View Full Version : The drugs don't work: a modern medical scandal
Rollo
24th September 2012, 11:59
The doctors prescribing the drugs don't know they don't do what they're meant to. Nor do their patients. The manufacturers know full well, but they're not telling.
Full Article Here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/sep/21/drugs-industry-scandal-ben-goldacre)
WhiteFeather
24th September 2012, 12:21
But The Doctors do know they get a kickback on all the poisons they give out to their patients. Look at the new bar code on the bottom of the prescription they write. Convenient in tracking The Doctors distribution of what drugs they prescribe. The pharmaceutical companies can then track all the poisons (medicines) the doctor prescribes, who then write out a nice commission check to the doctor.
gooty64
24th September 2012, 13:10
One of the little perks doctors and nurses get is free lunch as delivered by me when I used to work at the Green Mill restaurant.
The drug reps would order $200-$300 worth of salad pizza, pasta, bottled water/soda and of course cookies too.
The drug reps would use the food to schmooze the doctors and nurses to order their products while the customers sat in the waiting room.
Merck drug reps were the worst tippers:p.
Laura Elina
24th September 2012, 16:30
I had a problem with an infection (no gross details here lol) and it was getting very painful, but I lived in the US and had no money for health insurance and I was just sweating about it, because didn't wanna see a doctor to just add another bill to a dire financial situation... So I went to my local pharmacy to see, if there was something I could get to ease the pain. Well so it happened that the pharmacist told me about an alternative way to ease my situation and completely fix it, the answer was so simple and didn't require any of the antibiotics the doctor would have prescribed me, I was fine within a week.
That is not to say that mainstream medicine cannot be helpful, but a lot of doctors are trigger happy with prescribing medicine... Which is quite tragic.
lightseeker
24th September 2012, 20:14
If you can do not use pharmas drugs. Most of us know that many of what they sell, has so many side affects and some of these drugs out right kill you. Why do medical doctors prescribe/sell drugs that harm and kill people and it is legal to do so. And someone who sells a joint goes to Jail. Something is a little screwed up here isn't it. I do not use any illegal or legal drugs of any kind. I decided to take full responsibility for my own health and well being a few years back. I researched a lot a realized there is a lot of good food and natural supliments that work very well is not better than big pharmas poisons. I believe is preventing dis ease. Buy staying healthy with a very diciplined diet, exercise, daily meditation and supliments. It work for me. But I realize it may not for everyone.
Robert J. Niewiadomski
24th September 2012, 21:06
Hi, this is old news (2009) and i have already posted it on PA. But it fits here so well i could not resist:
Placebos Are Getting More Effective. Drugmakers Are Desperate to Know Why.
http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1709/ff_placebo_effect_f.jpg
Merck was in trouble. In 2002, the pharmaceutical giant was falling behind its rivals in sales. Even worse, patents on five blockbuster drugs were about to expire, which would allow cheaper generics to flood the market. The company hadn't introduced a truly new product in three years, and its stock price was plummeting.
In interviews with the press, Edward Scolnick, Merck's research director, laid out his battle plan to restore the firm to preeminence. Key to his strategy was expanding the company's reach into the antidepressant market, where Merck had lagged while competitors like Pfizer and GlaxoSmithKline created some of the best-selling drugs in the world. "To remain dominant in the future," he told Forbes, "we need to dominate the central nervous system."
His plan hinged on the success of an experimental antidepressant codenamed MK-869. Still in clinical trials, it looked like every pharma executive's dream: a new kind of medication that exploited brain chemistry in innovative ways to promote feelings of well-being. The drug tested brilliantly early on, with minimal side effects, and Merck touted its game-changing potential at a meeting of 300 securities analysts.
Behind the scenes, however, MK-869 was starting to unravel. True, many test subjects treated with the medication felt their hopelessness and anxiety lift. But so did nearly the same number who took a placebo, a look-alike pill made of milk sugar or another inert substance given to groups of volunteers in clinical trials to gauge how much more effective the real drug is by comparison. The fact that taking a faux drug can powerfully improve some people's health—the so-called placebo effect—has long been considered an embarrassment to the serious practice of pharmacology.
Ultimately, Merck's foray into the antidepressant market failed. In subsequent tests, MK-869 turned out to be no more effective than a placebo. In the jargon of the industry, the trials crossed the futility boundary.
MK-869 wasn't the only highly anticipated medical breakthrough to be undone in recent years by the placebo effect. From 2001 to 2006, the percentage of new products cut from development after Phase II clinical trials, when drugs are first tested against placebo, rose by 20 percent. The failure rate in more extensive Phase III trials increased by 11 percent, mainly due to surprisingly poor showings against placebo. Despite historic levels of industry investment in R&D, the US Food and Drug Administration approved only 19 first-of-their-kind remedies in 2007—the fewest since 1983—and just 24 in 2008. Half of all drugs that fail in late-stage trials drop out of the pipeline due to their inability to beat sugar pills.
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Full story: http://www.wired.com/medtech/drugs/magazine/17-09/ff_placebo_effect?currentPage=all
Of course, it turns out sugar is "toxic" too! Nice try... No more sugar pills to compete with "real" drugs :P
My theory in regard of placebo becoming more effective are people waking up more and more to the idea that our healing power comes from within not without. The only component missing is Faith. Of course you have to keep your "vibration" high (Love or creator mindset) above disease enabling lower vibration (fear, anger and such or victim mindset). It really works...
Germs and viruses live all the time within us. But as long as we act lovingly as creators they are harmless. The moment we start to behave like victim those indwellers start to make damage. Because we allow them to do that by our victim attitude...
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