!!! Reality Check !!!

[Andreash94]

HI guys . ok this might be my last Theard il start .im here for an year ,first time i was every day logged in and reading all caind of theards ,et's,enlightement,spirituality,ego,future and all .ok i have to say thx to all who posted em .but these days i start to see only disinfos and i see nothing real on this forum anymore . they are all superficial il say somthing.like
1.u belive in ET(me too but not in our galaxy) prove that they are here ,i have reiki initiations anytime i calleed em i see somthing negative.
2.i was lokin in many of religions ,the hardest ones for me look the realistest i seened how cristian ortodox do miracles ,i seened how taoism do miracles in perception of life ,they are prete the same .PROVE That this new Age that u create ur own dimension is true ,i belived in it 2 years but nothing hapened ,superficial,.
3.Evrything this days are fake ,or superficial even artificial o.o and we go DOWN prove me that we are going in a bright future .i srsly bilive in a bright duture but i cant prove that it wil bee evrything goes down and nobody cares neither i , sometime i qestion myself ,''i wan cahnge the world ,or to see its ending?''.
4.Yeap i stil got a bright vision on future but i need prof i lived too much time in lie and hoping somthing imposible ,.
5.you guys look for a spiritual path and enlightement on internet,(me too :P)we like to chose eazy ways ,well we need to look inside .how I dont kno :) but i started to stop do any harm to any alive creature (dont eat meat) started to pray alot and i see it work beter Way beter then any new age belives and that et blablabla helpers who want help us o.O yea shure ..:wacko: ok ok if i sound crazy dont answer me and sorry for my writing i kno im not good at it but i hope u understand what i mean:target:
:wizard:May the shadows never find you.:wizard:

oh yeah and i love this music so i need to post it :X BsK-OxJQJP8

[Mark]

I can see why you posted that music. Hardcore gangsta hip hop. Ultra-real coming from a street perspective where there is no time to daydream about aliens and mega-rich elites ruling a world we never see because we're not allowed there. There is an attraction to this viewpoint, especially given the disappointments that many are feeling with 2012 and the lack of effective 'proof' of any of the scenarios that have been put forth and that have contributed to the Awakening and subsequent disillusionment of so many.

Why would aliens from civilizations millions or billions of years older than ours come here? What do they need? What kind of consciousness could they have? Do they think the same way? Have the same priorities as we do?

Can we understand civilizations that old as being simply good or evil? Or have they gone beyond our understanding of either?

And what does it matter even if they do exist and are here? We still gotta put food on the table each day. Rob Peter to pay Paul. Deal with our families, friends, enemies and ourselves.

You're right though. What we seek is within.

Trick is, you gotta find it without looking for it. It only appears when you give up the search.

By stopping and just BEing. Living and responding to your environment in the moment, in the Now. Always.

This way of seeing life on the mean streets is exactly the perspective-shift needed for many who ignore that desperate and dangerous world of the unwanted that so many inhabit right now to their own peril. The compassion to understand why people feel this way, absolutely must live this way just to survive each day is opening the heart to the plight not only of the dispossessed but of the world.

Gaia is a gangsta too these days. About to get really real with those who are trying to take advantage of her bounty and destroy her body.

[RunningDeer]

Hello Andreash94,

A couple of weeks ago, I was in a confused place and spent a lot of time alone asking the "whys?" and "what for purpose". Nothing profound came up. Just an inner knowing that all the answers are within. I've just got to check in more often. Better still, don't check out.

I just came across this and saved a copy. Some of which you speak of in your post is in James' letter. It's from the "Up At The Ranch - James Gilliland & Trout Lake (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch--James-Gilliland-and-Trout-Lake-&p=551938&viewfull=1#post551938)" thread, post #2243. I thought you'd enjoy it.

Wishing you peace and joy on the journey of your choosing, with serendipitous harmony along the way.

Peace and Love,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer :wave:

[Fred Steeves]

Hi Andre. I have a sneaking suspicion that the Universe takes a special "liking" to those with the cojones to challenge sacred cows as you do. Now, if you REALLY want to make a run at something special in this life, try challenging everything, and I do mean everything, that you personally 'think' you know. Our own personal sacred cows are the most difficult to detect, much less to challenge.

Here's a very simple yet honest example. I think your taste in music sucks.(LOL) But then again, that's an old sacred cow of my own that I find difficult to shake, due to growing up in a different era, with different tastes, and different styles. It is not truth, and I know that.

I hope you'll think about it.

Cheers,http://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/cheers.gif
Fred

[DeDukshyn]

To extend on what Fred mentioned above - the only thing that you can change is you. The only thing that exists is your interpretation of things. That's it. Nothing else exists (I'll explain in a sec). Now, if you don't like what you are interpreting what needs to change? People are getting too caught up in needing to know "real" and "truth" and "right" and "wrong" -- these things are just generalized concepts that have no reality in themselves -- it is all about the experience in the moment.

Let me explain how nothing exists outside of you. When you see something across the room do you actually see it? No, you don't. What happens is that some high speed vibrating waves of energy (we call this "light) are bouncing off of other vibrating electromagnetic waves ("strings" - which make up all the tiniest particles known to man - thus all things are made from these "strings"), and the interactions of these vibrations cause the waves of light to be augmented slightly - varying their frequency.

Now these augmented waves of light are received by your eyes, but do your eyes see? No, they are just receivers of these vibrating waves - these waves mean absolutely nothing to your eyes; its like expecting a microphone to "hear" -- it does not, it just picks up sound vibrations and translates it into electrical signals. Your eyes do the same but on the frequency of light rather than sound. So by this point, what you think you see is a tiny electrical signal produced by your eyes and then transferred to you brain. Then, you brain must decipher that signal, how does it do that? it doesn't really -- all it does is remember and recognize patterns. It had to recognize the distinct patterns of vibrations for both colour and intensity - when you were a baby your brain had not seen enough patterns to categorize them. This is why babies cannot see. The same light is entering a newborns eyes as it is yours - the same signal is going through the optic nerves, the same patterns of vibrations are being interpreted by both yours and a newborns brain -- but only you can see - the baby cannot. Therefore what you think you see, only happens within the brain - nowhere else.

The above is an example of how you really see nothing outside of yourself and all is interpretations that happen within you.

So what does this mean? It means that that which is interpreted is a subjective illusion. This goes from your 5 senses to your emotions and thoughts and rationale on all topics, every time you think about something, label something, have an emotion toward something, like or dislike something, all you are doing is expressing that subjective illusion that is not real - but based upon your (or others') previous subjective illusions. Sounds ****ty eh? So what is real?

As Fred mentioned above only your current experience in the present moment is real. It sometimes takes a while for people to really understand what "The Present Moment" actually is, as the current state of humanity is to live completely outside the present moment.

If you worry about the future or something outside of yourself -- you are not in the present moment; if you are regretting the past or having run-on thoughts about "how it should have been" -- you are not in the present moment. If you are having "hope" - you are not being in the present moment.

If you have ever been in "The Zone" -- you know that mode, where you don't have to think - you just "Are" -- the "Zone" where pro athletes do their very best to get into for their events, or perhaps you have gotten into "The Zone" from really doing what you love, whether it be skateboarding, sports, knitting, art, dancing. This "Zone" is the present moment. Note that there is no fear in the zone, no thoughts at all, no worries, only love for whatever you are doing in that present moment.

So, in closing this long winded rant, I say stop trying to figure out this or that, and go straight to the "heart" of the matter, and realize that we are all just actors playing out roles, and it would be much more personally enjoyable if we each kept ourselves a little more in the present moment. Nothing else really matter all that much in comparison to this understanding.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Can't agree more, Andreash. The topics here have stagnated. You got a run on you by my buddies from the here and now thread, sorry about that.

I will also be starting a thread very similar to yours, have been composing it in my mind for a few days now.

But to back you up, yes, the stories have fragmented the audience - as I believe they were intended to do. But don't throw out the baby with the bath water. The treasure here is not the threads and the info - it is the people here. They are the "nuggets" of gold. They shine with a thousand lights, brighter than any dissention between them.

And from time to time they burst forth with inspiration and wisdom like a super nova! That is the strength of this forum. IMO

Thanks for sounding off and for the honesty.

[OBwan]

1. You believe in ET (me too but not in our galaxy) prove that they are here. I have reiki initiations anytime I called them I see something negative.

A belief is nothing more than a thought you continue to think. Your belief thoughts can be influenced in an empowering or disempowering way. Trying to prove something that cannot be proven at this time can drive a person crazy. The earth not being the center of our solar system was not disproven until the mathematics evolved to disprove this belief.

If you believe that there can only be negative things with your interactions, this may be limiting your communications. There is the belief that for every negative thing, there is an opposite positive thing. Many have had positive interactions with ET. If these interactions are creating fear, you have the choice not to interact.

2. I was token in many of religions, the hardest ones for me look the realists I have seen how Christian orthodox do miracles, I seemed how Taoism do miracles in perception of life, they are pretend the same. PROVE that this “New Age” that you create your own dimension is true, I believed in it 2 years but nothing happened, superficial.

A group called The Flat Earth Society still exists today. The members deny the reality belief that the earth is round, and live their lives with this different point of view. How you live depends upon your reality and how your reality has evolved. Things such as refrigerators, microwaves, and E-mail are no longer outside of our reality. What was believed to be a miracle before is not viewed as a miracle now.

Over time, beliefs do change. As a child, I remember hearing about the first heart transplant and now this is routine surgery. There have been many miracles in my life that I now do not think of as miracles. The conclusion, then, is that what is considered a miracle in one person’s reality is not necessarily the same in someone else’s. A miracle is in the eye of the beholder. When did the “New Age” start? How do you define a miracle?

3. Everything these days are fake, or superficial even artificial and we go DOWN prove me that we are going in a bright future. I surely believe in a bright future but I can’t prove that it will be everything goes down and nobody cares neither I, sometime I question myself, ''I want change the world, or to see its ending?''.

A calculation has been done determining the space versus the physical parts of an atom. The results determined that 99.9993% of the atom is non- physical. One could take a perspective that everything with a number of 99.9993% is a fake. The first time I held my children is a feeling that I can recall now and have a real feeling of love. I am thankful that the world did not end before held my children. How do you define real or fake?

There is a server at a local a restaurant I frequent who is a loving person. She interacts with the customers in ways that is beyond the normal customer service. One day a lady came into the restaurant and was out-of-sorts. As this server stopped by to check on needs such as drinks, she interacted in a loving and supportive way. Six months later the lady returned to have lunch. She was in a completely different emotional state. As a thank you for the interaction on the first visit, the server was given a handmade afghan. The customer never came back. I love stories like this for they show the power of a loving perspective.

Rather than thinking about how to change the world, thinking about how you can impact life in a loving way in the world around you would be a more empower thought process.

4. Yeap I still got a bright vision on future but I need proof I lived too much time in lie and hoping something impossible,

Hopeful thoughts can be guided to optimism and other empowering thoughts. You can have a belief that something is possible or impossible. Choosing to think something as possible will result in better physical and emotional health. In other words, you can think fearful thoughts or trusting thoughts. This is everyone’s free will.

5. You guys look for a spiritual path and enlightenment on internet,(me too )we like to chose easy ways, well we need to look inside. How I don’t know but I started to stop do any harm to any alive creature (don’t eat meat) started to pray a lot and I see it works better, way better than any new age believes and that ET bla bla bla helpers who want help us. O yeah sure, ok if I sound crazy don’t answer me and sorry for my writing I know I’m not

Many with “New Age” philosophy do not eat meat and pray. This is a behavioral choice. If these behaviors empower you, continue to make these choices. The decisions we make by the thoughts that we choose moves our lives in a different direction. For example, a woman or man in an abusive relationship who chooses to think different thoughts finds available resources to assist.

The intention of Project Avalon and Project Camelot was to provide information. Many people hold on to beliefs that are disempowering. A belief is nothing more than a thought you continue to think. As one focuses thought, unexplained things occur. I acknowledge Bill and Kerry to choose to find truth. As one continues to focus thought, the illusion of fear disappears.


Keep your thoughts positive, because your thoughts become your words.

Keep your words positive, because your words become your behaviors.

Keep your behaviors positive, because your behaviors become your habits.

Keep your habits positive, because your habits become your values.

Keep your values positive, because your values become your destiny.

~ Gandhi ~

[Adi]

To extend on what Fred mentioned above - the only thing that you can change is you. The only thing that exists is your interpretation of things. That's it. Nothing else exists (I'll explain in a sec). Now, if you don't like what you are interpreting what needs to change? People are getting too caught up in needing to know "real" and "truth" and "right" and "wrong" -- these things are just generalized concepts that have no reality in themselves -- it is all about the experience in the moment.

Let me explain how nothing exists outside of you. When you see something across the room do you actually see it? No, you don't. What happens is that some high speed vibrating waves of energy (we call this "light) are bouncing off of other vibrating electromagnetic waves ("strings" - which make up all the tiniest particles known to man - thus all things are made from these "strings"), and the interactions of these vibrations cause the waves of light to be augmented slightly - varying their frequency.

Now these augmented waves of light are received by your eyes, but do your eyes see? No, they are just receivers of these vibrating waves - these waves mean absolutely nothing to your eyes; its like expecting a microphone to "hear" -- it does not, it just picks up sound vibrations and translates it into electrical signals. Your eyes do the same but on the frequency of light rather than sound. So by this point, what you think you see is a tiny electrical signal produced by your eyes and then transferred to you brain. Then, you brain must decipher that signal, how does it do that? it doesn't really -- all it does is remember and recognize patterns. It had to recognize the distinct patterns of vibrations for both colour and intensity - when you were a baby your brain had not seen enough patterns to categorize them. This is why babies cannot see. The same light is entering a newborns eyes as it is yours - the same signal is going through the optic nerves, the same patterns of vibrations are being interpreted by both yours and a newborns brain -- but only you can see - the baby cannot. Therefore what you think you see, only happens within the brain - nowhere else.

The above is an example of how you really see nothing outside of yourself and all is interpretations that happen within you.

So what does this mean? It means that that which is interpreted is a subjective illusion. This goes from your 5 senses to your emotions and thoughts and rationale on all topics, every time you think about something, label something, have an emotion toward something, like or dislike something, all you are doing is expressing that subjective illusion that is not real - but based upon your (or others') previous subjective illusions. Sounds ****ty eh? So what is real?

As Fred mentioned above only your current experience in the present moment is real. It sometimes takes a while for people to really understand what "The Present Moment" actually is, as the current state of humanity is to live completely outside the present moment.

If you worry about the future or something outside of yourself -- you are not in the present moment; if you are regretting the past or having run-on thoughts about "how it should have been" -- you are not in the present moment. If you are having "hope" - you are not being in the present moment.

If you have ever been in "The Zone" -- you know that mode, where you don't have to think - you just "Are" -- the "Zone" where pro athletes do their very best to get into for their events, or perhaps you have gotten into "The Zone" from really doing what you love, whether it be skateboarding, sports, knitting, art, dancing. This "Zone" is the present moment. Note that there is no fear in the zone, no thoughts at all, no worries, only love for whatever you are doing in that present moment.

So, in closing this long winded rant, I say stop trying to figure out this or that, and go straight to the "heart" of the matter, and realize that we are all just actors playing out roles, and it would be much more personally enjoyable if we each kept ourselves a little more in the present moment. Nothing else really matter all that much in comparison to this understanding.

This is a brilliant message, that has an overwhelming truth to it.

Thank you.

[DeDukshyn]

Can't agree more, Andreash. The topics here have stagnated. You got a run on you by my buddies from the here and now thread, sorry about that.

I will also be starting a thread very similar to yours, have been composing it in my mind for a few days now.

But to back you up, yes, the stories have fragmented the audience - as I believe they were intended to do. But don't throw out the baby with the bath water. The treasure here is not the threads and the info - it is the people here. They are the "nuggets" of gold. They shine with a thousand lights, brighter than any dissention between them.

And from time to time they burst forth with inspiration and wisdom like a super nova! That is the strength of this forum. IMO

Thanks for sounding off and for the honesty.

Geeze, thanks Ernie ... we're just trying to help ;)

Bah! I say just get to the point where you see the illusion for the illusion and have confidence in the Now. After that none of the BS that bothered you before continues to do so, and you are automatically attracted to the things that are good for you without a subjective interpretation. The faster you can get to that point, the more you can sit back and enjoy the show, and muse on everyone else interpretations and offerings without that pressing "Need to know what's real!" entity, of having to judge them and place varying degrees of value. Life is art, and from my perspective is better enjoyed when seen from that view.

I lay this out here because for me this was the game changer after growing sick of many similar frustrations in my life.

For me the problems presented do not exist - (i.e. are there Et's or not?) I enjoy reading up on everyone's interpretation of this from the now, and I don't really need to know whether they are real or not. If I did need to know, then that answer would be provided to me in the appropriate way, but it doesn't mean anyone else will see what I know as "proof" at all. So what does it matter?

I'm in a very objective mood again today, lol ;) .. obviously, by my last few posts today. My 2 cents ;)

[Andreash94]

Got it guys thx for answers :X Peace & Love .

[deridan]

whatever whatever

post edit check in compassion:

listen fri-end,
what i've heard does not make particular sense

you've done reiki experiences to see ufo's , u say u've been successful,
i've heard of reiki, but i've not actually ever found a mass source, ..perhaps it is only present to those with bucks,
then it also might be a silly exercise,

ur experiences have been not so good,....that means u've seen something and have been scared,
much like an immature person taking drugs, and who's spirit was not on the right rotation to handle input or acceleration from that drug (i.e. they tested lsd on soldiers to see if they would perform better, they didn't, there spirits where in the 1900-50 bracket, if it was a soldier environment, lsd would make me a better killer)

u've seen ufo's, yet u believe that ets aren't in this galaxy.....?....no elucitations on your part that this was government, or that et/ufo experiences are so rare that only governments have managed to steal some of there technology to show-boat.

great, like u i am an optimist,...how else would we live and not die,
boy, i've seen clocking -who could have that, apart from the real deal-