Chester
18th September 2012, 16:11
Hi all - sometimes it is good to beat deadlines. I promised this proposal on my birthday but decided that would be impossible because I officially retire as of midnight tonight sooooooo. Here goes (my last monster post too!)
I see a disconnect...
On the one hand we have Houman’s Horus-Ra thread which after several requests, a solution approach was proposed by Houman and on the other hand we have Avalon which was built upon a foundation of many things, but one of them being “a safe place.”
The dilemma is clear. If we take Houman’s approach, every single human being within the “we” will become a target of other human beings who would go to any lengths to stop each and every human being within the “we.”
If we allow the “safe place” to remain “safe” (safe meaning that people would never be overly or directly challenged as to their situation and the possibility that they, themselves, play some role in the manifestation of their own predicament because it might be destructive to their own emotional stability)... and we consider that if this rule should apply within Avalon (as is the creator’s wish and a wish I am behooved to respect), is it possible that this rule is an example of taking the high road of life in general? And if so, should an individual apply this rule to the world in general? Apply this rule to each and every situation where they encounter another human being? To each and every situation where they encounter an animal being of any kind? That we should take this all the way to the plant kingdom and to every other physical realm kingdom that we could all agree is of Mother Earth?
My point is – we cannot have it both ways. We will never ever resolve the current situation by creating a “we” within the vast “us” that attempts to attack another part of “us.” In this last statement “us” means all physical existence within all material realms. You can then take sub groups and bring it down to all life within all material realms. You can take another sub group and make it all sentient life within all material realms. You can take it all the way to any “we vs they” dynamic but you will never get a single individual within the we to perpetually agree with any other single individual as to who fits within the we and who then is relegated to the they.
So the bottom line is that it is all and only up to each individual to extricate themselves from any “matrix” they perceive to exist. Based on all the restraints we place upon ourselves... at least in these current times, only a single individual can “save” that same single individual.
So it boils down to this as far as ever reaching that magical 100th monkey. Assume you are an individual that believes there is this matrix. So for you, the matrix exists. You then might believe that you and/or one or more of the rest of us are trapped within this matrix. You have your own definition as to what this matrix is and that is all that matters.
You have the following points of view, choices to believe. By believing in one (or more) you cannot escape the fact that you and all others are identified.
Viewpoint A: That this matrix has everyone trapped and that neither you nor anyone else can ever get out of it unless the entire material realms are dissolved and for eternity (which may or may not dissolve some or all beings that ever entered the material realms).
Viewpoint B: That most are trapped within this matrix save perhaps yourself and/or a few other folks.
Viewpoint C: That you are trapped within this matrix but that you believe one or more of the rest of us have somehow managed to escape.
Viewpoint D: That you have escaped and a few more of us have escaped and that it is up to these escapees to save the rest of us who are trapped within this matrix.
Viewpoint E: That you have escaped and only you can save the rest of us.
Viewpoint F: That you have escaped and are now moving on and allowing all the rest to remain within the matrix.
Viewpoint G: That you and others have escaped and are allowing the rest of us to remain within the matrix such that we can escape “in our own time.”
Viewpoint H: That you have escaped and somehow found yourself in realms where you see the matrix as not such a big deal.
Viewpoint I: That you have extricated yourself from this matrix and found yourself discovering that this matrix is nothing more than an illusion of your own creation.
Viewpoint J: That you find yourself in a life experience where you are aware there may perhaps be some matrix within the point of view of a group of other human beings but that you don’t seem to have any experience with this matrix.
Viewpoint K: That you are living a life experience where you are never made aware of any matrix and never consider there to be any matrix.
Now, I have done my very best to list every possible point of view relative to the matrix. I did so because I see the pathway to solution for anyone within any of the above listed points of view groupings other than Viewpoint A.
Viewpoint A conclusion possibilities: There is no solution available to anyone within this matrix. You are trapped within this matrix for the rest of your material realm experiences and cannot ever experience relief until all material realms are dissolved for eternity.
Viewpoint B conclusion possibilities: If you are trapped in this scenario then your only hope is to be saved by some outside agency which could be of some type of form, even a physical formed being and/or saved by divine intervention. If you are one of the ones who are not trapped, you can attempt to save others who you perceive are trapped or you can focus upon remaining free yourself or you can attempt to do both if that is possible.
Viewpoint C conclusion possibilities: In this scenario your only hope is some outside agency saves you. It could be any manifestation of some outside agency ranging anywhere from a physical realm one or more entities all the way to a divine intervention, anything in between and any combination of these.
Viewpoint D conclusion possibilities: You must identify who the other escapees are and then form a group which then takes on the task of saving the rest of us.
Viewpoint E conclusion possibilities: You are the one and only savior and the fate of all within the material realms is solely in your own hands.
Viewpoint F conclusion possibilities: You escaped and made the decision that it is not your place to impose yourself upon others as each person should be allowed their own time to extricate themselves from this matrix. You might be available to share with others how you achieved self-extrication, but this is the extent of your involvement with current prisoners.
Viewpoint G conclusion possibilities: This is the same as Viewpoint F conclusion possibilities above but at least you find yourself not alone on the other side. Still, you and the others decide not to attempt any extrication of others though you and the other escapees might make yourselves available to share with others how you achieved self-extrication (or were extricated) but would not venture beyond this point.
Viewpoint H conclusion possibilities: At this point it is all and only about your willingness and ability to share your own personal experience. You would have to be a master at discernment as to where that magical line is found in relation to on one side helping someone and on the other side imposing what you believe to be their solution.
Viewpoint I conclusion possibilities: Again, just as in Viewpoint H conclusion possibilities - It is all and only about your willingness and ability to share your own personal experience. You would have to be a master at discernment as to where that magical line is found in relation to on one side helping someone and on the other side imposing what you believe to be their solution.
Viewpoint J conclusion possibilities: At this point you might make yourself available to others in such a way that you allow others to entertain themselves with their concept that there might be this matrix and you might seek the best way possible to assist these others with any life issues they perceive themselves to have based upon their opinion of the existence of said matrix. You would likely avoid being brought into their point of view as you have found for yourself there is no matrix.
Viewpoint K conclusion possibilities: This point of view exists here on earth at this time within some human beings. Most of the human beings within this group are perceived to have some form of mental handicap, may be classified as autistic or retarded or all but completely brain dead. There are also others within this group who never entertain any thoughts that could be classified as fear thoughts and never encounter anything they perceive to create fear within them. Perhaps an indigenous tribe yet to be “discovered” where they found a way to live harmoniously with all nature, including animals and plants that might harm or kill their physical body.
OK, so I have about covered all the possibilities and I have defined all the sub groups of who you might be (individually) within all these possibilities so lets go through the final exercise of how solution could be achieved based on each point of view and who you might be within the particular point of view.
Viewpoint A solution proposal: We must figure out a way to destroy all material realms or accept the situation as it is, make the best of it while the material realms are in existence and love our fellow Spirit Being that we deem is not a conscious participant of the “archontic structure” and protect ourselves or fight any Spirit Being we deem is consciously aligned with the “archontic forces.”
Viewpoint B solution proposal: Depending on which group you perceive yourself to be within this scenario determines what you may or may not be able to do to achieve solution. You wait to be saved. Or you can save one or more of the rest of us. Or you can remain safe and perhaps at the end of the day you are the only one left and thus the entire material realm will no longer pose a problem.
Viewpoint C solution proposal: You need patience as your salvation can only come from some outside agency.
Viewpoint D solution proposal: You must be willing to go to any lengths to defeat the archontic forces. Within this scenario you must also risk trusting others. Also within this scenario you must have very good discernment as to who you can trust. Finally, within this scenario you must be part of a force which stands a chance in overcoming the archontic forces. And at the end of the day you and your group must have a plan going forward for the survivors such that the archontic forces can never rise again to their former ruling status.
Viewpoint E solution proposal: It is all up to you and thus you must do whatever it might take to save all Spirit Beings trapped within the matrix. If you succeed, very good. If you do not, what did it all matter anyways?
Viewpoint F solution proposal: In this scenario, you are required to be patient and though you make yourself available to others who seek assistance from their archontic nightmare, you are limited to your own self-imposed requirement in allowing each and every other Spirit being their own time to achieve final and permanent resolution. This perhaps may take lifetimes. In fact, this may take thousands of lifetimes.
Viewpoint G solution proposal: You follow the same pathway as Viewpoint F solution proposal but have the luxury of company along the way.
Viewpoint H solution proposal: This is a variation of Viewpoint F solution proposal and perhaps Viewpoint G solution proposal but that at your own experiential level at least, you are barely affected by any so called matrix.
Viewpoint I solution proposal: You follow Viewpoint H solution proposal and make sure you never allow yourself to create and/or buy into the matrix illusion creation ever again.
Viewpoint J solution proposal: You are so far removed from any matrix that your teaching is simply your being with one simple exception, you are aware one or more other Spirit Beings believe in some matrix.
Viewpoint K solution proposal: You and all Spirit beings you encounter have no clue there even is any matrix – thus a solution for K cannot even exist.
OK, so now we have identified all possible points of view, have identified within each point of view what sub group of Spirit Being you might belong as well as what sub group of Spirit Being others might belong and we have explored the realistic solution approaches based upon each point of view.
Now I will present the solution pathway within the most encroaching point of view that has within it a real potential for solution (meaning we must exclude viewpoint A as from this point of view, there is no solution). And this would be achieved within our physical realm experience and focused upon a “we” that is human beings and/or other forms of life we deem to be non-conscious participants of the archontic forces and this can only be suggested based on the possibilities of B, C, D and E.
That a safe place be created for anyone who fits within the following sub group within the “we” sub group.
Victims of any form of archontic intrusion.
Unwilling participants of archontic activity.
Forced observers of archontic activity.
Actual current and/or former conscious participants of archonticly manifested imposition who have a true desire to extricate themselves from this role or remain extricated if they are of the former participant sub group.
A safe place must be created for anyone in the above sub groups. It is my strongest recommendation that anyone who enters a program which can ensure them of safety not be able to be perceived as a threat to any of the archonticly aligned Spirit Beings. This includes any within the “we” who are assisting anyone within the above sub category of “we” – the 4 listed sub groups from taking any information they may come upon in the process of assisting anyone who has entered the program that could be used in the external world against any participant of archontic practices. The reason for this strong recommendation is that it is the opinion of this writer that at the end of the day, the entire archontic structure is fueled by the emotional energies generated by us all when these energies are of the lower, denser frequencies. Since it has been proven well enough to at least this writer the truth that fear energies are of a lower and denser frequency range at that the energies of Love are of a higher, less dense frequency range, usage of any form of force which would likely result in some form of lower frequency, lower density energy manifestation would simply feed the monster in charge of the entire archontic structure and thus would never have a chance of success.
Now to obtain one or more of these safe places, “we” must acquire the funding to create these one or more safe places. We must also have the patience to learn what works or not within these safe places that results in relief for each individual as to their particular experience of archontic influence against their will.
For example, I refer to my post proposal for those who may be victims of abductions (and this would encompass the milab as well as the non milab abductee who has experienced their abduction physically as well as any abductee that has experienced abduction only through their mind (as memory, etc). Of course this would mean anyone who has been abducted that has been emotionally damaged.
That post is found here –
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48439-Horus-Ra-gathering-solution-ideas-thread&p=551813&viewfull=1#post551813
And now, we simply apply the same approach used for the above types of abductees to those within the sub group of “we” who have somehow been victims of the Satanic Cabal. Again, to make it clear, we are speaking of anyone who is a victim, anyone who has been an unwilling participant, anyone who has been forced to observe or any current or former conscious participant that seeks relief from their archontic experience.
Again, no one who is a part of the archontic imposition can ever be threatened in any way by anyone assisting someone seeking relief nor anyone who has entered the program seeking relief. Any other approach, in the opinion of this writer, would fail.
OK, so one last consideration. Since we have those amongst the “we” who may require what they deem to be objective proof, then I recommend that there be two approaches applied towards resolution of any single individual’s archontic experience that has entered the program. One approach is based on the allowance of the viewpoint of what we are dealing with as to the actual nature of the archontic structure as perceived by Observer and those who are in alignment with his view. The other approach allows for a wider view which encompasses the possibility that an individual can extricate themselves from archontic influence such that they may still exist within one or more material realms and be eternally free of archontic control.
Then we simply see which approach achieves the greatest percentages of success and based on it being one or the other, we focus our available resources more so upon that more successful approach.
OK, Finally – for F, G, H, I and J it is all and only about you. You are accepting that the only collective solution would be found when and if that magical hundredth monkey is reached. You accept that this can only be achieved by the individual one by one.
And lastly, viewpoint K – Clearly there is no matrix for those who are of this viewpoint and thus no solution is required.
Now we are at the threshold of all. And that is to consider all possibility of a single Spirit Being as to their soul’s past, present and future.
You must decide for yourself if your soul was once (or ever) existing within any reality where there was no matrix.
If the answer is “Yes,” then you must decide how you got into the matrix mess. Was it ever your choice to be in the matrix? If the answer is “Yes,” do you see how you are the one actually responsible for your predicament? If you are responsible for getting yourself into the mess, does that imply you must also get yourself out? If the answer to that is, “No,” then you are relegated to waiting for a savior, waiting for divine intervention or waiting for the total dissolution of all material realms (back to A). If the answer to the question that it must be you who gets yourself out of the matrix then you must decide that if you do, is it right for you to save anyone else? If you answer, “No,” it is not right then you see you are relegated to F up to J.
Now what if you have decided it was not your choice to be within this matrix? Are you able to accept some creator being that allowed you to be subject to such a fate? If the answer is “Yes,” are you able to get past that possible issue and believe there could be solution?
Let’s say you accept a creator being made the realms where within these realms are sub realms you like to call the material realms. And that you somehow find yourself within these material realms. Are you willing to accept you might have been a victim and yet will still rely on some greater being to extricate you from these material realms even though you must also accept that same being created the realms of possibility such that any sub being could create these material realms? Logic makes that one a bit hard to reconcile unless one considers maybe there is something more to all this than I am currently open to believing. This writer accepts this possibility and has accepted the possibility that my ultimate creator has a master plan that I am currently incapable of believing but that the alternative is a wee bit less attractive. But excuse me for interjecting my view.
Now let’s say that we perceive these material realms to have been created by some evil sub entity of our original creator (or perhaps ourselves based on our belief we were given the power to create) then we are in one of two groups. The “we” who are not archontically aligned and the “we” who are. So if the realm was created by some evil sub entity that was originally created by our original creator, then we must defeat this evil entity. If the evil entity was a creation of ourselves, then we still must defeat this evil entity, yes?
OK, so lets look at an evil sub entity created by the original creator. How is it possible we would trust and original creator that created the possibility of creating an evil entity that then creates a realm where all the horrors we experience within this perceived matrix we are all relegated to? I cannot and thus I can only accept the other possibility. And that possibility is that I along with the rest of us created this very sub entity. Now here is how I achieved solution for myself. Having concluded I was one of us who created this evil entity and that I am only able to achieve solution for myself, first, and that even if I actually achieve solution for myself I find myself stuck in a likely truth that I cannot defeat this evil entity unless I experience its defeat through my expression of the higher, less dense energies... the energies of Love, then all I can do is get on top of this situation as an individual.
How I did this was I invited the very single being to fully manifest within myself. Once I did that, I captured the being and then proceeded to tame this dragon through my application of Love which was achieved through understanding.
The dragon is my ego. The dragon manifests through the material realms and through the experiential vehicles of bodies. I accept this as part of my nature. I love this aspect of myself. And it took me one day short of 55 years to respect this aspect of myself. Now I have the rest of my life (and lives and any other forms of experience) to see if I indeed learned this simple lesson.
Perhaps this planet will be destroyed by either ourselves or by more powerful beings. But I will never be destroyed. Perhaps one day I find myself in an experiential realm where there is no destruction – only extension. That is the goal of my soul which is coupled hand in hand with an equal goal, that I see us all there too.
I am going to enjoy my last day in the job. Again as of midnight, I am officially retired. You’ll find me hanging out over in the spirituality threads. I do have one small reservation though. I fear I may be like those professional boxers. You know... the ones who can be goaded out of retirement? YUCK!!!
Love to All
Chester (justoneman)
I see a disconnect...
On the one hand we have Houman’s Horus-Ra thread which after several requests, a solution approach was proposed by Houman and on the other hand we have Avalon which was built upon a foundation of many things, but one of them being “a safe place.”
The dilemma is clear. If we take Houman’s approach, every single human being within the “we” will become a target of other human beings who would go to any lengths to stop each and every human being within the “we.”
If we allow the “safe place” to remain “safe” (safe meaning that people would never be overly or directly challenged as to their situation and the possibility that they, themselves, play some role in the manifestation of their own predicament because it might be destructive to their own emotional stability)... and we consider that if this rule should apply within Avalon (as is the creator’s wish and a wish I am behooved to respect), is it possible that this rule is an example of taking the high road of life in general? And if so, should an individual apply this rule to the world in general? Apply this rule to each and every situation where they encounter another human being? To each and every situation where they encounter an animal being of any kind? That we should take this all the way to the plant kingdom and to every other physical realm kingdom that we could all agree is of Mother Earth?
My point is – we cannot have it both ways. We will never ever resolve the current situation by creating a “we” within the vast “us” that attempts to attack another part of “us.” In this last statement “us” means all physical existence within all material realms. You can then take sub groups and bring it down to all life within all material realms. You can take another sub group and make it all sentient life within all material realms. You can take it all the way to any “we vs they” dynamic but you will never get a single individual within the we to perpetually agree with any other single individual as to who fits within the we and who then is relegated to the they.
So the bottom line is that it is all and only up to each individual to extricate themselves from any “matrix” they perceive to exist. Based on all the restraints we place upon ourselves... at least in these current times, only a single individual can “save” that same single individual.
So it boils down to this as far as ever reaching that magical 100th monkey. Assume you are an individual that believes there is this matrix. So for you, the matrix exists. You then might believe that you and/or one or more of the rest of us are trapped within this matrix. You have your own definition as to what this matrix is and that is all that matters.
You have the following points of view, choices to believe. By believing in one (or more) you cannot escape the fact that you and all others are identified.
Viewpoint A: That this matrix has everyone trapped and that neither you nor anyone else can ever get out of it unless the entire material realms are dissolved and for eternity (which may or may not dissolve some or all beings that ever entered the material realms).
Viewpoint B: That most are trapped within this matrix save perhaps yourself and/or a few other folks.
Viewpoint C: That you are trapped within this matrix but that you believe one or more of the rest of us have somehow managed to escape.
Viewpoint D: That you have escaped and a few more of us have escaped and that it is up to these escapees to save the rest of us who are trapped within this matrix.
Viewpoint E: That you have escaped and only you can save the rest of us.
Viewpoint F: That you have escaped and are now moving on and allowing all the rest to remain within the matrix.
Viewpoint G: That you and others have escaped and are allowing the rest of us to remain within the matrix such that we can escape “in our own time.”
Viewpoint H: That you have escaped and somehow found yourself in realms where you see the matrix as not such a big deal.
Viewpoint I: That you have extricated yourself from this matrix and found yourself discovering that this matrix is nothing more than an illusion of your own creation.
Viewpoint J: That you find yourself in a life experience where you are aware there may perhaps be some matrix within the point of view of a group of other human beings but that you don’t seem to have any experience with this matrix.
Viewpoint K: That you are living a life experience where you are never made aware of any matrix and never consider there to be any matrix.
Now, I have done my very best to list every possible point of view relative to the matrix. I did so because I see the pathway to solution for anyone within any of the above listed points of view groupings other than Viewpoint A.
Viewpoint A conclusion possibilities: There is no solution available to anyone within this matrix. You are trapped within this matrix for the rest of your material realm experiences and cannot ever experience relief until all material realms are dissolved for eternity.
Viewpoint B conclusion possibilities: If you are trapped in this scenario then your only hope is to be saved by some outside agency which could be of some type of form, even a physical formed being and/or saved by divine intervention. If you are one of the ones who are not trapped, you can attempt to save others who you perceive are trapped or you can focus upon remaining free yourself or you can attempt to do both if that is possible.
Viewpoint C conclusion possibilities: In this scenario your only hope is some outside agency saves you. It could be any manifestation of some outside agency ranging anywhere from a physical realm one or more entities all the way to a divine intervention, anything in between and any combination of these.
Viewpoint D conclusion possibilities: You must identify who the other escapees are and then form a group which then takes on the task of saving the rest of us.
Viewpoint E conclusion possibilities: You are the one and only savior and the fate of all within the material realms is solely in your own hands.
Viewpoint F conclusion possibilities: You escaped and made the decision that it is not your place to impose yourself upon others as each person should be allowed their own time to extricate themselves from this matrix. You might be available to share with others how you achieved self-extrication, but this is the extent of your involvement with current prisoners.
Viewpoint G conclusion possibilities: This is the same as Viewpoint F conclusion possibilities above but at least you find yourself not alone on the other side. Still, you and the others decide not to attempt any extrication of others though you and the other escapees might make yourselves available to share with others how you achieved self-extrication (or were extricated) but would not venture beyond this point.
Viewpoint H conclusion possibilities: At this point it is all and only about your willingness and ability to share your own personal experience. You would have to be a master at discernment as to where that magical line is found in relation to on one side helping someone and on the other side imposing what you believe to be their solution.
Viewpoint I conclusion possibilities: Again, just as in Viewpoint H conclusion possibilities - It is all and only about your willingness and ability to share your own personal experience. You would have to be a master at discernment as to where that magical line is found in relation to on one side helping someone and on the other side imposing what you believe to be their solution.
Viewpoint J conclusion possibilities: At this point you might make yourself available to others in such a way that you allow others to entertain themselves with their concept that there might be this matrix and you might seek the best way possible to assist these others with any life issues they perceive themselves to have based upon their opinion of the existence of said matrix. You would likely avoid being brought into their point of view as you have found for yourself there is no matrix.
Viewpoint K conclusion possibilities: This point of view exists here on earth at this time within some human beings. Most of the human beings within this group are perceived to have some form of mental handicap, may be classified as autistic or retarded or all but completely brain dead. There are also others within this group who never entertain any thoughts that could be classified as fear thoughts and never encounter anything they perceive to create fear within them. Perhaps an indigenous tribe yet to be “discovered” where they found a way to live harmoniously with all nature, including animals and plants that might harm or kill their physical body.
OK, so I have about covered all the possibilities and I have defined all the sub groups of who you might be (individually) within all these possibilities so lets go through the final exercise of how solution could be achieved based on each point of view and who you might be within the particular point of view.
Viewpoint A solution proposal: We must figure out a way to destroy all material realms or accept the situation as it is, make the best of it while the material realms are in existence and love our fellow Spirit Being that we deem is not a conscious participant of the “archontic structure” and protect ourselves or fight any Spirit Being we deem is consciously aligned with the “archontic forces.”
Viewpoint B solution proposal: Depending on which group you perceive yourself to be within this scenario determines what you may or may not be able to do to achieve solution. You wait to be saved. Or you can save one or more of the rest of us. Or you can remain safe and perhaps at the end of the day you are the only one left and thus the entire material realm will no longer pose a problem.
Viewpoint C solution proposal: You need patience as your salvation can only come from some outside agency.
Viewpoint D solution proposal: You must be willing to go to any lengths to defeat the archontic forces. Within this scenario you must also risk trusting others. Also within this scenario you must have very good discernment as to who you can trust. Finally, within this scenario you must be part of a force which stands a chance in overcoming the archontic forces. And at the end of the day you and your group must have a plan going forward for the survivors such that the archontic forces can never rise again to their former ruling status.
Viewpoint E solution proposal: It is all up to you and thus you must do whatever it might take to save all Spirit Beings trapped within the matrix. If you succeed, very good. If you do not, what did it all matter anyways?
Viewpoint F solution proposal: In this scenario, you are required to be patient and though you make yourself available to others who seek assistance from their archontic nightmare, you are limited to your own self-imposed requirement in allowing each and every other Spirit being their own time to achieve final and permanent resolution. This perhaps may take lifetimes. In fact, this may take thousands of lifetimes.
Viewpoint G solution proposal: You follow the same pathway as Viewpoint F solution proposal but have the luxury of company along the way.
Viewpoint H solution proposal: This is a variation of Viewpoint F solution proposal and perhaps Viewpoint G solution proposal but that at your own experiential level at least, you are barely affected by any so called matrix.
Viewpoint I solution proposal: You follow Viewpoint H solution proposal and make sure you never allow yourself to create and/or buy into the matrix illusion creation ever again.
Viewpoint J solution proposal: You are so far removed from any matrix that your teaching is simply your being with one simple exception, you are aware one or more other Spirit Beings believe in some matrix.
Viewpoint K solution proposal: You and all Spirit beings you encounter have no clue there even is any matrix – thus a solution for K cannot even exist.
OK, so now we have identified all possible points of view, have identified within each point of view what sub group of Spirit Being you might belong as well as what sub group of Spirit Being others might belong and we have explored the realistic solution approaches based upon each point of view.
Now I will present the solution pathway within the most encroaching point of view that has within it a real potential for solution (meaning we must exclude viewpoint A as from this point of view, there is no solution). And this would be achieved within our physical realm experience and focused upon a “we” that is human beings and/or other forms of life we deem to be non-conscious participants of the archontic forces and this can only be suggested based on the possibilities of B, C, D and E.
That a safe place be created for anyone who fits within the following sub group within the “we” sub group.
Victims of any form of archontic intrusion.
Unwilling participants of archontic activity.
Forced observers of archontic activity.
Actual current and/or former conscious participants of archonticly manifested imposition who have a true desire to extricate themselves from this role or remain extricated if they are of the former participant sub group.
A safe place must be created for anyone in the above sub groups. It is my strongest recommendation that anyone who enters a program which can ensure them of safety not be able to be perceived as a threat to any of the archonticly aligned Spirit Beings. This includes any within the “we” who are assisting anyone within the above sub category of “we” – the 4 listed sub groups from taking any information they may come upon in the process of assisting anyone who has entered the program that could be used in the external world against any participant of archontic practices. The reason for this strong recommendation is that it is the opinion of this writer that at the end of the day, the entire archontic structure is fueled by the emotional energies generated by us all when these energies are of the lower, denser frequencies. Since it has been proven well enough to at least this writer the truth that fear energies are of a lower and denser frequency range at that the energies of Love are of a higher, less dense frequency range, usage of any form of force which would likely result in some form of lower frequency, lower density energy manifestation would simply feed the monster in charge of the entire archontic structure and thus would never have a chance of success.
Now to obtain one or more of these safe places, “we” must acquire the funding to create these one or more safe places. We must also have the patience to learn what works or not within these safe places that results in relief for each individual as to their particular experience of archontic influence against their will.
For example, I refer to my post proposal for those who may be victims of abductions (and this would encompass the milab as well as the non milab abductee who has experienced their abduction physically as well as any abductee that has experienced abduction only through their mind (as memory, etc). Of course this would mean anyone who has been abducted that has been emotionally damaged.
That post is found here –
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48439-Horus-Ra-gathering-solution-ideas-thread&p=551813&viewfull=1#post551813
And now, we simply apply the same approach used for the above types of abductees to those within the sub group of “we” who have somehow been victims of the Satanic Cabal. Again, to make it clear, we are speaking of anyone who is a victim, anyone who has been an unwilling participant, anyone who has been forced to observe or any current or former conscious participant that seeks relief from their archontic experience.
Again, no one who is a part of the archontic imposition can ever be threatened in any way by anyone assisting someone seeking relief nor anyone who has entered the program seeking relief. Any other approach, in the opinion of this writer, would fail.
OK, so one last consideration. Since we have those amongst the “we” who may require what they deem to be objective proof, then I recommend that there be two approaches applied towards resolution of any single individual’s archontic experience that has entered the program. One approach is based on the allowance of the viewpoint of what we are dealing with as to the actual nature of the archontic structure as perceived by Observer and those who are in alignment with his view. The other approach allows for a wider view which encompasses the possibility that an individual can extricate themselves from archontic influence such that they may still exist within one or more material realms and be eternally free of archontic control.
Then we simply see which approach achieves the greatest percentages of success and based on it being one or the other, we focus our available resources more so upon that more successful approach.
OK, Finally – for F, G, H, I and J it is all and only about you. You are accepting that the only collective solution would be found when and if that magical hundredth monkey is reached. You accept that this can only be achieved by the individual one by one.
And lastly, viewpoint K – Clearly there is no matrix for those who are of this viewpoint and thus no solution is required.
Now we are at the threshold of all. And that is to consider all possibility of a single Spirit Being as to their soul’s past, present and future.
You must decide for yourself if your soul was once (or ever) existing within any reality where there was no matrix.
If the answer is “Yes,” then you must decide how you got into the matrix mess. Was it ever your choice to be in the matrix? If the answer is “Yes,” do you see how you are the one actually responsible for your predicament? If you are responsible for getting yourself into the mess, does that imply you must also get yourself out? If the answer to that is, “No,” then you are relegated to waiting for a savior, waiting for divine intervention or waiting for the total dissolution of all material realms (back to A). If the answer to the question that it must be you who gets yourself out of the matrix then you must decide that if you do, is it right for you to save anyone else? If you answer, “No,” it is not right then you see you are relegated to F up to J.
Now what if you have decided it was not your choice to be within this matrix? Are you able to accept some creator being that allowed you to be subject to such a fate? If the answer is “Yes,” are you able to get past that possible issue and believe there could be solution?
Let’s say you accept a creator being made the realms where within these realms are sub realms you like to call the material realms. And that you somehow find yourself within these material realms. Are you willing to accept you might have been a victim and yet will still rely on some greater being to extricate you from these material realms even though you must also accept that same being created the realms of possibility such that any sub being could create these material realms? Logic makes that one a bit hard to reconcile unless one considers maybe there is something more to all this than I am currently open to believing. This writer accepts this possibility and has accepted the possibility that my ultimate creator has a master plan that I am currently incapable of believing but that the alternative is a wee bit less attractive. But excuse me for interjecting my view.
Now let’s say that we perceive these material realms to have been created by some evil sub entity of our original creator (or perhaps ourselves based on our belief we were given the power to create) then we are in one of two groups. The “we” who are not archontically aligned and the “we” who are. So if the realm was created by some evil sub entity that was originally created by our original creator, then we must defeat this evil entity. If the evil entity was a creation of ourselves, then we still must defeat this evil entity, yes?
OK, so lets look at an evil sub entity created by the original creator. How is it possible we would trust and original creator that created the possibility of creating an evil entity that then creates a realm where all the horrors we experience within this perceived matrix we are all relegated to? I cannot and thus I can only accept the other possibility. And that possibility is that I along with the rest of us created this very sub entity. Now here is how I achieved solution for myself. Having concluded I was one of us who created this evil entity and that I am only able to achieve solution for myself, first, and that even if I actually achieve solution for myself I find myself stuck in a likely truth that I cannot defeat this evil entity unless I experience its defeat through my expression of the higher, less dense energies... the energies of Love, then all I can do is get on top of this situation as an individual.
How I did this was I invited the very single being to fully manifest within myself. Once I did that, I captured the being and then proceeded to tame this dragon through my application of Love which was achieved through understanding.
The dragon is my ego. The dragon manifests through the material realms and through the experiential vehicles of bodies. I accept this as part of my nature. I love this aspect of myself. And it took me one day short of 55 years to respect this aspect of myself. Now I have the rest of my life (and lives and any other forms of experience) to see if I indeed learned this simple lesson.
Perhaps this planet will be destroyed by either ourselves or by more powerful beings. But I will never be destroyed. Perhaps one day I find myself in an experiential realm where there is no destruction – only extension. That is the goal of my soul which is coupled hand in hand with an equal goal, that I see us all there too.
I am going to enjoy my last day in the job. Again as of midnight, I am officially retired. You’ll find me hanging out over in the spirituality threads. I do have one small reservation though. I fear I may be like those professional boxers. You know... the ones who can be goaded out of retirement? YUCK!!!
Love to All
Chester (justoneman)