View Full Version : Amazon Jungle Half Gone
MargueriteBee
19th September 2012, 02:38
Go look at South America on Google Earth. Unfortunately half of the Amazon Jungle is gone. I don't know what to say.
Operator
19th September 2012, 04:01
Go look at South America on Google Earth. Unfortunately half of the Amazon Jungle is gone. I don't know what to say.
Whatever you would say is a reaction ... reaction to a problem. A problem that was created ....
You know where this is heading, right ?
Before we know it our reaction will be used to sell Agenda21. They will tell you that they don't have control
over the Amazon basin but they DO have control over the homeland. We urgently need to give large
portions of land back to nature bla, bla, bla .... you know the drill :rolleyes:
delfine
19th September 2012, 15:20
That´s sad news. I thought they had stopped the deforestation a while ago. :(((
Vitalux
19th September 2012, 15:26
You could look on the bright side.....It is still half full :thumb:
conk
19th September 2012, 17:53
And to think of all those simple, beautiful people who were displaced.......or worse. :(
Flash
19th September 2012, 23:58
No, deforestation is going full fledge. Approved by Brazil government.
conk
20th September 2012, 15:20
Often times the IMF will take vast tracts of land as collateral against huge loans. The IMF knows the country can never repay the loans. They take the land and raze it for the trees or other resources. A slow death for us all.
Carmody
21st September 2012, 14:06
Where I'm from, people think that wildlife is recovering or growing, as the larger forest animals can now be seen quite often, when one is driving/traveling down the long highways, for hundreds of miles at a stretch.
If they looked at Google earth, they would find that the animals are huddling along the last stretches of forested (meaning: Uncleared, not 'deforested') land, which is all around the highways. The rest of the area, for 10-20-30 miles behind the highway, on either side, is nearly all 'clear cut'.
The highway is used as access to get to the forest, and then it was clear cut. With strips left along the highway that are just deep enough...that people can't see it and understand what has gone on.
MargueriteBee
28th November 2012, 23:15
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-20512722#
Amazon deforrestation at record low?
DeDukshyn
29th November 2012, 00:54
Where I'm from, people think that wildlife is recovering or growing, as the larger forest animals can now be seen quite often, when one is driving/traveling down the long highways, for hundreds of miles at a stretch.
If they looked at Google earth, they would find that the animals are huddling along the last stretches of unforested land, which is all around the highways. The rest of the area, for 10-20-30 miles behind the highway, on either side, is nearly all 'clear cut'.
The highway is used as access to get to the forest, and then it was clear cut. With strips left along the highway that are just deep enough...that people can't see it and understand what has gone on.
This is also obvious when looking at Canada on Google earth -- way more clear cuts than you can see from any public vantage point. Sometimes I wonder even how they remove the trees ... The Earth's northern boreal forest is equally important to earth.
Cjay
29th November 2012, 02:45
Back in the 80's people were saying 80% of Australia's forests are gone. I remember then Prime Minister Bob Hawke's promise to plant 1 billion trees. Did it happen? Of course not.
The NWO globalists, Agenda 21, Codex Alimentarius, etc. all give me the creeps!
I have a plan to fix the problem, not just complain about it:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52523-ANNOUNCEMENT-Huge-Scale-Environmental-and-Humanitarian-Projects-to-Repair-The-Earth
If you want to help, get involved - be proactive.
Playdo of Ataraxas
29th November 2012, 03:10
Earth will reclaim her territory. Eventually. All forests are sacred and important, boreal or tropic. The current extent of civilization and its exploitation of nature is temporary, comparatively. I do not like or approve what is going on now, but, eventually, the old growth forests/jungles will come back. This doesn't mean we need to sit back and watch it all get destroyed, but this perspective gives me hope in light of the current destruction. I live in Mississippi, and the Old Growth forests have been gone for a century at the least. Lots of flora and fauna continue to thrive here, but it is not thriving in a pure state. My favorite William Faulkner novel, a compilation of short stories, is "Big Woods," where he chronicles his childhood memories of his experiences in the last, remaining old growth forests of Mississippi in a fictitious format. He points out that the "Big Woods" were diminishing and nearly gone at the turn of the 20th Century.
It's endemic worldwide. But give the earth a few generations of non-invasive living, and she will flourish again.
Cjay
29th November 2012, 03:31
Earth will reclaim her territory. Eventually...
...give the earth a few generations of non-invasive living, and she will flourish again.
Well, yes and no. I'm not about to sit around and do nothing. Humans can make a huge difference in a very short time - far quicker than nature working alone.
I urge you to consider this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52523-ANNOUNCEMENT-Huge-Scale-Environmental-and-Humanitarian-Projects-to-Repair-The-Earth and in particular, the 3rd video in that post
Playdo of Ataraxas
29th November 2012, 04:08
Thank you for the link Cjay and your positivity. I agree with you and being proactive and progressive is the key, and it is time to make a difference. I live in an area where sustainability as a concept is rarely recognized and accepted in the mainstream, but there are initiatives and organizations that are creating awareness and making progress through educating people. It is making a difference though it is a long row to hoe. I am excited to go through all of the videos and resources in your link and to share those. But still, my basic point, is that the regenerative quality of Gaia cannot be totally suppressed, and that she will regrow, and, as to your statement, she will do so even quicker with our proactivity and attention to fulfilling this necessity.
Carmody
29th November 2012, 04:33
The major problem, is that people live and love to be shortsighted, for it puts their desires and pleasures in easy reach, for those pleasures and desires are part and parcel of the lack of depth of vision.
Thus, when confronted with the issues with such thinking and being, truth of things cannot be found.
The situation quickly devolves into a violent and life threatening conflict.
This is not a overarching scenario that just involves deforestation.. it is religion, patriotism, war, countries, regionalism, politics, life styles (work job, home life, etc) and so on.
Expanding the vision in people, opening their vantage points also comes with the exact same irresolutional methodologies on their part. Violence, hatred, closed minds, murder, death, war, and so on. They see nothing but immediate "life" threats.
Some days, sometimes multiple times in one day, I want to give up on the irrational monkey that is in humans. Then someone comes along, and just by being themselves... restores my balance. For a few moments.
This is a hard row to hoe, as Playdo was saying. Woe to the incarnate who tries to help fellow humans open and grow.
RMorgan
29th November 2012, 12:30
Hey folks,
This is one of the reasons I become a vegetarian, about 10 years ago.
70% of deforestation in Brazil is caused either by clearing large spaces to plant soy to feed cattle or by clearing large spaces to raise cattle itself. Meat and soy are one of the biggest Brazilian exports.
If the environmental cost of this livestock system was directly applied into the meat prices, it would cost more than gold.
The rest 30% of the deforestation is caused by illegal wood extraction, which ends up mostly in musical instruments and fancy furniture all over the world; Clandestine gold and diamond mining plays a big role as well...
Unfortunately, livestock farmers are a very strong lobby here. A lot of these folks are also connected to the drug cartel. They are dangerous.
If you want an advise, don´t ever go to the Amazon region by yourselves; The place is worse than those places from Old Western movies. No law up there.
Anyway, folks, things will get much worse. Besides Belo Monte, which I guess you´ve all heard about, they´ll build 30 more huge hydraulic energy plants up there.
Also, recently they´ve found out that Brazil has got the biggest Niobium reserve on the planet as guess where it is? Amazon.
This sucker, Eike Batista, the Brazilian billionaire, one of the richest man in the world, is responsible for the future Amazon destruction; He´ll mine the hell out of the place.
To make things worse, the Brazilian average guy is just as ignorant as the average guy from anywhere else; Most people here have never been to Amazon and couldn´t care less about it.
My only hope is our Military. They´re patriots, really. Since WWII, they have never been sent overseas to kill innocent people, so they´re mostly taking care of important national issues. They love our land, not our government...If things get really bad, we might see a military coup here in Brazil in the near future.
Cheers,
Raf.
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