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mojo
19th September 2012, 17:44
I posted this in an ongoing thread on THEONETRUTH but such a discerning audience such as Avalon deserves only the best...;)

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Kristin
19th September 2012, 18:24
Hello, I'm standing here with Griff, also a pilot, who had fun with me watching this video of a plane coming in for a landing. The clip shows a flashing navigation light, red and green wing tip lights port and starboard, and the landing lights are on. The lights flicker when a cloud is between the plane and the observer.

From the Heart,
Kristin and Griff

mescalitto
19th September 2012, 18:48
A case of wanting it to be ET so much they cease to question i guess. Not once did he say could it be a plane, the first question you would normally ask yourself.

Kristin
19th September 2012, 18:54
Griff has been a pilot for many years, for him it was easy. We both get really excited about new footage too, just like anybody. It's easy to mistake if you do not have the background and training to know what you are looking at. With that in mind, we have seen UFO's both when we were young and then together that were not as easily explained. So the mystery continues, however, not with this particular video. There is no shame in posting it either, we are all here to lend a helping hand at discernment when we can. I take note to the "wink" at the end of Mojo's post, however.

From the Heart,
Kristin

chomo1968
19th September 2012, 21:08
yeah right,what was the ligth at 6.24 of mojos post??some fast moving ligth at the rigth side...that was stange...maybe a shooting star....

The One
19th September 2012, 21:10
It's easy to mistake if you do not have the background and training to know what you are looking at

Well i can assure you that is no plane and i can assure you i have enough background and training in this topic

Once again mojo fantastic and your footage just gets better and better.From the thousand of UFO'S i have viewed yours have to be up there with the best.

Some great footage there bro.Keep it up

Oh and just for the record

A.) There is no sound of an aircraft engine
b.) If you stop frame by frame the video then you can see more and using the HD setting will help.
c.) A plane could not stay aloft at that slow of a speed and length of time.

WhiteFeather
20th September 2012, 01:37
Great Footage Here. Highly Authentic indeed IMO. Question on the craft though.......... Is it ours or from the stars.

ghostrider
20th September 2012, 02:02
looks like the black triangle TR-3 , your tax dollars hard at work against you for you own demise.

RMorgan
20th September 2012, 03:18
Thanks Mojo!

I was missing your great videos, my friend.

For those who donīt know Mojo, heīs been filming UFOs in his land for a long time. Heīs got many very weird videos in his youtube page; check them out.

In this case, I donīt think itīs a plane at all. Thereīs no sound, the light configuration is different and it moves different as well.

Anyway, I have no idea if this is one of those secret human crafts or not.

Thanks again mate!

Cheers,

Raf.

Spartacus
20th September 2012, 06:50
Hello, I'm standing here with Griff, also a pilot, who had fun with me watching this video of a plane coming in for a landing. The clip shows a flashing navigation light, red and green wing tip lights port and starboard, and the landing lights are on. The lights flicker when a cloud is between the plane and the observer.

From the Heart,
Kristin and Griff

Hi Kristin,

I've been an airline pilot for more than 20 years. Here is my analysis:

There is a small red light and a small green light that correspond with port and starboard relative to the craft's direction of travel. But you would only see these at the same time on a convention aircraft if it was flying directly towards you. Since the camera is below and to the side, these cannot be wingtip navigation lights. Also the red and green lights are at the rear of the craft, therefore they cannot be attached to wings. Aircraft tailplanes do not have navigation lights.

There is also a white flashing strobe in the centre of the craft. A normal aircraft has a red flashing strobe on the underside of the fuselage and white strobes located on each wing tip and on the tail.

The other lights at the front of the craft...I have no idea, but they cannot be landing lights of a normal aircraft which are located on the wings. I cannot see any wings on this craft and cabin or flightdeck lights would never appear like this as they would need to be dimmed for a night landing.

What's interesting to me is the appearance of the lights towards the end of the clip as the craft travels away from the camera. I don't know what this craft is, but it's definitely not a conventional aircraft.

Edit in: Ask Griff to read my comments and watch the clip again in HD, full screen and slow motion. Then ask him if he still thinks this is just an aircraft on approach to land.

Great catch Mojo.

Cidersomerset
20th September 2012, 11:08
I am no expert only an observer. Mojo is a expert as you don't spend all that time researching these phenomenon without checking the obvious imo.
Most of us have seen planes flying over at night or seen them land at airports while going on holiday/vacation and I have flown on several nightflights.
I thought I'd have a look to see if I could find some conventional film of night flying planes...judge for yourselfe......They look different to me and a lot noisier...


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Concorde takeoff at night ....Delta winged airliner now retired from service.
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Three C-17 landing at night
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C-5 Galaxy ...Transort plane..
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Kristin
20th September 2012, 14:06
Hello, I'm standing here with Griff, also a pilot, who had fun with me watching this video of a plane coming in for a landing. The clip shows a flashing navigation light, red and green wing tip lights port and starboard, and the landing lights are on. The lights flicker when a cloud is between the plane and the observer.

From the Heart,
Kristin and Griff

Hi Kristin,

I've been an airline pilot for more than 20 years. Here is my analysis:

There is a small red light and a small green light that correspond with port and starboard relative to the craft's direction of travel. But you would only see these at the same time on a convention aircraft if it was flying directly towards you. Since the camera is below and to the side, these cannot be wingtip navigation lights. Also the red and green lights are at the rear of the craft, therefore they cannot be attached to wings. Aircraft tailplanes do not have navigation lights.

There is also a white flashing strobe in the centre of the craft. A normal aircraft has a red flashing strobe on the underside of the fuselage and white strobes located on each wing tip and on the tail.

The other lights at the front of the craft...I have no idea, but they cannot be landing lights of a normal aircraft which are located on the wings. I cannot see any wings on this craft and cabin or flightdeck lights would never appear like this as they would need to be dimmed for a night landing.

What's interesting to me is the appearance of the lights towards the end of the clip as the craft travels away from the camera. I don't know what this craft is, but it's definitely not a conventional aircraft.

Edit in: Ask Griff to read my comments and watch the clip again in HD, full screen and slow motion. Then ask him if he still thinks this is just an aircraft on approach to land.

Great catch Mojo.

Thank for the post! I'll have Griff take another look after work this evening and give his thoughts on your very well written post. This is what Avalon is all about!

From the Heart,
Kristin

The One
20th September 2012, 14:37
Thank for the post! I'll have Griff take another look after work this evening and give his thoughts on your very well written post. This is what Avalon is all about!

From the Heart,
Kristin

Well i for one can make my own mind up.Its not a plane but if you need somebody else to clarify that for you then great.

Kristin
20th September 2012, 14:44
This is the only side view landing that I could find on Utube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJUzjsyMPFw Unfortunately most are from the front or in the cockpit for comparison, but this one isn't too shabby. I'm interested to hear what Griff has to say, I'll ask him to post directly this evening.

From the Heart,
Kristin

Jules
20th September 2012, 14:47
looks like the black triangle TR-3 , your tax dollars hard at work against you for you own demise.

Thank you, ghostrider. This answers some questions that I have had for some time. I believe this is the craft appears to be military technology, years ahead from what we have today. Able to pause in the air for indefinite time, able to maneuver better than any helicopter or airplane. Little of no noise. Also able to take off at undefined speed.

The One
20th September 2012, 16:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfD8aZpGtNc&feature=player_detailpage

Griff
21st September 2012, 00:16
Well, I must pipe in here to defend and amend my original opinion somewhat. i had another long look at the video, and I still think it's an aircraft of some description. I do admit that the way the lights are related to each other is unlike any aircraft configuration I know, but I don't know them all either. The motion of the aircraft and the frequency of the strobe lights are what immediately bring to my mind "conventional" aircraft. This is merely my opinion, and I am just a low time private pilot who doesn't even have a night endorsement, so you may weigh that opinion appropriately. The distance of this video, the lack of a frame of reference, and the clouds or other obstacles that seem to obscure the craft near the end of the video also make it harder for me to judge definitively.

The 2008 Dublin video, however, looks very much like a sighting I had when I was just a wee lad, and cannot forget. That was definitely not a "conventional" aircraft either. Thanks to The One for posting that, I had not seen it before.

As always, IMHO, FWIW, YMMV, etc.

Griff

crosby
21st September 2012, 04:56
thanks mojo, i so appreciate your work. where i am living now, i cannot go out to see the sky at night, bummer, but i so appreciate the fact that you can and that you take the time to shoot your efforts and bring them to us. keep up the great work!
warmest, corson