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Midnight
12th September 2012, 04:53
I got fooled in the 1990's with predictions of Earth changes.
It looks like I have been fooled once again with the 2012 predictions.

Don't misunderstand me. I have no doubt that ET, both physical and multidimensional are here playing a role. And I have no doubt that there is an element of evil that is controlling this world, that for sure is human, and most probably includes non-human entities, some of whom might be multi-dimensional.

But the 2012 predictions are fizzling like a balloon poked with a needle.

All future predictions will be ignored by me. This doesn't mean something isn't happening behind the reality curtain. But predictions be gone!

bluestflame
12th September 2012, 04:57
for every real being, deity, group or organisation saying they are "insert name here" there are multitudes of trixters that rely on peoples tendancy to focus on the words and not the essence of the energy that's behind them

it's how politicians get away with things cos people have learnt to ignore thier intuitive nature and rely on logic only

Hip Hipnotist
12th September 2012, 05:46
Stick with the only predictions you can depend on...

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and don't get fooled again. ;-)

PHARAOH
12th September 2012, 12:09
Depend on this Midnight,

While everyone is caught up in all the hypes "THEY" put out (Alighnments, Ascensions, Mass Arrests, Death Stars, ET Rescuers, 2012 and the list can go on forever.... the only thing that is a sure certainty is the completion of the NWO and the inevitable enslavement of humanity. Period!!!

By the time everyone realizes they have been had, they will be in-formation to get microchipped. Unfortunately, this is our future as too many are happy to cling to anything other then face the reality that we are already there without the detention centers, FEMA camps, and microchips. We have already surrendered and not a shot has been fired. Not that I advocate shooting as the answer but I do advocate: "TOTAL AND COMPLETE NON-COMPLIANCE".

Until then, see you at the soup line.

Humbly submitting my observation of over 25yrs.

humanalien
12th September 2012, 14:02
I feel the same way. Whether people are really serious when
they make a prediction or whether they make them just to sell
books, in either case, none of them ever come to pass.

People are better off just not believing anything that anyone
says. That way, they aren't let down when something doesn't
come true. It doesn't matter if these people making all the predictions
are very popular people or if they are unknown people, not one
of them can predict the future and neither can aliens.

RMorgan
12th September 2012, 14:15
I feel the same way. Whether people are really serious when
they make a prediction or whether they make them just to sell
books, in either case, none of them ever come to pass.

People are better off just not believing anything that anyone
says. That way, they aren't let down when something doesn't
come true. It doesn't matter if these people making all the predictions
are very popular people or if they are unknown people, not one
of them can predict the future and neither can aliens.

Hey mate,

I agree. After hundreds of years of failed predictions, I came to the conclusions that no one can predict the future.

This old thread of mine is a good example:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45294-Predictions-that-never-happened-

When I started the above thread, I was hoping to find predictions that actually happened; good ones, direct, with no margin for adaptation and misinterpretation, but I couldn´t find any.

All "successful" predictions, those that supposedly became true, are in fact postdictions, which means that people associate vague and ambiguous prophecies after something happens, not before. This is nothing but cheating.

After something like 9/11 happens, people rush to find any ancient prediction that fits the scenario and most likely find some old text saying something like "and the dragons flew into the mountains and then there was fire and death"...Then they say that someone has predicted it, while in fact, such text could fit countless different scenarios. This is like a classic Nostradamus case.

So, we´re in the same boat.

Cheers,

Raf.

Peace of Mind
12th September 2012, 14:41
Less than 3 months to go and nothing significant has happen yet. Whistleblowers are quite (probably too busy cashing checks from all the false material they been peddling). I wouldn't be surprised if the Elitist were behind all of this. They have been very good at manipulating and stagnating the masses. I think the 2012 theories are wonderful, almost too good to be true and for this reason i admit it has taking some of my time and energy (something I hardly waste).
I can never get back that time back and it could have been used on many more constructive and meaningful things. I especially feel sorry for those that went out of their way advertising this to people,friends and their love ones just to look crazy in the end.

I mean, for something so significant why isn't there a clear sign of "said" prediction? I'm willing to bet that this will be pushed back to a later date, I'm just wondering if people will still follow the hype. I wish these disempowered people will pick themselves up, regain their power, get out in the real world and make real changes instead of letting people with indefinable material/testimonies design their reality for them. Words just can't express how sad and disheartening this is turning out to be.

Peace

RMorgan
12th September 2012, 14:53
Less than 3 months to go and nothing significant has happen yet. Whistleblowers are quite (probably too busy cashing checks from all the false material they been peddling). I wouldn't be surprised if the Elitist were behind all of this. They have been very good at manipulating and stagnating the masses. I think the 2012 theories are wonderful, almost too good to be true and for this reason i admit it has taking some of my time and energy (something I hardly waste).
I can never get back that time back and it could have been used on many more constructive and meaningful things. I especially feel sorry for those that went out of their way advertising this to people,friends and their love ones just to look crazy in the end.

I mean, for something so significant why isn't there a clear sign of "said" prediction? I'm willing to bet that this will be pushed back to a later date, I'm just wondering if people will still follow the hype. I wish these disempowered people will pick themselves up, regain their power, get out in the real world and make real changes instead of letting people with indefinable material/testimonies design their reality for them. Words just can't express how sad and disheartening this is turning out to be.

Peace

Hey mate,

Of course they will push it to another date. That´s all they do!

Almost all new age "celebrities" are preaching this 2012 thing, specially regarding this ascension nonsense, and when nothing out of the ordinary happens, they´ll come up with the usual excuses.

Remember David Wilcock and his previous "ascension2000" website? :doh:

I get really sad just to thing that a lot of people will continue to follow these guys, even when they push the date to 2013, 2015 and so on.

If people are so frustrated about their lives, they should get up and do something about it now, not keep waiting for some sort of miracle to solve their problems and swallowing all sorts of BS indiscriminately.

I´ll never understand why people are so addicted to this prediction stuff anyway...Any of us could die any time.

Personally, I just live one day after another and try to learn and be happy as much as I can in the process.

Cheers,

Raf.

araucaria
12th September 2012, 14:58
Depend on this Midnight,

While everyone is caught up in all the hypes "THEY" put out (Alighnments, Ascensions, Mass Arrests, Death Stars, ET Rescuers, 2012 and the list can go on forever.... the only thing that is a sure certainty is the completion of the NWO and the inevitable enslavement of humanity. Period!!!

By the time everyone realizes they have been had, they will be in-formation to get microchipped. Unfortunately, this is our future as too many are happy to cling to anything other then face the reality that we are already there without the detention centers, FEMA camps, and microchips. We have already surrendered and not a shot has been fired. Not that I advocate shooting as the answer but I do advocate: "TOTAL AND COMPLETE NON-COMPLIANCE".

Until then, see you at the soup line.

Humbly submitting my observation of over 25yrs.

According to "Raf's law", this prediction is bound to fail with all the others - suits me :)

eni-al
13th September 2012, 00:37
I think there is a lot more false or misleading ideas than just predictions being made everywhere, but the predictions are the things that get most following, annihilation of the world or humanity, or major changes, has probably been in the back the mind since civilisation began, or at least a civilisations own demise.

Cognitive Dissident
13th September 2012, 01:04
I don't believe in predictions generally, and not for December 2012.

Having said that, if as appears likely time is an illusion, then the future in some way already exists. So we should be able to access it, if only informationally.

I have heard a number of interviews with Countney Brown where he describes a remote viewing experiment where they looked a few months into the future, described an event, then sealed and encryted the RV session until after the target date had past, then opened it with positive results. I have not found the raw data and analysis of this, but if this is correct, it would stand up as a prediction.

And if this is the case, then we should only look at methodologies like RV to give us insight into the future. Which brings me to the subject of Courtney Brown's predictions for June 2013. Of course, he doesn't call them predictions, but you see the point.

jackovesk
13th September 2012, 01:10
I'm into 'REALITY' moreso than 'PREDICTIONS'...:yes4:

But there is 1 small Problem...

When you think about it, baring in Mind our Current (Economical & Social) environment...

Unfortunately the 2 'Words' = The (SAME) thing..!!!

PHARAOH
13th September 2012, 12:12
According to "Raf's law", this prediction is bound to fail with all the others - suits me


I, more then anyone wish you were right. However the facts state otherwise. Anyone with a phone, i-pad, gps, license tag, etc can be tracked as if they were already microchipped. Again, it is not happening the way they are showing us in mass videos but in much more subtle ways.

What was that bable quote: "The devil being the most subtle of all the beasts". As you can see and experience yourself; this is how they operate. The trick (MAGIK) is to make evil "FAIR SEEMING". This is their tactic. But hey, don't believe me. Were just living in this day and time.

:spy: :spy: :spy: Please don't mind these guys, they are here only to protect us. :fish: :wizard:

A Simple Human
13th September 2012, 19:13
You know what they say, "Fool me once,"...

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:pound:MAO,

A.S.H.

Rocky_Shorz
13th September 2012, 19:33
I got fooled in the 1990's with predictions of Earth changes.
It looks like I have been fooled once again with the 2012 predictions.

Don't misunderstand me. I have no doubt that ET, both physical and multidimensional are here playing a role. And I have no doubt that there is an element of evil that is controlling this world, that for sure is human, and most probably includes non-human entities, some of whom might be multi-dimensional.

But the 2012 predictions are fizzling like a balloon poked with a needle.

All future predictions will be ignored by me. This doesn't mean something isn't happening behind the reality curtain. But predictions be gone!

if you were sitting in the path of the Cat 5 Super Cyclone right now with gusts up to 315 km/h, you might believe there are earth changes happening this year...

Hottest year on record... smallest ice cap...

denying there are any climate changes is Koch's job, not ours here at Avalon... ;)

Healthy Skeptic
14th September 2012, 03:05
If I could find some 'sucker', I would like to make a $1 Million bet that 'There will be NO Apocalypse on Dec 21 2012'.
Why?
Because if I am right, then I collect $1 Million.
If I am wrong, then I won't be around to pay my debt!!

araucaria
14th September 2012, 07:32
If I could find some 'sucker', I would like to make a $1 Million bet that 'There will be NO Apocalypse on Dec 21 2012'.
Why?
Because if I am right, then I collect $1 Million.
If I am wrong, then I won't be around to pay my debt!!

And if something nice happened, it might be that money has gone completely out of fashion :)

modwiz
14th September 2012, 07:37
If I could find some 'sucker', I would like to make a $1 Million bet that 'There will be NO Apocalypse on Dec 21 2012'.
Why?
Because if I am right, then I collect $1 Million.
If I am wrong, then I won't be around to pay my debt!!

Now, who could argue with that kind of logic?

TelosianEmbrace
14th September 2012, 08:24
I live my life everyday with the hope that we will find ourselves in a better place. A place where we can speak openly and honestly, and be heard. A world where we can love each other without limit. A world where our children are told the truth about our history, our lineage, our place within the universe. Where they are cherished as the Divine beings they are. I focus my whole life, my whole intent, on bringing about a world of peace, of harmony, where all beings are healthy and happy, and do what they enjoy doing. No more wars, no more suffering, no more ignorance. This will come about, whether tomorrow, on December 21st, or at some other time. It will come about, as sure as I breathe, for it is who I am.

Have belief in yourself and what you do, that is all that matters.

araucaria
14th September 2012, 08:50
According to "Raf's law", this prediction is bound to fail with all the others - suits me


I, more then anyone wish you were right. However the facts state otherwise. Anyone with a phone, i-pad, gps, license tag, etc can be tracked as if they were already microchipped. Again, it is not happening the way they are showing us in mass videos but in much more subtle ways.

What was that bable quote: "The devil being the most subtle of all the beasts". As you can see and experience yourself; this is how they operate. The trick (MAGIK) is to make evil "FAIR SEEMING". This is their tactic. But hey, don't believe me. Were just living in this day and time.

:spy: :spy: :spy: Please don't mind these guys, they are here only to protect us. :fish: :wizard:

Then why are you advocating total and complete non-compliance if it is a done deal?

I'm merely suggesting that the manner and scale of such non-compliance may be enough to halt this juggernaut, even though you might not see it.
:)

PHARAOH
14th September 2012, 13:19
Then we both agree and have come to the same conclusion. Total and Complete NON-COMPLIANCE is the only true, battle tested example we have to stop the madness. As was demonstrated to us by the likes of the great Ghandi and MLK.

:grouphug: :cantina: :fans:

araucaria
14th September 2012, 17:27
Total rejection, I agree - on the higher level of intention.

The devil's strong suit may be subtlety, but we tackle this with the utmost unsubtlety, just one word: NO.