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Kelly
20th September 2012, 15:04
1200 Year Tibetan Prophecy Confirms 3DD (3 Decades of disinformation)

Almost 1000 years after Shakyumuni Buddha past into parinirvana the great Indian sage Padmasambhava took the vajra teachings to the land of the snows (Tibet). He is seen as the second Buddha to the Tibetans and like the great cosmic avatar Babaji he was not born, but just appeared from the sacred kingdom of Shamballa. The prophecy applies to many of the failed channelings, disinfo campaigns and threads of disunity all across the internet we have seen lately.

"Master Padma said: In the future, when the dark age of degeneration arrives, some people who claim to be practitioners will desire to teach others without having received permission. Without having practiced themselves they will instruct others in meditation. Without being liberated themselves they will pretend to give instructions for liberation. Without being devoid of self-interest they will instruct others to cast away their fetters of attachment and be generous. Without the slightest understanding of the good or evil of their own actions they will spout clairvoyant statements about good or evil fare of others. Having no stability themselves they will claim to be benefiting other beings. There will be many who will pretend, be hypocritical, cheat, and deceive in the name of the Dharma.


"All people of future generations, who wish to practice the Dharma, read this written testament of the mendicant Padmakara and examine yourself! ..."
We have posted this message to show the newer seekers of light the current state amongst the so called awakened community all across the internet. A couple months ago I heard a lightworker with a strong heart say he wanted to end his life if 2012 if it did not pan out as he expected. Every day I think about this kind man’s comments and I hope this message finds his eyes to help him and others understand the process of planetary upliftment better. There are literally volumes and volumes of text on what is going to happen, but 80% of what is being presented is pure disinformation. We are now living in Lao Tzu’s great time of confusion or guru Padma’s age of degeneration. Do you people see how this is also playing out for real in all the forums on the internet? As we approach the ecliptic plane the craziness and desperate messages of galactic salvation will only continue to increase.

Have you ever wondered why so much effort is being made to lead you down a certain galactic belief system? Have you ever wondered why galactic beings that can travel forward and backwards in time can’t get a date straight with a prison planet like ours? Have you ever wondered why a higher world would even allow so much confusion to be transmitted through so many channels and then somehow think that would aid in the upliftment of our planet? Have you ever wondered why your own planet’s spiritual hierarchy has been hijacked and new names of unknown ascended masters are added each month by channelers competing for a spot on the circuit. Have you ever really truly wondered why the spiritual community has been bombarded with 3 Decades of Disinformation (3DD).

Every solar system and galaxy is a precision instruments fine-tuned to encourage evolution and co-creation amongst the prime creation. There are cycles within cycles and the original authors of the Vedas and Kalachakra Tantra were aware of these cycles on earth. This was not off world wisdom and the grandfathers of time that reside below the glaziers of the Himalayas provided us with much of these teachings. The Kalachakra Tantra was later given to the first Kalki King of Shamballa by Buddha Shakyumni. Even the people of Shamballa come to the surface when a Buddha appears to receive the teaching for the next cycle. Buddha did not deliver light beds to the people of Shamballa 2500 years ago and they still had to build their own spiritual foundation through the development of a wisdom mind and practice. He gave them a hidden Kalachakra teachings and this is how Shamballa became a fully enlightened society and developed further. They did not use technology, but light and sound can aid in this, but the practitioner must develop in stages. The Tibetans say Shamballa is where the physical world meets the spiritual one, but they are just in a different Bardo or 5th dimension. Soon your world meet there’s and this is when the warriors of northern Shamballa will appear on the surface to meet and greet with the dark forces.

It was the warriors of Northern Shamballa from inner earth that destroyed those nuclear test missiles in the 70s and 80s and not the GFL. They say Shamballa has a seat at the Commonwealth of Galactic Star nations, but the vemas vehicles used in the Ramayana wars and at the battle of Kurkshetra during the time of Krishna were also in a war with some of the lower fourth dimensional human races who wanted to continue to be our gods from the sky. Maybe these same groups are now claiming to be the GFL, but you will have to draw your own conclusions. Just ask yourself how many times this group has delivered failed promises alone and you will begin to see they could be harvesting your emotions like Galactic parasites. I now personally really doubt any of us will ever see the Sephrim kings, Christ Michael Aton or Lord Surea. The Easter Bunny will return before some of this fantasy happens.

The disinfo reps often like to play down the role of our real avatars because these groups fear the Pataal race. Krishna and 11 other male avatars and 21 female Taras descended on this planet a very long time ago to help us. The milk maidens of Vrindavan were likely all White Taras. The consorts of Padmasambhava were white Taras. The Tara (female Buddha) is the divine feminine aspect and they will play a lead role in the golden age. The Pataal are the founding race in this galaxy and they were living lives in this region of space long before the first Lyran was able to scratch his bum with a stick. They do not bow to some evolving galactic logos or demi god and they are here because we are supposedly an important race for the future of this galaxy and multiverse. Four of the men that came later became Buddha’s during the earlier root races and they returned to the higher realms upon parinirvana. All the rest remained within the incarnation cycle on earth. These beings of light would not give their fellow Terrans 30 years of disinformation. They do not overshadow each other, but can send rays of light to their friends incarnate.

Beware of channelers who claim to talk to Kalki Maitreya, Buddha or other avatars on a weekly basis as it does not work this way. They must incarnate on the surface to be able to teach the dharma and influence the lives are others. They are not above or below their follow Terrans, they are just older souls that have come to serve humanity. Krishna was not the first earth seed to attain enlightenment like the water down freemason texts say. He is the Holy Ghost that can move freely through all the mansion worlds in the multiverse. The Andromedans and other races were also visited by him as well. He can project a planetary portion of himself and teach some group a specific thing, or he can manifest as his full vestiv avatar when needed to remove the dark elements directly from a planet.

All life including the good the bad and the ugly are allowed to participate in the creation. We may have been seeded on this planet, but one thing an advance race cannot even control is the spirits that incarnate into the DNA they seed. They say the grays can capture a soul, but they will never be able to create one. Some of the human races had a real ego problem when the new Terrans creative power far exceeded their own. The ones they call the Annunaki are most likely the same controlling galactics in Greek and Roman mythology, but some say they were Pleadians. I am not talking about a few renegades, but a few have said they were supported by the entire star system. It should not surprise anyone that many galactic humans have issues on all planes. There are a few other groups other than the reptilians we should be asking questions about.

There seems to be more than one group prepared to dump their lower 4d hierarchy structure on us. I personally even have reservations about Sirians now solely based on their inability to select a reliable channeler or replace the batteries in their implants. When a so called 2012 timeline of events is missed at this time in our history serious questions should be asked and expected. Most failed predictions usually seem to involve Ashtar, Sananda, Pleadian channelers, and Sirian Channelers. Alex Collier and the Allies of Humanity warned us about groups like this and does anyone know for sure why these names are attached to a long history of failed promises that never came to fruition? Maybe the Reptilian just seized an opportunity when some of these renegade group’s goals of the Eden fell apart and the rest is our dark history.

The Mayan calendar begins almost 3000 years before the start of the Mayans civilization. It was brought to them by the inner earth people and it is the 5000 year cycle of Krishna. This is why they are finding Hindu deities in sites in South America. Krishna has many names and he was also the first Kalki King (Rudra Chandra) of Shamballa. Many often wonder why the Mayans and Incas turned to sacrifice and it was because the reptilians tried to remove all teachings that liberated humans and enabled them to attain enlightenment. When you are enlightened your creative power increases 100 times and that is the last thing some may want in this galaxy. You people are really that powerful, but it has been suppressed. The tall ones taught your ancestors a path to enlightenment and the reptilians needed to control all beliefs and they eventually gained control on the surface and the giants were no more. It was only a matter of time before they used technology to manipulate the people and that is when the sacrifices started. This is how the real white skinned human gods of the Mayans and Incas were suddenly creepy reptilian looking characters.

They did the same thing with the teaching of Jesus and other religions. The Roman Empire removed much of the real teachings and made it fear based. Now you see it play out in galactic forums with a slightly different theme. The old divide and concur strategy plan is playing out well amongst the light workers, but more each day you are starting to see past this façade. Maybe we really need to unplug from this matrix altogether and walk towards self-reliance and unity. They are still playing all their old tricks and this is why you should wake up before they hold this planet back another cycle. Upliftment is not a slam dunk so we need wake up and ignore this stuff or read it for fun in our star treck jammies. If you are not finding the truth just ignore the lower mind prattle these agents of deception dispense each day. In reality, they will do nothing for you or this planet’s spiritual evolution. For those that mindlessly forward their drivel and messages to forums please understand that when their failed promises once again cause others to feel emotions of hopelessness and despair you play a part in that negative karma it generates and the harvest. In a way you are unknowingly working for the dark forces. Many do this knowingly, but those ones are glib and arrogant so they are easy to spot.

The earth and our entire solar system are now moving into a better place in space to enable a golden age to take root. The flower has not grown yet and you are the fragrance. However, it will not arrive on some galactic ship or be given to you on a golden platter. The date of Dec 21, 2012 is just a date. They say it will take the Kalki Avatar at least 700 years to remove all the negative inertia completely on this planet, so please understand we have many steps to take together as one family before the golden age fully takes hold. It will be created with our thoughts and sweat. The lightworkers are going to be the teachers and builders of the sixth root race and that won’t occur by drinking coffee in front of your computer all day reading page after page of false information on some galactic forum. The books you write and the teaching you will learn are not about us, it is about the new ones coming in. Do not waste your energy trying to teach crusty old parrots something new.

What we do on the other side of the ecliptic will be determined by us, not by some galactic race with issues. It does not matter which galactic paradigm of the month you adopted it will influence where your creative thoughts go. Try directing your creative thoughts towards the golden age you have all hoped for and understand we need to create it ourselves? Visualize the green fields and clean forests. Visualize the clean rivers and stream. Visualize a world were no animals are slaughters and all life is respected. We must not rely on others and this planet must be self-sufficient. A planet forms a symbiotic relationship with all living things. We are part of her and she is part of us. She needs her sentient beings to become fully enlightened to help her go to the next levels. Those beings can be anything from dolphins, sentient jellyfish or human beings planted a long time ago. There is more plasma in space 10 years going into the ecliptic and ten year going out so you are now in an enlightenment sweet spot and this is why the dark ones will bombard you with disinformation so your minds are so busy processing lies that your Buddha nature within misses the spiritual jump in evolution that can occur in the galactic sweet spot.

The only thing you should be doing now is listening to the birds sing again, ensure you are always kind to others, and focus all your spiritual energies towards your own personal enlightenment. If you have not transmuted the violet flame yourself and attained enlightenment you really have no place teaching others the higher path. The internet and these forums are awash with unenlightened channelers that have no idea the damage their failed predictions bring to awakening souls or perhaps they do. The dark energies in the lower fourth dimension can feed of negative human emotions at the etheric level. Every time another failed prediction occurs they get a harvest. Fear and hatred are the beer and spirits of emotions for the dark, but the real champagne of emotions for these dark ones is hopelessness and despair. Every slimy being in the lower fourth got fed real well the day Oct 14, 2008 did not occur. How many other false events do you need to see before you wake up? Stop feeding these galactic pigs your emotions and take your dignity and planet back. The dark also believe that if they tell you what they are doing through these channels and other disinformation agents that their karma debt is reduced. If you know what the dark are doing and you still do nothing to stop it, it does lessen their karma, as unfair that may sound. They are hoping for a big emotional harvest on Dec 21, 2012 and shame on all of you if you give it to them.

Currently you have a few major channelers presenting humanity with some pretty farfetched scenarios that differ significantly between each camp. Watch as none of their predictions come true in the next 100 days. Most have said there will be first contact before Dec 21, 2012 and many of you now know that this will not occur. Do they refund the webinar fees when 75% of their predictions fail? They produce the bulk of the disinformation, but they often have lower ranking chums that set up home in these forums to help support a certain galactic paradigm. Some are just gullible souls who believe it, but when you see an individual backing something aggressively for a long period of time you likely have a real agent of disinformation. These are often low ranking freemasons or Mi5/CIA operative types, but they are often professional disinformation agents so they will appear friendly and informative at first. A real person would never spend the time and energy they do supporting a channel that never delivers a real prediction.

When you see other members question their channeler’s failed predictions they will mount aggressive campaigns to discredit them often labeling their target victims as trolls or dark ones. Some will post failed channeling after failed channeling and still act glib and arrogant when others ask them why they support failed predictions so often. They will even recruit others in their attacks, but their sociopathic traits will come to the surface at some point and reveal their true identity. A true light warrior has equanimity and real heart. At some point you will eventually begin to see these cyber sharks crack as their inner anger surfaces and it becomes obvious they truly lack any real compassion. After their coordinated attacks are finished they often come back offering their fake love and light, or they post something real to look like a light worker again. Their sociopathic like traits will really come to the surface when they signal out an individual for banishment and they typically go hunting in chum packs of 2-4 individuals. They even start disinformation threads directed at their victims and will create childish dramas during their campaigns. Remember, sociopaths are emotionally children in grown bodies so they will never take any personal responsibility for any hurt or harm they caused others even when they are faced with the facts. Do not even waste your time attempting to point you their own hypocrisy because these mind manipulated drones are too damaged at the soul level for any self-reflection whatsoever.

They are trained experts in the art of mind manipulation and they often recruit gullible or troubled souls in forums through themes like twin flame connections and star seed past lives. They often lack the mental abilities to gain any real authority with their words, so they will give themselves high ranking, self-anointing titles to gain false superiority over others. They will often come across as arrogant and will openly pronounce their galactic light warrior abilities. They will rarely show a photo on a profile and they typically hide behind avatars because they know most women and real light workers would see their shifty eyes and dark auras. If you smell one of these cyber sharks on your favorite forum do not feed them or engage them in any way. They do not believe in the false paradigms they preach and their sole job is to keep the division and disunity going. Main stream society is manipulated with different religions and wars, but older souls need more elaborate disinformation and you are getting it in buckets now on the internet.

These people need to create a better story for the older souls and they are manipulating you by bombarding you with so many different galactic paradigms that you will never be able to think for yourself and look within to reveal your own Buddha-nature. They are there to create disunity amongst the real light workers and seekers. You have to forgive these souls as most are extremely manipulated and troubled people and they will be aggressive, glib, vengefully, sneaky and outright rude to anyone they see as a threat to their false galactic belief system. They have no room for critical thinkers on their threads and they will never directly address all the failed predictions of their particular galactic paradigm or guru. They will just shift the topic back onto you. They will even attack other channelings and differing galactic beliefs in forums to look more reliable themselves and boost subscription to theirs. Please remember that when people actively try to prevent the upliftment of an entire race like these lost souls do on a daily basis, it truly makes them the real galactic skid marks of the multiverse.

If the sixth root race is to take hold we need to find unity and that will not occur as long as you give your power to some failed galactic paradigm or some other race. Once another world gives a planet false channelings they have already potentially altered their history and spiritual development of the entire planet and a higher world would never do that. This must be a basic law of a higher world. Have you noticed the same global power structure is still in full control and all the green lights announced never occurred? Should we wait for them to create some new fantasy friends to led us down another path of hope? The galactic brother and sisters we want to meet would never give you 3 Decades of Disinformation (3DD), so perhaps we need to start directing our thought to better places. I am certain we will meet our real galactic family when we are ready, but they will not leave you with three decades of false promises.

The top ten signs you are likely being feed galactic disinformation include:

There is something deficient in you as a race like altered DNA that can only be fixed by them
They want to offer you spiritual alternatives but never seem to have a complete teaching and fail to demonstrate a sage like depth of knowledge.
They are here to save you from an imminent threat, and bombarded a site with threads, but fade away quickly for a few weeks when the prediction fails to eventuate
They use flowery language and repeatedly praise your courage and bravery making you the stars of the multiverse.
They offer things like twin flame reunions and large cash installments (sex and money). As we move from a material world to a spiritual one the last thing selfish rampant consumers need is a huge cash payout. Are they going to pay with reptilian shillings or fake US dollars?
Continual failure of predictions without any explanation other than excuses like it happened in another dimension. Again would an advance race be unable to deliver a simple message and get the dimension right.
Continual creation of a first contact scenario that never seems to occur then blames the dark for preventing it from happening.
False self-anointing titles and fake friendships with earth’s real spiritual hierarchy
Aggressive behavior displayed by their support shills when failed predictions are questioned
Attempts to create reliance on technology for living and even spiritual enlightenment itself without ever delivering a single thing

Kelly
20th September 2012, 15:19
Just to state, i never wrote this post, it was written by a friend of mine, so i decided to share it here :)

gooty64
20th September 2012, 15:28
Have you ever wondered why so much effort is being made to lead you down a certain galactic belief system?
yes

Have you ever wondered why galactic beings that can travel forward and backwards in time can’t get a date straight with a prison planet like ours?
yes

Have you ever wondered why a higher world would even allow so much confusion to be transmitted through so many channels and then somehow think that would aid in the upliftment of our planet?
yes

Have you ever wondered why your own planet’s spiritual hierarchy has been hijacked and new names of unknown ascended masters are added each month by channelers competing for a spot on the circuit.
erm, yes


Maybe we really need to unplug from this matrix altogether and walk towards self-reliance and unity.
YES


The internet and these forums are awash with unenlightened channelers that have no idea the damage their failed predictions bring to awakening souls or perhaps they do.
been there

Thanks for posting this Kelly!
Absolute must read and digest article!

bearcow
20th September 2012, 15:52
Master Padma said: In the future, when the dark age of degeneration arrives, some people who claim to be practitioners will desire to teach others without having received permission. Without having practiced themselves they will instruct others in meditation. Without being liberated themselves they will pretend to give instructions for liberation. Without being devoid of self-interest they will instruct others to cast away their fetters of attachment and be generous. Without the slightest understanding of the good or evil of their own actions they will spout clairvoyant statements about good or evil fare of others. Having no stability themselves they will claim to be benefiting other beings.

99.9% of the personalities openly teaching metaphysical topics fall into this category. In North America, the rate is even higher. However, this is the age of the blind leading the blind, and it is a necessary evil.

There is something to be gained within yourself if you can spot the bull****ters for what they are, because more often than naught they believe what they tell you is the truth.

Bill Ryan
20th September 2012, 15:54
Have you ever wondered why so much effort is being made to lead you down a certain galactic belief system? yes

Have you ever wondered why galactic beings that can travel forward and backwards in time can’t get a date straight with a prison planet like ours? yes

Have you ever wondered why a higher world would even allow so much confusion to be transmitted through so many channels and then somehow think that would aid in the upliftment of our planet? yes

Have you ever wondered why your own planet’s spiritual hierarchy has been hijacked and new names of unknown ascended masters are added each month by channelers competing for a spot on the circuit. erm, yes


Maybe we really need to unplug from this matrix altogether and walk towards self-reliance and unity. YES



Great rhetorical post. The points made are serious ones, and illustrate how a substantial proportion of the New Age movement has been hijacked.

spiritguide
20th September 2012, 16:17
3DD started with the assassination of J.F. Kennedy, since then it's been deceit and cover up on a world wide basis. IMHO

Wind
20th September 2012, 17:11
I think that it started 65 years ago from Roswell.

huyi82
20th September 2012, 17:49
even the bible warns about false prophets so it's nothing new, still great post OP, and that is interesting what you said about them not using their own picture as their avatar, i would spot them from a mile away if they had something wrong with them.

these days i tend to just ignore these prophets as we all know nothing will come of them, if you show interest and disappoint then yes, the lower beings will suck all that energy right out of you, ignore them and they don't give them what they want.

lightseeker
20th September 2012, 18:09
I am glad I found this artlce, or maybe I was led to it. Either way, my intuition has been telling me for a long time, that some info. that I may have read on this forum or others, or other web sites just did not add up- accept to create confusion. This times that I would feel this sense of confusion i instinctively moved away from my computer for a while and meditated. I continue to do this always asking for guidance - and receiving it. There have been threads here and on other forums that I intuiitively ignore. I don't even bother opening the thread, I receive the clear message internally that it is divisive and serves not purpose. But that is just me. Maybe others have felt the same way.

another bob
20th September 2012, 19:21
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Mark
20th September 2012, 19:32
"Master Padma said: In the future, when the dark age of degeneration arrives, some people who claim to be practitioners will desire to teach others without having received permission. Without having practiced themselves they will instruct others in meditation. Without being liberated themselves they will pretend to give instructions for liberation. Without being devoid of self-interest they will instruct others to cast away their fetters of attachment and be generous. Without the slightest understanding of the good or evil of their own actions they will spout clairvoyant statements about good or evil fare of others. Having no stability themselves they will claim to be benefiting other beings. There will be many who will pretend, be hypocritical, cheat, and deceive in the name of the Dharma."

Love this quote. So true. There are a lot of dangerously relative statements and equally questionable potentialities regarding the state of this world and the multiverse in the following discourse but I can get with the overall gist of being responsible for your own beliefs and understanding.

ghostrider
21st September 2012, 02:10
imagine us, with higher technology able to travel to galaxies far away, look at us here on earth, so much war, different religions, beliefs, splinter groups creating murder across the globe . The sane spiritual people here want nothing to do with insane murders, yet we cannot stop them all. People choose their own path. likewise ET's could very well have this same problem, hence the enphasis on peace, spirituality, nature . I'm sure they ( ET's ) have groups that roam the stars making trouble where they can. the ET version of the ptb.

nomadguy
21st September 2012, 06:00
:clap2:

Excellent thread!
"self-reliance and unity"

That is a really good idea in the face of all the nonsense, and more-so it would be a responsible path.

Bright Garlick
21st September 2012, 06:30
Thanks Kelly - I like how you expressed the lineage and the importance of authenticity. Many so called Buddhists don't get Buddhism and for many so called teachers (of all teachings) it is a crutch attached to money or self importance.

Also, our ET friends don't in my experience promise anything - much of that is our projection. For the most part, they have waited patiently for us to grow and will continue to do so till we are no more. They accept us as we are - even though some see us as very selfish.
I have never heard an ET say that we are deficient in any way. In fact it is the opposite - they seem to have universal love and compassion - probably some more so than others but I would say that is the overall trend.

Tarka the Duck
21st September 2012, 07:35
Thanks for this, Kelly and Kelly's friend ;)


Master Padma said: In the future, when the dark age of degeneration arrives, some people who claim to be practitioners will desire to teach others without having received permission. Without having practiced themselves they will instruct others in meditation. Without being liberated themselves they will pretend to give instructions for liberation. Without being devoid of self-interest they will instruct others to cast away their fetters of attachment and be generous. Without the slightest understanding of the good or evil of their own actions they will spout clairvoyant statements about good or evil fare of others. Having no stability themselves they will claim to be benefiting other beings. There will be many who will pretend, be hypocritical, cheat, and deceive in the name of the Dharma.


This reminded me of a cautionary and hard hitting piece of writing by Sir Aurobindo, written in 1932, known as The Internediate Zone, a dangerous and misleading transitional spiritual and pseudo-spiritual region between the ordinary consciousness of the outer being and True Realisation. He foresaw the current influx of self proclaimed "enlightened" teachers offering an ultra-simplified path to liberation:

...These things, when they pour down or come in, present themselves with a great force, a vivid sense of inspiration or illumination, much sensation of light and joy, an impression of widening and power. The sadhak feels himself freed from the normal limits, projected into a wonderful new world of experience, filled and enlarged and exalted;what comes associates itself, besides, with his aspirations, ambitions, notions of spiritual fulfillment and yogic siddhi; it is represented even as itself that realisation and fulfillment. Very easily he is carried away by the splendour and the rush, and thinks that he has realised more than he has truly done, something final or at least something sovereignly true. At this stage the necessary knowledge and experience are usually lacking which would tell him that this is only a very uncertain and mixed beginning; he may not realise at once that he is still in the cosmic Ignorance, not in the cosmic Truth, much less in the Transcendental Truth, and that whatever formative or dynamic idea-truths may have come down into him are partial only and yet further diminished by their presentation to him by a still mixed consciousness. He may fail to realise also that if he rushes to apply what he is realising or receiving as if it were something definitive, he may either fall into confusion and error or else get shut up in some partial formation in which there may be an element of spiritual Truth but it is likely to be outweighted by more dubious mental and vital accretions that deform it altogether.

Tony
21st September 2012, 08:07
There are many styles of working.


There are a variety of different conceptions of the nature of a bodhisattva in Mahāyāna. According to some Mahāyāna sources a bodhisattva is someone on the path to full Buddhahood. Others speak of bodhisattvas renouncing Buddhahood. According to the Kun-bzang bla-ma'i zhal-lung, a bodhisattva can choose any of three paths to help sentient beings in the process of achieving buddhahood. They are:

king-like bodhisattva - one who aspires to become buddha as soon as possible and then help sentient beings in full fledge;
boatman-like bodhisattva - one who aspires to achieve buddhahood along with other sentient beings and
shepherd-like bodhisattva - one who aspires to delay buddhahood until all other sentient beings achieve buddhahood. Bodhisattvas like Avalokiteśvara and Śāntideva are believed to fall in this category.





All the best to us,
Tony




(It is up to each individual to test, and test, and test again, and see for oneself if something works for us. Be very careful about using spiritual quotes as a weapon. That intention will leave an imprint on the mind. )

Sirius White
21st September 2012, 09:03
This is the kind of stuf I've been trying to help those who are like us to get.

In particular those in the indigo/starseed crowds. Those new age belief systems are designed specifically to hijack people like that. Some people, like A.Deane tried to warn about this in the earlier years- but it is possible even her own movement was hijacked (information became more and more distorted and expensive as time progressed).

Salvation comes from within, by human beings. Overpopulation is a nonsense agenda. All the hoopla about ascension, well ascension is real but most of the information about it is nonsense. Most of it is based around trying to get people in particular naturally spiritually in tune people- to turn away from focusing on the present, from focusing on solutions, from actually doing something about it- and furthermore from using themselves to manifest it on EARTH, here and now. Now in some fanciful 5th dimension or whatever. You know, all the beings who want this planet for themselves, transmit that crap themselves. Many of them CAN be quite advanced. Can even come to you radiating in light and craft. This does not an enlightened being make.

This period that we are in, is an initiation. It's a test, and its also, a learning/teaching scenario. These channels which are being hijacked and deceived for the obvious reason of misguiding human consciousness. In particular, misleading the more powerful manifesters, the more powerful energy tuners. The initiate is always tested, he always has to seek truth undoubtedly, with great fire, open mind and sharp discernment. Never does the initiate truly give him in the search for the Truth. Both the internal and external truths.

I am of course, no longer worried. Starseeds, walkins, indigos, sure these things are real. I have had real experiences with the most weirdest of things- that to this day, even with accumulated knowings and knowledge- still baffle me. But those things can be a distraction. In particular labels. These labels are exploited. I have seen these forums often infiltrated by the occasional Mason, and/or CIA person, and just destroy it. At the same time, the internet has been a nice place for them to test these ridiculous, exaggerated theories to then monitor the responses and where energies go. The powers that be are well aware of incarnated essences sent to help, and elevate mankinds consciousness as a whole. Remember, the powers that be don't just simply make up bull****.

They actually, use profound truths, and twist them according to their needs to misguide and/or manipulate. This is how they do it, if it was utter bull**** people would not resonate with the concepts as easily. Religion, as is any belief system is open game for this.

Knowingness, information, and more has to come from the deeper depths of self, and the intellectual equivalences have to be carefully vetted over time. And constantly checked by hemisphere-synchronized thinking, non-linear, yet increasingly precise.

Yes, we are in the age of disinformation. But the good news, is that the disinformation campaign exits because they know that the truth can NEVER truly be hidden- and that it is emerging irregardless. What we, those on the threshold of understanding have to do is continuously move through it, taking the core truths without the bias/nonsense, discarding the fear and all the distractions on the way. This is something every initiate undergoes in the pursuit of truth. Now, all of humanity is being initiated- and it is not without its hiccups, and enemies along the way who would rather us never come pit enlightened. But, we are on our way :)

Tony
21st September 2012, 11:48
Many experiences are part of our journey. We may think we have to avoid them, but can open us up to the very lesson we need to know. To be able to look at one's anger without judgment, can be the first steps to tolerance, patience and forgiveness.

We needn't be afraid of everything the appears in the mind, the good and the not so good, it can increase our understanding and confidence. And therefore love.

I have been in many spiritual groups that have “lead me up the garden... path!” It was right for some people at that time and then we can choose to move on. ….I was kicked out!

The result is that it focuses our mind on what we really wanted.

Maunagarjana
21st September 2012, 15:49
imagine us, with higher technology able to travel to galaxies far away, look at us here on earth, so much war, different religions, beliefs, splinter groups creating murder across the globe . The sane spiritual people here want nothing to do with insane murders, yet we cannot stop them all. People choose their own path. likewise ET's could very well have this same problem, hence the enphasis on peace, spirituality, nature . I'm sure they ( ET's ) have groups that roam the stars making trouble where they can. the ET version of the ptb.

True. If there's any doubt for people whether or not there are negative ETs, all we have to do is look at ourselves. To other races, we would certainly fit in that category, yet so far we are only capable of harming ourselves. But I think sometimes what appears to be "negative" though could just be immaturity or just doing what you have to do to survive.

Maunagarjana
21st September 2012, 15:57
Thanks for posting this article, Kelly. I found it to be very interesting and timely. The article does seem slanted towards a very Eastern point of view, but that's fine with me, because that's where I'm coming from. I found it interesting that the article was mixing Buddhist and Hindu ideas together, which might put those of a Buddhist and Hindu fundamentalist mindset off, which is fine with me. I dislike all types of fundamentalism. I was delighted by the reference to Kurkshetra because I was just the other day researching the Mahabharata. I got interested in it from reading this book: http://www.amazon.com/Grant-Morrisons-18-Days-Morrison/dp/1606901745

AriG
21st September 2012, 16:04
1200 Year Tibetan Prophecy Confirms 3DD (3 Decades of disinformation)

We may have been seeded on this planet, but one thing an advance race cannot even control is the spirits that incarnate into the DNA they seed. They say the grays can capture a soul, but they will never be able to create one.

These events may possibly be implemented in 3D by humans in service to others. In order to replicate something, one must first be in possession of that thing, study it, replicate or co-opt it and then patently destroy it.


However, this is a most intelligent and insightful thread. Thank you.

Charlatans masquerading as gurus and truth seekers is probably the number one reason awakening the masses in an arduous task. Most don't want to be associated with such far reaching hypotheses. Wouldn't a scientific and balanced approach toward dissemination of ideology be more effective? One needn't present the information on a macro level, but a micro level, as in " this is how this affects you ". In other words, don't immediately disclose to the unawakened that hyperdimensional forces are pulling the strings, but rather this group has taken control of xyz commodity and are using that power to manipulate your reality. Once they have digested that truth, they wil seek out greater and more universal truths, hopefully with a healthy dose of discernment. You can't teach feed an infant a roast dinner. The system has to mature in order to digest.

Edit to add:

Regarding the time line: is it possible that the dis-info campaign accelerated about the time of the industrial revolution? Massive paradigm shift during that period. Just thoughts.

Sidney
21st September 2012, 16:04
Great thread!!!!!


Just curious if anyone here can comment on the "Bringers of the Dawn" books by Barbara Marciniak. channelled information from the pleiadians. I just finished bringers of the dawn and I found it inspiring, and mostly all of the predicted scenarios have come true. copywrite 1992. They do not give specific dates or specific events but in a roud about way she has described pretty much the sequence of "scenarios" that have occurred especially in the United States. If anyone else has read this, I would love any comments,or concerns. Much of it does resonate with me, but again, it is "channelled" so discernment is a must.

gooty64
21st September 2012, 17:12
Marciniak's second book "Earth" kinda gets weird-imho.
At one point she poses that they the pleaidians may be trying to "trick" us and that we are supposed to figure it out-WHAT?
But, I too thought the first book was excellent. Beats me:noidea:



IcrGusMLMQ4
Great thread!!!!!


Just curious if anyone here can comment on the "Bringers of the Dawn" books by Barbara Marciniak. channelled information from the pleiadians. I just finished bringers of the dawn and I found it inspiring, and mostly all of the predicted scenarios have come true. copywrite 1992. They do not give specific dates or specific events but in a roud about way she has described pretty much the sequence of "scenarios" that have occurred especially in the United States. If anyone else has read this, I would love any comments,or concerns. Much of it does resonate with me, but again, it is "channelled" so discernment is a must.

Arrowwind
21st September 2012, 17:14
:clap2:

Excellent thread!
"self-reliance and unity"

That is a really good idea in the face of all the nonsense, and more-so it would be a responsible path.

This is the core of it and I latched onto this same statement also when I read the above.

(and I am here playing with some of what this has stirred up.....)

I have been expounding this since I started on this forum some couple thousand of posts ago. I also took particular note from the above essay of the statements regarding the intent of some of these dark and controlling forces to eliminate hope and foster dispair and they have many tactics to create this negative energy vortex.

When you hope not, you do not take action. Even the mere effort to sign a petition seems impossible, hence driving the negativity and hopelessness further into the psyche of those struggling to get out of hopelessness and dispair, that perhaps who did sign something as simple as a petition... and I use this petition as only a very simple example.... for there are far greater works in the make.

If there is no UNITY in action, in direction, in design and coreograph of energy this play we are in will not resolve, not now, not in 700 years. These things are to be worked on in 3D, wether we like it or not, not on an other plane of existence, if it were not so then why so much effort into creating 3DD, three dimensional delusion? The battle is here in 3D and so are you.

If you have read the tales of Krishna and Arjuna you clearly understand this.

All those who would stifle your energy, intimidate you with shame, lack of encouragement, or arguments to promote stagnation in your energy vortex are hooked into the controllers, although they may not realize it. They self justify their beliefs with tons of self fulfilling 'evidence' of a world gone wrong... which feeds into the hoplessness dispair loop.

Beware.

Although it is good to understand just how the world has gone wrong and what is wrong, a world gone wrong is no excuse to stiffle your energy field and stop enacting UNITY and SELF RELIANCE and to become dead in the water. When you have done this then they have won your energy over and you beocome inert and incapble of any higher evolution. You have bceome them, and locked into 3DD.

I would also add, that in order to save our evolution (your evolution) there is no necessity to believe in any god, any ascended master or any other species or type of being as a teacher or guide. If you follow a path of love and compassion and enact this path with UNITY and SELF RELIANCE you will find the devine destiny that is the human potential. That is all that is requried, IMHO.

Defination of UNITY = The cohesive dynamic of self love, love for others and for all creation that recognizes and vibrates in accord with all others in the same state. This dynamic cannot be thwarted or defiled when in a pure UNITY state and all intent and action moved into creation revolves around the UNITY dynamic.
SELF RELIANCE = the ability to move ones own energy towards the goal of perpetually manefesting UNITY with others and all creation based on love, to create a sustainable existence for life.

hence I at this time support and promote:

www.thrivemovement.com (http://www.thrivemovement.com)
www.oathkeepers.org (http://www.oathkeepers.org)
farmer's markets across the nation

greybeard
21st September 2012, 17:52
Hi Arrowwind
I believe the Thrive movement is a way forward as is The Global Coherence Initiative http://www.glcoherence.org/
Gregg Braden is one of the promoter of this and is on the board of management--- linked to Heart Maths.
The Thrive documentary film is well worth viewing as is the Gregg Braden talk on this thread link here.

Regards Chris

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-The-Ego-what-is-it-How-to-transcend-it.&p=551545&viewfull=1#post551545

noxon medem
21st September 2012, 18:00
..
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- May be another piece of music ? :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yDSVM5lEY8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yDSVM5lEY8
(Paul McCartney and the Wings - Back To The Egg)

( Music is older than reason ..).
- or maybe Old is a reason for Music ...

Be (a) Well , All .

:- )

PS.
- another piece of music
from the past , excisting now :

Electric Light Orchestra - Wild West Hero :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcSjCDxoBPY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcSjCDxoBPY

..
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PS.
Sorry for digressing again ..

..
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Arrowwind
21st September 2012, 18:23
I am not familiar with the site you mention, Greybeard. I will take a look...
coherence and UNITY is a very similar concept.
If a group is adhered with love then UNITY is an inevitable result.

greybeard
21st September 2012, 18:26
2012: An Awakening with David Icke, John Major Jenkins, Gregg Braden

While it might seem slightly of topic it covers the misinformation that we are fed on various subjects.
Graham Hancock also worth a search re our history.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj8SQyDxWug

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj8SQyDxWug



Chris

AriG
21st September 2012, 19:34
Hi Arrowwind
I believe the Thrive movement is a way forward


Hi Chris,

I have heard that 'Thrive' is an Agenda 21 brainchild. Since you are incredibly well respected, could you share your impressions as to why you think its a way forward? Perhaps I should take another look. I am concerned about the Foster Gamble presence. Procter and Gamble has committed some Imperialistic atrocities in the name of dividend returns. Having known some of their executives, I will tell you that these individuals are devoid of empathy and also that Foster is on the payroll via trust.

Personally, I am always suspect of any initiative that seeks to control and or alter that which should spring forth organically - in this case, community/society.

I would appreciate knowing your thoughts. Thank you.

meat suit
21st September 2012, 19:39
the OP is an interesting read, thanks for posting this Kelly...

personally I have to class it as 'just more speculation' on what is really going on here,,,, maybe one day there will be open disclosure ...until then anything can be interpreted as anything....
meanwhile I picked a load of hawberries and going to try making hawberry ketchup..... hows that for being here and now....:p

Arrowwind
22nd September 2012, 00:08
Hi Arrowwind
I believe the Thrive movement is a way forward


Hi Chris,

I have heard that 'Thrive' is an Agenda 21 brainchild. Since you are incredibly well respected, could you share your impressions as to why you think its a way forward? Perhaps I should take another look. I am concerned about the Foster Gamble presence. Procter and Gamble has committed some Imperialistic atrocities in the name of dividend returns. Having known some of their executives, I will tell you that these individuals are devoid of empathy and also that Foster is on the payroll via trust.

Personally, I am always suspect of any initiative that seeks to control and or alter that which should spring forth organically - in this case, community/society.

I would appreciate knowing your thoughts. Thank you.


Although I am not Chris nor speaking for him, Thrive is not an Agenda 21 brain child. This page will show you why. http://www.thrivemovement.com/solutions-liberty (http://www.thrivemovement.com/solutions-liberty)
Agenda 21 is impossible unless personal liberties and property are taken away from individuals and thrive endeavors to educate and organize to sustain personal freedom, reduce taxation, reduce the size of government, they support the Ron Paul agenda, and they are for a republic, not a democracy nor fascist dictatorship by organizations outside of local jurisdiction (United Nations)... all which is contrary to Agenda 21

realitycorrodes
22nd September 2012, 06:45
The quote from padmasambava seem to contain a reasonable amount of truth. From there on it seemed a lot of unprovable disinformation, much like the disinformation the article seemed to be dismissing.

I am surprised no else seemed to notice, except of course "meat suit".

What does this say about all the people who seemed to hurriedly want to jump on the band wagon of this thread?

I guess they would just say I am the one who is full of sh*t. Who knows maybe I am?

Makes one think...don't you think! (Natural NLP - channelled from me)

Wishing everyone profound peace and absolute freedom now and always!

greybeard
22nd September 2012, 07:17
Hi Arrowwind
I believe the Thrive movement is a way forward


Hi Chris,

I have heard that 'Thrive' is an Agenda 21 brainchild. Since you are incredibly well respected, could you share your impressions as to why you think its a way forward? Perhaps I should take another look. I am concerned about the Foster Gamble presence. Procter and Gamble has committed some Imperialistic atrocities in the name of dividend returns. Having known some of their executives, I will tell you that these individuals are devoid of empathy and also that Foster is on the payroll via trust.

Personally, I am always suspect of any initiative that seeks to control and or alter that which should spring forth organically - in this case, community/society.

I would appreciate knowing your thoughts. Thank you.

Hi AriG
Im not in favour of control other than self control.

I think the Thrive documentary is very educational and from insight that can be got from this and similar wake up films, a way forward may well present itself organically. Just a question of taking what suits one self personally and leaving the rest.

Thanks for the kind words.

Chris

AriG
22nd September 2012, 10:07
What does this say about all the people who seemed to hurriedly want to jump on the band wagon of this thread?

I guess they would just say I am the one who is full of sh*t. Who knows maybe I am?
!

It would suggest that no one wants to take a judgmental stance against another person's religion. Often times that faith is what sustains a person. What was important was the intent which was honorable and good. Denigrating others' points of view is not a developmentally profitable endeavor.

AriG
22nd September 2012, 10:15
Although I am not Chris nor speaking for him, Thrive is not an Agenda 21 brain child. This page will show you why. http://www.thrivemovement.com/solutions-liberty (http://www.thrivemovement.com/solutions-liberty)
Agenda 21 is impossible unless personal liberties and property are taken away from individuals and thrive endeavors to educate and organize to sustain personal freedom, reduce taxation, reduce the size of government, they support the Ron Paul agenda, and they are for a republic, not a democracy nor fascist dictatorship by organizations outside of local jurisdiction (United Nations)... all which is contrary to Agenda 21

It does appear that they ( Thrive ) have changed their message a bit since their inception. Weren't they initially promoting an environmental agenda? Indeed, government is an antiquated concept for the vast majority of the population that does not require it.

Arrowwind
22nd September 2012, 15:12
Although I am not Chris nor speaking for him, Thrive is not an Agenda 21 brain child. This page will show you why. http://www.thrivemovement.com/solutions-liberty (http://www.thrivemovement.com/solutions-liberty)
Agenda 21 is impossible unless personal liberties and property are taken away from individuals and thrive endeavors to educate and organize to sustain personal freedom, reduce taxation, reduce the size of government, they support the Ron Paul agenda, and they are for a republic, not a democracy nor fascist dictatorship by organizations outside of local jurisdiction (United Nations)... all which is contrary to Agenda 21

It does appear that they ( Thrive ) have changed their message a bit since their inception. Weren't they initially promoting an environmental agenda? Indeed, government is an antiquated concept for the vast majority of the population that does not require it.

Well. yes there are environmental aspects, among many other issues, but I dont think they ever changed anything... like sustainability in agriculture and reduction of corporations like cargill and monsanto who endeavor to control world agriculture and all the seed banks and production of seed. But nothing to take land and water rights away from people, nothing to curtail individual rights and local jurisdiction.

Arrowwind
22nd September 2012, 15:22
[Personally, I am always suspect of any initiative that seeks to control and or alter that which should spring forth organically - in this case, community/society.

I would appreciate knowing your thoughts. Thank you.

and I would add here that this statement shows me that you really spent no time going through their website. It is loaded with links to grassroots organizations. One of the purposes of thrive it to help these local organizations be aware of each other around the world so they can show each other what they are doing. See these links:
http://www.thrivemovement.com/solutions-what_can_i_do (http://www.thrivemovement.com/solutions-what_can_i_do)
http://www.thrivemovement.com/solutions-hub (http://www.thrivemovement.com/solutions-hub)

I guess the benefit of having to point all this stuff out to you to counter your false impressions is that maybe other people will take a look who have not yet done so.

realitycorrodes
22nd September 2012, 20:12
It would suggest that no one wants to take a judgmental stance against another person's religion. Often times that faith is what sustains a person. What was important was the intent which was honorable and good. Denigrating others' points of view is not a developmentally profitable endeavor.

Sounds like you are judging me. lol

That's o.k. as I am a believer in free speech. And I am genuinely interested in others opinions whether they support my thoughts or not - as I am interested in the truth at all costs - as such, if I am wrong I don't mind being told - as I consider enlightenment beneficial.

A lot of people just want to appear right at the expense of the truth - I am told it makes their ego's feel good. I guess they must be carrying a lot of fear.

It has been my experience people build beliefs of denial around core feelings of fear, in order to never face the truth of what that fear holds? Just speculating, I guess?

A lot of times faith is just denial - denial is not related to the truth. It is very hard to communicate anything worthwhile, let alone change anything, if everyone is living in denial about what is really going on and polices anyone else who wishes to point out such denial.

Welcome to your experience and the policeman who enforces it.

Just my humble opinion.