Love, Praise, Thanksgiving and My "Green-ray" Open Heart Problems.

[Anchor]

Chakra’s get a lot of air time on forums like this. It seems that you can’t spend too long on a forum that is connected with spirituality without encountering the chakras – at least the seven main ones, each with their rainbow colours. Nor can you go far in such a context without encountering people that seem to know a lot about them.

What do you do, when like me, you understand at an intellectual level what a chakra is, but in a practical sense have no inner awareness relating to them. I can’t really "feel" them - that is to say, for the most part they are not part of my current sensory world.

Here are the exceptions: in the past when I have had to speak about emotionally charged / sad things my throat tightens up and I have difficulty speaking. I can imagine this would be a blue ray blockage – and I can feel a constriction in energy as my body fails to operate in accordance with my will to speak at that moment.

I read about people doing this or that meditation to unblock them, open them, and spin them this way and that. I honestly have no real idea what they are talking about. The knowledge is veiled from me.

On the occasions when I am aware of Aura, I do not see any chakras.

I know a lot of people do energy work that involves them, and regard the disciplines surrounding them with great seriousness – which they must, lest they burn!

I have an idea that my heart is blocked, I do not however feel a constriction that way - possibly because I don't know any better?

I have the same kinds of intellectual challenge with the idea of love as I do chakras.

I understand/accept that spiritual work, of a service to others nature, is most successfully done with an open heart. Open heart is synonymous with Love. Hearts love - everyone knows that right? The symbol of a Love is an “archetypal” heart shape – the love heart. It’s so common – except you often see them as red – which is very strange, as they should be green! Red ray is the sex/generative associated with power – so why would one draw a love heart and then colour it red and not green? I suppose either it’s because hearts pump blood which is red but you don’t see lovers sending their partners pictures of an actual heart. Perhaps some clever social engineering has been done. Same as with traffic lights – red for stop, when in nature red means DANGER - RUN AWAY! While Green is the happy relaxed colours of nature and really would be best as the stop and chill sign instead of GO!

So, clearly, if I think mine is blocked, how to I unblock it? What is it that I must do?

Following on from the idea of the heart being the green ray center, then I suppose I can say my heart chakra is blocked and that might mean something relevant. I know from what I have read that if my green ray chakra is blocked then, the fulcrum about which the others (lower: red, orange and yellow) and higher (blue, indigo violet) are balanced are also not going to be playing in the full symphony.

One day recently I mentally asked to be helped with this. I’ve had a few interesting weeks and I wanted to write down some things about this, in case it helps anyone else.

The most recent and particularly potent unfolding in this conundrum was when I was strongly attracted to something that I heard on one of L/L Research blogtalkradio shows which may have unlocked some of the problem for me.

The show started as it often does with a quote from the law of one material. It concerns psychic attack, but this is not related to this post and would be off topic for this thread – it is the answer which is something that has unlocked a new path of discovery for me.

http://lawofone.info/results.php?s=63&v=e&sc=1&ss=1#5

Questioner: I know that you have already answered this question, but I feel it my duty now to ask it each time in case there is some new development, and that is, is there anything that we can do that we aren’t doing to lessen the effectiveness of the psychic attack upon the instrument?

Ra: I am Ra: Continue in love and praise and thanksgiving to the Creator. Examine previous material. Love is the great protector.

This is the key bit:

Continue in love and praise and thanksgiving to the Creator.

Carla says that these things are related but play in different harmonics. Certainly they all seem to me to be related.

For this topic, I disregarded the context about psychic attack, I am more interested in those three elements of what is necessary to do – which are harmonics of LOVE FOR THE CREATOR, and RA is saying one should “continue”, which means keep at it all the time.

This set me thinking….

So I did a self diagnosis check:

Love – sort of checked – I love more things in life than I do not – on reflection, perhaps the intent to love is there, but the expression of it is attenuated by other problems I may have. Thanksgiving – checked – I do this every day pretty much, I am thankful for all I have and receive and try to remember to bless food and things and people often Praise – hmmm - Houston we have a problem!

Right. What is my problem with praise? I think figured some of it out - it is prejudice against praise in organized religion.

This past weekend I discovered Krishna Das, the famous (but formerly, somehow unknown to me) American Kirtan singer. Someone here posted a list of the 100 most spiritually influential people still alive and I saw Krishna Das (also Ram Das, one of my hero’s) – and I wondered who that was – google and then the next thing I know I went on a bit of a UT orgy and and the mp3’s are finding their way onto my player. I posted some here: [ http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49351-Music-that-Touches-Your-Soul&p=553695&viewfull=1#post553695 ]

The hare krishna one really knocked me for six – also, “By your grace”. It is the missing part of the puzzle – which was PRAISE.

I spent a lot of my energy as a youth resisting attempts by the Sunday schools, Mandatory religious education and church to brainwash me. I succeeded but it seems that along the way I developed some serious prejudice against the happy-clappy praise-the-lord crowd.

Is this why whenever I walk down the road and see the ISKCON guys literally having the time of their lives chanting and singing praise to Krishna as they prance, carefree down George Street in the Sydney CBD - banging the drum, and praising Krishna - they stand out to me as something special ? (Also I am thinking I have not seen this for a while… I wonder where they went.)

Yet when I see people in regimented worship, I contract/recoil in, I suppose, fear. I never did figure that out before.

This weekend I think I may have discovered my problem. I need to praise the lord – LOL.

I already know that my mental auto-corrector has been programmed to convert LORD to The one infinite creator - so even though the word LORD is church associated, I'm cool with it. I needed a word and that word is the one for me. Again the need to do this used to be down to those old fear conditioned survival moves I made to protect my young minds independence (I think I won by the way!) from the assaults of childhood/early-teens social conditioning but it has left so much behind that I was not aware of – that I now need to let fall away. I have been looking through jaundiced filters of my own making at the whole notion of praise and consequently I have probably missed out on a good deal of available enjoyment as well.

Krishna Das has a CD called “Heart As Wide as The World”. I am confident that listening to this man as I have listened to Ram Das in the past with new ears that do not filter away the prejudices I spoke of above will help me squeegee clean my heart chakra and make it more open.

It was when I heard the song “By Your Grace”, when a significant puzzle piece dropped into place with that purposeful quality feel of precisely engineered fit.

Here are the words of praise in that song that have finally informed me of where I can improve – the recognition of praise for the creator:

Closer than breath, you are the air
Sweeter than life itself, you are here
I am a wanderer, you are my peace
I am a prisoner, you are release

Jai Gurudev...

I am a pilgrim, your road so long
I am the singer, you are the song
Held in the open sky, so far above
I am the lover, you are the love

Jai Gurudev...

I follow your footsteps through the flame
All that I ever need is in your name
Carry your heart in mine, vast as space
All that I am today is by your grace.
By your Grace...
I live by your grace.


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So, here is where I am at: I have wandered far from home. Here and now I experience this organized chaos of a planet – and taste the infinite power of the one infinite creator as it flows though me and out into the dense milieu which we are here to lighten up.

To do this better I need to ensure that the three harmonics of service to the creator are balanced:

Love Thanksgiving Praise

I have written the (borrowed) phrase - sing in praise - in a few posts on forums like this, yet it is something I never do myself, sing in praise that is. Makes me a bit of a hypocrite I suppose.

I think I will start to practice that.

Thanks for reading this far :)

Thanks to everything, some synchronicity that involves this forum, and Krishna Das and Carla Ruekert.

I think I have found the missing harmonic that will let me open my heart more fully.

[markpierre]

Really great post Anchor. I won't speak for everyone, but for the most part we're so perceptual that we won't be much aware of expansions and contractions of the chakras.
Our perceptual senses aren't very subtle at their best. It's unfortunate that we miss most of what 'life' there is to experience in the physical because we simply don't have the sensitivity.
But you're aware that that's all changing, and that's why you're talking about it.

The best 'exercise' as you pointed out, is gratitude. Kind thoughts and kind actions are good simulators. It's hard to fabricate feelings, but like the action of smiling stimulates us chemically,
intending love is a cheap sneaky way to stimulate your heart. It does work.
But your heart can be wide open, even if you think you're just pissed off. The energy system is just doing it's thing, irregardless of your conscious awareness.
But you can also find yourself in a dark and heavy mood without necessarily any burdensome thoughts associated with it. That might be an indication that your heart is closed,
but it may also be that there's a buildup and it's a bit uncomfortable, and the discomfort is what you perceive. We don't like discomfort as you've noticed.
When you find yourself feeling like that, the best way to deal with it is to think to yourself 'oh, my heart feels like it's closed' and then don't worry about it.
It may be best not to go around spreading your seeming lack of cheer.

When my crown opened tangibly for the first time, it was amazing. But after a while you integrate the difference that you experience and you don't notice it. Those upper chakras have been open and active in me for years, but that's not any sort of attainment or accomplishment, or solution to a problem.
I've struggled since with the bottom three, as do most people I've known who appear to be very spiritual.
Just a few years ago I found myself in a situation where I had to deal with the public on a daily basis. I discovered in that scenario a new ability to voice my heart.
It was so much fun that I spent idle time watching the door anticipating the next person who walked in that I was going to fall in love with.
Just an anecdote. Cool. So what. I enjoyed it. My throat had opened. So far so good, but I don't always feel like communicating. That doesn't mean anything.

A lot of guys, practitioners included that have a lot to say about the chakras and how they work and what they do and how to fix them are just liars. They might not know that.
A perfectly open and balanced energetic system is rare, but inevitable, and experientially has nothing to do with what we know about them. They aren't sick things that we have to fix.
They're fixing us. It's hidden stored trauma and misunderstandings that keep the energy from expressing normally, but your psychology and energy work together.
When you're ready, things open. You can't necessarily rush that, but you'll find yourself accelerating in the uncovering process as part of the process.
We don't change ourselves, we find ourselves changed. We have all the help and confrontation big and small that we need. There's nothing to learn but that we
don't have to protect ourselves from the universe. Any confrontation in your life lately? A few big ones? WW3 is big. Good opportunity.

Some kundilini practices can be dangerous with massive physical consequences. Serious practices include a lot of mental preperation. I mean lifetimes of it. And guys that think that they can open their own third eye and have superpowers. See through walls or something. Not. It's a more subtle perception than that.
It's more like it alters how you interpret what you perceive because you're getting more accurate information. I'm sure you notice a bit of that.
If opening the chakras by force of will is your thing then yea, but you'd better be psychologically prepared to be gutted. Do you see what I mean?
I mean the opening and healing of the chakras is a natural process, and keeps perfect pace with your experiences and your changes. All of those aspects of you are speeding up,
and we have a lot of fun playing with the science of it. But it's not such a big deal. Then again, it is a big deal.

To address the last part of your post because I really like it, I'll share this anecdote with you.
When I had my awakening or illumination or whatever you'd call it, the scenario was so confronting that out of desperation (maybe guided, I don't know) I started to recite The Lord's Prayer,
as emphatically as I could. I had a single thought which was unprecedented in it's honesty. It was, "I'm f__ked. And there's absolutely nothing I can do to fix it".
Instead of the devastation that I thought was about to crush me as I acknowledged the truth of my situation, and that I was the cause, I woke up in Reality.
I don't know if the prayer had anything to do with it, but I like to think so. Bill's assertion that there is no 'ascension' (I don't like that term) is dead wrong, with an emphasis on dead.
No disrespect to Bill, he just doesn't know. It's the nature of Reality that it has to be revealed. Not because I experienced it, but because of the nature of what I experienced.

As we get more true and honest we're joining what's already there because it draws us, but only 'sort of' to a point. There will be a moment that seems like as it's described 'in the blink of an eye', because that's exactly how it seems.
Some guys will argue with that but it doesn't change it.

What screws us up a little is the idea that there are 7 billion of us, or even some percentage that are real, and the rest that remain in illusion. There's not.
There's only one of us. It's you. All of the fear, and all of the overcoming of it is you. Illusions disappear because they're not real. The only thing that can be destroyed is illusion.

BTW, your heart's not blocked.

[lookbeyond]

Thanks to you both Anchor and markpierre for sharing

lookbeyond

[TraineeHuman]

Hi Anchor,

I've met a few individuals who I believe had completely open heart chakras -- and completely open hearts. One of them is a first cousin of mine, and she's a person everybody seems to instinctively like.

What I have seen in the auras of all these people wasn't green light near the heart. It was "lights" or dots made of rosey pink, blue, and white light. There were about five near the centre of the chest, then again (one light of each of the three colours) about two feet on either side, then again about two further feet out on either side, then again the same thing further out again; then again, another two feet or so out -- all glowing very brightly. But no green.

However, according to my observations the aura around a person's head will be mostly green if the heart chakra is the highest chakra that has been opened in that person, so far.

As far as I know, what blocks the heart is grief, loss. Usually it's connected to being badly hurt, let down, betrayed, taken advantage of.

[Kindred]

I'll make a very simplistic observation that I've found works for me. Words, and the Emotions connected to those words ARE the Power behind our Existence. However, do not mistake the words as the conveyors of these emotions... they are merely the current expression of an Emotion, in the language we've learned in this lifetime. It is the Emotion that carries this Power.

So, by inference, I'll suggest that if you can repeatedly use Positive words, the Emotions will follow... thus, if one wishes to create more Love, Speak OF Love, or speak IN Love. If one speaks OF or IN Truth, then the throat chakra will be opened.

In my own case, when meditating, I use primarily two incantations that I Emote Silently...
- Love, Joy and Healing for Gaia
- ALL for Others

Obviously, everyone has their own interpretation and choice of Words to use.. I'd simply recommend using Positive, Supportive words, much in the line of that Japanese 'researcher' who used words and emotions to affect water. After all, we are mostly water, Yes? (There's another Power word... YES.)

In Unity, Peace and Love
(see the connection?)

[markpierre]

I'll make a very simplistic observation that I've found works for me. Words, and the Emotions connected to those words ARE the Power behind our Existence. However, do not mistake the words as the conveyors of these emotions... they are merely the current expression of an Emotion, in the language we've learned in this lifetime. It is the Emotion that carries this Power.

So, by inference, I'll suggest that if you can repeatedly use Positive words, the Emotions will follow... thus, if one wishes to create more Love, Speak OF Love, or speak IN Love. If one speaks OF or IN Truth, then the throat chakra will be opened.

In my own case, when meditating, I use primarily two incantations that I Emote Silently...
- Love, Joy and Healing for Gaia
- ALL for Others

Obviously, everyone has their own interpretation and choice of Words to use.. I'd simply recommend using Positive, Supportive words, much in the line of that Japanese 'researcher' who used words and emotions to affect water. After all, we are mostly water, Yes? (There's another Power word... YES.)

In Unity, Peace and Love
(see the connection?)

Why? Do you have a problem with some of your emotions that you need to sedate?

In Unity, Peace and Love, might be a bit dishonest at times.

[Kindred]

Why? Do you have a problem with some of your emotions that you need to sedate?

In Unity, Peace and Love, might be a bit dishonest at times.

I'm somewhat in disbelief that you would suggest that positive intentions and emotions are somehow negative. I Strongly suggest that maintaining a positive attitude based on Love for one-another is the Surest way for Humanity to get past our current problems, All based on trying to maintain a Negative, Fear-based set of emotions.

All this is Not to suggest suppressing negative, or Fear-based emotions, but, rather, come to an Understanding of Why one Feels these (fear) emotions, and processing them to a fuller understanding.

In point of fact, if you listen to the Seth Speaks material, you'll come to understand that there was a civilization that Did suppress all negative emotion, to their own demise. This same material Also emphasizes that Love, and Positive thoughts and emotions have a controlling effect upon both our bodies, and our world in general.

The whole purpose of 9/11 was to cause a General Feeling of Fear and Helplessness... tptw Know what the Power of Emotion Is... and use it for their own purposes and ends. I'm hoping that more don't fall prey to their controls.

In Unity, Peace and Love - and these are Not 'Just words'... they are Emotions.

[spiritguide]

Life force energy as all energy is toroidal in nature. Charkras are energy centers and permeate matter with frequencies. The sacred octave is the key. Colors, sound and form have the same frequency at each octave. The heart charkra has two frequencies, one to receive and one to broadcast, those colors are green and red. Balance is optimum and extremes cause dis-ease.
IMHO

[markpierre]

Why? Do you have a problem with some of your emotions that you need to sedate?

In Unity, Peace and Love, might be a bit dishonest at times.

I'm somewhat in disbelief that you would suggest that positive intentions and emotions are somehow negative. I Strongly suggest that maintaining a positive attitude based on Love for one-another is the Surest way for Humanity to get past our current problems, All based on trying to maintain a Negative, Fear-based set of emotions.

All this is Not to suggest suppressing negative, or Feat-based emotions, but, rather, come to an Understanding of Why one Feels these (fear) emotions, and processing them to a fuller understanding.

In point of fact, if you listen to the Seth Speaks material, you'll come to understand that there was a civilization that Did suppress all negative emotion, to their own demise. This same material Also emphasizes that Love, and Positive thoughts and emotions have a controlling effect upon both our bodies, and our world in general.

The whole purpose of 9/11 was to cause a General Feeling of Fear and Helplessness... tptw Know what the Power of Emotion Is... and use it for their own purposes and ends. I'm hoping that more don't fall prey to their controls.

In Unity, Peace and Love - and these are Not 'Just words'... they are Emotions.

Okay. You didn't say that. That's what I wanted to hear. What you said was you like to affirmation your way into a more desirable frame of mind.
Don't be traumatized, you've been mistaking the intent. "positive intentions and emotions are somehow negative"? I don't think I said that. I didn't. Personally I think they're nothing.
If you mean it I think you're not even aware of it. Wouldn't even occur to you.

But unity isn't an emotion, peace isn't an emotion, and love isn't an emotion. They're all the feeling of distinct states of mind, and so is clarity. And they're all completely dispassionate because they're inclusive
so they don't feel the way anyone imagines.
We don't need to entertain them until we experience them, and know what they are. What we do instead is fraudulent.
And that realization is enough to begin to take you into a depth of honesty that's inescapable and it continues to go deeper, and may well take us into the terror that we perceive lies between us and reality.
It's not real and it's not true because nothing that it affects is, but it may raise a lot of wild emotions convincing you that it is. It's called a smokescreen and we pass through it. Truth sets you free.
Accepting those emotions is paramount. Accepting yourself in those emotions is as well, because they don't heal and shift until you do accept them.
Think of something that you've done, that you know you could never tell the truth about, but you have to. If you can't think of anything, make something up.
Here's a better one. You're adrift on the sea, and the only solution to the scenario is that first breath of water. Which breath do you decide it will be?
That's how tough it can be.
This is how we stimulate chakras. The energy body reflects those decisions to keep and possess those judgements as moments of indecision.
A moment of indecision can last as long as you want it to.

Or put it this way. I'm righteously annoyed at a bandicoot that digs in the leaf pile outside my bed every freeking night, and I'm enjoying the hell out of it. But I have deeper secrets.

Hey that's not knocking your tag, because I really like it. Now that I've explained that all to myself, it'll be more useful to me too.

[Anchor]

BTW, your heart's not blocked.

How about sub-optimally open?

At times I have managed to push huge amounts of energy through and out of my body, but it seems my path is doing some twists and turns of late which is frankly surprising me a lot. I'm not trying to force anything, but I think I have a few habits that need changing, and I need to let go of the next set of things that need letting go.


All,

I got "told" to write this stuff down because my "other-selves" would have interesting things to contribute that will help me. You are all delivering to order, and I thank you all.

Cop a love beam on me - LOL

Anchor..

[markpierre]

BTW, your heart's not blocked.

How about sub-optimally open?

At times I have managed to push huge amounts of energy through and out of my body, but it seems my path is doing some twists and turns of late which is frankly surprising me a lot. I'm not trying to force anything, but I think I have a few habits that need changing, and I need to let go of the next set of things that need letting go.


All,

I got "told" to write this stuff down because my "other-selves" would have interesting things to contribute that will help me. You are all delivering to order, and I thank you all.

Cop a love beam on me - LOL

Anchor..

That's pretty normal Anchor. Confrontation burns hotter.

Not sub-optimally either. Right where it needs to be. Just believe me. Opening and open are the same idea.

[Falcor]

john

after reading your first post, i get the impression that you are trying to understand a missing connection of 'feeling' with your mind. i humbly suggest, that you let all your thoughts go on what you think you need to do or change.....our thoughts are always the road blocks...the only thing you need to do in my opinion, is spend time to sit in your energy centers from beyond the mind.

[another bob]

Here are the words of praise in that song that have finally informed me of where I can improve – the recognition of praise for the creator...

Excellent -- praise is the true cure for the emotional contraction/neurosis that plagues most relations!

Blessings!

[Anchor]

john

after reading your first post, i get the impression that you are trying to understand a missing connection of 'feeling' with your mind.

Falcor,

Trust you to force me to greater clarity in my own mind on this :)

It was not so much a feeling of missing something.

I wish to more strongly polarize towards service to others.

There are parts of me which have been biasing what I choose to do that could (I suspected) and felt that this was impeding me.

My inquiry let me to discover a third mode of expression (praise of the creator) that I do not do in any significant way, except as an implicit thing when "thanking" - and I now see that though related they are not the same - and yet both important.

As you probably worked out by now, I am actually less concerned by my chakras and what I need to do with them, except that they do provide excellent context and a framework for addressing the subject. In that framework if a chakra is "blocked", is this not impeding a flow of energy - and perhaps causing friction (and heat) ? I wanted to see if I can wash out my pipes a bit more but I didnt know what the problem was.

The discovery of praise and then the consequent discover of why I might have not been naturally doing this has led me to some past structures in me that no longer serve a purpose. Having identified them, they are now, summarily dismissed.

I agree with your advice in the last part of your post. I will heed it.

John..

[DeDukshyn]

Haven't read you long opening post .. yet.

But I saw the title and thought ... "Finally! John reveals his true self! A Care Bear!!! .. I knew it!!"

;) ;) ;)

Looking forward to the read ;)

UPDATE EDIT:

After reading, I have to say I have been feeling very similarly, so thanks for sharing your experience and wisdom. I also thought of this: http://www.childrenoflight.com/monthly_weather_report_edit.htm

May be useful, if not, just disregard ;)

[Jenci]

I think I have found the missing harmonic that will let me open my heart more fully.


Hi John

What strikes me from reading your OP is that there is a lot of analysis and complex problem solving going on here. I know from what you have said before that that is how you operate ;) but I am wondering if that is actually the problem here.

The truth is your heart is already open, it just appears not so because it is obscured by the head (your mind).

I understand how you were moved by Krishna Das with his music and his 'open heart' spilling out in the videos but I am wondering if you have missed the very simplistic message which he was giving.


He explained in his interview in New York video about how he got involved in the chanting and how it worked. He was made to do the chanting to the point of 'nails on a blackboard' boredom and that he would observe his mind grabbing onto any thoughts to relieve it.

Eventually the persistant chanting overpowered the mind and he became aware of something far deeper and when that happened, he didn't want to go back to his mind and its thoughts. This is why Neem Karoli Baba made them do the chanting. This was the wisdom of the guru.

His message is simple and powerful and I think anyone watching can see that it is truly spoken from a fully open, available heart and not the head - (see 10.45 to 14.00 in the video below)


We find our true nature by subtraction not addition. We don't need to add extra things in to do to become what we are because what we are is not lacking anything. We just need to remove what is in the way so it can shine through.


Jeanette






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc8dFQWyod0

[Anchor]

Jeanette

Thanks.


The truth is your heart is already open, it just appears not so because it is obscured by the head (your mind).

Well if that isnt food for thought....

Hey wait, noooooooo! No thinking!


I understand how you were moved by Krishna Das with his music and his 'open heart' spilling out in the videos but I am wondering if you have missed the very simplistic message which he was giving.

I may actually not have done justice to exactly how much I was moved. I experienced an earthquake sized Eureka moment. I believe for a moment, my soul was touched/blessed with a new awareness.


We find our true nature by subtraction not addition. We don't need to add extra things in to do to become what we are because what we are is not lacking anything. We just need to remove what is in the way so it can shine through.

You bear a bright light sister.

I agree and disagree. I am not ready to subtract from all that I am, since that which I have now is the enabler of how I want to be of service.

I am ready to identify and remove what is in the way, as I did with those silly, but understandable, and most importantly for me, forgivable, prejudices formed in my early life - with that block removed, I could allow the praise of the creator such as that done by Krishna Das to more fully enter my heart - and I will learn to do my own of course. I will re-listen to Ram Dass - and I bet it all means something new now since the first pass through. Same with much of the other material I have been influenced by - everything has changed. The words are the same, but the meaning that is in the space between the words just changed a bit.

You are right - as are others in this thread, I do not have green ray challenges of the sort I may have implied earlier - that was confusion. I think I am clearer on that now. I've had some time to think this through carefully - and with the extra input with the messages on this thread.

Thank you again.

[Mark]

You have to keep breaking your heart until it opens. ~ Rumi

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=18277&d=1347983477

Most of us in the West have heart-blockages. The bible calls it a hardened heart. I had an Apache Shaman once tell me that I had a wall around me. He was right. I remember building it, brick by brick, during my life.

You will know unequivocably when that wall comes down. When I had a transformatory heart-opening 2 years ago, I was walking around the streets of Washington DC crying at the beauty of a leaf falling, the wonder of humanity, the pain of poverty. It took a couple of weeks to return to some semblance of normalcy. And I can still cry on a dime. If you think you have one, you do. Trust what your inner barometer tells you. Bless, bredren.

[Falcor]

We find our true nature by subtraction not addition. We don't need to add extra things in to do to become what we are because what we are is not lacking anything. We just need to remove what is in the way so it can shine through.

Jeanette

reminds me of an old friend of mine

"It's not the daily increase but daily decrease. Hack away at the unessential" bruce lee

great advice. its definitely hard to surrender, but after we do, we always laugh at our little self. through our surrenders, we realize that we have only gained and there is nothing lost :)

[Nanoo Nanoo]

I think the back end of " praise " infers a toast to ego.

One would be forgiven in thinking that one so great does not desire praise. . .

Hence the reluctance to do so.

I concur,

Blocked heart? , find the event around your earliest memory of said blockage through meditation. When you locate it, openly discover why and let go of the emotion surrounding the event.
Once it is understood, it has clearence to leave, when you give it permission

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[Anchor]

I think the back end of " praise " infers a toast to ego.

What motivates one to give praise? This morning I walked through a park outside Sydney Central on the way into the CBD - there are trees in that park that are just incredible. The sun was out, not to many unhappy looking people, and I was just beaming with joy at it all. Krishna Das malas going on the mp3 player just to top it all off.

How does one express that joy?

It seems wrong to bottle it all up.

Wouldn't a spot of praise and thanksgiving be in order?

If so how is this ego?


Blocked heart? , find the event around your earliest memory of said blockage through meditation. When you locate it, openly discover why and let go of the emotion surrounding the event.
Once it is understood, it has clearence to leave, when you give it permission

Yes you are right. This is what I did, and it worked.

[another bob]

What motivates one to give praise? This morning I walked through a park outside Sydney Central on the way into the CBD - there are trees in that park that are just incredible. The sun was out, not to many unhappy looking people, and I was just beaming with joy at it all. Krishna Das malas going on the mp3 player just to top it all off.

How does one express that joy?

It seems wrong to bottle it all up.

Wouldn't a spot of praise and thanksgiving be in order?

If so how is this ego?


It only becomes a trap when it is proferred or grasped onto in an effort to confirm the separate self-sense. If the motive be pure and spontaneous heart movement, then no problem, in fact, how beautiful to worship the Great One in all Its varied appearances, recognizing all is Self, and Self is All. What a wonder! What's not to praise?


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[Nanoo Nanoo]

ok today the penny dropped

Praise : a defenition based on my experience.

Yesterday i was preparing for a court case hearing today. In my meditation i asked for a just hearing and that justice would be done. Today i went in to court , was the official representative to the alleged, the case was heard within 20 minutes of my arrival , over in 10 minutes and a section 10 incurring no fine given and free to go.

Today on the way home i i remembered asking for help. And i thought in my Appreciation that i should also give thanks and praise for being heard :0) So in my next meditation i will give a sinscere thank you sending back an enregetic charge of praise to above from below.

This is intrinsically tied into the Hermetic Principal in the Kybalion As Above So Below , in also remaining on the higher law by not giving in to lies and deceit. I was very honest in my defense and it was seen as such and justice was served.

Hmm

i hope this helps Anchor : 0 )

Naniu

[Nanoo Nanoo]

I think the back end of " praise " infers a toast to ego.

What motivates one to give praise? This morning I walked through a park outside Sydney Central on the way into the CBD - there are trees in that park that are just incredible. The sun was out, not to many unhappy looking people, and I was just beaming with joy at it all. Krishna Das malas going on the mp3 player just to top it all off.

How does one express that joy?

It seems wrong to bottle it all up.

Wouldn't a spot of praise and thanksgiving be in order?

If so how is this ego?


Blocked heart? , find the event around your earliest memory of said blockage through meditation. When you locate it, openly discover why and let go of the emotion surrounding the event.
Once it is understood, it has clearence to leave, when you give it permission

Yes you are right. This is what I did, and it worked.


Excellent i am glad :0)

Regarding praise , i was referring in particular giving praise to a deity, i found requesting it was perculiar till i understood it today. Not so much praise for the beauty of mother nature.. i whole heartedly give praise to mother nature all day long .

Excellent thread Anchor , once again you have taken the time to open your heart and show a human weakness without reserve. this takes a lot of courage to show your vulnerabilities. It takes great strength to do so .. More than i have at times i must admit .

Naniu