The daily hammer

[ulli]

Here is a place to express all that pent-up #$%.
It's rant time.
Music came up with the expression and I grabbed that ball and am running with it.

I know the mods probably won't like this, as it could make their lives harder, but if we try to keep the general tone amusing and entertaining, they might even chip in.

There is only one rule:
Not a whisper about Drake, ok?

So let's start with the biggest No-no of all:

The Grim Reaper:

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/2851771/sn/555797193/name/Thanatos+Toon+Rides+Again.jpg

[Reaver]

So is this supposed to be a thread where frustrated people can let some steam out because the mods may ban their ass is they are a little too tough with other people on the forum? Anesthesia for the ones who are too afraid of being left out if they cross some line I guess.

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

"They just keep holding me, won't let go, holdin' me won't let go, I need a hammer a hammer a hammer to hammer them down....."

0cTEMaWaKK0

Ever since Another Bob posted the Mantra, "Thank you for everything, I have no complaints", I have had a difficult time in finding things to rant about. But, I couldn't help but bring this great Wailers gem to light. Don't get me wrong, there is some low down soul-suckin' $%#* that gets me worked up, but, alas, there are those who have it much worse than I do. Regardless, you can't have a hammer without a nail, and my number one nail is monetized debt as a currency, especially in light of this election season. And this is the number one most ignored topic in all the election farcical debates. A pox on the debt of the nations!

[another bob]

I'm sorry Ulli, I am trying to dredge up something to complain about, but the only thing that comes up at the moment is some bearded guy hanging around in the background, with a falcon on his arm and a big grin on his mug, saying, "All is well."

:yo:

[Flash]

If i write on this actual thread, I will lose the thrill of complaining and being nasty in other thread and having the mods in my back: risk thrill: being expelled.

Oh, by the way, I wanted to say that for a while: HI REAVER, my opposite/arguing alter ego from Nexus.

You see Ulli, one stone (one post) two complaints - the second is on Reaver, lol.

[Anchor]

What are the rules of engagement in this school yard?

(Strike one)

[ulli]

So is this supposed to be a thread where frustrated people can let some steam out because the mods may ban their ass is they are a little too tough with other people on the forum? Anesthesia for the ones who are too afraid of being left out if they cross some line I guess.


You got it.
In any given group there are those who like life on the edge.
In other words, they will do whatever they can not to fall.
Their motto is to live dangerously and yet stay alive.

[Ontarioguy]

Not to piss off the OBVIOUS CLIQUE within the Avalon forum. And they know who they are too.... :)

[CdnSirian]

So who is going to post the Hitler video "They left me out of the Hammer thread"?

[gripreaper]

Death is an illusion, perpetrated by the notion and belief that our cells were designed to deteriorate. The avatars took ascension at will back in the ancient times, and chose when they were to leave the planet. Fear, is when the root chakra is pulled up from the earth and the energetic central column, the dijed, is not transmitting the energies from the earth and the heavens through the body. We pull our root chakra up because the kundalini moving up and down the central column, stirs up the chakras and challenges our beliefs and vibrates the severed and sequestered energy we have judged and cast out as negative or evil.

We externalize these sensations, attach archetypes and symbolism to them, justifying our beliefs, creating perturbations in our energy field, and thus, our cells deteriorate and we buy into the notion that death is a natural process. Death may be an agreed upon karmic reincarnational collective journey, yet is is not an inevitability within the energetic matrix of all possibilities in wholeness.

The energies we have cast out and severed from wholeness to which we have ascribed meaning and belief are in fact internal, and it is the elite power mongers who have understood the nature of consciousness and the energetics of humans and have pushed and conditioned such memes into our consciousness to manipulate us and steer us into their greed. They use these memes to vampire the vital life force energy and that is why we deteriorate and die. We keep giving our energy away.

So your premise of "The Fear of Death" is false.

[edit]and there are some who have looked at my avatar and thought that it said grim reaper, but in fact, I am the "grip" reaper. Not grim at all.

[ulli]

If i write on this actual thread, I will lose the thrill of complaining and being nasty in other thread and having the mods in my back: risk thrill: being expelled.

Oh, by the way, I wanted to say that for a while: HI REAVER, my opposite/arguing alter ego from Nexus.

You see Ulli, one stone (one post) two complaints - the second is on Reaver, lol.

I do understand. An official complaints department takes all the fun out of complaining.
But I have no specific expectations...threads have a tendency to take on a life of their own.

[CdnSirian]

OG, I usually get the Clique thing when it's way too late. Maybe I shouldn't be on this thread, or even on this forum!

[ulli]

I'm sorry Ulli, I am trying to dredge up something to complain about, but the only thing that comes up at the moment is some bearded guy hanging around in the background, with a falcon on his arm and a big grin on his mug, saying, "All is well."

:yo:

Take your time, dear bob.
Some things can't be forced.

[Reaver]

Oh, by the way, I wanted to say that for a while: HI REAVER, my opposite/arguing alter ego from Nexus.
You wish you could muster such an amazing alter ego... I'm not even joking.

[ulli]

OG, I usually get the Clique thing when it's way too late. Maybe I shouldn't be on this thread, or even on this forum!

Using words like "should" shows that you are stuck in clique mentality.
Drop that!
Join our Fight Club, and roll up your sleeves.

[CdnSirian]

OG, I usually get the Clique thing when it's way too late. Maybe I shouldn't be on this thread, or even on this forum!

Using words like "should" shows that you are stuck in clique mentality.
Drop that!
Join our Fight Club, and roll up your sleeves.

Ha ha ha. "I'd rather be a hammer than a nail..."

[Flash]

Oh, by the way, I wanted to say that for a while: HI REAVER, my opposite/arguing alter ego from Nexus.
You wish you could muster such an amazing alter ego... I'm not even joking.

In terms of age and lots of time to search and write, you are right, I wish I could muster...

as for the rest... bof, vraiment...

[modwiz]

Not to piss off the OBVIOUS CLIQUE within the Avalon forum. And they know who they are too.... :)

Who the clique are is not clicking with me. I guess I am with the oblivious clique. LOL

[Ontarioguy]

Cdnsirian, no worries...you are fine in here...and let me make myself clear!!! I am NOT a part of this CLIQUE!!! I got NO UE for CLIQUES!!! Oh my, they might come use their stick on me. Hmmm could be FUN!!! I have just noticed time and time again that they (clique) love to stick together...and will pounce on somebody that posts something they disagree with....it is sooo obvious!!! Naaa Cdnsirian just let em have their fun and let them entertain us all. That is really what all this amounts to anyway. Cheap entertainment :) Now time to go have a read on some of the more serious threads......

[modwiz]

It's hammer time!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo

Very flashy moves from MC.

[Reaver]

In terms of age and lots of time to search and write, you are right, I wish I could muster...

as for the rest... bof, vraiment...
You don't even know what an alter ego is, do you?

[modwiz]

In terms of age and lots of time to search and write, you are right, I wish I could muster...

as for the rest... bof, vraiment...
You don't even know what an alter ego is, do you?

It's hammer time!

[Reaver]

It's hammer time!
Nah, it's GOOGLE time... but some people are too lazy to type a few keywords :heh:

[Mike]

Cdnsirian, no worries...you are fine in here...and let me make myself clear!!! I am NOT a part of this CLIQUE!!! I got NO UE for CLIQUES!!! Oh my, they might come use their stick on me. Hmmm could be FUN!!! I have just noticed time and time again that they (clique) love to stick together...and will pounce on somebody that posts something they disagree with....it is sooo obvious!!! Naaa Cdnsirian just let em have their fun and let them entertain us all. That is really what all this amounts to anyway. Cheap entertainment :) Now time to go have a read on some of the more serious threads......



soooo... you don't like cliques then?

[ulli]

Cdnsirian, no worries...you are fine in here...and let me make myself clear!!! I am NOT a part of this CLIQUE!!! I got NO UE for CLIQUES!!! Oh my, they might come use their stick on me. Hmmm could be FUN!!! I have just noticed time and time again that they (clique) love to stick together...and will pounce on somebody that posts something they disagree with....it is sooo obvious!!! Naaa Cdnsirian just let em have their fun and let them entertain us all. That is really what all this amounts to anyway. Cheap entertainment :) Now time to go have a read on some of the more serious threads......

this sounds like an invitation to stalk
been wondering where all the real internet people hand/g out....

(Nah!..Cheap entertainment wins the day)

[gripreaper]

The ego. It's the terrestrial chakras, the root, sacral and solar plexus Why is there this notion that these chakras need to be transcended? In wholeness, these chakras are to be unified with the upper celestial chakras and bring the fulness of consciousness into the body. The collective dream is not to leave the body, but to be IN a body with all of the energetic kundalini available to all the chakras and thus be able to create at will.

So, I'm not buying it. I'm not transcending my ego, I'm just recognizing it in it's severed state from wholeness. Yea, it does some terrestrial things like worry about survival, or worry about life force and sexual energy, and gets the power thing all wrong, but it doesn't do those things when connected to my throat, third eye and crown, transmuted through the heart, the energy in all things, the great transducer.

So, the idea of an ego or an "alter" ego is a false premise.

[ulli]

It's hammer time!
Nah, it's GOOGLE time... but some people are too lazy to type a few keywords :heh:


Not necessary.
It's all pretty automatic:

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/47500/Go-Ogle--47755.jpg

[Mike]

wait a second...clique? isn't that a sound you make with your tongue?

man, i'm fu#kin lost.

hey, if someone besides OntarioGuy doesn't say something obnoxious in the next few mins, i'm gonna find a new clique to hang with. i'm thinking of one of the more "serious" threads.;)

[Flash]

No need for google, I knew the definiton before you were even in diapers Reaver.

Time for bed, goodnight kiddo Reaver.....:p Keep your dark side and me I will be the light one, for the moment. Dream well Reaver, you need it.

Good night everyone.

[ulli]

Bored now, bye!
Just kidding.
But it's getting late.
Seriously, not a bad start.
A bit timid with the insults...
I'm sure y'all can do better than that.

[another bob]

man, i'm fu#kin lost.




http://i50.tinypic.com/2hydv9u.jpg

[Mike]

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was a good idea Ulli, but it appears we're all softer than baby sh#t. i really thought we were all gonna be bombin' on each other. christ, i had like 6 jokes prepared for Modwiz' hair alone!;)

and Bob, what an incredibly sweet thing to say, but for crying out loud, will you for *once* in your life say something bitter and obnoxious. i know you have it in you man!;) if you just can't do it, simply write "f#ck" and i'll be pleased.

'Reaper, that insightful sh#t has no business here in the Hammer thread. say something shi#ty or get lost!;)

[gripreaper]

This might give some food for thought.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrqqD_Tsy4Q&feature=player_embedded#t=129s

[gripreaper]

Out of 92 million results for "The Daily Hammer", we're only at number 5 from the top?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+daily+hammer

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Well, there is more to vet about in the world than each other. Clearly our interactive purpose on this forum, or the thread in particular, has little to do with pointing out the presupposed, failed expectations of each other. Bigger fish to fry....

Monetized debt, foreclosures, the sustainability of an unsustainable, debt based economy..... the nail for anyone's hammer, IMHO.......

And another that hits close to home, is parental rights for homebirth via midwifery, oder Hebammer. One of my children was born at home with the help of a midwife. Across the nation, US that is, the right of a mother is being appallingly attacked through legislation. In other nations, the right of a mother to trust in her own body and deliver as she sees fit is upheld as an unalienable right. I'd like to see some changes in that. Shazaam!

[Carmody]

This will be my one rude contribution to this thread that is here to specifically 'take all kinds'.

Warning children, cover your ears:

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[meeradas]

ain't gonna post anything on a thread like this

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[Hervé]

↓!^$#*((^$**)+_^$╚6▐i1╪⌠2#╩♠☺↓♥•☻♣▀⌂▼♪≈₧ºΘ!!!

THERE!

I feel better now that I've said it all in one breath!

[araucaria]

OG, I usually get the Clique thing when it's way too late. Maybe I shouldn't be on this thread, or even on this forum!

Using words like "should" shows that you are stuck in clique mentality.
Drop that!
Join our Fight Club, and roll up your sleeves.

Ha ha ha. "I'd rather be a hammer than a nail..."


If all you have is a hammer, every problem will look like a nail, they say.

The real ones to watch out for are the people whose only tool is a screwdriver :)

Personally, I'd rather be a forest than a tree....

[Eram]

OG, I usually get the Clique thing when it's way too late. Maybe I shouldn't be on this thread, or even on this forum!

Using words like "should" shows that you are stuck in clique mentality.
Drop that!
Join our Fight Club, and roll up your sleeves.

Ha ha ha. "I'd rather be a hammer than a nail..."


If all you have is a hammer, every problem will look like a nail, they say.

The real ones to watch out for are the people whose only tool is a screwdriver :)

Personally, I'd rather be a forest than a tree....

pey29CLID3I

1.38 I'd rather be a hammer then a nail
2.32 I'd rather be a forest then a street (tree... ah well)

[ulli]

This thread could have its own mascot...
Choice is between hamster and squirrel.
Hammy the hamster is my choice.

http://www.google.com/search?q=hammy+the+hamster&hl=en&client=safari&sa=X&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&ei=GEhYUK9jptXSAbSjgcgB&ved=0CHsQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=673

[araucaria]

This thread could have its own mascot...
Choice is between hamster and squirrel.
Hammy the hamster is my choice.

http://www.google.com/search?q=hammy+the+hamster&hl=en&client=safari&sa=X&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&ei=GEhYUK9jptXSAbSjgcgB&ved=0CHsQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=673

Hi Ulli. A hamster?!!

What about a woodpecker? Or a hammerhead shark? :)

[araucaria]

OG, I usually get the Clique thing when it's way too late. Maybe I shouldn't be on this thread, or even on this forum!

Using words like "should" shows that you are stuck in clique mentality.
Drop that!
Join our Fight Club, and roll up your sleeves.

Ha ha ha. "I'd rather be a hammer than a nail..."


If all you have is a hammer, every problem will look like a nail, they say.

The real ones to watch out for are the people whose only tool is a screwdriver :)

Personally, I'd rather be a forest than a tree....

pey29CLID3I

1.38 I'd rather be a hammer then a nail
2.32 I'd rather be a forest then a street (tree... ah well)

Thanks, that sounds better. However, I stand by my version :)

You get individual araucarias in most botanical gardens, but their indigenous South American forests are in danger of extinction.

[ulli]

This thread could have its own mascot...
Choice is between hamster and squirrel.
Hammy the hamster is my choice.

http://www.google.com/search?q=hammy+the+hamster&hl=en&client=safari&sa=X&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&ei=GEhYUK9jptXSAbSjgcgB&ved=0CHsQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=673

Hi Ulli. A hamster?!!

What about a woodpecker? Or a hammerhead shark? :)

You are quite right, of course.
Furry animals get to me.

Plus I used to have a favorite saying that cracked people up...
When said in the right context hamsters take on new associations.
"the wheel is spinning, but the hamster is dead"

[araucaria]

This thread could have its own mascot...
Choice is between hamster and squirrel.
Hammy the hamster is my choice.

http://www.google.com/search?q=hammy+the+hamster&hl=en&client=safari&sa=X&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&ei=GEhYUK9jptXSAbSjgcgB&ved=0CHsQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=673

Hi Ulli. A hamster?!!

What about a woodpecker? Or a hammerhead shark? :)

You are quite right, of course.
Furry animals get to me.

Plus I used to have a favorite saying that cracked people up...
When said in the right context hamsters take on new associations.
"the wheel is spinning, but the hamster is dead"

Ah, the treadmill, of course! Stop the world, I want to get off. Me neither.

[observer]

Those among you who wonder just who the members in this clique are, watch the reactions this comment gets:

My pet peeve on the forum has always been those members who bring their subjective opinions onto a serious discussion and offer no evidence other than their personal testimonies, which usually derail the intention of the thread. This behavior is also a waste of valuable bandwidth.

Now.... personal testimonies are a wonderful thing when supporting a group in their theology. This is what the Fundamentalists call 'witnessing'.

For a group of individuals to sit around the camp fire singing kumbayah, and 'witnessing' to each other, gives the group a warm and fuzzy feeling. There in not a thing wrong with that. It is only when someone starts witnessing from the back of the bus that this behavior becomes obnoxious.

There is not a shred of objective evidence found in any personal testimony.

Most of the discussions in the 'General Discussion' Forum were intended to be objective in content. That forum was provided to discuss 'real' evidence and present such.

Subjective testimonies of personal religious, or astral experiences, or any other such personal testimonies should be kept in the proper forum where they belong - in the 'Channeled and Other Controversial Material' Forum.

Just my humble opinion....

[ulli]

Still waiting to hear the names of these mysterious clique members so I can join in that chorus.
There are quite a few how have brought up "the clique" now...
When we get to 1500 testimonies I figure we have enough evidence that such a clique exists.

[PurpleLama]

Who needs 1500 testamonies when we have almost 20000 posts to prove it, hahahaha.


Still waiting to hear the names of these mysterious clique members so I can join in that chorus.
There are quite a few how have brought up "the clique" now...
When we get to 1500 testimonies I figure we have enough evidence that such a clique exists.

[Hervé]

Who needs 1500 testamonies

[...]

I have got two of those in my purse... errr... scrotum... that's always been sufficient.

PS: check the etymology of that (alluded to) word.

[Fred Steeves]

Here is a place to express all that pent-up #$%.
It's rant time.
Music came up with the expression and I grabbed that ball and am running with it.
All in honor of 9eagle9. (She'll be BAACK, I promise)


I have to ask ulli. Music's expression was most certainly an insult, and directed squarely at 9eagle9. So unless I'm mistaken, which I hope I am, this thread title strikes me more as sticking pins in a 9eagle9 voodoo doll, not actually honoring her. Am I way off base here?

Cheers,
Fred

[PurpleLama]

Try sticking a pin in a 9e9 voo doo doll, and it will wind up planted squarely in your own rear end, mark my words, Fred. No one with any sense would think of doing such a thing in 9's direction! *coughcoughmusiccough*

[Anchor]

Thinks - I think I had better stop, or I may need to escalate, and I don't want to.
Concludes - thread may have been a fun idea, probably not for the best.
Withdraws.

[ulli]

Here is a place to express all that pent-up #$%.
It's rant time.
Music came up with the expression and I grabbed that ball and am running with it.
All in honor of 9eagle9. (She'll be BAACK, I promise)


I have to ask ulli. Music's expression was most certainly an insult, and directed squarely at 9eagle9. So unless I'm mistaken, which I hope I am, this thread title strikes me more as sticking pins in a 9eagle9 voodoo doll, not actually honoring her. Am I way off base here?

Cheers,
Fred

Sticking pins? Voodoo dolls??
Of course you are not off base Fred....this thread was designed to bring out all sorts of issues.
Be my guest.
Must admit I have forgotten about 9eagle already. I saw Musics choice of words and the rest is history.

Here is a place to rant freely. But rants are not necessarily invitations for combat.
So where do you want to go with this?

[D-Day]

Here is a place to express all that pent-up #$%.
It's rant time.
Music came up with the expression and I grabbed that ball and am running with it.
All in honor of 9eagle9. (She'll be BAACK, I promise)


I have to ask ulli. Music's expression was most certainly an insult, and directed squarely at 9eagle9. So unless I'm mistaken, which I hope I am, this thread title strikes me more as sticking pins in a 9eagle9 voodoo doll, not actually honoring her. Am I way off base here?

Cheers,
Fred

You are a lot smarter than you look, Fred ;)

No offense intended btw... just my way of reinforcing your point.

[PurpleLama]

On second though, I'm with Anchor

*ducks out nearest exit*

[Flash]

Here is a place to express all that pent-up #$%.
It's rant time.
Music came up with the expression and I grabbed that ball and am running with it.
All in honor of 9eagle9. (She'll be BAACK, I promise)


I have to ask ulli. Music's expression was most certainly an insult, and directed squarely at 9eagle9. So unless I'm mistaken, which I hope I am, this thread title strikes me more as sticking pins in a 9eagle9 voodoo doll, not actually honoring her. Am I way off base here?

Cheers,
Fred

This thread is not, in my opinion, to honor anyone but to let the steam out when there is some, and to get go at someone on friendly/non courteous basis. I just did that with Reaver - although I am not sure of his intents on his side. But who cares, it is the hammer thread, you see...

Sensitive egos will certainly be shock here. One thing though, when someone call it out, it should be respected and enforced, I think this should be a rule (yes Reaver, you went too far once on the other forum, this time I would call it out. but otherwise, I have fun). Otherwise, anything goes. imho

[ulli]

On second though, I'm with Anchor

*ducks out nearest exit*

You will be missed. Anchor, too.
How will you ever learn the art of insult now?
A forum of 5000 members and only one is ever allowed to rant and insult freely?

Reminds me of the assigned role of the court jester....
To me that's an imbalance.
If each one of us is a universe then each one of us has to be able to play all parts.....

Ok, tea break is over...
Another round coming up.

[Fred Steeves]

So where do you want to go with this?

Nowhere dear lady, that's it. Please carry on. http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif

Fred out.

[Ultima Thule]

Hmm.. concerning cliques, there is 60 cliques in one minute forum.

[ulli]

So where do you want to go with this?

Nowhere dear lady, that's it. Please carry on. http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif

Fred out.
hmm...interesting.
I wish I had Carmody's post handy....
He once explained how there is a gender thing going on when it comes to making peaceful choices.
In his post he described a bunch of shop assistants chasing a shop lifter down the road, and only the female kept on running,
Determined to catch the thief. Meanwhile all the males turned back.
His explanation at the time was that the males feared what they might be capable of doing once they took the chase to it's conclusion.
The cartoon I placed in the OP is there for a reason....
All interactions in the real world are about both parties, but Internet forum interactions are about the self, and one's relationship with the self/Self.

[benevolentcrow]

I am trying to live by this motto! Don't want to go in the other direction:)

[ulli]

I am trying to live by this motto! Don't want to go in the other direction:)

That's easy for you to say. You've just signed a lease last week.
I'm jealous. Grumble, grumble.
Been a shop keeper since England days where I had two stores, then in Barbados ( three) but after trying twice here in Costa Rica I had to quit; it is simply too hard.
Unless I put an armed guard in the entrance it is not safe. Plus the people here are not comfortable shopping in thrift shops as they associate them with poverty...something no middle class person here wants to be mixed up with. So instead of moving merchandise I move mind stuff.

[13th Warrior]

Maybe the proper kind of music will provide the mood for you to get your inner angst out?

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I heard someone say Fight Club...

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Please stick to the rules!

If this is your first night at Fight Club...YOU HAVE TO FIGHT!!!!!

LET'S GET IT ON!!!

[ulli]

Maybe the proper kind of music will provide the mood for you to get your inner angst out?

fTpQOZcNASw


I heard someone say Fight Club...

pX9KqNzH73o

Please stick to the rules!

If this is your first night at Fight Club...YOU HAVE TO FIGHT!!!!!

LET'S GET IT ON!!!



First rule of The Daily Hammer thread:
Watch the movie Fight Club.
All of it, right to the end.

[benevolentcrow]

I am trying to live by this motto! Don't want to go in the other direction:)

That's easy for you to say. You've just signed a lease last week.
I'm jealous. Grumble, grumble.
Been a shop keeper since England days where I had two stores, then in Barbados ( three) but after trying twice here in Costa Rica I had to quit; it is simply too hard.
Unless I put an armed guard in the entrance it is not safe. Plus the people here are not comfortable shopping in thrift shops as they associate them with poverty...something no middle class person here wants to be mixed up with. So instead of moving merchandise I move mind stuff.

Wow experience, you are hired! It is scary and exciting started a brand spanking new journey! Thank goodness people associate vintage with reduce, reuse, recycle, a more green approach. I could probably do some pickin' in Costa Rica! Mmmmm is the Village Resort complete yet?

[bogeyman]

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He can solve anybody's problem....;)

[ulli]

I am trying to live by this motto! Don't want to go in the other direction:)

That's easy for you to say. You've just signed a lease last week.
I'm jealous. Grumble, grumble.
Been a shop keeper since England days where I had two stores, then in Barbados ( three) but after trying twice here in Costa Rica I had to quit; it is simply too hard.
Unless I put an armed guard in the entrance it is not safe. Plus the people here are not comfortable shopping in thrift shops as they associate them with poverty...something no middle class person here wants to be mixed up with. So instead of moving merchandise I move mind stuff.

Wow experience, you are hired! It is scary and exciting started a brand spanking new journey! Thank goodness people associate vintage with reduce, reuse, recycle, a more green approach. I could probably do some pickin' in Costa Rica! Mmmmm is the Village Resort complete yet?

No pickings here...they don't throw out...there is always someone poorer to give ones unwanted possessions to. Plus there are no estate sales, no antiques shops, no thrift stores. Of all the culture shocks I've been through that one was the most shocking.
The history of Costa Rica is different from other Latin countries...the early settlers were poor Spanish peasants...
since there was no gold here the rich went elsewhere...and now all you can find here is plastic made in China.

[Carmody]

So where do you want to go with this?

Nowhere dear lady, that's it. Please carry on. http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif

Fred out.
hmm...interesting.
I wish I had Carmody's post handy....
He once explained how there is a gender thing going on when it comes to making peaceful choices.
In his post he described a bunch of shop assistants chasing a shop lifter down the road, and only the female kept on running,
Determined to catch the thief. Meanwhile all the males turned back.
His explanation at the time was that the males feared what they might be capable of doing once they took the chase to it's conclusion.
The cartoon I placed in the OP is there for a reason....
All interactions in the real world are about both parties, but Internet forum interactions are about the self, and one's relationship with the self/Self.

It was about how the male of the species will generally escalate until someone dies. And it had to do with how much fear of prosecution that the male shoplifter might have had,and how far they where willing to go.

The psychology, at the base level, of human male vs human female. Thus the women more tend to try and correct, not kill, and the males try to finalize, er, more in a cock fight kind of way, so in those battles, someone dies, or comes close to it.

Thus the men chasing the shoplifter had final moments of fully blown male confrontation in their minds and decided that they did not want that chance condition in their life as a final outcome in this given chase... and the woman was chasing him down, simply trying to correct things in a fundamentally different way. Both following the general patterns of their internal wiring. Completely different visions in their minds, of what the outcome might be. the male shoplifter was running hard, so his commitment was high. And in the minds of the men chasing, they decided that they did not want the thing to go sideways into extreme physical IF he was caught..as the hard running and distance/effort involved, made it clear that the shoplifter's commitment was high.

We hear story after story of police chases that end in disaster, when the police shoot the perpetrator or whomever, no matter the level of innocence or guilt involved, simply due to the tensions involved and the male wiring involved.

Another friend was making comment on that, regarding being in a bar and women being involved in creating or being connected to any part of the communication, physical expression, or stance of any potential conflict between males. The women will quickly escalate things and then the men finalize.

However, we all know or have heard of this story, of men who will generally try and keep women out of those things, in order to prevent an escalation, or a beginning of anything.....that their basic male human design ---will demand be finalized in some manner. The alcohol/bar scenario does not help, having blunted higher function and in all the wiring between. That the fundamental differences in what finalization and escalation mean, in each principle wiring design difference between male and female humans, makes mixing, on some levels and conditions/situations...a problem, unless awareness of all comes into play.

Some say aspects of politeness and communication surrounding the idea of political protocol (and similar) arose simply to prevent men from killing each other. Which viewed from the right angle, can't be anything but close to the exact truth.

[benevolentcrow]

I am trying to live by this motto! Don't want to go in the other direction:)

That's easy for you to say. You've just signed a lease last week.
I'm jealous. Grumble, grumble.
Been a shop keeper since England days where I had two stores, then in Barbados ( three) but after trying twice here in Costa Rica I had to quit; it is simply too hard.
Unless I put an armed guard in the entrance it is not safe. Plus the people here are not comfortable shopping in thrift shops as they associate them with poverty...something no middle class person here wants to be mixed up with. So instead of moving merchandise I move mind stuff.

Wow experience, you are hired! It is scary and exciting started a brand spanking new journey! Thank goodness people associate vintage with reduce, reuse, recycle, a more green approach. I could probably do some pickin' in Costa Rica! Mmmmm is the Village Resort complete yet?

No pickings here...they don't throw out...there is always someone poorer to give ones unwanted possessions to. Plus there are no estate sales, no antiques shops, no thrift stores. Of all the culture shocks I've been through that one was the most shocking.
The history of Costa Rica is different from other Latin countries...the early settlers were poor Spanish peasants...
since there was no gold here the rich went elsewhere...and now all you can find here is plastic made in China.

So sad, do come up to the Pacific North West for a vintage store fix! Would love to have you!

I guess I am not pitchin' a fit like I oughta for this thread, where is my hammer?

Yay! I found it!

[ulli]

So where do you want to go with this?

Nowhere dear lady, that's it. Please carry on. http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif

Fred out.
hmm...interesting.
I wish I had Carmody's post handy....
He once explained how there is a gender thing going on when it comes to making peaceful choices.
In his post he described a bunch of shop assistants chasing a shop lifter down the road, and only the female kept on running,
Determined to catch the thief. Meanwhile all the males turned back.
His explanation at the time was that the males feared what they might be capable of doing once they took the chase to it's conclusion.
The cartoon I placed in the OP is there for a reason....
All interactions in the real world are about both parties, but Internet forum interactions are about the self, and one's relationship with the self/Self.

It was about how the male of the species will generally escalate until someone dies. And it had to do with how much fear of prosecution that the male shoplifter might have had,and how far they where willing to go.

The psychology, at the base level, of human male vs human female. Thus the women more tend to try and correct, not kill, and the males try to finalize, er, more in a cock fight kind of way, so in those battles, someone dies, or comes close to it.

Yep, that's it. In any case, that's how it is with those who have not yet decided to create themselves,
or who have self knowledge. Instinctive reactions rather than conscious responses.
The desire to change outer reality without having proper back-up from within.
So I created this thread...give people a chance to create inner trust.

[ulli]

I am trying to live by this motto! Don't want to go in the other direction:)

That's easy for you to say. You've just signed a lease last week.
I'm jealous. Grumble, grumble.
Been a shop keeper since England days where I had two stores, then in Barbados ( three) but after trying twice here in Costa Rica I had to quit; it is simply too hard.
Unless I put an armed guard in the entrance it is not safe. Plus the people here are not comfortable shopping in thrift shops as they associate them with poverty...something no middle class person here wants to be mixed up with. So instead of moving merchandise I move mind stuff.

Wow experience, you are hired! It is scary and exciting started a brand spanking new journey! Thank goodness people associate vintage with reduce, reuse, recycle, a more green approach. I could probably do some pickin' in Costa Rica! Mmmmm is the Village Resort complete yet?

No pickings here...they don't throw out...there is always someone poorer to give ones unwanted possessions to. Plus there are no estate sales, no antiques shops, no thrift stores. Of all the culture shocks I've been through that one was the most shocking.
The history of Costa Rica is different from other Latin countries...the early settlers were poor Spanish peasants...
since there was no gold here the rich went elsewhere...and now all you can find here is plastic made in China.

So sad, do come up to the Pacific North West for a vintage store fix! Would love to have you!

I guess I am not pitchin' a fit like I oughta for this thread, where is my hammer?

Yay! I found it!

Oh, and I have a couple of spare vintage hammers in case yours gets lost.
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/RARE-Vintage-Hammer-Antique-Old-Forge-Blacksmith-Wood-Hammers-Iron-Mallet-7022-/00/s/OTYwWDEyODA=/$(KGrHqV,!lcE9R8yOOBDBPlNckhYy!~~60_35.JPG

[CD7]

HOW MANY MORE TIMES AM I GOING TO HEAR ABOUT SHOW PONY-kate AND HER TOPLESS DEBACLE!!!?????? HOW MANY TIMES AM I GOING TO BE TOLD WHAT SHE'S WEARING??!!

here you go my complaint for the day......................................................solution to my problem pick up boyfriend 'big screen' and throw it in the trash<-----DREAM SOLUTION couldnt really do it but fantasize about it often :)

[ulli]

Some say aspects of politeness and communication surrounding the idea of political protocol (and similar) arose simply to prevent men from killing each other. Which viewed from the right angle, can't be anything but close to the exact truth.

Very true indeed.
When I met my husband in Barbados he was a diplomat there, and protocol was everything.
There were endless cultural differences between the Barbadian society of descendants of African slaves,
all practicing some form of protestant Anglican religion
and the Latino Roman Catholic culture with a blend of indigenous blood in the mix...
the only thing they had in common was the fact that they were colonized.
We used to host small dinner parties to give the Colombian, Brazilian, Peruvian diplomats a chance to vent about their Caribbean hosts.
But protocol does serve it's purpose, just ask Ingo Swann and Joe McMoneagle.
Anyway, each successive generation will have it easier, as long as they are allowed to mix and discover their common ground.

[ulli]

HOW MANY MORE TIMES AM I GOING TO HEAR ABOUT SHOW PONY-kate AND HER TOPLESS DEBACLE!!!?????? HOW MANY TIMES AM I GOING TO BE TOLD WHAT SHE'S WEARING??!!

here you go my complaint for the day......................................................solution to my problem pick up boyfriend 'big screen' and throw it in the trash<-----DREAM SOLUTION couldnt really do it but fantasize about it often :)

This rant deserves repeating. Ditto. Mine even stopped in the store the other day to look at still bigger screens. Wow, look at how these prices are dropping, he said.
I told him he would have to get his own screening room. Not in my vicinity.

[Tangri]

Not to piss off the OBVIOUS CLIQUE within the Avalon forum. And they know who they are too.... :)

Who the clique are is not clicking with me. I guess I am with the oblivious clique. LOL

Paranoia? or feeling of Guilt (collective or /and personal)?

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2007/11/27/5-tips-for-dealing-with-guilt/

I specially recommend 3rd one

[Mark]

Good points Carmody and Ulli re escalating. Thats why everybodys afraid of this thread except for those who dont mind escalating to the edge anyway. The nice folks. People think Im nice I think. But Ive got a serious competitve side Ive kept under wraps since I left Academia. But Im returning in the Spring so its gonna need some airing out.

Being nice often is not helpful to personal evolution. In many cases it is fear based. It seems, as with everything, there is a middling path where aggression has to meet passivity.

So Im challenging the nice ones. Yes that means you.

I wanna bring the hammer on those who are always preaching scientific objectivity. Thats whats got us in the mess were in right now technologically. Thats whats got us testing product on animals and people. Thats whats got Gaia on the ropes contemplating gangsta solutions. That vaunted and supposed objectivity allowed the West to rape the world and justify it as survival of the fittest and social darwinism. So called scientific objectivity is the bane of the world. Defending it and calling for it here is going directly against the forums new mantra regarding a space where science and spirituality meet.

Im calling all of you out. The hammer is coming down. ;)

[CD7]

There is not a shred of objective evidence found in any personal testimony.

Most of the discussions in the 'General Discussion' Forum were intended to be objective in content. That forum was provided to discuss 'real' evidence and present such.


'REAL EVIDENCE'---- objective observations by a human that writes the 'observation' in a document/report/printed in a book............................Whos to say whether this human who takes 'physical' evidence and EXPRESSES his/her spin on it is any more valid?

To me the lines are blurred if one really breaks it down its--- HUMANS expressing what they experience and see..whether its been published in a book or spoken by the tongue, VALIDITY is ANYONES GUESS SERIOUSLY


It takes ALL of our observations COMBINED to add weight to a subject----------------THOSE WHO ARE MAKING THINGS UP KNOW WHO THEY ARE


I mean this as a serious debate...i think its difficult to draw the lines of whats valid and what isnt?

[ulli]

Not to piss off the OBVIOUS CLIQUE within the Avalon forum. And they know who they are too.... :)

Who the clique are is not clicking with me. I guess I am with the oblivious clique. LOL

Paranoia? or feeling of Guilt (collective or /and personal)?

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2007/11/27/5-tips-for-dealing-with-guilt/

I specially recommend 3rd one

One question, Levent tonga.
Hope you don't mind.

If one is oblivious, how then can one feel guilt?

[ulli]

There is not a shred of objective evidence found in any personal testimony.

Most of the discussions in the 'General Discussion' Forum were intended to be objective in content. That forum was provided to discuss 'real' evidence and present such.


'REAL EVIDENCE'---- objective observations by a human that writes the 'observation' in a document/report/printed in a book............................Whos to say whether this human who takes 'physical' evidence and EXPRESSES his/her spin on it is any more valid?

To me the lines are blurred if one really breaks it down its--- HUMANS expressing what they experience and see..whether its been published in a book or spoken by the tongue, VALIDITY is ANYONES GUESS SERIOUSLY


It takes ALL of our observations COMBINED to add weight to a subject----------------THOSE WHO ARE MAKING THINGS UP KNOW WHO THEY ARE


I mean this as a serious debate...i think its difficult to draw the lines of whats valid and what isnt?

Especially on a forum which deals with fringe issues.

Hey, maybe this thread should be given a new name?
The Blurred Line.

That could appease Fred and Anchor and PurpleLama sufficiently to bring them back?

[13th Warrior]

Im calling all of you out. The hammer is coming down.

Keep it down...you're making a lot of rahkyt!

[ulli]

Good points Carmody and Ulli re escalating. Thats why everybodys afraid of this thread except for those who dont mind escalating to the edge anyway. The nice folks. People think Im nice I think. But Ive got a serious competitve side Ive kept under wraps since I left Academia. But Im returning in the Spring so its gonna need some airing out.

Being nice often is not helpful to personal evolution. In many cases it is fear based. It seems, as with everything, there is a middling path where aggression has to meet passivity.

So Im challenging the nice ones. Yes that means you.

I wanna bring the hammer on those who are always preaching scientific objectivity. Thats whats got us in the mess were in right now technologically. Thats whats got us testing product on animals and people. Thats whats got Gaia on the ropes contemplating gangsta solutions. That vaunted and supposed objectivity allowed the West to rape the world and justify it as survival of the fittest and social darwinism. So called scientific objectivity is the bane of the world. Defending it and calling for it here is going directly against the forums new mantra regarding a space where science and spirituality meet.

Im calling all of you out. The hammer is coming down. ;)

You found your niche, Rahkyt.
I mean ledge.
I mean sledge.

Whatever. Eagles nest. (duck, duck)

[Arrowwind]

Try sticking a pin in a 9e9 voo doo doll, and it will wind up planted squarely in your own rear end, mark my words, Fred. No one with any sense would think of doing such a thing in 9's direction! *coughcoughmusiccough*

You've got to be kidding!
Why would anyone allow her to take such power over them.
You need to go back to school and learn how to defend yourself
on multidimensinal levels
and any other plane you hang out in.

(and please take the work 'you' in a nonpersonal way, Im talking to those she got the best of or tried to get the best of though her beligigerance)

9e9 met her limit here. She got canned. she has anger that she is not dealing with. she projects her anger on others to no great avail.
If you got trapped in her anger web, you can ignore her, you can react with anger, you can react with feelings of low self esteem, guilt, shame, you can react with centered consciousness...
but her mode of operation turned into anger . Shes got deep issues she hasn't resolved

she thinks shes got to take a hammer to people to wake them up
but that is a abusive approach
she doesnt know how to make any other approach effective.

and her attachments to outcome rule her.. she has to have you see it her way
cause she beleives her way is the only right way, which of courese makes you wrong,
your experience wrong, your path of learing wrong, your whole existence based on wrongness.

So she gets pissed off and takes out her hammer and slams you.

Did it feel good? Did it help? Did you learn? Are you healed?
are you transformed?


Its like an abusive parent who kicks a kid because he doesnt really know how to love a kid, teach a kid, allow a kid to 'be' into its own evolution.

Voodoo only works on those who are not energetically evovled and who dont have their chakra system working in unison.
She couldnt touch me with a 10 foot pole.

Dont get me wrong, 9e9, she's a very smart lady.. quick with words, can weave a tale, a good talker...
but the person she's been hurting most is herself for she feels self justified to be angry and to project it out to the world
to teach em all.

Good greif, Thank god some where were bright enough to try to call her on it or I would have lost all hope for this forum.

I never did confront her on the treads she took over. I did warn her once that her anger would get the best of her but she came back to me with a defence for her abusiveness.
Oh well. It was a battle I had no interest in really, at least to get involved in the heat of it. This is for those who felt she took liberties in their direction, either collectively or personally.

So there, my hammer for the day.http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/alanpoulson/alanpoulson1207/alanpoulson120700417/14610637-a-woman-is-swinging-a-hammer-and-likes-it.jpg

[ThePythonicCow]

hmm...interesting.
I wish I had Carmody's post handy....
He once explained how there is a gender thing going on when it comes to making peaceful choices.
In his post he described a bunch of shop assistants chasing a shop lifter down the road, and only the female kept on running,

This post: Here and Now...What's Happening? (Post #11842) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=460464&viewfull=1#post460464)

[Camilo]

6 out of the 21 years I lived in the USA, I was a PI, and "surveillance" was one the most requested services by our clients. Some times I feel like something similar is going on here.

[Selene]

This will not end well.

My money's on the eagle.... and I'm also outta here, guys. Have fun.

http://imageshack.us/a/img24/8814/housecatvseaglewallpape.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/housecatvseaglewallpape.jpg/)

Cheers,

Selene

[modwiz]

This thread could have its own mascot...
Choice is between hamster and squirrel.
Hammy the hamster is my choice.

http://www.google.com/search?q=hammy+the+hamster&hl=en&client=safari&sa=X&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&ei=GEhYUK9jptXSAbSjgcgB&ved=0CHsQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=673

I just heard from Richard Gere and he gives a big thumbs up for the hamster idea. :p

[write4change]

I am now enscounced in my office after three weeks on the road and 3600 miles by myself. I could write a book about what I have learned about my country. I admit to being ego weak that taking the time to write and finding it not useful to others makes me stop. So overcoming that feeling is my first step to writing.

I have been reading all these threads and their relations and I am working up to addressing them. I like the idea of this hammer thread. I do not write on what is happening because it feels so fairy airy on a whole. I am not saying that is bad. I am saying my life is a daily hammer right now and I do not have what it takes to be either clever or beautiful. I am being slammed and I am slamming. I am also influenced by what people have to say.

The purpose of this reply is to explain for the first time where I am now. I wrote on Ulli's thread about being robbed on July 3rd by someone I let in my house who asked for my help. That person was an old black woman and I live in the hood of LA. I said I would never help another black person and I was told to rethink using such a broad brush. Which I did even though I have had six years of experience being white in the hood. I hate thinking of myself as a racist. But I cannot tell who is a good black person and who is not. I don't have the radar for the black con the way I have an instinct for bad white people.

So I have been preparing for the big trip to Texas--getting my car fixed in all ways which was a couple of thousand dollars but I had chosen to keep the old car in good repair rather than a newer used car I knew nothing about. I cannot afford a new one period.

I always feel watched in my neighborhood. They see me packing a lugging things to the garage. They see me packing up the car. At 68 I am slow. So the day before I am to leave this reasonably young black woman comes pounding on my door and crying her mother has collapsed and been taken to Centinnela hospital and could I please take her there and she will pay me 20 dollars etc. I decide this will kill two birds with one stone and I will drop her off and go to the 99 cent store and pick up ice and stuff for the trip. To make a long story shorter, she is directing me heither and yon and I am getting fed up. She has me drop her off at a school. What I don't realize is that while I turned my back to pick up my purse and things and she is standing in the doorway, she steals my extra car key and while we are in the car she asks for stuff which I say no and gages my reaction to her trying to reach things in the back seat. I have left the front seat vacant for the cat. I drop her off and go in the house to fix the stuff to leave for the trip. She uses the key to get in the car and takes my purse with 1900 dollars in it and my cell phone. My car has a computer key and I had just bought a second one to the tune of 125 dollars and I am not used to having it and so placed it by the door so I would not forget it. I wanted to buy a magnetic box to put it in--not in my purse. My car is so safe electronically that I feel it is safer than the house and why I left my purse in it.

So I am confronted with no money for the trip and she has my car key and can steal the car. I already know the police in LA will really do nothing. Their big money is made confiscating cars and auctioning them and crime of the poor on the poor holds no interest for them. So I decide to take the money that will pay the bills for September and go to Texas anyway and see if this is a fantasy or not.

While I was gone, whoever had my phone which was brand new and paid through November, called one of my friends three times. I did enough good on the trip to Texas that I was able to let it all go and just deal with the next steps. Sunday at 8PM I am sleeping on my couch with the windows and doors open but barred because it has been over a 100 for days and I am still recovering from the trip.

This woman bangs on my door. I turn on the light and I see it is the same woman who pulled the con and got my car key etc. As soon as I turn on the light she covers her face and asks me to turn out the light as it hurts her eyes. I am keeping the door closed. She starts on some tupper ware song and dance and I wonder what she is doing and I am acting disoriented from being woke up. And I know she thinks I am an easy mark now. Short story she offers me a silver colored medallion with a prayer on it for my key chain. I am interested in taking it to get her finger prints. I open the door to let my hand only out to receive it and she pulls it open and pepper sprays me in the face. I now know or feel this is a fight to the death--mine. The steel door is behind me and even though I am blind and in huge pain I push her out and try slamming the steel door closed. We are fighting back and forth with her trying to get in and me keeping her out. I cannot lock the door, she is preventing it somehow and I cannot keep it closed tightly. Things are breaking everywhere. I am spitting this stuff out of my mouth and I am finally able to start screaming and I am bellowing because I can hardly speak now. The screaming causes her to leave. I have no phone. None of my neighbors are home. I am running up and down the street blind screaming for someone to call 911.

When the EMTs come my blood pressure is 148 over 88 which is not bad for what I have done. There is a part of me that is proud that I beat her but I realize that she thought the pepper spray would do me in and I am not sure what she thought she would do after that. Was she prepared to beat me to death for stuff. She did feel the full fury of my will which I think she thought not possible. What she did get this time was my key chain with all my keys on it. Some of my black friends came and got me that night and drove my car off.

My black friends think this is a junkie and my white friends think this is all about the law suit and too coincidental. Because someone tried to kill me once over money and for a law suit. I have been preparing for this for a year which is why I have the downtown office in LA and there is no paper trail to it. I have told the management here the story and they have allowed me to be late on the rent for a month. I am being very careful about everything.

I have much to say about the daily hammers and I am aware that I am not the only person experiencing them. This thread has its place especially for me. I intend to tell about all these hammers and get advice. I think people need to read about those who are really slamming it out, spirituality comes in many forms of not giving into ego, stupidity, cons etc. It is saying I made a mistake and there but for the grace of god go I.

[Mark]

Hey W4C, yeh you made a mistake alright, getting caught up in the same kind of con that got you the last time you posted about this kind of circumstance, someone coming to your door with a hard-luck story. I submit that if you lived in a poor white neighborhood with a lot of meth and crack fiends around, you would still be approached by people trying to con you. I submit, again, that it is not race, but economic circumstance. Fiends seem to have a "6th sense" for what they call marks. They can see if you have a kind soul in your eyes, demeanor and of course they can hear it in your voice.

Your fighting back in this instance is so commendable and yet such a shame that you would even have to do it. I'm glad you're ok. I would recommend you watching the eyes next time anybody gives you a hard-luck story. Watch the eyes and watch the demeanor, are they shuffling around, hands always busy? This will be the same no matter the race of the perpetrator.

You mentioned a law-suit above, is it against the city or the property-owner? It would not be totally out of bounds for either to send folks to 'scare' you but if you were leaving (for good or not) that makes little sense, as breaking in and destroying your home would have resulted in an easier and more effective way of scaring you than sending someone to either succeed or fail in "tricking" you into falling for their hard-luck story.

You brought the hammer down. Blessings, and hope you're still able to go on your trip.

[modwiz]

Try sticking a pin in a 9e9 voo doo doll, and it will wind up planted squarely in your own rear end, mark my words, Fred. No one with any sense would think of doing such a thing in 9's direction! *coughcoughmusiccough*

You've got to be kidding!
Why would anyone allow her to take such power over them.
You need to go back to school and learn how to defend yourself
on multidimensinal levels
and any other plane you hang out in.

(and please take the work 'you' in a nonpersonal way, Im talking to those she got the best of or tried to get the best of though her beligigerance)

9e9 met her limit here. She got canned. she has anger that she is not dealing with. she projects her anger on others to no great avail.
If you got trapped in her anger web, you can ignore her, you can react with anger, you can react with feelings of low self esteem, guilt, shame, you can react with centered consciousness...
but her mode of operation turned into anger . Shes got deep issues she hasn't resolved

she thinks shes got to take a hammer to people to wake them up
but that is a abusive approach
she doesnt know how to make any other approach effective.

and her attachments to outcome rule her.. she has to have you see it her way
cause she beleives her way is the only right way, which of courese makes you wrong,
your experience wrong, your path of learing wrong, your whole existence based on wrongness.

So she gets pissed off and takes out her hammer and slams you.

Did it feel good? Did it help? Did you learn? Are you healed?
are you transformed?


Its like an abusive parent who kicks a kid because he doesnt really know how to love a kid, teach a kid, allow a kid to 'be' into its own evolution.

Voodoo only works on those who are not energetically evovled and who dont have their chakra system working in unison.
She couldnt touch me with a 10 foot pole.

Dont get me wrong, 9e9, she's a very smart lady.. quick with words, can weave a tale, a good talker...
but the person she's been hurting most is herself for she feels self justified to be angry and to project it out to the world
to teach em all.

Good greif, Thank god some where were bright enough to try to call her on it or I would have lost all hope for this forum.

I never did confront her on the treads she took over. I did warn her once that her anger would get the best of her but she came back to me with a defence for her abusiveness.
Oh well. It was a battle I had no interest in really, at least to get involved in the heat of it. This is for those who felt she took liberties in their direction, either collectively or personally.

So there, my hammer for the day.http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/alanpoulson/alanpoulson1207/alanpoulson120700417/14610637-a-woman-is-swinging-a-hammer-and-likes-it.jpg

She did not get canned. It was a 2 week vacation. She has chosen to not return. BTW. Her daughter adores her and the relationship is one of the best I have seen with a teenager. I wish my almost 16 year old son was as helpful and supportive as with me her (9eagles) 16 year old daughter is of her. These two say, "I love you" at least once a day to each other. Simply put, 9eagle is a very kind and giving person.

I will say that I did not raise my son.

[ulli]

6 out of the 21 years I lived in the USA, I was a PI, and "surveillance" was one the most requested services by our clients. Some times I feel like something similar is going on here.

Surveillance is everywhere these days, and ultimately should not even be a big deal.
Where surveillance really counts, as far as effective change is goes, is in the most private arena...the surveillance of the self by oneself.
And there is very little of that.
But when a person finds their own strengths and weaknesses by being honest with themselves and start to build on the wanted parts and remove the unwanted aspects, that's when amazing powers can come through. But it is a private matter, one's own business, done in secret, away from the eyes of the world.
If done with diligence the results are spectacular and worth the effort.

[ulli]

This thread could have its own mascot...
Choice is between hamster and squirrel.
Hammy the hamster is my choice.

http://www.google.com/search?q=hammy+the+hamster&hl=en&client=safari&sa=X&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&ei=GEhYUK9jptXSAbSjgcgB&ved=0CHsQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=673

I just heard from Richard Gere and he gives a big thumbs uo for the hamster idea. :p

Urban legend which has nothing to do with hamsters.

[araucaria]

write4change, you have obviously been going through a great deal lately. I hope writing about it helps, not so much in the sense of getting it off your chest (although releasing anger is good too), but because writing is an excellent way of focussing your intention on refusing the negative and reinforcing the positive.

[ulli]

I am now enscounced in my office after three weeks on the road and 3600 miles by myself. I could write a book about what I have learned about my country. I admit to being ego weak that taking the time to write and finding it not useful to others makes me stop. So overcoming that feeling is my first step to writing.

I have been reading all these threads and their relations and I am working up to addressing them. I like the idea of this hammer thread. I do not write on what is happening because it feels so fairy airy on a whole. I am not saying that is bad. I am saying my life is a daily hammer right now and I do not have what it takes to be either clever or beautiful. I am being slammed and I am slamming. I am also influenced by what people have to say.

The purpose of this reply is to explain for the first time where I am now. I wrote on Ulli's thread about being robbed on July 3rd by someone I let in my house who asked for my help. That person was an old black woman and I live in the hood of LA. I said I would never help another black person and I was told to rethink using such a broad brush. Which I did even though I have had six years of experience being white in the hood. I hate thinking of myself as a racist. But I cannot tell who is a good black person and who is not. I don't have the radar for the black con the way I have an instinct for bad white people.

So I have been preparing for the big trip to Texas--getting my car fixed in all ways which was a couple of thousand dollars but I had chosen to keep the old car in good repair rather than a newer used car I knew nothing about. I cannot afford a new one period.

I always feel watched in my neighborhood. They see me packing a lugging things to the garage. They see me packing up the car. At 68 I am slow. So the day before I am to leave this reasonably young black woman comes pounding on my door and crying her mother has collapsed and been taken to Centinnela hospital and could I please take her there and she will pay me 20 dollars etc. I decide this will kill two birds with one stone and I will drop her off and go to the 99 cent store and pick up ice and stuff for the trip. To make a long story shorter, she is directing me heither and yon and I am getting fed up. She has me drop her off at a school. What I don't realize is that while I turned my back to pick up my purse and things and she is standing in the doorway, she steals my extra car key and while we are in the car she asks for stuff which I say no and gages my reaction to her trying to reach things in the back seat. I have left the front seat vacant for the cat. I drop her off and go in the house to fix the stuff to leave for the trip. She uses the key to get in the car and takes my purse with 1900 dollars in it and my cell phone. My car has a computer key and I had just bought a second one to the tune of 125 dollars and I am not used to having it and so placed it by the door so I would not forget it. I wanted to buy a magnetic box to put it in--not in my purse. My car is so safe electronically that I feel it is safer than the house and why I left my purse in it.

So I am confronted with no money for the trip and she has my car key and can steal the car. I already know the police in LA will really do nothing. Their big money is made confiscating cars and auctioning them and crime of the poor on the poor holds no interest for them. So I decide to take the money that will pay the bills for September and go to Texas anyway and see if this is a fantasy or not.

While I was gone, whoever had my phone which was brand new and paid through November, called one of my friends three times. I did enough good on the trip to Texas that I was able to let it all go and just deal with the next steps. Sunday at 8PM I am sleeping on my couch with the windows and doors open but barred because it has been over a 100 for days and I am still recovering from the trip.

This woman bangs on my door. I turn on the light and I see it is the same woman who pulled the con and got my car key etc. As soon as I turn on the light she covers her face and asks me to turn out the light as it hurts her eyes. I am keeping the door closed. She starts on some tupper ware song and dance and I wonder what she is doing and I am acting disoriented from being woke up. And I know she thinks I am an easy mark now. Short story she offers me a silver colored medallion with a prayer on it for my key chain. I am interested in taking it to get her finger prints. I open the door to let my hand only out to receive it and she pulls it open and pepper sprays me in the face. I now know or feel this is a fight to the death--mine. The steel door is behind me and even though I am blind and in huge pain I push her out and try slamming the steel door closed. We are fighting back and forth with her trying to get in and me keeping her out. I cannot lock the door, she is preventing it somehow and I cannot keep it closed tightly. Things are breaking everywhere. I am spitting this stuff out of my mouth and I am finally able to start screaming and I am bellowing because I can hardly speak now. The screaming causes her to leave. I have no phone. None of my neighbors are home. I am running up and down the street blind screaming for someone to call 911.

When the EMTs come my blood pressure is 148 over 88 which is not bad for what I have done. There is a part of me that is proud that I beat her but I realize that she thought the pepper spray would do me in and I am not sure what she thought she would do after that. Was she prepared to beat me to death for stuff. She did feel the full fury of my will which I think she thought not possible. What she did get this time was my key chain with all my keys on it. Some of my black friends came and got me that night and drove my car off.

My black friends think this is a junkie and my white friends think this is all about the law suit and too coincidental. Because someone tried to kill me once over money and for a law suit. I have been preparing for this for a year which is why I have the downtown office in LA and there is no paper trail to it. I have told the management here the story and they have allowed me to be late on the rent for a month. I am being very careful about everything.

I have much to say about the daily hammers and I am aware that I am not the only person experiencing them. This thread has its place especially for me. I intend to tell about all these hammers and get advice. I think people need to read about those who are really slamming it out, spirituality comes in many forms of not giving into ego, stupidity, cons etc. It is saying I made a mistake and there but for the grace of god go I.


Several of the writers I've known have lives like that. At first I had no idea why they skidded from crisis to crisis, until one day the voice of God explained it to me.
"They are manifesting material to write about."
They were also manifesting me to be their savior.
One of them was living in flea-infested place and ended up using my chic apartment to write his column.
His job was to destabilize world famous rockstars who craved the publicity he provided them with, yet dreaded inviting him back to their mansions.
I would come home from work and find dirty peanut butter crusted knives and yoghurt pots littering the place.
Once he made some major mishap and left me a note with the excuse that his mother had died...
which a day later turned out to be a lie, I stopped the relationship. He went on to become a 'legendary" writer.

[modwiz]

This thread could have its own mascot...
Choice is between hamster and squirrel.
Hammy the hamster is my choice.

http://www.google.com/search?q=hammy+the+hamster&hl=en&client=safari&sa=X&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&ei=GEhYUK9jptXSAbSjgcgB&ved=0CHsQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=673

I just heard from Richard Gere and he gives a big thumbs uo for the hamster idea. :p

Urban legend which has nothing to do with hamsters.

My bad. Gerbils. I am sure of the urban legend part. Total bullsh!t can be useful for desperate attempts at bad humor.

[Rocky_Shorz]

walks in, puts a watermelon on a chair, grabs Gallagher's Mallet and smashes it into a billion bits spraying everyone in the room...


it was that or a banker... ;)


http://weeklyworldnews.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/gallagherd.jpg


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[CD7]

Especially on a forum which deals with fringe issues.

Hey, maybe this thread should be given a new name?
The Blurred Line.

That could appease Fred and Anchor and PurpleLama sufficiently to bring them back?



LOL!!! Yes.....uh ummmmm (clears throat) INTROducing.....dadadadadadda...... THE BLURRRED LINE



Yes good to me..this thread has blurred into many different areas just within 24 hours hahahahahaha.....AND GUESS WHAT...i dont know who the hell 9eagle9 is!!!!

[write4change]

Wow! Ulli. You put up the hammer thread which looks to me like an invitation to include the other side. I read your what's happening thread but don't post because I don't feel its appropriate. Then I get hammered for being hammered? And the sly question about if this even true? What's with that?

For the moment you sound like Romney. You have a beautiful life and I am glad you were able to manifest that for yourself but you judgment feels like prosperity christianity. If you are having problems it is something your are attracting etc. You choose to die etc. I am always divided within myself about these issues because there is an element of truth in both sides. I work very hard to discern for myself some with more success than others. But I rarely go there for others, especially in this format, which is hardly condusive to the whole picture.

When I was practicing as a nurse in oncology, I saw a lot of people live who should have died and vice versa. During this trip I had a lot of people say they thought I was about 55, and it counted for something because they were complete strangers. I have never had complete certainty of who I see in the mirror. I am not sure I have had certainty of anything. As a nurse, I could never say to someone you are choosing to die but it may not be conscious to you, and yet, it sometimes felt that way. But I am not in that body nor that soul and I can never know that experience. I have to allow it to be, and yet, I believe there is a reason for everything and there is an intelligence to this universe that is beyond my or anyone else's comprehension.

Essentially, I function like life is just a big game. Never take it or myself too seriously. Play to win but how I play the game is everything.

[ulli]

Wow! Ulli. You put up the hammer thread which looks to me like an invitation to include the other side. I read your what's happening thread but don't post because I don't feel its appropriate. Then I get hammered for being hammered? And the sly question about if this even true? What's with that?

For the moment you sound like Romney. You have a beautiful life and I am glad you were able to manifest that for yourself but you judgment feels like prosperity christianity. If you are having problems it is something your are attracting etc. You choose to die etc. I am always divided within myself about these issues because there is an element of truth in both sides. I work very hard to discern for myself some with more success than others. But I rarely go there for others, especially in this format, which is hardly condusive to the whole picture.

When I was practicing as a nurse in oncology, I saw a lot of people live who should have died and vice versa. During this trip I had a lot of people say they thought I was about 55, and it counted for something because they were complete strangers. I have never had complete certainty of who I see in the mirror. I am not sure I have had certainty of anything. As a nurse, I could never say to someone you are choosing to die but it may not be conscious to you, and yet, it sometimes felt that way. But I am not in that body nor that soul and I can never know that experience. I have to allow it to be, and yet, I believe there is a reason for everything and there is an intelligence to this universe that is beyond my or anyone else's comprehension.

Essentially, I function like life is just a big game. Never take it or myself too seriously. Play to win but how I play the game is everything.

It's just my alter ego that's all. There is a part of me that wants to cut to the essence of any given matter...

But you gave your answer...you take life as a big game.
and this is where we differ.
I started to take life seriously when I discovered how painful it could be.
I also avoid duality party politics like the plague.

[write4change]

I said I function like life is a big game. When my daughter died at 13 and ten months, I was in such in expressable pain that I became a recluse for ten years. I am so aware of pain that I try not to jump off on any one for anything so I cause no more of it. Or if what I say will inflict pain was it worth the price.

Modwiz recently did and shared some self reflection on the quick and clever response which can be very hibituating. It is something I wish this whole forum would reflect on.

[Swan]

Removing this since it is not helpful.

[modwiz]

I wish my almost 16 year old son was as helpful and supportive with me as her (9eagles) 16 year old daughter is of her. These two say, "I love you" at least once a day to each other. Simply put, 9eagle is a very kind and giving person.

I will say that I did not raise my son.

IMHO it is the parents job to give support to the child. Not the other way around.

Very good.

[write4change]

Hey W4C, yeh you made a mistake alright, getting caught up in the same kind of con that got you the last time you posted about this kind of circumstance, someone coming to your door with a hard-luck story. I submit that if you lived in a poor white neighborhood with a lot of meth and crack fiends around, you would still be approached by people trying to con you. I submit, again, that it is not race, but economic circumstance. Fiends seem to have a "6th sense" for what they call marks. They can see if you have a kind soul in your eyes, demeanor and of course they can hear it in your voice.

Your fighting back in this instance is so commendable and yet such a shame that you would even have to do it. I'm glad you're ok. I would recommend you watching the eyes next time anybody gives you a hard-luck story. Watch the eyes and watch the demeanor, are they shuffling around, hands always busy? This will be the same no matter the race of the perpetrator.

You mentioned a law-suit above, is it against the city or the property-owner? It would not be totally out of bounds for either to send folks to 'scare' you but if you were leaving (for good or not) that makes little sense, as breaking in and destroying your home would have resulted in an easier and more effective way of scaring you than sending someone to either succeed or fail in "tricking" you into falling for their hard-luck story.

You brought the hammer down. Blessings, and hope you're still able to go on your trip.

Rahkyt,

Thanks for your blessings. I did the trip and now I am recovering.

The Lawsuit:

A year ago I was notified by the tax board that I owed them thousands of dollars for not paying taxes on money I was recieving. Turns out my husband's partner had embezzeled almost a million dollars from me in the last ten years. He got caught that he was so greedy that he did not want to pay taxes on the money he kept. I have spent a year getting information because I did a law suit ten years ago and I learn from my mistakes. One of the things I learned is that you do all the research on the case and essentially know it and understand it before you start. Your lawyer is in it for the money not justice for you. He makes money by doing things or not doing things that may or may not be in your interest. Failing to understand that the lawyer works for you and follows your instructions, has you both at cross purposes. Preparing the case and taking it to a lawyer --- you decide by his response to the case you lay out whether or not you want to hire him. This is a RICO, financial case, and has to be on contingency and one of the things I decided is to take 25 to 40% of whatever I recover to the lawyer. The bigger the firm supposedly the more powerful but they will get 40%, they will get paid no matter what and they have no incentive to finish this thing which at 68 is an issue.

Now you could say the universe handed me this thing so I could be hammered for some karma or maybe the universe chose someone so strong and so tenacious that a fight for justice could be observed. One of the other things I will do is try to sell this story to one of the columnists of the LA Times. I am not capable of writing this well enough but it is an illustration of what has happened to this country when fraud has become a legitimate business function and the indifference to it if it is not your personal problems part of the reason the country is collapsing.

[Swan]

The part about you wishing your son would support you.

Actually, I had just decided to remove the post, since it is probably not helpful. And it was probably triggered by my own buttons, growing up with a father at a distance.

[write4change]

The part about you wishing your son would support you.

Actually, I had just decided to remove the post, since it is probably not helpful. And it was probably triggered by my own buttons, growing up with a father at a distance.

Thank you for doing a reflective post that indicates you think about the why and how of your responses. And I think sharing that honestly is a big deal and I appreciate your doing it.

[ulli]

Hey W4C, yeh you made a mistake alright, getting caught up in the same kind of con that got you the last time you posted about this kind of circumstance, someone coming to your door with a hard-luck story. I submit that if you lived in a poor white neighborhood with a lot of meth and crack fiends around, you would still be approached by people trying to con you. I submit, again, that it is not race, but economic circumstance. Fiends seem to have a "6th sense" for what they call marks. They can see if you have a kind soul in your eyes, demeanor and of course they can hear it in your voice.

Your fighting back in this instance is so commendable and yet such a shame that you would even have to do it. I'm glad you're ok. I would recommend you watching the eyes next time anybody gives you a hard-luck story. Watch the eyes and watch the demeanor, are they shuffling around, hands always busy? This will be the same no matter the race of the perpetrator.

You mentioned a law-suit above, is it against the city or the property-owner? It would not be totally out of bounds for either to send folks to 'scare' you but if you were leaving (for good or not) that makes little sense, as breaking in and destroying your home would have resulted in an easier and more effective way of scaring you than sending someone to either succeed or fail in "tricking" you into falling for their hard-luck story.

You brought the hammer down. Blessings, and hope you're still able to go on your trip.

Rahkyt,

Thanks for your blessings. I did the trip and now I am recovering.

The Lawsuit:

A year ago I was notified by the tax board that I owed them thousands of dollars for not paying taxes on money I was recieving. Turns out my husband's partner had embezzeled almost a million dollars from me in the last ten years. He got caught that he was so greedy that he did not want to pay taxes on the money he kept. I have spent a year getting information because I did a law suit ten years ago and I learn from my mistakes. One of the things I learned is that you do all the research on the case and essentially know it and understand it before you start. Your lawyer is in it for the money not justice for you. He makes money by doing things or not doing things that may or may not be in your interest. Failing to understand that the lawyer works for you and follows your instructions, has you both at cross purposes. Preparing the case and taking it to a lawyer --- you decide by his response to the case you lay out whether or not you want to hire him. This is a RICO, financial case, and has to be on contingency and one of the things I decided is to take 25 to 40% of whatever I recover to the lawyer. The bigger the firm supposedly the more powerful but they will get 40%, they will get paid no matter what and they have no incentive to finish this thing which at 68 is an issue.

Now you could say the universe handed me this thing so I could be hammered for some karma or maybe the universe chose someone so strong and so tenacious that a fight for justice could be observed. One of the other things I will do is try to sell this story to one of the columnists of the LA Times. I am not capable of writing this well enough but it is an illustration of what has happened to this country when fraud has become a legitimate business function and the indifference to it if it is not your personal problems part of the reason the country is collapsing.

You just summed up the dilemma between living the life of the mystic and maintaining a relationship with higher reality,
or living the life of the revolutionary who wants to make the world a better place.
I thought I had found the answer but then it slipped away again.
It keeps doing that, somehow.
One thing I learnt from the Bahai teachings, though:
"Avoid anger, as thou wouldst a lion."
So I take the issues as far as I can, doing my best,
learning from mistakes, then leave the rest to the higher powers.
Explaining that to others often makes them annoyed and they start calling me names.
I'm here to learn not to let that faze me.

[another bob]

One thing I learnt from the Bahai teachings, though:
"Avoid anger, as thou wouldst a lion."
So I take the issues as far as I can, doing my best,
learning from mistakes, then leave the rest to the higher powers.
Explaining that to others often makes them annoyed and they start calling me names.
I'm here to learn not to let that faze me.

http://i46.tinypic.com/kbp2u0.jpg

[write4change]

AA expresses it as drinking poison hopping the other person will die.

[araucaria]

Ulli, post #93: "They are manifesting material to write about."

Sure, but I find writing material to manifest is much more interesting :)

[modwiz]

The part about you wishing your son would support you.

Actually, I had just decided to remove the post, since it is probably not helpful. And it was probably triggered by my own buttons, growing up with a father at a distance.

My language usage was not a clear as it might have been. I was indicating the mutual support that I saw in action. My son has an excuse for any request made of him. He is a poor team player. A good son with some current bad habits. Addictive game playing is one of them. Since I did not raise him, his mother moved away with him when he was 5 months old, it is a little uncomfortable for me to say anything. I do not wish to criticize his mother. We all do what we think is right. It is the hindsight that is so much better. LOL

[ulli]

Ulli, post #93: "They are manifesting material to write about."

Sure, but I find writing material to manifest is much more interesting :)

One day you will tell me how you discovered this, because it is true.
Life-changing and empowering breakthrough for me.
After I discovered that's how everything works once the inner life is integrated
I started meeting others who could do it, too.
Actually, Avalon is full of such people which is why I'm still here.
Never a dull moment.

[Beren]

I'm sorry Ulli, I am trying to dredge up something to complain about, but the only thing that comes up at the moment is some bearded guy hanging around in the background, with a falcon on his arm and a big grin on his mug, saying, "All is well."

:yo:


Well I am frustrated :madgrin: here for no one remembered this gem...
If this counts me in then what a heck!

JVYccHAG6gk

[music]

Not to piss off the OBVIOUS CLIQUE within the Avalon forum. And they know who they are too.... :)

Who the clique are is not clicking with me. I guess I am with the oblivious clique. LOL

go to the top of the class

[modwiz]

Not to piss off the OBVIOUS CLIQUE within the Avalon forum. And they know who they are too.... :)

Who the clique are is not clicking with me. I guess I am with the oblivious clique. LOL

go to the top of the class

Thanks, professor. :thumb:

[music]

Here is a place to express all that pent-up #$%.
It's rant time.
Music came up with the expression and I grabbed that ball and am running with it.
All in honor of 9eagle9. (She'll be BAACK, I promise)


I have to ask ulli. Music's expression was most certainly an insult, and directed squarely at 9eagle9. So unless I'm mistaken, which I hope I am, this thread title strikes me more as sticking pins in a 9eagle9 voodoo doll, not actually honoring her. Am I way off base here?

Cheers,
Fred

I know you know this Fred, but ... my role is to speak my truth, how other people deal with that has absolutely zero to do with me. My words were ...


Toughness is a tool to be employed rarely as deemed necessary by the individual heart, not the daily hammer with which we pound home whatever version of reality we think is the right one.

This is not an insult, merely how it is. It could, however, be taken as an insult, it could be taken as a finger pointing at deficiencies in my own awareness, or it could be taken as an invitation to effect positive change within. There is no judgement, which ever way the comment is taken is all the same to me.

[music]

There is not a shred of objective evidence found in any personal testimony.

Most of the discussions in the 'General Discussion' Forum were intended to be objective in content. That forum was provided to discuss 'real' evidence and present such.


'REAL EVIDENCE'---- objective observations by a human that writes the 'observation' in a document/report/printed in a book............................Whos to say whether this human who takes 'physical' evidence and EXPRESSES his/her spin on it is any more valid?

To me the lines are blurred if one really breaks it down its--- HUMANS expressing what they experience and see..whether its been published in a book or spoken by the tongue, VALIDITY is ANYONES GUESS SERIOUSLY


It takes ALL of our observations COMBINED to add weight to a subject----------------THOSE WHO ARE MAKING THINGS UP KNOW WHO THEY ARE


I mean this as a serious debate...i think its difficult to draw the lines of whats valid and what isnt?

Great to read this hot on the heels of Rahkt's "I wanna bring the hammer on those who are always preaching scientific objectivity".

There is no truth to be found in a physical reality. What we have here (besides a failure to communicate) are hypotheses that are yet to be unproved. Any scientist who does not concur with that remark is a pretend scientist. That's just the way it is. Proof is for those who fear.

By the way, smash the TV - it will feel great.

[Hervé]

This is completely, utterly hilarious but I could swear I just read 9eagle9 typing through someone else's fingers...

Extreme case of the story about straws and beams sticking out of eyes.

[music]

I really couldn't muster the energy to reply to purple lamas comment, but I must say, you have done a most excellent job. Nobody hates the eagle here, except, I would dare say, herself. Attacking others and being verbosely profligate with one's opinions are the classic signs of a lack of self love.

A warning - Magic 101 - anyone who attempts ANY kind of energetic manipulation will get bitten on the arse unless their intent is pure and selfless. You may still get teeth in your cheeks if that is the best outcome for you.




Try sticking a pin in a 9e9 voo doo doll, and it will wind up planted squarely in your own rear end, mark my words, Fred. No one with any sense would think of doing such a thing in 9's direction! *coughcoughmusiccough*

You've got to be kidding!
Why would anyone allow her to take such power over them.
You need to go back to school and learn how to defend yourself
on multidimensinal levels
and any other plane you hang out in.

(and please take the work 'you' in a nonpersonal way, Im talking to those she got the best of or tried to get the best of though her beligigerance)

9e9 met her limit here. She got canned. she has anger that she is not dealing with. she projects her anger on others to no great avail.
If you got trapped in her anger web, you can ignore her, you can react with anger, you can react with feelings of low self esteem, guilt, shame, you can react with centered consciousness...
but her mode of operation turned into anger . Shes got deep issues she hasn't resolved

she thinks shes got to take a hammer to people to wake them up
but that is a abusive approach
she doesnt know how to make any other approach effective.

and her attachments to outcome rule her.. she has to have you see it her way
cause she beleives her way is the only right way, which of courese makes you wrong,
your experience wrong, your path of learing wrong, your whole existence based on wrongness.

So she gets pissed off and takes out her hammer and slams you.

Did it feel good? Did it help? Did you learn? Are you healed?
are you transformed?


Its like an abusive parent who kicks a kid because he doesnt really know how to love a kid, teach a kid, allow a kid to 'be' into its own evolution.

Voodoo only works on those who are not energetically evovled and who dont have their chakra system working in unison.
She couldnt touch me with a 10 foot pole.

Dont get me wrong, 9e9, she's a very smart lady.. quick with words, can weave a tale, a good talker...
but the person she's been hurting most is herself for she feels self justified to be angry and to project it out to the world
to teach em all.

Good greif, Thank god some where were bright enough to try to call her on it or I would have lost all hope for this forum.

I never did confront her on the treads she took over. I did warn her once that her anger would get the best of her but she came back to me with a defence for her abusiveness.
Oh well. It was a battle I had no interest in really, at least to get involved in the heat of it. This is for those who felt she took liberties in their direction, either collectively or personally.

[music]

I hope you checked your own eye before posting that, because in my experience, people who use that expression often don't, but should have.



This is completely, utterly hilarious but I could swear I just read 9eagle9 typing through someone else's fingers...

Extreme case of the story about straws and beams sticking out of eyes.

[music]

This thread could have its own mascot...
Choice is between hamster and squirrel.
Hammy the hamster is my choice.

http://www.google.com/search?q=hammy+the+hamster&hl=en&client=safari&sa=X&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&ei=GEhYUK9jptXSAbSjgcgB&ved=0CHsQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=673

I just heard from Richard Gere and he gives a big thumbs up for the hamster idea. :p

Ah, so that's how he got it out!

[Tangri]

Not to piss off the OBVIOUS CLIQUE within the Avalon forum. And they know who they are too.... :)

Who the clique are is not clicking with me. I guess I am with the oblivious clique. LOL

Paranoia? or feeling of Guilt (collective or /and personal)?

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2007/11/27/5-tips-for-dealing-with-guilt/

I specially recommend 3rd one

One question, Levent tonga.
Hope you don't mind.

If one is oblivious, how then can one feel guilt?

He was guessing then there is some kind of awareness. If you are oblivious at something you can not guess, The guessing needs a clue, or clues. Clues might contain anything (even feelings.)

[Flash]

I said I function like life is a big game. When my daughter died at 13 and ten months, I was in such in expressable pain that I became a recluse for ten years. I am so aware of pain that I try not to jump off on any one for anything so I cause no more of it. Or if what I say will inflict pain was it worth the price.

Modwiz recently did and shared some self reflection on the quick and clever response which can be very hibituating. It is something I wish this whole forum would reflect on.

I am truly sorry for the pain of the loss write4change, truly. I cannot even try to imagine how it felt for those 10 years. And surely how it still feel sometimes.

As for the thief, you can also see it from another angle: maybe you are paying back karma, maybe you were the thief in another life, in which case it is balancing out. If not, maybe there is only a bit of naivity subsiding in you, which, in other circumstance is not bad, on the contrary, it could be rather refreshing.

One day, a woman in her thirties, well dressed and clean, bang my door at eleven PM and tell me a whole story about her son being in an accident and her having to get to the hospital right away to see him, could she borrow 20$ (a hit is $20, see). I hesitated and told myself that if the story was true, I would not forgive myself for not giving. However, she never set foot pass the entrance, since I know how fast junkies can be (in case she was). I was also checking futher in the street to make sure she would not have accomplices that would jump on me. Finally gave her the 20 and went to sleep. One month later, the same woman bang on my door again and starts the same story again. I told her, that this times it does not work, doesn't she remember being here with the same story a month ago. Told her that if I see her around I would call the police and my friends on her. Never saw her again. So you see, you are not the only one who is naive, the only difference is in degree - I am bits more paranoi than you.

I got a phone call lately from the credit card company telling me how to consolidate my debts if I wish with a lower rate. The guy was sooooooooo good that I almost got caught. But you see, I am an expert in call centers management (truly) and all of a sudden a shiver went through me and I started to ask questions, simple ones, easy to answer, leading towards the trap i was setting. Even answering the question he was good. He ended up hanging up when I ask for his supervisor and he told me he was the supervisor, which I contested giving him the descriptions of the center he was calling from. Furthermore, credit cards do not call their customers, ever, to avoid scam artists on their customers.

You see, most people will get caught with such a crafty thief organisation. Their training is just extraordinary (and you haven't seen Gypsies in Turley.. oh la la, those are good).

I have lots of stories like this I could write, all more yeurky from one another (those above are the light ones). And i do not write for living or pleasure, so this is unrelated in my view.

I would rather think that is related to someone not taking excellent care of herself, being still in emotional turmoil, which turmoil cannot stop because then the pain comes back paralysing oneself. So we rather fight to feel alive instead of in pain. At least, in my case,this is how it works.

But surprise surprise, the unresolved pain and emotional upheaval get at you at some point, to be resolved and worked on.

Of course, write4change, this is all different for each one of us. My last comments are a wild guess taken from my own experience.

[Hervé]

Apply your own medicine.


[...]... my role is to speak my truth, how other people deal with that has absolutely zero to do with me.

[...] There is no judgement, which ever way the comment is taken is all the same to me.

[ulli]

Great hammering, everyone.
It feels like I'm running a chain gang here.
What I want to aim for is to discern the tone of the intent behind all those clonking noises.

[Rocky_Shorz]

18282
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=18282
each time I swing the mallet, a different elite appears smiling at me...

should have the train track finished in about 15 mins... :madgrin:


whistles innocently and disappears...

[Ontarioguy]

Hehehe..I suspect the tone of the intent behind any audible sound sound I create, if it came to that, would be rather easy to discern! Then again it depends on the one doing the discerning, hahaha.
Whhhhhoooooooooo Yeahhhhhhh babyyyy!!
Ahhhh well.... Peace to all!!!!!!!
P.S. Almost kinda FUN this thread is!!

[ulli]

Hehehe..I suspect the tone of the intent behind any audible sound sound I create, if it came to that, would be rather easy to discern! Then again it depends on the one doing the discerning, hahaha.
Whhhhhoooooooooo Yeahhhhhhh babyyyy!!
Ahhhh well.... Peace to all!!!!!!!
P.S. Almost kinda FUN this thread is!!

What do you mean by ALMOST???
Surely you can shift it to 100%?

[write4change]

Flash,

Thanks for the acceptance and understanding. It may be all of that and more. I do know while I did not stop believing in the reality of the good and purpose of the universe, I was angry at it for ten years. The universe had stepped in and saved my life and refused to do so for my daughter. What broke the anger was love and it wasn't near as much about feeling loved as being able to love again. It is the ability to love that is the wind beneath my wings. Having been without for ten years, I know how important it is and I wish never to give up that power of me again. It is from going into the deep darkness of me and making peace with it that has allowed me to have this final incarnation. I could drive across the country with little money and alone because I believe the universe has a purpose for my life and nothing will happen to me until justice is served.

9eagle9 is a complexity of paradoxes. I have always seen the painbody of her anger. Lately, its intensity has increased as has her paradoxes. I have spent weeks considering if I should discuss my relationship with her or not. It will stir pain. Does the truth as I know it need to be said inspite of the pain. I keep looking for a sign. I thought she would come back and I would respond by her lead. Since that has not happened, I have no lead yet. What I know for sure is that all the power, discomfort, and disunity come from ego. Ego on a spiritual site is an intense as any place else on this planet. Now that seems normal, in my beginning here, it was quite a surprise. Because I thought awakened beings were always compassionate even to themselves. Now I have no certainity of definition of awakened nor the reality of its supposed belief systems. It is now all more grist for the mill. For now I have ground mostly in my mind rather than my pen.

Again my appreciation for your taking the time to talk to me. Thank you.

[Rocky_Shorz]

your pain honestly has nothing to do with your ego, and Eagles was from sharing her energy with so many others she was trying to heal...

no, your pain is your past, I've been knocked to my knees so understand it...

let me just say, that she is ok, a day in Heaven is a year on earth, she will spend a month or two without you, then be re-united as if it was yesterday...

forgiveness comes from within, along with healing... let it go...

she is giving you all the healing light that you need... It comes from her smile, and her heart...

[DeDukshyn]

Ha! a funny thread. I can't believe you actually started it ;) Ok I will vent here about ... myself ;)

Dedukshyn, you are an arrogant, know-it-all prick!!

Ahhh ... that feels better ;)

[Ontarioguy]

:fencing: LETS PARTY!

[ulli]

Ha! a funny thread. I can't believe you actually started it ;) Ok I will vent here about ... myself ;)

Dedukshyn, you are an arrogant, know-it-all prick!!

Ahhh ... that feels better ;)

Oh dear. Don't get me started.

What would I be doing if I didn't have this forum?
Even if I was weeding the garden I would still be thinking about starting another thread...

Like, go through a tool box.

The Daily Drill....
Where everyone can practice being the kind of person they expect others to be.
To see which is truer: "like attracts like", or "opposites attract"
Until they see that it is indeed all connected. No longer will whiners then attract whiners, or winos attract winos.
Jesters will not attract jesters nor will psychos attract psychos.

But sane healthy people who will show their best features, self effacing, humble, yet dignified... trustworthy and loving...and all learn to live together as one.

[DeDukshyn]

Ha! a funny thread. I can't believe you actually started it ;) Ok I will vent here about ... myself ;)

Dedukshyn, you are an arrogant, know-it-all prick!!

Ahhh ... that feels better ;)

Oh dear. Don't get me started.

What would I be doing if I didn't have this forum?
Even if I was weeding the garden I would still be thinking about starting another thread...

Like, go through a tool box.

The Daily Drill....
Where everyone can practice being the kind of person they expect others to be.
To see which is truer: "like attracts like", or "opposites attract"
Until they see that it is indeed all connected. No longer will whiners then attract whiners, or winos attract winos.
Jesters will not attract jesters nor will psychos attract psychos.

But sane healthy people who will show their best features, self effacing, humble, yet dignified... trustworthy and loving...and all learn to live together as one.

Brilliant! And to judge my own post by this -- I still have self reflection! (and expect others to have the same) ;) ;) ;)

[DeDukshyn]

18282
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=18282
each time I swing the mallet, a different elite appears smiling at me...

should have the train track finished in about 15 mins... :madgrin:


whistles innocently and disappears...

I didn't know you had a mustache .... and the Monopoly guy -- while annoying, isn't the "real" enemy ;) ;) ;) All that aside, I say don't bother with the railroads -- go straight for Boardwalk .. Or maybe the electric company?? ;) ;) Maybe the electric company first, then the railroads ... ?

[Ontarioguy]

Ha! a funny thread. I can't believe you actually started it ;) Ok I will vent here about ... myself ;)

Dedukshyn, you are an arrogant, know-it-all prick!!

Ahhh ... that feels better ;)

Oh dear. Don't get me started.

What would I be doing if I didn't have this forum?
Even if I was weeding the garden I would still be thinking about starting another thread...

Like, go through a tool box.

The Daily Drill....
Where everyone can practice being the kind of person they expect others to be.
To see which is truer: "like attracts like", or "opposites attract"
Until they see that it is indeed all connected. No longer will whiners then attract whiners, or winos attract winos.
Jesters will not attract jesters nor will psychos attract psychos.

But sane healthy people who will show their best features, self effacing, humble, yet dignified... trustworthy and loving...and all learn to live together as one.

WOW, Very well put Ulli !! I like...yup.

[Chester]

WOW! I cannot believe Ulli actually made the thread! And worse, I retire in just 2 hours!

Man do I have bad timing or what? Un freaking real... Where's Observer??? tick tock tick tock

And to think I have to go hang with another bob and pi'n'eal and Sebastian now. un be liev able. :eek:

Chester

[Carmody]

Ahh..and to think I was so good a this sort of thing at one time.....that on one forum a seemingly very real death threat was uttered at me. I'm pretty darned far away from that these days.

[another bob]

WOW! I cannot believe Ulli actually made the thread! And worse, I retire in just 2 hours!

Man do I have bad timing or what? Un freaking real... Where's Observer??? tick tock tick tock

And to think I have to go hang with another bob and pi'n'eal and Sebastian now. un be liev able. :eek:

Chester


Ah, the high price for "gnosis" . . . :boink:

Congratulations on your retirement, Brother -- may you use your new leisure time skillfully!

:yo:

[music]

Apply your own medicine.


[...]... my role is to speak my truth, how other people deal with that has absolutely zero to do with me.

[...] There is no judgement, which ever way the comment is taken is all the same to me.

What you said has no effect on me, and I am secure enough not to care what you (or anyone) thinks of me. My comment was for your benefit. Anyway, what about those Habs?

[Arrowwind]

she is giving you all the healing light that you need... It comes from her smile, and her heart...

I wonder how it would have been if she projected her smile and her heart with kindness into all her words to the people here.
Somehow she decided that this path would not be effective or worthy of her time.
I do hope that she finds that light within herself, and comes back and shares it.
She is a great story teller.

[ulli]

she is giving you all the healing light that you need... It comes from her smile, and her heart...

I wonder how it would have been if she projected her smile and her heart with kindness into all her words to the people here.
Somehow she decided that this path would not be effective or worthy of her time.
I do hope that she finds that light within herself, and comes back and shares it.
She is a great story teller.


Everything depends on the self-image we carry. This can be a real trap.
Spiritual development takes one past those fixations...such as "don't be a wimp, be strong!"
But who am I to judge where another is at? Even the use of the word fixation...some people hammer away for weeks, and it is the right amount for the task, and others for a few minutes, and it is too long.
Only Father Time will tell.
I haven't commented much on 9eagle, as I really can't know what is going on with another person.
My response or lack thereof is based on how I manage my own business, and how I wish to invest my time.
I found her posts too long to read, as my attention span was challenged beyond my capacity. What made it even harder for me was that there were errors in her posts, exaggerations, generalizations, and statements which required specific responses which I could not make th time to clarify. I think I tried once, but got back an overly emotive knee-jerk response which had nothing to do with my statement, so I dropped the matter.
Where I direct my energy is my choice, ultimately, and based on my personal agenda.
This is true for everyone else, but many people are not yet conscious of what their own agenda is about.
I think 9eagle was/ is in the process of learning, and I wish her luck. The enemy is chaos, confusion and self-sabotage, coming from quarters inside the self that have not as yet been integrated.
So one has to be diligent.
Each one only has enough energy at their disposal to work on themselves.
As that work nears completion then the energy level increases..exponentially.
Amazing to behold, when that happens....
There, I hammered....

[Beren]

Everyone is of God.
But not everyone is on the same level of conscience thus experience.

There are people who post on Avalon without a clear agenda and others are with precise one and there is a third group who wishes to express themselves in many ways.
This is all legitimate.

Some members tend to judge others if they do not agree to think like them.
Other are fence sitters.
Yet all this is OK.

Only time when ,for me, is a time where someone step on my toes thus requiring my reaction is when someone is directly rude to me or insulting one.
It's upon me to react how I want.
I can be rude aswell but choose not to. I cannot be bothered to low my self on petty quarrels about who said what.
I know that we are above this in our core hence I will not level down my self or others by partaking this cake.

For example there will always be the one who will directly challenge your viewpoint or words. It might be good for you to take this challenge in order to grow in awareness.
Or it may lead you down into the cave.

Depends from originator's energy behind the challenge.

Now I find it amusing when I experience attack upon myself. It's rare and I thank God for this.
I was labeled before as religious freak, nut, stupid , or whatever BUT and I repeat BUT I lived on to see that same ones who were labeling me change their tunes and actually respect me and wanting to be friends.

Why?

I think because in all my replies to temporarily hot heads against me I was polite and well intentioned. I was tough on replies, was wielding a "sword" in replies and some heads were rolling here but it was always in good spirit without intention on my side to insult or hurt anyone.
I thank God for teaching me the value of Love and that who is "attacking" you is your brother or sister.

How can I hate my brothers and sisters?
We can quarrel but at the end of the day Love must prevail.
Why?
Because I want it, because I chose that.

There , I hammered it!

:)

[Arrowwind]

Everything depends on the self-image we carry. This can be a real trap.
Spiritual development takes one past those fixations...such as "don't be a wimp, be strong!" But who am I to judge where another is at?
....

This is part of the issue. Her self image as projected by herself was as shaman and healer. a counselor... you did not really need to judge, at least initially, if you trust for she self stated who she is..and I suspect many take her at her word and have respected the expertise she projected.
so there is some responsibilty to that and what impact your words make, especially towards people who are seeking answers in their self healing. there is no greater karma
that that between healer and those they try to gudie towards their healing. The wall of autonomy is taken down and this creates vulnerablity for the one seeking
healing. If what comes at you from your "healer" or "counselor" is toxic then you really get whammed..... of hammered, as the case may be.

[Arrowwind]

Why?

I think because in all my replies to temporarily hot heads against me I was polite and well intentioned. I was tough on replies, was wielding a "sword" in replies and some heads were rolling here but it was always in good spirit without intention on my side to insult or hurt anyone.
I thank God for teaching me the value of Love and that who is "attacking" you is your brother or sister.

How can I hate my brothers and sisters?
We can quarrel but at the end of the day Love must prevail.
Why?
Because I want it, because I chose that.

There , I hammered it!

:)

Yes, you did.

I would not say that 9e9 hated those she offended. I see it as her mirror of self-reflection.
Anger is not hate but can be felt energetically as equal when directed at you.

[ulli]

Everything depends on the self-image we carry. This can be a real trap.
Spiritual development takes one past those fixations...such as "don't be a wimp, be strong!" But who am I to judge where another is at?
....

This is part of the issue. Her self image as projected by herself was as shaman and healer. a counselor... you did not really need to judge, at least initially, if you trust for she self stated who she is..and I suspect many take her at her word and have respected the expertise she projected.
so there is some responsibilty to that and what impact your words make, especially towards people who are seeking answers in their self healing. there is no greater karma
that that between healer and those they try to gudie towards their healing. The wall of autonomy is taken down and this creates vulnerablity for the one seeking
healing. If what comes at you from your "healer" or "counselor" is toxic then you really get whammed..... of hammered, as the case may be.

I must have developed a protective layer during all those years of running to seers, psychics, shamans, astrologers.
I met more charlatans than good ones.
And that's how it will always be. Competence is rare.

A good one will always respect another person's will and never impose their art by force.
The better they are the more it is on the seeker to find them.
There is no need for advertising, nor announcements of being a shaman.

If someone calls themselves a saint, at that moment they lose all entitlement of sainthood.
However, if someone tells me that they are studying shamanism, that is another matter entirely.
Such a person will get my attention....

[Anchor]

I thank God for teaching me the value of Love and that who is "attacking" you is your brother or sister.

How can I hate my brothers and sisters?
We can quarrel but at the end of the day Love must prevail.
Why?
Because I want it, because I chose that.

There , I hammered it!

:)

Brother Beren,

I love you man!

You are quality.

I think forgot what hate is a while back. Now its a spectrum of between love lots, love less :)

The Karmic Gordian knot that holds this matrix can only be untied when people stop hating and fearing.

How can you forgive that which is hated? It is impossible.

First let go the hate. Then forgive who or whatever it was - also forgive yourself for hating.

Why - because you can.

Why - because you need to.

Who can legitimately reason that hate is necessary in these times of change ?

[spiritwind]

I can't believe nobody has posted this yet. First thing I thought of when I saw the title to this thread.

http://youtu.be/qpCV2wgoxC8

[ulli]

I can't believe nobody has posted this yet. First thing I thought of when I saw the title to this thread.

http://youtu.be/qpCV2wgoxC8

Someone just posted Maxwell's Silver Hammer...a great Beatles song.
Someone called Spiritwind.

The way you expressed that surprise reminded me of when I served on a board where problems were being discussed.
I was always processing the implications really quickly and then volunteered my findings. Offering solutions.
But instead of thinking about those offerings and evaluating them people were busy judging me...for my precociousness, mainly. I was a loud mouth in their eyes.
A few loved me and admired me for being clever.
Most had thought of solutions of their own, but did not share them, preferring to remain silent... as they informed me later.

Meanwhile I was shocked and surprised that the solutions to the problems- which were real problems, I might add, were lost in all the debating of personalities and mutual judgements.

Then I discovered that I myself, was also playing my part in this...
Namely in my surprise and judgement that others had not lived up to my expectations of what proper consultation practice should be like.
See?
This is the bottom line of the human condition....the emotion of expectation.

Reality responds in direct relation to that expectation....
Expect nothing, get everything.
You get what you need.
In this case...
I appreciate your silver hammer.

[Carmody]

To me, it's a good thing that we overall..suck at ranting. For one cannot achieve any form of balance and thus clear thought that leads to advancement of self, unless they have some minimal form of balance in them, from which to begin or continue the process of growing. An inherent part of that process, is not being off balance in communication, which is a form of echoing/reflecting energies.

You can't swim in water, or climb an escalator that is going backward..unless your limbs move in sync.

[another bob]

Everyone is of God....How can I hate my brothers and sisters?


http://i48.tinypic.com/2vbvhir.jpg

[13th Warrior]

Many exchanges happen at this forum from day to day, from my perspective/observation are conversations with Hannibal Lecter.

Ask yourself; are you the Hannibal, Clarice or both?

Q7Y9FtyFKsI

[Arrowwind]

Everyone is of God....How can I hate my brothers and sisters?


http://i48.tinypic.com/2vbvhir.jpg

These words of Buddha in the above are the gist of it all. Seems to me that many people here on Avelon believe this to their very core, even if they may not manage to manifest it perfectly.
So when they are attacked or see others attacked they know they have witnessed the contradiction to their core essence and naturally shrink from it or stand up to it and call it for what it is.

Clearly it is our lack of love and compassion and our inablitiy to hold with our higher aspirations that causes most of our troubles.
We get to the point where we know we dont deserve meanness and abuse
and we no longer accept it as a tool for learning... just as we have left the whip and switch behind
as well as humiliating assaults... the standing in the corner with the dunce hat on...
and here on Avelon so many are striving to get past this, either taking it in or dishing it out.
Most of us have come out of some sort of abusive situation and worked hard to
try to open our hearts and be vulnerable to love again.
When 'love' backhands us it really hurts and reminds us that
a safe place to grow in is hard to find

[ulli]

Many exchanges happen at this forum from day to day, from my perspective/observation are conversations with Hannibal Lecter.

Ask yourself; are you the Hannibal, Clarice or both?

Q7Y9FtyFKsI

Hammibal wants his freedom back, whatever the cost,
And Clarice wants to free the victims out there, whatever the cost...
Yeah...good question.
My answer is....both.

[13th Warrior]

Hammibal wants his freedom back, whatever the cost,
And Clarice wants to free the victims out there, whatever the cost...
Yeah...good question.
My answer is....both.

They are both using each other for their own agendas by using emotional/psychological manipulation.

[A Simple Human]

I want to be your sledgehammer...

Sledgehammer by Peter Gabriel

g93mz_eZ5N4

Now you can all go F#@% yourselves! :biggrin1:

With love,

A.S.H.

[ulli]

To me, it's a good thing that we overall..suck at ranting. For one cannot achieve any form of balance and thus clear thought that leads to advancement of self, unless they have some minimal form of balance in them, from which to begin or continue the process of growing. An inherent part of that process, is not being off balance in communication, which is a form of echoing/reflecting energies.

You can't swim in water, or climb an escalator that is going backward..unless your limbs move in sync.

Nor can you fly if one of your wings were clipped.
But wouldn't you rant against high flyers who rant against those who have no wings?

[Arrowwind]

[But wouldn't you rant against high flyers who rant against those who have no wings?

this is exacly what is going on with the me and the house flies today! ;)

[another bob]

[But wouldn't you rant against high flyers who rant against those who have no wings?

this is exacly what is going on with the me and the house flies today! ;)



http://i45.tinypic.com/xla5jo.jpg

[ulli]

[But wouldn't you rant against high flyers who rant against those who have no wings?

this is exacly what is going on with the me and the house flies today! ;)



http://i45.tinypic.com/xla5jo.jpg

This is where my sense of competition is still alive and well...
measuring their command of the air versus my command of a fly swat.

[another bob]

Expect nothing, get everything.


The Lord will fight for you,
all you need do is be still.

~Exodus 14:14

[modwiz]

Not so many hammers. As Carmody mentioned, it reflects well on us. Seems to be mainly one nail though.

[ulli]

Not so many hammers. As Carmody mentioned, it reflects well on us. Seems to be mainly one nail though.

Here are some more nails...
Externals
Rising food prices.
Corruption in high places
Fake science
Fake education
War mongering
Internals:
Greed
Wrath
Gluttony
Lust
Envy
Pride
Sloth

[benevolentcrow]

Not so many hammers. As Carmody mentioned, it reflects well on us. Seems to be mainly one nail though.

Here are some more nails...
Externals
Rising food prices.
Corruption in high places
Fake science
Fake education
War mongering
Internals:
Greed
Wrath
Gluttony
Lust
Envy
Pride
Sloth
Rising fuel prices
Fake Food
Fake Medicine
Fake People

Just to add a few...

[Craig]

and hair that grows on the top of the nose, not from within but on top of, I mean c'mon, how does it get there?

[judymoon]

Flash,

Thanks for the acceptance and understanding. It may be all of that and more. I do know while I did not stop believing in the reality of the good and purpose of the universe, I was angry at it for ten years. The universe had stepped in and saved my life and refused to do so for my daughter. What broke the anger was love and it wasn't near as much about feeling loved as being able to love again. It is the ability to love that is the wind beneath my wings. Having been without for ten years, I know how important it is and I wish never to give up that power of me again. It is from going into the deep darkness of me and making peace with it that has allowed me to have this final incarnation. I could drive across the country with little money and alone because I believe the universe has a purpose for my life and nothing will happen to me until justice is served.

9eagle9 is a complexity of paradoxes. I have always seen the painbody of her anger. Lately, its intensity has increased as has her paradoxes. I have spent weeks considering if I should discuss my relationship with her or not. It will stir pain. Does the truth as I know it need to be said inspite of the pain. I keep looking for a sign. I thought she would come back and I would respond by her lead. Since that has not happened, I have no lead yet. What I know for sure is that all the power, discomfort, and disunity come from ego. Ego on a spiritual site is an intense as any place else on this planet. Now that seems normal, in my beginning here, it was quite a surprise. Because I thought awakened beings were always compassionate even to themselves. Now I have no certainity of definition of awakened nor the reality of its supposed belief systems. It is now all more grist for the mill. For now I have ground mostly in my mind rather than my pen.

Again my appreciation for your taking the time to talk to me. Thank you.
No offense to anyone (this is the hammer thread after all) but I doubt an Enlightened Being would have any reason to be hanging around an internet forum, even a 'spiritual' one. Even the idea of being a 'spiritual teacher' is pretty much ego based. All of us hanging around this forum are in the process of growing spiritually, with all the bumps and warts that go along with that. If you thought this would be a forum of 'awakened beings (who) were always compassionate" ........I don't know whether to call that naive, or scary. Perhaps you are too Neptunian for your own good....I have read all your posts on this thread and the 9eagle9 thread....and my heart goes out to you for what you have been through. But - sister - you need some serious work done on your bull**** detector.
And.... you write really well, I'll bet you have a book in you.

[judymoon]

Not so many hammers. As Carmody mentioned, it reflects well on us. Seems to be mainly one nail though.
That's because no one has brought up David Wilcock yet......(heh heh)

[amandapoet]

Ok, so I totally feel like the student walking in at the end of the lecture...and getting the gist of it from the other students' discussions / reactions to the lesson...missing some vital points, but still being educated regardless...lol.

This "virtual" meeting ground has more genuine elements of a community than my blue collar town., ;)
As an outsider just getting orientated, I find the response to one member's activity (or lack of) to be very telling of the complex dynamics that make this forum a truly unique gathering within this vast space known as the internet.

And though I may not have been present during past interesting interactions among members....I am sure I will be privy to my own encounters here eventually.

That said there are two rants I take the Hammer to tonite ...
.
1. I must admit that when I get a thread that says read at your own risk...or something similar, like my seven year old, I find the urge irresistable..so if I suddenly start spouting incoherent dogma like messages, you will know why and please I give permission for someone to hold an
intervention...lol.

2. Now this is not related to the forum, but just a complaint I would like to file: A rape victim would not be expected to have visitation with their rapist-- so why do children have to be forced into visitation/ custody arrangements of a parent who has been found guilty of the abuse? Just a topic on my mind tonite, luckily doesn't seem like that will happen to my son, but it does happen...I'd like to take a sledge hammer to that hypocrisy.

Way past my bedtime,
Blessings,
Amanda

[778 neighbour of some guy]

I will say that I did not raise my son.

That is when read in context te bravest sentence in have read in a long time, the honesty and humility in that one brings a tear to my eyes.

Hail.

As far as hammering goes, there is no beef as far as i know of between me or anybody else on this forum, if someone has some with me i dont know, there are probably plenty of people who think i am full of it, very true too, there are reasons for this.

My hammer concerns the vast amount of info that proves to be unreliable bull**** on the forum on wich i contributed as well, no use in saying i dont, the amount and wealth of information on this forum is so immense it is impossible to keep up with and even worse seperating truth from fiction becomes increasingly harder, and i truly wish someone who has the time, knowledge and what have we, makes work out of discerning the **** of everything on the forum and make a sticky post about everything that has remained standing, as a stepping stone to focus our collective attention on and move forward.

And then this, all those supposedly in the know interviewers with knowledge about aliens or schmaliens or whatever else subject, please make an effort to not sound so ffing cassualy bored while conducting your interviews, its sounds arrogant and makes me want to puke, the only point you are making by doing the interviews in that way is making everybody else feel like idiots, reffering to them as sheeple is not respectfull at all, if they had the tools, skills and nerve to take back control of their lives most of them would.

To the people who want to come across as being in the know but are really not................... you are spiritual mass murderers of minds /souls and steal the precious time we do not have to bring about the change the majority of the people on this forum/planet want to see happening in our livetimes.

Dont try to be so ****ing interesting, if your story and the way it is presented is sincere and based on facts it will stick, dont worry, we are not complete idiots all the time, there is hope, unfortunatly information is also dope, so get clean and detox this forum.

[Flash]

One complaint and I am gone: how come some of you can post soooo much. Where do you get the time? Sometimes I think most of you are retired.

Because between work, child, household chores, and some activities outside, I have no more time for threads reading even.. Then some posts would need a lenghty answer, so I give it up, no time. Some members experct a thourough discussion, I give it up too. I just look at the lenght of some posts (Reaver, for example, or even Write4change) or the number of posts and I wonder where all those people get the time.

So, at the risk of looking stupid, I will now on post little less and shorter posts, because I have to work, no time.

How do you all manage?

[Arrowwind]

[But wouldn't you rant against high flyers who rant against those who have no wings?

this is exacly what is going on with the me and the house flies today! ;)



http://i45.tinypic.com/xla5jo.jpg

This is where my sense of competition is still alive and well...
measuring their command of the air versus my command of a fly swat.

Actually I find the vacuum cleaner most proficient at sucking those little bastards up.
I have a whole crawling mess of them in the bag.
They dont even know your coming if you angle things just right.

[ulli]

One complaint and I am gone: how come some of you can post soooo much. Where do you get the time? Sometimes I think most of you are retired.

Because between work, child, household chores, and some activities outside, I have no more time for threads reading even.. Then some posts would need a lenghty answer, so I give it up, no time. Some members experct a thourough discussion, I give it up too. I just look at the lenght of some posts (Reaver, for example, or even Write4change) or the number of posts and I wonder where all those people get the time.

So, at the risk of looking stupid, I will now on post little less and shorter posts, because I have to work, no time.

How do you all manage?

When I have nothing better to do I go online. No kids, little house work. In between posts I still get stuff done, too. Yesterday my husband took the morning off, and we went to the thermal pools nearby for a swim. Home again, showered, dressed, made the bed, posted a bit. Went shopping for a book case for his new office. Did the grocery shopping for the week... longish drive. Bored in the car, so out comes the iPad, tethered to my 3G iPhone, and I check some more posts, and even reply. Afternoon, husband is at work. Phone never rings here, the way it does when I'm in Barbados where I have friends and family. Fact is, it gets lonely here.
Of all my online options Avalon continues to be the most attractive, as I really love the people on it. I have so much in common, with many of them, ideaswise.
So now I live in the outback of Costa Rica, my life is fairly simple, so what better things do I have to do? Even when I get busy with the next construction project there is plenty of free time to go online.
Even if I were to interact more with the locals who live around here, they would not be interested in what I have to offer. They want cash. So whenever we can, we give people jobs, like gardening and construction. Sometimes I make a comment, like yesterday...asked my 33 year old worker if having four kids is still not enough...after all, he has to educate them all one day. He says 'the wife wants more' which is why he is working even longer hours. What can one do? It's their choice. Mine is to post and share the stuff I wish to share with whoever is interested and wants to read it.

[benevolentcrow]

One complaint and I am gone: how come some of you can post soooo much. Where do you get the time? Sometimes I think most of you are retired.

Because between work, child, household chores, and some activities outside, I have no more time for threads reading even.. Then some posts would need a lenghty answer, so I give it up, no time. Some members experct a thourough discussion, I give it up too. I just look at the lenght of some posts (Reaver, for example, or even Write4change) or the number of posts and I wonder where all those people get the time.

So, at the risk of looking stupid, I will now on post little less and shorter posts, because I have to work, no time.

How do you all manage?

When I have nothing better to do I go online. No kids, little house work. In between posts I still get stuff done, too. Yesterday my husband took the morning off, and we went to the thermal pools nearby for a swim. Home again, showered, dressed, made the bed, posted a bit. Went shopping for a book case for his new office. Did the grocery shopping for the week... longish drive. Bored in the car, so out comes the iPad, tethered to my 3G iPhone, and I check some more posts, and even reply. Afternoon, husband is at work. Phone never rings here, the way it does when I'm in Barbados where I have friends and family. Fact is, it gets lonely here.
Of all my online options Avalon continues to be the most attractive, as I really love the people on it. I have so much in common, with many of them, ideaswise.
So now I live in the outback of Costa Rica, my life is fairly simple, so what better things do I have to do? Even when I get busy with the next construction project there is plenty of free time to go online.
Even if I were to interact more with the locals who live around here, they would not be interested in what I have to offer. They want cash. So whenever we can, we give people jobs, like gardening and construction. Sometimes I make a comment, like yesterday...asked my 33 year old worker if having four kids is still not enough...after all, he has to educate them all one day. He says 'the wife wants more' which is why he is working even longer hours. What can one do? It's their choice. Mine is to post and share the stuff I wish to share with whoever is interested and wants to read it.

I for one am glad that you do :)

[Mark]

This thread has developed into something quite interesting and unique.

Taking a look at the world through "jaded eyes" is an exercise in moderation, when accompanied by its opposition, which in this case would be looking at the world through "rose colored glasses". Both, when engaged in equally, result in seeing reality for what it is. Through them both, a state in-between is engaged, wherein conclusions and perceptions can be tendered that result in a moderate and realistic view of what is really going on. I.e., no sugar-coating. Attempting to speak truth, even a relative truth, without prettying it all up for popular consumption.

Most of us are pretty bad at bringing the hammer down if doing so really implies being nasty or lacking compassion. As Carmody and Modwiz said, that does speak well of us as a group.

With that said, I'd like to bring the hammer down on writing and the process of. And, I would submit - and, to cut off all protestations that the designation of "writer" does not apply - ALL who post on forums all the time (you too, Flash LOL) are writers, more or less.

It's soooo egocentric. It hones and develops the personality complex and prevents the person doing it from existing fully in the Now because the writer ALWAYS has to be looking back into the Past or looking forward into the Future in order to document thoughts and experiences. Being a writer is a constant process of recapitulation. Of stultifying what is inherently fluid; life, experience. Taking situations and occurrences and freezing them in words, creating para-realities that, as soon as they are written, become lies because they inadequately represent what no longer Is just by virtue of the act of writing it down.

I've struggled with this in thought a bit, further contributing to my own excessive ego development. And yes, here's a nod to those who have made a firm commitment to living this life and not worrying about evolving spiritually to some ego-less state: to have a strong and well-defined ego is not necessarily a bad thing if one wants to be successful in this life and this world and hey, it's development along a trajectory and wherever we each currently are is fine, so being a writer, writing, engaging in the constant musing, re-hashing and explication serves our current development as it should.

But for those who do seek to exist more in the moment, in the Now, and to do so while still being a writer and documenting thoughts and experiences, the only kind of remedy I've been able to discover that alleviates the potential excessive development of ego is to forego the inordinate recapitulation, contemplating, remembering and imagining, and to write in the Now, let whatever is within come out and only to consider past and future, to ruminate in the flow of the moment and to spend the rest of one's time engaging in the stilling of thought, as recommended by so many traditions, time and the world across.

Is it enough? Who knows. But by definition, whatever we engage in during a life is exactly what we're supposed to be doing, so there is no right or wrong, no BEcoming, only BEing. What Is, Is.

So the hammer is already brought down. There is no bringing it. It's brought.

Or brung. Whatever.

[Arrowwind]

. Being a writer is a constant process of recapitulation..

There are those who say that recapitulation is a necessary part of growth.
Don Juan has whole recapitulation ceremonies...

when you die, they say your whole life flashes before your eyes... a recapitulation.
when you stand at the pearly gate, some religions say, it is recapituation time.

Recapitulation is one process to break the webs that bind us
so that self awareness is more fully grocked.

I would not say it is a constant process,
it is a process that is created in the moment
every moment ends to give birth to the next

Writers put some time aside for this process
and see it for its worth in the absolute present moment.
where others go on willy nilly, never reflecting back
on who they are, what they have done, why they have done it
who it might effect, what consequences they pay or bear

not only is writing a recapitulaiton
so is reading...

[Mark]

Recapitulation is more than remembering, this you know if you read Don Juan.



See comment above re living in the Past. "Remembering" will serve if its the word that is problematic. The act of doing so constantly is the point ...

LOL Fine, Arrowwind. That one word was not the point of my entire post.

I was speaking to a larger point. But thank you for your grammar and contextual hammer!

[Arrowwind]

. Being a writer is a constant process of recapitulation..

There are those who say that recapitulation is a necessary part of growth.

And I am one of those. But not all the time living in the past. Or, worrying about the future.


Don Juan has whole recapitulation ceremonies...

I have read Casteneda's books also, multiple times each. :)


I would not say it is a constant process,

See comment above re living in the Past. "Remembering" will serve if its the word that is problematic. The act of doing so constantly is the point ...


not only is writing a recapitulaiton
so is reading...

Good point! You brung the hammer down on reading! Now we're getting somewhere ...

Although I respect Taoism, I am not a Taoist.
Recapitulation is more than remembering, this you know if you read Don Juan.

[ulli]

This thread has developed into something quite interesting and unique.

Taking a look at the world through "jaded eyes" is an exercise in moderation, when accompanied by its opposition, which in this case would be looking at the world through "rose colored glasses". Both, when engaged in equally, result in seeing reality for what it is. Through them both, a state in-between is engaged, wherein conclusions and perceptions can be tendered that result in a moderate and realistic view of what is really going on. I.e., no sugar-coating. Attempting to speak truth, even a relative truth, without prettying it all up for popular consumption.

Most of us are pretty bad at bringing the hammer down if doing so really implies being nasty or lacking compassion. As Carmody and Modwiz said, that does speak well of us as a group.

With that said, I'd like to bring the hammer down on writing and the process of. And, I would submit - and, to cut off all protestations that the designation of "writer" does not apply - ALL who post on forums all the time (you too, Flash LOL) are writers, more or less.

It's soooo egocentric. It hones and develops the personality complex and prevents the person doing it from existing fully in the Now because the writer ALWAYS has to be looking back into the Past or looking forward into the Future in order to document thoughts and experiences. Being a writer is a constant process of recapitulation. Of stultifying what is inherently fluid; life, experience. Taking situations and occurrences and freezing them in words, creating para-realities that, as soon as they are written, become lies because they inadequately represent what no longer Is just by virtue of the act of writing it down.

I've struggled with this in thought a bit, further contributing to my own excessive ego development. And yes, here's a nod to those who have made a firm commitment to living this life and not worrying about evolving spiritually to some ego-less state: to have a strong and well-defined ego is not necessarily a bad thing if one wants to be successful in this life and this world and hey, it's development along a trajectory and wherever we each currently are is fine, so being a writer, writing, engaging in the constant musing, re-hashing and explication serves our current development as it should.

But for those who do seek to exist more in the moment, in the Now, and to do so while still being a writer and documenting thoughts and experiences, the only kind of remedy I've been able to discover that alleviates the potential excessive development of ego is to forego the inordinate recapitulation, contemplating, remembering and imagining, and to write in the Now, let whatever is within come out and only to consider past and future, to ruminate in the flow of the moment and to spend the rest of one's time engaging in the stilling of thought, as recommended by so many traditions, time and the world across.

Is it enough? Who knows. But by definition, whatever we engage in during a life is exactly what we're supposed to be doing, so there is no right or wrong, no BEcoming, only BEing. What Is, Is.

So the hammer is already brought down. There is no bringing it. It's brought.

Or brung. Whatever.


So you want to see a world where there is no writing?
Any more stilling of thoughts and we'll have to dismantle the Internet completely.
My hammer is coming own on all those traditions that knock the mind.
The mind is our greatest tool, or gift.
Sure, I get it, they probably refer to the type of mind that won't shut up for a moment to allow listening to spirit.
But this either/or type of preaching against mind is against my religion which is called BOTH.
This AND that.
Each in its own time.
Turn off the engine when the car is parked in the garage, by all means, but without an engine there is no car.

[Mark]

So you want to see a world where there is no writing?
Any more stilling of thoughts and we'll have to dismantle the Internet completely.
My hammer is coming own on all those traditions that knock the mind.
The mind is our greatest tool, or gift.
Sure, I get it, they probably refer to the type of mind that won't shut up for a moment to allow listening to spirit.
But this either/or type of preaching against mind is against my religion which is called BOTH.
This AND that.
Each in its own time.
Turn off the engine when the car is parked in the garage, by all means, but without an engine there is no car.


And yes, here's a nod to those who have made a firm commitment to living this life and not worrying about evolving spiritually to some ego-less state: to have a strong and well-defined ego is not necessarily a bad thing if one wants to be successful in this life and this world and hey, it's development along a trajectory and wherever we each currently are is fine, so being a writer, writing, engaging in the constant musing, re-hashing and explication serves our current development as it should.

I would agree!

[Mark]

To continue the theme, I offer the recent exchange between myself, Arrowwind and Ulli as a case in point. A great example! Thank you both!

To engage in this discussion, it was necessary to go back and forth between the present and the future in order to respond clearly and concisely. In order to understand where both were coming from and predict where they were going based upon the actual content and tone of their responses. In each response to my original post, both Arrowwind and Ulli picked very specific points made without addressing the overall gist of the post itself. Both took the critical, hammeristic view in order to get their pounds in, while at the same time confirming the relative egocentricity of writing, the difficulty of capturing not only the nuances of an idea but even of addressing the entirety of an idea in favor of a more limited and personally favored response indicating their own preferential perspectives on reality, WHICH WE ALL DO, and which is part and parcel of the process of writing. We ignore the forest to chop down just that one, irritating tree that just so happened to catch our eye.

re·ca·pit·u·la·tion/ˌrēkəˌpiCHəˈlāSHən/
Noun:
An act or instance of summarizing the main points of something.
The repetition of an evolutionary or other process during development or growth.

We do this all the time. It is necessary to keep our personalities alive, to reaffirm our beliefs, our own peculiar view of the world shaped by our experience of it. We do this in thought and in action, when speaking, interacting, conversing. But, I submit, the act of writing is a more insidious form of communication in that it gives words the power of gravity of finality without implicating the writer directly or binding her or him to the outcomes of the words as would be the case in person-to-person or person-to-people communicative modalities.

Some people say that writing things down was when everything started to go wrong. When the elite were able to get that good stranglehold and start squeezing the populaces of the world. The beginnings of formal religion, law. Frank O'Collins talks about that in-depth here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35733--Red-Ice-Radio--Frank-O-Collins-The-Roman-Cult--Law--The-Khazars) on PA.

As a writer, personally, I love it! LOL Commuicating, sharing. It is necessary, in the life I have chosen to live and I have no regrets or misgivings about who I am or what I do. But of course, that is coming purely from my personality and ego complex. Even so, I am exactly where I am supposed to be, as are we all.

[ulli]

To continue the theme, I offer the recent exchange between myself, Arrowwind and Ulli as a case in point. A great example! Thank you both!

To engage in this discussion, it was necessary to go back and forth between the present and the future in order to respond clearly and concisely. In order to understand where both were coming from and predict where they were going based upon the actual content and tone of their responses. In each response to my original post, both Arrowwind and Ulli picked very specific points made without addressing the overall gist of the post itself. Both took the critical, hammeristic view in order to get their pounds in, while at the same time confirming the relative egocentricity of writing, the difficulty of capturing not only the nuances of an idea but even of addressing the entirety of an idea in favor of a more limited and personally favored response indicating their own preferential perspectives on reality, WHICH WE ALL DO, and which is part and parcel of the process of writing. We ignore the forest to chop down just that one, irritating tree that just so happened to catch our eye.

re·ca·pit·u·la·tion/ˌrēkəˌpiCHəˈlāSHən/
Noun:
An act or instance of summarizing the main points of something.
The repetition of an evolutionary or other process during development or growth.

We do this all the time. It is necessary to keep our personalities alive, to reaffirm our beliefs, our own peculiar view of the world shaped by our experience of it. We do this in thought and in action, when speaking, interacting, conversing. But, I submit, the act of writing is a more insidious form of communication in that it gives words the power of gravity of finality without implicating the writer directly or binding her or him to the outcomes of the words as would be the case in person-to-person or person-to-people communicative modalities.

Some people say that writing things down was when everything started to go wrong. When the elite were able to get that good stranglehold and start squeezing the populaces of the world. The beginnings of formal religion, law. Frank O'Collins talks about that in-depth here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?35733--Red-Ice-Radio--Frank-O-Collins-The-Roman-Cult--Law--The-Khazars) on PA.

As a writer, personally, I love it! LOL Commuicating, sharing. It is necessary, in the life I have chosen to live and I have no regrets or misgivings about who I am or what I do. But of course, that is coming purely from my personality and ego complex. Even so, I am exactly where I am supposed to be, as are we all.

Agreeing with everything you said.
Which is why I welcome people's ego, as something to interact with.
Just as they can interact with mine.
Because the moment we project at each other that the ego is a bad thing,
telling the other person that they are full of sh/t because of their egos
then all breaks down...
of course I reserve the right to pull out of a conversation which has become too forceful or tedious for my liking,
However, this is not the case with you.

[Flash]

This thread has developed into something quite interesting and unique.

Taking a look at the world through "jaded eyes" is an exercise in moderation, when accompanied by its opposition, which in this case would be looking at the world through "rose colored glasses". Both, when engaged in equally, result in seeing reality for what it is. Through them both, a state in-between is engaged, wherein conclusions and perceptions can be tendered that result in a moderate and realistic view of what is really going on. I.e., no sugar-coating. Attempting to speak truth, even a relative truth, without prettying it all up for popular consumption.

Most of us are pretty bad at bringing the hammer down if doing so really implies being nasty or lacking compassion. As Carmody and Modwiz said, that does speak well of us as a group.

With that said, I'd like to bring the hammer down on writing and the process of. And, I would submit - and, to cut off all protestations that the designation of "writer" does not apply - ALL who post on forums all the time (you too, Flash LOL) are writers, more or less.

It's soooo egocentric. It hones and develops the personality complex and prevents the person doing it from existing fully in the Now because the writer ALWAYS has to be looking back into the Past or looking forward into the Future in order to document thoughts and experiences. Being a writer is a constant process of recapitulation. Of stultifying what is inherently fluid; life, experience. Taking situations and occurrences and freezing them in words, creating para-realities that, as soon as they are written, become lies because they inadequately represent what no longer Is just by virtue of the act of writing it down.

I've struggled with this in thought a bit, further contributing to my own excessive ego development. And yes, here's a nod to those who have made a firm commitment to living this life and not worrying about evolving spiritually to some ego-less state: to have a strong and well-defined ego is not necessarily a bad thing if one wants to be successful in this life and this world and hey, it's development along a trajectory and wherever we each currently are is fine, so being a writer, writing, engaging in the constant musing, re-hashing and explication serves our current development as it should.

But for those who do seek to exist more in the moment, in the Now, and to do so while still being a writer and documenting thoughts and experiences, the only kind of remedy I've been able to discover that alleviates the potential excessive development of ego is to forego the inordinate recapitulation, contemplating, remembering and imagining, and to write in the Now, let whatever is within come out and only to consider past and future, to ruminate in the flow of the moment and to spend the rest of one's time engaging in the stilling of thought, as recommended by so many traditions, time and the world across.

Is it enough? Who knows. But by definition, whatever we engage in during a life is exactly what we're supposed to be doing, so there is no right or wrong, no BEcoming, only BEing. What Is, Is.

So the hammer is already brought down. There is no bringing it. It's brought.

Or brung. Whatever.

Ya, should have added up your name to Reaver's and Write4Change in my previous post. LOL


With that said, I'd like to bring the hammer down on writing and the process of. And, I would submit - and, to cut off all protestations that the designation of "writer" does not apply - ALL who post on forums all the time (you too, Flash LOL) are writers, more or less.



Very funny, happy you include me in your writer's club. The difference being that it takes you zip time to write in English, with a beautiful prose. It takes me the triple time with an awful prose despite many revisions. Mais en français, là, c'est une autre histoire. La diarrhée verbale ou écrite est relativement facile et la prose plus que passable. La pensée est plus complète également et, parlant de diarrhée, se tient mieux. Là je pourrais être un écrivain.

Wow, those last sentences were easy...

Sometimes I even have to check in the dictionary to get meanings of words. Le last one was Carmody's post I think and the word was slieve or something like this.
Can you imagine the time involved. And I am far better at English than lots of Avalon's other than English speaking readers/writers. Can't imagine (or rather yes I can) how much time and effort they put in.

[ulli]

This thread has developed into something quite interesting and unique.

Taking a look at the world through "jaded eyes" is an exercise in moderation, when accompanied by its opposition, which in this case would be looking at the world through "rose colored glasses". Both, when engaged in equally, result in seeing reality for what it is. Through them both, a state in-between is engaged, wherein conclusions and perceptions can be tendered that result in a moderate and realistic view of what is really going on. I.e., no sugar-coating. Attempting to speak truth, even a relative truth, without prettying it all up for popular consumption.

Most of us are pretty bad at bringing the hammer down if doing so really implies being nasty or lacking compassion. As Carmody and Modwiz said, that does speak well of us as a group.

With that said, I'd like to bring the hammer down on writing and the process of. And, I would submit - and, to cut off all protestations that the designation of "writer" does not apply - ALL who post on forums all the time (you too, Flash LOL) are writers, more or less.

It's soooo egocentric. It hones and develops the personality complex and prevents the person doing it from existing fully in the Now because the writer ALWAYS has to be looking back into the Past or looking forward into the Future in order to document thoughts and experiences. Being a writer is a constant process of recapitulation. Of stultifying what is inherently fluid; life, experience. Taking situations and occurrences and freezing them in words, creating para-realities that, as soon as they are written, become lies because they inadequately represent what no longer Is just by virtue of the act of writing it down.

I've struggled with this in thought a bit, further contributing to my own excessive ego development. And yes, here's a nod to those who have made a firm commitment to living this life and not worrying about evolving spiritually to some ego-less state: to have a strong and well-defined ego is not necessarily a bad thing if one wants to be successful in this life and this world and hey, it's development along a trajectory and wherever we each currently are is fine, so being a writer, writing, engaging in the constant musing, re-hashing and explication serves our current development as it should.

But for those who do seek to exist more in the moment, in the Now, and to do so while still being a writer and documenting thoughts and experiences, the only kind of remedy I've been able to discover that alleviates the potential excessive development of ego is to forego the inordinate recapitulation, contemplating, remembering and imagining, and to write in the Now, let whatever is within come out and only to consider past and future, to ruminate in the flow of the moment and to spend the rest of one's time engaging in the stilling of thought, as recommended by so many traditions, time and the world across.

Is it enough? Who knows. But by definition, whatever we engage in during a life is exactly what we're supposed to be doing, so there is no right or wrong, no BEcoming, only BEing. What Is, Is.

So the hammer is already brought down. There is no bringing it. It's brought.

Or brung. Whatever.

Ya, should have added up your name to Reaver's and Write4Change in my previous post. LOL


With that said, I'd like to bring the hammer down on writing and the process of. And, I would submit - and, to cut off all protestations that the designation of "writer" does not apply - ALL who post on forums all the time (you too, Flash LOL) are writers, more or less.



Very funny, happy you include me in your writer's club. The difference being that it takes you zip time to write in English, with a beautiful prose. It takes me the triple time with an awful prose despite many revisions. Mais en français, là, c'est une autre histoire. La diarrhée verbale ou écrite est relativement facile et la prose plus que passable. La pensée est plus complète également et, parlant de diarrhée, se tient mieux. Là je pourrais être un écrivain.

Wow, those last sentences were easy...

Sometimes I even have to check in the dictionary to get meanings of words. Le last one was Carmody's post I think and the word was slieve or something like this.
Can you imagine the time involved. And I am far better at English than lots of Avalon's other than English speaking readers/writers. Can't imagine (or rather yes I can) how much time and effort they put in.

Stick around and your English will improve. I often forget now that English is my second language.
I can read French, but since learning Español solamente Español sale. Is like the Spanish went into my French filing cabinet and compacting the French vocabulary into a mush. (purée?)

[araucaria]

This thread has developed into something quite interesting and unique.

Taking a look at the world through "jaded eyes" is an exercise in moderation, when accompanied by its opposition, which in this case would be looking at the world through "rose colored glasses". Both, when engaged in equally, result in seeing reality for what it is. Through them both, a state in-between is engaged, wherein conclusions and perceptions can be tendered that result in a moderate and realistic view of what is really going on. I.e., no sugar-coating. Attempting to speak truth, even a relative truth, without prettying it all up for popular consumption.

Most of us are pretty bad at bringing the hammer down if doing so really implies being nasty or lacking compassion. As Carmody and Modwiz said, that does speak well of us as a group.

With that said, I'd like to bring the hammer down on writing and the process of. And, I would submit - and, to cut off all protestations that the designation of "writer" does not apply - ALL who post on forums all the time (you too, Flash LOL) are writers, more or less.

It's soooo egocentric. It hones and develops the personality complex and prevents the person doing it from existing fully in the Now because the writer ALWAYS has to be looking back into the Past or looking forward into the Future in order to document thoughts and experiences. Being a writer is a constant process of recapitulation. Of stultifying what is inherently fluid; life, experience. Taking situations and occurrences and freezing them in words, creating para-realities that, as soon as they are written, become lies because they inadequately represent what no longer Is just by virtue of the act of writing it down.

I've struggled with this in thought a bit, further contributing to my own excessive ego development. And yes, here's a nod to those who have made a firm commitment to living this life and not worrying about evolving spiritually to some ego-less state: to have a strong and well-defined ego is not necessarily a bad thing if one wants to be successful in this life and this world and hey, it's development along a trajectory and wherever we each currently are is fine, so being a writer, writing, engaging in the constant musing, re-hashing and explication serves our current development as it should.

But for those who do seek to exist more in the moment, in the Now, and to do so while still being a writer and documenting thoughts and experiences, the only kind of remedy I've been able to discover that alleviates the potential excessive development of ego is to forego the inordinate recapitulation, contemplating, remembering and imagining, and to write in the Now, let whatever is within come out and only to consider past and future, to ruminate in the flow of the moment and to spend the rest of one's time engaging in the stilling of thought, as recommended by so many traditions, time and the world across.

Is it enough? Who knows. But by definition, whatever we engage in during a life is exactly what we're supposed to be doing, so there is no right or wrong, no BEcoming, only BEing. What Is, Is.

So the hammer is already brought down. There is no bringing it. It's brought.

Or brung. Whatever.

Ya, should have added up your name to Reaver's and Write4Change in my previous post. LOL


With that said, I'd like to bring the hammer down on writing and the process of. And, I would submit - and, to cut off all protestations that the designation of "writer" does not apply - ALL who post on forums all the time (you too, Flash LOL) are writers, more or less.



Very funny, happy you include me in your writer's club. The difference being that it takes you zip time to write in English, with a beautiful prose. It takes me the triple time with an awful prose despite many revisions. Mais en français, là, c'est une autre histoire. La diarrhée verbale ou écrite est relativement facile et la prose plus que passable. La pensée est plus complète également et, parlant de diarrhée, se tient mieux. Là je pourrais être un écrivain.

Wow, those last sentences were easy...

Sometimes I even have to check in the dictionary to get meanings of words. Le last one was Carmody's post I think and the word was slieve or something like this.
Can you imagine the time involved. And I am far better at English than lots of Avalon's other than English speaking readers/writers. Can't imagine (or rather yes I can) how much time and effort they put in.

Stick around and your English will improve. I often forget now that English is my second language.
I can read French, but since learning Español solamente Español sale. Is like the Spanish went into my French filing cabinet and compacting the French vocabulary into a mush. (purée?)

It is not a good idea to start with slang in a foreign language. Purée is a euphemism for the expletive Putain! (meaning lady of easy virtue). A bit like miercoles in Spanish which means mercredi in French, and sugar in English. Is that mushy enough? :)

[ulli]

AYYY! la puta!!!

[Flash]

Araucaria is confusing you for no reason Ulli. Purée means what you wanted it to mean: mash, like mash potatoes, purée de pommes de terre. Now, if French in France want to make it an euphemism for putain (whore), up to them - they always think sex anyhow LOL . But their French is sometimes, well, inapropriate and even sometimes anglicised..... ummmm, hopefully Araucaria will take my comments lightly and on the fun side.

Désolée Araucaria, je ne pouvais m'empêcher. À ne pas prendre au sérieux, surtout pas.

[araucaria]

Araucaria is confusing you for no reason Ulli. Purée means what you wanted it to mean: mash, like mash potatoes, purée de pomme de terre. Now, if French in France want to make it an euphemism for putain (whore), up to them - they always think sex anyhow LOL . But their French is sometimes, well, inapropriate and even sometimes anglicised..... ummmm, hopefully Araucaria will take my comments lightly and on the fun side.

Désolée Araucaria, je ne pouvais m'empêcher. À ne pas prendre au sérieux, surtout pas.

Sorry, I thought the topic was confusion, must be confusing this thread with another one, my mistake :)
Whereas Quebeckers' swearwords are mostly church utensils, no?

Purée de pommes de terre et de courgettes au gruyère, very tasty...

[music]

I am going to use this thread, if I may, to tell the sort of joke that generally gets disapproving "tuts", inspired by a thread on this very forum:

Jesus said to them: "my wife is so fat, when she walks down the street, the new-agers think it's the three days of darkness."

Not many people realise that Jesus was the Don Rickles of the ancient world.

[PurpleLama]

Music, I might have misjudged you in some respects. Bravo!

***edit***

And, I wasn't even gonna post in this thread no more, you made me forget for a second!

[another bob]

8xCrQLyEep4

[Mark]

Ok, at first that was a bit creepy, Bob? When he started laughing? But then I found myself smiling and chuckling despite myself. And then it went back to creepy again when he stopped laughing and started dissecting my consciousness.

Felt like controlled folly. No emotional states are real when you can turn them on and off at will?

Or rather, their relative reality is a choice that we can control. Recognizing that ability, we can then move past the habits of allowing our emotions to control us. Define us. Have people or situations outside of our own personal agency determine our responses and reactions by awakening emotional states, provoking intended responses.

Who am I now ... if I am not the emotions, the habits and the patterns that have resulted in this complex of differential psychic collectives melded into one human experience, masked as a single entity?

So much in a laugh. He brought the hammer down. Fuh real.

[13th Warrior]

8xCrQLyEep4

Cannabis can have this affect on you.

[ulli]

We are all nobody now.
Found this quote on Sabrina's thread...her latest post is about Rupert Murdoch's News Corp and ongoing law suits and arrests. Another reporter was arrested recently and here are the comments:

One reporter said this week: "How many of us are left to arrest? This is now beyond ridiculous."
Another joked. "You're a nobody now if you haven't been arrested."

Why did this make me feel all fuzzy inside?

[ulli]

Music, I might have misjudged you in some respects. Bravo!

***edit***

And, I wasn't even gonna post in this thread no more, you made me forget for a second!

So, Music...
Got any more? I like to keep PL around...got used to his presence and can't live without him no more....

[another bob]

Ok, at first that was a bit creepy, Bob? When he started laughing? But then I found myself smiling and chuckling despite myself. And then it went back to creepy again when he stopped laughing and started dissecting my consciousness.

Felt like controlled folly. No emotional states are real when you can turn them on and off at will?

Or rather, their relative reality is a choice that we can control. Recognizing that ability, we can then move past the habits of allowing our emotions to control us. Define us. Have people or situations outside of our own personal agency determine our responses and reactions by awakening emotional states, provoking intended responses.

Who am I now ... if I am not the emotions, the habits and the patterns that have resulted in this complex of differential psychic collectives melded into one human experience, masked as a single entity?

So much in a laugh. He brought the hammer down. Fuh real.

Yeah, Alan was a bit eccentric, but a good way-shower and path-pointer. Everyone has a different laugh, which is interesting in itself. Our laughter reveals a lot, I've noticed. The Zen Master he was talking about was the same one I studied with, who recommended that a good student of the art of life will get out of bed in the morning, go to the window, lean back with hands on hips, and laugh for 10 minutes. He claimed this was by far the most effective meditation one could do -- much better than sitting cross-legged on a cushion. I have never made it up to 10 minutes, but it's hard to be pissed off about anything, contracted, fearful, or resentful, when we're laughing, so a word to the wise, eh . . .

Good point about emotional states, btw -- you hit the nail, hehe . . .


:yo:

[modwiz]

I am going to use this thread, if I may, to tell the sort of joke that generally gets disapproving "tuts", inspired by a thread on this very forum:

Jesus said to them: "my wife is so fat, when she walks down the street, the new-agers think it's the three days of darkness."

Not many people realise that Jesus was the Don Rickles of the ancient world.

Good one. I like a "Mama So Zionist" joke.

Mama so zionist, when she flies she changes the 'occupied' sign on the lavatory to 'territory under dispute'.

[modwiz]

A funny t-shirt I saw a young man wearing where I live. One would have to be familiar with a bawdy limerick that starts, "There was a man from Nantucket".

Anyway, this young man had a shirt that said, "I am that man from Nantucket". I told him it was a great shirt and he laughed and thanked me.

Here is a link, if you are unfamiliar and daring. Be warned, it is very adult.
http://www.jokes2go.com/poems/9719.html

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

"You're a nobody now if you haven't been arrested."

My only arrest so far: Wrecking a motorcycle, A BMW R1100R without a license to do so (or to drive it responsibily - kudos to Gawd that I am still alive!)


So, Music... Got any more? I like to keep PL around...got used to his presence and can't live without him no more....

Same thing happened to me circa 2005. If I didn't respect him and his family, I'd have him on the phone every night of the week. Love me some Purple Lama......... We are God's Prime time!

And now for my hammer of the day:

I have to call Gawd out on this one: Why the hell did Gawd arrange for us to have only two sets of teeth? As with sharks, why in the world do our teeth not replace themselves continually throughout our lives. They are able to do it once in childhood, why not three or four times? Is Gawd in cahoots with the ADA? Why not replace your mouth with a new set of teeth in your thirties, then sixties, and on and on? And, lastly, for the children, why does it have to be so painful and drawn out (and onerous for the parents) for those damn molars to break through? And don't get me started on "wisdom" teeth! I mean, really, Gawd, you did some &$%#ing incredible sh!t, but you came up short in the homosapien dental department. (though there are clear skies in my area, I am running inside to avoid a precision lightning strike!)

[music]

Music, I might have misjudged you in some respects. Bravo!

***edit***

And, I wasn't even gonna post in this thread no more, you made me forget for a second!

So, Music...
Got any more? I like to keep PL around...got used to his presence and can't live without him no more....

Prim and proper lady is at the pearly gates while St Peter processes her application. Suddenly, a blood-curdling scream erupts from within paradise. "Oh Lordy, what was that" asks p & p lady? St Peter replies "Don't sweat it babe (Pete is quite the hipster), just a new arrival getting the holes drilled for fitting the wings." "Oh, OK" says she, and they go back to processing the application. Then, a scream even more intense than the first is heard, and the lady asks "well what on earth was that?" Peter looks up from his paperwork (heaven is old school), and says "Relax, just a new arrival getting the holes drilled for fitting the halo." "That's it" says the lady, "I'm going to the other place." St Peter is shocked, gets right up into the lady's grill, and says "are you insane? Do you realise you will be raped and sodomised for all eternity down there?" The lady looks Peter squarely in the eye and says: "Yeah, but at least I've already got the holes for that!"

[araucaria]

Ulli, post #93: "They are manifesting material to write about."

Sure, but I find writing material to manifest is much more interesting :)

One day you will tell me how you discovered this, because it is true.
Life-changing and empowering breakthrough for me.
After I discovered that's how everything works once the inner life is integrated
I started meeting others who could do it, too.
Actually, Avalon is full of such people which is why I'm still here.
Never a dull moment.

Long story. This is a Here & Now question and I was going to propose answering sometime on that thread. In any case, the present thread seems to have snapped overnight...

[ulli]

Ulli, post #93: "They are manifesting material to write about."

Sure, but I find writing material to manifest is much more interesting :)

One day you will tell me how you discovered this, because it is true.
Life-changing and empowering breakthrough for me.
After I discovered that's how everything works once the inner life is integrated
I started meeting others who could do it, too.
Actually, Avalon is full of such people which is why I'm still here.
Never a dull moment.

Long story. This is a Here & Now question and I was going to propose answering sometime on that thread. In any case, the present thread seems to have snapped overnight...


I guess this is my fault....as earlier on I suggested a change of name, such as The Daily Drill,
which lead to the inevitable decline, down the holes.
People are so predictable.
Talking of which, there is a current T-shirt fashion about saving the Unicorn,
which some people are promoting in this manner:

[PurpleLama]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=18309&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1348233890

This brings to mind 9's "reincarnated fairy unicorns" hahahahaha!

[music]

Hammer time:

There is an abundance of people whose "awareness" is purely ego-based. They spout Hallmark-esque platitudes and quote the words of others as if this is enough to let all know that they are "aware". They skim read, and see only what they want to see, incorrectly picking an eye from a block of text and replying in a non-contextural way with second-hand wisdom which they believe is doing the recipient of their wisdom the greatest of favours. Truly a test of patience, thank you for that at least :)

[write4change]

We are doubling down. Ditto, Ditto, Ditto.

After explanations of implications when explicit information from the beginning would have made a big difference in presentation.

[modwiz]

Ulli, post #93: "They are manifesting material to write about."

Sure, but I find writing material to manifest is much more interesting :)

One day you will tell me how you discovered this, because it is true.
Life-changing and empowering breakthrough for me.
After I discovered that's how everything works once the inner life is integrated
I started meeting others who could do it, too.
Actually, Avalon is full of such people which is why I'm still here.
Never a dull moment.

Long story. This is a Here & Now question and I was going to propose answering sometime on that thread. In any case, the present thread seems to have snapped overnight...


I guess this is my fault....as earlier on I suggested a change of name, such as The Daily Drill,
which lead to the inevitable decline, down the holes.
People are so predictable.
Talking of which, there is a current T-shirt fashion about saving the Unicorn,
which some people are promoting in this manner:

My understanding of the Unicorns' symbolism is that of male chastity. Sir Galahad comes to mind.
So maybe those unicorns were practicing chastity 'monk style'.

Freakin' muggles profaning symbols with their ignorance.

[ulli]

I guess this is my fault....as earlier on I suggested a change of name, such as The Daily Drill,
which lead to the inevitable decline, down the holes.
People are so predictable.
Talking of which, there is a current T-shirt fashion about saving the Unicorn,
which some people are promoting in this manner:

My understanding of the Unicorns' symbolism is that of male chastity. Sir Galahad comes to mind.
So maybe those unicorns were practicing chastity 'monk style'.

Freakin' muggles profaning symbols with their ignorance.

I couldn't agree more. Whatever is the world coming to?

http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1077640619/30724_440764398237_679208237_5755083_565235_n.jpg

[modwiz]

See below. This is a former crime scene.

[modwiz]

My understanding of the Unicorns' symbolism is that of male chastity. Sir Galahad comes to mind.
So maybe those unicorns were practicing chastity 'monk style'.

Freakin' muggles profaning symbols with their ignorance.

I couldn't agree more. Whatever is the world coming to?

http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1077640619/30724_440764398237_679208237_5755083_565235_n.jpg

OMG. I will guess this is Sir Gaylahad.

[Chester]

A funny t-shirt I saw a young man wearing where I live. One would have to be familiar with a bawdy limerick that starts, "There was a man from Nantucket".

Anyway, this young man had a shirt that said, "I am that man from Nantucket". I told him it was a great shirt and he laughed and thanked me.

Here is a link, if you are unfamiliar and daring. Be warned, it is very adult.
http://www.jokes2go.com/poems/9719.html

I almost made Bob's ten minute mark with this one Mod! thanks bro justoneham

[ulli]

My understanding of the Unicorns' symbolism is that of male chastity. Sir Galahad comes to mind.
So maybe those unicorns were practicing chastity 'monk style'.

Freakin' muggles profaning symbols with their ignorance.



I couldn't agree more. Whatever is the world coming to?

http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1077640619/30724_440764398237_679208237_5755083_565235_n.jpg

OMG. I will guess this is Sir Gaylahad.


Muggles and their profanities still can bring about a new species....
and if it isn't HANDSOME!!!!!!!!!!!

[Flash]

I guess this is my fault....as earlier on I suggested a change of name, such as The Daily Drill,
which lead to the inevitable decline, down the holes.
People are so predictable.
Talking of which, there is a current T-shirt fashion about saving the Unicorn,
which some people are promoting in this manner:

My understanding of the Unicorns' symbolism is that of male chastity. Sir Galahad comes to mind.
So maybe those unicorns were practicing chastity 'monk style'.

Freakin' muggles profaning symbols with their ignorance.

I couldn't agree more. Whatever is the world coming to?

http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1077640619/30724_440764398237_679208237_5755083_565235_n.jpg

Ouf! My appetite for men just took a hike. I wish to erase that image from my mind. lol

[modwiz]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=18313&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1348272002
My take is more like, 100% Corny.
(No offense PL. I'm protecting your nuts, dude.)

[ulli]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=18313&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1348272002
My take is more like, 100% Corny.
(No offense PL. I'm protecting your nuts, dude.)

There once was a horn that was corny
which met it's match and went porny
In an ancient Ford it went overboard
and decided no more to get horny.

[modwiz]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=18313&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1348272002
My take is more like, 100% Corny.
(No offense PL. I'm protecting your nuts, dude.)

There once was a horn that was corny
which met it's match and went porny
In an ancient Ford it went overboard
and decided no more to get horny.

Going for 101%, eh? LOL

[PurpleLama]

Wrong. Just wrong. Fairy unicorns, indeed.

Llama, FTW.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Don't worry, Mod, my masculinity is unassailable. So is my femininity, haha.

[DeDukshyn]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=18313&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1348272002
My take is more like, 100% Corny.
(No offense PL. I'm protecting your nuts, dude.)

There once was a horn that was corny
which met it's match and went porny
In an ancient Ford it went overboard
and decided no more to get horny.

Going for 101%, eh? LOL

I almost spit out my beer! ... so subtle a comment .. yet so effective ;)

[modwiz]

http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1077640619/30724_440764398237_679208237_5755083_565235_n.jpg

Ouf! My appetite for men just took a hike. I wish to erase that image from my mind. lol

Makes you want to say,"nay", eh? Nay. Neigh. Get it? :pound:(Just in case the English to French does not work, Flash)

[DeDukshyn]

http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1077640619/30724_440764398237_679208237_5755083_565235_n.jpg

Ouf! My appetite for men just took a hike. I wish to erase that image from my mind. lol

Makes you want to say,"nay", eh? Nay. Neigh. Get it? :pound:(Just in case the English to French does not work, Flash)

I'm just having a hard time fathoming the impact of the six iterations of this image. I'm not even sure what that means ... ;)

[modwiz]

http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1077640619/30724_440764398237_679208237_5755083_565235_n.jpg

Ouf! My appetite for men just took a hike. I wish to erase that image from my mind. lol

Makes you want to say,"nay", eh? Nay. Neigh. Get it? :pound:(Just in case the English to French does not work, Flash)

I'm just having a hard time fathoming the impact of the six iterations of this image. I'm not even sure what that means ... ;)

I think those pants make his ass look fat. :suspicious:

[DeDukshyn]

http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1077640619/30724_440764398237_679208237_5755083_565235_n.jpg

Ouf! My appetite for men just took a hike. I wish to erase that image from my mind. lol

Makes you want to say,"nay", eh? Nay. Neigh. Get it? :pound:(Just in case the English to French does not work, Flash)

I'm just having a hard time fathoming the impact of the six iterations of this image. I'm not even sure what that means ... ;)

I think those pants make his ass look fat. :suspicious:

Make that eight .. ;)

[Carmody]

"Go to 105% on the reactor" --The Hunt For Red October

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

There once was a pink horse with a horn
Whose countenance provoked some scorn
Though the bestial reality
Was nothing short of abnormality
When he realized he done got unicorned

[DeDukshyn]

"Go to 105% on the reactor" --The Hunt For Red October

"It's all she'll give Capt'n! She can't take no more!" -- Scotty

[ulli]

"Go to 105% on the reactor" --The Hunt For Red October

"It's all she'll give Capt'n! She can't take no more!" -- Scotty

Right!
Change subject.
Get the hammers out again...

http://i.imgur.com/94QBu.gif

[ulli]

....and just as Modwiz was returning to his tent
after having laid the unicorn to rest
another light being caught his attention...
THE SILVER DOE!!!

http://i.imgur.com/neQ0T.png

[DeDukshyn]

I just had a craving for jerky ...Glowing jerky .. strange.

[Kindred]

I don't belong here as I try to live by the motto; "Do unto others, as you would have done unto you..."

Enjoy

[DeDukshyn]

I don't belong here as I try to live by the motto; "Do unto others, as you would have done unto you..."

Enjoy

Oh yeah .. .well I fully agree - don't treat anyone how you would not accept to be treated.

[Rocky_Shorz]

she is giving you all the healing light that you need... It comes from her smile, and her heart...

I wonder how it would have been if she projected her smile and her heart with kindness into all her words to the people here.
Somehow she decided that this path would not be effective or worthy of her time.
I do hope that she finds that light within herself, and comes back and shares it.
She is a great story teller.


I wasn't talking about Eagle, this was a special message from Write4's lost child...

I used to solve missing children's cases by talking with their spirits...


for Eagle,

every once in a while, I'd be kicking back around a campfire with a few friends chatting, and I'd say I need some sand...

moments later, I heard the roar of trucks, then their back up alarms as they each rolled up and dumped their enormous load of sand then moving for the next...

those of us at the campfire sat in Awe, our mouths hanging at this enormous mountain of Sand... The trucks rolled off, then I felt eyes upon me, realizing they were yours, I'd bend down picking up a grain of sand from the mountainous pile, smile at you and say Thanks!!! I'd stand for a moment watching you as you stomped down the street surprised I wasn't dancing for Joy for all of the sand you gave me...

after you disappear, I'd reach deep inside the sand pile searching for what I really needed...

I felt an object forming in my hands and I'd pull it out...

a goblet of Sand, reaching the moonlight it exploded in light, in moments, shiny clear glass...

walking back, I sat down, filled it with water watching as it turned red as wine...


couldn't have done it without you... ;)

[ulli]

Bumping the hammer thread. Knock knock.
Last night it became fun for a moment...at least for those few who's idea of fun is similar.
But life goes on and not always is the misery such that one can crack up with mirth, though that is still the healthiest option. (potion... if you interchange the op)
While the current Pluto-Uranus-Neptune energies are swirling about
at microcosmic as well as macrocosmic levels
this thread should continue to serve as a valve.
Now that the History Channel is showing only programs on ETs, even interpreting all of humanity's history from the ET angle I'm wondering who is pulling the strings of that meme.
Colin Andrews is a regular in these programs, the crop circles guy... and I remember that he also assisted as a consultant to that awful movie "Signs", with Mel Gibson.
Too much debris and too little clarity.

[Chester]

Still waiting to hear the names of these mysterious clique members so I can join in that chorus.
There are quite a few how have brought up "the clique" now...
When we get to 1500 testimonies I figure we have enough evidence that such a clique exists.

Hi... I... er, I think I am one of "them." I say that only because I "cliqued into" some things along my journey and began to apply what I learned from my own personal experience as opposed to applying what I have been told by objective "groupthink." I found I don't sit in either the front nor back of the bus... I don't even ride on top of the bus.

I am more like "dumber" (In Dumb and Dumber) that happens to point the way to the next town for the Sun Bathing Beauty Queens hoping to find an "Oil Boy" - missing my shot at... er... some fun?

justonedummy

[ulli]

Still waiting to hear the names of these mysterious clique members so I can join in that chorus.
There are quite a few how have brought up "the clique" now...
When we get to 1500 testimonies I figure we have enough evidence that such a clique exists.

Hi... I... er, I think I am one of "them." I say that only because I "cliqued into" some things along my journey and began to apply what I learned from my own personal experience as opposed to applying what I have been told by objective "groupthink." I found I don't sit in either the front nor back of the bus... I don't even ride on top of the bus.

I am more like "dumber" (In Dumb and Dumber) that happens to point the way to the next town for the Sun Bathing Beauty Queens hoping to find an "Oil Boy" - missing my shot at... er... some fun?

justonedummy

Come on, Chester, you know and I know that you have considerable faculties which you try to use on your journey, to the best of your knowledge, whether on the bus or off the bus.
Only to discover that they did not serve you one iota, as life itself always twists and turns and manages to have that last word.
I can only speak for myself, since I don't live in your shoes, and I found a correlation between the efforts I make and the failures I invite. Because my efforts seem to create the very sand storm that makes my horizon nearly invisible. Time to smell the roses.

[Chester]

Still waiting to hear the names of these mysterious clique members so I can join in that chorus.
There are quite a few how have brought up "the clique" now...
When we get to 1500 testimonies I figure we have enough evidence that such a clique exists.

Hi... I... er, I think I am one of "them." I say that only because I "cliqued into" some things along my journey and began to apply what I learned from my own personal experience as opposed to applying what I have been told by objective "groupthink." I found I don't sit in either the front nor back of the bus... I don't even ride on top of the bus.

I am more like "dumber" (In Dumb and Dumber) that happens to point the way to the next town for the Sun Bathing Beauty Queens hoping to find an "Oil Boy" - missing my shot at... er... some fun?

justonedummy

Come on, Chester, you know and I know that you have considerable faculties which you try to use on your journey, to the best of your knowledge, whether on the bus or off the bus.
Only to discover that they did not serve you one iota, as life itself always twists and turns and manages to have that last word.
I can only speak for myself, since I don't live in your shoes, and I found a correlation between the efforts I make and the failures I invite. Because my efforts seem to create the very sand storm that makes my horizon nearly invisible. Time to smell the roses.

Ok ok... I will go ahead and take the Oil Boy job and smell the roses along the way... Thanks for the Hammer, Ulli. ;)

[ulli]

Still waiting to hear the names of these mysterious clique members so I can join in that chorus.
There are quite a few how have brought up "the clique" now...
When we get to 1500 testimonies I figure we have enough evidence that such a clique exists.

Hi... I... er, I think I am one of "them." I say that only because I "cliqued into" some things along my journey and began to apply what I learned from my own personal experience as opposed to applying what I have been told by objective "groupthink." I found I don't sit in either the front nor back of the bus... I don't even ride on top of the bus.

I am more like "dumber" (In Dumb and Dumber) that happens to point the way to the next town for the Sun Bathing Beauty Queens hoping to find an "Oil Boy" - missing my shot at... er... some fun?

justonedummy

Come on, Chester, you know and I know that you have considerable faculties which you try to use on your journey, to the best of your knowledge, whether on the bus or off the bus.
Only to discover that they did not serve you one iota, as life itself always twists and turns and manages to have that last word.
I can only speak for myself, since I don't live in your shoes, and I found a correlation between the efforts I make and the failures I invite. Because my efforts seem to create the very sand storm that makes my horizon nearly invisible. Time to smell the roses.

Ok ok... I will go ahead and take the Oil Boy job and smell the roses along the way... Thanks for the Hammer, Ulli. ;)

While there is a choice, why not go for BOTH? No more either- or.
You've got the brains to keep on expanding, just stay away from ambition and emotions of desperation.
Those are only needed on very rare occasions...like when pushing through final barriers.

[Carmody]

This reminds me of my deceased pup. She's be eating, and I'd get down on all fours, and head toward her bowl..and then start trying to steal her food from her. To steal it out of the bowl. To put my head and mouth right where hers was. We'd get into a mock battle, face to face. Poor girl, she'd get all upset. You see, wolf-like dogs, they have to protect their territory, or they actually will starve to death. Thus it is right in their genes. so yes, I'd be teasing her.. and this is the response I'd get, cheek to cheek. Right on the edge of being nips and bites. These dogs appear to be fearless. For the most part they are, as it is all they can do to stay alive.

YUbmt-ze_os

[ulli]

Just now was listening to Salman Rushdie being interviewed on CNN...(yeah yeah, shame on me for watching CNN...)
And he is saying how the Muslims were taking this silly movie from YouTube in order to incite the masses in Iran with it. And he is condemning these political acts of inciting the masses.
But then I was thinking of his own book...The Satanic Verses....
Why then did he choose such a title, knowing full well what response it would get...in what way is such an act any different?
Hammer time.

[Flash]

there is a huge difference between the Satanic Verses and that new stupid video.

The Satanic verses were real writing for one. Second, the only one that was truly harmed for it is its autor. The book was not use to incite people to violence, hatred and riots.

The stupid video is used for these precisely, violence, hatred, inciting riots, and has no value whatsoever apart from these. The way it is used it just for that, may have been created for that.

[ulli]

My point was not to compare the two. at all..
just the underlying motive or wisdom when choosing such a title.
As he himself stated...the vast majority of people never read his book.

[Cartomancer]

Saw this on Facebook. Even though its not Thursday I thought it apropos. -Cort

[Carmody]

i haven't been drunk since I was 19, and split that 40oz of tuh-kill-yuh with a friend, over a 3 hour period. Then we went downtown to get drunk. It's amazing how good tuhkillyuh tastes after about the 10th 1.5oz shot. No more lemon, no salt, and the stuff tastes, like, totally delish! mmmmm.

Until later, of course.

Like when you add about 10 -15 beers on top of it, and then suffer from something akin to acute alcohol poisoning.

warning, don't saunter into the liquor store singing, whistling and dancing to this tune (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FNc0WGhIDU), you might take it seriously. Never shoulda done that...

[ulli]

i haven't been drunk since I was 19, and split that 40oz of tuh-kill-yuh with a friend, over a 3 hour period. Then we went downtown to get drunk. It's amazing how good tuhkillyuh tastes after about the 10th 1.5oz shot. No more lemon, no salt, and the stuff tastes, like, totally delish! mmmmm.

Until later, of course.

Like when you add about 10 -15 beers on top of it, and then suffer from something akin to acute alcohol poisoning.

warning, don't saunter into the liquor store singing, whistling and dancing to this tune (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FNc0WGhIDU), you might take it seriously. Never shoulda done that...

Preferable to drinking Martinis, that's for sure.

I like to have a Martini
Two at the very most
After three I'm under the table
After four I'm under the host.
~ Dorothy Parker



While looking that one up I came across this one...not bad either...
About money

Salary is no object: I want only enough to keep body and soul apart.
New Yorker (4 February 1928)

[13th Warrior]

I don't belong here as I try to live by the motto; "Do unto others, as you would have done unto you..."

Enjoy

Apparently this is how the "higher vibrating" behave???

[13th Warrior]

This reminds me of my deceased pup. She's be eating, and I'd get down on all fours, and head toward her bowl..and then start trying to steal her food from her. To steal it out of the bowl. To put my head and mouth right where hers was. We'd get into a mock battle, face to face. Poor girl, she'd get all upset. You see, wolf-like dogs, they have to protect their territory, or they actually will starve to death. Thus it is right in their genes. so yes, I'd be teasing her.. and this is the response I'd get, cheek to cheek. Right on the edge of being nips and bites. These dogs appear to be fearless. For the most part they are, as it is all they can do to stay alive.

YUbmt-ze_os


You see, wolf-like dogs, they have to protect their territory, or they actually will starve to death.

Evidence suggests that all dogs originated from wolves...

[music]

Saw this on Facebook. Even though its not Thursday I thought it apropos. -Cort

Odinism is my pick for the religion of choice of the Illuminati, so you know where Thor can stick his hammer. Think about the level of prominence themes from Odinism enjoy in the media lately. There are no rules or laws in Odinism, merely virtues. Strength is the highest virtue, love is not a virtue. If we agree that Naziism was a trial run for the NWO, look to the prominence of Odinism within Nazi culture.

[PurpleLama]

Saw this on Facebook. Even though its not Thursday I thought it apropos. -Cort

Odinism is my pick for the religion of choice of the Illuminati, so you know where Thor can stick his hammer. Think about the level of prominence themes from Odinism enjoy in the media lately. There are no rules or laws in Odinism, merely virtues. Strength is the highest virtue, love is not a virtue. If we agree that Naziism was a trial run for the NWO, look to the prominence of Odinism within Nazi culture.

I know several practicing Asatru who might sorely disagree.

[GaelVictor]

Wodan is the celtic Eburonen tribe's upper god and common in Western-Europe, later on also known as Wotan in Eastern-Europe and Odin in Northern-Europe.

Odin (Wodan) stands for wisdom; (knowledge, poetry and literature) and strength; (energy, struggle and war) he is the Aryan equivalent of Hermes Trismegistus or Mercury.

Wednesday was named in honour of him.



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[ulli]

Wake-up call

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/2851771/sn/475454423/name/n_a

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Wake-up call

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/2851771/sn/475454423/name/n_a

Good name choice: Herr Schnell, aufwachen! Schnell, bitte!

[Noble Hops]

Odinism is my pick for the religion of choice of the Illuminati, so you know where Thor can stick his hammer. Think about the level of prominence themes from Odinism enjoy in the media lately. There are no rules or laws in Odinism, merely virtues. Strength is the highest virtue, love is not a virtue. If we agree that Naziism was a trial run for the NWO, look to the prominence of Odinism within Nazi culture.

Highly doubt that. Last time I checked, Judeo-Christianity was one of the main tools of the "Illuminati/NWO/globalists" to achieve their goals. Odinism is not compatible with Judeo-Christianity or monotheism in general, and is being used in this thread as a code-word for 'white supremacy'. If TPTB were truly that and had an "Anglo-Saxon Mission", why the hell have they been purposely flooding Europe, the U.S., Canada, etc., with the 3rd world these past several decades while pushing Marxism?

I haven't seen any evidence that the NWO is pro-Western Civilization in any way.

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Too all the Idiot Wind blowing out there today upsetting the oaks and scattering the butterflies:

-9HPnhIhiQg

[nurgle]

I have recently been very annoyed at cars that have "eco-first" and or "save the world" themed bumper stickers on them. Especially when they honk at me for not crossing the street fast enough. I don't own a car, I walk, maybe I should start wearing a shirt or sign that says "Read your bumper sticker and smash your car!".


-thanks, be safe

[Flash]

Why not read your bumper sticker a ss h l e? In Montreal, it would be non stop screaming at them.