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Mu2143
7th September 2012, 07:07
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Erich
7th September 2012, 09:30
Recently I had an Idea to enhance the soil ,by using fruits/ vegetables and herbs.
If you look at it, its very simple what every the benefits are from it will give this to the plant as well.

For Example Barbadensis Miller / Aloe Vera is for healing and give this to your plant it will have the same effect, so you can try many different mixes with this.

The best thing you can do for a good starter is put the seed(s) in a pot with the soil that is mixed with what ever you want to put in as a plant food source and then mix or add later the soil bacteria and fungi.

Effective microorganisms(EM-1/EM-A)) /kefir/Kombucha etc .

Everything is stored in to the DNA of the plant and this will change the plant and you will have more healthy seeds. Its all about healing nothing more.

I make our fertilizer with kitchen scraps-whatever fruits and vegetables we're eating at the time. Lots of mango, snake gourd, spinach, kale, mushrooms, rice, etc...Put it in a bucket with a bag of sugar (20 or 30 percent kitchen scrap). Fill the bucket with water. Cover it tightly and let it sit in the sun for about 15 days. When you get a white scum across the top it's ready. It smells like wine.

Put 1 cup with every bucket of water. It really works. My banana trees are huge. Papaya are fat, abundant and round. All of the vegetables are fat and colorful.

Arrowwind
7th September 2012, 13:45
Another thing I know that some folks have done is apply homeopathic remedies to their garden. I really dont know about these applications, only that it is done. Anyone know more details?

Ive started using manure tea and it is making a big difference.

With veggie scraps I dont compost them. I just bury them in the soil between the plants. I might now try putting them in a bucket with sugar... I know this will produce lots of enzymes and microbes. Some people even drink stuff similar to this..

Mu2143
7th September 2012, 17:56
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Latti
7th September 2012, 23:10
My family has several generations of great gardeners. When visiting family members in spring or summer, it's normal for them to say, “Let me show you my garden.” Yes, it’s always been a means of providing substanace for the family and neighbors, but I believe pride in accomplichment was always just as important.

I’ve always enjoyed planting and growing a garden, but cultivating and controlling the grass and weeds never appealed to me. So, I adopted a mulching system that doesn’t require cultivation after planting. In the fall when my neighbors bag up their leaves, I go throughout the neighborhood and collect the leaves. Some go on my compost pile, but others are used as mulch. As my garden plants grow, I add mulch until the space between plants is about six(6) to (8) inches deep. This holds soil moisture,keeps the grass and weeds controlled and by the next spring much of the mulch has turned to compost and is turned into the soil.

My wife was execuitor of her father’s estate; so, she had the task of disposing of their assets. Finding takers for the house, land and her fathers tools was easy, but we ended up with the food from their pantry. My wife’s mother passed away seven years ago and we are still eating caned items from her garden.

My father was a fantastic gardener. When I was very young, he did sell produce at the farmer’s market, but during most of my years at home, we didn’t sell anything. We just gave the neighbors the excess that we didn’t need. With six (6) childern, my family need a lot. He also built a spring fed one acre pond and stocked it with bluegill and channel cat fish.
When picking strawberries, we would get ten (10) galens at a time and I woulld look back down the rows and see as many berries left there as I had picked.
Our orchard had two trees of just about all nuts and fruit trees that would grow in the Southern U.S. plus blackberries and strawberries. I’ve added blueberries which my father never grew. My brother has added a PawPaw orchard.

If the worse case senerio occurs, all of our efforts mean nothing, but if we loose the grid and our economic system breaks down we can survive for an extended period.

I’ve been told that it’s more important to have guns than food. I’m a pacifast and don’t prescribe to that philosophy. I’m a spiritual being having a an earthly experience and if vilonce is the answer to survival, I’ll just return to spirit.

With love,
Latti

Erich
8th September 2012, 00:22
Another thing I know that some folks have done is apply homeopathic remedies to their garden. I really dont know about these applications, only that it is done. Anyone know more details?

Ive started using manure tea and it is making a big difference.

With veggie scraps I dont compost them. I just bury them in the soil between the plants. I might now try putting them in a bucket with sugar... I know this will produce lots of enzymes and microbes. Some people even drink stuff similar to this..

This is popular with the Amish. They bury scraps 10 or 12 inches below where they plant. This is also a kind of mound idea: branches, leaves are buried, a mound forms, etc...It works, but it takes a long time unless you have machines to move large piles of dirt.

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My family has several generations of great gardeners. When visiting family members in spring or summer, it's normal for them to say, “Let me show you my garden.” Yes, it’s always been a means of providing substanace for the family and neighbors, but I believe pride in accomplichment was always just as important.

I’ve always enjoyed planting and growing a garden, but cultivating and controlling the grass and weeds never appealed to me. So, I adopted a mulching system that doesn’t require cultivation after planting. In the fall when my neighbors bag up their leaves, I go throughout the neighborhood and collect the leaves. Some go on my compost pile, but others are used as mulch. As my garden plants grow, I add mulch until the space between plants is about six(6) to (8) inches deep. This holds soil moisture,keeps the grass and weeds controlled and by the next spring much of the mulch has turned to compost and is turned into the soil.

My wife was execuitor of her father’s estate; so, she had the task of disposing of their assets. Finding takers for the house, land and her fathers tools was easy, but we ended up with the food from their pantry. My wife’s mother passed away seven years ago and we are still eating caned items from her garden.

My father was a fantastic gardener. When I was very young, he did sell produce at the farmer’s market, but during most of my years at home, we didn’t sell anything. We just gave the neighbors the excess that we didn’t need. With six (6) childern, my family need a lot. He also built a spring fed one acre pond and stocked it with bluegill and channel cat fish.
When picking strawberries, we would get ten (10) galens at a time and I woulld look back down the rows and see as many berries left there as I had picked.
Our orchard had two trees of just about all nuts and fruit trees that would grow in the Southern U.S. plus blackberries and strawberries. I’ve added blueberries which my father never grew. My brother has added a PawPaw orchard.

If the worse case senerio occurs, all of our efforts mean nothing, but if we loose the grid and our economic system breaks down we can survive for an extended period.

I’ve been told that it’s more important to have guns than food. I’m a pacifast and don’t prescribe to that philosophy. I’m a spiritual being having a an earthly experience and if vilonce is the answer to survival, I’ll just return to spirit.

With love,
Latti

Hi Latti and All,

I also use fallen leaves (mostly from mango trees) as mulch or a kind of carpet in areas where I tend to walk or between rows where I don't grow much, but need good soil as the sowing moves to the next area. However, I don't use dead leaves for compost. Green leaves, yes...

Latti
8th September 2012, 02:30
Hi Latti and All,

I also use fallen leaves (mostly from mango trees) as mulch or a kind of carpet in areas where I tend to walk or between rows where I don't grow much, but need good soil as the sowing moves to the next area. However, I don't use dead leaves for compost. Green leaves, yes...

I agree that dry leaves don't add a lot of nutrients by themselves. I use them between layers of green mulch. The dry leaves are freely available ;so, i use what's available. Shredding the leaves also helps break them down.

Mu2143
8th September 2012, 06:13
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Erich
8th September 2012, 11:15
Hi Latti and All,

I also use fallen leaves (mostly from mango trees) as mulch or a kind of carpet in areas where I tend to walk or between rows where I don't grow much, but need good soil as the sowing moves to the next area. However, I don't use dead leaves for compost. Green leaves, yes...

I agree that dry leaves don't add a lot of nutrients by themselves. I use them between layers of green mulch. The dry leaves are freely available ;so, i use what's available. Shredding the leaves also helps break them down.

Do you know of any methods for shredding leaves without a machine?

Ki's
8th September 2012, 12:34
Hi Latti and All,

I also use fallen leaves (mostly from mango trees) as mulch or a kind of carpet in areas where I tend to walk or between rows where I don't grow much, but need good soil as the sowing moves to the next area. However, I don't use dead leaves for compost. Green leaves, yes...

I agree that dry leaves don't add a lot of nutrients by themselves. I use them between layers of green mulch. The dry leaves are freely available ;so, i use what's available. Shredding the leaves also helps break them down.

Do you know of any methods for shredding leaves without a machine?

lawn mower works...even the old push mowers.

Cjay
8th September 2012, 16:45
No doubt, making the best compost requires the widest possible variety of ingredients, including fruit/vegie/herb scraps.



Growing BIG Vegetables using Compost Tea

Your goal may not be growing giant vegies but simply growing healthier plants.

Healthy plants are far more resistant to pests and diseases. If you have healthy soil, your plants will be more vigorous and healthy. Healthy plants produce healthier food so that we too can be healthier and more resistant to pests and diseases.

Human health depends on soil health. If you don't have healthy soil, it's very difficult to grow healthy food.

Don't feed your plants - feed your soil. The soil feeds your plants. If your plants are malnourished, feed the soil. If your plants are healthy, feed your soil anyway.

With very little expense, time or effort, you can improve the health of your soil with compost tea.

One very important factor for healthy soil is the bio-diversity of the soil micro-organisms. One teaspoon of healthy, fertile soil contains around one trillion (1,000,000,000,000) micro-organisms. There are literally thousands of varieties of soil micro-organisms, each performing specific functions.

Some micro-organisms take nitrogen from the air and "fix" the nitrogen in the soil. Some micro-organisms deter plant pests. Some decompose specific compounds in dead plant matter or dead animals or manure or dead bacteria. Others convert mineral nutrients that cannot be absorbed by plants into a soluble form so the nutrients can easily be absorbed by plants.

Fungi grow huge networks of fibres that move nutrients around. The largest known single fungi networks cover thousands of hectares.

Agricultural chemicals, including fertilizers, pesticides and fungicides, kill most of the beneficial soil micro-organisms and kill many of the beneficial macro-organisms that live in the soil, such as worms and insects.

Most of the world's food is grown in soils that have been "killed" or made very unhealthy by the use of agri-chemicals. Every application of agri-chemicals harms the soil. Repeat applications of chemicals over a century has severely damaged farm soil world-wide.

This has very serious implications for food production because less quantity of food can be grown in unhealthy soil and that food is less nutritious. Most food is grown in huge mono-culture (single species) crops, which encourages plant pests and diseases. Most farmers respond by using more chemicals, which exacerbates the problem.

To feed the expanding human population, we need to grow more food in the next 50 years than we have grown in the last 500 years. We can't do that if we continue killing the soil that feeds us.

We can't completely fix the problem in a day but we can make a huge difference in just one day -
STOP using agri-chemicals and switch to organic fertilizers.
Make compost tea to replace some of the soil micro-organisms that have been killed by agri-chemicals.
Grow the maximum diversity of plant varieties you possibly can.


A friend of mine owns a company that makes liquid fertilizers for large organic farms. He also makes a "tea" which is diluted and applied through broadacre spray irrigation systems.

To make the tea, they fill a 1,000 litre container with water. 1,000 litres of water weighs 1,000 kg. They inoculate the water with micro-organisms, add a miniscule amount of micro-nutrients (trace elements), a small amount of sugary food for the micro-organisms, then vigorously bubble the water using a spa-blower. The micro-organisms multiply exponentially and within just 30 minutes, the water gains 140 kg, mostly nitrogen taken from the air by the micro-organisms.

If the container is sealed, the sides suck inward as the micro-organisms absorb the nitrogen from the air inside the container.

With compost tea, you are not just adding soil micro-organisms, you are also adding trace elements and FREE nitrogen, which is an essential nutrient for all plants.




WARNING: Dangerous micro-organisms can also multiply rapidly in compost tea.
If the compost smells bad, do not use it to make compost tea.

TIPS:
More air means faster brewing (30 minutes rather than 24 hours, as shown in the video)
and fewer dangerous micro-organisms.
To make the best compost tea, use the best possible sweet smelling, fresh compost.


In this video, John Evans - 9 times Guinness World Record holder for giant vegetables - shows how to make your own compost tea with a very cheap and simple setup consisting of a plastic bucket and a fish-tank blower. Anyone with the most basic DIY ability can easily, quickly and cheaply make compost tea.

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When you maximize the soil potential, you maximize the plant potential.

- 46 lb celery
- 18 lb carrots
- 35 lb cabbage
- 60 lb swiss chard
- 35 lb zucchini
- 40 potatoes from 1 plant

Healthy plants resists bugs and slugs from eating them. Plants that don't have to spend energy fighting off pests and diseases can focus all their resources on growing bigger. And if you maximize the soil's potential, it will maximize the plant's potential.

Feed the soil, not the plant. Using compost tea to deliver the nutritional equivalent of 500 lbs of compost. All the micro-organisms in the soil are stimulated to such a high point that they give the plant the maximum food for it's production. And more food for the soil means bigger, tastier, healthier veggies. In fact, they are ultra healthy, as measured by their brixx level, which is the amount of plant sugar they contain. In the grocery store, most plants have a Brixx level of between 6 and 10. These plants weigh in at a whopping 20, which means they taste more than twice as good, and are not stringy.

When the compost tea, it causes a bio-film that protects the plant from diseases and insects. Get the largest yield possible. To get their special formula, go to http://www.bountea.com

Applying Compost Tea is a simple way to grow food in greater abundance. Anyone can do it, once you learn how.

blufire
8th September 2012, 16:56
You are on to something very wise.

I have been using herbs, plants or weeds many years to heal or nourish the soils and land under my stewardship.

Just learn what each area of the soil needs by watching what weeds grow in that particular place . . . many times it is exactly what that soil needs to heal and become alive again.

Particular weeds or plants contain specific minerals and chemical constituents that when broken down through the seasonal growing cycles add those back into the soil. You can help the healing and nourishing cycle along by planting each plant or weed.

An example . . . in the spring observe farmland that has been sprayed with herbicides year after year, more often than not you will see a low growing purple flowered vine covering the land . . . there will be a beautiful purplish blue haze across the field. This particular ‘ground ivy’ contains a condensed amount of magnesium and this is largely one of the minerals first depleted from the soil when herbicides and ‘no till’ conventional farm practices are used. Mother Nature is healing this land by this little purple plant that somehow mysteriously appears.

A side note . . . because the soil is depleted of all minerals, like magnesium, the food we eat grown in these soils contain no minerals and therefore is why we are sick and susceptible to dis-ease.




Recently I had an Idea to enhance the soil ,by using fruits/ vegetables and herbs.
If you look at it, its very simple what every the benefits are from it will give this to the plant as well.

For Example Barbadensis Miller / Aloe Vera is for healing and give this to your plant it will have the same effect, so you can try many different mixes with this.

The best thing you can do for a good starter is put the seed(s) in a pot with the soil that is mixed with what ever you want to put in as a plant food source and then mix or add later the soil bacteria and fungi.

Effective microorganisms(EM-1/EM-A)) /kefir/Kombucha etc .

Everything is stored in to the DNA of the plant and this will change the plant and you will have more healthy seeds. Its all about healing nothing more.

Daughter of Time
8th September 2012, 19:36
Another thing I know that some folks have done is apply homeopathic remedies to their garden. I really dont know about these applications, only that it is done. Anyone know more details?

Ive started using manure tea and it is making a big difference.

With veggie scraps I dont compost them. I just bury them in the soil between the plants. I might now try putting them in a bucket with sugar... I know this will produce lots of enzymes and microbes. Some people even drink stuff similar to this..

Homeopathics for the soil must be chosen according to the history of the soil.

Homeopathics for a human being are chosen according to the person's history: pathology, constitution, emotional make-up, mental state, spiritual beliefs, social background, traumas, and other things. It is the same for the soil.

Since the soil cannot answer the question of its history in words that humans can understand, a radionics device must be used. When the radionics device is placed on the soil, it will inform which homeopathic remedies will be suitable. Mind you, radionics devices are rather costly therefore not feasible for small portions of soil for personal use. But if one had acres of land on which to grow produce, then a radionics practitioner could be consulted in order to get the proper assessment.

Mu2143
9th September 2012, 08:24
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blufire
9th September 2012, 13:18
LOL . . .Jeez Mu2143 . . . I just grow a few beans and taters.

If I have to become a multi-dimensional metaphysical levitating guru first I will starve . . . .



Look at it this way the physical world exist out of 5 dimensions(matter) in the 3th Density and our body is animated by the
spirit using 7 dimensions(DNA + water) and the gateway for life is water
with out water no spirit can connect to anything physical.

DNA and water atc like a crystal
(just like your Computer you can receive and store information in to it)

spirit <-> (DNA +water)
A plant growing and dying is a computer program (duality) and it does not exit in a non dual spiritual body (duality exist up to the 11th)

Pollution lowers the vibration of that spirit that is attached to it and this alters
the spirit that is attached to the plant and DNA.

bacteria ,fungi plants insects,animals, humans etc

So if the soil is pollution free it will heal the plant from the inside out by his spirit and you will get a
healthy plant. But you can chance the configuration of the plant from the out side using minerals (5 dimensional matter) which is dual in it creations

Spirit creates matter,because of this you can alter the configuration of the plant from the outside,
but because it is still a construct of a duality nature we still need to tranform this reality in to spirit first.

And for us to transform this planet to spirit again we need to create some thing new.
This something new must be created in the spirit first
before it can manifest in our world to uplift it (aka ascension).

Because of incarnation you have a lower self character from this world that you want to take with you in to the spirit (Eternal life)
You have this (body - soul 5/7 character) for this to take with you, you need to create the higher spiritual bodies that are non dual above the 7th.

So you have to create your 8th, (9th is important), 10th, 11th and then graduation is your 12th spiritual body of this body of chaos(5/7) and it can be done in this live.

Yeshua HaMashiach (9th) was the first one to create the blue print for the higher spiritual bodies (10th,11th) and 12th did not exist yet ,but he was resurrected.

(Check out Bob Deans interview on my youtube page he talks about it as well he know that this planet is a spiritual school) see Featured Playlists

healing our planet is by healing your self ,by doing and thinking in the way of the spirit.
That is why the teachings of Yeshua HaMashiach was called the teachings of "The way" in first century[/QUOTE]

Mu2143
9th September 2012, 13:49
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Arrowwind
11th September 2012, 11:59
So for the guy in this video who grows giant veggies in Alaska, granted the soil quality is of import, but how much do you think this size of fruit has to do with 20 hours of daylight for parts of the year?



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