Lindsey Williams update on Gold-Seek Radio

[Paranormal]

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Russia is "abandoning Syria"

At 47 min - Greek Collapse is a distraction. Spain, Ireland, Italy are also distractions. They are getting so far into debt they will HAVE to go into World Govt.

At 48 min - Derivatives & Tom Fowler (Wall St. insider) - reason why they developed derivatives 40 years ago was to bring system down at will!

[ThePythonicCow]

Russia is "abandoning Syria"
As Lindsey notes at 55:07 into the video in the opening post of this thread, that video was recorded Sept 4, 2012 (minor detail, just putting it in its chronological place.)

[Chuck]

For those of you who are like me... I scan Lindsay Williams from time to time for some nuggets, but really dislike waisting my time listening to hype until he spits it out...

Here are some other things he said:


Gold to $3,000/oz
Silver to $75/oz
Oil to $150/barrel
the derivative market will give you hints of the impending US dollar fall
no timing of this that I can gleen


Thanks Paul for the date of interview

[ThePythonicCow]

At 47 min - Greek Collapse is a distraction. Spain, Ireland, Italy are also distractions. They are getting so far into debt they will HAVE to go into World Govt.

At 48 min - Derivatives & Tom Fowler (Wall St. insider) - reason why they developed derivatives 40 years ago was to bring system down at will!

Lindsey claims that Russia has backed off from their support of Syria, and he anticipates that the elite are getting ready to move on Syria, not Iran. He also anticipates that Saudi Arabia will be turned over to the Muslim Brotherhood as well, escalating oil prices above $150, at which time the elite can finish drilling for the immense reserve of abiotic oil on the Alaska north slope.

Lindsey claims that the timing and nature of Eurozone economic/financial/monetary crises matters little in the larger scheme -- those are just mechanizations to get Europe transitioned to the New World Order.

The key financial event for Americans to watch for will be the crash of the derivatives market. He anticipates the following sequence:

currency wars,
trade wars,
a rise in US Treasury debt interest rates, and
the collapse of the derivatives market

We saw another step in the currency wars a week ago (after Lindsey made the above interview) with China increasing the rate that they allow their Yuan to change value relative to the US Dollar from 0.5% to 1.0% per day, and other measures by China to develop trade relations not tied to the US Dollar. Then the introduction of QE3 by Bernanke will further upset the BRICS nations and lead to further weakening of the US Dollar's role in trade. I agree with Lindsey that once US Treasury Debt rates go up, even one-percent, the derivatives market (massive bets on interest rates, debt default and foreign exchange currency rates) will blow up, quickly. This will move major US and European banks to death's door.

Austerity will arrive in America. After a taste of both a major and lasting rise in the cost of oil (and all the related food and gas prices), and also a collapse of the current US financial institutions and government debt (and the related economic collapse), Americans will welcome a "solution". The Fed is dead; long live the Fed. Welcome to the new boss, same as the old boss.

I had been wondering if Germany would move closer to the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation) and disentangle itself from the spiders web of the Eurozone. With Russia backing off its support of the current Syrian government, and with the German high court backing German support of Eurozone debt paper, my hopes are fading.

It's a bit of a (another) sad day, when I find myself glad that "they" are only getting ready to attack Syria, not Iran. Perhaps the great armada of NATO ships sailing for area near the Persian Gulf are sailing there to ensure that Iran does not materially interfere with operations in Syria. Perhaps, hopefully, Israel really is not in the final days of preparing for a major attack on Iran.

[norman]

Then there's the Liberty Rig up in the Arctic ocean:

http://northslopeoil.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/liberty-extended-reach-drill-rig/


"Liberty Extended-Reach Drill Rig
Posted on April 20, 2010

The Liberty prospect lies roughly 5 miles offshore in the western part of the Beaufort Sea, and is anticipated to produce 100 million barrels of oil. Early planning was for drilling from an artificial island, but advances in extended-reach drilling will allow BP to produce the field from existing onshore facilities."

[ThePythonicCow]

currency wars,
The next round in the currency wars, or in this case the related debt paper wars: Bond Wars: Chinese Advisor Calls For Japanese Bond Dump (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/bond-wars-chinese-advisor-calls-japanese-bond-dump)






Earlier today we casually wondered whether the US stands to lose more by supporting China or Japan in their escalating diplomatic spat, considering the threat of a US Treasury sell off is certainly not negligible, a dilemma complicated by the fact that as today's TIC data indicated both nations own almost the same amount of US paper, just over $1.1 trillion. In a stunning turn of events, it appears that China has taken our thought experiment a step further and as the Telegraph's Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reports, based on a recommendation by Jin Baisong from the Chinese Academy of International Trade (a branch of the commerce ministry) China is actively considering "using its power as Japan’s biggest creditor with $230bn (£141bn) of bonds to "impose sanctions on Japan in the most effective manner" and bring Tokyo’s festering fiscal crisis to a head." I.e., dump Japan's bonds en masse.

Should this stunning recommendation be enacted, not only would it be the first time in world history that insurmountable credit is used as a weapon of retaliation, it would mark a clear phase transition in the evolution of modern warfare: from outright military incursions, to FX wars, to trade wars, culminating with "bond wars" which could in the span of minutes cripple the entire Japanese fiscal house of cards still standing solely due to the myth that unserviceable debt can be pushed off into perpetuity (as previously discussed here).

Not needing further explanation is the reality that should China commence a wholesale Japanese bond dump, it may well lead to that long anticipated Japanese bond market collapse, as creditor after creditor proceeds to sell into a market in which the BOJ is the buyer of only resort in the best case, and into a bidless market in the worst.

The immediate outcome would be soaring inflation as the BOJ is forced to monetize debt for dear life, buying up first hundreds of billions, then trillions in the secondary market to avoid a complete rout, matched by trillions of reserves created out of thin air which may or may not be halted by the Japanese deflationary gate, and which most certainly could waterfall into the economy especially if Japanese citizens take this as an all clear signal that the Japanese economy is about to be crippled in all out economic warfare with the most dangerous such opponent, and one which just defected from the "global insolvent creditor" game of Mutual Assured Destruction.

Further complicating things is that Japan has no clear means of retaliation: it owns no Chinese bonds of its own it can dump as a containment measure. Instead, Japan is at best left with the threat of damages incurred on the Chinese economy should Japan be lost as a trading parting. It appears, however, that to China such a gambit is no longer a major concern:



Mr Jin said China can afford to sacrifice its “low-value-added” exports to Japan at a small cost. By contrast, Japan relies on Chinese demand to keep its economy afloat and stave off “irreversible” decline.

“It’s clear that China can deal a heavy blow to the Japanese economy without hurting itself too much,” he said. It is unclear whether he was speaking with the full backing of the Politburo or whether sales of Japanese debt would do much damage. The Bank of Japan could counter the move with bond purchases. Any weakening of the yen would be welcome.
Yes, but any offsetting Japanese hyperinflation would not, which is precisely what would happen if after 30+ years of dormancy the Japanese bond vigilantes were woken up by none other than a cuddly Panda bear with very murderous intentions.

Ironically, this terminal bond war escalation would also mean that Japan's last ditch alternative is to threaten the US with dumping America's bonds in turn if the US i) does not step up on behalf of Japan and ii) if Japan is forced to promptly convert debt from one denomination into another. The fallout effect would be most dramatic.

It is unclear if China will proceed with this "scorched bond" step: should this happen there is likely no turning back as it would force a market test of the entire developed world. And as our readers know all too well, the entire developed world is insolvent, and the only reason why it has perpetuated the illustion that all is well, is because being a closed system, nobody has the incentive to defect. Until now that is, when suddenly over a piece of rock in the East China Sea, China may find itself pulling the pin on the global debt grenade.

[blufire]

The past few weeks here in the deep Appalachia it has been very telling as to what our country’s future position as an economy may be and even perhaps where our country overall is headed.

Two months ago, the areas main gas drilling company (in southwest Virginia) has all but shut down. A total of 18 drill rigs were brought back in as far away as Pennsylvania. More telling is the past three weeks the two main coal mining companies in this area laid off over 2500 miners.

Some may say what this has to do with our country’s economy and world position . . . . very simple . . . . China has stopped buying coal and specifically the high quality metallurgical coal that is primarily found here in middle Appalachia. Also, no natural gas (which is cheap) will drive up the price of oil. We are slowly being corned until utter desperation sets in and we will readily accept a global government.

A Global Government is absolutely where we are headed and there is nothing we can do to stop it from occurring . . . . so what can each of us do with this knowledge? Now is the time to use this to our advantage and look down the road to find a solid place to work from when the dust settles. We will have a few very tough years but I am beginning to feel that this global unity maybe the next step in our evolution as a humanity.

[ThePythonicCow]

The past few weeks here in the deep Appalachia it has been very telling as to what our country’s future position as an economy may be and even perhaps where our country overall is headed.
I believe you absolutely nailed it, blufire.

[Paranormal]

The past few weeks here in the deep Appalachia it has been very telling as to what our country’s future position as an economy may be and even perhaps where our country overall is headed.

Two months ago, the areas main gas drilling company (in southwest Virginia) has all but shut down. A total of 18 drill rigs were brought back in as far away as Pennsylvania. More telling is the past three weeks the two main coal mining companies in this area laid off over 2500 miners....

My sympathies go to those 2500 miners - it's going to be tough to find new jobs in this day. I think you're right - they'll kill the US economy until the sheeple "beg" for world Govt! Obviously, if the economy was left alone, Americans would never accept world Govt, but now many will accept it.

[Paranormal]

At 47 min - Greek Collapse is a distraction. Spain, Ireland, Italy are also distractions. They are getting so far into debt they will HAVE to go into World Govt.

At 48 min - Derivatives & Tom Fowler (Wall St. insider) - reason why they developed derivatives 40 years ago was to bring system down at will!.
up, even one-percent, the derivatives market (massive bets on interest rates, debt default and foreign....

Austerity will arrive in America. After a taste of both a major and lasting rise in the cost of oil (and all the related food and gas prices), and also a collapse of the current US financial institutions and government debt (and the related economic collapse), Americans will welcome a "solution". The Fed is dead; long live the Fed. Welcome to the new boss, same as the old boss.

I had been wondering if Germany would move closer to the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation) and disentangle itself from the spiders web of the Eurozone. With Russia backing off its support of the current Syrian government, and with the German high court backing German support of Eurozone debt paper, my hopes are fading.

It's a bit of a (another) sad day, when I find myself glad that "they" are only getting ready to attack Syria, not Iran. Perhaps the great armada of NATO ships sailing for area near the Persian Gulf are sailing there to ensure that Iran does not materially interfere with operations in Syria. Perhaps, hopefully, Israel really is not in the final days of preparing for a major attack on Iran.

I'm amazed the German Court ruled Germany can spend it's money on EU debts! It shows there IS a World Govt and that all major decisions are controlled by them. There's really no freedom anymore! I honestly think the World Economy is being held together until after the US election, and a little while after this the world will fall apart...

[Paranormal]

Here is a new Lindsay Williams interview: It was made around 21 Sept 2012.

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[ThePythonicCow]

Here is a new Lindsay Williams interview: It was made around 21 Sept 2012.

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Here's the blurb for this show, from THE VINNY EASTWOOD SHOW 2012 ARCHIVE (http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/Vinny_Eastwood_12.html)




09/20/2012 Thursday - Pastor Lindsey Williams www.LindseyWilliams.net Reveals some very startling information on the Federal Reserve's moves to devalue the US dollar, foreclose on all remaining US mortgages and rent all homes back to their owners. They will make up $40 billion dollars a month to buy mortgages, then use fractional reserve lending and the derivatives market to destroy the currency so they can bring in their New World Order and the one world currency. Today's short clip is an intensively edited version of the whole show with only the good info left in, about 25 minutes total, please spread this around and warn people! This must be stopped, by any means necessary.

[ThePythonicCow]

Here's the blurb for this show, from THE VINNY EASTWOOD SHOW 2012 ARCHIVE (http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/Vinny_Eastwood_12.html)




09/20/2012 Thursday - Pastor Lindsey Williams www.LindseyWilliams.net Reveals some very startling information on the Federal Reserve's moves to devalue the US dollar, foreclose on all remaining US mortgages and rent all homes back to their owners. They will make up $40 billion dollars a month to buy mortgages, then use fractional reserve lending and the derivatives market to destroy the currency so they can bring in their New World Order and the one world currency.
OK - I've listened through this, skipping a bit here and there.

Lindsey was a bit more wordy than even usual for him ... he is skilled at filling arbitrarily large time slots with arbitrarily small content (do they teach that in "Minister" school?).

He said:

A week prior, the Federal Reserve (Fed) announced they were purchasing $40 Billion per month of Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS), a well known fact.
The Fed was then going to "invest" those MBS in derivatives on interest rates, investing at a ration of 10 to 1 (so called "fractional reserve" lending).
The banks that sold these MBS to the Fed were going to invest the money they earned selling those MBS into US Treasuries.

So after three months, those banks would hold another $120 Billion of US Treasuries, and the Fed would hold another Trillion Dollars of derivatives on interest rates.

In my words, this shows how the Fed will, for now, continue to keep interest rates near zero and continue to insure there is a market for US Treasuries. The Fed continues to replace the collapsing market for US debt with a shell game.

[ThePythonicCow]

The next day, Sept 21, 2012, Lindsey was on Goldseek Radio (http://www.goldseek.com) with Chris Waltzek, telling a similar message:


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Here's the summary from the new website lindseywilliams.net (http://www.lindseywilliams.net/) for this Goldseek show:



Lindsey Williams on Gold Seek Radio with Chris Waltzek for the second time in September 2012. Pastor Williams discusses the latest information about the elite’s plan for global domination including the mortgage takeover.

Summary: The Federal Reserve will buy toxic mortgage backed securities at the rate of $40 Billion a month indefinitely. These toxic assets will be used to buy derivatives that multiplied by fractional methodology will see trillions of dollars created from nothing. The banks that the Federal Reserve will buy these securities from will use the money to buy US treasuries and not be used to help the economy. The same is happening in other western countries including Europe. The estimated $600 Trillion to $1.5 Quadrillion derivatives market will be used to bring down every currency in the World simultaneously so that the humanity will be begging the elite to give them a new world electronic currency. However, this will not happen until the elite, via their corporate interests own all the real estate in the US. Furthermore, margin requirements will be raised again on gold and silver in order to control another price spike, however Pastor Williams’ source was not sure it would work next time.

[ThePythonicCow]

Here's the Big picture, in my view:

In a healthy monetary system, each nation issues it's own debt free currency, representing receipts for goods, services, and warehoused food received by the nation, and accepted as payments for taxes, tariffs, fees and redistributed food.
The Banksters attack such a system by first issuing gold backed currency, which displaces the national currency.
The Banksters then replace the gold backed currency with debt backed currency. They can "print" such currency at the stroke of a chisel, pen or keyboard, but rarely do so except in exchange for a lien on some property, some debt collateral.
They then make that currency increasingly worthless, maximizing the amount of debt outstanding and centralizing control of the debt paper. Nations, corporations and individuals are driven into more debt than they can ever repay, only able to meet the payment schedule so long as the economy is "healthy".
That "worthless" currency eventually begins to behave like national debt free currency, in that issuing more of it can no longer leverage more indebtedness, so they crash the economy and the currency, foreclose on the debtors, and go back to step (2) with a new "gold backed" currency that will be "welcomed" by all those "subject" to this economic and monetary manipulation.

It has taken the Banksters about one century to almost complete the above cycle in the United States. In 1912, the US was issuing its own, debt-free, national currency. The Federal Reserve was created in 1913. By the Great Depression of the 1930's, US national currency was fairly much driven out by gold backed Federal Reserve notes, and private ownership of gold was made illegal in the USA. By the 1970's, the gold backing of the US Dollar was entirely removed and an immense debt bubble began to inflate. That debt bubble is in its final stages now, being heavily centralized in control of the Federal Reserve, so that they can crash the Dollar and foreclose on all who owe money in US Dollars or any other currency tied to the Dollar.

They, the elite, intend to crash the economies and the paper currencies of the world, replacing the various central bank currencies with a single electronic world currency, and foreclosing on debtors. That world currency will have apparent gold backing ... but the elite hold most of that gold, far more gold than is admitted to in public, which will leave them in control of that currency, able to start a new round of currency debasement, extracting even more of the world's energy, labor and resources.

I should credit Joseph P. Farrell's Babylon's Banksters (http://amzn.com/1932595791) for steps (1)-(4) above. I added (5) myself just now.

Gold and silver are the "currency of the Gods" ... of the demi-gods, also known as the Banksters or Lindsey Williams' "elite" or my phrase "The Bastards in Power". These precious metals are the resource which the Banksters use to wrest control of monetary systems from the nations of this earth.

[Calz]

I should credit Joseph P. Farrell's Babylon's Banksters (http://amzn.com/1932595791) for steps (1)-(4) above. I added (5) myself just now.




Anyone interested and not aware, there are many free archived mp3 interviews of Joseph Farrell regarding most all his books (7 on the Babylon's Banksters):


http://www.thebyteshow.com/JosephPFarrell.html

[sygh]

Insider from Raytheon reported to Lindsey Williams U.S. government told themto get ready for the ...'close down of the United States government financially."
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[ThePythonicCow]

Insider from Raytheon reported to Lindsey Williams U.S. government told themto get ready for the ...'close down of the United States government financially."
This interview of Lindsey Williams is from last month, August 2012. It is discussed on the thread Lindsey Williams Update - the US Govt will shut-down soon! (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49099-Lindsey-Williams-Update-the-US-Govt-will-shut-down-soon-), with my synopsis in Post #9 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49099-Lindsey-Williams-Update-the-US-Govt-will-shut-down-soon-&p=545371&viewfull=1#post545371).

[sygh]

Insider from Raytheon reported to Lindsey Williams U.S. government told themto get ready for the ...'close down of the United States government financially."
This interview of Lindsey Williams is from last month, August 2012. It is discussed on the thread Lindsey Williams Update - the US Govt will shut-down soon! (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49099-Lindsey-Williams-Update-the-US-Govt-will-shut-down-soon-), with my synopsis in Post #9 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49099-Lindsey-Williams-Update-the-US-Govt-will-shut-down-soon-&p=545371&viewfull=1#post545371).

Whoops! Darn a month late and a trillion short. Thanks, Paul This is pretty upsetting news. Watched part of the Clinton Global Initiative today a private non-profit philanthropic foundation by the way. The whole initiative sound heartening, that is until it dawns on you that if you had big bucks and didn't want to lose them, you too would start a non-profit global foundation, probably one of the only safe havens around. Not to mention, a whole bunch of high ranking politicos are involved associating themselves with good deeds, or the fact that it is a tax exempt entity in the U.S., and God knows how many other countries around the world. In fact, it looks like... the beginnings of the new world government. Yup, that is exactly what it looks like.

[Arrowwind]

[At 47 min - Greek Collapse is a distraction. Spain, Ireland, Italy are also distractions. They are getting so far into debt they will HAVE to go into World Govt.

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Or they could choose to go the way of Greenland and Ecuador. Dissent to the ultimate and refuse to play the game any longer, internally regroup and create a sustainablity within their own boundaries.

[ThePythonicCow]

Or they could choose to go the way of Greenland and Ecuador. Dissent to the ultimate and refuse to play the game any longer, internally regroup and create a sustainablity within their own boundaries.
Did you mean Greenland, or Iceland :) ?

[Arrowwind]

Or they could choose to go the way of Greenland and Ecuador. Dissent to the ultimate and refuse to play the game any longer, internally regroup and create a sustainablity within their own boundaries.
Did you mean Greenland, or Iceland :) ?

Why Iceland of course. Thanks for reading my mind.

[Paranormal]

Here's the blurb for this show, from THE VINNY EASTWOOD SHOW 2012 ARCHIVE (http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/Vinny_Eastwood_12.html)




09/20/2012 Thursday - Pastor Lindsey Williams www.LindseyWilliams.net Reveals some very startling information on the Federal Reserve's moves to devalue the US dollar, foreclose on all remaining US mortgages and rent all homes back to their owners. They will make up $40 billion dollars a month to buy mortgages, then use fractional reserve lending and the derivatives market to destroy the currency so they can bring in their New World Order and the one world currency.
OK - I've listened through this, skipping a bit here and there.

Lindsey was a bit more wordy than even usual for him ... he is skilled at filling arbitrarily large time slots with arbitrarily small content (do they teach that in "Minister" school?).

He said:

A week prior, the Federal Reserve (Fed) announced they were purchasing $40 Billion per month of Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS), a well known fact.
The Fed was then going to "invest" those MBS in derivatives on interest rates, investing at a ration of 10 to 1 (so called "fractional reserve" lending).
The banks that sold these MBS to the Fed were going to invest the money they earned selling those MBS into US Treasuries.

So after three months, those banks would hold another $120 Billion of US Treasuries, and the Fed would hold another Trillion Dollars of derivatives on interest rates.

In my words, this shows how the Fed will, for now, continue to keep interest rates near zero and continue to insure there is a market for US Treasuries. The Fed continues to replace the collapsing market for US debt with a shell game.

I have heard the most interesting news from one of my sources (I think it was Peter Schiff, but I forgot to write it down). When the Federal Reserve announced QE Unlimited and they will print $US40 Billion a month around 14 August, gold went up by $50 an ounce and silver went up by around $2 an ounce. This should CONTINUE to happen every month! Do you understand me, the $US is going to become more worthless every month and these metals will continue to appreciate! Obviously, it won't be linear - maybe one month Gold will go up by $10, and the next month by $90, but on overage gold will go up each month $40 billion is printed. Understand people, you must buy necessities like food NOW as inflation will takeoff from now on.

[ThePythonicCow]

I have heard the most interesting news from one of my sources (I think it was Peter Schiff, but I forgot to write it down). When the Federal Reserve announced QE Unlimited and they will print $US40 Billion a month around 14 August, gold went up by $50 an ounce and silver went up by around $2 an ounce. This should CONTINUE to happen every month! Do you understand me, the $US is going to become more worthless every month and these metals will continue to appreciate! Obviously, it won't be linear - maybe one month Gold will go up by $10, and the next month by $90, but on overage gold will go up each month $40 billion is printed. Understand people, you must buy necessities like food NOW as inflation will takeoff from now on.

Those focusing on the destruction of the dollar (or Euro, pound or yen) through more and more "printing" might be missing the more important element.

As has happened over and over and over again, the debt is piling up. Europe, Japan, the UK, and the US in particular but not exclusively are accumulating mind boggling amounts of debt and unfunded liabilities.

Those focusing on the destruction of the major currencies are often holding gold and silver, expecting that will preserve their wealth through the collapse of currencies.

But the Banksters will endeavor to use that debt ... that world class, worst in (publicly known) human history debt ... as debt has always been used, to foreclose on the debtor, to seize his property and his revenue streams, and to enslave him and his descendents unto the tenth generation.

Like many, I have a bit of gold and silver. I worry not so much that the US Dollar will collapse, because I have few of those and expect it to collapse or at least diminish substantially. I worry more that my bit of gold and silver will also be worth little to me. The Russians in Stalin's Gulags had little use for Rubles ... but they also had little use for gold or silver ... surviving the tyranny and the cold were their concerns.

Let me restate that:


If some major currencies collapse, and are replaced with some other currency, then likely gold and silver will be a useful means to preserve savings across that transition. But if major currencies collapse and are replaced with overbearing tyranny, then all forms of monetary savings will be worthless. Debt usually precedes further loss of control to the Banksters ... that is their way.

Let's do what we can to help them lose their way this time.

[Paranormal]

"They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity." Ezk 7:19 -> This verse has scared me for a long time, but I don't think Judgement day will happen soon as there's more predicted e.g. The Antichrist is in control first.