Are You 'Starseed' ? Ancient (Alien?) Soul with Temporary Amnesia? Remember Atlantis?

[ExomatrixTV]

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Published on Sep 18, 2012 by women4truth (http://www.youtube.com/user/women4truth)
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The term Star People or Starseed means that many on Earth are from other star systems, galaxies, even other universes.

A Starseed is a starborn mortal, a human being with Starbeing DNA. Starseeds have been coming since the beginning of earth's history, getting experience in being human and learning many lessons, reincarnating over and over again, until they were ready for an "awakening" in the Age of Aquarius and the Ascension which is happening NOW in 2012. No, the world is not going to end in a disaster, its the old paradigm ending, of duality, competition. But there will be a change, a new world... ONENESS.

All people have many past lives but everyone has to have an origin. The origin can be from the angelic realm, elemental (fairies), starborn, or earth born. The majority of people are, of course, earth born. But high number of people are what's called Starseeds, who are starborn humans.

This is going back 50,000 years and more. Most starseeds came to earth as energy and evolved into human beings on Atlantis. Supposedly the very first continent inhabited on earth. It is known by most Starseeds, Lightworkers, and Indigos that there is a Higher Power, a Creator, called God or Goddess by most of them, and that the Higher Power oversees not just earth, but all planets and the entire universe. This is about knowing not about religion. And that when you reincarnate, you can incarnate to not just earth, but other planets as well.

The majority of human beings have different reasons for coming to earth when compared to typical Star Seeds. Theirs is the path of spiritual learning and spiritual evolution through the Earth School of Learning. Many souls choose to incarnate on Earth many times (up to 200) in order to complete the spiritual learning that is available on here. Not all lifetimes within this cycle are experienced exclusively on Earth and there may be some life times elsewhere in the Universe where healing and restoration take place. These are not remembered by human beings consciously. However the density of Earth is such that repeated incarnations here often results in human beings losing their awareness of spiritual realities and their spiritual gifts. The physical plane of Earth dominates their consciousness to the point where they cannot even imagine extra terrestrial realties. For these Humans their focus is needed on everyday "earthly" matters and this is why they are not drawn to the Extra Terrestrial subjects. They need to learn how to master the lessons that the earth plane has to offer and this consumes their time and energy. And as such they are deeply consumed by the illusions of separation and lower consciousness that exist here. In this lost state the extraterrestrial origins have been forgotten and so there is little interest in this subject. In a way this state of forgetfulness serves them as they are allowed to focus intently on whatever the themes of their life are, without distraction from other realities and past extra terrestrial connections.

Do you FEEL you are a Star People?
http://sharellion.blogspot.no/p/star-people.html

The Starseed Quiz (Yes & No)
http://pleiadesx.com/starquiz.htm

Are You a Starseed?
http://the2012scenario.com/2011/06/are-you-a-starseed/

VIDEO
All About Starseeds - A FREE PAO Webinar
http://youtube.com/watch?v=awg74x7EA8E

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[we-R-one]

Here's a video I came across while exploring my star seed identity that you might enjoy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNqzPf3pBjc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNqzPf3pBjc

[WhiteFeather]

L iving
O ne
V ibrational
E nergy

F reedom
E nlightenment
A scension
R ethinking from Innerself

Yes The New Paradigm Is Beginning. And The Old Paradigm is coming to an end.

I enjoyed this inspiring video. Much Wanishi

Peace. Love. One.

W.f.

[dim]

Synthetic mind made constructs and overlays upon basic truths, that's how the matrix twists reality to suit slavery in a false light and love paradigm.
Those clips and links are complete disinfo, Beckow, Needle, Nesara etc are misinformers at best.

[ExomatrixTV]

dim (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?154-dim)

~the Love that you withhold for yourself is the pain that you carry!

[we-R-one]

Synthetic mind made constructs and overlays upon basic truths, that's how the matrix twists reality to suit slavery in a false light and love paradigm.
Those clips and links are complete disinfo, Beckow, Needle, Nesara etc are misinformers at best.

It would be easy to blow off the information in these videos if you weren't a star seed as you have no idea what it feels like to be one. Do you even know what the characteristics are? Well I do, because I am one and I assure you the characteristics of a star seed are anything but make believe. There have been several books written about star seeds and their existence, have you read any of them? Scott Madelker Ph D., has interviewed over a 1000 star seeds for his books. So if it's not real, why are there so many of us with such unusual characteristics. Trust me, if it wasn't happening to me I probably would have a hard time believing it and if you listen to the messages we convey, the true hard core star seeds, we all have a common theme.

[Star Tsar]

I don't know....
But have a burning desire inside to assertain that information!

:(

[white wizard]

I came around the time of Atlantis and have been here for a while. This will be most

old star seeds last incarnations here, because the shift will be complete after 2013.

There is plenty of evidence to prove the existence of star seeds and I am

one myself. I found out after doing research there are many different variations of

star seeds as well which is pretty interesting

[Peace of Mind]

I love the idea of advanced and special beings. However, it’s just too bad this hasn’t been confirmed yet in any way shape or form. All I’ve observed thus far is people with various levels of awareness about life in general. I would suspect any Star seed, Indigo, Chrystal, light worker, etc to be able to exemplify their claims simply by using their gifts. As of now everyone appears to be humans demonstrating human traits.

From the descriptions of such entities you would expect to recognize them right away because they would undoubtedly be doing/creating great feats that will be obvious to those holding knowledge of such beings. IMO, most people making claims to be one of these entities are just seeking attention. Why would recognition be important? The deeds perform by these individuals is what’s important and only then should they be acknowledge. Why do it before hand? When I start to see these deeds… that will be the time I’ll start believing.

I can’t validate who is what, nor do I think anyone here can either. What and who I am is irrelevant, I am what I am, and I will continue to do whatever is in my power to assist this planet and its inhabitants. Taking on a label is the least of my concerns. IMHO, Procrastinating, complaining, stagnation, disempowerment, and having no sense of urgency are not attributes of Star seeds, Indigo’s, Chrystal’s, light workers. If so…what’s the point of them coming here? Hopefully it’s not just to seek praise for being a waste of time and space. Actually, I would be embarrassed to be one if I were not able to use my powers for the greater good. In my mind, this is what separates the real from the phonies.

Peace

[deridan]

do say White Wizard,

Peace of Mind, it would be so in any aware structure, that all points of the barrel are inhabited, we would find offense at any movement.

...last reincarnation? what if children are had, would this bind one?

[dim]

hmmm yes, i didn't make myself clear, "twist on basic truths"
this info is designed to lead a starseed ashtray, the old recipe of truth and lies made to nullify
the power of the wanderer, driving us further away from the organic light of creation to
a false fluorescent light of fireworks and white unicorns technological 4d sterile paradigm.

Yet at the same time serves as a valuable distraction, an obstacle to overcome,
a lesson to learn, another beautiful prison to break free from.

i just hope it wont allure you as deep as i was allured,
the lies and the broken promises hopefully wont last for long
eventually our heart will find its way out of everything to the painless light of simple existence,
incorporating both light and darkness in to a new type of consciousness beyond 4d.

(if not anything else, Nesara is a known scam and it's right there on Becow's site)

[white wizard]

ihH0L_bffAA

There is hundreds of videos out there on past life research. If you are expecting the

same scientists bought and paid for by the global elite to come out and state it

openly then you need to seriously reconsider the way you look at things. The proof

is out there and unless you have done the research like the rest of us on PLR your

opinions that it is a fantasy is baseless.

[Fred Steeves]

hmmm yes, i didn't make myself clear, "twist on basic truths"
this info is designed to lead a starseed ashtray, the old recipe of truth and lies made to nullify
the power of the wanderer, driving us further away from the organic light of creation to
a false fluorescent light of fireworks and white unicorns technological 4d sterile paradigm.

Yet at the same time serves as a valuable distraction, an obstacle to overcome,
a lesson to learn, another beautiful prison to break free from.

i just hope it wont allure you as deep as i was allured,
the lies and the broken promises hopefully wont last for long
eventually our heart will find its way out of everything to the painless light of simple existence,
incorporating both light and darkness in to a new type of consciousness beyond 4d.

(if not anything else, Nesara is a known scam and it's right there on Becow's site)

My old buddy dim, sounding rather dour there. When one is ready for their long awaited true "awakening", no force under any sun will stand in their path. And of course conversely, until one is ready, no force under any sun can drag them to it.

But you knew that...

Good to see you around.

[Peace of Mind]

do say White Wizard,

Peace of Mind, it would be so in any aware structure, that all points of the barrel are inhabited, we would find offense at any movement.

...last reincarnation? what if children are had, would this bind one?

Please forgive my ignorance but can you explain/expand or put into different context the message you're conveying? thanks

Peace

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ihH0L_bffAA

There is hundreds of videos out there on past life research. If you are expecting the

same scientists bought and paid for by the global elite to come out and state it

openly then you need to seriously reconsider the way you look at things. The proof

is out there and unless you have done the research like the rest of us on PLR your

opinions that it is a fantasy is baseless.

Where’s the proof? All I see/hear/read is claims. Better yet, where’s your proof? And can you also prove the Global Elite isn’t peddling this? I use to follow/indulge in this sought of stuff a while ago but quickly realized that it’s all subjective inconclusive ideologies that ultimately really doesn’t matter at all in the grand scheme of things, think about that for a moment…. then tell me/us how it matters.

I don’t mean to sound inconsiderate but the elite are great at making empty claims, making people chase their tales, making people feel more special than others. To me…it’s just more divide and conquer tactics. To make such claims you should be able to provide your own proof….not videos and/or testimonies from others…who just so happen to be strangers in hiding. There is a lot of temptation in the world but it’s our responsibility to deal with the things that actually beneficial. If the benefits cannot be realized you are most likely wasting your time. Unfortunately, we have been conditioned very well to do just that.

Peace

[white wizard]

My proof is right here. I am a star seed. I think you just have your little

preconceived ideas on how things work. Honestly why are you even on this site

have you ever heard of past life regression? I guess all those thousands of people

who have had past life experiences were all lying. I also assume there is no life out

there in the universe, since there is no proof. If we want to go down that road were

is the proof of this global elite bent on world domination. Is there any proof god

even exists. If you wanna go by proof then the only thing we can prove is were

the only thing out there in the cosmos everything happens by coincidence and the

only purpose in life is to achieve as much material possessions as possible and then

rot in the ground. There is your proof lol and for the rest of us who believe there

something bigger in life I suggest getting a past life regression done yourself if you

need proof. All the proof you need is available within you just need to learn

how to look for it :ranger:

[we-R-one]

hmmm yes, i didn't make myself clear, "twist on basic truths"
this info is designed to lead a starseed ashtray, the old recipe of truth and lies made to nullify
the power of the wanderer, driving us further away from the organic light of creation to
a false fluorescent light of fireworks and white unicorns technological 4d sterile paradigm.

Yet at the same time serves as a valuable distraction, an obstacle to overcome,
a lesson to learn, another beautiful prison to break free from.

i just hope it wont allure you as deep as i was allured,
the lies and the broken promises hopefully wont last for long
eventually our heart will find its way out of everything to the painless light of simple existence,
incorporating both light and darkness in to a new type of consciousness beyond 4d.

(if not anything else, Nesara is a known scam and it's right there on Becow's site)

Hi Dim,

Not sure what Nesara has to do with star seeds? Don't know who Becow is.....again, please elaborate what they have to do with star seeds so I can understand your comment better, thanks.

I have no idea what you are talking about in your post as you are not making yourself clear enough for the reader to understand, especially for those of us who do not know you. What I can tell you, is all the descriptions of star seeds fit me to a tee. My discovery happened in 2010....I did not read about star seeds and then become one, it was nothing like that. By chance, I came across star seed information and I realized all the characteristic they were listing were describing me. I was all ready living what I was reading, not the other way around.

[we-R-one]

Where’s the proof? All I see/hear/read is claims. Better yet, where’s your proof? And can you also prove the Global Elite isn’t peddling this? I use to follow/indulge in this sought of stuff a while ago but quickly realized that it’s all subjective inconclusive ideologies that ultimately really doesn’t matter at all in the grand scheme of things, think about that for a moment…. then tell me/us how it matters.

I don’t mean to sound inconsiderate but the elite are great at making empty claims, making people chase their tales, making people feel more special than others. To me…it’s just more divide and conquer tactics. To make such claims you should be able to provide your own proof….not videos and/or testimonies from others…who just so happen to be strangers in hiding. There is a lot of temptation in the world but it’s our responsibility to deal with the things that actually beneficial. If the benefits cannot be realized you are most likely wasting your time. Unfortunately, we have been conditioned very well to do just that. Peace

The proof is within. Like I posted earlier, my identity came to the forefront in 2010. Star seeds have specific characteristics such as metaphysical abilities. Other characteristics include lower than normal body temperature, a sense of not belonging here and a feeling that they are here for a specific mission to help humanity in some way or another. To understand, you have to study the topic in order to see the difference between a star seed soul and a younger soul.

As a young child and into my adulthood I was able to demonstrate skills involving telepathy, clairvoyance, mind control, time dilation, aura reading, and cross species communication. Star seeds have a knack for understanding energy and how to utilize it. Additionally we have a tendency to look younger than our real age. Some star seeds have a look of "knowing" in their eyes at a very young age. Strangely enough, I had a very astute uncle whom picked up on this when I was in my early teens.....I remember him taking my chin in his hand and making a comment while looking into my eyes that I had a "gaze of knowing coming from within". I did not understand what he meant until 2010, the memories of that comment surfaced as I was reading/discovering the characteristics of star seeds.

I cannot "perform" my special abilities on command, they just happen as if I've done it a 100 times or more. My most recent experience involved picking up on a conversation between a couple that was in a car behind me. I was telepathically intercepting their conversation- it just happened. They were discussing going to the movies, or something to that effect. They drove behind me for about 3 miles while this occurred. There was nothing being done on their part that would have alerted me to the fact that they were going to the movies. The only reason I knew I was right, was that I followed this couple into the parking lot of the movies and saw them get out and walk to the theater. I had to make a u-turn in the same parking lot as I was trying to find a business and had apparently passed it. There were plenty of other business' that they could have pulled on to along this busy road, but they didn't, and that's when I knew the information I had intercepted was dead on.

I will post more later, but I hope that helps. Being able to identify oneself in this category was not about being better than others. Personally I don't like labels, but in this case I understand the need for a classification. I spent my whole life not understanding why I could do some of things I could do, I was persecuted by my family for going against the grain and not conforming(black sheep)- another common characteristic of star seeds; additionally I had an uneasy feeling from very early on that I was not with my true family. The summer of 2010, the heart of my awakening, offered much relief when I was able to make the connection to my star seed identity as it validated why I was having these unusual experiences that could not be explained. As you dig more and begin to understand, you will see that this is all by design and it makes perfect sense as you look within for the answers.

[Wind]

Another starseed here and I remember Atlantis. :)

[Peace of Mind]

My proof is right here. I am a star seed. I think you just have your little

preconceived ideas on how things work. Honestly why are you even on this site

have you ever heard of past life regression? I guess all those thousands of people

who have had past life experiences were all lying. I also assume there is no life out

there in the universe, since there is no proof. If we want to go down that road were

is the proof of this global elite bent on world domination. Is there any proof god

even exists. If you wanna go by proof then the only thing we can prove is were

the only thing out there in the cosmos everything happens by coincidence and the

only purpose in life is to achieve as much material possessions as possible and then

rot in the ground. There is your proof lol and for the rest of us who believe there

something bigger in life I suggest getting a past life regression done yourself if you

need proof. All the proof you need is available within you just need to learn

how to look for it :ranger:
I’ve researched this subject move than I care to admit. In fact, I was told on many occasions to look into it because it was/is believed that I am possibly one of these entities. In the beginning of my research (that took place many years ago) I found the material to be very fascinating and quite inspirational. As time passed I've noticed that we all can be lumped in these claims by just being more aware in life. I too can read minds just by glancing into people’s eyes, I’ve had experiences where I can move tiny inanimate objects by using absolute focus and intent… but I always end up feeling drained in the end (perhaps I’m doing something wrong). I remember waking up one night fallen from the ceiling bouncing off my bed and hitting my face on a radiator. I still don’t know what that was about, the only thing that comes to mind is “levitation”. I also can see events unfold before they happen and my experiences in a Déjà vu can be mind boggling. These are just a few things/gifts I’m experiencing. So do I feel special or think I’m different? Not really. I think we all have these and/or certain powers/gifts but just forgot them and are too distracted with disempowerment to realize them. Imo, this subject reminds me of reading the Horoscope sections of the daily paper; you can read all twelve signs and see that all the readings can be fitting to your life.

We all know what the elites are doing, that proof is in the way society is managed. We don’t know what’s in the cosmos because none of us has ever flew in a space ship, we just take the word of NASA and ancient scripture to be accurate without having our own experiences of the cosmos to back it up. Claiming to be from the stars without authenticating that claim is not good enough for me. Why? Well, simply because we are constantly lied to by our governments, schools (controlled learning institutions), and his-story books that clearly show signs of tampering. I do believe there is a supreme being/creator but that we are also a part of that supreme being/creator. As far as PLR, I believe I was here (and probably elsewhere) fighting in wars, wars for sovereignty. Perhaps that’s the reason for my fighting spirit. I just know sitting around while the peace in the world crumbles and fade away isn’t the wisest approach to our collective problems. Life is about the experience; very little experience can be obtained through stagnation. Heaven is success through adversity while Hell is the failures of your greatest ambitions. All the proof you will ever need is always within, what we see in life is only the afterthought, the results of what came from within.

I just don’t agree or particularly like how this subject is promoted in the alternative media. It’s a bit misleading and can confuse and dispirit many people who hasn’t realized (yet) they are everything they mind believes them to be. We all have bodies that bleeds/ sweat/ feels pain/ pleasure and dies, and everybody has to deal with the issues we have in this world. I'm just not one of those people pretending they don't exist, that's almost as worse as the proprietors of issues. I don’t really believe there are special beings from (elsewhere) coming here to assist humanity, if so…where are they and how are they helping? I’ve heard stories like raising the planets frequency and such… but how are they doing this? I just see a lot of idle souls? This is not to say I don't totally believe, but the practice of relaying such inform is simular to the way TPTB relay their info. All they want to do is split up humanity in everyway they can, I'm totally the opposite.

Peace

[Peace of Mind]

Where’s the proof? All I see/hear/read is claims. Better yet, where’s your proof? And can you also prove the Global Elite isn’t peddling this? I use to follow/indulge in this sought of stuff a while ago but quickly realized that it’s all subjective inconclusive ideologies that ultimately really doesn’t matter at all in the grand scheme of things, think about that for a moment…. then tell me/us how it matters.

I don’t mean to sound inconsiderate but the elite are great at making empty claims, making people chase their tales, making people feel more special than others. To me…it’s just more divide and conquer tactics. To make such claims you should be able to provide your own proof….not videos and/or testimonies from others…who just so happen to be strangers in hiding. There is a lot of temptation in the world but it’s our responsibility to deal with the things that actually beneficial. If the benefits cannot be realized you are most likely wasting your time. Unfortunately, we have been conditioned very well to do just that. Peace

The proof is within. Like I posted earlier, my identity came to the forefront in 2010. Star seeds have specific characteristics such as metaphysical abilities. Other characteristics include lower than normal body temperature, a sense of not belonging here and a feeling that they are here for a specific mission to help humanity in some way or another. To understand, you have to study the topic in order to see the difference between a star seed soul and a younger soul.

As a young child and into my adulthood I was able to demonstrate skills involving telepathy, clairvoyance, mind control, time dilation, aura reading, and cross species communication. Star seeds have a knack for understanding energy and how to utilize it. Additionally we have a tendency to look younger than our real age. Some star seeds have a look of "knowing" in their eyes at a very young age. Strangely enough, I had a very astute uncle whom picked up on this when I was in my early teens.....I remember him taking my chin in his hand and making a comment while looking into my eyes that I had a "gaze of knowing coming from within". I did not understand what he meant until 2010, the memories of that comment surfaced as I was reading/discovering the characteristics of star seeds.

I cannot "perform" my special abilities on command, they just happen as if I've done it a 100 times or more. My most recent experience involved picking up on a conversation between a couple that was in a car behind me. I was telepathically intercepting their conversation- it just happened. They were discussing going to the movies, or something to that effect. They drove behind me for about 3 miles while this occurred. There was nothing being done on their part that would have alerted me to the fact that they were going to the movies. The only reason I knew I was right, was that I followed this couple into the parking lot of the movies and saw them get out and walk to the theater. I had to make a u-turn in the same parking lot as I was trying to find a business and had apparently passed it. There were plenty of other business' that they could have pulled on to along this busy road, but they didn't, and that's when I knew the information I had intercepted was dead on.

I will post more later, but I hope that helps. Being able to identify oneself in this category was not about being better than others. Personally I don't like labels, but in this case I understand the need for a classification. I spent my whole life not understanding why I could do some of things I could do, I was persecuted by my family for going against the grain and not conforming(black sheep)- another common characteristic of star seeds; additionally I had an uneasy feeling from very early on that I was not with my true family. The summer of 2010, the heart of my awakening, offered much relief when I was able to make the connection to my star seed identity as it validated why I was having these unusual experiences that could not be explained. As you dig more and begin to understand, you will see that this is all by design and it makes perfect sense as you look within for the answers.

Thank you for this post, I can most certainly relate in some ways due to my own experiences, but I like to keep them to myself until I can properly assess what’s really going on. Anytime you put yourself out in public with this kind of material you have to have a clear understanding of what you speak about, and process something of substance to back up your claims. If you don’t… then you will more than likely attract ridicule due to others not having those same experiences as you. I always caution people when doing this, be creative when presenting your beliefs if you can’t readily provide proof. If I can’t authenticate, I don’t bother, why should I unless I was seeking attention? Obviously there is more to lose than to gain when doing it in this fashion. In the end all I’ll be doing is making it that much harder for those that can actually present the facts.

Peace

[deridan]

i have the very strong feeling my dad was a starseed. hee created such a strong feeling of stability and aura, that when it was gone, our tender and defended souls REELED in this world....mcuh prayers of anger flowed in my soul, the directions on which i am hopefully treading the path to becoming.

ww, don't be offended at these,
these are merely the early commentaries, which always arrive some time on the bus,
they are merely warning of the things which happen when a full trend is made,

seee perhaps we have to be as the initiated,...spiritually weak souls who rely on this , well it blows [blows dust [into ones eyes, ..being an outsider to a click, and all star seeds especially the one so virulent was there perhaps once too]],
be as the initiated in that access to strong things are only given to the strong,...these are my thoughts, i am not illuminati,i laugh at childlingsteps

[we-R-one]

Thank you for this post, I can most certainly relate in some ways due to my own experiences, but I like to keep them to myself until I can properly assess what’s really going on. Anytime you put yourself out in public with this kind of material you have to have a clear understanding of what you speak about, and process something of substance to back up your claims. If you don’t… then you will more than likely attract ridicule due to others not having those same experiences as you. I always caution people when doing this, be creative when presenting your beliefs if you can’t readily provide proof. If I can’t authenticate, I don’t bother, why should I unless I was seeking attention? Obviously there is more to lose than to gain when doing it in this fashion. In the end all I’ll be doing is making it that much harder for those that can actually present the facts.

Peace

Here's the deal....the days of being politically correct are over for me...I'm no longer accessing that time-line. We need to be as open as possible about discussing our experiences. If fellow star seeds don't start talking, how are we ever going to know? How can we compare notes if we don't talk? Cause we all know we're not going to get the truth from the PTB, so what are we waiting for?

I cannot help if someone wants to think that by identifying one-self as a star seed, in their mind, they perceive that we think we're better than anyone else or they think we're in need of some attention. That says to me, the person who thinks that might have some insecurity issues. I do feel that star seeds are more advanced in some ways compared to others. I do not think it makes us better.....the reason we are more advanced is because we're older souls who have experience. You cannot have all souls at the same level, it wouldn't work in the environment of duality. The only way the game works is if you have people at varying levels. It's not about being superior to others because when you truly understand the big picture, we are all one in the same anyways, a worthy point to mention, but that's another whole story.

In my mind the varying levels of souls is possibly part of the real evolution process. All of us have the potential to utilize what currently is recognized as metaphysical abilities, but I believe, based on what I have observed and read, that the only reason star seeds seem to have stronger skill sets is because they are more advanced and further along in the evolution process. We are here to carve the way for those who do not "believe".

Your comments above fit the parameters of someone who thinks with a 3D mind; that being, if you can't see it, touch it, feel it, taste it, it doesn't exist. If we are to explore other realities we have to get away from this thought process as it does not apply outside the matrix, otherwise you are supporting the belief system of the very matrix you want to remove yourself from. The perfect example of something that exists, but you can't necessarily see, is energy; but you believe in it and you know it's real. Metaphysical abilities are dealing with that energy, and just because you can't see them, doesn't mean their existence isn't real. You see what I mean? When I have a telepathic experience I am utilizing something that cannot be seen and yet the experience is very real to me because I can "feel" the results. I don't have to necessarily see anything to know it's true. Now a younger soul which is less advanced would not understand that.

I have no way to prove what I can do, because most of the results happen internally. To ignore my experiences and those of others based on the fact that they don't fit into the belief system of a 3D world would be a mistake. So let me ask you....who are we waiting for to authenticate what many of us all ready know is real? Are we waiting for the thought police to tell us what is real and what is not? And who is the "chosen one" which will present the facts? If you want out of 3D this is what you have to be thinking. There is nothing to loose and everything to gain.

I'm not making fun of you, but your comments above sound like a typical stereotype response that people are use to saying and believing. This is what we need to get away from.....Your decision above states that you are still in fear mode, and you are not comfortable stepping outside of the parameters of "preconceived misconceptions", based on what the collective masses would approve of according to the laws of a 3D society. If we keep with this mind-set we will never advance. Just to be clear, there is no tone in my post or intentions of superiority. My goal is to share what I have learned with others so that we may all grow and understand together by learning from each others experiences and the Avalon forum is the appropriate place this very topic should be discussed without ridicule and judgment.

[deridan]

i was once at a stage the mediator of myself. did not chuck away any of my thoughts. saw that output behaviours were based on logic,..so for any aberances in myself i would always chase these down,..ask myself my beliefs and sort myself out.{some people would say there is a negative self and positive self, to me i was all the same and regarded with equal respect all my thoughts} (as much of my internal process in that i saw in mayan dreamspell would be mine... i.e. 'regulate universal fire of integrity'). anycase, that phase of my life ended. after some very major crisis's in my life, and gaining the ability to silence my thoughts, and become centred in other, should we say..chakra movements,
i realized that thoughts i had were and could come from others in my near environment. take a funny one,..coming out of a shop yesterday having bought take-aways, walking to my car, i hear thoughts of evaluation and judgement of character,..walk to my car, and so waar ok, look back and i see the other battle horse against me at work passing by.....gee, that person really hates me....but i am offended at the thought, that the specialists of this world really work for the stupid. life is easier for you if u don't go against the grain

[Peace of Mind]

hmm... thanks for taking the time to write this, we-r-one.

"Here's the deal....the days of being politically correct are over for me...I'm no longer accessing that time-line. We need to be as open as possible about discussing our experiences. If fellow star seeds don't start talking, how are we ever going to know? How can we compare notes if we don't talk? Cause we all know we're not going to get the truth from the PTB, so what are we waiting for?"

I cannot help if someone wants to think that by identifying one-self as a star seed, in their mind, they perceive that we think we're better than anyone else or they think we're in need of some attention. That says to me, the person who thinks that might have some insecurity issues. I do feel that star seeds are more advanced in some ways compared to others. I do not think it makes us better.....the reason we are more advanced is because we're older souls who have experience. You cannot have all souls at the same level, it wouldn't work in the environment of duality. The only way the game works is if you have people at varying levels. It's not about being superior to others because when you truly understand the big picture, we are all one in the same anyways, a worthy point to mention, but that's another whole story.

Its not about insecurity issues, is about making claims and not displaying the attributes of those claims nor presenting anything of substance to link to the claims. Anybody can claim to be anything but we/society are accustomed to seeing such claims in action. Many people are starting to get really tired of the smoke screens and how it always seems to masks and create inactivity. We are getting tired of fear mongers, tired of hype that never meets it's expectations, tired of failed predictions, tired of seeing acts of division in motion. We want walkers not talkers. I suspect such entities have a master plan to put into effect, no?

In my mind the varying levels of souls is possibly part of the real evolution process. All of us have the potential to utilize what currently is recognized as metaphysical abilities, but I believe, based on what I have observed and read, that the only reason star seeds seem to have stronger skill sets is because they are more advanced and further along in the evolution process. We are here to carve the way for those who do not "believe".

How do you make believers out of people who are fixed in 3D?

Your comments above fit the parameters of someone who thinks with a 3D mind; that being, if you can't see it, touch it, feel it, taste it, it doesn't exist. If we are to explore other realities we have to get away from this thought process as it does not apply outside the matrix, otherwise you are supporting the belief system of the very matrix you want to remove yourself from. The perfect example of something that exists, but you can't necessarily see, is energy; but you believe in it and you know it's real. Metaphysical abilities are dealing with that energy, and just because you can't see them, doesn't mean their existence isn't real. You see what I mean? When I have a telepathic experience I am utilizing something that cannot be seen and yet the experience is very real to me because I can "feel" the results. I don't have to necessarily see anything to know it's true. Now a younger soul which is less advanced would not understand that.

Are you speaking from a 4D/5D perspective? I didn’t realize someone could do this, especially when they still reside in 3D. What’s it like in the realm you’re speaking from? I’m curious because I really don’t follow the unconfirmed teachings of others. Instead, I rather go through life dealing with reality and expand my awareness by handling actual issues. How are you able to leave 3D, and at the same time feel comfortable ignoring the issues that exist in 3D?

I have no way to prove what I can do, because most of the results happen internally. To ignore my experiences and those of others based on the fact that they don't fit into the belief system of a 3D world would be a mistake. So let me ask you....who are we waiting for to authenticate what many of us all ready know is real? Are we waiting for the thought police to tell us what is real and what is not? And who is the "chosen one" which will present the facts? If you want out of 3D this is what you have to be thinking. There is nothing to loose and everything to gain.
Yes, who are we waiting for?

Since I’ve been on this site people have come and gone making similar claims but never stated any plans/measures/or ideas that will fix our dire situation. They just come in saying they are this and that, waste great time by using the place as a hangout then disappear once their theories/ideas are met with rationality. The world is crumbling everyday, people are suffering everyday and the more people ignore this the more I feel there's some hidden devious force controlling those that can actually help by keeping them preoccupied with indefinable material. Imo, I think a few agents come in to make these claims just to stir up the nest, disempowering some people by stating empty claims (knowingly or not). In actuality, I really don’t mind, I just want to see/know when these beings are going to roll up their sleeves and start doing what they say they can do. As I stated earlier, I don’t really see any evidence of such beings, I just see more humans becoming aware of self and their suppressed abilities, and there is absolutely no evidence to suggest otherwise. Perhaps the awakening to self makes some people feel that way.

I'm not making fun of you, but your comments above sound like a typical stereotype response that people are use to saying and believing. This is what we need to get away from.....Your decision above states that you are still in fear mode, and you are not comfortable stepping outside of the parameters of "preconceived misconceptions", based on what the collective masses would approve of according to the laws of a 3D society. If we keep with this mind-set we will never advance. Just to be clear, there is no tone in my post or intentions of superiority. My goal is to share what I have learned with others so that we may all grow and understand together by learning from each others experiences and the Avalon forum is the appropriate place this very topic should be discussed without ridicule and judgment.

I’m not sure what your definition of fear is, but here are some of mines. Fear is when you are too afraid to stand up to the small handful of oppressors in this world. Fear is when you are afraid to look at the world in its current state and pretend it’s suppose to be that way. Fear is hesitating to walk up to the police/military and tell them who their real enemies are. Fear is when you ignore reality and force yourself to believe in another one that you nor anyone else can prove exist. Fear is knowing/pretending life is an illusion but still hesitate to partake and change the illusion. Fear is looking for excuses before remedies. Fear is nothing but dealing with the unknown, but when you face fear it vanishes.

To be clear on my stance on this...
I protest/attend demonstrations/help organize think tanks and local neighborhood summits/ feed the needy/ and talk to thugs, misfits, gangsters, drug dealers, and prostitutes about responsibility, real empowerment and our future….amongst other things. It's hard doing this alone and/or with few people. You'll be surprise how many "unaware" people put their lives on the line everyday for the well being of all of us (including the self proclaim starseeds). It'll be cool to see a few of these advance beings out there in the fray with us. It's the least they can do, imo.

This topic has been discussed here (and elsewhere) for years and the discussion has never change or hardly advanced past the part of claiming to be one of these entities. Just to gain a bit more clarity I have a few questions that may help in broadening your points of view? 1. In a year from now what do you think the world/Earth will look like? 2. What are your plans to assist in the needed changes in this world? 3. How do you (or other star seeds) plan to raise the vibrations/ global consciousness?

I have other questions and more insight I would like to add but for now… this will suffice.

Peace

[Jake]

Where’s the proof? All I see/hear/read is claims. Better yet, where’s your proof?

tsk, tsk, tsk... Where is YOUR proof that these are just claims??? I have memories of being on a craft. And they are not of this lifetime.

It is not the responsibility of the folks here to PROVE anything to you, my friend.


If I can’t authenticate, I don’t bother, why should I unless I was seeking attention?

Have you ever loved someone? Can you PROVE IT??? Strange and silly argument, no? These are peoples experiences that we are talking about here. Experiences and memories,,, kinda silly to ask one to prove it, meethinks.

I can hold your hand and walk through it with you, but I cannot prove it... And I do not think that you are seeking attention.

I highly doubt that ANY of us are from here. We are not human bodies,,, we HAVE human bodies, but our soul/essence is NOT from around here.
You will have your proof, if you truly want it... I know that from experience,,,

Cheers, Jake.

[Peace of Mind]

My proof is presented when the proof in the claims are not presented. When a person claims to be of a higher power/knowledge/focus/position/etc…but display doing less than the ones they claim to be more advance than…. that is more than subtle proof for me.

If I had a nickel for every time I saw someone state “ I don’t have to prove anything” there would be no more poverty in the world. That line always strikes me as a cop out. It’s always used when feeling defensive and when the person can’t showcase their claim.

You can prove you love someone by the deeds you perform…it’s not hard to display love at all. In fact I’m doing it right now. As I’m spending time making attempts to get everyone to see from various perspectives that will ultimately get us all on the same page, and hopefully create some urgency.

I believe we are here for the experience, here to be tested in every way, to learn and grow through adversity. To tackle our problems and clean up the mess we created over lifetimes. We are only here for a minute, so why will something as phenomenal as the human come and go just to archive nothing other than being a good slave and a contributor to killing the planet?

Peace

[Jake]

My proof is presented when the proof in the claims are not presented. When a person claims to be of a higher power/knowledge/focus/position/etc…but display doing less than the ones they claim to be more advance than…. that is more than subtle proof for me.

If I had a nickel for every time I saw someone state “ I don’t have to prove anything” there would be no more poverty in the world. That line always strikes me as a cop out. It’s always used when feeling defensive and when the person can’t showcase their claim.

You can prove you love someone by the deeds you perform…it’s not hard to display love at all. In fact I’m doing it right now. As I’m spending time making attempts to get everyone to see from various perspectives that will ultimately get us all on the same page, and hopefully create some urgency.

I believe we are here for the experience, here to be tested in every way, to learn and grow through adversity. To tackle our problems and clean up the mess we created over lifetimes. We are only here for a minute, so why will something as phenomenal as the human come and go just to archive nothing other than being a good slave and a contributor to killing the planet?

Peace

Awesome, we are on the same page. I love your words. Thank you. I do not understand how one loving person could demand proof from another, when talking about subjective experience. How can you justify demanding proof, and then tell me that you can 'demonstrate' you proof,,, yet others cannot!!?? I am not trying to call you out, personally. Please understand this. "Prove it!" Might work for you. Doesn't work for me. I have had too many fully conscious and waking 'spiritual' experiences to ever have the need to prove it. If you have not, then you have some pretty cool experiences ahead of you.

You can demand proof in a court of law, or when doing mathematical eqations,,, But not with subjective human experience. It does not work like that.
I can demonstrate it in a million ways... that is not the PROOF that you are looking for, is it?

When talking about past lives and memories of past lives,,, of course these are all subjective experiences, Please, let's keep the door open for folks who may just have an experience or two to share. The reality of understanding our past life essence is not going to go away. There is a story unfolding.

Love to all,,, Jake.

[Tarka the Duck]

It is not the responsibility of the folks here to PROVE anything to you, my friend

For me, it's quite the opposite: if there was truly no responsibility, anyone could say anything...:rolleyes: The burden of proof is on the one making the claims - how could it be any other way? If I write that I have green hamster sitting on my head at this very moment and you question me about that, it's up to me to offer evidence of my claim.

So you have no regard for Russell's teapot?

Russell's teapot, sometimes called the celestial teapot or cosmic teapot, is an analogy first coined by the philosopher Bertrand Russell (1872–1970) to illustrate that the philosophic burden of proof lies upon a person making scientifically unfalsifiable claims rather than shifting the burden of proof to others, specifically in the case of religion. Russell wrote that if he claims that a teapot orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars, it is nonsensical for him to expect others to believe him on the grounds that they cannot prove him wrong. Russell's teapot is still referred to in discussions concerning the existence of God.

source: Wikipedia

As Carl Sagan said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

[Jake]

It is not the responsibility of the folks here to PROVE anything to you, my friend

For me, it's quite the opposite: if there was truly no responsibility, anyone could say anything...:rolleyes: The burden of proof is on the one making the claims - how could it be any other way? If I write that I have green hamster sitting on my head at this very moment and you question me about that, it's up to me to offer evidence of my claim.

So you have no regard for Russell's teapot?

Russell's teapot, sometimes called the celestial teapot or cosmic teapot, is an analogy first coined by the philosopher Bertrand Russell (1872–1970) to illustrate that the philosophic burden of proof lies upon a person making scientifically unfalsifiable claims rather than shifting the burden of proof to others, specifically in the case of religion. Russell wrote that if he claims that a teapot orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars, it is nonsensical for him to expect others to believe him on the grounds that they cannot prove him wrong. Russell's teapot is still referred to in discussions concerning the existence of God.

source: Wikipedia

As Carl Sagan said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

For Pete's sake... I will say this and then be done with it.. I will take no further part in side-tracking this thread.

I have spent more time trying to prove the validity of my own personal experience than most!!!
Now I stand back and ask myself...

Who am I proving it to?? YOU??? Why do YOU not have the burden to prove it to YOURSELF?? Why does that fall into my hands??
Goodness gracious!! I have spent most of my life hoping to prove it to MYSELF. I have spent many years in turmoil over the truths that I have embraced. I have shed layers and I have learned a lot. I have had to do a lot of personal searching and personal discovery is the reward. Now, you want me to PROVE IT??? Look, if you don't get it,, then please do not sit in judgement. I will say it again...

"It is not my responsibility to prove anything to you!" It is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF.


I have green hamster sitting on my head at this very moment and you question me about that, it's up to me to offer evidence of my claim.


If you have a green hamster on your head,,, it is none of my business. :) Why would I demand proof of that??

That is it... My apologies to the OP ot this thread. Please,,, back on topic...

[4evrneo]

Although I dont have much information on "Starseeds", I have read about them quite a bit and actually wonder if my daughter is one. She exibits most of the characteristics with the exception that she doesnt use her gifts or has forgotten she has them. Me being intuitive, I sense she has many abilities but she is in a very painful waking coma so to speak. I dont know what to make of all this and dont know how to wake my daughter up. I have tried on a daily basis for the last year and a half to get her out of this destructive "funk" she is in but with no sucess. I believe her not feeling like she belongs here has unfortunately put her into a depression that she cant seem to pull herself out of.
I wish there was a way to know for sure, and to help her becuase I know she is unhappy and she gets this unhappiness from somewhere else. I am always a happy positive person and she just keeps getting deeper into her aloneness and sadness. I have had some education in psycology so I know what to identify and what things need to be done to help her but none of these things are helping in the slightest.
One day I asked her to read the list of characteristics of a starseed and she just started crying. Occasionally she wants to talk about it but she doesnt want to read about it on her own or search for her own answers.
She is 25 by the way and if anyone has any insight I would appreciate it. Here is a picture of Brittany.


Blessings,
Annette

[we-R-one]

To be clear on my stance on this...
I protest/attend demonstrations/help organize think tanks and local neighborhood summits/ feed the needy/ and talk to thugs, misfits, gangsters, drug dealers, and prostitutes about responsibility, real empowerment and our future….amongst other things. It's hard doing this alone and/or with few people. You'll be surprise how many "unaware" people put their lives on the line everyday for the well being of all of us (including the self proclaim starseeds). It'll be cool to see a few of these advance beings out there in the fray with us. It's the least they can do, imo.

This topic has been discussed here (and elsewhere) for years and the discussion has never change or hardly advanced past the part of claiming to be one of these entities. Just to gain a bit more clarity I have a few questions that may help in broadening your points of view? 1. In a year from now what do you think the world/Earth will look like? 2. What are your plans to assist in the needed changes in this world? 3. How do you (or other star seeds) plan to raise the vibrations/ global consciousness?

I have other questions and more insight I would like to add but for now… this will suffice.

Peace

Peace of Mind,

I have a very good response for you, but it will take time to type it out and I just can't get to it right now, but will soon. I actually had it done yesterday, when my computer locked on me and I lost the whole thing...grrrrr....I have posted the "solution" several times on this forum with the science backing what I say and it hardly gets noticed. The impression I get from most people is they don't want the solution and for various reasons, but the one's listed below are what stand out in my mind the most.
1. They don't want to do the work
2. They're waiting for someone else to do it for them- i.e. Drake
3. If the results aren't fast enough there must be something wrong
4. Whoever is putting out the concept is never "messiah" enough or whatever else anyone can find wrong with the person instead of listening to the messge
5. People's focus seems to be concentrated on dark issues and anything that promotes fear

I too have gotten involved within my community so if you want to list credentials I can share that I'm the founder of two of the largest patriot groups in my state. I've also participated in supporting the "pro se" movement where these guys are fighting back in the court systems by representing themselves. So I assure you I am walking the walk and not just talking the talk. My next move will be assisting in cleaning up the mortgage mess in which the banksters have clouded just about every property title they could get their hands on in our country. So I hear your comments that no one seems to want to make the effort....trust me, I know too well and its probably my biggest complaint. I'm tired of the complacency myself.

Your responses to me show that you base your knowledge on a 3rd dimensional belief system and if you want to get out of 3D, you have to shift your set of beliefs. The difference between 3D and 5D is a belief system. I'll give you some definitions so you can understand why I say what I say. Lots of times it's difficult to interpret what someone is trying to convey because our words have so many different meanings.

Thanks for your detailed message, I will do my best to answer as much as I can. Please know that we may find differences in what we both may deem to be "proof". When you learn to look within, the proof doesn't always have to show itself in a tangible form. For those of us who understand this, based on our own experiences, we cannot always provide you with the kind of proof in the form that you think is substantial. So for instance, if I'm telling you about a dream I had, how am I to prove what happened in that dream? I have nothing physical to give you, only my memory as the recollection of what the dream was about, see what I mean? It's the same with the energy concept, you can't see it, but you know it exists. So keep in mind, just because you can't see something doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't exist.

[4evrneo]

So keep in mind, just because you can't see something doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't exist.

Very well said. That is exactly how I feel about many things happening to alot of awake people right now. The people that know me think its strange that I can talk endlessly about astral projection but if they want proof, I have nothing to give. I tell them the same thing " Prove to ME its not true".

Blessings,
Annette

[Peace of Mind]

My proof is presented when the proof in the claims are not presented. When a person claims to be of a higher power/knowledge/focus/position/etc…but display doing less than the ones they claim to be more advance than…. that is more than subtle proof for me.

If I had a nickel for every time I saw someone state “ I don’t have to prove anything” there would be no more poverty in the world. That line always strikes me as a cop out. It’s always used when feeling defensive and when the person can’t showcase their claim.

You can prove you love someone by the deeds you perform…it’s not hard to display love at all. In fact I’m doing it right now. As I’m spending time making attempts to get everyone to see from various perspectives that will ultimately get us all on the same page, and hopefully create some urgency.

I believe we are here for the experience, here to be tested in every way, to learn and grow through adversity. To tackle our problems and clean up the mess we created over lifetimes. We are only here for a minute, so why will something as phenomenal as the human come and go just to archive nothing other than being a good slave and a contributor to killing the planet?

Peace

Awesome, we are on the same page. I love your words. Thank you. I do not understand how one loving person could demand proof from another, when talking about subjective experience. How can you justify demanding proof, and then tell me that you can 'demonstrate' you proof,,, yet others cannot!!?? I am not trying to call you out, personally. Please understand this. "Prove it!" Might work for you. Doesn't work for me. I have had too many fully conscious and waking 'spiritual' experiences to ever have the need to prove it. If you have not, then you have some pretty cool experiences ahead of you.

You can demand proof in a court of law, or when doing mathematical eqations,,, But not with subjective human experience. It does not work like that.
I can demonstrate it in a million ways... that is not the PROOF that you are looking for, is it?

When talking about past lives and memories of past lives,,, of course these are all subjective experiences, Please, let's keep the door open for folks who may just have an experience or two to share. The reality of understanding our past life essence is not going to go away. There is a story unfolding.

Love to all,,, Jake.


I think we can agree that one’s belief of being a “special being” is subjective. I don’t think realizing your dormant abilities of being human classifieds a person to being from somewhere else in the cosmos. Most, if not all of our knowledge about the cosmos is still laced with theories. So how can people without the experience of leaving the Earth’s atmosphere know exactly what’s out there. I do a lot of research as far as the cosmos are concern and I can poke many holes in what NASA and our history books teach us. In fact, much of the teachings are on the verge of being change which suggest to me the cosmos is nothing like we think it is. Which sought of explains why I hold doubt whenever someone makes claims about Stars, etc...

At least one clear demonstration of being a starseed would be enough, a million demonstrations is not needed…at least not for me. I believe this discussion is more about verifying a starseed not so much about PLR. How can we properly determine the origins of man and/or speak about the realms of space if we can’t even trust the information/references giving to us by the very people we don’t trust?

Peace

[we-R-one]

The people that know me think its strange that I can talk endlessly about astral projection but if they want proof, I have nothing to give. I tell them the same thing " Prove to ME its not true".

Blessings,
Annette

EXACTLY! lol

[Peace of Mind]

To be clear on my stance on this...
I protest/attend demonstrations/help organize think tanks and local neighborhood summits/ feed the needy/ and talk to thugs, misfits, gangsters, drug dealers, and prostitutes about responsibility, real empowerment and our future….amongst other things. It's hard doing this alone and/or with few people. You'll be surprise how many "unaware" people put their lives on the line everyday for the well being of all of us (including the self proclaim starseeds). It'll be cool to see a few of these advance beings out there in the fray with us. It's the least they can do, imo.

This topic has been discussed here (and elsewhere) for years and the discussion has never change or hardly advanced past the part of claiming to be one of these entities. Just to gain a bit more clarity I have a few questions that may help in broadening your points of view? 1. In a year from now what do you think the world/Earth will look like? 2. What are your plans to assist in the needed changes in this world? 3. How do you (or other star seeds) plan to raise the vibrations/ global consciousness?

I have other questions and more insight I would like to add but for now… this will suffice.

Peace

Peace of Mind,

I have a very good response for you, but it will take time to type it out and I just can't get to it right now, but will soon. I actually had it done yesterday, when my computer locked on me and I lost the whole thing...grrrrr....I have posted the "solution" several times on this forum with the science backing what I say and it hardly gets noticed. The impression I get from most people is they don't want the solution and for various reasons, but the one's listed below are what stand out in my mind the most.
1. They don't want to do the work
2. They're waiting for someone else to do it for them- i.e. Drake
3. If the results aren't fast enough there must be something wrong
4. Whoever is putting out the concept is never "messiah" enough or whatever else anyone can find wrong with the person instead of listening to the messge
5. People's focus seems to be concentrated on dark issues and anything that promotes fear

I too have gotten involved within my community so if you want to list credentials I can share that I'm the founder of two of the largest patriot groups in my state. I've also participated in supporting the "pro se" movement where these guys are fighting back in the court systems by representing themselves. So I assure you I am walking the walk and not just talking the talk. My next move will be assisting in cleaning up the mortgage mess in which the banksters have clouded just about every property title they could get their hands on in our country. So I hear your comments that no one seems to want to make the effort....trust me, I know too well and its probably my biggest complaint. I'm tired of the complacency myself.

Your responses to me show that you base your knowledge on a 3rd dimensional belief system and if you want to get out of 3D, you have to shift your set of beliefs. The difference between 3D and 5D is a belief system. I'll give you some definitions so you can understand why I say what I say. Lots of times it's difficult to interpret what someone is trying to convey because our words have so many different meanings.

Thanks for your detailed message, I will do my best to answer as much as I can. Please know that we may find differences in what we both may deem to be "proof". When you learn to look within, the proof doesn't always have to show itself in a tangible form. For those of us who understand this, based on our own experiences, we cannot always provide you with the kind of proof in the form that you think is substantial. So for instance, if I'm telling you about a dream I had, how am I to prove what happened in that dream? I have nothing physical to give you, only my memory as the recollection of what the dream was about, see what I mean? It's the same with the energy concept, you can't see it, but you know it exists. So keep in mind, just because you can't see something doesn't necessarily mean it doesn't exist.

Words can’t express the gratitude flowing through my body when I read your contributions; it would be nice to collaborate our ideas and contributions (be it here, or elsewhere). I just want to take this show (Avalon) on the road, make it worldwide instead of just letting the potential here sit in a distant corner of the internet. The world can use more people like those that post in this forum. This place means more to me than some here may think. I’m just a no nonsense, direct, fair, but active being wanting to make the world exactly what we all to want it to be. We talk about it so much, so I feel we need to be more about it and less talking about it. But, that’s just my expectations and I can kind of understand why some rather go a different route. Not everyone is cut out to do what I do, and I’m fine with that. It would help to see more good news being circulated here as appose to seeing disempowering subjects that seem to make many of the members uneasy. We control this ride; we just need be mindful on the road we have chosen to travel on. I'm all about doing, and we can do whatever we put our minds to.

Peace

[we-R-one]

PS.

Now if I take the time to lay all this out, I would really appreciate some acknowledgment to my post. I'm not saying you have to agree with me, but the amount of time it takes to answer all these questions is enormous. But I find it really annoying when I do this and then no one acknowledges my posts. So I'm more than happy to answer questions, believe me, I want the discussion, but I have grown tired of forum members blowing by posts after someone goes to great lengths to explain themselves. I do my best to type out a message that is clear, concise and orderly so that anyone can follow, so I know they're not being overlooked because I can't communicate. My post will be long in order to answer questions and make my case...

So I have to ask you Peace of Mind, are you willing to read the whole thing through? Will you watch the l links I give? Because if you're not serious, than I would rather not waste my time, but I believe you are, because you took the time to write me a very detailed message so I was pleased about that. Click thanks on this post if you are willing and I will put the time in to answer everything.

[Peace of Mind]

PS.

Now if I take the time to lay all this out, I would really appreciate some acknowledgment to my post. I'm not saying you have to agree with me, but the amount of time it takes to answer all these questions is enormous. But I find it really annoying when I do this and then no one acknowledges my posts. So I'm more than happy to answer questions, believe me, I want the discussion, but I have grown tired of forum members blowing by posts after someone goes to great lengths to explain themselves. I do my best to type out a message that is clear, concise and orderly so that anyone can follow, so I know they're not being overlooked because I can't communicate. My post will be long in order to answer questions and make my case...

So I have to ask you Peace of Mind, are you willing to read the whole thing through? Will you watch the l links I give? Because if you're not serious, than I would rather not waste my time, but I believe you are, because you took the time to write me a very detailed message so I was pleased about that. Click thanks on this post if you are willing and I will put the time in to answer everything.

I most certainly will acknowledge your post, and I'm sure others will too. That said, only do it if it comes from the heart, because there are many lurkers (non members) who can not give you the acknowledgement you're asking for.

Peace

[we-R-one]

ok thanks, and yes, always from the heart and that is the key component to the solution I will present.

[Jake]

Awesome, we are on the same page. I love your words. Thank you. I do not understand how one loving person could demand proof from another, when talking about subjective experience. How can you justify demanding proof, and then tell me that you can 'demonstrate' you proof,,, yet others cannot!!?? I am not trying to call you out, personally. Please understand this. "Prove it!" Might work for you. Doesn't work for me. I have had too many fully conscious and waking 'spiritual' experiences to ever have the need to prove it. If you have not, then you have some pretty cool experiences ahead of you.

You can demand proof in a court of law, or when doing mathematical eqations,,, But not with subjective human experience. It does not work like that.
I can demonstrate it in a million ways... that is not the PROOF that you are looking for, is it?

When talking about past lives and memories of past lives,,, of course these are all subjective experiences, Please, let's keep the door open for folks who may just have an experience or two to share. The reality of understanding our past life essence is not going to go away. There is a story unfolding.

Love to all,,, Jake.


I think we can agree that one’s belief of being a “special being” is subjective. I don’t think realizing your dormant abilities of being human classifieds a person to being from somewhere else in the cosmos. Most, if not all of our knowledge about the cosmos is still laced with theories. So how can people without the experience of leaving the Earth’s atmosphere know exactly what’s out there. I do a lot of research as far as the cosmos are concern and I can poke many holes in what NASA and our history books teach us. In fact, much of the teachings are on the verge of being change which suggest to me the cosmos is nothing like we think it is. Which sought of explains why I hold doubt whenever someone makes claims about Stars, etc...

At least one clear demonstration of being a starseed would be enough, a million demonstrations is not needed…at least not for me. I believe this discussion is more about verifying a starseed not so much about PLR. How can we properly determine the origins of man and/or speak about the realms of space if we can’t even trust the information/references giving to us by the very people we don’t trust?

Peace

Indeed, thank you. Brother, if I could prove it to you, I would. I most definately would! I think that part of the issue with opening oneself up to this sort of information is the nonsensical belief that being a soul/essence from another reality, (physical or not) seems to be interperated as some sort of amazing or one-of-a-kind event. The truth is that it is more common than one would think. My perspective being that souls are immortal,,, they did not start here, and they do not end here. It is only logical (sort of ;)) to understand the essence of soul being more/bigger than the essence of any ONE physical lifetime. And why do phyisical lifetimes have to be human?? I went through much of the lonely depression that comes with denying my true nature. Delores Cannon's material resonates with me deeply. I do not want to go into to much detail from my own experience, but being a 'starseed' does not mean that we STARTED as an alien, either... It simply means that we know that we belong to a group that is not part of the human experience. We have to begin to understand that it is not only POSSIBLE... but it is more PROBABLE that we all have the experiences of many lifetimes, locked away. Amnesia is a good word, I guess.

Jake.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Although I dont have much information on "Starseeds", I have read about them quite a bit and actually wonder if my daughter is one. She exibits most of the characteristics with the exception that she doesnt use her gifts or has forgotten she has them. Me being intuitive, I sense she has many abilities but she is in a very painful waking coma so to speak. I dont know what to make of all this and dont know how to wake my daughter up. I have tried on a daily basis for the last year and a half to get her out of this destructive "funk" she is in but with no sucess. I believe her not feeling like she belongs here has unfortunately put her into a depression that she cant seem to pull herself out of.
I wish there was a way to know for sure, and to help her becuase I know she is unhappy and she gets this unhappiness from somewhere else. I am always a happy positive person and she just keeps getting deeper into her aloneness and sadness. I have had some education in psycology so I know what to identify and what things need to be done to help her but none of these things are helping in the slightest.
One day I asked her to read the list of characteristics of a starseed and she just started crying. Occasionally she wants to talk about it but she doesnt want to read about it on her own or search for her own answers.
She is 25 by the way and if anyone has any insight I would appreciate it. Here is a picture of Brittany.


Blessings,
Annette

My heart goes out to her, it really does, because clearly she is sad or depressed about something profound, either for something she has that she doesn’t want, or something she wants but doesn’t have. This is pretty much the root of all problems, and the only way out, effectively, is to ask which one it is. Only in asking can you even begin to work on answering…

It very much depends if she has any desire to seek for an answer – a way up and out of that spiral. That she burst into tears when you showed her the Starseed information is telling enough. She may well be. If that is the case then she must know, above all else, that she is not alone.

The worst part for anyone who is lost in the darkness of sorrow, whatever it is that one is going through, is believing that they walk alone. They do not. If only you could have her acknowledge that, knowthat, then it would be a big first step.

[Agape]

Although I dont have much information on "Starseeds", I have read about them quite a bit and actually wonder if my daughter is one. She exibits most of the characteristics with the exception that she doesnt use her gifts or has forgotten she has them. Me being intuitive, I sense she has many abilities but she is in a very painful waking coma so to speak. I dont know what to make of all this and dont know how to wake my daughter up. I have tried on a daily basis for the last year and a half to get her out of this destructive "funk" she is in but with no sucess. I believe her not feeling like she belongs here has unfortunately put her into a depression that she cant seem to pull herself out of.
I wish there was a way to know for sure, and to help her becuase I know she is unhappy and she gets this unhappiness from somewhere else. I am always a happy positive person and she just keeps getting deeper into her aloneness and sadness. I have had some education in psycology so I know what to identify and what things need to be done to help her but none of these things are helping in the slightest.
One day I asked her to read the list of characteristics of a starseed and she just started crying. Occasionally she wants to talk about it but she doesnt want to read about it on her own or search for her own answers.
She is 25 by the way and if anyone has any insight I would appreciate it. Here is a picture of Brittany.


Blessings,
Annette



Hello Annette,


I think it's actually really nice of you, being so open minded and trying to see your daughter as spiritual being .

I think that terms like 'star seed' are but attempts to name something we actually don't have exact name for , in these times and human society ,
being a 'star seed' , no matter what you say ..rises more questions than answers,

and those who came here to search for the bigger answers and to assist mankind in his progress have to do so on their own .

I'd say to people 'being a starseed and so what you do '. Serve others no matter who you are , if you are different or special you'll have to work twice more .
We all know it's the case ..

So I think, ordinary people ( meant in jest ) have much less problems with Life , or lets say human life than so called 'star seeds' .

They can be 'star nuts' . Or 'fallen angels' . Being different does not make your human life easier , it does not rob you of the necessity to confront strangeness of human experience, quite vice versa..


The answer is not of course, can not be found in questionaries .. If you are something or someone , you're subconsciously aware of your identity . Do not need others to tell you ,
unless the time for you is ready to open up ..and that comes much much later in life usually .

I think that the adverts for star seeds are misguiding many ways or may -be . It's not something to attain, not anything to envy either . Basically , you can't even find out unless through your self .



On the other hand ...what do I know about rising human child.. i'm sure it's being a challenging experience ..


Peace & Love ..and Freedom



:angel:

[Swan]

Although I dont have much information on "Starseeds", I have read about them quite a bit and actually wonder if my daughter is one. She exibits most of the characteristics with the exception that she doesnt use her gifts or has forgotten she has them. Me being intuitive, I sense she has many abilities but she is in a very painful waking coma so to speak. I dont know what to make of all this and dont know how to wake my daughter up. I have tried on a daily basis for the last year and a half to get her out of this destructive "funk" she is in but with no sucess. I believe her not feeling like she belongs here has unfortunately put her into a depression that she cant seem to pull herself out of.
I wish there was a way to know for sure, and to help her becuase I know she is unhappy and she gets this unhappiness from somewhere else. I am always a happy positive person and she just keeps getting deeper into her aloneness and sadness. I have had some education in psycology so I know what to identify and what things need to be done to help her but none of these things are helping in the slightest.
One day I asked her to read the list of characteristics of a starseed and she just started crying. Occasionally she wants to talk about it but she doesnt want to read about it on her own or search for her own answers.
She is 25 by the way and if anyone has any insight I would appreciate it. Here is a picture of Brittany.


Blessings,
Annette

Hi Annette,

Your daughter is beautiful!

Although my children are alot younger, I can relate somewhat to what you are going through. My children seem both to be "different", and sometimes I worry so much about how much pain this might cause them.

Anyway, this is what I find helpful:

From Abraham/Hicks I learnt the importance of holding the vibration of the desired outcome. For example; I used to worry about my son not making friends. So I tried to find within a vision of him; selfassured, with good friends, playing in his room. And then hold this vision in my heart area. Feeling it.
I should add that I could only do this when I was feeling relaxed and happy. When I was in fear it was too big a step to visualize the desired outcome.
I must say, it worked. Not instantly, but a while later there he was, in his room, playing with good friends.

I´m not suggesting this is THE answer, but it might help.

[DeDukshyn]

I'm not a fan of labels and I'm not a great fan of the term "Starseed" - I wish there was a better term.

I've been "different" my wholelife, especially when I was younger, I just knew things about really big things, had an uncanny connection to nature and animals and certain other people could always see things in me and would tell my mom that I was "special". I hated it. I hated being "special". In fact I spent much energy sabotaging myself so that I was NOT "special". I taught myself how to forget (had photographic memory), I decided I would need a handicap -- glasses would do -- less than a year later my eyes deteriorated and I needed glasses. I taught myself to lie -- something that went (and still does) go against every particle of my being. I even downplayed all my talents. I did these things to try to be more "normal" and to this day I still live with all these effects.

My point? Life is hard when you're different - it doesn't matter even what that difference is.

The upside? My "different-ness" has allowed me to help the overall project move forward. I now understand what I am to be doing, and I also now understand exactly what the differences between me and "ordinary folk" are - which honestly isn't much. Besides my clearly pretty good set of genes, the main difference between what humans are and what they need to be is almost psychological - just a difference in perspective. I had been able to access certain views as a child that gave me an advantage in moving toward this direction, but really I think there's not a whole lot more. Therefore I tend to think of "Starseeds" as the pioneers of new ways of human "Being" to address the "Beingness" factor of humanity and to help shift the course from perpetual darkness into enlightenment - as is the natural course of our evolution.

Am I an alien or did I get seeded from the stars? Who knows and I don't really care, I am human now and I'm having a great time with it (it hasn't always been this way - I nearly snuffed myself on more than one occasion), besides it was never me who was "different" anyway -- it was everyone else ;) ;) ;)

Just some rambling 2 cent thoughts. Happy Friday! ;)

(Didn't see the vid yet but will check it later)

[we-R-one]

I don’t think realizing your dormant abilities of being human classifieds a person to being from somewhere else in the cosmos. Most, if not all of our knowledge about the cosmos is still laced with theories. So how can people without the experience of leaving the Earth’s atmosphere know exactly what’s out there.

Have you had the opportunity to explore the NDE (Near Death Experience) or reincarnation? I think these concepts are worthy to point out as it explains part of the truth we are seeking. The reality is we're all from somewhere else. How do we know this? Because if you study NDE and even reincarnation, you begin to understand that you are consciousnessness and that is huge! You can't see consciousness! But to say it doesn't exist...well we all know that's not true....see what I mean?

So once you grasp that you're consciousness what does that mean? It means you can go anywhere you want! You are immortal! So I'm glad you asked in the first paragraph above, because this is part of the truth. When you read stories of people's NDE or even reincarnation- how could they know some of the things that they know if they weren't there? How can someone die and then be able to describe to the doctors after they come back to life- the very conversations taking place in the room after they supposedly had died....and not only the conversations, but they can tell you detail things as to who's in the room and what they're wearing, etc.....This cannot be ignored- there is so much documented on this, but one might find this difficult to believe because it does not fit into the 3D belief systems that most people expect it to fit into. Which is why I say, in order to get out of the matrix, you have to realize you're in it, the belief system that supports it, and then recognize how to get out of it.

I am hopeful through our dialogue that maybe I offer pieces of the puzzle that you haven't come across yet that will help you come to the same conclusion that many of us have, or at least understand why some of us say the things we do.

I do a lot of research as far as the cosmos are concern and I can poke many holes in what NASA and our history books teach us. In fact, much of the teachings are on the verge of being change which suggest to me the cosmos is nothing like we think it is. Which sought of explains why I hold doubt whenever someone makes claims about Stars, etc...

At least one clear demonstration of being a starseed would be enough, a million demonstrations is not needed…at least not for me. I believe this discussion is more about verifying a starseed not so much about PLR. How can we properly determine the origins of man and/or speak about the realms of space if we can’t even trust the information/references giving to us by the very people we don’t trust?

Let me ask this.....Who would you trust to give you proper information? What will satisfy you as being a proper source and why should it be a proper source for everyone to believe? I ask this because we all know how twisted the truth has become thanks to the PTB. So you have definitely come to the right conclusion based on some of your research, just like the rest of us. I think this is all the more reason to take seriously the things I say and the things that others say and then compare notes. You will probably get more truth from personal experiences than someone from above who claims they are the moral authority on the very topics we are discussing. It could be you just haven't come across the right piece of material that reinforces enough in a manner that satisfies your individual expectations.

So when I read your last sentence above...this is why you look for the truth within and not necessarily wait to hear it come from someone above. My answers to you are based on lots of reading and my own personal experiences of truth coming from within. And though my experiences may be different from others, it does not make anyone's truth necessarily obsolete or superior over anothers.

I'm not sure what kind of demonstration you need for a star seed to prove oneself? As mentioned before, lots of times my skills are random and do not necessarily happen on command. I will however in a later post share something that I did, that I think validates even more why I fall under the star seed classification and gives some credence to our existence. Again, I can't physically prove it to you, because it happened a long time ago, but I can give you the thought process that created the outcome. Additionally the effects of what I did, happened internally so I have nothing tangible to give you other than the thought process and why I believe it was key to the solution that we all have been searching for...and it's the very reason I believe I'm here;..... so that I may share that experience on a mass scale with others, so they too can contribute to the solution using the concept I discovered in order to shift our reality to the higher frequencies of love and compassion rather than remaining in the lower frequencies of duality.




Peace

Hi Peace,

My answers are in blue; thanks for the nice dialogue from you and all who have been participating on this thread.

[we-R-one]

Although I dont have much information on "Starseeds", I have read about them quite a bit and actually wonder if my daughter is one. She exibits most of the characteristics with the exception that she doesnt use her gifts or has forgotten she has them. Me being intuitive, I sense she has many abilities but she is in a very painful waking coma so to speak. I dont know what to make of all this and dont know how to wake my daughter up. I have tried on a daily basis for the last year and a half to get her out of this destructive "funk" she is in but with no sucess. I believe her not feeling like she belongs here has unfortunately put her into a depression that she cant seem to pull herself out of.
I wish there was a way to know for sure, and to help her becuase I know she is unhappy and she gets this unhappiness from somewhere else. I am always a happy positive person and she just keeps getting deeper into her aloneness and sadness. I have had some education in psycology so I know what to identify and what things need to be done to help her but none of these things are helping in the slightest.
One day I asked her to read the list of characteristics of a starseed and she just started crying. Occasionally she wants to talk about it but she doesnt want to read about it on her own or search for her own answers.
She is 25 by the way and if anyone has any insight I would appreciate it. Here is a picture of Brittany.


Blessings,
Annette

Hi Annette,

Your daughter is beautiful!

Although my children are alot younger, I can relate somewhat to what you are going through. My children seem both to be "different", and sometimes I worry so much about how much pain this might cause them.

Anyway, this is what I find helpful:

From Abraham/Hicks I learnt the importance of holding the vibration of the desired outcome. For example; I used to worry about my son not making friends. So I tried to find within a vision of him; selfassured, with good friends, playing in his room. And then hold this vision in my heart area. Feeling it.
I should add that I could only do this when I was feeling relaxed and happy. When I was in fear it was too big a step to visualize the desired outcome.
I must say, it worked. Not instantly, but a while later there he was, in his room, playing with good friends.

I´m not suggesting this is THE answer, but it might help.

Perfect example of how to be heart centered......this is where it's at!

[ThePythonicCow]

It is not the responsibility of the folks here to PROVE anything to you, my friend

For me, it's quite the opposite: if there was truly no responsibility, anyone could say anything...:rolleyes:

...
As Carl Sagan said, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
I think it depends on the claim where the burden lies.

The burden for ordinary verifiable claims lies with the one making the claim. If I claim I have five dollars, and wish to convince you of that, then it's my responsibility to show you the five dollars in my possession.

The burden for ordinary falsifiable claims lies with the other party. If I claim to the policeman I don't have any illegal drugs on me, the burden lies on him to search me and find some drugs, proving otherwise.

Similarly for various other ordinary and extraordinary claims, some of which could be objectively validated, some of which could be objectively invalidated, some of which cannot (yet anyway) be decisively determined either way, and some of which are quite subjective, resistant to any sort of validation or invalidation.

[Peace of Mind]

I can agree with just about everything you said, i'm well aware of this, we-r-one . And yes I've had a few near death experiences in my younger (and naive) days. But i still don't see how this makes one a star seed. Do you care to give a brief description of a star seed...in your own words. I've read and heard from many sources....just would like to see it from your view.

Peace

[4evrneo]

Although I dont have much information on "Starseeds", I have read about them quite a bit and actually wonder if my daughter is one. She exibits most of the characteristics with the exception that she doesnt use her gifts or has forgotten she has them. Me being intuitive, I sense she has many abilities but she is in a very painful waking coma so to speak. I dont know what to make of all this and dont know how to wake my daughter up. I have tried on a daily basis for the last year and a half to get her out of this destructive "funk" she is in but with no sucess. I believe her not feeling like she belongs here has unfortunately put her into a depression that she cant seem to pull herself out of.
I wish there was a way to know for sure, and to help her becuase I know she is unhappy and she gets this unhappiness from somewhere else. I am always a happy positive person and she just keeps getting deeper into her aloneness and sadness. I have had some education in psycology so I know what to identify and what things need to be done to help her but none of these things are helping in the slightest.
One day I asked her to read the list of characteristics of a starseed and she just started crying. Occasionally she wants to talk about it but she doesnt want to read about it on her own or search for her own answers.
She is 25 by the way and if anyone has any insight I would appreciate it. Here is a picture of Brittany.


Blessings,
Annette

Hi Annette,

Your daughter is beautiful!

Although my children are alot younger, I can relate somewhat to what you are going through. My children seem both to be "different", and sometimes I worry so much about how much pain this might cause them.

Anyway, this is what I find helpful:

From Abraham/Hicks I learnt the importance of holding the vibration of the desired outcome. For example; I used to worry about my son not making friends. So I tried to find within a vision of him; selfassured, with good friends, playing in his room. And then hold this vision in my heart area. Feeling it.
I should add that I could only do this when I was feeling relaxed and happy. When I was in fear it was too big a step to visualize the desired outcome.
I must say, it worked. Not instantly, but a while later there he was, in his room, playing with good friends.

I´m not suggesting this is THE answer, but it might help.

Perfect example of how to be heart centered......this is where it's at!

Thank you so much for responding swan, Love this idea !
I will definitely start doing this daily ! I would do anything for both my children and this seems like it would be a very effective start.

Blessings,
Annette

[4evrneo]

we-R-one,
Thank you for all your insight into this controversial topic and for taking the time to share your views and experience.
This has been helpful to learn more about Starseeds. For my daughters sake, I want to learn as much as I can to help her.

Blessings,
Annette

[Peace of Mind]

To be a bit more clear we-r-one.... I do not believe much of what is taught to us about the cosmos...simply because of the source of information . To explain would be a whole other topic. Just want to see your perspective, it would be more enlightening without using the knowledge we were thought about, concerning "out of space".


PS. Please forgive the delays in my replies. Cellphones are not really made for such discussions.

Peace

[we-R-one]

I can agree with just about everything you said, i'm well aware of this, we-r-one . And yes I've had a few near death experiences in my younger (and naive) days. But i still don't see how this makes one a star seed. Do you care to give a brief description of a star seed...in your own words. I've read and heard from many sources....just would like to see it from your view.

Peace

ok, thanks Peace Yes I wanted to mention...I don't know where you're at in your discovery, so I just try and lay everything out, as I don't know what you know, so it helps when you give me feedback like this because then I understand if the concepts are familiar to you or not. The point of me discussing NDE and reincarnation does not necessarily have anything to do with making someone a star seed. The reason I wanted to cover those two areas is because you said this:

"I don’t think realizing your dormant abilities of being human classifieds a person to being from somewhere else in the cosmos. Most, if not all of our knowledge about the cosmos is still laced with theories. So how can people without the experience of leaving the Earth’s atmosphere know exactly what’s out there."

What I'm getting at is people do leave earth's atmosphere- and by understanding that you're consciousness, you can easily see there's a real possibility that you can go practically anywhere you want and most likely have, as you reincarnate. But to understand that, you have to believe in reincarnation, which does not particularly fall under the the belief system of someone who resides in the concepts of 3D.

So if you weren't familiar with NDE or reincarnation, and you didn't believe in either topic, you would have a hard time understanding consciousness and the role it plays within this conversation. The supposed story about star seeds is that they come from higher dimensions, in order to help raise the frequencies on this planet which in turn is suppose to help shift the vibratory rate, which in turn is suppose to change the reality. Well if we're consciousness, than it is very likely that some could be coming from other places based on what we know about NDE and reincarnation. I hope that makes sense?

I will layout characteristics of star seeds in another post. If I remember right, someone also posted a link at the start of this thread. I think whoever follows this conversation needs to start at the very beginning to understand and keep up, otherwise one might get lost or not fully understand the reason behind things being said and I'll be able to tell by the questions if you've been following along or not, lol.

Unfortunately since this is a complex topic, it's not easy covering all the basis in a few short paragraphs, because to understand, you have to be able to pull yourself out of 3D belief systems that you have been programmed to follow as the only underlying truth.

[RunningDeer]

Here's a video I came across while exploring my star seed identity that you might enjoy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNqzPf3pBjc

New Information for me: "The souls of the Starchildren are the souls of highly advanced Extraterrestrials. Angelics. Ascended beings, and some are even the souls of the Elohim."


"These Individuals recognize the law of ONE and the importance of spiritual connection to supreme source.
Be they Indigo, crystal, rainbow or other …
Their presence brings hope for all of Humanity.
They are here to hold the light for the World."

A Thanks: This Indigo, thanks you, We-R-One, and all the other Starseeds, and "Indigo, Crystal, Rainbow or Other..." for holding the light for the World.

Peace and Blessings,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

PS Respectfully, if one asks me to prove I am an Indigo please know that I’m not here to convince you of anything. I'm fine if you don't believe, it doesn't change what is for me.


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Lighthouses/8.JPG

[we-R-one]

we-R-one,
Thank you for all your insight into this controversial topic and for taking the time to share your views and experience.
This has been helpful to learn more about Starseeds. For my daughters sake, I want to learn as much as I can to help her.

Blessings,
Annette

I'm glad I can help. The fact that she cried when she read the information is very telling. I know when I first came across the info, it took me three weeks to absorb/accept what I was reading. It was mind blowing, over-whelming and well......I had no one to talk to....I couldn't believe what I was reading/discovering. So many emotions all at once. You're daughter is so lucky to have you at such an awakened state!

This is an excerpt from my book I hope to put together some day about my star seed background and awakening experience, this is what it felt like at my moment upon discovering the star seed identity, this was the beginning of my awakening. I was writing this letter to a friend I had met within the patriot movement. The date of this letter was June 28, 2010:

"... about two years ago I began to awake. I’ve always known I was different, but did not understand the purpose of these differences. Similar to a light switch, someone turned me on and like magic; I began to quickly connect the dots that soon led me to the purpose of my very existence. I never imagined that this existence would entail that of a lightworker enabling those to experience ascension in the hopes to help save humanity from the destruction of the dark….somebody please pinch me,…. no slap me, might be more fitting,…. cause at times I feel like I’m living in a movie and it all seems surreal. I’m not kidding when I tell you this recent discovery literally brought me to my knees in disbelief…..it has been a very humbling and emotional experience. I can’t even begin to explain what the weight of that kind of responsibility feels like, not to mention the fact that someone has entrusted in my soul to handle something of such a sacred magnitude. I’m not embarrassed to share that I have spent several nights drowning myself in endless glasses of wine attempting to “get a grip” .……. Have you ever seen those scenes in movies where they’re filming the character by spinning around them with the camera really fast? That’s exactly what it feels like……everything just started spinning around me when I began to grasp the true purpose of all the puzzle pieces coming together.………The years of unexplained abilities, past dealings with ascension(with no realization of the concept) and various other events that has lead me to believe there is no doubt to my role in this big picture. I am still amazed how I knew exactly what to do without any guidance, I just did it (thank you crystalline DNA). At the time I had no vocabulary to understand what it was that I was doing, but now it’s all making sense…."

You have to take into consideration that my level of knowledge has grown since writing this portion, which was done about two weeks into my discovery. I see a little inaccuracy in my descripton, but I'm leaving it, because I want it to read exactly like it felt at the time. To finally be able to identify myself with certain traits and characteristics was a huge relief. I know I mentioned I wasn't a fan of labels, but they do serve a purpose as long as they're utilized correctly.

Your daughter is probably overwhelmed by the information. I was in my mid 40's when I wrote this...your daughter is only 25. So I can tell you, internally when all the dots started connecting, the other thing I realized was that my world was not set up for the reasons I thought I always knew to be true. When you make the connection of being a star seed for the first time, you are realizing that you're not from here and that there's a high likely-hood that you are alien. That's a pretty overwhelming concept for someone to accept for the first time. Of course everyone's reaction is going to be different, it just depends on the source and how scary the information being presented is being laid out. When this happened to me, I was still somewhat in 3D mode, I had not completely stepped outside of the psychological matrix.

What could be scaring your daughter is the walls of reality she once knew to be safe are crumbling down and it's making her feel very insecure, because now in her mind, she is probably questioning everything and not knowing what's real or not.

I hope she chooses to research star seed information in more depth, as she might feel better once she has a better grasp on the whole topic. I laugh about my awakening moment above....but I wasn't laughing back then.

[RunningDeer]

We-R-One, you demonstrate great restraint and patience in this thread and everywhere else for that matter. Thank you for the time and energy and vast knowledge base that you share with us.

With heart,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer


PS.

Now if I take the time to lay all this out, I would really appreciate some acknowledgment to my post. I'm not saying you have to agree with me, but the amount of time it takes to answer all these questions is enormous. But I find it really annoying when I do this and then no one acknowledges my posts. So I'm more than happy to answer questions, believe me, I want the discussion, but I have grown tired of forum members blowing by posts after someone goes to great lengths to explain themselves. I do my best to type out a message that is clear, concise and orderly so that anyone can follow, so I know they're not being overlooked because I can't communicate. My post will be long in order to answer questions and make my case...

So I have to ask you Peace of Mind, are you willing to read the whole thing through? Will you watch the l links I give? Because if you're not serious, than I would rather not waste my time, but I believe you are, because you took the time to write me a very detailed message so I was pleased about that. Click thanks on this post if you are willing and I will put the time in to answer everything.

[we-R-one]

Here's a video I came across while exploring my star seed identity that you might enjoy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNqzPf3pBjc

New Information for me: "The souls of the Starchildren are the souls of highly advanced Extraterrestrials. Angelics. Ascended beings, and some are even the souls of the Elohim."


"These Individuals recognize the law of ONE and the importance of spiritual connection to supreme source.
Be they Indigo, crystal, rainbow or other …
Their presence brings hope for all of Humanity.
They are here to hold the light for the World."

A Thanks: This Indigo, thanks you, We-R-One, and all the other Starseeds, and "Indigo, Crystal, Rainbow or Other..." for holding the light for the World.

Peace and Blessings,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer



I'm glad you brought that up WCBD...you know what's funny about that information....- when I had my past life reading done with Kevin Ryerson, he didn't know I was a star seed. I asked what soul group I was from and I was told I came from the soul group of Archangel Michael and Raphael. At the time I had not come across this video as of yet. But as you noted above, they mention star seeds coming from angelic realms. So I thought that was intriguing to come across that video and have it mention that. It was another dot connecting moment that made me think there could be truth to what's being said.

[RunningDeer]

Awesome, we are on the same page. I love your words. Thank you. I do not understand how one loving person could demand proof from another, when talking about subjective experience.

Jake, I'd say the same for you, as for We-R-One, your patience to share knowledge and the tolerance for opposing opinions just blows me away.

With heart,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer :wave:

[RunningDeer]

Here's a video I came across while exploring my star seed identity that you might enjoy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNqzPf3pBjc

New Information for me: "The souls of the Starchildren are the souls of highly advanced Extraterrestrials. Angelics. Ascended beings, and some are even the souls of the Elohim."


"These Individuals recognize the law of ONE and the importance of spiritual connection to supreme source.
Be they Indigo, crystal, rainbow or other …
Their presence brings hope for all of Humanity.
They are here to hold the light for the World."

A Thanks: This Indigo, thanks you, We-R-One, and all the other Starseeds, and "Indigo, Crystal, Rainbow or Other..." for holding the light for the World.

Peace and Blessings,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer



I'm glad you brought that up WCBD...you know what's funny about that information....- when I had my past life reading done with Kevin Ryerson, he didn't know I was a star seed. I asked what soul group I was from and I was told I came from the soul group of Archangel Michael and Raphael. At the time I had not come across this video as of yet. But as you noted above, they mention star seeds coming from angelic realms. So I thought that was intriguing to come across that video and have it mention that. It was another dot connecting moment that made me think there could be truth to what's being said.

Your post is the third major synchronistic marker in 24 hours from a personal question I put out there for my Angelic guys. I backed away from them because of all the bad rap on dark ones. This is a personal experience (one of many many) from a couple of months ago called: "Sword, Shield, Armor = Spirit, Knowledge, Power/Wisdom (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=522870#post522870)".

[we-R-one]

hmm... thanks for taking the time to write this, we-r-one.

"Here's the deal....the days of being politically correct are over for me...I'm no longer accessing that time-line. We need to be as open as possible about discussing our experiences. If fellow star seeds don't start talking, how are we ever going to know? How can we compare notes if we don't talk? Cause we all know we're not going to get the truth from the PTB, so what are we waiting for?"

I cannot help if someone wants to think that by identifying one-self as a star seed, in their mind, they perceive that we think we're better than anyone else or they think we're in need of some attention. That says to me, the person who thinks that might have some insecurity issues. I do feel that star seeds are more advanced in some ways compared to others. I do not think it makes us better.....the reason we are more advanced is because we're older souls who have experience. You cannot have all souls at the same level, it wouldn't work in the environment of duality. The only way the game works is if you have people at varying levels. It's not about being superior to others because when you truly understand the big picture, we are all one in the same anyways, a worthy point to mention, but that's another whole story.

Its not about insecurity issues, is about making claims and not displaying the attributes of those claims nor presenting anything of substance to link to the claims. Anybody can claim to be anything but we/society are accustomed to seeing such claims in action. Many people are starting to get really tired of the smoke screens and how it always seems to masks and create inactivity. We are getting tired of fear mongers, tired of hype that never meets it's expectations, tired of failed predictions, tired of seeing acts of division in motion. We want walkers not talkers. I suspect such entities have a master plan to put into effect, no?

I think we covered most of this all ready in discussing not being able to show proof for subjective experiences. For some situations, it's impossible to give the physical proof that you may want, but that does not mean the experience does not exist. To me, part of thinking in 3D is constantly requiring a tangible item before believing something is true. As far as entities having a master plan...I have no idea, nor am I privy to any information in regards to that, so I really can't comment. I will tell you my concern is that it seems to go against the principles of learning to be the controller of your own reality. This shift that's taking place is suppose to be pulling us out of "messiah" mode. Well if the ET's show up with a message of being our saviors, that might concern me, because what makes that scenario any different than the one we're all ready in? I'm more of the belief that the ET's are all ready here, such as star seeds, with the job of laying down the foundation to a new reality so that others may walk over the path with greater ease. I think as you continue on with my posts, this will be come more apparent how this is happening based on the solution I plan on sharing.

In my mind the varying levels of souls is possibly part of the real evolution process. All of us have the potential to utilize what currently is recognized as metaphysical abilities, but I believe, based on what I have observed and read, that the only reason star seeds seem to have stronger skill sets is because they are more advanced and further along in the evolution process. We are here to carve the way for those who do not "believe".

How do you make believers out of people who are fixed in 3D?

You don't. I don't necessarily think everyone is meant to be a believer. I am of the belief that you have souls down here on earth at various levels. I'm not convinced everyone is suppose to wake up....as frustrating as that has become for a lot of us. Those that are ready to awaken, will step forward and begin to ask questions. I know many people that are still walking around in a coma-like trance. They're not bad people, but for whatever reason, it's not their time to awaken...maybe it's not part of their life blueprint..or maybe they're playing a dark role for another soul to learn and part of that role means they stay asleep, or maybe while someone near and dear to them is allowed to explore and evolve, the other soul's job is to hold down the fort at home so to speak.

People are going to wake up when they're ready; all you can do is plant seeds. Those that become drawn to you are who you want to work with. In time, as enough people awaken, those left who haven't, will- see 100th Monkey Syndrome study (I will post this definition later)

Your comments above fit the parameters of someone who thinks with a 3D mind; that being, if you can't see it, touch it, feel it, taste it, it doesn't exist. If we are to explore other realities we have to get away from this thought process as it does not apply outside the matrix, otherwise you are supporting the belief system of the very matrix you want to remove yourself from. The perfect example of something that exists, but you can't necessarily see, is energy; but you believe in it and you know it's real. Metaphysical abilities are dealing with that energy, and just because you can't see them, doesn't mean their existence isn't real. You see what I mean? When I have a telepathic experience I am utilizing something that cannot be seen and yet the experience is very real to me because I can "feel" the results. I don't have to necessarily see anything to know it's true. Now a younger soul which is less advanced would not understand that.

Are you speaking from a 4D/5D perspective? I didn’t realize someone could do this, especially when they still reside in 3D. What’s it like in the realm you’re speaking from? I’m curious because I really don’t follow the unconfirmed teachings of others. Instead, I rather go through life dealing with reality and expand my awareness by handling actual issues. How are you able to leave 3D, and at the same time feel comfortable ignoring the issues that exist in 3D?

Let's define the word dimension as this will help explain my viewpoint more clearly. There is much confusion between dimension and density. Many who have studied the Law of One material utilize the word density. I interchange the two words as meaning the same thing. I'm personally not clear as which is the most accurate. I think what's important is that you know the context in which I'm using the meaning of the word.

DIMENSION- A dimension is a state of consciousness. When you look at what we know about dimensions, what we find is that each is about a unique set of beliefs. Our current 3D consciousness was not established until enough people began to believe the same way. And the current 5D consciousness will not be established until enough of the people existing there figure out how to live in unity. So we see that when enough people live a set of beliefs they create a dimension.
SOURCE: Jelaila Starr

In this case, I'm referring the word dimension to mean a state of consciousness based on a set of beliefs, not necessarily a physical place that one occupies. This is why this can get confusing because words get interchanged and then you have several meanings for the same word! As if it's not confusing enough all ready! lol

So you'll know when I'm discussing the shift from 3D to 4D/5D I'm basically saying your set of beliefs change from one parameter to another. Which is why I will also say, if you want to get out of the matrix of 3D, you have to be willing to shift your set of beliefs as new truths come forward.

Your last question, "How are you able to leave 3D, and at the same time feel comfortable ignoring the issues that exist in 3D?"
Because it's a state of consciousness it's very easy to go in and out of dimensions. I can tell rather easy what dimension someone is in, based on what they say and where their belief system lies. When you begin to doing this, you're basically learning to live in multi-dimensionality. So once I assess where someone's at spiritually, I can then better decide which dimension they are coming from and speak to them appropriately. Right now this is easy, because most people are still in 3D, though I do see some going back and forth between 3D/5D. What's funny is because they don't fully understand, they're not even aware that they're switching back and forth or that they're really stepping outside of the matrix.

The issues in 3D aren't being ignored, it's just that I have placed my attention in a higher dimension in order to help create the change within the 3rd Dimension, by utilizing the belief systems of that higher dimension in order to influence that of the 3rd dimension.

I have no way to prove what I can do, because most of the results happen internally. To ignore my experiences and those of others based on the fact that they don't fit into the belief system of a 3D world would be a mistake. So let me ask you....who are we waiting for to authenticate what many of us all ready know is real? Are we waiting for the thought police to tell us what is real and what is not? And who is the "chosen one" which will present the facts? If you want out of 3D this is what you have to be thinking. There is nothing to loose and everything to gain.
Who are we waiting for?

Since I’ve been on this site people have come and gone making similar claims but never stated any plans/measures/or ideas that will fix our dire situation. They just come in saying they are this and that, waste great time by using the place as a hangout then disappear once their theories/ideas are met with rationality. The world is crumbling everyday, people are suffering everyday and the more people ignore this the more I feel there's some hidden devious force controlling those that can actually help by keeping them preoccupied with indefinable material. Imo, I think a few agents come in to make these claims just to stir up the nest, disempowering some people by stating empty claims (knowingly or not). In actuality, I really don’t mind, I just want to see/know when these beings are going to roll up their sleeves and start doing what they say they can do. As I stated earlier, I don’t really see any evidence of such beings, I just see more humans becoming aware of self and their suppressed abilities, and there is absolutely no evidence to suggest otherwise. Perhaps the awakening to self makes some people feel that way.

Hopefully when I finish explaining my star seed story in conjunction with the solution, you will be more convinced that we do exist and some of us are making attempts to help. Part of the risk we take when we agree to come to Earth is that we are subjected to the same things you are...which means we can get caught up in Earthly experiences that pull us away from our true purpose for being here which is to help in the transition. I have no idea why some souls begin to punch through the veil of amnesia and some don't make it past the start line. But we don't seem to be given any favoritism compared to other souls that I can see or am aware of.

I'm not making fun of you, but your comments above sound like a typical stereotype response that people are use to saying and believing. This is what we need to get away from.....Your decision above states that you are still in fear mode, and you are not comfortable stepping outside of the parameters of "preconceived misconceptions", based on what the collective masses would approve of according to the laws of a 3D society. If we keep with this mind-set we will never advance. Just to be clear, there is no tone in my post or intentions of superiority. My goal is to share what I have learned with others so that we may all grow and understand together by learning from each others experiences and the Avalon forum is the appropriate place this very topic should be discussed without ridicule and judgment.

I’m not sure what your definition of fear is, but here are some of mines. Fear is when you are too afraid to stand up to the small handful of oppressors in this world. Fear is when you are afraid to look at the world in its current state and pretend it’s suppose to be that way. Fear is hesitating to walk up to the police/military and tell them who their real enemies are. Fear is when you ignore reality and force yourself to believe in another one that you nor anyone else can prove exist. Fear is knowing/pretending life is an illusion but still hesitate to partake and change the illusion. Fear is looking for excuses before remedies. Fear is nothing but dealing with the unknown, but when you face fear it vanishes.

I bold-ed the two sentences that I don't agree with. The first sentence is not a form of fear, imo. Other realities do exist. Many scientists have come forward to show that several dimensions/realities are in existence. You have to take into consideration that we do not have full use of our eyes, which means....you're not necessarily seeing everything that's happening around you. I'm sure you can google and find the information that backs what I'm saying. This post is all ready pretty long. A perfect example is looking at video tapes that capture things that the eye was not capable of seeing. Other realities exist and are held together by a set of beliefs that the collective masses agree upon. I will give a longer definition of dimension in my next post that hopefully will clarify better what I'm trying to say.

In order to change your reality you have to step outside the one you're currently in; to me that doesn't necessarily mean one is operating in fear..it's quite the contrary. If you want to change your environment, how do you do that if you stay within the confines of what I refer to as a matrix? The saying - "Be the change you want to see" exemplifies how one can change their reality by stepping out of the belief systems of the one their in.

Sentence two...Life is an illusion. When you understand that you are consciousness and not your body, your job or your experiences here on earth, you begin to realize that what's happening on this planet is only an illusion. You are merely a soul who reincarnates down in this "illusion" for soul growth and learning, but it's not really who your are. So what's happening here isn't real! But you cannot come to this conclusion if you are not of the "belief" that NDE's or reincarnation even exists.

To be clear on my stance on this...
This topic has been discussed here (and elsewhere) for years and the discussion has never change or hardly advanced past the part of claiming to be one of these entities. Just to gain a bit more clarity I have a few questions that may help in broadening your points of view? 1. In a year from now what do you think the world/Earth will look like? 2. What are your plans to assist in the needed changes in this world? 3. How do you (or other star seeds) plan to raise the vibrations/ global consciousness?

I will answer these questions in further posts especially the one which will cover "the solution". I have no idea what the future is going to look like a year from now. All I can do is focus on what I want it to look like through the utilization of intentions. Assume the role so to speak, rather than waiting for another to do it for me. For all I know we could split into two different realities that encompass two separate planets, one thinking the other perished believing such silly thoughts of ascension, higher frequencies of love and light, while the other arrives on a planet that's the very reality they had envisioned and strived to create via their work toward promoting a shift in consciousness. My focus will be on the assumption role as I know the science is there to back what I all ready believe to be true.

I have other questions and more insight I would like to add but for now… this will suffice.

Peace

Combing back through this to make sure I addressed all your questions....The underlined comments are me, then you responded in black and then I answered in blue.

[we-R-one]

Description of star seeds and characteristics is coming up next.....

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along with definitions

[deridan]

Jake at #39,,,! . congruent ,
while i have not had time to note the faff bt p.o.mind & w.r.one,..cause i didn't have p.o.minds disagreement with principle of material
(..though in one way p.o.m [didn't read everything, just one line i caught]..yes many theories,..the most fascinating i find to be astrology...my no.1 hypothesis about the state of this world is that it does not run like it must..instead following of status-quo takes place,misplaced solutions, but if astrology can be such a good indicator of what the person is, then kabalic opinion must be right, all this must be illusion..how else could planets preside so strongly over *characteristics {*source}.... yes so peace.o.m i've just chosen to stand back and see if this can justify my time or whether there is gold to mine from this area, so i am allowing the central characters like ww too to __ we say convince me {for what ever we are, still all of us share the experience of central conversation})

yes jake, ...our character subsets .philosophically speaking, they are broader than the phase of this dimension

[4evrneo]

Wow, we-R-one,
Thank you so much for sharing that. It gives me some insight into the many reasons she may be suffering still. I know that when she cried, she did feel a relief that something actually made sense for her. Maybe that cry of relief was a confirmation in herself that yes, something finally resonated and made her feel identified with. I am so appreciative of the time you have spent giving me a new perspective. The one thing I wonder about is that it does seem since my own awakening, that things are speeding up. Maybe it somehow was me that triggered something in her to start to be aware of things and I know that feeling of the world spinning around you, I have been amazed at myself at my ability to adapt so quickly to constant barrage of new information. Its as if tons of data is downloading at such a fast pace but some how I have managed to adapt. This is the fastest supertrain I have ever been on and its exhilarating and yet a little scarey in the beginning.
All my blessings,
Annette

[we-R-one]

It's an amazing experience for all of us, whether we're star seeds or not. There's definitely something going on- you can't tell me that several of us are faking this and what's happening isn't real.....well, I know it's not real but........you get what I mean. There is much talk of reaching zero point....which is why you feel like things are speeding up- I'm feeling that too. I'm not yet able to elaborate on the concept of zero point, but you might take a look at Gregg Braden on youtube since he discusses this a lot and probably better than myself.

You very well could have triggered her awakening, you see whoever is vibrating at the higher frequency effects those around them. It's my understanding that kids are being born at higher frequency rates as to match the transition taking place. I wish I had something concrete to show proof and there very well could be, I just haven't researched.

I feel the same way...like I'm trying to "download" as much information to catch up. It reminds of the Camelot interview with Dan Burish, where he talks about the j-Rod downloading information into his brain...that's what I'd like to get a hold of, lol. I think some of us are all ready familiar with the knowledge as it stays with us from incarnation to incarnation. We think of memories as being expressed in pictures, but that's not always the case. Memories are often portrayed in emotions, it's just that you aren't taught this and therefore ignore valuable information coming from within. I learned more about the process when I was investigating my own past life memories. It was quite helpful as it allowed me to access information more readily because I wasn't necessarily looking for the "picture" to consider something a memory.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Nice video :-) thank you.


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[TEEDA]

I came around the time of Atlantis and have been here for a while. This will be most

old star seeds last incarnations here, because the shift will be complete after 2013.

There is plenty of evidence to prove the existence of star seeds and I am

one myself. I found out after doing research there are many different variations of

star seeds as well which is pretty interesting


I just had the confirmation a month ago that I' m also a starseed. Even though I knew for some reasons because I felt so much alienated in today's world.
I was told I was an Arcturian crystal indigo hybrid starseed earth angel of the seventh ray. 7D.
Although I don't have any past memories, I feel a strong connection to my star family. And I am here as an observer but also assisting on the planetary shift for the time being as I already experienced on other star systems.

http://i49.tinypic.com/3buiw.jpg
;)

[Phoenix]

My proof is right here. I am a star seed. I think you just have your little

preconceived ideas on how things work. Honestly why are you even on this site

have you ever heard of past life regression? I guess all those thousands of people

who have had past life experiences were all lying. I also assume there is no life out

there in the universe, since there is no proof. If we want to go down that road were

is the proof of this global elite bent on world domination. Is there any proof god

even exists. If you wanna go by proof then the only thing we can prove is were

the only thing out there in the cosmos everything happens by coincidence and the

only purpose in life is to achieve as much material possessions as possible and then

rot in the ground. There is your proof lol and for the rest of us who believe there

something bigger in life I suggest getting a past life regression done yourself if you

need proof. All the proof you need is available within you just need to learn

how to look for it :ranger:

IMHO, if you really are a starseed... Do you really think you would be so cold in your response to this person? Whether you are a starseed or a lamppost or an ant, I feel we should have compassion no matter what physical manifestation we have assumed.

[we-R-one]

Hi Phoenix,

I can understand your point. I think sometimes some of us "older" star seeds get tired of being asked for proof all the time as we have mentioned on this thread; how do you prove something that is subjective? I guess at times our posts can be rough around the edges. I know for myself that I've had to work hard to make sure my presentations are toned down a bit when explaining as it's easy to get frustrated when people don't seem to get it. The difficulty that I'm beginning to recognize is that most want to use the parameters of a 3D belief system to validate and prove the up and coming reality of 5D. I'm sure there's a better way of explaining, but I'm at a loss of words right now, maybe someone else can step in and give a more thorough and detailed explanation.

In a nutshell every dimension is based on a unique set of beliefs that the masses agree to and follow, so when trying to understand this transition, one has to keep in mind that we'll be dealing with a different set of rules/belief systems in order to shape a new reality. At least that's what I have begun to recognize. I never see that explained real throughly, so it could be why friction is often created as more try to understand the shift in consciousness that's taking place.

[Jake]

IMHO, if you really are a starseed... Do you really think you would be so cold in your response to this person? Whether you are a starseed or a lamppost or an ant, I feel we should have compassion no matter what physical manifestation we have assumed.

Indeed, compassion is quite important. I fall victim to being human, myself. ;) I do not think that being a soul/essense from another demension or reality, gives anyone a special majical gift of compassion. Everyone has to work at it every day. No matter who is from where,,, we are all very much human here/now!! We all have to shed layers and do the personal work and developement that it takes to be a compassionate, sentient being.

Coming from a different perspective doesn't nesessarily make it easier. In many ways it is much harder. Being a starseed does not mean that you/we are the messiahs of this world. We are just as fallable as any other soul, wearing a human suit. It takes courage to embrace this stuff. It is one thing to try and open your mind enough to injest this sort of information,,, It is quite another thing when it is not a STORY at all, and you are faced with the reality that you, your soul/essence is not human at all. It is hard to embrace this kind of thing. Most would not face it,,, but bury their heads in the sand. And I can't blame them. The truths of the soul, and where we come from are shattering realities, only if we accept and embrace a completely foreign set of truths.

From the Delores Cannon perspective,,, Different 'waves' of incoming soul/essences have come into this sphere of reality, being incarnated into human bodies, so as to flush the world with 'fresh' essense so as to try and get the 'wheel of karma' spinning in a much more managable way... Soul/essenses from all sorts of places/realities. I think that part of the problem with trying to injest this stuff is that we (historically, as humans...) have always put any sort of soul like this onto some sort of devine platform, as if they were 'special'. There is no need for that any more. The epoc of worship will come to an end, (my prediction) and each individual human will stand in their own power and shine their own lights.

From the 'Jake' perspective. I know that I am not from around here... ;););) However,, I know damn well that I am just as human as any other. How can an immortal soul be human anyways?? Humans have not been around that long... :shocked: I will prove it to you between lives... This is a personal journey.

The one good demonstration that some are looking for,, will be when they realize it for themselves. Love to all. Jake.

[we-R-one]

I think it's important to cover a few definitions, so when I'm talking, the reader will have a better idea how to interpret the meaning of specific words by understanding the context in which they're being used. What I might do is come back and add more to this post as we move forward should any new terms need to be clarified so it's all on the same page and not spread from post to post.

I want to say upfront, all that I'm sharing comes from what I have learned/read over many years combined with actual personal experiences that have reinforced this knowledge. Could there be inaccuracies? YES. All of us are growing and evolving- as new information is put into the forefront, we may have to adjust or shift our beliefs to match new truths, so please take that into consideration when your reading not only anything I'm posting, but also any material you come across in regards to this topic. I often see people who are in the public eye get crucified for this very reason and I think it's unfair to toss all of their work because they might have misinterpreted or misunderstood information being shared.

DEFINITIONS

ASCENSION- On an individual level, ascension is the process of changing one’s consciousness from one reality, based on one set of beliefs, to another. On a group or planetary level, ascension is the collective expansion of a state of consciousness (set of beliefs) to the point where that consciousness creates a new reality—a new state of being or dimension (*The Hundredth Monkey Syndrome).
For example, 3D is about the belief that, this is the only life that we have and if you can’t touch it, taste it, see it, feel it or hear it, it doesn’t exist. 5D, is about Christ or Unity consciousness where we realize that we are all connected—we understand and live in oneness.
Source: Jelaila Starr

DIMENSION- A dimension is a state of consciousness. When you look at what we know about dimensions, what we find is that each is about a unique set of beliefs. Our current 3D consciousness was not established until enough people began to believe the same way. And the current 5D consciousness will not be established until enough of the people existing there figure out how to live in unity. So we see that when enough people live a set of beliefs they create a dimension.
Going further, a state of consciousness/dimension vibrates as a certain frequency just as all physical matter has a distinguishing vibration or frequency. In our universe, the closer we get to the integration point of Light and Dark, the faster we vibrate (compassion being the integration point with the fastest vibratory rate). So, if a whole group of people acquire a particular set of beliefs, in this case, the understanding of how to live at the integration point between Light and Dark, then they all begin to vibrate at that particular rate. This vibratory rate is also known as a frequency. Continuing on, this group vibration creates a new consciousness, a new reality, and a new dimension by the individuals in the group expressing themselves emotionally, creatively, etc.
Source: Jelaila Starr

100TH MONKEY SYNDROME- ...The hundredth monkey effect is a supposed phenomenon in which a learned behavior spreads rapidly from one group of monkeys to all related monkeys once a critical number of initiates is reached. By generalization it means the instantaneous spreading of an idea or ability to the remainder of a population once a certain portion of that population has heard of the new idea or learned the new ability by some unknown process currently beyond the scope of science.

Popularization of the claim
The story of the hundredth monkey effect was published in Lyall Watson's foreword to Lawrence Blair's Rhythms of Vision in 1975,[2] and spread with the appearance of Watson's 1979 book Lifetide. The claim is that unidentified scientists were conducting a study of macaque monkeys on the Japanese island of Koshima in 1952.[3] These scientists purportedly observed that some of these monkeys learned to wash sweet potatoes, and gradually this new behavior spread through the younger generation of monkeys—in the usual fashion, through observation and repetition. Watson then claimed that the researchers observed that once a critical number of monkeys was reached—the so-called hundredth monkey—this previously learned behavior instantly spread across the water to monkeys on nearby islands.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth_monkey_effect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_XSwMfOdAc


HOLOGRAPHIC UNIVERSE- I cannot find a concise definition that I feel is written in a way that is understandable for the average reader. If you know of one, send me a PM. Since it's complex, it may not be possible to find a more simplified explanation. I have found the video below to be one of the best and easiest to understand. One could also explore the work of Michael Talbot and his book The Holographic Universe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXBnrLPVTVY

[we-R-one]

So what are star seeds? And why do some of us think we're star seeds? Below are some descriptions that I came across during my own personal awakening period.

DEFINITIONS-
STAR SEEDS/STAR CHILDREN- These are people who have both human and extraterrestrial contributions to their origin. They often have a handful of special abilities that lie within the metaphysical realm. Such abilities are clairvoyance, precognition, telepathy, inter-dimensional awareness, aura viewing, cross species communication, channeling, telekinesis, astral travel, etc. Star Seeds and Star Children are one in the same. Star Seeds are the adult version of Star Children.
Star seeds are here on earth as representatives of their civilizations. Their purpose is to create templates that can be used by the members of their home world to overcome some problem that hinders their spiritual evolution as a soul group. It is also their mission to help humanity with the ascension process and help raise the level of consciousness to the 5th dimension. It is through their crystalline DNA and their hearts, that the Ones from above are able to anchor higher frequencies of Love and Light into the third dimension. They were carefully chosen by the elders of their star nations to come to the Earth plane in order to help usher in the new era of enlightenment. These individuals recognize the Law of One and the importance of spiritual connections to supreme Source. They are here to hold the light for the world.


STAR SEED CHARACTERISTICS:
They have an intense sense of loneliness.
They feel like they don’t belong in their earth family.
They have a fascination with the stars and feel as though their home is out there, but they can’t remember where.
They begin to question the ways of earth at an early age. Many are the black sheep of their family.
They are drawn to metaphysics seeking answers to why they feel so alone and why they don’t seem to fit in on earth.
Many have an adversarial relationship with the parent of the opposite sex.
The majority of starseeds have the facial shape of their mother but the remainder of their physical body is like that of their fathers, or the other way around depending on which parent is the real parent, the starseed parent from off planet. This is done for a reason.
Lower than normal body temperature and inability to handle heat.
The majority of starseeds and walk-ins carry the Crystal Gene for DNA Recoding/Ascension. Once activated, the crystal gene allows for clearer guidance with beings on other dimensions. It acts as a guidance system of sorts, keeping the individual on course in their respective mission. It allows for quicker understanding of the emotional blocks that must be cleared in order to recompile DNA via DNA Recoding.
Many feel drawn to do grid and vortex work.
SOURCE: Jelaila Starr
http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/starseeds.html

42 SIGNS THAT A CHILD MAY BE A STAR KID
These children display skills, such as: telepathy (mental communication), precognition (knowing the future), telekinesis (moving objects by mental concentration), clairvoyance/remote viewing (mentally seeing things distant in space or time), "downloading" information (from off-planet consciousnesses), cross-species communication, penetrating intuitiveness (just "knowing" something without being told), affecting electrical devices (e.g., devices turn on or blow out as the kid goes by), remote-influencing others (telepathically), inter-dimensional viewing, aura-reading (learning about another's health, intentions, etc. by observing the energy field surrounding them), psychic diagnosis ("reading" the person's energy field fluctuations), psychic or bioenergetic healing (transferring helpful energy to a person), invisibility work (making self "invisible" (mentally), teleportation (moving self or object from one locale to another by mental effort), levitation (rising from the ground by mental effort), mental influencing (telepathically causing another to "feel" like doing something the Star Kid wants) , earth energy adjustment work, time dilation or contraction (causing events, trips, etc. to take longer or shorter time than ordinary), pre-sensitivity to earthquakes or human disasters like car crashes, interdimensional awareness, astral (out-of-body) travel, channeling (serving as a conduit for a person not present to speak through), shared consciousness (with a Star Visitor guide), operating in close mental connection with their Star Visitor guides, and physically summoning and connecting with one's Star-Visitor and other guardians.

These children embody physical changes that even they often recognize, such as: robust immunity development (most Star Kids have hardly any flus or bad colds), or, some Star Kids go the alternate path. These alternate-path Star Kids are highly sensitive to environmental contaminants, the sensitivity expressed as allergies, and have low digestive tolerance for certain substances (for instance, cannot tolerate dairy products, are mildly allergic to even whole-wheat products, and find meat-eating repulsive) , and develop disorders (labeled as "Asperger's", ot "Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity") which suggest an incompatibility between their neurological wiring and the nervous system of regular Humans. And these Star Kids also often have lower basal temperature (for example, instead of 98.6 degrees F, a body temperature of 96.8 F, thus meaning that the body is consumed less rapidly by metabolic forces.)

These kids are also notable for their knowing gaze, mature outlook, and appealing dynamic appearance (Star Kids), which most often turns out later in life as looking younger than one’s years (as adult Star Seeds).

They most often are imbued with a missionary zeal to make people wake up to their highest and best potential. These Star Kids also want to change the world for the better, be it by working for peace, by spreading compassion and kind deeds, by working to heal the Earth’s pollution injuries, or telling people about a larger family we have out among the stars.”

http://www.drboylan.com/strkidsigns.html

SOURCE: Dr. Boylan
www.drybolan.com

[we-R-one]

Ok, so now you're getting an idea of specific traits that Star Seeds may exhibit. I think it's very important to note why I'm going through great pains to lay this out.....I did not read about Star Seeds and then decide I wanted to become one...this is anything but fantasy. What caught my attention when I first realized my Star Seed identity was the people who were studying my kind were describing in great detail, characteristics, emotions, and situations I have found myself to be in.......I had all ready experienced what they were saying. So if this is all make believe than you tell me, how could they have known so much in such detail when I have never discussed any of this information on a grand scale to anyone prior to my awakening?

Here's a couple more examples that came to mind that might help prove my case:

While I was exploring Dr. Boylan's book, "Star Kids: The Emerging Cosmic Generation", I came across a very telling quote which read:

"Many among those Star Seeds and Star Kids are all ready quite aware that the time is approaching when the official Government will no longer be their friend. And that it is not operating in a way that is legitimate and just. It is in my view that it is a no-brainer that Star Seeds and Star Kids will be among those leading many citizens who will see through that rottenness; and who will choose to disempowered the government machine, and set up alternative communities based on common values, goals, and governance by the mutual consent of those governed.

Is the above advocating the violent overthrow of the government? No, it is not. Star Seeds and Star Kids have morally superior ways to change things that need changing. And as the situation calls for it, Star Seed Leaders will come to the forefront to show a better way to proceed."

This was exactly what I had been doing! Like I mentioned before, I'm the founder of two major patriot groups within my state. One of the efforts I was attempting to implement in one of the groups was the establishment of self-reliant communities within our counties. Unfortunately, because complacency was at an all time high rate, I was not able to get the idea off the ground, though I do have a template somewhat put together and ready to go with the intention of replicating the process across the state. Additionally, the premise behind the other group I founded, was to help established a new process for electing congressmen. I'm responsible for helping create and establish the GOOOH chapter within my state. See www.goooh.com.

A second clue came to me when I was reading an article by Jelaila Star titled,
"The 3D Anchor Role." Read here:

http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/awakening_challenges_part3.html

This was an identical situation I found myself to be in......so, a logical person after reading all of the above information and connecting the dots, begins to come to the conclusion that there are some accuracies to what these people are saying and yes, it begins to get your full attention. I believe Star Seeds are key to the transition of a 5D reality and a major part not only of this transformation but a representation of the evolution process that has been taking place on this planet and beyond once you understand the big picture.

The foundation for Star Seeds' existence has now been laid. I can only share my story as an example as I cannot speak for others; but it's very clear to me that I am not alone. If one needs more affirmation of our existence I would suggest reading the work of Scott Madelker Ph.D. He has interviewed 1000's of us and you can read the results of his work in the two books he has authored:
From Elsewhere: Being E.T. in America and Universal Vision: Soul Evolution and the Cosmic Plan.
SOURCE: http://www.scottmandelker.com/

WHAT'S NEXT?

The direction I'm heading in will now focus on Peace of Mind asking:

"What are your plans to assist in the needed changes in this world? How do you (or other star seeds) plan to raise the vibrations/ global consciousness?"

Here's where this Star Seed's full attention will lie, as the "The Solution" is in full swing and has been for many years.....and now that I am fairly awake I can better assist to ensure that the foundation continues to be laid so that others may too walk the path over the bridge in hopes of helping usher in the coming Golden Age of a more heart-centered civilization.

I thank the viewers and fellow forum members for their patience in waiting for my responses as this will be easier to read and follow if they're aren't a bunch of posts in between all the pertinent information. It may be a few days before I submit "the solution", as it still has to be put together, so this would be a good time to open up for discussion if anyone has questions or comments about what I've posted so far. I'm not going to claim to have all the answers- and I'm very open-minded if someone's viewpoint can be proven with equal validity as the whole point is to get all of us closer to the truth.

[Olam]

L iving
O ne
V ibrational
E nergy

F reedom
E nlightenment
A scension
R ethinking from Innerself

Yes The New Paradigm Is Beginning. And The Old Paradigm is coming to an end.

I enjoyed this inspiring video. Much Wanishi

Peace. Love. One.

W.f.

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_bucket/file_zps6b78a574.jpg

[Jake]

Here is a pic of one of my little Cherokee Princesses!!!

She is not from around here either...

Olivia Love, 13
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=407875365939008&set=a.103813559678525.5682.100001496445491&type=1&theater

[RunningDeer]

COMMENTS: Thank you, we-R-one, again! In the beginning of vid of Greg Braden's, "Holographic Universe" is a good review of your definition on the 100th Monkey.

QUOTE: "The majority of starseeds have the facial shape of their mother but the remainder of their physical body is like that of their fathers, or the other way around depending on which parent is the real parent, the starseed parent from off planet. This is done for a reason."

TWO PART QUESTION: Please if you don’t know it’s okay. Your devotion to inform is commendable. I’ve never seen anything explained like the above quote.

My guess-mation is that you will recall your StarSeed family through instant recognition when the time comes to meet them?

Does this mean that one of your physical parents has also come from your Star Planet to assist along with you, the Star Child/Starseed? If so, then it’s not a Soul from their home planet that enters the physical body, but a genetic physical form which includes the Soul of Starseed?

Hope this makes sense.

Thanks in advance and Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[RunningDeer]

Here is a pic of one of my little Cherokee Princesses!!!

She is not from around here either...

Olivia Love, 13
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=407875365939008&set=a.103813559678525.5682.100001496445491&type=1&theater

Wow, Olivia Love Pequeen is stunning. Beautiful eyes!

[Kiforall]

Thank you for doing the work to find this video, lets hope it brings more of us together.
Love to all,
Zoe

[we-R-one]

QUOTE: "The majority of starseeds have the facial shape of their mother but the remainder of their physical body is like that of their fathers, or the other way around depending on which parent is the real parent, the starseed parent from off planet. This is done for a reason."

TWO PART QUESTION: Please if you don’t know it’s okay. Your devotion to inform is commendable. I’ve never seen anything explained like the above quote.

My guess-mation is that you will recall your StarSeed family through instant recognition when the time comes to meet them?
That is my hope, but most likely not attainable unless the veil is lifted, or I go off planet.

I only have one experience that I can think of to share that I can at least remember, which could be related to my family. I have often sat outside at night gazing at the stars hoping to see something of interest. It was nothing for me to sit there for many hours. One night about 1:30 in the morning a flash was spotted in the northern sky. The first message that came to my subconscious from that flash was "hello". A few moments a second flash came and the message was, "now go to bed". This is what I telepathically picked up. The feeling from within was that it was my father communicating....the jest of the message was....ok, you finally got to see something in the sky and now that you've seen something, it's time for bed!There was a tone of sterness yet affection at the same time in the message. Of course to this day I'm still questioning myself...is my imagination playing tricks on me? The next morning after this happened I did a little research on flashes in the sky and only one mention of a particular type of satellite was discovered. It said that it was very rare to see this satellite as a flash unless the object was being exposed to the setting sun. Since this experience occured between 1:30 and 2am in the morning, the sun had set long before.

Does this mean that one of your physical parents has also come from your Star Planet to assist along with you, the Star Child/Starseed? If so, then it’s not a Soul from their home planet that enters the physical body, but a genetic physical form which includes the Soul of Starseed?
I think everyone's situation will be different. My biological mother is a Star Seed and though I have no relationship with her, I know enough about her to be able to identify Star Seed traits. Because I have her facial features that tells me my father is of off world...if the story that you are referring to is accurate. My understanding is that souls have contracts before they come down here on Earth. I don't know if my biological mother comes from the same place as myself. I do believe there probably are cases where this is occurring, but alas, how do you know if this is true or not?

Your last question is a good one...I had to read that a couple times to understand what your were asking, lol. I don't know the answer, as I have not come across this information myself. The difficulties lie in the fact that a lot of this information comes via channeling. We all know there are many inaccuracies with this type of info. The only way I've been able to determine fact from a "possibility", is by utilizing my own specific situation as a basis. The rest of it, I keep in the back of my head for later use and/or real possibility.

Just to be clear to the reader, this is not about self-promotion as some might think. I have to use my own personal details as an example, so that I can prove to you, the viewer, that hey, there might be something to this as one going through this identification process would have to ask themselves, how could so many characteristics of what's being said about Star Seeds match if none of this is true?


Thanks in advance and Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

Hi WCBD, my answers are in blue, great questions!

[RunningDeer]

Hi we-R-One, the question about genetic vs. energetic came up when a now retired member talked about having blood/DNA from the reptilian race. I may be phrasing this incorrectly. I had asked in a post and by PM but never got an answer. That’s probably why. We are all figuring it out as we go along. I can live with that.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer :wave:

[Peace of Mind]

“STAR SEED CHARACTERISTICS:
They have an intense sense of loneliness.
They feel like they don’t belong in their earth family.
They have a fascination with the stars and feel as though their home is out there, but they can’t remember where.
They begin to question the ways of earth at an early age. Many are the black sheep of their family.
They are drawn to metaphysics seeking answers to why they feel so alone and why they don’t seem to fit in on earth.
Many have an adversarial relationship with the parent of the opposite sex.
The majority of starseeds have the facial shape of their mother but the remainder of their physical body is like that of their fathers, or the other way around depending on which parent is the real parent.”

I’ve read these same descriptions in various books/magazines/websites. I believe everyone that has finally woken up to the obvious corruption in society fits the attributes on this list. Personally, I think they are signs of human evolution, and some of the first steps towards responsiblity, real humanity. The programming of soceity is deep and still is happening to this day. Anytime I see information that suggests humans to be less then what they want to be I sense mis-infomation. There is nothing in life more acurate then person experiences. So when you hear all these reports and not one person supporting these reports can confirm their claims...you/i/we need to take an different appoarch and focus on what can really be proven and benificial. Everything else often proves to be nothing more than distractions. If you be about it...you will not have to face explanation because the truth will always be there for all to see.....

Everything else you’ve written in your other posts I already know about and can agree with much of it. Perhaps everyone here is a Starseed. Unfortunately, there still isn’t any evidence or real description of these star seeds and their real homes...all I’m reading is just someone/s personal description/label giving to the awakening masses. I’m wondering just who is the first person to discover and spread this info. I hear/read people saying they want to go home because they feel like this place isn’t their original home. Honestly, I just think they wise up about the current state of the world and NOW know this is not the way we were meant to live...therefore feeling a disconnect to the organize slavery we all are supporting.

I remember times as a child I would be in my room crying for no clear reason; I kept telling to my parents that I didn’t belong here. As time passed, I figured this “away from home” feeling was heaven...not some star cluster. Then I came to realizing .... I knew the way we all went about our daily lives was wrong and irresponsible, my tears were basically the feelings of hopelessness, I felt there was little I could do to change the world to be a better place for all, I was young but still knew better, in some cases.

Today I just do what I can do and never look for excuses to why I haven’t done so earlier. As long as I’m still here I know it's for a reason, I will not waste a moment when there is clearly so much we all have to do. We all know what’s wrong in society but many of us ignore them because we are so busy chasing our tales. Now I could be wrong and/or I could be right, but how do I/we know for sure... and most of all “how/why does it really matter?"

Below are a few links pertaining to one of your sources. While reading them... I think you’re realize why I stated “define in your own words”. Many of today’s alternative media outlets have a daunting task of cleaning up their image, especially if they want to be taking serious. First I will start with Dr. Boylan. If you still can’t understand where I’m going with this... then I’ll provide more links and insight to the dangers of spreading unconfirmed alternative news in a later post. but for now......



I think you’ll find some of his documentations to be a bit more revealing and perhaps misleading. http://www.info-quest.org/documents/nsaufo.html

This link talks about Dr. Boylan being a disinfo agent for TPTB. Your source Dr. Boylan Seems to be on the list of questionable people. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/21981

Here’s a Dowse on Dr. R. Boylan's Reported Star Visitors Rescue Mission, you might find this interesting as well…
http://educate-yourself.org/pnl/boylanstarvisitorsreportdowse25may07.shtml

On Boylan’s website, he claims many of the people in the alternative media are in cahoots with TBTB, Even some people you may follow... including favorites like Cannon, Collier, Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy. So, it’s in my opinion that you are picking and choosing what feels right to you but didn’t realize the connections (and disconnects) he has with those in the same field.

http://www.drboylan.com/goodbadugly.html

Inserts:
- Dolores Cannon: a hypnotist and spreader of distracting and distorted disinformation about Star Visitors designed to misdirect and confuse. Cannon is cloaked by the Cabal with a false "Positive" Energy Signature Field to make it more difficult to detect her role as a Cabal mole in UFO/New Age circles.
- Alex Collier, spreads fantasy star-being “channelings”, other disinformation
- Jordan Maxwell: claims falsely to have had a UFO encounter at Area 51, and in Southern California participated in a hoaxed "UFO" sighting involving a pre-arranged Cabal antigravity device which he "spotted" and was videotaped. A blathering-idiot lecturer who includes UFOs in his rants about conspiracies.
- Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy deserve to be on the Bad Guys/Gals list because 90% of whom they present are disinformation operatives, and Ryan and Cassidy are working to make their Project Camelot website a major dispensary of disinformation.
- David Icke, former newscaster now disinformation lecturer, writer of wacky conspiracy stories about the Star Visitors

"Here's where this Star Seed's full attention will lie, as the "The Solution" is in full swing and has been for many years.....and now that I am fairly awake I can better assist to ensure that the foundation continues to be laid so that others may too walk the path over the bridge in hopes of helping usher in the coming Golden Age of a more heart-centered civilization."

That’s odd because I see the world heading into more wars, poverty is steadily on the rise, and suffering continues more today than yesterday. I know everyone here knows this because much of the topics here prove that. Why is this? IMHO, I think the only way we make things better is to continue to wake people up to the injustices in the world and assist them in empowering themselves instead of confusing them more with material that can’t really be validated. IMHO, your description of star seeds is just humans waking up to their true self, the self that realizes he/she is just as important as the next, has talents they were born with to help prosper society and self instead of being conditioned to be nothing more than a supporter of our flawed systems (Doctors, Lawyers, Celebrities, law enforcement, financing, etc). If we all catered to our talents and became responsible for each other life would be glorious and humanity will be much more advanced...as many people would not be stuck in dead end jobs and/or performing jobs they really don’t want to do but do it only because they have to. If we never had set standards and blindly supported them...we wouldn’t be in the situation. People are starting not to want to be here anymore because they are seeing the nonsense we uphold daily. Before this awakening we were all going along with the plan, more selfish, greedier, more about individuality...which ultimately leads to misery because the Human being is instinctively a social and compassionate being by nature.
SO, as I’ve asked earlier...”where do you see this world a year from now”? Can you provide me some detail to the home/planet/nebula/dimension/ you think you are from, what does it look like? This answer can give me further insight. I want to see if your original world has any of the flawed physics and misleading scientific theories we were taught to describe the cosmos.
Thanks for your patience and seemingly sincere posts. Clarity and broadening perceptions of reality is always good.

PS: just to clarify... your text is in bold and underlined.

Peace

[we-R-one]

Hi Peace,

I'm going to break up your questions into two parts since there's much to address. My answers are in bold.



“STAR SEED CHARACTERISTICS:
They have an intense sense of loneliness.
They feel like they don’t belong in their earth family.
They have a fascination with the stars and feel as though their home is out there, but they can’t remember where.
They begin to question the ways of earth at an early age. Many are the black sheep of their family.
They are drawn to metaphysics seeking answers to why they feel so alone and why they don’t seem to fit in on earth.
Many have an adversarial relationship with the parent of the opposite sex.
The majority of starseeds have the facial shape of their mother but the remainder of their physical body is like that of their fathers, or the other way around depending on which parent is the real parent.”

I’ve read these same descriptions in various books/magazines/websites. I believe everyone that has finally woken up to the obvious corruption in society fits the attributes on this list. Personally, I think they are signs of human evolution, and some of the first steps towards responsiblity, real humanity. The programming of soceity is deep and still is happening to this day. Anytime I see information that suggests humans to be less then what they want to be I sense mis-infomation.

I have to politely disagree with you on some of your points. Star Seed characteristics cannot be found in all people. You might want to go back and read them again. Everyone does not have the facial structure of their mother and the body shape of their father. Everyone does not have an adversarial relationship with the parent of the opposite sex, just to point out a few of the differences. Now you only listed the characteristics above, but I also gave you a slew of additional characteristics in Dr. Boylan's descriptions. I have never met anyone within my circle of friends that have similar traits or can share in some of the experiences I have had. You forgot body some of the characteristics listed such as body temperature of 96.8 degrees which isn't normal, metaphysical abilities, looking younger than one's age to name a few. When you compile all the characteristics together, not just a select few you can most certainly see a difference. I've never met anyone who can shake someone's hand and be able to read their thoughts, I've never met anyone who can read someones energy from a distance and know that they are sick, dying from cancer without ever meeting them. I have never met anyone who has mind controlled their teacher, or telepathically been able to pick up someone's conversation in the car behind them while their driving. These are just a sampling of what I've been able to do.

Since I've run the patriot circles I've had an excellent opportunity to observe thousands of people and I would not put awakened souls in the same basket as a Star Seed, not even close. I'm not sure how you can make that correlation based on the Star Seed characteristics given?


There is nothing in life more accurate then person experiences.
Exactly, and this is why you look within, and it is through my own personal experiences that I'm comfortable in embracing the Star Seed identity. It wouldn't matter what they wanted to call us...it's meant to be used as a frame of reference, not as an ego boost that someone is better than another. There are differences in people; love it or hate which is why names are used to identify these differences, otherwise how would we differentiate? Personally from all I've read and experienced I would considered Star Seeds to be a subculture of the human race.



So when you hear all these reports and not one person supporting these reports can confirm their claims...you/i/we need to take an different appoarch and focus on what can really be proven and benificial. Everything else often proves to be nothing more than distractions. If you be about it...you will not have to face explanation because the truth will always be there for all to see.....

I think I've laid out to you in much detail the very thing you've asked for, so how can you say I can't confirm my claims? Have you read Dr. Mandelker's books and have you studied his research he's done on Star Seeds? I believe there is much confirmation in his work. I'm sure there's additional work/studies out there that have been done, that neither of us have seen, but that does not mean it doesn't exist. Please help me out by answering those questions.

The above list of characteristics I can say yes to every one. The characteristics that Boylan has laid out, I can say yes to many, but not all. And might I add, you are not going to find someone that has all the characteristics as the point is not to produce a super hero. You will find people with variances. I just listed specific characteristics that I have that match to Star Seeds- physical characteristics...how much more proof do you need? LOL

You see, you are giving me the impression that no proof will satisfy you. So I have to ask another question that you never answered - What kind of proof are you looking for? Who do you deem as the official person to tell you what is acceptable and not. Are you still programmed so much that you are waiting for someone to tell you what you should think? And I say that with all do respect as it's an easy trap to fall into considering what most of us have been put through.


Everything else you’ve written in your other posts I already know about and can agree with much of it. Perhaps everyone here is a Starseed. Unfortunately, there still isn’t any evidence or real description of these star seeds and their real homes...all I’m reading is just someone/s personal description/label giving to the awakening masses. I’m wondering just who is the first person to discover and spread this info. I hear/read people saying they want to go home because they feel like this place isn’t their original home. Honestly, I just think they wise up about the current state of the world and NOW know this is not the way we were meant to live...therefore feeling a disconnect to the organize slavery we all are supporting.

No, I think you're either not reading the information improperly or you're misinterpreting. Before this huge awakening occurred, many Star Seeds are known to have commented that they don't feel they're from here. This has been going on for many, many, many years and it's stated as such when you read the material. I don't know where you're getting your information from, but the books I've read are from several years back or earlier, so that does not fit into what you're saying here. I can tell you as a young child I never felt from here and I never felt like I was with my real family and that was at the age of 5, which was way more than four year ago when the big awakening started to take shape. It could be that you're just now paying attention to the information in the past several years to your equating it to be of that time period and not prior.

So,.... since I have listed many sources where I have received a lot of my information, I think it's only fair that you list your sources that are reinforcing what you believe, and I don't consider "rumormills" necessarily a solid source. If you cannot provide the same, than I can only presume what your saying as here-say, because I have nothing to base or even evaluate your source of information.

I am more than happy to answer questions, but I'm going to start asking people more and more that they provide just as much proof to the claims being made that are shaping their beliefs and opinions. I can no longer accept answers such as "I just read it somewhere." Give me the respect of providing the very same proof that you ask and expect of me.

[we-R-one]

Hi we-R-One, the question about genetic vs. energetic came up when a now retired member talked about having blood/DNA from the reptilian race. I may be phrasing this incorrectly. I had asked in a post and by PM but never got an answer. That’s probably why. We are all figuring it out as we go along. I can live with that.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer :wave:

So did he consider himself to be Reptilian because he had the RH negative factor? or was there something else? Your question is not too far fetched from earlier as we know these guys are extremely advanced. The story that comes to mind is the Project Camelot interview Dan Burisch....remember him? He specifically said in his interview that they had transferred the soul of a dying J-Rod boy into him and that was the main reason for his abduction when he was a young boy. He also said, not too long after that abduction, he because quite astute in the fields of science and math, a trait that seemed to come out of no where and a trait that was apparently that of the boy who had died- as Dan Burisch later found out.

[we-R-one]

Below are a few links pertaining to one of your sources. While reading them... I think you’re realize why I stated “define in your own words”. Many of today’s alternative media outlets have a daunting task of cleaning up their image, especially if they want to be taking serious. First I will start with Dr. Boylan. If you still can’t understand where I’m going with this... then I’ll provide more links and insight to the dangers of spreading unconfirmed alternative news in a later post. but for now......

I think you’ll find some of his documentations to be a bit more revealing and perhaps misleading. http://www.info-quest.org/documents/nsaufo.html

This link talks about Dr. Boylan being a disinfo agent for TPTB. Your source Dr. Boylan Seems to be on the list of questionable people. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/21981

Here’s a Dowse on Dr. R. Boylan's Reported Star Visitors Rescue Mission, you might find this interesting as well…
http://educate-yourself.org/pnl/boylanstarvisitorsreportdowse25may07.shtml

On Boylan’s website, he claims many of the people in the alternative media are in cahoots with TBTB, Even some people you may follow... including favorites like Cannon, Collier, Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy. So, it’s in my opinion that you are picking and choosing what feels right to you but didn’t realize the connections (and disconnects) he has with those in the same field.

http://www.drboylan.com/goodbadugly.html

The only information I can verify from Dr. Boylan is his topic on Star Seeds and their characteristics and that is all I have been discussing. I'm able to do this because I can use myself as a physical example, something that is tangible. I have no idea about the rest of what he studies or discusses. So it would be unfair of me to judge him as I have nothing to base on whether what he says is true or not regarding the rest of his work. I am very aware that he is not favored by all.

Additionally the material you gave links to covers "subjective material" I'm surprised that you would consider using that to make your case since you do not seem to believe in "subjective" personal experiences as it does not give you the physical proof your seek. So I have to ask, why is ok. to use it to prove your point/ case? Who is Phillip Ledoux and why is his information credible? Where's his physical proof? What is he basing his decision on?

None of the links you've provided have anything to do with Star Seeds and their charcteristics. Anybody can say anybody is a disinfo agent. What we have been discussing here are Star Seeds and whether they exist or not, not Planet X, etc.

Probably the most solid resource I gave you is Dr. Mandelker, in which I'm assuming you have not read his books. He's credentialed in a 3D sense, meaning he's educated in the field he is studying and writing about. He has specifically studied Star Seeds in great depth, probably more than anyone else from what I can see, though it's possible there are others I haven't come across yet. I recommend you look at his credentials if you haven't all ready. He has put a great amount of time into the varying topics from the alternative community. So when you look at what Boylan, Mandelker and Starr are saying, there is much similarity to what they speak of in regards to Star Seeds. Just because I can't confirm the rest of their information one way or another does not make all their material inaccurate. A lot of what they cover is subjective material so you are not going to see the type of proof you seek. In fact, now that I think about it, the Star Seed information is probably the most provable based on the characteristics. I cannot tell you where we all come from, all I can tell you are the characteristics match.




"Here's where this Star Seed's full attention will lie, as the "The Solution" is in full swing and has been for many years.....and now that I am fairly awake I can better assist to ensure that the foundation continues to be laid so that others may too walk the path over the bridge in hopes of helping usher in the coming Golden Age of a more heart-centered civilization."

That’s odd because I see the world heading into more wars, poverty is steadily on the rise, and suffering continues more today than yesterday. I know everyone here knows this because much of the topics here prove that. Why is this? IMHO, I think the only way we make things better is to continue to wake people up to the injustices in the world and assist them in empowering themselves instead of confusing them more with material that can’t really be validated. IMHO, your description of star seeds is just humans waking up to their true self, the self that realizes he/she is just as important as the next, has talents they were born with to help prosper society and self instead of being conditioned to be nothing more than a supporter of our flawed systems (Doctors, Lawyers, Celebrities, law enforcement, financing, etc). If we all catered to our talents and became responsible for each other life would be glorious and humanity will be much more advanced...as many people would not be stuck in dead end jobs and/or performing jobs they really don’t want to do but do it only because they have to. If we never had set standards and blindly supported them...we wouldn’t be in the situation. People are starting not to want to be here anymore because they are seeing the nonsense we uphold daily. Before this awakening we were all going along with the plan, more selfish, greedier, more about individuality...which ultimately leads to misery because the Human being is instinctively a social and compassionate being by nature.
SO, as I’ve asked earlier...”where do you see this world a year from now”? Can you provide me some detail to the home/planet/nebula/dimension/ you think you are from, what does it look like? This answer can give me further insight. I want to see if your original world has any of the flawed physics and misleading scientific theories we were taught to describe the cosmos.
Thanks for your patience and seemingly sincere posts. Clarity and broadening perceptions of reality is always good.

PS: just to clarify... your text is in bold and underlined.

Peace

The reason you find my remarks above as odd is becausing you're looking at the situation with a 3D perspective and you have to step outside of that to understand...Realities outside of 3D are not necessarily tangible, meaning they exist, but you cannot see them in 3D and therefore they do not follow the laws that govern 3D existence. There's probably a better way of explaining and I'm just not presenting in a manner that resonates with you. How you think controls the reality you're in...so if you think nothing exists because you physically can't see it touch it feel it, etc....and you keep putting those expectation on everything, you will have a hard time stepping out of a 3D reality into another. The suffering is increasing and for a reason...it has to be so in your face in order for people to get it...it's a tool! And that is what people do not understand yet because they're looking at it from a 3D perspective!

Don't worry, I'll explain more in "the solution". Waking people up is only part of the solution, but there is much more work to be done and the more the merrier.

When you say this,
"If we all catered to our talents and became responsible for each other life would be glorious and humanity will be much more advanced",

I have to disagree. This transition is about personal responsibility, not being responsible for eachother. Sure we should be kind to one another, but it's more about being responsible for one's actions, not waiting for someone else to do or think for them. We're not advancing because we're being surpressed, and we're being surpressed because we were lazy and not willing to take personal responsibilty, but instead, left it for someone else to handle.

As far as your last question I all ready answered in my post #58 at the bottom, you probably just missed it. I have no idea where I come from, so I have nothing to offer you as far as information, wish I could...the only inkling I have is that I'm possibly from Sirius, that is where my "subconscious" seems to lead me. So when I say that, I don't have a mental picture as a memory, like what you're accustomed to considering to be a memory, I only have an "emotion" as a memory. All memories do not come as pictures, but you have to research reincarnation to understand more clearly and I'm not going to take it there in depth on this thread. Hope I make sense, it's late so I'm outta here! Will run spell check tomorrow.

[RunningDeer]

Hi we-R-One, the question about genetic vs. energetic came up when a now retired member talked about having blood/DNA from the reptilian race. I may be phrasing this incorrectly. I had asked in a post and by PM but never got an answer. That’s probably why. We are all figuring it out as we go along. I can live with that.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer :wave:

So did he consider himself to be Reptilian because he had the RH negative factor? or was there something else? Your question is not too far fetched from earlier as we know these guys are extremely advanced. The story that comes to mind is the Project Camelot interview Dan Burisch....remember him? He specifically said in his interview that they had transferred the soul of a dying J-Rod boy into him and that was the main reason for his abduction when he was a young boy. He also said, not too long after that abduction, he because quite astute in the fields of science and math, a trait that seemed to come out of no where and a trait that was apparently that of the boy who had died- as Dan Burisch later found out.

Hi we-R-one,

I saw Dan Burisch's interviews. It answered my question somewhat - genetic vs. energetic. The retired member implied she was reptilian and other times told stories of her abductions. The explanation was never complete for me.

Specifically, I'm one of eight kids. I was told (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36759-Are-you-a-Starseed-Wanderer-Indigo-I-Calibrate-your-Real-Planetary-Origin) I am of Andromeda planetary origin, and when I researched the characteristics, it explained some things. (Click here for approximately ten star groups.) (http://www.lightconnection.org/planetaryorigin/andromeda.html)

The question: what makes me an Andromedan and my siblings not? If genetics is the answer and my parents are a genetic soup of starseeds, then I happened to have greater number of Andromedian genes? Which makes me different.

So here's my thinking:

Humans are a genetic mix of star seeds. That's what makes this planet unique and valued in the Universe. The psychology of individuals is based on genetic make-up. So personalities, desires and outlooks differ in the Collective.

All on the planet are Star Seeds and will awaken. There are some that have a greater potential to awaken sooner because of life experience and wisdoms from other Star lives. They are older Souls. The ones who volunteered. Their Souls entered via conception/birth to assist in awakening, and/or job specific to Mother Earth and her children.

In short, all of us are here to remember we are from Star Families, and ARE with purpose. Some volunteers, i.e. Starseeds, Indigos, Crystal, Rainbow...are here to jump-start that recall.

What do you think, we-R-one? I'd add that the souls that come in at conception/birth are not to be confused with walk-ins, nor the entities that take over a body.

Thanks in advance,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[Peace of Mind]

Hi, We-R-One, thanks for the healthy dialogue. Your rcomments are in bold and underlined.

You see, you are giving me the impression that no proof will satisfy you. So I have to ask another question that you never answered - What kind of proof are you looking for? Who do you deem as the official person to tell you what is acceptable and not. Are you still programmed so much that you are waiting for someone to tell you what you should think? And I say that with all do respect as it's an easy trap to fall into considering what most of us have been put through.

I’m looking for your proof, not what you’ve been taught/or read. It’s become clear to me now that what I seek will not be found in this discussion. So I’ll respectfully retract the questions if this is all you have to offer. What’s acceptable (to me) is the deeds performed by these people. A great waste of gifts/talent is not acceptable, imo. I’m not programmed at all, My views are my own, I don’t need books/ authors to manipulate my views of the world. It is why I ask you for your views.... and not what someone else was able to get you to think.





The only information I can verify from Dr. Boylan is his topic on Star Seeds and their characteristics and that is all I have been discussing. I'm able to do this because I can use myself as a physical example, something that is tangible. I have no idea about the rest of what he studies or discusses. So it would be unfair of me to judge him as I have nothing to base on whether what he says is true or not regarding the rest of his work. I am very aware that he is not favored by all.

It is no one’s place to judge anyone but it is all of our place to seek clarity.

Additionally the material you gave links to covers "subjective material" I'm surprised that you would consider using that to make your case since you do not seem to believe in "subjective" personal experiences as it does not give you the physical proof your seek. So I have to ask, why is ok. to use it to prove your point/ case? Who is Phillip Ledoux and why is his information credible? Where's his physical proof? What is he basing his decision on?

I’m not making attempts to prove anything, just pointing out credibility issues in the person you posted.

None of the links you've provided have anything to do with Star Seeds and their charcteristics. Anybody can say anybody is a disinfo agent. What we have been discussing here are Star Seeds and whether they exist or not, not Planet X, etc.

Correct. However, I don’t like to pick and choose what material to use when using someone as a source. If any of his/her material doesn’t fit my beliefs/research... it is in my opinion to look elsewhere for that stability. If I put out a book I will make sure what I put out can be proven and if that book is about the importance of humanity/ life urgencies it would most likely be free. There is always other means to making money, Knowledge and wisdom is supposed to be free and for the most part real knowledge still is, however, people still feel the need to buy lies all the time.

Probably the most solid resource I gave you is Dr. Mandelker, in which I'm assuming you have not read his books. He's credentialed in a 3D sense, meaning he's educated in the field he is studying and writing about. He has specifically studied Star Seeds in great depth, probably more than anyone else from what I can see, though it's possible there are others I haven't come across yet. I recommend you look at his credentials if you haven't all ready. He has put a great amount of time into the varying topics from the alternative community. So when you look at what Boylan, Mandelker and Starr are saying, there is much similarity to what they speak of in regards to Star Seeds. Just because I can't confirm the rest of their information one way or another does not make all their material inaccurate. A lot of what they cover is subjective material so you are not going to see the type of proof you seek. In fact, now that I think about it, the Star Seed information is probably the most provable based on the characteristics. I cannot tell you where we all come from, all I can tell you are the characteristics match.

Have you ever considered that all these people could be in it together and are a part of the Cabal/illuminate/tptb? Seeing how many of them say the same things but oddly cannot prove what they claim, yet ask for a fee. I’m not saying they are wrong or right. I’m saying some people in this world are more aware of the manipulators than others. The only people I’ve seen get offended (or confused) from others requesting certain info/validation are the ones with either something to hide or those that just can’t prove what they believe.

The reason you find my remarks above as odd is becausing you're looking at the situation with a 3D perspective and you have to step outside of that to understand...Realities outside of 3D are not necessarily tangible, meaning they exist, but you cannot see them in 3D and therefore they do not follow the laws that govern 3D existence. There's probably a better way of explaining and I'm just not presenting in a manner that resonates with you. How you think controls the reality you're in...so if you think nothing exists because you physically can't see it touch it feel it, etc....and you keep putting those expectation on everything, you will have a hard time stepping out of a 3D reality into another. The suffering is increasing and for a reason...it has to be so in your face in order for people to get it...it's a tool! And that is what people do not understand yet because they're looking at it from a 3D perspective!

I know I can change my reality by focusing my intentions from within, I know all forms of matter is pure energy/thoughts/frequencies; I know energy can’t be created nor destroyed, but molded. I know what you put out comes back. I know collectively we made everything we see, so knowing this...I’m feeling compelled to repost a section from one of my previous posts: Are you speaking from a 4D/5D perspective? I didn’t realize someone could do this, especially when they still reside in 3D. What’s it like in the realm you’re speaking from? I’m curious because I really don’t follow the unconfirmed teachings of others. Instead, I rather go through life dealing with reality and expand my awareness by handling actual issues. How are you able to leave 3D, and at the same time feel comfortable ignoring the issues that actually exist in 3D? What does it look like from the other dimensions you speak of? We/I speak from a 3D perspective because we ARE STILL IN 3D. So, can you please elaborate by answering these questions? thanks



I have to disagree. This transition is about personal responsibility, not being responsible for eachother. Sure we should be kind to one another, but it's more about being responsible for one's actions, not waiting for someone else to do or think for them. We're not advancing because we're being surpressed, and we're being surpressed because we were lazy and not willing to take personal responsibilty, but instead, left it for someone else to handle.

I agree, but after the self is realized... service to others has to come in to play in order for the species to prosper. You can’t help others if you can’t help yourself first. And you can't achive real happiness if everyone else seems to be suffering.

As far as your last question I all ready answered in my post #58 at the bottom, you probably just missed it. I have no idea where I come from, so I have nothing to offer you as far as information, wish I could...the only inkling I have is that I'm possibly from Sirius, that is where my "subconscious" seems to lead me. So when I say that, I don't have a mental picture as a memory, like what you're accustomed to considering to be a memory, I only have an "emotion" as a memory. All memories do not come as pictures, but you have to research reincarnation to understand more clearly and I'm not going to take it there in depth on this thread. Hope I make sense, it's late so I'm outta here! Will run spell check tomorrow.

Ok, this helped a bit, now we are getting somewhere. Do you believe “Sirius” is what you were told it is? Do you believe the stars are exactly what we were told they are?

Star Seed characteristics cannot be found in all people.

With all due respect. What you have presented is not really proof, its opinions from people making profits from selling books. I was thinking about adding the rest of your post but figured it would be too long to add so I just added the top, and yes I have met a few people with some of these same characteristics (and the others within that post). Some of them have never displayed any of these signs until later in their life…why the delays? I don’t know. But, that fact leads me to believe these are signs of awakenings and nothing more. Perhaps the universe is placing more like minded (or awakened) people in my path, that could be the reason why I see more of these characteristics in people than you have, idk. Whatever the case may be, this is nothing new to me or my observations. You laid out your opinions and the opinions of others describing what you believe to be star seeds. However, you did not provide a source of confirmation… just people selling books. I can’t even see/read anything about the work these Starseeds have done, just speculations that are as genuine as “rumourmill”. If you go into "Barnes and Nobles" book store you will see a whole section for “New Age” material. Much of it is rehashed info and is highly subjective. I’m looking for the FACTS with substance attached to it... not the ones that make you feel like what you’re reading could be real…

The reason I’ve posted those links is to show you the credibility status of those people. Speaking for myself…I just can’t put much stock in anyone who offers a whole lot of information but I only can trust some of it, that’s just not a good practice,imo. In this field, if you have something very important and life altering that needs to be shared… that message will be received better if it came from the heart. I rarely take serious the ones who give out this information for a fee, especially when the information can’t be validated. I’m not into wasting time cross examining everyone’s record/theories/claims, I’m more interested in what these people are going to do and not so much what/who they think they are. Action speaks louder than words.

this is why you look within, and it is through my own personal experiences that I'm comfortable in embracing the Star Seed identity. It wouldn't matter what they wanted to call us...it's meant to be used as a frame of reference, not as an ego boost that someone is better than another. There are differences in people; love it or hate which is why names are used to identify these differences, otherwise how would we differentiate? Personally from all I've read and experienced I would considered Star Seeds to be a subculture of the human race.

yes, I look within everyday a few times a day for many reasons. However, when pondering this particular subject what comes to my mind is exactly what I’ve been posting. So repeating that I should keep looking within is doing nothing for either of us at the moment, what I write is what came from within. So, it is either you or I that isn’t looking deep enough. But, to be truthful... it doesn’t really matter because the answers I seek I know you can answer them, I’m just not sure if you understand what I’m asking, yet.


So,.... since I have listed many sources where I have received a lot of my information, I think it's only fair that you list your sources that are reinforcing what you believe, and I don't consider "rumormills" necessarily a solid source. If you cannot provide the same, than I can only presume what your saying as here-say, because I have nothing to base or even evaluate your source of information.

I read from a lot of different sources and I never follow another man’s/woman’s perspective, but advice and perspective is sometimes considered. I just like to see what and how others think, to see if their thinking is actually their own, or someone else’s. I choose to make my own reality and have been doing a great job with it thus far. Topics like this draw my skepticism because they make bold claims but hardly ever back them up with anything of substance...just extra speculative data.

I am more than happy to answer questions, but I'm going to start asking people more and more that they provide just as much proof to the claims being made that are shaping their beliefs and opinions.

All of your proof is coming from what you read in the books of others. This is really not your proof, but merely your agreement to what‘s read involving the opinions of authors detailing what THEY think some people are. Without these books you probably wouldn’t be posting what you’re posting, as of now it just looks like you are spreading their information for them. If you want to give me something to ponder, give me something that will assist me in considering your perspective…. I would appreciate that you answer the questions I’ve left open for you. *Reposting* where do you see this world a year from now”? Can you provide me some detail to the home/planet/nebula/dimension/ you think you are from, what does it look like? These answers can give me further insight. I want to see if your original world has any of the flawed physics and misleading scientific theories we were taught to describe the cosmos. If these answers cannot be put into your own words then all that you have provided is details from other sources...their accounts.

To summerize, I just think these "StarSeeds" are just humans/people awakening to their godly self. Everyone here has the potential to be what you claim to be. They just need to go through certain trigger stages in life.

I can no longer accept answers such as "I just read it somewhere." Give me the respect of providing the very same proof that you ask and expect of me.

I agree that you should do this. Question everything. We/ humans are in the predicament they are in now because they so readily believe in those they can’t trust. I’m very adamant when it comes to such things; I’m not a person that believes others just because they were blindly placed on pedestals. The truth always wants to be seen, the truth is a part of who we are. When truth has a hard time being revealed it is most likely a fabrication and not the actual truth. This is why I consider many alternative views to be false. Many I believe are carefully crafted disractions to further divide the masses. We almost always have a hard time proven them to be true or false, but we can't deny how distracting they are. In the end, the importance of the matter is actually slim to none.


Peace

[we-R-one]

[Hi we-R-one,

I saw Dan Burisch's interviews. It answered my question somewhat - genetic vs. energetic. The retired member implied she was reptilian and other times told stories of her abductions. The explanation was never complete for me.

Specifically, I'm one of eight kids. I was told (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?36759-Are-you-a-Starseed-Wanderer-Indigo-I-Calibrate-your-Real-Planetary-Origin) I am of Andromeda planetary origin, and when I researched the characteristics, it explained some things. (Click here for approximately ten star groups.) (http://www.lightconnection.org/planetaryorigin/andromeda.html)

Yes, I did see this thread, but I'm glad you posted here. I've always "felt" I could be from Sirius, and when I came across this information, I found the description of someone from Sirius to be very similar to myself, probably in the same way you did as being from Andromedan.

The question: what makes me an Andromedan and my siblings not? If genetics is the answer and my parents are a genetic soup of starseeds, then I happened to have greater number of Andromedian genes? Which makes me different.

How do you know your siblings aren't from Andromedan? Because you're awake and they're not? Just trying to understand....It could be that you are more advanced in your soul evolution. Additionally, I don't think you're siblings here on earth have to necessarily be your true siblings from Andromedan as you have soul contracts that involve others.

So here's my thinking:

Humans are a genetic mix of star seeds. That's what makes this planet unique and valued in the Universe. The psychology of individuals is based on genetic make-up. So personalities, desires and outlooks differ in the Collective.

All on the planet are Star Seeds and will awaken. There are some that have a greater potential to awaken sooner because of life experience and wisdoms from other Star lives. They are older Souls. The ones who volunteered. Their Souls entered via conception/birth to assist in awakening, and/or job specific to Mother Earth and her children.

In short, all of us are here to remember we are from Star Families, and ARE with purpose. Some volunteers, i.e. Starseeds, Indigos, Crystal, Rainbow...are here to jump-start that recall.

What do you think, we-R-one? I'd add that the souls that come in at conception/birth are not to be confused with walk-ins, nor the entities that take over a body.

Thanks in advance,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

Hi WCBD,

I answered a couple of your questions above in blue and then answered/commented on the rest of what you had to say below.

Yes, I agree with a lot of what you're saying. This is similar to what I have begun to understand. Is it true or not?...well of course that's the million dollar question. I've also been told that souls make contracts with one another before they come down here, so you don't necessarily have to be from the same family to have a contract; you could be from the same soul group, but even that I don't believe is a pre-requisite. Of course there's no tangible evidence in a 3D sense that I'm aware of, but for one's who have put a lot of time into these kind of topics such as Dr. Walter Semkiw and Kevin Ryerson, they would have a more expert opinion of this than myself. See their work here (http://www.iisis.net/index.php?page=walter-semkiw-reincarnation-past-lives-past-life-expert) if you haven't all ready.

This talk of soul groups reminds me of someone I met within the patriot movement who I had worked closely with....what's funny is he approached me with his thoughts and what he was feeling, not the other way around, which if you knew me you would have thought it would have been the other way around..... and I confirmed that I had been thinking the same.....we both felt and recognized that we knew eachother from a previous time, as there was a very comfortable energy between us. Now this person is not someone who is completely awaken on the spiritual end. A lot of patriots I find are awakening that something is wrong within the 3D world, but once awakened to that fact, they don't know where to go from there.....so they basically haven't gotten to the next step in regards to the spiritual aspect. I'm merely pointing this out because for this guy to discuss a connection with me is quite interesting as at the time, we were just beginning to work together. When I had my last reading done with Kevin Ryerson, I did inquire about this person and actually found out that yes, I knew him in my lifetime as Marie R. Stuart....his name was Jacque. I could kick myself for not asking if he was from the same soul group, but it was towards the very end of the call and I was trying to cram in as much as I could. My best guess is a "yes" due to our feelings of having a past connection. You see some souls make such an impact on you that you never forget, and I would not be the least surprised if this soul has carried on with me in several lives as the familiarity in his demeanor was immediately recognized and welcomed.

I do think we are all from somewhere else as once you understand consciousness, you realize the possibilities are available to all and not a select few. There are Star Seeds that are more advanced and older souls like what you mentioned. It makes sense to me as we cannot all be at the same level as the "game" wouldn't work based on all that I have come to know. You can tell the difference, well, at least I think I can, between a younger Star Seed and an older one, due to their level of spiritual knowledge, where they're at in their growth and the activities they involve themselves with. All roles of varying levels are needed, I just see it as an evolution process where some will interpret it that another considers themselves superior over another. I also believe you have advanced souls playing dark roles....because in the game of duality someone has to fill those shoes which is why judgment needs to be curtailed even on the most apparent evil souls because you don't know who's playing what role. Again, if all souls were on the same level you would most likely create a polarized effect and the ability to learn and grown would somewhat be curtailed.

[RunningDeer]

"I just see it as an evolution process where some will interpret it that another considers themselves superior over another.

Hello we-R-one,

I'd say you've confirmed all that I understand the world to be and its perplexity in relationships. Be it through karmic contracts, soul groups, or StarSeeds, etc. In the end, it’s about human beings assisting human beings along the journey.

This sentence jumped out at me: "I just see it as an evolution process where some will interpret it that another considers themselves superior over another."

Yes, other’s blinds spots are obvious to those that see from the greater perspective. I’m still learning patience. Those that push my buttons, also push my growth. But those that push my button that are of the illusion of "greater than"? Well, I just shake my head and sit with a mocha cappuccino.

I find myself embarrassed for them. I want to toss out a life jacket. Though sometimes, I’m relieving my own discomfort. Which prevents the other a chance for real growth. A real ah-ha! moment and the lesson comes full circle.

The Wisdom Way: balance of who, what, when, why and how much to assist.

Thank you for the extensive and informative post.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[we-R-one]

Hi, We-R-One, thanks for the healthy dialogue. Your rcomments are in bold and underlined.

You see, you are giving me the impression that no proof will satisfy you. So I have to ask another question that you never answered - What kind of proof are you looking for? Who do you deem as the official person to tell you what is acceptable and not. Are you still programmed so much that you are waiting for someone to tell you what you should think? And I say that with all do respect as it's an easy trap to fall into considering what most of us have been put through.

I’m looking for your proof, not what you’ve been taught/or read. It’s become clear to me now that what I seek will not be found in this discussion. So I’ll respectfully retract the questions if this is all you have to offer. What’s acceptable (to me) is the deeds performed by these people. A great waste of gifts/talent is not acceptable, imo. I’m not programmed at all, My views are my own, I don’t need books/ authors to manipulate my views of the world. It is why I ask you for your views.... and not what someone else was able to get you to think.

The proof you seek is impossible to demonstrate as it's subjective. Let's not revisit that as I have all ready explained as have others why you cannot always "prove" subjective material. Let me ask this, do you have dreams at night after you fall asleep? Of course you do! Can you prove it me? I can't see your dreams...(well actually, I have been able to pick up on others close to me, lol, but that's another story in itself). The point being, you know dreams are true because you've experienced them yourself as have the collective mass. It's no different for those of us who have metaphysical experiences. We know they exist, but it's difficult to prove to someone who's not around us on a daily basis. Metaphysical deals with the use of energy, which you cannot see, and yet you know energy exists.

What I've been taught and read has given me a vocabulary and frame of reference to verify what I all ready know to be true via my experiences. I use references and vocabulary from others, as there is no point in me re-inventing the wheel. What I have submitted on this thread is what I believe to be true, based on my own personal experiences not a manipulation of what another wants me to think. As I have told you before and maybe you missed this point....I didn't read this stuff and then "become it"......I was all ready living it, and then read about it, hence giving me the verification and frame of reference to what I all ready knew to be true.

So I think this clearly invalidates your assumption that I'm being manipulated by another's work. If something is true, don't you think a lot of us are going to be saying/believing the same thing? LOL Which is why I'm posting sources who are saying the same as myself, they have come to the same conclusion.

The proof is there, whether you choose to believe it or not, is your choice. I share detailed information about myself, so others can observe my experiences and decide for themselves. I consider myself to be in the perfect position....you know why? Because I'm not profiting off of any of this information, this is authentic as you can get with no basis to accuse me of selling out. The only thing I see myself doing in the future is putting a book together, which I have started, sharing my story of what it's like to have a spiritual awakening so that others too, can have that frame of reference to recognize their own. It's a documentation of a movement taking place here during this time period. Where that endeavor takes me is unknown at this point, but the intention is to share with all for educational purposes not necessarily profit. If expenses begin to incur, like anyone, unless I have a sponsor, I will be forced to charge for my time as I'm not independently wealthy and anyone with common sense understands you cannot take on certain tasks without a cost being involved.

Additionally the material you gave links to covers "subjective material" I'm surprised that you would consider using that to make your case since you do not seem to believe in "subjective" personal experiences as it does not give you the physical proof your seek. So I have to ask, why is ok. to use it to prove your point/ case? Who is Phillip Ledoux and why is his information credible? Where's his physical proof? What is he basing his decision on?

I’m not making attempts to prove anything, just pointing out credibility issues in the person you posted.

Ok, I understand where you're coming from, but then you also have to hold yourself accountable in the same fashion. One has to ask themselves what makes your links even credible? How do any of us know these sources are verifiable? Because what you're doing is questioning another's credibility with a source that might have the same credibility issue. So I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but it is something to be noted.


However, I don’t like to pick and choose what material to use when using someone as a source. If any of his/her material doesn’t fit my beliefs/research... it is in my opinion to look elsewhere for that stability. If I put out a book I will make sure what I put out can be proven and if that book is about the importance of humanity/ life urgencies it would most likely be free. There is always other means to making money, Knowledge and wisdom is supposed to be free and for the most part real knowledge still is, however, people still feel the need to buy lies all the time.

Ok, but then you still haven't answered the question, what do you consider to be proof? You cannot retract the question and then state you would only publish a book that can be proven! You have an expectation that people have to show proof and yet you can't tell me what that proof needs to be and in what context! This sounds silly to me....... What one person considers proof you may not....that does not always negate the accuracy of the information. You cannot put that expetation on others and not hold yourself accountable in the same fashion of what you're asking.

Just because you want to do it this way doesn't make it the only way. Do you have any idea what it costs to publish a book? Most people don't have the means to fund such a project. You could do it as an e-book fairly inexpensively, but if the point is to reach the masses, you cannot necessarily take this route. Plus you have to take the reader's expectation into consideration....If you want them to read your work, you have to make it appealing and interesting to the audience, otherwise it won't sell and this can cost money!

Probably the most solid resource I gave you is Dr. Mandelker, in which I'm assuming you have not read his books. He's credentialed in a 3D sense, meaning he's educated in the field he is studying and writing about. He has specifically studied Star Seeds in great depth, probably more than anyone else from what I can see, though it's possible there are others I haven't come across yet. I recommend you look at his credentials if you haven't all ready. He has put a great amount of time into the varying topics from the alternative community. So when you look at what Boylan, Mandelker and Starr are saying, there is much similarity to what they speak of in regards to Star Seeds. Just because I can't confirm the rest of their information one way or another does not make all their material inaccurate. A lot of what they cover is subjective material so you are not going to see the type of proof you seek. In fact, now that I think about it, the Star Seed information is probably the most provable based on the characteristics. I cannot tell you where we all come from, all I can tell you are the characteristics match.

Have you ever considered that all these people could be in it together and are a part of the Cabal/illuminate/tptb? NO! You know why? I'll say it again, BECAUSE I'M LIVING WHAT THEY'RE DESCRIBING. SO A PERSON WITH COMMON SENSE HAS TO ASK THEMSELVES IF WHAT IS BEING DESCRIBED ON SO MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS IS REFLECTING WHAT THEY'RE LIVING, THAN THAT SAYS THERE COULD BE SOME TRUTH TO WHAT'S BEING SAID. Seeing how many of them say the same things but oddly cannot prove what they claim, yet ask for a fee. I’m not saying they are wrong or right. I’m saying some people in this world are more aware of the manipulators than others. The only people I’ve seen get offended (or confused) from others requesting certain info/validation are the ones with either something to hide or those that just can’t prove what they believe. YOU CANNOT KEEP ASKING FOR THIS EXPECTATION IF YOU CANNOT CLARIFY WHAT YOU THINK IS ACCEPTABLE PROOF AND WHO IS TO PROVIDE THIS PROOF!

The reason you find my remarks above as odd is becausing you're looking at the situation with a 3D perspective and you have to step outside of that to understand...Realities outside of 3D are not necessarily tangible, meaning they exist, but you cannot see them in 3D and therefore they do not follow the laws that govern 3D existence. There's probably a better way of explaining and I'm just not presenting in a manner that resonates with you. How you think controls the reality you're in...so if you think nothing exists because you physically can't see it touch it feel it, etc....and you keep putting those expectation on everything, you will have a hard time stepping out of a 3D reality into another. The suffering is increasing and for a reason...it has to be so in your face in order for people to get it...it's a tool! And that is what people do not understand yet because they're looking at it from a 3D perspective!

I know I can change my reality by focusing my intentions from within, I know all forms of matter is pure energy/thoughts/frequencies; I know energy can’t be created nor destroyed, but molded. IF you know this than why are you asking for proof of metaphysical abilities when it is a form of "molding" energy as you have stated????? I know what you put out comes back. I know collectively we made everything we see, so knowing this...I’m feeling compelled to repost a section from one of my previous posts: Are you speaking from a 4D/5D perspective? I didn’t realize someone could do this, especially when they still reside in 3D. What’s it like in the realm you’re speaking from? I’m curious because I really don’t follow the unconfirmed teachings of others. Instead, I rather go through life dealing with reality and expand my awareness by handling actual issues. How are you able to leave 3D, and at the same time feel comfortable ignoring the issues that actually exist in 3D? What does it look like from the other dimensions you speak of? We/I speak from a 3D perspective because we ARE STILL IN 3D. So, can you please elaborate by answering these questions? thanks

I all ready answered this question. I'm not going to repost, please go back and re-read my response, I believe it's in post #58 and I describe it great detail. Take a look at my definition of dimension on the definition post too and there lies your answer. Going from one reality to another is merely going from one set of beliefs to another and that is the context in which I'm using the word dimension for this discussion, because when you know your intentions create your own reality as you posted above, you can easily begin to see how the power of intentions of a collective group can create a reality on a large scale, hense a dimension and the science is there to prove it, which might be an avenue you can explore. I'm not going to list references for you because I'm not going to guess what you deem to be proof. It is something you will have to explore on your own.

I have to disagree. This transition is about personal responsibility, not being responsible for eachother. Sure we should be kind to one another, but it's more about being responsible for one's actions, not waiting for someone else to do or think for them. We're not advancing because we're being surpressed, and we're being surpressed because we were lazy and not willing to take personal responsibilty, but instead, left it for someone else to handle.

I agree, but after the self is realized... service to others has to come in to play in order for the species to prosper. You can’t help others if you can’t help yourself first. And you can't achive real happiness if everyone else seems to be suffering.

It depends on how you define the word and expectations of "prosper". To answer this comment I would refer you back to the definitions page and watch the Holographic Universe video. Then if you don't believe the video, take the time to look into the science of what is being claimed on that video. Because the opposite of what you say is true, based on the principles of a Holographic Universe. You know that your intentions create your own reality right? So if they do...what you put out into the enegry field is going to affect others. So if you achieve happiness that higher frequency that is created is what's put into the energy field which then is reflected back. By focusing on yourself in a positive manner to achieve happiness, you're helping those who suffer. When enough on a mass scale understand this, it is then you will see a reality shift which is what is happening now. This will be further discussed in "the solution".

I'm going to stop here and come back with a separate post as this is getting way too long. Forgive typos and spelling errors, I will come back later and edit




Hi Peace,

My answers are in blue, I hope this works for you... trying to make it easier for the reader to follow.

[we-R-one]

Hi, We-R-One, thanks for the healthy dialogue. Your rcomments are in bold and underlined.

As far as your last question I all ready answered in my post #58 at the bottom, you probably just missed it. I have no idea where I come from, so I have nothing to offer you as far as information, wish I could...the only inkling I have is that I'm possibly from Sirius, that is where my "subconscious" seems to lead me. So when I say that, I don't have a mental picture as a memory, like what you're accustomed to considering to be a memory, I only have an "emotion" as a memory. All memories do not come as pictures, but you have to research reincarnation to understand more clearly and I'm not going to take it there in depth on this thread. Hope I make sense, it's late so I'm outta here!

Ok, this helped a bit, now we are getting somewhere. Do you believe “Sirius” is what you were told it is? Do you believe the stars are exactly what we were told they are?

No one has never told me what Sirius is other than a planet. Not sure if that's what you're asking? No idea about the stars, and I don't make any claims to know.

With all due respect. What you have presented is not really proof, its opinions from people making profits from selling books. I've answered this a 100 times.....what do you not understand? Please reconsider your questions. I'm more than happy to answer whatever I can, but you are spinning circles here asking me the same thing over again. I just answered this question in my previous post to you. Please read that for your answer. MY PHYSICAL EXPERIENCES ARE MY PROOF, PLAIN AND SIMPLE! I was thinking about adding the rest of your post but figured it would be too long to add so I just added the top, and yes I have met a few people with some of these same characteristics (and the others within that post). Some of them have never displayed any of these signs until later in their life…why the delays? I would suspect that everyone is going to evolve differently. We are not all going to have the same abilities and we are not all going to wake up at the same time. I also believe as I've said before, you have souls at different levels which could account for the variances. I don’t know. But, that fact leads me to believe these are signs of awakenings and nothing more. Perhaps the universe is placing more like minded (or awakened) people in my path, that could be the reason why I see more of these characteristics in people than you have, idk. Whatever the case may be, this is nothing new to me or my observations. You laid out your opinions and the opinions of others describing what you believe to be star seeds. However, you did not provide a source of confirmation… I DID PROVIDE A SOURCE OF CONFIRMATION! YOU ARE CHOOSING NOT TO SEE IT. THE SOURCE IS MYSELF! IS THAT NOT THE BEST PLACE FOR THE TRUTH? TO LOOK WITHIN? AGAIN, REPEAT QUESTION THAT HAS ALL READY BEEN ANSWERED........just people selling books. I can’t even see/read anything about the work these Starseeds have done, just speculations that are as genuine as “rumourmill”. If you go into "Barnes and Nobles" book store you will see a whole section for “New Age” material. Much of it is rehashed info and is highly subjective. I’m looking for the FACTS with substance attached to it... not the ones that make you feel like what you’re reading could be real… AGAIN YOUR FRUSTRATION LIES IN THE FACT THAT YOU WON'T IDENTIFY WHAT KIND OF PROOF YOU CONSIDER TO BE ACCEPTABLE. THERE IS PROOF OUT THERE; I HAVE USED MYSELF AS PROOF FOR OTHERS, THERE ARE BOOKS WITH STUDIES SUCH AS THE ONES DONE BY DR. SCOTT MANDELKER THAT CAN BE ACCESSED. UNTIL YOU DEFINE WHAT IS CONSIDERED TO BE PROOF YOU WILL NEVER FIND AN ANSWER THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.

The reason I’ve posted those links is to show you the credibility status of those people. Speaking for myself…I just can’t put much stock in anyone who offers a whole lot of information but I only can trust some of it, that’s just not a good practice,imo. YOU ARE MISSING THE EXPERIENCES I HAVE SHARED THAT MATCH WITH WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. JUST BECAUSE IT HASN'T HAPPEND TO YOU , DOES NOT NEGATE THE INFORMATION. In this field, if you have something very important and life altering that needs to be shared… that message will be received better if it came from the heart. I'VE GIVEN YOU MY INFORMATION FROM THE HEART AND IT IS PAINFULLY OBVIOUS TO ME THAT YOU DO NOT ACCEPT WHAT I HAVE SAID. MY EXPERIENCES ARE FROM THE HEART.

I am more than happy to answer questions, but I'm going to start asking people more and more that they provide just as much proof to the claims being made that are shaping their beliefs and opinions.

All of your proof is coming from what you read in the books of others. A BIG N-O TO THIS COMMENT AS I THINK I'VE COVERED THIS SEVERAL TIMES! This is really not your proof, but merely your agreement to what‘s read involving the opinions of authors detailing what THEY think some people are. Without these books you probably wouldn’t be posting what you’re posting, as of now it just looks like you are spreading their information for them. WHAT YOUR MISSING IS THE BOOKS GAVE ME A VOCABULARY AND FRAME OF REFERENCE TO WHAT I WAS ALL READY EXPERIENCING. GO BACK TO THE STORY OF THE SHAWMAN IN THE HOLOGRAPHIC UNIVERSE VIDEO If you want to give me something to ponder, give me something that will assist me in considering your perspective…. I would appreciate that you answer the questions I’ve left open for you. *Reposting* where do you see this world a year from now”? Can you provide me some detail to the home/planet/nebula/dimension/ you think you are from, what does it look like? These answers can give me further insight. I want to see if your original world has any of the flawed physics and misleading scientific theories we were taught to describe the cosmos. If these answers cannot be put into your own words then all that you have provided is details from other sources...their accounts. Answered this all ready.


Ello! Continuation of questions being answered. As usual I'm posting my answers in BLUE. I'm starting to bold some of my responses not because I'm shouting, but I feel like I'm sounding like "Rain Man" as I'm having to repeat answers over and over again that I've all ready responded to. I thought by bolding the response it might stand out better. I realize we are covering a lot of information and some things can be overlooked. So Peace from this point forward, if you ask me the same thing over, I'm not going to respond.

[RunningDeer]

The sound of one hand clapping.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heAw4z71lvo

[we-R-one]

Thanks Paula! Heck I won't have to put much effort in my book, I can just use what I've typed here, cause I feel like I'm writing a book and I'm sure it looks like I'm writing a book....lol.

[Spellbound]

Pardon me for poking my nose into this thread for a moment. I believe in reincarnation (though admittedly, I don't know much about it but I do believe the soul lives on after death of the physical body such that we are infinite beings). However, it's my understanding that only the physical body has actual DNA...not our souls. Now, I also believe that ET's shaped (or altered) our DNA over the years (possibly several times...and possibly several more times to come). However, I don't see how the human body can have DNA from a past life as the soul and the body are separate. Perhaps I'm missing the point here (and apologies if I am).

Dave - Toronto

[Nanoo Nanoo]

I have a bit of a definition on holographic multiverse from what i have experienced, here.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48110-The-Biggest-Show-On-Earth-WELCOME&p=536552&viewfull=1#post536552

[Peace of Mind]

Fair enough, We-R-One.

The redundancy was to make sure I was reading you correctly, so please accept my gratitude for taking the time to respond to my post, sincerely.

I just wanted to be clear on how you’re leaving 3D/duality. Here’s what I’ve gather thus far. You view a given situation from a certain perspective, so the viewing of “said” situation from another perspective is your definition/belief of being in another/higher dimension, Am I right?

If so, I would like to think this is an example of expanding your consciousness/awareness withing this realm, not actually jumping through dimensions.

Can you describe the physical (not mental, not emotional) differences of these dimensions or is this higher dimension you speak of only a frame of mind/thinking and doesn’t have any real distinguishable differences from the known physicality’s of our 3D world. In short, what does the other dimensions look like? As of now, I’m getting the impression that we have conflicting views/definitions for the word “dimension”.

Also, regarding subjective material... one should always know that their unproven beliefs will be met with skepticism, so prepare accordingly if you feel the need to share something with an audience that hasn't had the same experiences. When you’re in public making claims, the public is going to want to know “how” and “why”. Only the naive/gullible will readily believe without proof, we see this every day. This Is something I want to stop because it has hurt all of us time and time again. If nothing has come out of this discussion, in the least it was a healthy exercise.

“Let me ask this, do you have dreams at night after you fall asleep? Of course you do!”

When I was younger I had plenty of dreams but since learning how to meditate I do not have dreams anymore, The last dream I can remember felt more like a vision (many years ago). I’ve mentioned this several times here in some of the “analyzing dream” topics. Since I meditate a lot my mind/subconscious is basically still during sleep cycles, there’s very little or nothing for me to contemplate due to earlier meditation sessions. If I dream, I have a very hard time remembering any of them.

“If something is true, don't you think a lot of us are going to be saying/believing the same thing? LOL Which is why I'm posting sources who are saying the same as myself, they have come to the same conclusion.”

Correct to a point, even more so if there’s an agenda attach to it. This is not to say you or any of the people you support is doing this, just pointing out how and why they would be saying the same thing. IMO, if something cannot be logically proven, then the potential for falsification and mind control has to be considered. The media is all about the world view, crafting the perception of reality is something the media (mainstream and alternative) is known to do...and almost always without the presence of facts. In most cases, this is done through blatant propaganda laced with emotional triggers to make the consumer/reader feel as if he/she is experiencing something real (even thou they can’t describe what they feel to be real). The Media has many tricks in persuasion, there’s a reason why so many are addicted to the teli and internet.


I still believe you’re describing " human spiritual awakenings", (like many are having). This is not in question; I'm merely looking for your description of the place you think you came from. If you claim to be from somewhere else (star seed) you should be able to describe what this someplace else looks like. I see Humans waking up to their powers, they are realizing they are more powerful than they originally thought, I just want to know why you think these “starseed” characteristics are not the characteristics of regular human evolution. As I said before the feeling of “not being from here” could be a yearning to go back to source, or the realization of how wrong we/humans have been living...therefore giving you the feeling of not belonging here.

“Ok, but then you still haven't answered the question, what do you consider to be proof? You cannot retract the question and then state you would only publish a book that can be proven! You have an expectation that people have to show proof and yet you can't tell me what that proof needs to be and in what context! This sounds silly to me....... What one person considers proof you may not....that does not always negate the accuracy of the information. You cannot put that expetation on others and not hold yourself accountable in the same fashion of what you're asking.”

Describe what your world looks like and not the attributes of an awakening soul? How do you know you came from the stars when you can’t describe how they/it looks? You keep giving me descriptions of what you think a star seed is and not what a star seeds home looks like; describe some of these origins in your own words.

Just because you want to do it this way doesn't make it the only way. Do you have any idea what it costs to publish a book? Most people don't have the means to fund such a project. You could do it as an e-book fairly inexpensively, but if the point is to reach the masses, you cannot necessarily take this route. Plus you have to take the reader's expectation into consideration....If you want them to read your work, you have to make it appealing and interesting to the audience, otherwise it won't sell and this can cost money!

I’m not into making money off of important life changing material such as the stuff discussed here. If you know you can create your own reality why not find other means for making money and just give out the important information for free instead of a fee? What about the many people who may need this important information but cannot afford it? If much of the stuff that is being peddled around in the alternative media is really that important... I don’t think it’s wise to have a price tag attach to it. So, Knowing that much of these alternative views are for sale, it is in my opinion that there is no real importance to them, I don’t see how you can profit for selling urgency....then again much of the claims of urgencies/predictions never happens, so I guess the false impressions were to ramp up sales and not to getting the (supposedly) important message out. This is a dilemma, and a serious problem within the alternative community.


No one has never told me what Sirius is other than a planet. Not sure if that's what you're asking? No idea about the stars, and I don't make any claims to know.

This comment was your closest definition/ answer to my questions. According to popular science “Sirius” is a star/system not a planet. According to “your memories” describe what your real home looks like?


In your opinion (or knowing) Where do you see this 3d world/reality a year from now?

your comments are bolded and underlined, and thanks again for your time and patience.

Peace

[we-R-one]

Pardon me for poking my nose into this thread for a moment. I believe in reincarnation (though admittedly, I don't know much about it but I do believe the soul lives on after death of the physical body such that we are infinite beings). However, it's my understanding that only the physical body has actual DNA...not our souls. Now, I also believe that ET's shaped (or altered) our DNA over the years (possibly several times...and possibly several more times to come). However, I don't see how the human body can have DNA from a past life as the soul and the body are separate. Perhaps I'm missing the point here (and apologies if I am).


Dave - Toronto

Hi Dave,

I pretty much understand it like you, but I have no way of knowing if that is accurate or not. I was a little confused by what WCBD was asking, so it's possible I misunderstood her post. Hopefully she'll come back on and see your comments.

The part that I'm not clear on, which may have caused you some confusion, is that a Star Seeds genetic makeup, might have genes from an off-world parent.

Here's more information from a link I have all ready posted:

"Starseeds commonly have three parents, two Earth parents and one off-world parent. For example there can be an off-world father. In this case the Earth father will be the surrogate. There are also instances when a child has two or more off-world parents, each one contributing DNA to create the starseeded child. These are unique instances and more than I want to cover here.


There is a contract made between the earth parent and the off-world parent, for the earth parent to love and rear the starseed child. Many times the earth parent is a starseed as well.

The starseed child looks more like the surrogate earth parent to ensure that they are accepted by that parent at birth. In the majority of cases the off-world parent is not of human origin as the human species is the least prolific in our universe.

Starseeds are here on earth as representatives of their civilizations. Their purpose is to create templates that can be used by the members of their home world to overcome some problem that hinders their spiritual evolution as a soul group.

I am told that 144,000 civilizations have sent some of their people to earth as starseeds. These civilizations closely watch their beloved children while here on earth. The real parent, the starseed parent, is usually a guide for his child while that child is on earth. It is my understanding that this is why so many starseeds have experienced visitations from an early age. Their family on their home world uses many ways to communicate and maintain the connection and love bond with their family member on earth. This is also why so many civilizations have ships orbiting earth right now. They have family here and therefore have a vested interest in seeing that earth ascends."

SOURCE: Jelaila Starr
http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/starseeds.html

I have never seen additional elaboration on this topic, either on her site or anywhere else. I have no idea if it's true or not. All I can tell you is one of the descriptions of a Star seed is:

The majority of starseeds have the facial shape of their mother but the remainder of their physical body is like that of their fathers, or the other way around depending on which parent is the real parent, the starseed parent from off planet. This is done for a reason.

The reason I pay attention to what she's saying with interest is because she has described myself in great detail down to specific situations I have found myself to be in, which I posted earlier in this thread. So common sense would elude one to the fact that there may be some truth in all this. Hope this helps,

[RunningDeer]

Pardon me for poking my nose into this thread for a moment. I believe in reincarnation (though admittedly, I don't know much about it but I do believe the soul lives on after death of the physical body such that we are infinite beings). However, it's my understanding that only the physical body has actual DNA...not our souls. Now, I also believe that ET's shaped (or altered) our DNA over the years (possibly several times...and possibly several more times to come). However, I don't see how the human body can have DNA from a past life as the soul and the body are separate. Perhaps I'm missing the point here (and apologies if I am).


Dave - Toronto


Hi Dave,

I pretty much understand it like you, but I have no way of knowing if that is accurate or not. I was a little confused by what WCBD was asking, so it's possible I misunderstood her post. Hopefully she'll come back on and see your comments.

Genetics/DNA is form, soul is not. We three agree. Thanks for the input, Dave from Toronto. :wave:


The reason I pay attention to what she's saying with interest is because she has described myself in great detail down to specific situations I have found myself to be in, which I posted earlier in this thread. So common sense would elude one to the fact that there may be some truth in all this. Hope this helps,

I should find another way to say ‘thank you’, we-R-one, because I keep repeating myself. Hiccup. ("What does that even mean?" as she drives off for some Ben & Jerry's ice cream.)

Toodles,
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[Nanoo Nanoo]

Ben and jerrys is evil! Especially the maple tree hugger! Ugh! I still have some stuck to my tummy lol

[Spellbound]

Pardon me for poking my nose into this thread for a moment. I believe in reincarnation (though admittedly, I don't know much about it but I do believe the soul lives on after death of the physical body such that we are infinite beings). However, it's my understanding that only the physical body has actual DNA...not our souls. Now, I also believe that ET's shaped (or altered) our DNA over the years (possibly several times...and possibly several more times to come). However, I don't see how the human body can have DNA from a past life as the soul and the body are separate. Perhaps I'm missing the point here (and apologies if I am).


Dave - Toronto

Hi Dave,

I pretty much understand it like you, but I have no way of knowing if that is accurate or not. I was a little confused by what WCBD was asking, so it's possible I misunderstood her post. Hopefully she'll come back on and see your comments.

The part that I'm not clear on, which may have caused you some confusion, is that a Star Seeds genetic makeup, might have genes from an off-world parent.

Here's more information from a link I have all ready posted:

"Starseeds commonly have three parents, two Earth parents and one off-world parent. For example there can be an off-world father. In this case the Earth father will be the surrogate. There are also instances when a child has two or more off-world parents, each one contributing DNA to create the starseeded child. These are unique instances and more than I want to cover here.


There is a contract made between the earth parent and the off-world parent, for the earth parent to love and rear the starseed child. Many times the earth parent is a starseed as well.

The starseed child looks more like the surrogate earth parent to ensure that they are accepted by that parent at birth. In the majority of cases the off-world parent is not of human origin as the human species is the least prolific in our universe.

Starseeds are here on earth as representatives of their civilizations. Their purpose is to create templates that can be used by the members of their home world to overcome some problem that hinders their spiritual evolution as a soul group.

I am told that 144,000 civilizations have sent some of their people to earth as starseeds. These civilizations closely watch their beloved children while here on earth. The real parent, the starseed parent, is usually a guide for his child while that child is on earth. It is my understanding that this is why so many starseeds have experienced visitations from an early age. Their family on their home world uses many ways to communicate and maintain the connection and love bond with their family member on earth. This is also why so many civilizations have ships orbiting earth right now. They have family here and therefore have a vested interest in seeing that earth ascends."

SOURCE: Jelaila Starr
http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/starseeds.html

I have never seen additional elaboration on this topic, either on her site or anywhere else. I have no idea if it's true or not. All I can tell you is one of the descriptions of a Star seed is:

The majority of starseeds have the facial shape of their mother but the remainder of their physical body is like that of their fathers, or the other way around depending on which parent is the real parent, the starseed parent from off planet. This is done for a reason.

The reason I pay attention to what she's saying with interest is because she has described myself in great detail down to specific situations I have found myself to be in, which I posted earlier in this thread. So common sense would elude one to the fact that there may be some truth in all this. Hope this helps,

Hello again,

Are you referring to someone who is abducted and then is mated with an ET during abduction?? I do believe that to be happening (for quite some time now). That's the only way I can understand a human having alien DNA, starseed, etc.. I do believe there is some sort of hybridization going on (which is only natural when you think about it). Whether it be ET sperm impregnating human eggs...or vice versa....that is the only way I can grasp the concept of a starseed. However, to say that one currently has alien DNA as a result of a past life....I'm sorry, I just don't buy that. Not meaning to offend anyone....I just don't believe a soul can transfer DNA from one physical body (and lifetime) to another. However, as I said, I definitely believe that ET/human hybridization is under way.

Dave - Toronto

[RunningDeer]

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[we-R-one]

Hello again,

Are you referring to someone who is abducted and then is mated with an ET during abduction?? I do believe that to be happening (for quite some time now). That's the only way I can understand a human having alien DNA, starseed, etc.. I do believe there is some sort of hybridization going on (which is only natural when you think about it). Whether it be ET sperm impregnating human eggs...or vice versa....that is the only way I can grasp the concept of a starseed. However, to say that one currently has alien DNA as a result of a past life....I'm sorry, I just don't buy that. Not meaning to offend anyone....I just don't believe a soul can transfer DNA from one physical body (and lifetime) to another. However, as I said, I definitely believe that ET/human hybridization is under way.

Dave - Toronto

I don't think that's necessarily what Jelaila is saying, it seems like she goes beyond that. You might email her and ask for clarification. I can tell you my mother claims she was abducted, but that was after I was born. So if there was any genetic manipulation I have no idea when that would have happend or even how. I always say, "just because I don't know about it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist....I believe just about anything is possible.....She also worked within government programs that had affiliations with alien contact to the best of my knowledge, but again, this was after I was born, and yes she's a Star Seed.

I have no idea whether the above information is correct or not, but you wanna know something weird......my brother decided to play a trick on my mom(biological)...he called her and said in a real stern voice, "this is the commander!" In which she responded, "yes commander" in a feable voice.....He believed, that she really thought he was Ashtar, The Commander contacting her via phone, as she had mentioned having contact with this person in the past! Now it sounds really funny and all, and of course my brother got a big charge out of it, but the fact that she was so serious....raises eyebrows, as if she has had contact with this person before and was not even the least bit surprised that he was contacting her! :eek:

So because I was adopted, I have nothing to go on other than what my brother has told me. Both of us believe our mother knows more and she has remained tight lipped instead of divulging any additional information.

[Hughe]

Memories define who we are. How to identify oneself depends on how to interpret own past memories. After all what we'll carry on is only the memories of this given life. There are four types of starseed on Earth:
Human body with ET soul
Human body with human soul and walk-in ET soul
ET and human hybrid body with ET soul
A Humanoid ET that lives among people.
Also various non-human entities' soul born as humans to do what they plan.

[Wind]

The majority of starseeds have the facial shape of their mother but the remainder of their physical body is like that of their fathers, or the other way around depending on which parent is the real parent, the starseed parent from off planet. This is done for a reason.


Well, at least I can confirm this.

I have recently learned that my mother is my soul guide, but of course I have always "known" that in my heart. She is the only one in my family that I have had a deep soul connection so I suspect that she too might be a starseed.

Usually I don't like labeling things, but this "starseed thing" has given a whole new purpose to my life. It has been over a year since I discovered myself through the Law of One and I've been awake almost for three years now. My current incarnation has had it quite rough, to put it mildly. I have always hard a hard time to understand earth souls due to their aggresive and violent behaviour and in the other hand I have been labeled as a weirdo, but when I think about my mother I think that she has had way more "lessons" in her life. And yet she one the most positive persons out there, so I try not to feel bad about her, but it's hard sometimes.

This is one of the most personal things that I have shared to anyone in a while. I usually like to keep things to myself. What a ride this has been, of course I signed up for a reason to this task...

It's good to know that I'm not alone on this.

[we-R-one]

Usually I don't like labeling things, but this "starseed thing" has given a whole new purpose to my life. It has been over a year since I discovered myself through the Law of One and I've been awake almost for three years now. My current incarnation has had it quite rough, to put it mildly. I have always hard a hard time to understand earth souls due to their aggresive and violent behaviour and in the other hand I have been labeled as a weirdo, but when I think about my mother I think that she has had way more "lessons" in her life. And yet she one the most positive persons out there, so I try not to feel bad about her, but it's hard sometimes.

This is one of the most personal things that I have shared to anyone in a while. I usually like to keep things to myself. What a ride this has been, of course I signed up for a reason to this task...

It's good to know that I'm not alone on this.

It is not uncommon for Star Seeds to have a difficult life. I believe this to be by design for some of us whether it's to learn a lesson, and/or to serve a greater purpose which I will cover more in "the solution" portion I'm putting together. The greater purpose being, those difficult situations are designed to generate "fuel". This gives the Star Seed energy to transmute into higher frequencies of love, forgiveness and compassion. This is what these lessons will generate, which is why such difficult situations cannot always be rationalized; because if you could - you wouldn't have the fuel needed to transmute. I will explain more fully in the next coming week.

Thanks for sharing StarSeed, hopefully my future posts will resonate when you see where I'm going with all this.

[Wind]

The greater purpose being, those difficult situations are designed to generate "fuel". This gives the Star Seed energy to transmute into higher frequencies of love, forgiveness and compassion. This is what these lessons will generate, which is why such difficult situations cannot always be rationalized; because if you could - you wouldn't have the fuel needed to transmute.

I fully agree with this statement. Everything that happens, happens for a reason.

[Chris Gilbert]

A revelation that I'm a Star Seed would certainly be interesting, but unless it helps me with the goals I wish to accomplish on THIS world, it's just a novel distraction...

[TEEDA]

Usually I don't like labeling things, but this "starseed thing" has given a whole new purpose to my life. It has been over a year since I discovered myself through the Law of One and I've been awake almost for three years now. My current incarnation has had it quite rough, to put it mildly. I have always hard a hard time to understand earth souls due to their aggresive and violent behaviour and in the other hand I have been labeled as a weirdo, but when I think about my mother I think that she has had way more "lessons" in her life. And yet she one the most positive persons out there, so I try not to feel bad about her, but it's hard sometimes.


This is the same for me.
My awakening process was kinda of brutal and went really fast. As a child I felt really different. I was observing other children's behavior and was really sensitive to violence and tend to be a loner. I did an average parkour at school which I found very boring. I was born prematured and probably was on the verge of death several times and was kinda subscribed to hospitals because of diceases and illness and had a really tough time following the years of my teenagehood and fighting back against my parents' will to get back my own freedom and liberty which took roughly 12-15 years.


And yes some Star Seeds usually have Soul contracts to have life experienceS which eventually leads to a triggering of the cellular memories and activation at an accelerate time.

Something wierd also that I related in a video was the fact that I felt really disturbed each time I entered a church with my family I had this kind of " something's wrong " atmosphere , my body began vibrating and I always was sweating a lot and didn't like staying there forever.
Also always hated disrespect and injustice.

I had my awakening triggered after I fell really ill two years ago now. I remember when I was at the hospital I was asking the universe to help me regenerate myself and get back quicky to myself. I was questioning my existence, my purpose in this life, why did I need to go through all this and eventually accept everything that was happening to me because I am a fatalist. The following day the doctors announced that I was healed and could go back to a normal life.
Then I met a friend with whom we discussed about usual paranormal, sci-fi and eventually brought back ETs and UFO topics which brought back my interest on that and I began to search UFOs documentaries and articles on the web which lead me to articles about the reptilians, the umits, rediscovering crop circles, mayans, leading to deeper to the GF , greys, zetas, dracos, pleadians, nordics, andromedans, Acturians and brought to articles about spiritual topics , spiritual energies, law of the one, law of attraction, law of synchronicity, crystal and indigo childrens, blue rays, lightworkers ad other matters and subjects about the world we live in and Star Seeds...And through scanning to all those informations in a month or two it just made natural sense to me...I also went through lots of synchronicity events and understood that I was on the path I wanted to find myself on.

back to the Star Seed topic I think some people know it and can feel it deep in themselves. Some have a sublte idea but I guess even not important that it can bring a personal satisfaction to yourself discovering who you really are, and where you come from. I kinda knew that I was one, but needed a confirmation and got it. And all makes sense now. Many existencial questions were answered. And now just focusing on the purpose of why I am here.

Lil of topic but also related to starseed because sometimes it goes along are the indigos and crystal people. We talk sometimes of starseed indigos.

Here some interesting articles and videos

https://www.facebook.com/notes/bhima-giri/are-you-indigo-crystal-child/203681042944
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=364713023606649&set=a.308864829191469.68695.308862545858364&type=1&relevant_count=1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0W8HFDf_hg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxlsRkcmU_8&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORsGRf1iMH8&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNG5dZaqo5s&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMaChqaBbqQ&feature=share

[Ontarioguy]

A time for everything and everything for a reason.......having a revelation that one is indeed a "starseed" would occur when it is MEANT to be revealed to that person....and would also be revealed for a REASON as far as I am concerned. What the individual CHOOSES to do with that revelation is entirely up to them.....some might attempt to simply ignore it....others ( myself included ) , would want to look deeper into it and as to why it has been revealed at this specific time etc... Again it is all a matter of opinion......I hear the words FREE WILL creeping into mind.
Peace toward all :)

Ontarioguy

[we-R-one]

Then I met a friend with whom we discussed about usual paranormal, sci-fi and eventually brought back ETs and UFO topics which brought back my interest on that and I began to search UFOs documentaries and articles on the web which lead me to articles about the reptilians, the umits, rediscovering crop circles, mayans, leading to deeper to the GF , greys, zetas, dracos, pleadians, nordics, andromedans, Acturians and brought to articles about spiritual topics , spiritual energies, law of the one, law of attraction, law of synchronicity, crystal and indigo childrens, blue rays, lightworkers ad other matters and subjects about the world we live in and Star Seeds...And through scanning to all those informations in a month or two it just made natural sense to me...I also went through lots of synchronicity events and understood that I was on the path I wanted to find myself on.

back to the Star Seed topic I think some people know it and can feel it deep in themselves. Some have a sublte idea but I guess even not important that it can bring a personal satisfaction to yourself discovering who you really are, and where you come from. I kinda knew that I was one, but needed a confirmation and got it. And all makes sense now. Many existencial questions were answered. And now just focusing on the purpose of why I am here.

Hi Teeda,

Great to hear your story, thanks for sharing.....always love to hear from fellow star seeds who are coming to similar conclusions as myself. I agree with what you said...after going through all the documentation it does "just make sense" that's exactly how I felt. I believe the "just make sense" part is due to the fact that we're being given a frame of reference that we didn't have before awakening. By remembering who I am, it is my hope that I can help others remember who they are, by sharing this star seed experience.

So again, I will share yet another experience I had within "the solution", to reinforce what I said earlier that there is something to this whole Star Seed concept, as I've all ready "lived" what I'm reading. So my own personal experience is validating that some Star Seeds are really here to help raise the frequencies of love and light on this planet so it can begin to transform into a new reality.

I realize if you're not one, it sounds silly and ridiculous, but trust me, I wouldn't be divulging in such great detail if I didn't think there was significance to the message.

My purpose was discovered in the early 90's though at the time I had no idea to the significance of what I had done until 2010. Now I recognize that discovery as a tool which can be used by others; and the concept makes much more sense now that I have remembered who I am and what my purpose is here during this incarnation. The discovery I made falls along the lines of transmuting energy in order to help ground the higher frequencies of love and light, which is the very purpose many of us Star Seeds are here as the story goes.

My apologies for taking so long to put the solution together so I can post it here....I have limited time and can't participate as often as I'd like.

[we-R-one]

A revelation that I'm a Star Seed would certainly be interesting, but unless it helps me with the goals I wish to accomplish on THIS world, it's just a novel distraction...

Sorry Enishi, but I find this comment disappointing....It says to me most likely you haven't been reading this thread other than maybe a few posts. The point of being a Star Seed is because we are here to accomplish something on "this world" as you put it; and it is through remembering who we are that we begin to remember what those goals are that we came to complete on "this world". For those of us who are Star Seeds, it's anything, but a novel distraction, rather it's part of our whole awakening process of putting the pieces together in order for us to take the next step so that we may fulfill the purpose of why we elected to come to this planet in the first place.

I have to admit I'm equally disappointed that someone would thank your post, especially Limor of all people who I typically have come to know as having deeper insight, other than thanking a comment that only comes across to me as a preconceived thought process that frequently gets tossed around due to the poster's ignorance and lack of taking the time to read and truly understand the context of the material being presented.

[amandapoet]

I have struggled with the so-called labeling of soul types, etc. But I do know that self-awareness is the key to growth. I have tried on a couple of those labels-- currently starseed is the known term, yet I don't feel that is quite accurate and the ET connection to the term I don't think applies to every starseed, such WRO has so already explained. As for myself, my experiences lead me to having origins from a spiritual being--that I'm still trying to figure out.

What I think throws people off from these labels are the potential they can be utilized to create discord if these labels make someone more special than someone not fitting into the label. Again, the power goes into how that label is used. I have felt compelled to really examine myself in every aspect, this is the path I have been led. I use this definition only for my own understanding. And I believe that anyone who truly has been contracted prior to this incarnation on Earth to serve humanity would not see their origins or true nature to be any more special than another. In fact, being someone whose soul is perhaps older and more advanced could easily be seen as an old person, and if we compare the value and love we feel towards the elderly to that we feel to a newborn-- who is considered more special? The new life of course. A younger soul is as precious and even more special than the advanced ones-- because they hold the promise and potential to continue this journey of consciousness we are all on, each soul's journey intertwined and influenced by all the other forms of consciousness occurring on the other dimensions.

I sincerely hope that was somewhat understandable and will clarify more tomorrow if needed..but the world of 3D needed sleep is where I must travel next.

~Just another traveller,
Amanda

[markpierre]

A revelation that I'm a Star Seed would certainly be interesting, but unless it helps me with the goals I wish to accomplish on THIS world, it's just a novel distraction...

Sorry Enishi, but I find this comment disappointing....It says to me most likely you haven't been reading this thread other than maybe a few posts. The point of being a Star Seed is because we are here to accomplish something on "this world" as you put it; and it is through remembering who we are that we begin to remember what those goals are that we came to complete on "this world". For those of us who are Star Seeds, it's anything, but a novel distraction, rather it's part of our whole awakening process of putting the pieces together in order for us to take the next step so that we may fulfill the purpose of why we elected to come to this planet in the first place.

I have to admit I'm equally disappointed that someone would thank your post, especially Limor of all people who I typically have come to know as having deeper insight, other than thanking a comment that only comes across to me as a preconceived thought process that frequently gets tossed around due to the poster's ignorance and lack of taking the time to read and truly understand the context of the material being presented.

Good one. All of that judgement betrays the thread. 'Starseed' as you've stated is a concept. Lets not make it into another identity that'll have to be relinquished.
The more special and justifiable the identity, the harder it is to let go of. That's a waste of time. All of your idols will fall, including your dearest concepts about yourself.
Maybe that''ll be your crowning accomplishment.
No one is from 'here'. No one is without a purpose 'here', and there is no hierarchy in the value of purpose.

If you know who you are, you're on about your business. If you're learning who you are, you're not learning much from books. You learn by paying attention to what you say and do,
and what you see. Most importantly what you see. The world you see isn't filtered through concepts and belief systems. It's the direct reflection pictorially of what you believe.
Ugly sometimes. Terrifying if you'll let yourself be in it, or as if it's happening to you. It is you. We deny it just as thoroughly as we deny ourselves and we deny the present.
We raise a wall of fear and refuse to go near it.
Hopefully we're noticing now that the truth is important. Just about relative to how I've learned how uncompromising truth really is. Funny that.
Everyone in some form or another is learning human adulthood. Then maybe spirit can play in form and not make such an ass of itself fragmenting into lots of contentious separate selves.

So where is that truth beneath the truth beneath the truth of starseeds? That they're different or special? That they're the same. I've never met any living person that doesn't express totality.
That they know who they are and what they're doing, or supposed to be doing is irrelevant. Everyone meets themselves when it's their time, not when they've got it all figured out.
Interestingly when that light comes on, you can't see things that need fixing. They're shadows. They disappear into purpose.
Anyone trying to awaken the dead, good luck to you. Another idea to relinquish.

I'm a starseed according to Ken Carey and all of the other guys who parrot the idea. It serves me not-at-all. The guys who said they sent me here didn't use that term.
I'm not from 'there' either.
I'm a mind. Everyone is just mind. How is mind preoccupied?

[Wind]

We starseeds are not more special than anyone else is. We starseeds are just... Different from the earthsouls. We are older and more experienced, but the majority of this planet's population are earthsouls, but all us come from the same Source.

Many starseeds do not remember their origin, but there is nothing wrong about it. However, usually our soul plan requires us to remember, so that we can use our full potential. We are here to serve and our mission is to raise the vibrations of this planet. We are here to aid in this grand shift process. We are only humans right now, but we are like the grandfathers or grandmothers who have come here to aid the babies and the young ones. Are grandparents better humans than anyone else? No. They might be just more experienced and they have wisdom. They wish to share it with others, because they care. They understand why people are struggling.

Remember, there is only One.

[Ontarioguy]

Thanks "amandapoet" and "StarSeed", WOW ! you both posted Very Great comments! I agree with you both, in that no one human is "above" another due to a certain label etc...and that absolutely, we all have whatever "tasks" we agreed to carry out here on earth prior to coming to earth to, carry out! And many of those tasks very well might be involving 3D and yes are just as important as those that are not 3D. You bet! I find it goes back to my earlier post in that "there is a time for everything " and that includes ones "awakenning" . And just because one is not awakenned yet...does not mean they are less important than another who is "awake". Thanks to you both for your comments!
One thing that is great about Avalon, is that it serves well as a place online, for people ( souls ) to learn about people ( souls). And I think that is a pretty cool thing. It don't matter whether one agrees or disagrees with another soul or a group of other souls....it is still an experience of learning about the different "trains of thought" and belief systems that are floating around out there. It is good and kinda FUN to learn and become aware isn't it?! :)

Peace to all!

Ontarioguy

[TEEDA]

Each individuals has its own unique experience. discovering if you are a Starseed about yourself is probably first " a personnal " experience. Just like the Awakening process.
It serves no real purpose, only yours truly. I guess one of the main question of the original topic was to have an idea and gather of how many Starseeds or people whor o know they are Starseed in this website or on the forum.
Earth is a planetary school. Filled with negativity and duality. Souls ( advanced or young ) from other systems are here to learn and experience human life. Experiencing third dimensity reality and have chosen to come here by their own will. In a state of full amnesia or half amnesia through incarnation and reincarnation until total remembrance and understanding beyond limited human perception. That the human body is just a temporary limited potential 3D Earth vessel and that your infinite interdimensional soul being knows no fear, no death and has all the information needed fromthe Akashic records everybody could potentially access. And after serving your purpose for the collective and planetary ascension " they " said that you can go back home and maybe then have another experience " elsewhere. "


Everyone his own perception, interpretation and reality. No judgement, only discernment.
I never liked to convince anybody about " a truth " , any conspiracy , theories or concept. I am just here to share with an open mind and open arms what informations I gathered that seems correct for me. But never , never want to say " I am the one who is right " and act rude and being arrogant.

Everyone is is own evolution , either spiritual , mental. Everyone its own pace.
Life on Earth is beautiful and rich experience, maybe not easy as it should ve been.
But it will certainly return to its own rightfull state.
We are part of it. One with it.

I m so glad to have integrated this forum and met all of you.
love and light to you all.

[One]

I can highly recommend the book ET101 for those of you who feel like a bit of an outsider on planet Earth. I suppose you could describe it as an instruction manual for starseeds. Truth or fiction it is hilariously funny and my favourite book. It seems you can get it here now http://www.et101.net/ although at one point I think it was printed on the web.

An example quote:

Gentle Reminder

Some of you are probably wondering why such a torturous route was chosen to get to the desired destination. The reason you are wondering this is because you have been on this planet too long and have absorbed some, if not all, of its dysfunctional thinking. Keep in mind that this planet is no model for rational thought, and that what passes for sanity here is sending chills down the spine of the remainder of the universe.

The need to absorb the dysfunctionality of the planet is in order to legitimately disarm its patterns. Any other method would constitute an invasion, and we do not invade. We alter by earning the right to do so. No entity is permitted to enter an alien world and disarm its dysfunctional patterns without having lived them. That is in compliance with Universal Law, which we represent.

Although we have had transmissions from many of you, screaming, “Invade already. Just get me out of here!,” we regretfully remind you that that is not what you signed up for. Getting out of here is not the point. Getting more light into here is. Remember?

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ok, so it's been awhile since I've posted, I want to get back in the swing of the topic again as I have a little time.....I left off here describing why I think Star Seeds exist and I went to great detail using myself as an example to reinforce why I believe that there is something to our existence. Again to quickly recap, I did not read a book and become one, I was all ready living what I was reading. So the books were giving me the vocabulary to reinforce my experiences. Though I spent a huge amount of time covering the topic, I'm not concerned whether someone believes whether I'm a Star Seed or not...... I'm more interested that the reader focus' on the concept of "the solution" I intend to present, and that is why this Star Seed is here. The bonus is, that I think it may prove even further, why I say Star Seeds exist and the very reason I am one.

Back between the years of 92-94(can't remember the exact year), is when my real spiritual awakening occurred though I had no idea of the importance of what I had discovered until about 2010. All too quickly I fell back asleep and wasn't to be awakened again until 2008; and the result of that previous event, which I will describe in "the solution", has allowed me the unique opportunity to share with you a personal tool/concept, you can apply to your own situations. The goal being to offer those who are interested, the opportunity to help assist in the laying down of the foundation of a new reality, which in turn will help shift this dimension out of duality and into a 5D reality. That being a reality, which understands Christ/unity consciousness as one, which in turn supports the evolution of a more heart-centered humanity.

So Peace Of Mind asked me earlier in this thread the following questions:

I don’t really believe there are special beings from (elsewhere) coming here to assist humanity, if so…where are they and how are they helping? I’ve heard stories like raising the planets frequency and such… but how are they doing this? I just see a lot of idle souls?

What are your plans to assist in the needed changes in this world? 3. How do you (or other star seeds) plan to raise the vibrations/global consciousness?

I will answer in the next post, where hopefully I can tie this all together in a concise manner. To reinforce your knowledge I encourage that the reader re-visits my definition post here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49947-Are-You-Starseed-Ancient--Alien---Soul-with-Temporary-Amnesia-Remember-Atlantis&p=558076&viewfull=1#post558076[/url), post #68. If you can grasp these concepts, you will have a better understanding as to why I believe what I believe as these definitions help give the frame of reference for the message I'm trying to convey to the reader.

......posting "the solution" next........

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THE SOLUTION

This is going to be the condensed version. In the near future I'll be putting together a more in depth posting which will be in it's own thread as I want to include other Avalon members experiences to verify that this has been going on for quite some time and that I am not the only one coming to this understanding and conclusion.

So now you have a basic idea of what a holographic universe is right? The concept being that what you put out into that energy field is going to reflect back at you. This becomes more apparent if you look at the current situation of events taking place on this planet. Think about what some of these specific situations are and look for similarities in your own personal lives. I assure you, there will be examples you can match up further verifying the holographic concept. Here's a personal one from me that I'll share......I know a dear soul, who no matter how hard I try, will not accept any form of response from me. It doesn't matter how I say it, when I say it, where I say it, it's not good enough, there is never agreement. When I apply this situation to the universe, I find an equal match to my dilemma. You notice how none of us can agree on anything? It doesn't matter what's being presented someone finds some kind of fault in it and there seems to be no mutual accordance to settle the difference no matter what angle is being taken. Notice that here on Avalon? This is a perfect example of the holographic universe in play. The conflict that I have with the dear soul is a reflection of the greater problem that exists on this planet. You with me?

Let's reinforce the concept of the Holographic Universe even further....or better yet, maybe this enhances it from a complimentary angle. Here's some more science for you. Ever heard of the study of Epigenetics? Scroll down to where it says "A Short Introduction to Epigenetics" Watch the short 6min. video. Now I realize they're talking about cancer, but what I want you to grasp is the concept so that when I demonstrate "the solution" you will know how it applies on a more scientific level...it's utilizing the same thought process.

http://www.qigonginstitute.org/html/epigenetics.php

And what was the last thing Bruce Lipton said in the interview?
"The new science has everything to do with your beliefs."

So taking that knowledge a step further one might ask what can we do to change our reality for the better? What is the solution?

I have become very aware of a quiet movement taking place that many of you might not have recognized as of yet and it’s this very movement I believe, to be the key component to ending our reality as we know it. It’s happening here on Avalon, but unfortunately it’s being overlooked and drowned out by threads that focus on unverifiable information, gloom and doom scenarios making one feel powerless, unfulfilled and longing for some real answers. And though you know the days of “following” are just about over, there unfortunately is a lot of attention being placed on individuals who have attempted to offer information to the masses only to be slaughtered by their own with discussions that go nowhere and solve absolutely nothing, but rather continue to divide and conquer instead of unifying us as one. Have we not learned anything? Does anyone feel like they’re on the hamster wheel to nowhere? We can and will change this reality, but only if we begin to change the way we think!

There are many Avalon members all ready manifesting this solution and posting their experiences, but unfortunately they're being bypassed and overlooked. We are so conditioned that many of us are missing the one key component - The change is YOU, and the science is there to prove this theory. Until humankind understands, we will continue this vicious cycle over and over again. Utilizing the science behind belief, "the solution" is to become more heart-centered by making everyday choices that are heart-based in thinking. The famous eye for an eye concept no longer applies in this changing paradigm. If you want your surroundings to change, change yourself and how you respond. It will not happen overnight and in the manner in which many of us would prefer.

Before you question what I propose, I ask fellow Avalonian's this.....what's it going to hurt to follow what I'm suggesting? The cavalry is you, the messiah is you, and not any of the other named groups offering their messages of how they're going to save us. Systems are not going to save us!!! Show me the science where systems prove to be the answer? Because if they were, why isn't it working and why do we keep doing the same thing over and over again by inventing another system? We are at cross roads here where technology has surpassed spirituality, it is our responsibility to begin changing how we handle situations and focus on elevating our own spirituality by stepping outside status quo and the belief systems that accompany the programs within the matrix of our 3D reality. This is what you do, this is the solution and many, but not enough, are beginning to come to this conclusion.


NEXT- an example of a heart-centered experience and how you can use that concept as a tool to help in the process of ushering in the paradigm of a more peaceful reality.

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CONTINUING......

So going back to the definition of dimension...We know that when enough people live by a certain set of beliefs we create a new dimension. Let's explore the rest of the definition:

"Going further, a state of consciousness/dimension vibrates as a certain frequency just as all physical matter has a distinguishing vibration or frequency. In our universe, the closer we get to the integration point of Light and Dark, the faster we vibrate (compassion being the integration point with the fastest vibratory rate). So, if a whole group of people acquire a particular set of beliefs, in this case, the understanding of how to live at the integration point between Light and Dark, then they all begin to vibrate at that particular rate. This vibratory rate is also known as a frequency. Continuing on, this group vibration creates a new consciousness, a new reality, and a new dimension by the individuals in the group expressing themselves emotionally, creatively, etc. "

This definition is somewhat reinforced by the study of Epigenetics, which I posted on the previous thread. I'm pointing this out, because I want you to understand the science behind what I'm suggesting. Everything around you vibrates at a frequency. We know that emotions of love, compassion and forgiveness vibrate higher than emotions of the lower frequencies such as fear, anger and hate. So if you're putting emotions out into the energy field(which is all around you), that consist of the higher vibratory rate, you're in essence helping change the reality in which you live. When a collective group does this by changing the way they think a new reality can and will be formed.

This is your ticket out of duality. Because we are set up as a Holographic Universe, it takes the efforts of all. A single messiah is not going to be the answer because it does not fit into the science of a Holographic Universe. By being heart-centered in your daily choices through the utilization of love, compassion and forgiveness, you will help generate the frequencies needed to aid in the transformation.

Below is an example I experienced sometime between the years of 92-94. The heart-centered thought process I went through, is what created me to have what's known as a Kundalini. This is yet another sampling of myself having an experience of a Star Seed long before I ever knew who or what I was.......


EXAMPLE OF A HEART-CENTERED THOUGHT PROCESS

As a child and young adult I grew up in a very verbally abusive situation at home. My father, who was a Navy Seal, was brutal. I could never do anything right, I was never good enough, blah, blah, blah, you've all heard this scenario before as it's quite common. Not only is it common to hear stories like this, but to be put in this type of situation is a common experience for Star Seeds. One of the characteristics of a Star Seed according to Jelaila Starr is that we typically have an adversarial relationship with the parent of the opposite sex(another example of how I've all ready lived what I'm reading about). So I was able to check the box off for this particular trait that identifies a star seed. Being put into this situation serves a purpose and that very purpose is why I had the Kundalini.

By the time I had hit my mid-twenties I was a mess. As hard as I tried to reason the unfair treatment I had been subjected to (this is 3D thinking now....always the victim), I could not seem to come to terms with what I could have done to make my parents turn on me in such a bad way throughout my entire time growing up. I ran down the whole list of criterias......I got good grades, I stayed out of trouble, heck I worked three jobs my senior year in high school and I was a Varsity athlete from my freshman year to my senior year. So I couldn't possibly come up with a legitimate reason as to why or what I could have done to create the situation I was in. While in college I finally came to a breaking point. I had to get over this or I was going down hill fast. I finally came to the conclusion that there was no rationalizing the situation no matter how hard I tried. Let me repeat this thought process as it's key....."there was no rationalizing the situation." This was not the point of the whole experience I had just lived my entire life. Because if I could have rationalized it, I probably wouldn't have had the Kundalini! Keep this in mind when you apply the thought process to your own dynamics. I spent years in a vicious circle trying to make sense of the situation so I'm trying to help you avoid the same trap. Be aware that some situations can't be rationalized in the manner you would expect as they're not suppose to be!

So in the next few moments before the Kundalini occurred, this was the thought process:

In one hand I accepted and embraced all the bad from the relationship for what it was and I was grateful. In the other hand, I accepted and embraced all the good from that relationship for what it was and I was grateful. The acceptance of both polarities, positive and negative was the integration point. Integration point being love, forgiveness and compassion. The moment of this integration point was when I had the Kundalini. It felt like an orgasm. I'm sorry there is no other word to describe it, so I have to utilize that one so you understand what it feels like. It's a rush, basically it starts at the base of your spine and then goes right out your crown chakra.

What I had just done was play what's called The Polarity Integration Game. Again yet another example of having the experience and then reading about it later on and making another dot connection to the truth. According to Jelaila Starr, this is the game of the light and dark the game of duality. The opportunity put before me such as being exposed to a negative and painful environment, allowed me to forgive through love and compassion. Had I been able to "rationalize" this situation most likely I would have missed the whole point as I would have used my 3D perspective to reason away the experience as the role of playing the victim would have been much easier and more conducive to the belief system within the matrix.

What I did was "transmute" energy. I believe by transmuting the energy I activated myself to be set up to harbor love and light via the thought process that created the Kundalini which were of love and compassion. Scientifically it is my understanding that love and compassion are the highest frequencies to be experienced on Earth and have the capability of of changing one's DNA structure. Love vibrates at 528Hz frequency. And as many of you know, every molecule, atom, living and non-living thing, etc. all vibrate at different frequencies. We have seen via Dr. Masaru Emoto studies how water crystals change their structure when thoughts of love or higher frequencies are infused or maybe applied is a better word; so we know there is science that backs this concept.

One thing that's important that I might not have made clear in my description above.....what I did was a thought process through my heart not my brain. And I believe it is the very reason why I had the Kundalini. I don't think you necessarily have to have a Kundalini for it to work, you just have to change how you think and you have to think from your heart.

Forgiveness and acceptance is key as those emotions will promote the higher frequencies of love and compassion.

So by sharing this with the viewer I'm giving you a tool that can be used to help transmute the negative energy within your own surroundings....this is emotional clearing and this is how you do it.


NEXT- defining Kundalini

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Just wanted the opportunity to define in more depth as to what I'm referencing when describing what it's like to have a Kundalini experience. As I was exploring a fellow Avalonian's website yesterday, I came across an excellent description of Kundalini that I wanted to share, thank you Christine Breese:

SOURCE: http://www.umsonline.org/kundalini.htm

WHAT IS KUNDALINI ENERGY?

Kundalini energy is a important force that is related to the chakra system and metaphysics itself. This energy force is considered by many to be the blood of the chakras. Awakening it and its powers is something that can bring about great change in a person on the physical, emotional and spiritual levels. This awakening, however, is something that requires, or should require, years of training to achieve.

Kundalini energy is said to reside in the root chakra, which is located at the base of the spine. It is a power force that emits from this area and moves throughout the entire chakra system. In much the same manner as the blood works through the circulatory system, kundalini energy affects the chakras and feeds them.

Every person has kundalini energy present in their bodies at one level or another. This energy flows from the spine up to the top of the head, passing through each chakra on its way. Kundalini energy can awaken the specific energies contained within individual chakras as it passes. When this happens, it can bring about a higher level of awareness, an awakening of abilities and the attainment of enlightenment or divine states of being.

The release of kundalini energy is said to be an experience like none other. When this energy releases from the root chakra, it tends to feel as if waves of heat or pulsations are rising through the body. While this release is sometimes subtle, many do feel extreme sensations as kundalini energy rises toward the top of the head and outward to meld with the universe’s spiritual energy. As kundalini energy is released, the human body undergoes a cleansing.

The release of kundalini energy is often said to essentially be a divine state of consciousness. This state can last for a mere few hours or as long as months. The release of this energy typically occurs when a person is able to unblock multiple chakras simultaneously. As this happens, the cleansing affects the physical body, emotions, mental status and consciousness.

While many people practice casual meditation and study the chakras, it is a rare individual who can actually release kundalini energy In fact, many yogis warn not to attempt to raise or release this energy without a full understanding of it.This understanding comes not necessarily from books, but from years of training on the spiritual and metaphysical level. It is seen as the endgame or goal of a long-standing pursuit of enlightenment.

Gaining a keen insight and understanding of chakra meditation and unblocking the aura of negative energies can assist those on the path to be able to release kundalini energy. When a person is fully successful in this quest, he or she will have achieved a state that few on earth can claim. An individual who completely awakens this energy will have a balance of mental, physical and emotional clarity that few can ever boast. This state is said to be the closest to perfection one can attain on earth.


I intentionally bolded some key points in order to highlight to the reader and Peace of Mind why I think this experience was so significant. You see this happened to me around the age of 25. I have had no formal training before this experience nor have I had any formal training afterwards. I have not study esoteric teachings, I have not studied any formal teachings of Buddism or any other Eastern religions. I don't even know how to properly meditate!

Do you think my thought process was normal for a 25 year old? Do you even think an adult back in 92/94 within the parameters of the 3D matrix would think like this? In 2011 I attended a David Wilcock seminar in which I sat amongst 200+ people; I was one of about 4 who didn't raise their hand when asked who meditated. And I was only person in the room that day who had ever had a Kundalini.

So you ask Peace of Mind, what is the purpose of Star Seeds? How do they intend to raise the vibrations of the planet? By doing our own emotional clearing we help create the pathway so that others may be given a frame of reference to follow. Remember this quote from a description of Star Seeds that I posted earlier?

"It is through their crystalline DNA and their hearts, that the Ones from above are able to anchor higher frequencies of Love and Light into the third dimension."

Or how about this one:

"They most often are imbued with a missionary zeal to make people wake up to their highest and best potential. These Star Kids also want to change the world for the better, be it by working for peace, by spreading compassion and kind deeds, by working to heal the Earth’s pollution injuries, or telling people about a larger family we have out among the stars.”

Once we gain our ground and come full circle, we disseminate that information far and wide, spreading the message of love and light, oh yes, you know, that corny, seemingly silly concept that sounds so cliche. I assure you the message is anything, but cliche; rather it's the very solution you seek, that will help you out of the reality of 3D and into the new paradigm of unity consciousness. The science is there if you choose to verify and explore.

I was told I come from the soul group of Archangel Michael and Raphael. I am a supposed direct descendant of the Jesus & Mary Magdalene bloodline and additionally from the bloodline of one of the Knights Templar. Past lives include the following:

Oracle, Priestess, Clairvoyant,
Three Queens during Renaissance periods,
Queen of Cambodia,
Queen of Eygypt,
and most notably,
Mary Queen of Scots aka Marie R. Stuart

Coincidence?

My birth name is Elizabeth Marie in this sojourn- definition of Elizabeth, god's promise, god is my oath; I'm a Star Seed, and I intend on keeping that oath....and this is what some Star Seeds do.


NEXT: Conclusion

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.....working on conclusion.....

[deridan]

thanx, and encouragements, [checking in to see this tree grow,... both of you, Peace of Mind, ..you guys played the game well, and greater respect for you PoM, may i say from my perspective,.. different captains for different parts of the ship, the imperative of another part of the ship would not and should not necessarily be understood by the other...they are both playing ultimately for precisions in each of there games]
also, for necessary experimental accuracy, one would need a massive experiment now not possible
[if we talk of starseededness, one objective is fulfilled by achieving in this dimension, and another goal is fulfilled by simply being taken up again... template and informational accruements and all]
[the holographic application principle, for it to be a reachable objective now, PoM imperative has the nearest accuracy to goal, though to differentiate and focus on growable strengths wRO imperatives the nearest accuracy...................sorry trying analogy language to try and describe something which can maybe not be described]
.....younger seemingness is advantageous, especially if one has wasted a decade,.. glad to have fathers face. he was the derider. he was also the best spiritual guide in predisposition
----"we've drifted far"....from a michael jackson song, seems appropriate to end now