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4evrneo
17th September 2012, 18:16
About 8 months ago I read this article on in5d.com
http://www.in5d.com/so-your-spiritual-awakening-cost-you-some-friends.html
At the time, I understood how this can happen to people but never thought it would happen to me.
In the last 6 months, I have lost connection with dear friends I have known most of my life.
My father too refuses to discuss my beliefs and my awakening.
And then finally this past Friday, the love of my life has left too.
I battled with my ego all weekend, feeling crippled and overwhelmed with the pain of loss and rejection. I went through the crying, the anger, the resentment and finally, sweet surrender.
Initially I thought why are my relationships changing? I came to realize that it is me that has changed and a profound feeling of peace swept over me. Maybe it was my HS telling me it is me that’s changed, I am not sure but I feel enormous gratitude to be awake and to be experiencing something amazing. I am forever transformed and I wouldn’t change anything.
As our spiritual journeys continue, we become more comfortable within our own beliefs and less concerned about how our friends and family view this awakening. This is when the ego becomes separated from the self and fear is dissolved by love.
This is where I am today. I am now flying solo but not alone and I am not fearful, I am embracing it as it unfolds and nothing will keep me from moving forward.
I am finally peeling away the layers of ego and I couldn’t be happier. I am no longer following the herd of society, I am being cultivated by seeking within and finding my own answers and my own truth.
I will hold those that are distant with me with great love and when they do awaken, I will be happily there to welcome them and help guide them.
Much gratitude goes to everyne on this forum, your contributions here have given me courage and wisdom. I am learning to shed layers of self without fear.
Blessings,
Annette
white wizard
17th September 2012, 18:37
I had the same thing happen to me back in 2009-10. The first shedding of friends
happened without me wanting it too and I soon after rebuilt relationships with many
new friends. After that some big things happened in my life and I decided to literally
drop off all my friends and get to know myself better. I threw my cell phone out and
spent an entire year alone with my close family but even distanced myself from them.
After several months my whole perspective on things changed and I grew out of the
fear mentality and into one of self empowerment. I was actually a one point for
several months always in a state of bliss and my psychic abilities came out. I was
told in my dreams after almost a year by myself it was time for me to go back out
and build new relationships with people. I have less friends know but most of my
friends are opened up to new age ideas and this was something I never shared
with friends before. I later figured out after much thought that the whole process
I went through was to break me down from relying on other people and to trust in
myself. I became a new stronger person. I think if many people are going to
change like IN5D describes then they must go through something similar and know
is that time.
goinghome2012
17th September 2012, 18:42
bless you on your journey, the journey within is painful at start. Do you have children? I am in a similar situation and i have children, but i have moved inwards towards the heart and become who I am that i am and love unconditionally. i have decided to stay in my relationship and transform myself and therefore transform my outside world. it is working.
Be love will change external forces. love grows, love contaminates
DNA light and love activation
Cartomancer
17th September 2012, 18:47
It really isn't easy for anyone. This has happened to many of us here to one degree or another. I kind of learned to just not talk about it if it irritates someone but that is really hard. Every month or so this subject comes up here and I suggest you watch the David Icke video "Return to the Wogon Show." In the early days he went on this show when he was in the process of waking up and became a laughing stock. If you watch it in the beginning he looks and acts like what we all go through. When he returns years later he is confident and self assured. You have an outlet here of people who understand so if you're freaking people out with stuff they are not ready for come here to discuss. Even if you don't like Icke check this out. Here's the short version of the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azq40dxzZAs
4evrneo
17th September 2012, 18:50
bless you on your journey, the journey within is painful at start. Do you have children?
I do have two adult children, son 22, and daughter 25, who are slowly awakening also and they are also the center of my attention besides my journey.
The circle of friends are also distant from them and they are learning to deal with it but I do feel bad for them as it is probably harder for them to understand the why's.
I think the more I come to understandings for myself the more they will have access to these lessons through me.
All the best goinghome2012,
Annette
seehas
17th September 2012, 20:13
life on earth is like a giant school and all grades sharing one big schoolyard, no doubt there are some total different perspectives :cool:
but i dont see the different grade as a scoringboard, everyone got different goals and tests to archive that doesnt mean anyone is above or behond anyone else since the biggest fool can be your biggest teacher.
Jackson
17th September 2012, 20:29
hello all....
I too have experienced this over the years since my awakening. My family here has been very supportive....however, they sometimes don't understand it on the level that I do. I have a younger brother that lives near me that understands and is very supportive of me and I of him. I am glad that I have someone to bounce these ideas off of that "get's it" as I do. It can be a very lonely journey if you are totally alone. I also see people around me that are waking up and seeing past the programming that we all have endured. That alone is very heartening.
there is is indeed hope for the planet....
Jackson
Hip Hipnotist
17th September 2012, 20:32
"So, Your Awakening has cost you some friends."
Yes. And I couldn't be happier.
In this day and age, with all the available information -- "With friends ( or family ) like that, who needs enemies?"
GoodETxSG
17th September 2012, 20:35
I hear you,
Family and friends have shared their "Worry" for me. I have tried to explain the big picture to them, what I witnessed and was involved with in both the Military and Financial Establishments such as when I worked at the Federal Reserve Bank. But my reality is a delusion to them. So I row row row my boat, gently down the stream...
Ron Mauer Sr
17th September 2012, 20:53
I've learned that I need to be careful with what I say to others. Most people cannot handle the passion of a truth seeker wanting a close relationship with another to exchange ideas, with someone who can think out-of-the-box, with someone who can balance the rational and intuitive parts of our nature.
When I need some social time it is sometimes enough just to go swing dancing, without the expectations of having an out-of-the-box conversation. Some dancers are willing to take a peek down the rabbit hole without diving into it.
Fred Steeves
17th September 2012, 21:58
I like how Jordan Maxwell puts it Annette. "If someone wants to see a rock concert, they're not going to pay to see a country band. People want what they want, including you and me, and that's that. If we aren't talking about something a person is interested in, they are not going to give a hoot what it is we're saying.
For what it's worth, here's what I've come to do, after much head against brick wall banging.
1) Action speaks louder than words. People will take note when we are living daily what we are learning. Or atleast trying our darnest...
2) Be that person that knows things. A couple of Christmas Holidays ago, the family talk turned to why is Easter always on a different date every year? No one had a clue, so after a couple of moments, I gave them the quick rundown about Passover being on the night of the first full moon, after the spring equinox, and Easter being the first Sunday, after the first full moon, after the spring equinox. People were like: "How do you know this s**t?" (LOL) Of course I insisted they not believe me, but to Google it when they got home and see for themselves.
Eventually you'll gain the reputation of "knowing things". Rather than trying to tell someone something that YOU find important/interesting, wait until THEY make known something that they find important/interesting. SHOWTIME.
3) Make people smile or laugh whenever possible. If someone's having a really bad day, a little ray of sunshine in that day might just be worth more than a month of Sundays of them reading self-help books. And besides, smiling is contageous. http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif SEE?
I'm sorry you lost your man, I almost lost my lady over this stuff.
Fred
sirdipswitch
17th September 2012, 22:11
My freinds all think i'm nuts. I'm so far out of the box, I can't even see it any longer. chuckle chuckle.
Life is good. Life is fun.
The Universe is mgnificent!!!!
Go Astral, and enjoy!!!!
Love, Peace, Humor
sirdipswitch
4evrneo
17th September 2012, 22:15
Thank you Fred,
Yes, you always make me smile and they are contagious !
Makes perfect sense to me, I always love hearing your perspectives, always light and refreshing... :cheers:
Blessings,
Annette
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Go Astral, and enjoy!!!!
Im working on it !
I hope I am nuts, dont want to be normal he he !
Blessings,
Annette
WhiteFeather
17th September 2012, 22:17
About 8 months ago I read this article on in5d.com
http://www.in5d.com/so-your-spiritual-awakening-cost-you-some-friends.html
At the time, I understood how this can happen to people but never thought it would happen to me.
In the last 6 months, I have lost connection with dear friends I have known most of my life.
My father too refuses to discuss my beliefs and my awakening.
And then finally this past Friday, the love of my life has left too.
I battled with my ego all weekend, feeling crippled and overwhelmed with the pain of loss and rejection. I went through the crying, the anger, the resentment and finally, sweet surrender.
Initially I thought why are my relationships changing? I came to realize that it is me that has changed and a profound feeling of peace swept over me. Maybe it was my HS telling me it is me that’s changed, I am not sure but I feel enormous gratitude to be awake and to be experiencing something amazing. I am forever transformed and I wouldn’t change anything.
As our spiritual journeys continue, we become more comfortable within our own beliefs and less concerned about how our friends and family view this awakening. This is when the ego becomes separated from the self and fear is dissolved by love.
This is where I am today. I am now flying solo but not alone and I am not fearful, I am embracing it as it unfolds and nothing will keep me from moving forward.
I am finally peeling away the layers of ego and I couldn’t be happier. I am no longer following the herd of society, I am being cultivated by seeking within and finding my own answers and my own truth.
I will hold those that are distant with me with great love and when they do awaken, I will be happily there to welcome them and help guide them.
Much gratitude goes to everyne on this forum, your contributions here have given me courage and wisdom. I am learning to shed layers of self without fear.
Blessings,
Annette
You are not alone. Welcome to my pain or should i say gain. Hold your ground we are a part of this awakening consciousness. Thats why we are here, to wake others.
Arpheus
17th September 2012, 22:30
I never had any real friends to begin with being INFJ wich is kind of understandable,so now i am happy loner,i have a good bunch of co-workers that are really nice people,i guess i dont need much heh,oh and i gained an amazing friend that came into my life in a most unexpecting way,she is amazing ad helped me in a lot of ways i cant even begin to tell you,i would like to have a ew more real good friends,but hey i dont stress about it,it is what is and i am just fine with it,life is good no matter what so no worries here!!
Camilo
17th September 2012, 22:54
Hi Annette,I guess many of us have gone through the same experience. At first it may be painful, but soon enough you realize it was unavoidable and it was meant to happen sooner or later. In no time you'll find like minded friends, and your new sense of self and reality will make you realize everything is alright. Once you cross that barrier there is no way back, and the exploration of your true nature will take you to the most wonderful journey full of synchronicities. Welcome!
Wind
17th September 2012, 23:03
I'll rather choose to be alone than if the option is that I have to pretend someone else that I am not to others. I am who I am and I don't have no reason to be anything else. It just doesn't work for me and these days it even't doesn't bother me anymore. I love being alone most of time, because usually other people's energies drain my energy. They need to be on the same frequency with me. I reload my energy while I'm alone. I receive love from many places, my family, nature and animals.
If you have people around you who truly care about you and accept you as you are then be thankful, because it is a blessing.
therinkydinktink
17th September 2012, 23:06
I think you should be commended as to the strength of your beliefs and that you are willing to share them. Myself I'm quite introverted in some ways and if people ask me I would prefer to direct them to a certain book/video or whatever rather than 'preach' (if that's the right term) and then discuss it with them when and if they've seen the light (some peoples fuse boxes seem broken tho' :rolleyes:). Don't be hard on yourself you've shown great strength and determination and deserve a great big pat on the back, good for you.
Light and peace, Matt (trdt)
Earth Angel
17th September 2012, 23:23
yes lots of us have been there.......there is the frustration of not talking about things you want to talk about because they can actually get very mad even when discussing things that are actually quite empowering and positive.....and then there are the times where you just want your 5 hours back (that you spent in a social situation talking about the usual rubbish people like to talk about) and then sometimes you meet someone who gets it and the joy you both feel in that discovery is fantastic!
Mandala
18th September 2012, 00:12
When I first woke up, I wanted to share, not preach or force my beliefs on others. It didn't matter how delicately I tried to do this, if they were not ready to hear it, it didn't work. Matter of fact, I like some of you, was considered nutso by some friends and family members. Now, I don't even try, I live what I believe. I let them come to me and ask questions. Many have come around. They are on their own journey. We can't show them the way, they must find it themselves.
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Ps. Quite a few friends have fallen by the wayside, but it's ok.
Erich
18th September 2012, 00:23
About 8 months ago I read this article on in5d.com
http://www.in5d.com/so-your-spiritual-awakening-cost-you-some-friends.html
At the time, I understood how this can happen to people but never thought it would happen to me.
In the last 6 months, I have lost connection with dear friends I have known most of my life.
My father too refuses to discuss my beliefs and my awakening.
And then finally this past Friday, the love of my life has left too.
I battled with my ego all weekend, feeling crippled and overwhelmed with the pain of loss and rejection. I went through the crying, the anger, the resentment and finally, sweet surrender.
Initially I thought why are my relationships changing? I came to realize that it is me that has changed and a profound feeling of peace swept over me. Maybe it was my HS telling me it is me that’s changed, I am not sure but I feel enormous gratitude to be awake and to be experiencing something amazing. I am forever transformed and I wouldn’t change anything.
As our spiritual journeys continue, we become more comfortable within our own beliefs and less concerned about how our friends and family view this awakening. This is when the ego becomes separated from the self and fear is dissolved by love.
This is where I am today. I am now flying solo but not alone and I am not fearful, I am embracing it as it unfolds and nothing will keep me from moving forward.
I am finally peeling away the layers of ego and I couldn’t be happier. I am no longer following the herd of society, I am being cultivated by seeking within and finding my own answers and my own truth.
I will hold those that are distant with me with great love and when they do awaken, I will be happily there to welcome them and help guide them.
Much gratitude goes to everyne on this forum, your contributions here have given me courage and wisdom. I am learning to shed layers of self without fear.
Blessings,
Annette
You're not alone. My interests and attempts to pass on information have isolated me. I always thought I was light-handed in what I discussed (sticking with, for example, the economy instead of life on other planets, etc...). C'est la vie.
Anchor
18th September 2012, 00:40
As the harmonics established between the different but similar vibratory rates of you and your former friends changed - to the extent that you eventually parted ways, so shall it establish among new friends - and even that cycle will move on - sometimes lasting more than a lifetime, sometimes substantially less.
There are no mistakes - just surprises.
:)
jackovesk
18th September 2012, 00:44
So, Your Awakening has cost you some friends
I have'nt lost 1 friend (not 1) in the Real-Word because of the 'Truth'...:nono:
But unfortunately...
I have lost many friends here at Avalon because of the 'Truth'...:yes4:
How 'Ironic' is that...:faint:
Anchor
18th September 2012, 00:48
So, Your Awakening has cost you some friends
I have'nt lost 1 friend (not 1) in the Real-Word because of the 'Truth'...:nono:
But unfortunately...
I have lost many friends here at Avalon because of the 'Truth'...:yes4:
How 'Ironic' is that...:faint:
You may have not lost as many as you think. Many including myself respect the stand you take and the power with which you shout it from the rooftops.
My resonance comment to 4evrneo applies to us all.
John..
Poly Hedra
18th September 2012, 00:57
I was spending a lot of time alone, I lived alone and I loved it. My friends would call over in the evening and I would get very annoyed because they were taking me away from my time learning about the alternative view of life. When my friend would call the TV would go on. Once my best friend said to me.. "What are you doing/watching every night? What dont you let us in on your secret world?" So for the next few days I put on the kind of stuff I wanted to learn about, after these videos, documentarys and lectures, nothing more was said about my secret research. I always felt like I shouldn't say anything for fear of ridicule. I think times are definitely a changin' . Now I feel like more people are open. I can talk to my boyfriend without feeling like I'm going to be ridiculed but at the same time he probably thinks I'm away with the faeries. :) ie a bit tapped :wizard:
bluestflame
18th September 2012, 01:00
i guess they'll know who to turn to for advice and insight when the reality of things is no longer avoidable
i suspect this is why some awaken ahead of the wave
Ron Mauer Sr
18th September 2012, 01:14
Looking at my experience with friends as I've discovered new ideas about how things are structured, I think of reasons why some have drifted away.
I wanted to share (preach?) my "truth" with friends because I thought my new found "truth" would improve my life and/or theirs.
I wanted others to let go of their emotional guidance system (that which feels good to them) and pay attention to mine.
Well, things do not work that way. I feel that we are all eternal beings having a human experience, and the best guidance we have is our own gut feeling. Sometimes that gut feeling separates us from others, sometimes it brings us together.
Selene
18th September 2012, 01:22
Yeah, it’s a shocker when it happens, 4evrneo. But it’s actually very good news.
I am not kidding.
It means that whatever you’ve thought was changing and growing about yourself in your imagination is actually happening in a way that is becoming apparent at a physical level: it is now tangible in your aura, in your thoughts, in your general energy field. You are indeed growing spiritually and emotionally. Your (for lack of a better term here) vibrational speed has increased, and it no longer meshes easily with that of your former companions, since we naturally tend to seek an environment that is compatible with our own energies. We can “outgrow” various energy fields and our former emotional neighborhood. We naturally move on, as we did when we graduated from school to our first jobs or whatever.
There is that recognition of the ‘disconnect’ from what you formerly were, and the life you had. It seems to go into a fog, somehow. You can still see them, and love them very much. But the importance fades. And your new life glows so brightly…. That’s as it is meant to be. Run toward, not away from.
They haven’t left you; you’ve left them, in love and with understanding but now your own growth has other needs. And now you’ll find others – many others – who exist in harmony with your new frequency and welcome you. That’s one of the reasons we gather here at Avalon: we understand each other in a way that goes far beyond mere posts on a thread. We are part of another frequency, another expression of life. It is real, and wonderful.
It is a journey we all make – and continue forever forward. Just give yourself time to adapt, and be at peace with your old friends, as well as those new companions whom you will meet along the way. You are fine.
You are not losing your family; you are gaining more members to it!
Cheers,
Selene
white wizard
18th September 2012, 01:25
The tendency to be alone is a characteristic of an old soul. Detachment from reality
is another trait of one. I notice that a lot of people on this thread are showing
some of these characteristics. I see a lot of star seeds and and old souls here lol.
Maybe this well help ? hope so.
I think its interesting that I am finding out a lot of old souls are also what you would call
wanderers or star seeds.
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?c=Wanderers&sc=1&ss=1
http://www.michaelteachings.com/old_soul.html
In their social lives, Old souls are often loners. They go their own way, caring little for societal norms. They are a rare breed, comprising about eleven percent of the population. On the fringes of society, they obey the rules of their culture only as required to get by without causing trouble. They have very little attachment to encounters of a casual nature, such as coworkers and neighbors. Even their sense of connection to blood relatives is not very strong. They generally shun heavy entanglements with other people. When they do get involved, it is because there is a strong spiritual bond. By this is meant that either there is a karmic attachment (past-life association), or what Michael calls an "agreement" — a contract made between lifetimes to conduct a relationship. A specific case mentioned by Michael is that Old souls seek to be united with the other fragments of their Entity. When Old souls do seek companionship, they often do so in metaphysical groups — astrology and tarot classes, psychic endeavors, and so on. Here they will be most likely to meet those with whom they have spiritual connections. They seek out the few others who are like themselves, and form networks of people with similar interests. This is not usually for the purpose of business advancements like Young souls, or for psychological comfort like Mature souls, but just to share being with other Old souls. When Old souls "party", they usually sit around and just talk. In dating situations, they do not need to go anywhere (like to a movie) or do anything (like play games) as a means to developing social intimacy. If the basis for psychological intimacy is not quickly apparent to the Old soul, he will not put himself through much trouble to develop it. It is difficult for Old souls to weld unions with people that they have not been together with in numerous past lifetimes.
Old souls are individualistic — they believe that people should basically do whatever they want to
here is a chart that might give some better clarity
http://www.michaelteachings.com/soul_age_levels.htm
Occam's Razor
18th September 2012, 01:34
Still friends....Just no longer classmates...
For some reason they have to take the same grade over.......Again...
Anchor
18th September 2012, 02:24
Looking at my experience with friends as I've discovered new ideas about how things are structured, I think of reasons why some have drifted away.
I wanted to share (preach?) my "truth" with friends because I thought my new found "truth" would improve my life and/or theirs.
I wanted others to let go of their emotional guidance system (that which feels good to them) and pay attention to mine.
Well, things do not work that way. I feel that we are all eternal beings having a human experience, and the best guidance we have is our own gut feeling.
Did you not act in a manner that had a tendency to violate their freewill choices?
Certainly I have done this and I think its probable that we all do that I think and then eventually learn to avoid doing it, because the karma that adheres as a consequence becomes unwanted extra baggage.
ghostrider
18th September 2012, 03:25
Had tons of friends till I started to pray , and want to be a better person , and be spiritual, and re-educate myself, they all thought I went crazy and they ran for the hills. strangely enough my life got a whole lot better when I made a conserted effort to love my fellow humans, and follow the spirit. Straight is the gate and narrow is the way and few there be that find it.
Sidney
18th September 2012, 04:17
Yes, you are not alone. It is an interesting twist on this journey when you understand what the term "evolve" really means. This evolution of our spirit and conciousness is just too much for our friends and family to grasp. They may move on, but eventually they will experience their own evolution, perhaps in the next life or after that. Its all about the journey, not the destination. You never know what curves in the path lie ahead until you get to it, then you take in the scenery and head for the next curve.
Sometimes our friends leave, and sometimes we have to leave them behind. It is very hard to sustain the charade, once you have been down the rabbit hole.
apokalypse
18th September 2012, 05:55
right now i'm truly awaken just can't take anything from current system, i feel isolation and a loner from surroundings. every day i read-hear-see people taking what's happening in the systems from economics-religions or the Stuff..ect just make me sick. i'm trying to tell my parents and people but they just can't see it but accept this system. it seems they just don't have this awakening which i have and they still stuck in this 3d world. my whole family will think i'm crazy and too much internet if i'm continue talking about this the true nature of our realities...
last week while i'm on the train i have this moment like in They Live movies, i see people like a Robot especially when 1/3 of people on the train playing with their smart phone...as i look around and really see they are a Robot in which we really are. This lady stared at me thought i'm a wierdo the way i look...
hearing from guys like santos banacci-Alex Collier i can really feel how they feel and i could spent all day talking to them. it seems there's 2 world for me, one is Awakening and other worldis where the sheep and people who still asleep are...
lookbeyond
18th September 2012, 06:44
I can relate to all of the above- i have nothing to talk to the other mums at the back gate about- my son made me laugh; he heard one of the mothers at school talking excitedly about getting her nails done with" all her girlfriends " he thought it was funny- no such talk in this house!
lookbeyond
Anchor
18th September 2012, 07:22
hearing from guys like santos banacci-Alex Collier i can really feel how they feel and i could spent all day talking to them. it seems there's 2 world for me, one is Awakening and other worldis where the sheep and people who still asleep are...
It is true. You are walking in two worlds.
I don't know if you fully agree with the idea that this is something you got to decide, but I think it is.
So now your job is to find ways of coping.
Lean on this forum.
Many people on this forum have been through this and managed to achieve some balance - even though our lives remain quite challenging at times.
There are lots of things you can do.
Chief among them is letting go of the worry and having a bit of faith in the fact that you, like most awakening and free thinking people are very much made of the right stuff, stronger than we know, and for whom a lot more help is available than we often remember to ask for.
Being alone, has its limits. We are in this together.
korgh
18th September 2012, 08:00
Hi Annette,
The same here, but they think that i'm bit "out of this world". You are not alone.
Is very hard for them to understand what's really going on. Too much info to share and some times, i think that there is a "barrier" around. Is like "rowing against the tide".
They can´t see or feel these changes.
I've learned to don't push too much and to observe the right moment to help them to see the big picture.
You know, we have access to massive knowledge, the capacity to understand and the most important: we have support in our journey here, in this forum.
You need to speak to them and try to awake them slowly. If you don't, you will expose yourself and will be hurt. Remember: Those who make the difference are the most misunderstood.
One step at a time and you will go far.
Cheers
bluestflame
18th September 2012, 08:24
but the worst bit is the sleepers try to get you to go back to sleep , i rekon that's where the the popularity of zombie movies comes from , they ARE real , just not in the physical form portrayed , they wander round in a daze, and if you get "bitten" you turn into one of them
Dawn
18th September 2012, 09:44
I have been through this a number of times....
Every time I change dramatically in my frequency and awareness, the people I've been hanging around with simply fall away.
The first time it happened I was 'alone' in who I could 'pal around with' for many years, though I still was a member of my core family.
2 years ago, not only most of my 'friends', but also my family fell out of my life.
https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJ2JljVoe0CgCgdoZn8HpQMUMipbciQLO7t4yiIs7UHIU5grJBhg
Now, after coming back from a major spiritual healing and expansion from my trip to Peru, this is happening again. I find that I feel disconnected from my current home and am looking to move. My wonderful partner is remaining in my life (in fact he feels like 'another part of me' and almost makes me believe in 'twin flames'). However I have found it necessary to separate from my relationship with my sisters. When my friends call me, I feel totally disconnected from them in all ways, however I am polite and warm to them.
The new thing that I am stepping up to the plate on is... letting go of the 'good girl' program. This means that I am allowing myself to be exactly what I am in the moment, even if I am grumpy or bitchy. This is similar to some of the actors we love to watch such as Jack Nicholson, or Clint Eastwood. The reason they are so refreshing, in the roles they play, is that they do not hide behind a 'polished and pretty' facade. I am not trying to be 'sweet and loving' ... but am allowing myself just to be... what ever I am in the moment. In some ways, this is the most challenging move into liberation that I've ever made. Yet I have freed myself from so many mental patterns that I don't have much of an internal parent left to 'supervise' supervise. I have heard about this place from others who have gone before me. It is pretty surprising to my conditioned 'ego mind' when I behave in ways I was taught are not 'good' as a girl.
As the 'sweet loving' conditioned personality is falling away my friends and family are understandably confused. They aren't sure who I am anymore. They will likely all fall away since I do not resonate with them now. Time will tell. I am just in allowance of what ever happens for now.
There is a learning curve to this. I've learned that there is nothing I can do to hold onto things the way they were... I can only keep moving and keep flowing into my next step in awareness and liberation.
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Buck
18th September 2012, 09:55
Annette, forgive this rather long post, but it is in response to your beautiful and courageous post. Thank you-
When I was 6 years old I was convinced that I was an alien that had arrived here and was placed with humans. My parents were charged with looking after me, and they were very kind, but they clearly did not speak my language. They did not have the same emotional range, they could not sense or see the things I did. I recall going to church as a family (my parents were very involved in their church community), and physically recoiling when some of my parents friends would greet us, leaning down for a closer look at me. Why could my parents not sense/ smell the danger? That was one of the many times I would sense the lurking, darker force. It was so palpable, my heart would race, I would literally break out in a cold sweat. I made things much worse for myself when I initially made an effort to communicate with my parents and share some of my feelings. I was so lonely. And they seemed so kind, and in their own way, kind of nervous and ill at ease. I could feel that they were not all that comfortable being parents, so I remember feeling some regard for how hard it was for them too.
But, unfortunately, my effort to connect ended in something more like an episode out of the twighlight zone (the old 60s version for me) as the result was they revealed no affinity for me on the level I yearned to connect. And as a matter of fact, their behavior was closer to the darker aspect of things sometimes, not in any overt way, but more the darkness of ignorance and stasis. Long way of saying to you Annette, I started life in a place of isolation, whether self imposed from pshychological and or emotional trauma, or from a mild form of brain/ behavioral disorder, whatever was the root cause, the day to day experience for me was I had a really hard time connecting with anyone, ever.
And when I finally did run across a kindred soul (high school age was about the first time I recall), I was so starved for contact that I would overwhelm even the most gentle souls and send them fleeing in terror of my manic neediness and weird tendency to talk and muse over pretty much the same stuff we all talk about here. In 3rd grade, my teacher actually took time out from her work to come to parents house and talk with them in person (imagine that today) about me. She brought one of my class assignments to help illustrate her concern regarding my state of mind. As I recall I think the assignment was to make a picture of your favorite activity. I had done a very elaborate rendering of a casket, with a bouquet of flowers on top. It was in color, and I remember being proud of the flowers (tulips) and the wood grain - and the dimensional quality of my drawing, which by the way is no mean feat for a third grader.
Above the drawing of the open casket, In very ornate India Ink lettering, I had written in an appropriately morbid gothic typeface "Death is the Greatest Kick of ALL, that's why they save it for LAST"
My poor parents.
I suppose my point is three-fold Annette; one is that I believe we arrive here not by accident, but rather by the most profoundly complex design in which we ourselves have participated in creating. We lose the awareness of that entire aspect of existence upon entry into this atmosphere, this vibratory level. But nevertheless, our parents, our friends, all of what Fred was referencing and more is part of the continuum that we ourselves, or at least our more expanded selves, are very much a part of that original compact. But that is something so profoundly simple, and yet something so hard to comprehend, when you feel what you feel, and you think you know what you know. So while as a young child, that feeling of separation and "alien- nation" :) was so convincing an experience for me, that I believed it was a truth I could build on, that I could reference. It was not until many years later that I realized perhaps there was a possible distinction to be made between what I felt, and what was real, and that the key to that was the way of the mystic that we all share here- the journey to begin to "know thyself".
The second part of the know thyself journey thing is what I think this forum is actively engaged in currently. This is the process of stepping into the liquid (cribbed from surfer lingo- I just love that saying) of our existence, and our potential from the perspective of a seeker. When we humans do this, the universe responds in kind to the invitation with an exponential quickening. Faster than our own little human ego based reality matrix can comprehend, before I can even type the words, our spirit is racing ahead of us- thousands of light years in a blink, out on that open field of vast potential. And being that the field of our potential IS vast beyond human comprehension, and being that this happens ANY and every time there is the slightest glimmer of awareness or evolved awakening within us humans, - it is inevitable that things will manifest in this realm that are, well, odd. Unexplainable coincidences of fate, mysterious and inexplicable spontaneous healing, time warping events, feats of extraordinary perception, it's all a matter of course when you are activating a multi- dimensional capacity to manifest. Is it any wonder, really that the PTB would be crawling all over us like a cheap suit? When two or three are gathered....
The third aspect is that of realizing that the implications of 1 and 2 are altering everything that we previously took for granted. EVERYTHING. As in my example about my parents. I am grateful they have lived long enough, and I have travelled far enough, that I am back in a place of loving regard for both of them being in my life. They did and continue to do, the very best they can. Just like all of us humans. And while I may actually be an alien, so too are all of us. And that would include my parents.
And so, as I learn and experience more and more of our potential in this 'light form', I can see that all that we state as a given, everything said here about inevitable disasters, or people not understanding, that you have to lose your friends in order to grow, that the world cannot take one more stressful thing, that being evolved means being solitary, that the Dracos will suck out our brains as we sleep- all of this is up for grabs. In the reality of epic potential that I am seeing, we can do ANYTHING we want. ANYTHING when our intention is in loving communion with source.
We have a body that is replicating itself on a cellullar level in transactions that occur a million times a second, and we re-map, re-wire, and re-route our circuitry every few hours. We invented every technological advancement from targeting lasers to quantum computing, as a matter of fact it is already part of our internal 'bundled software'. Every seven days our bodies are essentially completely re-cloned by our own internal process. And that is just our backup drive, that is a process that is relegated to the auto mode of our potential. We are here for something extra-ordinary, I agree about that. And shedding the skin is a great, cathartic process, and it is good to go through it and understand it on all levels. But it is not actually necessary. There are many ways to evolve. There are even ways that all of your friends can come too, or at least a great majority can.
So perhaps when you think of your friends who are scared of you, rejecting you, reacting to your changes, or concerned about you, etc think of that beautiful saying that the Sufis use to refer to one another- their fellow seekers on the way home; "Goodbye, for now my friend. In my absence, always, always, think of me - as loving you." And consider that as you enter a situation, ANY situation, you have the potential to affect, literally, the event you are so convinced you are experiencing. Nothing is excluded, NOTHING.
As above, so below.
Go to sleep imagining your friends surprising you with their openness, and their own yearning to be free. Wake up open, amazed before your eyes open, you are SO excited to be here. After all, it was your bright idea in the first place :)
Limor Wolf
18th September 2012, 12:57
I must say this thread was such a pleasure to read. so many wise words, so many wise souls.. Annette, you are not alone, this 'shedding' of people from our lives comes to be the 'natural process' for these times, like a snake shedding its skin. They will all come, they will all join in their own time.. but for now, the head gets the first view and then comes the tail, but we are all basically a part of the same body.
Buck, thank you for your beautifull post above!
Bill Ryan
18th September 2012, 13:59
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Hi, Annette:
Blessings to you for your courageous thread, your stand for the truth, and for everything you contribute to the forum -- and, I presume, to everyone else you know.
The problem is fear. I often get messages from people who ask: "How do I deal with my partner's denial?" They often report that their partner becomes aggressive when certain topics are mentioned.
I always reply that they're afraid. They don't want this stuff to be true. And everyone reading this will understand that. The person writing to me to ask that question has gradually become a threat to the loved ones they're closest to.
The solution is to ease off, don't get into arguments, don't try to convince them of anything, allow them to have their reality. As Dr Bill Deagle often says (and he's right!) -- at some point, maybe not even too far away, these people who've laughed at you, got mad at you, or rejected you will return to you asking for information, support, clarity, or guidance.
All you can do is plant the seeds. You cannot force them to grow. Everyone's on their own journey. This can be one of the toughest things to come to terms with when dealing with people you really care for. You have to let them go. Then, in time, some of them will come back.
melpizza
18th September 2012, 15:11
Unfortunately friends are lost and its not a good feeling. But where they really stick by you friends anyway, obviously not. Your reality is now not their reality. Birds of a feather.
4evrneo
18th September 2012, 18:44
Buck,
Thank you for this wonderful response. I have really grown from this experience and am already excited for the journey to unfold.
Your words have touched me !
Blessings,
Annette
GloriousPoetry
18th September 2012, 18:51
Annette,
Don't focused on the fact that your friends and family don't understand you. Instead focus on your soul's journey and purpose in this world. I believe we live and share this world with different types of souls all on various levels of spiritual evolution. Embrace the spiritual growth and transformation you are experiencing while accepting others for where they are rather than expecting them to understand your shift in consciousness. I went through the same feelings a few years ago, I felt so much hurt because my family didn't understand me, but now I accept them and love them anyway. Not all of humanity is awakening at the same time......nevertheless accepting and loving humanity regardless is a tough thing to do! The opposite of fear is love, the two can't exist in the same energy field.
GLORIA
Buck
18th September 2012, 21:08
Buck,
Thank you for this wonderful response. I have really grown from this experience and am already excited for the journey to unfold.
Your words have touched me !
Blessings,
Annette
I am honored, Annette. I might add that your post is an example of the one "technique" :) that has the greatest potential to affect profound change in your day to day life;
You spoke from the heart.
When you speak from that place, you are heard, loud and clear.
Don't worry so much if your words are coming out just right. The language of the heart transcends language, and distance, even time.
Just like we can, in our fullest expression.
From the heart , in loving gratitude - I salute your courage !
XBuck
Fred Steeves
18th September 2012, 21:25
I am honored, Annette. I might add that your post is an example of the one "technique" :) that has the greatest potential to affect profound change in your day to day life;
You spoke from the heart.
When you speak from that place, you are heard, loud and clear.
Don't worry so much if your words are coming out just right. The language of the heart transcends language, and distance, even time.
Nicely put Buck. We're fortunate enough to bear witness to this brave tigress shaking off her shackles. Step back folks...
Thank you for sharing this "moment" Annette, you're surely amongst friends here! http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif
Fred
P.S. This song fits the occasion:
RHBikURKkUM
4evrneo
18th September 2012, 23:15
I am honored, Annette. I might add that your post is an example of the one "technique" :) that has the greatest potential to affect profound change in your day to day life;
You spoke from the heart.
When you speak from that place, you are heard, loud and clear.
Don't worry so much if your words are coming out just right. The language of the heart transcends language, and distance, even time.
Nicely put Buck. We're fortunate enough to bear witness to this brave tigress shaking off her shackles. Step back folks...
Thank you for sharing this "moment" Annette, you're surely amongst friends here! http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif
Fred
P.S. This song fits the occasion:
RAWWRRR !!
Thanks so much guys !
(Big smiles)
Annette
lightseeker
19th September 2012, 00:23
Annette, thanks for sharing your story and thanks to everyone else as well. I began my awakening many years ago, then lost my track- a busy life happened and I had little time to explore within. I retired in 2008 at 59 yrs of age after 35 years in the Canadian Federal Gov't in Ottawa. My partner convinced me to buy a computer and i discovered the internet wow!. My search led me to many sites; i won't go into details. I was always someone who practiced meditation through out my life. But now retired it became a daily practice 2 or 3 times a day, coupled with what I began to read on ProjectCamelot, Divinecosmos and so many other wonderful sights. This stimulated me to no end. I was lucky I have a brother who shares my views and my eldest son both of whom live in British Columbia. My brother has been awake for many years, we would have wonderful long conversations when he lived here in Ottawa, and always maintained contact through e-mail and phone now that he lives in Vancouver. My eldest son became awake when he was 17, he is now 31 and lives in Nelson. I have been fortunate with some of my family members, not so with others. I too have shed many friends over the last few years. In most cases it was my choice. The changes that were taking place in my life; becoming more awake and aware did not resonate with many of my previous friends and acquaintances. I saw not point in maintaining the relationships and moved on. I know who I am and feel very empowered. I share my views when the opportunity presents itself. And do not worry if people think i am crazy. Even when walking my dog in the park close to my condo, I continually meet new people who have become friends and were surprisingly open and far more aware than i would have thought. One fellow, I met who immigrated with his wife and child from South Africa, was one of those friends I met in the park. This fellow was so awake. Every time we would meet we were both excited because both of us had new things to share with each other. Don't ever loose heart, there are many people who are more awake than you think, they just don't want to bring certain subjects up for fear or rejection or people thinking of them as crazy. I have heard this from a few people i have encountered some were friends and some where strangers. I am an extrovert by nature and will talk to anyone walking buy on the street. I was amazed when certain topics came up which I innitiated, they often responded in agreement with what I was discussing, only they were afraid to raise such subjects out of fear and ridicule. The point is my dear friends, that there are many people out there waking up, we may not all be at the same level of understanding but many are more than willing to share and are happy to do so if we are brave enough to start the conversation. New peolpe will always come into our lives that we will resonate with . This is not by chance or coincidence . Have fun on your journeys, I know I am having a ball. Love to all of you
mosquito
19th September 2012, 02:13
Bless you Annette.
I know, I'm sure we all know, that heart wrenching loss only too well, and no words can ever come close to providing comfort.
But, as so many others have said, these things happen for a reason, and your life is changing in the way it needs to, even if you can't see the big picture right now.
Friends ? What are they ? I have many many acquaintances, some more lasting than others, but I've long been walking this path alone, BUT NOT LONELY !!! Everything is transient, some people are in our lives for years, some for months, and some only for days or even hours. The quality of the relationship isn't dependent on the length of time we are with them, but on the connection we feel, the heartfelt, deep connection.
I think that by page 3 of this thread you know you are not alone, and not unloved. ;)
Black Panther
19th September 2012, 18:04
right now i'm truly awaken just can't take anything from current system, i feel isolation and a loner from surroundings. every day i read-hear-see people taking what's happening in the systems from economics-religions or the Stuff..ect just make me sick. i'm trying to tell my parents and people but they just can't see it but accept this system. it seems they just don't have this awakening which i have and they still stuck in this 3d world. my whole family will think i'm crazy and too much internet if i'm continue talking about this the true nature of our realities...
last week while i'm on the train i have this moment like in They Live movies, i see people like a Robot especially when 1/3 of people on the train playing with their smart phone...as i look around and really see they are a Robot in which we really are. This lady stared at me thought i'm a wierdo the way i look...
hearing from guys like santos banacci-Alex Collier i can really feel how they feel and i could spent all day talking to them. it seems there's 2 world for me, one is Awakening and other worldis where the sheep and people who still asleep are...
For some time I have a feeling I'm living in 2 worlds too. I am experiencing exactly the same things as you describe. I know I have to accept others are stuck in 3D and can't see / understand the things I see / understand and still I have to smile and be happy. But it's very difficult for me to see so many people getting cancer and babies getting their vaccinations and everybody is watching tv and last week everybody voted for our new government and they still believe they will solve all our problems :rolleyes:. And yesterday our 'Queen' Beatrix was having her Queen's speech again:
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And yes, my family and friends don't seem to get it. So I do feel lonely. I can't live one single day without thinking of the real world we live in and how we get out of the mess. And everybody is running the threadmill without having a clue about what's really happening in the world. I know feeling lonely is just a trick of the mind, because we can only physically be alone. But it feels very real for being an illusion. So I'm looking for ways to change things in my life, because since the moment I woke up a lot of things don't resonate with me anymore. But first I have to accept things as they are right now and look for clues to guide me on my new path and so I will meet new friends and hopefully I will remember what I came to do here this lifetime. Being in the transition feels like I'm stuck a lot of times, but I've been told my guides say I'm working hard and I just have to be patient.
Seeing all those children hypnotised looking at their phones, even while riding on their bikes on their way to school I want to tell everybody we're on the wrong path, but as I said before I have to be patient and things will work out fine in the end.
September 29 I will go to a presentation of Marcel Messing with the subject: APOCALYPSE. Apocalypse or destruction ? Nice synchronisation with your Avatar name ;). Hope to meet some like minded people over there and maybe there will be a chance to speak with Marcel himself this time.
Thanks for starting this thread, Annette! Always nice to share thoughts and feelings about our experiences
the times we live in and / or our own awakenings.
Arrowwind
19th September 2012, 18:26
Initially I thought why are my relationships changing? I came to realize that it is me that has changed and a profound feeling of peace swept over me. Maybe it was my HS telling me it is me that’s changed, I am not sure but I feel enormous gratitude to be awake and to be experiencing something amazing. I am forever transformed and I wouldn’t change anything.
Annette, what you are going through many many people on the path to awakening go through. I actually went through this on several occassions with different people over the course of years..It is inevitble and it is a blessing in disguise, the anguish that can accompany such change is only temporary. You may also end up surprised, that when things are settled within you those you thought you lost may circle around again in time for your bonds may be other than what you think. Time does heal all wounds and time is a great revealer and as you move through your experience you will understand even more. One of the biggest things I had to come to realize is that some will never awaken and may never open to who I am, but that does not keep me from opening to who they are... and when you can do this without judgement all of a sudden there is love even when the outer expectations seems light years a part, suddenly illusions of who we think we or them are no longer hold value.
Lone Bean
19th September 2012, 19:05
n their social lives, Old souls are often loners. They go their own way, caring little for societal norms. They are a rare breed, comprising about eleven percent of the population. On the fringes of society, they obey the rules of their culture only as required to get by without causing trouble. They have very little attachment to encounters of a casual nature, such as coworkers and neighbors. Even their sense of connection to blood relatives is not very strong. They generally shun heavy entanglements with other people. When they do get involved, it is because there is a strong spiritual bond. By this is meant that either there is a karmic attachment (past-life association), or what Michael calls an "agreement" — a contract made between lifetimes to conduct a relationship. A specific case mentioned by Michael is that Old souls seek to be united with the other fragments of their Entity. When Old souls do seek companionship, they often do so in metaphysical groups — astrology and tarot classes, psychic endeavors, and so on. Here they will be most likely to meet those with whom they have spiritual connections. They seek out the few others who are like themselves, and form networks of people with similar interests. This is not usually for the purpose of business advancements like Young souls, or for psychological comfort like Mature souls, but just to share being with other Old souls. When Old souls "party", they usually sit around and just talk. In dating situations, they do not need to go anywhere (like to a movie) or do anything (like play games) as a means to developing social intimacy. If the basis for psychological intimacy is not quickly apparent to the Old soul, he will not put himself through much trouble to develop it. It is difficult for Old souls to weld unions with people that they have not been together with in numerous past lifetimes.
Old souls are individualistic — they believe that people should basically do whatever they want to
That's why I call myself, "lone bean". I'm all alone on my journey as far as having someone to talk with face to face about it. There is absolutely no one in my physical world with whom I can discuss my thoughts on the level I wish to discuss them. If I even show the slightest inclination of speaking what's on my mind I get shut down very quickly. I believe that was why I was led to this forum. And it's so very interesting the serendipitous events that have been happening lately. I heard for the first time the above words I have have quoted, and when I heard them I dropped my head down on my desk because they described my situation so literally. I at least now know better who I am, and why I am the way I am.
4evrneo
19th September 2012, 19:41
I want to say a big Thank you to you ALL ! for all of your compassion and uplifting words, I am watching an amazing unfoldment of HUGE lessons in my life that just cant be measured. I see that everything since my awakening has unfolded exactly as it should. Just like being led here to PA at a time when I would need others, wisdom and guidance.
All is perfection.
Blessings,
Annette
apokalypse
27th September 2012, 12:36
am i that crazy? people calling i'm crazy and one female ignore me by asking 2 question what's the meaning of money? if nothing then why you using it? from discussion these sheep agree with me but they still asleep following orders and accept this is it can't be any other way still calling me crazy. If i continue talk to my family about these kind of stuff what we talked about in avalon they will send me to see the doctor...
Alien Ramone
27th September 2012, 14:49
No. I'm the type that just has a few close friends, and we're still friends even after I went from clueless to realizing in a general sense what is going on about 6 years ago. One of my friends relaizes that the NWO stuff is going on, but isn't quite sold on the alien presense, although he is open to the possibility. My girlfriend doesn't believe any of it, but doesn't care what crazy sounding stuff I have come to believe is going on, since it doesn't really seem to affect the relationship otherwise. My nephew believes 9-11 was an inside job, but then doesn't believe any of the other NWO or alien realated things. He thinks governments will strive for more control, and corporation owners will influence and pressure governments to get what they want, but doesn't believe there is some coordinated effort for world domination. We get in some heated discussions about whether Obama cares about the middle class, whether government involvement in health care is to allow for eugneics programs in the future, and whether the idea of man made global warming is being used to get global taxes for global control. I try to get him to see that the voting for the lesser of two evils approach is a from of manipulation, and he tries to get me to not vote third party, because he thinks it's a wasted vote, but then when the discussion is over, it doesn't really matter, and we realize that we didn't convince the other one of anything. It doesn't affect the freindship any.
In general my personality has changed for the better from becoming more intuitive and aware. I understand people better then I used to, and I tend to fit in better now.
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