out about the places I live.

There was a picture in the local paper yesterday showing a statue of some old battle or war hero that had been defaced by a pro Parti-Québécois supporter and, for the past 2 weeks, the opinion pages and editorials have been very strident regarding the issues at hand in this election. Hudson is an historically English town in Quebec so there is a large concentration of English-speaking folk here, even the stop signs are in English, which I've never seen anywhere else in Quebec during my limited travels thus far. There are a LOT of for-sale signs on million dollar properties fronting the Lake of Two Mountains (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_of_Two_Mountains), across from the Oka Reservation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oka_Crisis) and a couple of people I've met out walking have complained about the taxes and about the changes that they see coming that will negatively affect the English in Quebec, particularly the rich ones.

I understand discrimination, which is why I find the situation up here so interesting. Being a minority myself, hearing white french people here talk about racism by other white people is very surreal to me but, apparently, a fact of life.

That some of the English here in Quebec feel themselves to be minorities and feel discriminated against and call it racism is always quite mind-boggling, but, again, an apparent reality.

Your statement that Quebec will get its freedom by being forced out by Alberta is one I've not seen or heard anywhere previously but it sounds like you have an inside track. I like to hear from folks with inside tracks. :)

So do you agree with the Truthergirl that this guy who attempted to assassinate the Premier could have been mind-controlled?

[Flash]

Sincerely, Rahkyt, how could change reflect on the English in Quebec, Montreal is back to its original 40% English dwellers. Yes French want to keep their French, and it is getting back to what it was in the 70's in Montreal, but believe me, it will never be the same as then. Dramatisation is quite extensive on the English side, believe me, and on the French side for those NOT in Montreal.

The million dollars houses to sell are most probably because 1. the taxes, 2. The rich ones are seeing a housing market bubble coming and want to sell prior to losing.

On average, English in Montreal all speak French, are not discriminated in employment, as long as they can handle French enough (not even good) and have much better revenues than the French majority in the province. What else would they want? Not to have French around???? To tell you the truth, most English I know do not want to move out for Toronto or Ottawa for example. (I do live on a predominantly English neighborhood).

When studies are made on minorities in the world, English Quebecers are considered as the MOST WEALTHY and having THE BEST MINORITIES CONDITONS IN THE WORLD. Why, because they were in power and have not lost that side and because they are in a complete English North American Environment. In this environment, it is the French that are much in minorities and must always be on their toes for their rights and language.

I do not truly understand those red neck attitudes on both sides. Personnally, I speak 3 languages and a quarter and it makes one only a better person altogether. Why bitch at the differences and diversity?

Thanks for the hint that stop signs are in English only in Hudson, this is illegal, it should be in both languages. Hum.... lol. It was the same in Montreal West, they discriminated against the poorer neighborood by blocking their street and it is the English in those streets that called the French Language Office to complaint and have ther signs changed lol. Tat for tat.

This city is overall a very nice city and not violent if compared with American cities and even with Toronto. Life is quite good here. With both, French and English.

As for separation coming from Alberta, you will realise with time that Alberta and Albertan pay Federal taxes, and as their is a equity norm in Canada, lots of their taxes are transferred to poorer provinces, including Quebec. They have no debt because of oil, and do not want to pay for other provinces (mostly if French). They just forgot that the rest of Canada had been paying for the prairies for more than 70 years prior to the nineties. So some are strongly advising separation in Alberta itself. No insiders tracks here, sorry.

[Amysenthia]

Thank You Rahkyt and Flash,

It has been so wonderful to hear this conversation about what is going on in Q"uebec. You must realize that the news here is the US is so filtered that yesterday and today not a word of this situation was even mentioned. All during the pot and pan demonstrations, NO NEWS! Now during this apparent assassination attempt, NO NEWS!.

Our morning news started with the Democratic Convention. Like we didn't know that Barack Obama was the choice again. Then we had to hear that Prince Harry is starting his Afghanistan tour of duty. REALLY!! Like I care what the Royals are doing. Now what is going on with our neighbors to the North, this would be interesting.

WHY NO NEWS!!!!

[enfoldedblue]

As an english speaking quebecer (though have been in australia for 15 yrs) I would like to participate in this discussion (though I don't know a lot about the shooting). Growing up as a member of an english speaking minority group was an interesting experience. I can remember the late 70's when the anglo's left in droves. My grandmother, cousins etc were part of the many that all left for Toronto. What was interesting is that those who remained came to see themselves almost as breed amongst themselves...the hardcore ones, the ones with edge...the real english quebecers. Almost like a group of black sheep...the white sheep left, but the black sheeps will always feel more at home in quebec than enywhere else in Canada.

Unfortunately in the early 90's when I was in my 20's Montreal was in the grips of a serious recession and during this time, when there was a serious job shortage, the minority status of english montrealers became very evident. It was impossible to find any jobs and myself and nearly all my friends felt like we had no choice but to leave the city of our hearts. What is interesting is that while a very small percentage went to Toronto and Vancouver, the great majority settled outside Canada..Europe, U.S., Australia etc.

One thing I would like to add is that it always felt as though TPTB really tried to nurture the division between english and french quebecers. When 'les caseroles' was happening I saw a beautiful healing and coming together of quebec people. Many things I read made me cry, because it felt so good to finally see a unified people working together. Is there still a sense of this now? How has shooting affected relations?

Thanks

[Flash]

I love your comment Amysenthia.

No NEWS because the rest of the world barely exist. In fact it may exist to get from it (petroleum, gold, arms, cheap labor, etc.).

Have you noticed that you name your country by the name of the continent. Did you know that as a Canadian I am an American too. Because I live on that continent.

Have you noticed that every times you see a North American map, in school, in business environments, it is cut of at the top, nothing above except Alaska which is put sideways. Sometimes you put Mexico but never Canada. To a point that a business acquaintance of mine was working with an American sales group pertaining to his European company, and we had to make production statistics for North America and he had the North American map coming from US trunkated again. He said "f.. " I will have to hand desing the addition with the cities were we have plants again. Those American.

American are VERY self centered. It is not the people's falt, but their government, their school system, etc. (World Geography and history are not compulsory in Florida, so duh... the rest of the planet does not exist).
Furthermore, American news are very not only filtered, but censored. The remaining news have many biaises. I suggested to my US friends to listen at least to BBC and if possible to other channels from different countries that are in English, just to have a wider view and be able to think, evaluate and decide on truth.

Canada is a tiny bit less filtered. In fact, there is more European content, that it be in English Canada of French Canada. However, we have strong westerners biaises as well.

THis is why no NEWS.

The map is this to represent America (US):

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/usa/Images/america-map.jpg

While it should be this for North America:

http://www.map-of-north-america.us/north-america-map.gif

or this for America

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_eMqimWsLZks/TL9-hPLvXnI/AAAAAAAAAAg/affHGi18PPI/s1600/america.gif

But we are patient, and beside, we have no much choice, the "bullie" below us has big muscles. This apart, I still love the American people, do not misinterpret it.

But yes I will yell when mistaken for an American while travelling " NO CANADIAN, I AM CANADIAN" because elsewhere in the world Americans (US) are not that much liked. So sorry for this when we do know how the individual composing the country can be wonderful.

Please note: Greenland is Danish and Iceland is Iceland and not part of America even if they are near the continent. Same for the Carribeans on the US map (although they pretty much are in reality)

[Mark]

You're quite welcomed, Amysenthia. I'm trained in Geography and have been a university instructor of it for 15 years so my spatial curiosity leads me to learn as much as possible about the world I inhabit, and particularly the places I find myself. I'm glad to share my impressions, although I must defer to Flash and other natives like Enfoldedblue when it comes to the deepest nuances that are best understood by those who have extensive life experiences in a place.

I must say, I do love Montreal. The feel of it, the ambiance of the city. I understand what Enfoldedblue is talking about even with my limited 2 years in Canada. I also love the Laurentians, where I've recently been working and traveling. Even though I don't speak French people have been gracious and polite to me personally, attempting to communicate even when they don't speak English very well. People make do when there is the will, I suppose, which I have found to be true in my travels around the world.

Americans are generally geographically illiterate, that much is well-documented. With an education system designed to obfuscate rather than illuminate and a media designed to maintain mental slumber rather than intellectual alertness it would take an extraordinary effort on the part of the citizenry to be otherwise.

Enfoldedblue, I don't watch the News on television and I've only done a bit of follow-up since it happened so I can't answer you as to how it has affected relations, perhaps Flash can.

[Elly]

WHY NO NEWS!!!!

I was thinking why so much coverage around the world?

The news around the world
The attack during Marois victory speech has become a global event

A hundred media around the world have published articles on the Quebec election and the attack against Pauline Marois. With us, never would news occupied such media space in the last 12 years.

(...)

Abroad

In 12 hours, the Quebec election and the attack against the Prime Minister were among the 30 most popular words on Twitter in Canada. Canadian mainstream media, the new dominates, observe analysts Influence Communication.

Globally on Twitter, the words "Quebec", "Metropolis", "Pauline Marois' were found among 20 to 40 words most often mentioned. The appearance of "fait divers" of the election received more attention.

Quebec "election hangover" headlined Le Monde. Newspapers, televisions and radios around the world relayed the news, which will be further taken during the day since the shooting occurred very late in the night of September 4 to 5.

Images of Pauline Marois surrounded by her bodyguards hurriedly leaving the scene of Metropolis have plenty circulated on the Web.

"At noon yesterday, there were already between 4000 and 6000 mentions in thirty foreign media, including several in one. We know that in the end, about a hundred of them resume the news" Jean-François Dumas advances. Several foreign newspapers mentioned the fact that the attack targeted a "separatist" government, he says.

From here in french: http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2012/09/05/la-nouvelle-fait-le-tour-du-monde

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/05/world/americas/canada-election-shooting/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/sep/05/quebec-separatists-success-parti-quebecois
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/killing-sparked-by-secession-fears/story-e6frg6so-1226465907152

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More from The Truther Girls

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[Flash]

WHY NO NEWS!!!!

I was thinking why so much coverage around the world?

The news around the world
The attack during Marois victory speech has become a global event

A hundred media around the world have published articles on the Quebec election and the attack against Pauline Marois. With us, never would news occupied such media space in the last 12 years.

(...)

Abroad

In 12 hours, the Quebec election and the attack against the Prime Minister were among the 30 most popular words on Twitter in Canada. Canadian mainstream media, the new dominates, observe analysts Influence Communication.

Globally on Twitter, the words "Quebec", "Metropolis", "Pauline Marois' were found among 20 to 40 words most often mentioned. The appearance of "fait divers" of the election received more attention.

Quebec "election hangover" headlined Le Monde. Newspapers, televisions and radios around the world relayed the news, which will be further taken during the day since the shooting occurred very late in the night of September 4 to 5.

Images of Pauline Marois surrounded by her bodyguards hurriedly leaving the scene of Metropolis have plenty circulated on the Web.

"At noon yesterday, there were already between 4000 and 6000 mentions in thirty foreign media, including several in one. We know that in the end, about a hundred of them resume the news" Jean-François Dumas advances. Several foreign newspapers mentioned the fact that the attack targeted a "separatist" government, he says.

From here in french: http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2012/09/05/la-nouvelle-fait-le-tour-du-monde

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/05/world/americas/canada-election-shooting/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/sep/05/quebec-separatists-success-parti-quebecois
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/killing-sparked-by-secession-fears/story-e6frg6so-1226465907152

That is a good point, why so much around the world and so little in USA, this was, I think, the point made by Enfolded blue.

Ok, the news is that the shooter, Bain, is a 64 English speaking guy who had a pourvoirie (place for hunters and fisherman) up north (2 hours from Montreal). He had a few arms in his car and about 20 more at his place. He was unstable following some of his friends opinions and was on medications. The person who died was a 44 years old sound technician.

The truther girls resume is quite good, however, I do not agree with the "programmed MK Ultra" considerations. I really think he is a loony bin, period. I do not agree with te "sending her a message" other than what he was saying.

Some of the police reports are starting to get out and the back doors of the place were not well protected, although it seem the Premier was well protected on an individual basis. They say that the choice of the place was not great for such an event because of these difficulties to protect the back entrances and the venues were anybody could come from and get around the building.

The Truther Girls is talking of an attempted coup, which I totally disagree with.

Now, we have to understand that Quebec could become one of the main gaz fracking province and that we would have quite a lot of petroleum in our sea side, gold mines, all kind of minerals plus lots of water. So yes we may be tempting for foreign powers (British and US) but up to now we have sold them instead of not agreeing with them. So yes, the federal government is surely not that happy with this election (federal government is supporting entirely and from the Alberta oil industry). But this is not enough to attempt anything imo, nor to zap someone's brain to attempt something. We should not forget that this premier is from the same milieu of rich bourgeoisie, much more than the former premier.

Is this premier and this election good for Quebec? Should this Premier be there? Will a minority government be able to govern? We will see.

[Elly]

Madame Marois, the premier, being herself very wealthy (but nothing compared with the Rockerfeller and Rotschilds or the Queen) is actually from the PTB. So, towing the line warning would kind of surprise me.

Hello Flash, I looked into Marois biography and she seems to come from the working class.
Born to humble roots in St-Redempteur near Quebec City, Marois is one of five children born to her garage mechanic father and teacher mother.

From: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/09/03/pauline-marois-bio_n_1852493.html
More details in french Wikipedia: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Marois

She might have some "money" being married with an entrepreneurial husband but that doesn't put her automatically in the PTB category IMO. Is is possible to give more info on your statement quoted above?

[Carmody]

Was this person taking SSRI's?

Those drugs are a serious threat to anyone's mental stability.

[Carmody]

It is a small world, as they say.

The last time there was a separatist vote, it came down to one person's vote and direction. One only. Canada stayed together, due to the decisions of one man. My brother in law..just happened to know that man. Now that is a story on it's own.....

Essentially, Quebec did not separate as the upper part of Quebec was going to stay with Canada, and that huge area is the section that contains the resources that the given Americans and the given secret societies/corporations/etc are after, besides the fundamental aspect of a tear down of what some parts of the world see as a 'Rothschild fiefdom' (Canada, that is). (Canada is no longer generating it's own cash, even though it has a fully functional national bank that USED to exist for this sole reason...and was utilized for this purpose)

And THOSE lands, belong to the aboriginals. Basically, all of upper Quebec, every inch of it. About 75%+ of Quebec's landmass.

This is how it was defeated last time. This is how the secret societies where shut out - by the the influence and position of one aboriginal man. This is due to the fact that in any nationalist separation vote, the ownership and control of the given lands, in the official sense, reverts back to the aboriginals, and then the aboriginals vote to do as they please..to stay with Quebec and separate from Canada, or to remain with Canada. They voted to stay with Canada, and thus the separatist issue went away, as the desired components, with regard to the USA based secret group... would have still lived on in an official Canada, a Canada that would still have connectivity from ocean to ocean, with a slightly thick strip along a highway and river, calling itself 'An independent Quebec'.

So they stopped in their attempt. For a while... at least with regard to public actions, regarding the official offices and motions.

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The same will happen again in any vote or decision, unless they've found a way to nullify the entire northern hemisphere's aboriginal people's ownership and control of their own (legally recognized) lands.

If this woman is of Rothschild origin, then she's been positioned there to make sure that Canada does NOT break up. That it is not overrun into a north American union under the insane flag of a bunch of fascists.

If that is the case, then the safest course or most expedient course that gets the oil/power crew to a position that they want to be, is that some aspect of the CIA/OIL/skull&bones/fascist/Nazi group does what it does best, or seems to like the most: Assassinate someone.

For it is then obvious that an assassination, if successful, does what they want it to do. It removes her and riles the people of Quebec up into a turmoil.

Except, as long as that native group exists, which is also connected to Siberians, and so on (all Northern hemisphere aboriginals), it will not allow ANY part of the north of Quebec to get into the hands of that group that so deeply desires the break up of Quebec/Canada.

I can only conclude, then, that this group had or has a plan to nullify the aboriginals who control the vast majority of the ownership of Quebec's landmass.

And if they have a plan for getting past the aboriginals, then it is a plan and action that has taken place since the last separatist vote in Quebec, and thus, it should be possible to find it.....and drive it out into the public eye.

[Flash]

I am happy that you bring those facts Carmody (the upper Quebec being own by arboriginals, which is true, and the PTB sniffing the good about free serving they may have.

Furthermore, Canada was the Rotschild fiefdom (most probably still is). And it is true that the margin to reject separation last time was extremely small.

However, even if you have a separatist government, separations will not happen for many reasons:

1. Most people do not truly want to separate from Canada. They would rather modify the actual association, which has been constantly refused by the Federal and other provinces. Yet, most Quebecers are not truly ready to separate. The Premier had to promise another separation referendum because of the hard liners of her party, without which she would not have been elected at all. So, if I were English, I would definitly not move out, this is a firecracker only.
2. To answer to Cara about madame Marois, you are right, she comes from a very humble background. However, by age 30, her husband and her were already rich for many reasons. Here a blog I found that gives the description of the origins of the wealth. The origins of her wealth explain very well why she won't make any separation, because her wealth comes from the Federal connections of her husband and some Franco Ontarian moneys. You usually do not spit too much on the benefactors. Those benefactors can rest in peace.

http://www.politiquebec.com/showthread.php/3205-Les-richesses-et-histoires-n%C3%A9buleuses-de-la-fortune-de-Mme-Marois

It is in French. It says in few words the following (I am pretty sure the research of this guy are right):


Par : Jeffrey Foucault

L’affaire de l’île Bizard !
Une affaire peu connue.

Bizard Island, a business little known:

Triste histoire révoltante.
Ceci est l'histoire de la vraie Castafiore Québécoise et du Château de Moulinsart, une saga que les médias Québécois ont toujours traités du bout des lèvres, certainnement à cause de l’importance du personnage politique qui est impliqué dans cette magouille et de ses influences personnelles, ainsi que du Parti séparatiste Québécois qui a eu le pouvoir durant des années. A story the media always treated very lightly most probably because of the nature of the political caracter dipping in personal influences, including those at the Parti Québécois.
Sur l'île Bizard, dans le Château de Moulinsart, il y a eu beaucoup de magouilles qui sont l'oeuvre du Parti indépendantiste Québècois qui, en association avec certains fédéralistes notoires, et sous la protection silencieuse des médias, se sont organisés des paradis dorés au sû et à l’insu de la grande majorité des payeurs d’impots Québecois.

Un beau mariage en grande pompe.
Pauline Marois and Claude Blanchet have wed in 1969. In 86, while Marois is a minister (at the separatist party), her husband with his federalists associates, Henry Walch, Mario Grilli, buy agro land in Ile Bizard which was owned by Robert Campeau (Campeau Corp) who was going on bankrupcy at the time. Marois's husband was the right hand of Campeau in Ottawa, and thanks to his intimate links to Federal (opposed to separation and Canadian parties) ministers, such as Jean Chrétien (who was to become Prime Minister of Canada and who's daughter is married to the son of one of the richest man in Canada), Jean Marchand, Marc Lalonde, Michael Pitfield, reasons for which Campeau had such financial success in Ontario.
Pauline Marois et Claude Blanchet sont mariés depuis 1969. En 1986, alors que Pauline Marois est ministre, son mari, Claude Blanchet avec ses associés fédéralistes, Henry Walch et Mario Grilli, achètèrent des terres agricoles de l'île Bizard qui appartenaient à l’époque à Robert Campeau (Campeau Corp. Inc) qui sombrait alors tranquilllement dans la faillite.
Le mari de Pauline Marois était le "bras droit" de Robert Campeau à Ottawa, et c'est grâce à ses liens intimes avec des ministres et hauts fonctionnaires fédéraux, tels Jean Chrétien, Jean Marchand, Marc Lalonde et Michael Pitfield que Campeau Corp eut tant de succès financiers en Ontario.

Une élection enrichissante.
En 1991, Pauline est députée péquiste de Taillon à l'Assemblée nationale pendant que son mari, Claude Blanchet est lui, à la tête du Fonds de Solidarité (FTQ). Le FSFTQ a été créé par le PQ grâce au prêt de 10 millions obtenu par la ministre du travail d'alors, Pauline Marois. Pour ne pas éveiller de soupçons, Claude Blanchet envoie à sa place, son associé fédéraliste Henry Walch faire changer le zonage des terrains de l'île Bizard afin d'en faire exploser la valeur marchande.
In 1991, Marois is deputy at the National Assembly (Quebec) and her husband is at the head of Fond de Solidarité (RRSP or 401 equivalent placement funds owned by FTQ union). The FSFTQ, which is the placement arm of the union, was created when 10 millions$ was obtained by the Work Minister of the time, namely Marois. At the same time, to avoid problems, Marois' husband send the federalist Henry Walch to change the zoning laws of the Ile Bizard land to have its value litterally explode.
The zoning change (from agriculture to city dwelling) is then accepted by the Parti Quebecois who is governing in the province and the Marois/Blanchet couple becomes automatically multi millionnaires thanks to speculations of those lands and the privileged position with the power in place...
Le changement sera accepté par le gouvernement du Parti Québécois. Le couple Marois Blanchet devient alors multimillionnaire grâce à la spéculation de terres publiques et à leur positionnement privilégié avec le pouvoir en place (PQ).

Un fauteuil en « Or ».
En 1997, contrairement aux règles, c'est le cabinet du PQ, au
lieu du Conseil d'administration élu, qui nommera le mari de Pauline
Marois (alors Ministre des finances) au poste de Président de la Société Générale de Financement.
A golden chair: contrarily to the rules in place, it is the Parti Québécois cabinet, instead of the elected Administration Council, who named Marois's husband (she is then minister of Finance) at the Presidency of the Financing General Society. (Société Générale de Financement). It is Marois herself that will establish the contract and the salary of her husband, without any consideration for the success of the Society (my note: as the bankers did in USA with government funds to recuperate their banks). SGF will lose 500 millions$ under Marois's husband direction. A few weeks before another election, which the Parti Québécois lost, Marois's husband obtained a lifelong salary of 90,000$ per years when quitting the SGF.
C'est Marois elle-même qui établira son contrat et son salaire
contrairement encore, à la règle qui spécifie que ceci doit être fait
par le C.A. élu. Claude Blanchet recevait alors un gros salaire en plus
de recevoir des bonis sur l'argent prêté par la SGF sans considération
de la rentabilité de la SGF.

Heureusement pour lui car sous sa direction, la SGF accuse une
perte de plus de 500 millions $.
À quelques semaines des élections, perdues par le PQ, le mari de
Pauline Marois obtient une bonification de son contrat lui garantissant une rente annuelle de 90,000$ au lieu de 42,000$, s'il perdait son poste. En plus, tenez vous bien, cet avantage est transformé en pension à vie.

Le silence d’or des syndicalistes notoires !
En 1997, à cette époque là, Pauline Marois était bien Ministre des finances, non ? Curieusement, aucun syndicat ne contesta cette augmentation scandaleuse : vive la sociale démocratie !
Aujourd'hui, le mari de celle qui est devenue la Chef du Parti
Québécois, est associé à de nouveaux fédéralistes notoires dans
une société à capital ouvert «Perceptions inc», vous connaissez?

Unions kept their mouths shut throughout those deals and today, Marois' husband, Marois being now the Premier, is still associated to reknown federalists within a a society with open capital "Perceptions Inc". THE REST IS RANTING, SO i AM NOT TRANSLATING.- MY COMMENTS.

C'est à leur château de l'île Bizard que les Marois Blanchet reçoivent somptueusement leurs nouveaux associés tels que Jerry Tarasofsky, grand financier du B'nai Brith Senior Residence à Côte Saint-Luc ainsi que créateur d'un Lodge B'nai Brith pour les diplômés de McGill comme lui. Ils ont récemment fait une grande réunion de 75 membres il y a six mois à la synagogue Shaare Zion.
Avis aux syndicalistes indépendantistes qui seraient intéressés à s'inscrire au Lodge du B'nai Brith, question de rencontrer de riches alliés qui pourraient "contribuer" à leur cause, bonne chance !

Comprenez-vous le pouvoir politique des «$éparatistes $ociales Démocrates du Québec» ?
Lorsqu'on lit tout ça on peut comprendre que la Chef du Parti
Québécois n'a aucune réticence à laisser son château pour 8.000,000 de beaux dollars en plus de ce qu’elle s’est mis de côté et à taire le plus possible, l'option fondamentale et la raison d'être de son parti.
Ce qui nous intéresse le plus les Québecois maintenant, c’est de savoir si tous le monde au Québec aura une retraite aussi dorée que ce couple avide de pouvoir, car on ne peut comprendre qu’autant aux Finances avec les résultats désastreux de la SGF, qu'à l'Éducation avec la complexité du système d'évaluation des élèves et les restrictions sévères sur l'apprentissage de l'Anglais, qu'à la Santé avec la mise à la retraite prématurée des infirmières et les quotas des médecins, madame Marois ait fait une tel carrière politique, car elle a toujours prouvé sa parfaite et incomparable incompétence à diriger les affaires du pays.
Par contre, elle a sûrement démontré qu'elle $avait $e $ervir de ses pouvoirs politiques pour détourner des lois et des règles à ses propres intérêts. Et $i jamais elle devait être réelue, c'est $ans doute toute l'Île Bizard au complet qu'elle pourra habiter avec tous ses… Canards !

Maintenant, des nouvelles de Perceptions inc:
Le 14 septembre 2007, l'Autorité des Marchés Financiers (AMF)
émet un avis formel à Claude Blanchet, Barry Cracower, Jerry Tarasofsky, Denis M. Sirois, Daphne Kis, Jean Lavigueur, Martin Faucher, Daniel Taras, Richard Zeidel, Jonathan Levitt, Stephen Burns, Robert Duff Anderson, Elaine Tarasofsky, Joseph Callaghan, Adelina (Lina) Continelli, Sandra Haydon et Eric Salpeter.

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L'AMF leur interdit d'effectuer, directement ou indirectement,
toutes activités reliées à des opérations sur les valeurs de Perceptions Inc., aux motifs que l'émetteur ne s'est pas conformé aux obligations de dépôt des états financiers et du rapport de gestion relatif aux états financiers prévus au Règlement 51-102 et que ces personnes ont été administrateurs ou dirigeants de l'émetteur depuis que celui-ci a déposé ses derniers états financiers, conformément aux exigences applicables et, en tant qu'initiés de l'émetteur, ces personnes peuvent avoir été informées de tout fait ou changement important concernant l'émetteur qui n'a pas été rendu public après la date des états financiers déposés.

Vive la démocratie !!!
Maintenant;
• Pensez-vous que vous en saurez plus ?
• Pensez-vous que vous lirez la suite dans les journaux et à la télévision comme pour Earl Jones, ou les Lacroix et compagnie ?
• Pensez-vous que les célèbres «Autorités des Marchés Financiers» (l’A.M.F.) vont donner une suite à ces magouilles politiques ?
Je vous laisse y réflèchir …

Moralité;
«Quand c'est Bizard,
c'est pas clair» !

Hopefully Cara this answered your post request.

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Richard Bain, the shooter at Marois' speech, had been to Las Vegas with his brother having bought VIP tickets giving him the right to be photographed with Céline Dion.

Some bloggers in French say: "Photo with Céline Dion, VIP ticket" if he likes Céline Dion, this is proof of mental instability LOL.

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Here is the picture, Richard Bain is at the right of Céline.

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Carmody, I can't find anything on the medication Richard Henry Bain was taking. So, for the moment, I do not know. But this would make a good thread as well, the effect of medication on the brain chemistry.

I met last Thursday with a friend who is connected at the highest levels of the Quebec government. During breakfast, we chatted of course about the elections. She was telling me that she, and other high levels, did not expect the minority government to go more than 2 years, but the opposition want it to go at least 2 years, to make sure the good mistakes are made before election. Legault seems to be an opportunist first of all, and not knowing how to manage a governmnet at all.

She was telling me that Marois will make mistakes because her party is very divided, mostly on separation issues, and that there is a hard core separatist group that won't give up, but also because she is surrounded by about 5 advisers, 1 of them who is the "dauphin" of madame Marois and through whom everybody has to pass through to get access to her. In other words, she is kind of isolating herself by listening to very limited amount of people and advice. And that the main adviser is mostly on an ego/power trip. (it made me think of Ottawa with Harper's group, same situation all around). Because of the main adviser personnality, errors should me made.

[Snookie]

Hi Flash

I'm from Alberta. A slight correction - we have been paying more in equalization payments since approximately the late sixties...for sure since the early seventies. This is about the same length of time that PQ became a "have not" province, or began receiving these payments.

I think many of us here in AB find it a bit ironic that PQ want to leave the country when they get so many benefits by staying. They spend FAR more on social programs than any other province including Alberta (the tuition fees the students pay are 30% less than other provinces, or so i've been told, and their Day Care benefits are the most generous in all of Canada). Yet some bitch and moan they want to leave.

I don't think many Albertans want Quebec to leave (we just wish they would quit threatening to do so as it seems like blackmail). I sure don't. I have been to Montreal and loved it. Culturally it would be a huge loss for Canada.

There are some in AB who feel it would be better if we left Canada as we would then quit making these equalization payments. I am not in favor of this as I do NOT want to become the 51st state of the US.





Sincerely, Rahkyt, how could change reflect on the English in Quebec, Montreal is back to its original 40% English dwellers. Yes French want to keep their French, and it is getting back to what it was in the 70's in Montreal, but believe me, it will never be the same as then. Dramatisation is quite extensive on the English side, believe me, and on the French side for those NOT in Montreal.

The million dollars houses to sell are most probably because 1. the taxes, 2. The rich ones are seeing a housing market bubble coming and want to sell prior to losing.

On average, English in Montreal all speak French, are not discriminated in employment, as long as they can handle French enough (not even good) and have much better revenues than the French majority in the province. What else would they want? Not to have French around???? To tell you the truth, most English I know do not want to move out for Toronto or Ottawa for example. (I do live on a predominantly English neighborhood).

When studies are made on minorities in the world, English Quebecers are considered as the MOST WEALTHY and having THE BEST MINORITIES CONDITONS IN THE WORLD. Why, because they were in power and have not lost that side and because they are in a complete English North American Environment. In this environment, it is the French that are much in minorities and must always be on their toes for their rights and language.

I do not truly understand those red neck attitudes on both sides. Personnally, I speak 3 languages and a quarter and it makes one only a better person altogether. Why bitch at the differences and diversity?

Thanks for the hint that stop signs are in English only in Hudson, this is illegal, it should be in both languages. Hum.... lol. It was the same in Montreal West, they discriminated against the poorer neighborood by blocking their street and it is the English in those streets that called the French Language Office to complaint and have ther signs changed lol. Tat for tat.

This city is overall a very nice city and not violent if compared with American cities and even with Toronto. Life is quite good here. With both, French and English.

As for separation coming from Alberta, you will realise with time that Alberta and Albertan pay Federal taxes, and as their is a equity norm in Canada, lots of their taxes are transferred to poorer provinces, including Quebec. They have no debt because of oil, and do not want to pay for other provinces (mostly if French). They just forgot that the rest of Canada had been paying for the prairies for more than 70 years prior to the nineties. So some are strongly advising separation in Alberta itself. No insiders tracks here, sorry.

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Snookie, I agree with you, tell it to all your Albertan mates, some French quebecers agree with you. Thanks for the correction.