What we may be here to do

[Bill Ryan]

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Dear All:

I'm as certain as I can be that in the next 6-9 months quite a lot is going to happen that may require us to get our life jackets on (routine and sensible when ocean sailing), work together well, and safeguard our energy, resources and well-being until the storm is over.

Like sailing at sea, storms are not to be feared -- just to be handled. If one wanted to avoid storms, one should not be at sea at all. Here we are all on this planet this lifetime, and it wasn't a mistake. You chose to be here. You have a mission to accomplish.

If you have a good boat and a good crew, then it's simply an adventure ... and, as a spin-off, a test and learning experience for everyone.

It can be a great deal of fun. Nothing trivial is intended by that statement. As spiritual beings, we're all fun-loving dolphins swimming in the universal sea... and sometimes we find ourselves trapped in nets which we have to get out of. That's part of the adventure, too.

The only real problem is remembering your mission. Not easy with Jason-Bourne-amnesia. Look for clues all around you: people you know, people you meet, the things that "happen to you", the coincidences and synchronicities, and what energizes you and keeps capturing your attention.

Then make a guess at what you might be here to do, and start right now -- if you're not already well on your way.

You didn't come here just to watch the show. You're also in the movie, and can change its course. That's why you're here.

Ask yourself these two questions today:


Am I doing what I came here to do?
Am I doing enough?

(Of interest: my own answers to the above are (a) Yes, and (b) No, there's always more.)


My warmest wishes to everyone -- Bill

[Cristian]

yup ...so true; had the same sail through the storm vision two weeks ago



[...]
Maybe the storm is unavoidable. Maybe the storm is in divine order. Maybe the big opportunity will present itself in the years after.

Maybe all those beautiful people all over the world and on this forum were awakened and prepared by the Universe to be the teachers of tomorrow. To be ready when the time comes…

[Fructedor]

Good on yer Bill - always positive

[Fred Steeves]

You didn't come here just to watch the show. You're also in the movie, and can change its course. That's why you're here.

Ask yourself these two questions today:







Am I doing what I came here to do?
Am I doing enough?


Tough questions Bill, and if you don't mind, can I make them even tougher?

Are they in reference to freeing our own individual minds, or freeing the world at large?

Boiling it down. Is the world even meant to be changed, or to be individually transcended?

Cheers,
Fred

[araucaria]

Many thanks Bill.

A general answer to the second question, Am I doing enough? may well be Probably :)

Often less is more, and trying too hard is where we start going wrong.

[Prodigal Son]

Great post Bill.

I've been confidently waiting for direction and it's coming in rather strongly now. I had been in 911 synchronicity mode for more than six years but particularly in the last three. That very recently switched to 1111... it's been absolutely everywhere and both eerily and gleefully obvious. During that time my personal life has also completely changed.... and it's as if I saw in advance everything that was going to happen. Elton John said "I've seen this movie too". That's what it feels like, and I sense these changes coming up for the earth in my gut these days, and not just in the mind..... and the epiphany of my particular assignment is near at hand.

I have a feeling I have more important things to do than have negative energy wars with Internet shills, sock puppets and trolls.....

[SEAM]

I enjoyed the sailing metaphor. Having spent a great deal of time with my hand on a main sheet, which is a huge part of living in Florida... I used to get frustrated when something unexpected occurred. But as my confidence grew, I started to look at it differently... Mainly because I only learned something new, and relevant, when something unexpected happened. (Sample: Never tie the anchor line to the stern when the wind picks up, and you're drifting through the mooring field)

Now, when I set sail, I ask myself, "What will I learn today?".. I have never been on the water without a lesson looming... it's a given...after awhile you kind of look forward to a new lesson! My Father-in-law, who has sailed for over 60 years tell's me "You will never know, or be able to predict... The only thing you can control - Is your reaction"

[Carmody]

I enjoyed the sailing metaphor. Having spent a great deal of time with my hand on a main sheet, which is a huge part of living in Florida... I used to get frustrated when something unexpected occurred. But as my confidence grew, I started to look at it differently... Mainly because I only learned something new, and relevant, when something unexpected happened. (Sample: Never tie the anchor line to the stern when the wind picks up, and you're drifting through the mooring field)

Now, when I set sail, I ask myself, "What will I learn today?".. I have never been on the water without a lesson looming... it's a given...after awhile you kind of look forward to a new lesson! My Father-in-law, who has sailed for over 60 years tell's me "You will never know, or be able to predict... The only thing you can control - Is your reaction"

An excellent bit of learning and analogy on what might be the better idea nd mindset.

Our issue here, is that we are figuring out that there is some aspect of the sea and the weather being either preordained or steered by someone or something. That we are finding out that there is a falsified and unnatural (whatever natural means) Neptune of the Sea of some sort and that they may not have our best interests at heart. that this 'Neptune', that is moving about the backdrop itself.. for their desires and aims, not ours.

If it can be identified as a shape, an influence....it can be found, it can be quantified... and it can be solved as mysteries go- and it can be corrected for.

[Lone Bean]

I loved the dolphin metaphor! I saw them swimming and playing so clearly in my mind as if i were really there with them. Thanks Bill!
Lately though, I've been going back and forth first feeling that something BIG is going to happen this year, and then swinging back the other way feeling nothing is going to change for the better, and that I'll still be wondering what's going to happen next in the year 2014, 15, 16, etc...... It seems like so many earth-changing predictions keep getting delayed or postponed until further and further into the future especially predictions by non-mainstream economists. I've heard that our economy is about to collapse for the last 3+ years and yet it doesn't. I'm sorry if I sound anxious for it to happen, but I feel it will be one of the most important ending points of the current paradigm we've been enslaved too for the last 5000 years. Once it crashes, from the ashes can a new and free system emerge.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Thanks Bill, but I ask, what do you personally believe is going to happen over the next 6-9 months??

I ask myself this question on almost a daily basis. And I just do not know. I have many guesses, I have many hopes, scarcely any fears however.

Is it perhaps an increase in social unrest, complete economic collapse, something even catastrophic... or something remarkable?

Ever see that show 'Doomsday Preppers'? It's currently showing over here on I think NatGeo. Many believe wholeheartedly that some sort of end, or at least cataclysm, is coming, and they are preparing to 'bug out'. Fortunes are being spent on bunkers, in stockpiling every kind of provision imaginable, including weapons. Oh, many, many weapons.

They live in a paradigm of fear.

I have no stockpile of food or supplies. I am not prepared, and I will bear no arms. Perhaps I'm naive, or perhaps I know that I won't need any of that...

[Heartsong]

I've been feeling like my storms have passed....perhaps a few blustery days ahead but nothing I can't handle.

[Jake]

Yes, that is correct. It is never too late to start. Indeed, it is not accident that you are right here, right now! I am very excited, and approach those questions in the spirit of joy, as opposed to the spirit of fear or confusion. Do ALL of the things that you can, because once on the other side of the veil,,, you are going to wish that you did.

1) Yes, I am doing what I came to do.
2) No, You are right, Bill. There is always more. Much more.

I am putting my faith in the same world that (at many times) I have loathed. Love for the world around me, starts with with the love I have within myself. I work hard at shedding layers and doing the work that will make me a better person. I don't necessarily see the same work being done by everyone around me. That is okay,,, I will be there for them, when the time comes. We will all need each other, before the end.

I have always been a bleating heart,, a dreamer. Yet, as I look back,, My dreams have all come true. It is about the experience and creation of self, and reality is created around you. I am excited.

It is time we quit 'clinging to the rocks and twigs', and Let Go! The current may take us downstream, and it may get bumpy,, but,,, Damn, what a ride!!!

Love to all. Jake.

[truth4me]

We must rely on our inter strength. Get spiritual strong within yourself. We know something is going to happen for we feel it and the question is what's the "something"? This passed weekend the Senate overwhelmingly approved a resolution to stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. A 90-1 vote the measure was introduced by that warmonger Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham also Democratic Sen. Bob Casey and Independent Sen.Joe Lieberman.

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Now to me they are setting the table with war with Iran and that could very well be the "something" coming our way...

[WhiteFeather]

Well put Bill. And in fact can we stop the so called storm/timeline from occurring just being in a positive state of consciousness thus holding the line together.
I believe many have incarnated here to help Earth. And as Dolores Cannon states. The call went out to the universe and many have heard the call and volunteered (incarnated here) to assist Mother Earth.

[Lazlo]

The time frame of impending disruption is what I find personally interesting.

Three years I was living in Northern California and there was an anxiety in my life, telling me to be "somewhere else." I was caught up in in prepping and doom porn. I packd up and headed for an interim location until the right answer was provided by universe. I finally made it to where I am now, and the anxiety is gone. It's not as if I don't think that something wicked this way comes, it's just that I am no longer concerned with it. I have stopped surfing the net for posts and articles that "confirmed" my suspicions about the future, and with the exception of my occasional check-ins here at Avalon, I no longer bother. I've even deleted most of my bookmarks to alt sites.

I spend my time now doing things I enjoy, and planning for vacation, and where I will spend the holidays, working on hobbies, and what I will be putting in the garden next spring. Anything but worrying about "whatever" it is just over the horizon.

Why the change in perspective? Is it because I am where the universe intended me to be, or is it simply that I've reached my limit on the amount of junk that I can process (admit it...95% of everything you see in the alt community is nonsense and a waste of time)

Either way, I am happy, and choose to enjoy life. When "whatever" comes, I will have fond memories of the time before, not regrets that I spent my time worrying.

Am I doing what I was sent here to do? I think so.

Am I doing enough? Again, I think so. I have a socially responsible job, I provide for my family, and I help those around me who need it.

Surf's up!!!

[Cjay]

Do I know why I am here? Yes. Thanks, in part, to a thread in this forum asking "why are you here?"

Am I doing what I came here to do? Yes. I am not quite ready to make a public announcement but the Melbourne (Australia) Avalonians know a lot about the five (or more) inter-related projects. The projects are good for the Earth and good for humanity.

Am I doing enough? Not yet but a large team is assembling and mind-bogglingly large amounts of money are being made available to assist.

Stay tuned...

[Laura Elina]

I know I'm here, because I have a profound love for Earth (and not only because of its exquisite beauty), but because of humanity, there are some great things in storage for the human kind, (and perhaps some devastating things as well, but like they ask... How do you eat an elephant? A bite by bite).

I wanna take that ride, I have a lot invested here (I am quite sentimental and get attached, which are some of my downfalls), there is nothing like being on a planet that is about to experience a renaissance, it will be a proud moment and quite emotional, when we recognize ourselves in the mirror, the about to part will take some heavy midwifing from all of us, the glory of humans will lie in our ability to preserve the planet for the children of tomorrow (and I ain't coming back to a dusty planet, lol. Just kidding, I would and I will). It will take time and it might feel like you're digging a ditch across the country, but it's worth it.

* I know what I'm supposed to do this time around and a part of it I've done... And the rest I'm afraid to do (my husband is hounding me for it, it's about finishing a book), I believe the way I phrased it in my book was that "I'm not a person, I'm just an impersonator", I do hold myself back (has a lot to do with the life I had before this one). A work in progress :)

* I am barely doing enough, guilty as charged.

To Lone Bean (and everyone else including myself): You are the earth changing prediction waiting to come true.

Much love,

Laura

[Kindred]

I'm particularly drawn to the sailing analogy. We ARE the Crew of Starship Earth. She's a Beautiful and Amazing Ship of State. We have only to look after Her well-being, and she will look after ours.

Our rulers have done terrible misdeeds to her, using Us as their pawns in their game of self-aggrandizement, and Gaia's destruction. We've blindly followed them, our minds twisted and turned by them in innumerable ways so as to keep us distracted from Reality and the well-being of our Mother.

It's Time for us to Grow Up and show our Mother the Love and Reverence She is well deserving of.

I recently wrote a piece using this same sailing analogy... here's the link:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48854-Sacred-Knowledge-Of-Vibrations-And-The-Power-Of-Human-Emotion&p=542831#post542831

In Unity, Peace and Love

[Rocky_Shorz]

I just finished writing a story of what we are here to do and as I moved the mouse to post...

the machine restarted for an update...

I guess it's a little to early to say... ;)


I am glad looking around seeing the faces of all who have joined us for this roller coaster ride...


looks up at the crows nest and see Bill's grin under his Hat...

[Lifebringer]

I came today to ask everyone to focus healing energy on Robin Roberts who underwent a bone marrow transplant. She's a good fun loving soul that has always been respectful and truthful in reporting. We need more like her and I hope everyone here sends her love and healing light during this time for her.



Thank you.
PS for those who don't know her name, she is the Good Morning America Host and she's African American, I believe the only one, but either way, please pray.

[christian]

Am I doing what I came here to do?
Am I doing enough?


a) Generally yes, but during virtually any mission the initial plan has to be adjusted to some degree -- but that may well have been known and part of the plan right from the beginning; being flexible.

b) From the Dao De Jing:


The Master doesn't try to be powerful;
thus he is truly powerful.
The ordinary man keeps reaching for power;
thus he never has enough.

The Master does nothing,
yet he leaves nothing undone.
The ordinary man is always doing things,
yet many more are left to be done.

The kind man does something,
yet something remains undone.
The just man does something,
and leaves many things to be done.
The moral man does something,
and when no one responds
he rolls up his sleeves and uses force.

When the Tao is lost, there is goodness.
When goodness is lost, there is morality.
When morality is lost, there is ritual.
Ritual is the husk of true faith,
the beginning of chaos.

Therefore the Master concerns himself
with the depths and not the surface,
with the fruit and not the flower.
He has no will of his own.
He dwells in reality,
and lets all illusions go.

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If you realize that you have enough,
you are truly rich.

I just think it's important to point out, that simply striving for more will not indefenitely increase one's productivity, which really does happen through a complex (inner alchemical) process that also requires a fair amount of 'letting go' or meditation. So sometimes 'doing enough' can at times mean 'not being engaged in particular activities'.

Self-talk like "I'm not doing enough" is negative NLP in my opinion. It's not about whether or not this particular assessment is 'true', but about; does this kind of self-talk help you to do more? (I'm sure to some degree it does, but) to change the status quo it's important to focus on the state you wanna be in, like: There are always abundant possibilities for me to get involved and my actions help me and the collective with becoming empowered and self-responsible -- and it happens in sufficient amounts right in time.

This thought of 'never enough' feels kind of uncomfortable to me. And when I'm in that state, I'm not as effective as I am, when I focus on abundance. It's good to initially realize that our individual and collective development is up to ourselves and that we need to do more and take action. But by now I feel that things flow even more easily when I focus on doing enough to help myself and others right now.

[sirdipswitch]

Yes to both.

All is well.

All is one.

I am one.

[Billy]

Great advice Bill.

Nobody said it was going to be an easy ride. I ask myself often if i could do better and Yes is always my answer.
I believe if we can all stick together over this next year, we can ride this out and come through the other end victorious.

And in peace.

[Wind]

It is wonderful to be on this exciting journey right now here on planet Earth! I'm sure that we will make through it, in a way or another. We are part of the Creation, so there is really nothing to be afraid of. It's just a ride. :)

All is well.

[jiix]

Great post, thank you Bill!

I needed to read something like this right now :)

[syrwong]

I think getting a purely intellectual understanding and awakening is grossly inadequate at this point. Becoming emotionally involved with the present world situation is a good step toward doing something useful, like to get angry with the deceit and injustice, and wars and killings, the way Gerald Celente did in this great interview.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc7s0julqH4&feature

[Sidney]

Bill, For those of us (and I really hope I am not the only one here) who don't know why we are here, what do you recommend? Because, I am feeling very lost lately. I know that I am here for a specific purpose. I get that. I just don't know what it is.and I feel time is slipping through my fingers, and I am not fulfilling my duty. Could it be that some of us are suppose to just "be"? I have wasted a lot of energy and anxiety on this very topic.

[Agape]

Residing in primordial chaos of endless ocean of existence ,

temple is a boat

and single salesman at the wheel is looking forwards to seeing horizon unobscured by clouds ..

the day will come when we all will see our missions accomplished .


:tea:

[sleepy]

xxxxx xxxxx

[Rocky_Shorz]

4th SuperTyphoon rolling between China and Japan since the argument over a rock...

whistles innocently

[Swanette]

I think getting a purely intellectual understanding and awakening is grossly inadequate at this point. Becoming emotionally involved with the present world situation is a good step toward doing something useful, like to get angry with the deceit and injustice, and wars and killings, the way Gerald Celente did in this great interview.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc7s0julqH4&feature


You are right Syrwong, that is a great interview! Hopefully he is waking up a few(million?) peeps out there. ;)

[mescalitto]

Thank you for that positive message Bill, i feel i am almost looking forward to it ;)
Its all about preparing ourselves and doing our homework , none of us can be certain as to what beholds us but even the smallest boat can ride out the biggest waves if we are poised and looking to see which direction the wave comes.

[Mike]

i recall Charles saying something to the effect that when the public catches on to a "plan" of the cabal, those plans are usually shelved for a later date. makes me wonder if all this upheaval we're expecting won't happen till right around December 22 or so, right when everyone is exhaling at the site of a world still in one piece. then...bam.

it would be in keeping with their sick, sadistic sense of humor, i think.

no, i'm not doing what i should be doing, whatever that is. still haven't figured out what i want to do when i grow up. i read something interesting somewhere once, that basically said that if one continually refuses to utilize their God-given gifts and refuses to engage the universe and it's inhabitants, that person will eventually find life to be very unpleasant. in other words, due to their stubborn refusal to play the game, they are weeded out through some sort of cosmic distillation process. sounds macabre, but i tend to believe it.

[Paranormal]

I hope nothing will happen. I hope for the best. But I prepare for the worst!

[OBwan]

Am I doing what I came here to do?

The question has many different categories and I could answer “Yes or No” to for a given area. I choose to find ways to replace the fear with trust in the categories where I have answered “No”.

As I live my life choosing to see through the illusions of fear, the results is a greater sense of self-appreciation. The words, “Love thy neighbor as thyself,” when rearranged to say, “Love thyself as thy neighbor,” causes more loving thought processes to occur. Loving yourself more allows you to love your neighbor more.

Self Appreciation

What is the underlying fear associated with self-appreciation? The author Marianne Williamson, in her 1992 book, Return to Love, answers this question.



Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.
Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us.
We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, and fabulous?
Actually, who are you not to be?
You are a child of God.

Your playing small does not serve the world.
There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you.
We are all meant to shine, as children do.
We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us.

It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone.
And as we let our own light shine,
we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.
As we are liberated from our own fear,
our presence automatically liberates others.

Am I doing enough?

Choosing to be loving person in as many moments as possible is how I evaluate myself. I choose to live my life from the monkey story below.

The Hundredth Monkey

When you walk into a room that is dark and you turn on the light, the room becomes illuminated. Darkness does not go into the light, light goes into the darkness. This is basic physics. The words, “Love conquers all” can be explained same way. What if your thoughts of love and peace were vastly more powerful than your thoughts of hatred and anger?

In the book, The Hundredth Monkey, by Ken Keyes Jr., he discusses how thoughts of one connect with the thoughts of another. This study of monkeys was done on an island. They were given sweet potatoes on the beach. One monkey figured out that by washing the potato in the salt water, it removed the grit, added salt, and increased the flavor.

That monkey taught another monkey to wash sweet potatoes. He taught another, who taught another, and so on. Soon all the monkeys on the island were washing potatoes. When the "hundredth" monkey learned to wash potatoes, suddenly, spontaneously, and mysteriously, monkeys on other islands, with no physical contact with the potato-washing group, started washing potatoes! This phenomenon shows that when enough of us are aware of something, all of us become aware of it.

Washing potatoes at a restaurant

There is a server at a local a restaurant I frequent who is a loving person. She interacts with the customers in ways that is beyond the normal customer service. One day a lady came into the restaurant and was out-of-sorts. As this server stopped by to check on needs such as drinks, she interacted in a loving and supportive way. Six months later the lady returned to have lunch. She was in a completely different emotional state. As a thank you for the interaction on the first visit, the server was given a handmade afghan. The customer never came back.

It was this same server who introduced me to another lady customer who had been grieving the loss of her daughter for nine years. Using the NLP grief resolution process, I guided the lady to the end of the grieving. The next morning the lady awoke without the feelings of loss. Simple acts of love that impact positively the lives others inspire me to evaluate my interactions with others. I love stories like these for they show the power of a loving perspective.

Who Knows?

Maybe my thinking is not truth of factual based. For me, the above words have inspired me to do things that allow me to think from a possibility and love perspective.

[Kiforall]

I believe each of us knows which one we're going to choose. I'm on board, well positive +++++++++++++++++ve
It's the ones that question it at the moment of 'impact' that will be ------------------------------ve
An equal balance...... good and evil, man and woman, human and alien, before and after. Then you choose.
You choose the one that feels right to you, believe me you can't be wrong.
If you were given the choice to live or die with present negativity as it is, even 50/50 of them would make the right choice to themselves for the good of 1. Which by the way is 2

Is that classed as a spiritual rant?

[avid]

What am I here to do? To look after aged parents! To ensure their safety and comfort in their later years. Now I have had to leave them in the care of neighbours and professional carers as I am physically ill due to multiple hernias lifting wheelchairs etc. I am waiting for operation asap! I organise food from afar. But I just cannot get there for them at the moment Bill - what am I supposed to do? In all conscience - I MUST save them and protect them. If we have a terrible earth-shattering problem they will be left to die a terrible death, I just can't envision the guilt and ineptitude most of us will feel that our elderly loved ones cannot be maintained. Hopefully I will get well enough to go 'home' to them asap, but this perpetual 'doom and gloom' is not conducive to anyone's mental positivity. Let's just get on with our lives as best as we can, and prepare for as much as we can in the circumstances.....

[Rocky_Shorz]

....

Sounds like you need a Huggg!!!


group (((hugg))) for avid!!!!

[wobbegong]

Thankyou Bill for this thread and for some news about George Green.
Personally I believe I know what I am meant to do today, and am figuring out what I will need to do tomorrow, and so on, while the picture gets clearer day by day, but I think the full picture of my calling will be available to me only at the end of my life, and only if I will have carried out what I incarnated here to do. So the question about "doing enough" is really crucial too: on one hand I agree about the fact that "it's never enough", or perhaps "it's never too much", but what's even harder is getting it right about doing what I am specifically menat to do here, on this planet, in this body.
Here is a relevant quote from the book The Great Waves of Change:
"Your future largely depends upon you and the strength that you were born with, the strength that must now come to the fore in the Knowledge that God has placed within you, which alone knows the way forward. For the great times are upon you. This is your time. This is your calling. This is where your real strength will be found."

[truthseekerdan]

One has to make sure it stays grounded in the 'eye' of the storm (hurricane) -- where all is calm and well...

[mosquito]

What I posted on the George Green thread is also highly relevant here :



I've been feeling a sense of needing to break free of various shackles, feeling that familiar urge for change rise up inside of me. There are lots of things which have contributed to this, not least being a new (ish) relationship, which is developing beautifully.

I've been wondering how I can become more creative in my life, more expressive of the essence which is me; how I can put all that I've learned and all that I am into practice; how to help us get from where we are now to the place of abundance and joy that eludes so many of our fellow Earthlings; how to manifest heaven on Earth, but this time round actually maintain it.

During my QiGong practice this morning, I felt what can only be described as energetic bind-weed falling away from me, so I'm ready for whatever comes, without fear.


To go along with the sailing analogy - I ofetn go through phases of feeling adrift, like a rudderless ship. I'm now beginning to feel like the rudder's been repaired and the wind is picking up to fill my sails !!

[danimyl]

1 Sort Of.
2 Not even close

When you see people living up to their capacity it makes you appreciate just how much a single person is capable of. But this takes a foundation of being able to function in the world. The ones achieving the most are capable of maintaining great balance at the mundane needs of life. Without that platform you can forget about your mission, purpose, etc. Think of it like 4 Pillars that hold up this foundation. Health, Relationships, Work, Spiritual Advancement. If any of them are out of balance then what greater accomplishments can you really balance on that table? This mundane facility is really the ground that our greater work springs from. We can't escape it. A life of high spirituality is just a fool's dream if it's not grounded in this reality and focused on really serving people and the world.


Boiling it down. Is the world even meant to be changed, or to be individually transcended?

Ultimately, yes the world is a learning environment where we can experience the choice to end separation from God or not. But in the immediate term it really would be a shame to lose this gem of a planet to one or both of the catastrophic thresholds of change we find ourselves at: the Great Waves of change, and the emergence of the world into the greater panorama of intelligent life.


I've heard that our economy is about to collapse for the last 3+ years and yet it doesn't. I'm sorry if I sound anxious for it to happen, but I feel it will be one of the most important ending points of the current paradigm we've been enslaved too for the last 5000 years. Once it crashes, from the ashes can a new and free system emerge.

I've fallen into this same mindset so many times. But our first glimpses at the true impact of economic collapse, social unrest, agricultural failure, and resource wars are going to be a stark reminder that the systems were actually functioning far more than we appreciated.


I've been feeling like my storms have passed....perhaps a few blustery days ahead but nothing I can't handle.

May it be so! Still gonna be hard work.


I am putting my faith in the same world that (at many times) I have loathed. Love for the world around me, starts with with the love I have within myself.

Ahhh. I'm with you there! What a change to recognize the true need for service to humanity.


I'm sure that we will make through it, in a way or another. We are part of the Creation, so there is really nothing to be afraid of. It's just a ride.

At the end of creation, this will be true enough. In the moment, the ride is going to feel real enough. No the world can't hurt our deeper selves. But there's so many people out there that don't have this understanding and are going to need help.


Could it be that some of us are suppose to just "be"? I have wasted a lot of energy and anxiety on this very topic.

Not likely. Why would you go to all the trouble of coming into this difficult existence? Just to be a passive observer? There are things you know you need to do today. Or yesterday. Do them and tomorrow you'll know something else. God isn't going to hand you a purpose you have no chance of fulfilling. This would be crushing to the mind.


Here is a relevant quote from the book The Great Waves of Change:
"Your future largely depends upon you and the strength that you were born with, the strength that must now come to the fore in the Knowledge that God has placed within you, which alone knows the way forward. For the great times are upon you. This is your time. This is your calling. This is where your real strength will be found."

Now you're talking my language. Nasi Novare Coram. "May the presence of the Teachers be with us."

[ghostrider]

I am here to learn and experience life , and grow to another step in evolution , transition back to spirit for 152 years then re-incarnate live again and eventually get to the place where I never again need a physical body to exist, only living as a spirit/creation to move on to create other universes and join group collectives building worlds in other dimensions. Everything else in my reality is just noise.

[Carmen]

I am here to show others earth healing techniques that work but are also profitable. This is part of what I am here to do. I have also been setting up my farm to be a gathering place should disaster struck. It is the designated sector point for civil defence. Actually I believe Kurow is the only town in New Zealand to have a comprehensive rescue plan in place! We have three large dams up river from Kurow so a plan is very necessary. We have plenty of "can do" people in the area which is a plus. I've been collecting woollen blankets for years without really knowing 'why'!!

[Finefeather]

There is no one solution that fits all and the most important thing in your life at this moment, is to accept the fact that you are now in the exact place that you have worked so hard to be in.
Everything is going according to your current plan and whatever that plan is, only you will know deep inside you. You have thought about your life and you have mulled it around in your head possibly many times and the plan that you have chosen is the exact one you are now been successful at. There is no failure,...even in our greatest moments of pain and distress, when we have worked so hard to achieve that which we are now experiencing.
If you want to change your plan you must create for yourself a new plan and as we know plans are based on goals, goals which we may have forgotten a long time ago on earth or more likely before your current life. The important thing to be able to assess is whether you are still on that original plan, or are you just on a temporary diversion, and that some time in the not too distant future, you will resume your original plan for your chosen goal?...or have you actually lost your way, and are you just making little plans to get you from one day to another?
If you have no goal you have no place to aim your efforts at and life has no meaning.
Love to all
Ray

[Tony]

We all have certain attributes and capacities, more or less. Each tiny moment of love radiates outwards like a virus, unfortunately so does the dark virus of selfishness.
At every moment 'Light' is shining on us to activate our attributes and capacities, more or less, for the benefit of all. Unfortunately, the dark selfishness gets in the way and diverts the "LIGHT".

What is important is just playing our part, more or less. The good virus has a chain reaction, we are all links. Unfortunately we can join a bad virus, and get a chain reaction.

The 'LIGHT" shining on us, be it large or small has the intention of uniting us for the good of all. Do not think you are insignificant, you are part of this whole process.
If the "LIGHT" is shining...trust it! I have actually seen how a small questions...an outburst...an inner conflict shared, activate love in others.

Be a little more spontaneous and let go, there may be more at stake than you think! Don't let darkness interfere with your LIGHT.

[Lone Bean]

I hope nothing will happen. I hope for the best. But I prepare for the worst!

I agree, but what, specifically is "preparing"? Is it storing food, water, medicine, weapons, etc....for when the golden horde comes looking for food and other stuff, and when gangs of looters come trolling your neighborhoods? If the economy collapses and it seems destined too sooner or later, then we will see the true character of many of our neighbors and people in general fully blossom. I'm all for spiritual preparations too....trying to get closer to whatever is your Higher Power, connecting with others who are more spiritually attuned, etc...but when the rubber meets the road and all "heyall" breaks loose if you haven't stored at least a month or so of extra food and water can you live off of your spirituality? My motto (from AA) is, "Do the footwork and leave the results to God". I have to at least do some things (the footwork) towards keeping ourselves not only alive but as comfortable as possible if and when the big catastrophe occurs. Are any of you making preparations in case of an economic collapse?

Btw, I love Gerald Celente. He says it like he sees it!

[confused]

Bill, For those of us (and I really hope I am not the only one here) who don't know why we are here, what do you recommend? Because, I am feeling very lost lately. I know that I am here for a specific purpose. I get that. I just don't know what it is.and I feel time is slipping through my fingers, and I am not fulfilling my duty. Could it be that some of us are suppose to just "be"? I have wasted a lot of energy and anxiety on this very topic.


I know exactly how you feel...

[G.Deluca]

this reminds me that i still have to watch the bourne films :D

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Bill, For those of us (and I really hope I am not the only one here) who don't know why we are here, what do you recommend? Because, I am feeling very lost lately. I know that I am here for a specific purpose. I get that. I just don't know what it is.and I feel time is slipping through my fingers, and I am not fulfilling my duty. Could it be that some of us are suppose to just "be"? I have wasted a lot of energy and anxiety on this very topic.

Just some thoughts: Is it possible that just some have specific goals such as healer, writer, etc., which will effect the many, while the rest have the goal of simply touching those around us. Something that sounds simple and unimportant - such as smiling meaningfully at as many as you can each day or setting an example of non-judgment, shifting the energy in an argument between relatives. I think you get my point.

It's always been a dream, hope, prayer of mine that if every day each one of us could be a little better than we were the day before - it doesn't have to be earth shattering, something as simple as resisting the temptation of gossip or reaching out a hand to someone even if you 'think' that don't deserve it, buying a cup of coffee for a homeless person, etc. If we each did this every day, with a good heart, imagine the effect it could have.

I have always seen consciousness as a stream that we all pull from and we all put into. Are you polluting the stream with negative thoughts or are you purifying the stream with positive ones. Perhaps it's the job of all of us together to help with the purification of this great river - and no more than that.

[GloriousPoetry]

God's Romantic Play is about creation and all of the various parts we play in our divine revelation, prophets speak of an inner wisdom that frees while disciples breed their continual deeds and healers meet where spirit leads.........I feel and believe my part is of the healer.......I am still working on attracting all of the right elements to dive into my work in this world but when all is in place I am certain my work will be marvelous........in the meantime nurturing the space and vision for this to arrive in my life is a must.

GLORIA

[4evrneo]

I have actually seen how a small questions...an outburst...an inner conflict shared, activate love in others.

Be a little more spontaneous and let go, there may be more at stake than you think! Don't let darkness interfere with your LIGHT.

I am certainly a witness to seeing the love activated in others and has affected me profoundly. Some days I am in awe of the light that shines from the beautiful souls here.

[BrianEn]

Hard questions to answer. Id like to think yes, but will learn more during my life review. Till then Ill keep putting my foot in front of the other.

[CD7]

Bill, For those of us (and I really hope I am not the only one here) who don't know why we are here, what do you recommend? Because, I am feeling very lost lately. I know that I am here for a specific purpose. I get that. I just don't know what it is.and I feel time is slipping through my fingers, and I am not fulfilling my duty. Could it be that some of us are suppose to just "be"? I have wasted a lot of energy and anxiety on this very topic.




I know exactly how you feel...


Ditto three....this is why I consider RE membering self BEFORE anyone/thing told,read,on tv,in a book,seminar,grandma,auntie,teacher,priest,minister,internet,THE book tells me Who what where and how I AM


Ya know Tried and True RECALL of ones Own Knowing.... without such an event we are stumbling in the dark

[Conchis]

Starchild,

You are not alone. I know I am here to love, I get that, but I don't know what else I should be doing. Maybe we are on a need to know basis and when we need to know, we will. Good luck on your journey.

sleepy

This post reminds me of the last line of Finnegan's Wake..the great circular book that in some ways lays out everything. "a lone a last a loved a long the"

I think I'm doing exactly what I was meant to be doing. I think the original post here is right on the money. It's all part of the adventure, even if it is an incredible trial it wouldn't be much fun if it were all easy.

"riverun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay..."

[JoseB]

Amigos,

I definitely agree to Bill's statements we are here to help. Spreading information to other people about our true nature and the time we've chosen to incarnate has a very important meaning thru this times. Now is that time to boost our efforts and really help others focus on whats coming and how to prepare for those events. Now is the time to be proactive and focused on all the experience and knowledge gained. Its never too late.

[DeDukshyn]

Awesome post Bill!

I'm gonna go out on a branch and say there are some here (including me) who would add one question to the list:


Am I loving what I am doing?



My 2 cents ;)

[wobbegong]

...

Could it be that some of us are suppose to just "be"? I have wasted a lot of energy and anxiety on this very topic.

Not likely. Why would you go to all the trouble of coming into this difficult existence? Just to be a passive observer? There are things you know you need to do today. Or yesterday. Do them and tomorrow you'll know something else. God isn't going to hand you a purpose you have no chance of fulfilling. This would be crushing to the mind.

Well said, I resonate with this passage from the book Steps to Knowledge:
"...It is not a mere chance circumstance that you arrived in this world.
Your life is necessary. If you could but recall what you went
through to come into this world and the preparation that was
required—both within this world and beyond—for you to emerge
here, then you would realize the importance of your being here and
the importance of the Knowledge that you carry within you.Your life
is necessary.There is no form of conceit here. ..."
Nasi Novare Coram, my friend, may the Unseen Forces for the Good assist us.

[gripreaper]

George Costanza ponders his options:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LCggmsCXk4

[Chip]

Well said
Funny, I was thinking about this same thing today before reading this. My thoughts were "what will be my role" "how can I help" and "what do I do".
Then I remembered the Psalm (23). Although I don't consider myself religious I do appreciate the "essence" of all the teachings. And the thought of "ye tho I walk through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil", gave me something to ponder and appreciate with regards to my earlier quiery.
I like to think of the changes that are going to be taking place as a "violent awakening". There will still be those who need to be "herded" albeit by TPTB but rather the likes of you and me. Ah, finally the coin is flipped and we are in favor. Many will be confused and need help by those that know that this change is absolutly necessary.
Just my thoughts
"all is truly Well"

[Mandala]

Wow Bill, what an interesting and timely post. I now know why I'm here and it's more simple than I could have foreseen . I think sometimes we may expect more, over think a situation, or spend all of our time dwelling on the greater good. In retrospect this is what I now know:

Well at least we have jobs; my husband lost his
Thank goodness the house is in good shape; the roof started major leaking
All the appliances are working; every single one starting breaking
My cell phone is in good condition; it was stolen
I have my computer and Avalon; my computer totally crashed
I have my work computer and 7 years of work and research for my work and towards a book I'm working on; crashed backup stolen
My car is 12 years old but very dependable; call the tow truck
And so on and on
However; I am here to work with kids, to teach JOY, hope, love and smiles. I can lose all the technology, possessions and anything that may make life easier, but joy comes from the heart, and that is abundant and I share so willingly. I didn't realize what an impact it made until kids begin telling me, I love seeing you each day, you make me happy.

And you know, they make me happy too.

[MargueriteBee]

I am close to finishing up an agreement. This is the third and last fullfillment of agreements for now. Next year it's Vilcabamba for me! I deserved some R&R!!!! I will arrive in my perfect timing.

[Midnight]

So this is bill's latest thread warning us that the manure is almost for sure going to hit the fan in the next few months. This thread started with Bill saying, "I'm as certain as I can be that in the next 6 to 9 months, etc.".

But the details of this looming catastrophe are missing. Maybe Bill promised to not reveal the details of the coming difficulties, but why would he do this? If whistleblowers names aren't part of the testimony, then what harm can come their way?

Could it be that it is wise to not be too specific about any doom prognosis so as to be able to explain why nothing happened?

Bill might know something we don't know, but if he doesn't identify who told him, and even if he risks future ridicule if his warnings don't come to pass, the right thing to do is to lay all of his cards on the table for all of us little people that don't have the knowledge or the money to move to the southern hemisphere.

[Mandala]

Bill, what do you foresee in the next 6 to 9 months? Is it "gut instinct", or insider trading?

¤=[Post Update]=¤

By that I simply mean the feelings driving you.

[Sidney]

Bill, For those of us (and I really hope I am not the only one here) who don't know why we are here, what do you recommend? Because, I am feeling very lost lately. I know that I am here for a specific purpose. I get that. I just don't know what it is.and I feel time is slipping through my fingers, and I am not fulfilling my duty. Could it be that some of us are suppose to just "be"? I have wasted a lot of energy and anxiety on this very topic.

Just some thoughts: Is it possible that just some have specific goals such as healer, writer, etc., which will effect the many, while the rest have the goal of simply touching those around us. Something that sounds simple and unimportant - such as smiling meaningfully at as many as you can each day or setting an example of non-judgment, shifting the energy in an argument between relatives. I think you get my point.

It's always been a dream, hope, prayer of mine that if every day each one of us could be a little better than we were the day before - it doesn't have to be earth shattering, something as simple as resisting the temptation of gossip or reaching out a hand to someone even if you 'think' that don't deserve it, buying a cup of coffee for a homeless person, etc. If we each did this every day, with a good heart, imagine the effect it could have.

I have always seen consciousness as a stream that we all pull from and we all put into. Are you polluting the stream with negative thoughts or are you purifying the stream with positive ones. Perhaps it's the job of all of us together to help with the purification of this great river - and no more than that.

WOW..Thank you for that analogy. Those are do-able goals done daily, which is not so overwhelming as thinking its something HUGE that I need to be doing. Thanks for taking a load off. Thats a really great starting point.

[Arrowwind]

I woke up this morning thinking of Patrick Geryl... I think I might have been dreaming of him. The thought crossed my mind yesterday that he reminds me of a typical Nazi carichature of a WWII German comander. (and Im editing this now to say that I in no way feel that he is a bad or evil person) I felt an overwhelming sense of pity for him for a moment, his fear and his compusion to warn the world, his feelings of importance and his shutting down to all the pain that his story brings, his stratigies for survival, the shadow that crosses his face. Imagine what is has been like for him living his life living with with he believes that he' knows' to be coming.

The prophecies and the prophets, the gut feelings and intuitions have always there and now we have to add to that the science and the scientists.... projected out into the world by those who believe that they know. They always have been there, those 'knowings' from others and those created within ourselfs. We heed or we look away as the case may be. One thing is for sure, where we are is exactly where we are suppose to be in every given second of experience in our existence and we are as we should be within that every given second of experience. It is only in believing that you lack and are not ready that you fortify yourself with limiting beliefs to meet what ever challenges may or may not come. It is only in thinking that the outcomes your ego projects for yorself are the only truth and the only possiblity for yourself that you get stuck or bound into fear or into limited possibilities.

Each person must respond to their own inner call and what calls me will not be the same that calls you. If you should be standing on the bridge of a ship that is going down perhpas it is only to gather to you those who surround you to give them courage and direction to the ultimate transition... and that may be your work, that may be your overriding soul purpose for that given second in experience. ... what ever it may be, Grasp it fully and live it fully. Dont elude it. Dont shrink from the task. It is a once in a liftetime opportunity. Be ready in your heart for whatever comes and make the most of it.... this fateful day that may or may not come and everyday until then.

[Sidney]

So this is bill's latest thread warning us that the manure is almost for sure going to hit the fan in the next few months. This thread started with Bill saying, "I'm as certain as I can be that in the next 6 to 9 months, etc.".

But the details of this looming catastrophe are missing. Maybe Bill promised to not reveal the details of the coming difficulties, but why would he do this? If whistleblowers names aren't part of the testimony, then what harm can come their way?

Could it be that it is wise to not be too specific about any doom prognosis so as to be able to explain why nothing happened?

Bill might know something we don't know, but if he doesn't identify who told him, and even if he risks future ridicule if his warnings don't come to pass, the right thing to do is to lay all of his cards on the table for all of us little people that don't have the knowledge or the money to move to the southern hemisphere.

Following is Bills OP here................. He DOES NOT say a catastrophe will happen. He says a LOT will happen. I believe him. Because a LOT has already happened. The pressure is building in the proverbial cooker, and all he is saying is if your not aware and prepared, you may just get over-cooked. Many people, not just Bill have "felt" things coming to a head. He is right about perhaps not being safe in the US in the future. i don't feel safe "NOW". I wish I had the means to "VILCABAMBA" or similar safe place, and by safe, you can put whatever definition on it you want, but it does not necessarily mean a physical disaster. The financial depression in the US is closing in on many, and the sun is getting very persnickity, and well the political arena is the icing on that cake. we have a very unstable and unpredictable few years ahead of us, and we had better strap in and understand this is a roller coaster we are on , not the sky ride.


Bills Post

Dear All:

I'm as certain as I can be that in the next 6-9 months quite a lot is going to happen that may require us to get our life jackets on (routine and sensible when ocean sailing), work together well, and safeguard our energy, resources and well-being until the storm is over.

Like sailing at sea, storms are not to be feared -- just to be handled. If one wanted to avoid storms, one should not be at sea at all. Here we are all on this planet this lifetime, and it wasn't a mistake. You chose to be here. You have a mission to accomplish.

If you have a good boat and a good crew, then it's simply an adventure ... and, as a spin-off, a test and learning experience for everyone.

It can be a great deal of fun. Nothing trivial is intended by that statement. As spiritual beings, we're all fun-loving dolphins swimming in the universal sea... and sometimes we find ourselves trapped in nets which we have to get out of. That's part of the adventure, too.

The only real problem is remembering your mission. Not easy with Jason-Bourne-amnesia. Look for clues all around you: people you know, people you meet, the things that "happen to you", the coincidences and synchronicities, and what energizes you and keeps capturing your attention.

Then make a guess at what you might be here to do, and start right now -- if you're not already well on your way.

You didn't come here just to watch the show. You're also in the movie, and can change its course. That's why you're here.

Ask yourself these two questions today:
Am I doing what I came here to do?
Am I doing enough?
(Of interest: my own answers to the above are (a) Yes, and (b) No, there's always more.)


My warmest wishes to everyone -- Bill

[Ba-ba-Ra]

What if Tomorrow Never Comes - how would you live today differently? Are you happy with your relationships? Is there something different you could do today that would change them? We all talk about the power of now, but ask yourself, are you truly using it (this moment) in the best possible way?




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1_I2_SItqc&feature=player_embedded

[DropD]

I have thought about this in depth and I realise I am a 2nd waver, by Dolores Cannon's explanation. I love people, I'm loyal but I have an uncanny tendency of pissing people off.

I am here, to be here. Many love me, many don't. Hard to take sometimes but I don't stop being here, spreading truth.

When I say spreading truth, I mean on a very small level, with immediate people, helping them to understand that they have been conditioned. I'm a member of this forum to try and learn a new approach, because, well 'you're full of ****' doesn't tend too work much. I remember a thread about allowing your life to be a friction, this is my purpose and it can be hard to live with... This is why I'm here, to learn a better mode of communication.

[ENIGMAggie]

"She wasn't where she had been. She wasn't where she was going…but she was on her way. And on her way she enjoyed food that wasn't fast, friendships that held, hearts glowing, hearts breaking, smiles that caught tears, paths trudged and alleys skipped. And on her way she no longer looked for the answers, but held close the two things she knew for sure. One, if a day carried strength in the morning, peace in the evening, and a little joy in between, it was a good one…and two, you can live completely without complete understanding." ~ Jodi Hills

Hard for those of us who wish to know/understand EVERYTHING. ;)

Sometimes you don't know what you're "there" to do until the moment arrives.

Meg

[Midnight]

If you had the financial means to move to the southern hemisphere because of something that you believe was going to happen, would that something be a small or moderate something? Would minor or moderate events motivate such a huge move? Leaving your culture, your language, your home? I don't think so.

Call it a catastrophe or call it a storm, but Bill believes something big and dangerous is coming our way, and by being in the Southern Hemisphere, the worst of it MIGHT be avoided.

Do I think a "storm" or catastrophe is coming this way? I don't know. I doubt it, but I'm just a guy sitting in front of a computer. And Bill has his sources. I will be curious about the truth until my last breath, and beyond.

[Anchor]

I think that one must act to work around scenarios where one is perpetually worrying if they are doing the right or wrong thing. Let go of fear.

The service George Green offers in my opinion is two fold, even though the data is, I am sure for some found to be tantalizingly low on detail and specifics.

1) Develops your antennae. It makes your antennae prick up. That's good. You need to get those feelers out there and start to learn to pay attention to what they are telling you and what your inner voice is telling you. Specific data would not do this.

2) Working through this and any associated fear develops the faith necessary to act on your own data knowing it is reliable. Not Bill's. Not George Green. Not Mine. Faith in ourselves, our eternal nature, our connection with all creation and that all is well; if strong enough overcomes all those lower minded doubts and fears.

Unfortunately there is always a risk that information like this is seen as fear mongering.

From some it may be. From George Green I doubt it is fear mongering. From Bill I doubt it too.

In fact the more specific the data you are given (via the media/internet) about what is going to happen, the more suspect I may be inclined to find it. Do you feel manipulated? Consider rejecting anything that you feel is manipulation.

The fact is that things are changing for the planet. How they change for you, is not going to be the same as how it changes for other people.

Getting this right is basically up to each person individually - but you can and usually must work in like minded groups for the best outcomes possible.

We are eternal beings. What you decide is what you decide. There are no mistakes, only surprises. Not even right or wrong, perhaps just skilful or less than skilful choices.

You can be given misinformation, but if you are misinformed by it - that's on you and no one else.

This wont seem fair to some.

But it is fair.

The highest tests are only given to those with the ability to meet them.

All is well.

[ThePythonicCow]

Call it a catastrophe or call it a storm, but Bill believes something big and dangerous is coming our way, and by being in the Southern Hemisphere, the worst of it MIGHT be avoided.
My guess of what will happen is that there is serious risk of some combination of false flag operations more dramatic than 9/11, economic collapse and/or other excuses to continue increasing the tyrannical control over this nation and continue sucking out the energy of the American people.

If there was a real cosmological threat (our sun going hyper-active or a galactic super-wave or a Planet-X or a real alien invasion, for examples), then so far as I can figure out, they would not know that such a threat was specific to North America.

Therefore to the extent that "they" know that there is a threat that is specific to North America and/or the United States, it's because they are the ones planning it, or at least want us to fear they are planning.

[CD7]

You can be given misinformation, but if you are misinformed by it - that's on you and no one else.


Its on the intentional misinformant and noone else



There may be more to this sentence then youve stated...but nonetheless it struck a cord with me

To me WE are handicapped on MANY levels...there is only so much responsibility--if any at all-- put on a drowning being whos thrown a broken life raft

[RunningDeer]

Beautiful. Thank you, Ba-ba-Ra.
For iPad users, here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1_I2_SItqc


What if Tomorrow Never Comes - how would you live today differently? Are you happy with your relationships? Is there something different you could do today that would change them? We all talk about the power of now, but ask yourself, are you truly using it (this moment) in the best possible way?




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1_I2_SItqc&feature=player_embedded

[sleepy]

[xxxxx xxxxx

[Sidney]

Politically, I would be curious to hear from knowledged folk on the stability in south america, in comparison to the US. My guess is there is much less tyranny there which provides much more security. The words dangerous, and safe can mean many things on many levels. IMO, we americans are imprisoned, financially, politically,spiritually, and are largely dis-informed on as many levels. A(s)nd I agree, if a natural disaster stemming from a solar event is most likely unpredictable as far as what part(s) of the planet would be affected.

[Bill Ryan]

Bill, what do you foresee in the next 6 to 9 months?



A bumpy ride (at least!) economically/financially, and globally. That seems unavoidable. What we don't know is whether or not it will be a bumpy ride for some, or a crash landing for us all wherever we are.

The strong possibility (and continuing, credible leaks from insiders indicate that this is likely) -- of some kind of orchestrated, societal melt-down in the US. This might include the escalation of racial and cultural issues, which justify the military to step in.

I do suspect there will be some extreme solar activity (which has increasingly been reported/warned about in mainstream scientific publications). I was told personally that this is expected by the insider community, but that it's not known quite what damage may be caused.

There are global factions, and people in government both in Israel and in the US, whose dream it is to start a nuclear firestorm in the Middle East. It remains to be seen what, if anything, will happen. There may be a strike against Iran, but if so, then the issue is whether or not it'll all escalate out of control.

[ThePythonicCow]

My hunch is that Bill's post, just above, is spot on.

[ulli]

Politically, I would be curious to hear from knowledged folk on the stability in south america, in comparison to the US. My guess is there is much less tyranny there which provides much more security. The words dangerous, and safe can mean many things on many levels. IMO, we americans are imprisoned, financially, politically,spiritually, and are largely dis-informed on as many levels. A(s)nd I agree, if a natural disaster stemming from a solar event is most likely unpredictable as far as what part(s) of the planet would be affected.

Here is the website of the Tico Times, a Costa Rican weekly, in English.
You may not get the big picture here,
but some idea of what this central American nation is dealing with.

http://www.ticotimes.net/

[Sidney]

Politically, I would be curious to hear from knowledged folk on the stability in south america, in comparison to the US. My guess is there is much less tyranny there which provides much more security. The words dangerous, and safe can mean many things on many levels. IMO, we americans are imprisoned, financially, politically,spiritually, and are largely dis-informed on as many levels. A(s)nd I agree, if a natural disaster stemming from a solar event is most likely unpredictable as far as what part(s) of the planet would be affected.

Here is the website of the Tico Times, a Costa Rican weekly, in English.
You may not get the big picture here,
but some idea of what this central American nation is dealing with.

http://www.ticotimes.net/

I love the proposed ban on sports hunting. I hope it passes, and sets a standard for the planets future. This is something that I grieve over every day.

[pyrangello]

I am a herder and a leader, I know not yet what is above the horizon for my skills but yet I continue on the journey enjoying the beauty of what was created here for us and thanking the universe for it. I can be a warrior or a man who can stop to lean down and smell the most beautiful flower that is coming out of the ground during my path in life. Admire the flower, cherish the beauty, and absorb the brillance in colors.

Creating an atmosphere and making an impact on so many in this lifetime has been a pleasure , being a part of the avalon family since it's inception has been very inspiring and proud, knowing where we are heading is a another challange and hill to conquer with the common goal of bringing more togetherness and love at the end of the day.

Walking and living that path of thought has taught me to be so much more patient than ever, and to control the ego that use to control me. I am doing what I came here for and doing enough is a gesture that comes with an infinate lifespan attached to it. "Laugh and the world laughs with you, cry enough-and you'll be crying alone eventually". Glad to be here on the Avalon mothership for front row seats with some of the bestest around the world, :)

[Eagle Eye]

..........

[Anchor]

You can be given misinformation, but if you are misinformed by it - that's on you and no one else.


Its on the intentional misinformant and noone else



There may be more to this sentence then youve stated...but nonetheless it struck a cord with me

To me WE are handicapped on MANY levels...there is only so much responsibility--if any at all-- put on a drowning being whos thrown a broken life raft

I am not suggesting that there are no consequences for the misinformant.

We are under the illusion we are handicapped on many levels and a lot of that is due to the societal programming you have experienced from your first breath.

What I am trying to express is that it does not have to be that way.

You don't have to be a victim.

In my view this is part and parcel of waking up...

[Arrowwind]

[Here is the website of the Tico Times, a Costa Rican weekly, in English.
You may not get the big picture here,
but some idea of what this central American nation is dealing with.

http://www.ticotimes.net/

Interesting that they have a section dedicated to sustainable living... fat chance you will find that in a leading US paper.

[CD7]

We are under the illusion we are handicapped on many levels


Better said---under illusion, instead of we are....

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Reading the posts above, this is the question that comes to me:

What do I believe about my interaction with and my ability to create the future. Do I believe our futures are a blank slate and we literally create them. Or do I believe that the Universe has a plan and I'm simply a pawn in the plan - or is it a combination of both. But if a combination, what percentage - or better said, how much influence do I actually have - and is this influence only on my own life - or can I actually affect the planet?

I have to admit I have pondered over this for some time - and as I observe my own life and others around me, I have come to see how much power we do have. I have also seen, how the ego sabotages many from seeing what they're doing to create the situations they're in. I actually believe we create at least 90% of what we are experiencing. I've also felt there is something else involved - is it fate, karma?? but IMO it is a relatively small percentage of what's happening to us personally.

But what about our affect on the fate of the planet. Does Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle apply? Does our observing, discussing, contemplating about the future of our planet effect it? Can we literally pray or envision the world we want - and if enough of us do it, could we make a difference. And perhaps all the many groups that are already doing this -are what's keeping things somewhat controlled. Then ask yourself - would there be some measure of disappointment if nothing big happens? So perhaps deep down, this need we have for excitement is creating some of this?

These are just ponderings. I'd love to hear yours.

[golden lady]

The question here is " what we may be here to do" I would like to turn that question around " what are we are here not to do"

tptb are trying to keep us in fear mode, basic survival mode through not just one but many many means. It's coming at us thick and fast.

So I'm not here to play their game. I'm not here to do their bidding.

I will do my very best at not being part of them turning our world into a dark and ugly place, under their control. Their vision of a new world order is not my vision.

To answer Bills questions
*I don't know my specific purpose of being here but I do know I answered " the call" I feel as though I'm waiting in the wings so to speak
* Over the years I've tried to be the best a person can be. I've started with the "
man in the mirror" ( this is always a work in progress)!!

We do have to take personal countability we have to do this now. As David Icke says, we have to get off our knees. This of course takes action. ( I of course mean action with love, compassion and peace in our hearts) We are at the fork in the road. Have i got the courage? Have you? Humanity may depend on it.

Remember we are the ones we've been waiting for
Love ,peace and courage
Carole
countability

[Latti]

Bill, I have a similar premonition. According to many predictions, my location isn't ideal, but it feels right to me. My since is that our problems are from multiple causes although they ,may have a single origin. Since I was born in Appalachia without electricity or indoor pluming I know how to survive without modern infrastructure. I have many skills of hunter/gathers and can help train a new generation in how to survive with few resources.

Also with professional skills in chemistry, metallurgy and construction, my experience and knowledge might be vital to a small group of survivors. The climate changes and lack of adequate sunlight will mean that many crops won't grow for an extended period, but some cold hardy greens will and goats and chickens can survive on dried soybeans and maze for an extended period.

My 2-way radios are just for local contact and won't allow continued contact with Project Avalon members, but If I survive, I'll help others in my immediate area to form the core of a new beginning. My hope and prayer is that the next generation will benefit from the mistakes of our current and past generations to be wiser.

Latti

[CD7]

I have to admit I have pondered over this for some time - and as I observe my own life and others around me, I have come to see how much power we do have. I have also seen, how the ego sabotages many from seeing what they're doing to create the situations they're in. I actually believe we create at least 90% of what we are experiencing. I've also felt there is something else involved - is it fate, karma?? but IMO it is a relatively small percentage of what's happening to us personally.



These things were pondering have many layers...so we'll be discussing bits and pieces

My view of people and how they sabotage each other comes from experiences growing up in life and in large part from my experiences in the social sciences....from the "level" i viewed Our Creation has a great deal of dependency upon which and how many TOOLS we were taught/given examples of growing up. THIS is largely framed upon which family/people one is born into. Again from the level ive seen as a social worker, there are extremely limited resources for help in giving individuals tools to REALLY aid them in their experiences..and this help arrived after youths have already been arrested many times.
The families have gone back generations in most cases of violence and dysfunction, it is highly unrealistic to think they will "appear" tools in their work belt overnight when needed... SO given this is the situation "down here" whats going on above the rung of the ladder??
NO REAL EDUCATION is imparted throughout the community (algebra WTF?)..NO REAL TOOLS are handed out and shown how to use

So when im pondering these things...this is some of the angle im coming from

[Raven]

for those that are interested Clif High has a new SOTTC report our today Sept 30th at Halfpasthuman.com


Bill, what do you foresee in the next 6 to 9 months?



A bumpy ride (at least!) economically/financially, and globally. That seems unavoidable. What we don't know is whether or not it will be a bumpy ride for some, or a crash landing for us all wherever we are.

The strong possibility (and continuing, credible leaks from insiders indicate that this is likely) -- of some kind of orchestrated, societal melt-down in the US. This might include the escalation of racial and cultural issues, which justify the military to step in.

I do suspect there will be some extreme solar activity (which has increasingly been reported/warned about in mainstream scientific publications). I was told personally that this is expected by the insider community, but that it's not known quite what damage may be caused.

There are global factions, and people in government both in Israel and in the US, whose dream it is to start a nuclear firestorm in the Middle East. It remains to be seen what, if anything, will happen. There may be a strike against Iran, but if so, then the issue is whether or not it'll all escalate out of control.

[bennycog]

being here to stop this kind of thing would be nice.. or is it the shift occuring that is causing these effects in people.. interesting how it has been mainly young children and older people who have had the brunt of the brutality. and interesting that it became a problem of sorts in the start of 2010 kubrick's birthing year maybe.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/21/china-daycare-attack_n_1903032.html?ref=topbar

BEIJING -- A man with an ax attacked children at a daycare center in southwestern China, killing three and injuring 13 others.

The official Xinhua News Agency said the man in Guangxi province burst into the center Friday afternoon and attacked the children with his ax.

A police officer in Pingnan county where the attack happened says the assailant has been caught. The officer would only give his surname, Lin, and said he did not have any other details.

China has experienced a string of rampage attacks at schools, retirement homes and on city streets that have left dozens dead and scores more wounded since the start of 2010.

The attacks have prompted calls for more attention to mental illnesses and concern over rising stress in Chinese society.

[sygh]

One of the most wonderful things I have learned I am here for is to try to understand instead of close my mind, love instead of feeling nothing, forgive instead of holding a grudge, and embrace change from within. After 55 years on the planet, I am really learning what it means to live on this planet without destroying it. How selfish I was and never even knew it. Always knew there was a problem, always thought... where is it? It was in me all along. :yo:

[Eagle Eye]

What we may be here to do?

I'll answer your question if you answer mines.

Are we here by our own choice or we're brought to this illusion for a purpose ?
Is our path already written or we have free will to choose our own ?
Is "Balance" the key for leaving in this duality or we have to choose one side ?

[Bill Ryan]

What we may be here to do?

I'll answer your question if you answer mine.

Are we here by our own choice or we're brought to this illusion for a purpose ?
By our own choice. That may include a purpose.


Is our path already written or we have free will to choose our own ?We have free will. No point in playing a game if the result is already fixed.


Is "Balance" the key for leaving in this duality or we have to choose one side ?We have to choose one side. The 'other side' (if it's the dark one) tries to trick and confound us, and prevent us from using our right of free choice. If it's the 'light one', it tries to restore and rehabilite our free will, right to choose, and our awareness.

[Rocky_Shorz]

the path of destiny leaves no room for free will...

choosing a different path leads back to the one meant to be...

no matter which way I run, those dang footsteps keep reappearing before me...

[another bob]

the path of destiny leaves no room for free will...

choosing a different path leads back to the one meant to be...

no matter which way I run, those dang footsteps keep reappearing before me...


There is neither destiny nor free will, neither path nor progress. This is the final truth. Prior to that realization, there is both free will and destiny, paths, and feet walking those paths. Trying to use the mind to make these determinations is futile. Whatever belief one invests in, that will be their reality, until supplanted by a new one, and so on, until all mental fabrications are seen through and discarded. Then only will the actual Reality emerge from under the layers of filtered concepts and second-hand memory associations masquerading as "our opinions".

[Anchor]

no matter which way I run, those dang footsteps keep reappearing before me...

Serves you right for being a part of the one infinite creator and thinking you were someone else :)

[DeDukshyn]

the path of destiny leaves no room for free will...

choosing a different path leads back to the one meant to be...

no matter which way I run, those dang footsteps keep reappearing before me...


There is neither destiny nor free will, neither path nor progress. This is the final truth. Prior to that realization, there is both free will and destiny, paths, and feet walking those paths. Trying to use the mind to make these determinations is futile. Whatever belief one invests in, that will be their reality, until supplanted by a new one, and so on, until all mental fabrications are seen through and discarded. Then only will the actual Reality emerge from under the layers of filtered concepts and second-hand memory associations masquerading as "our opinions".

What if the path of destiny is defined as that time spent before coming to that realization?

Semantics, eh? ;)

[another bob]

the path of destiny leaves no room for free will...

choosing a different path leads back to the one meant to be...

no matter which way I run, those dang footsteps keep reappearing before me...


There is neither destiny nor free will, neither path nor progress. This is the final truth. Prior to that realization, there is both free will and destiny, paths, and feet walking those paths. Trying to use the mind to make these determinations is futile. Whatever belief one invests in, that will be their reality, until supplanted by a new one, and so on, until all mental fabrications are seen through and discarded. Then only will the actual Reality emerge from under the layers of filtered concepts and second-hand memory associations masquerading as "our opinions".

What if the path of destiny is defined as that time spent before coming to that realization?

Semantics, eh? ;)

We are timeless being and awareness. There is no getting to that or departing from that, except in the imagination that creates fun games to play like "paths of destiny". It's like "Charades", in a virtual reality game format.

[DeDukshyn]

the path of destiny leaves no room for free will...

choosing a different path leads back to the one meant to be...

no matter which way I run, those dang footsteps keep reappearing before me...


There is neither destiny nor free will, neither path nor progress. This is the final truth. Prior to that realization, there is both free will and destiny, paths, and feet walking those paths. Trying to use the mind to make these determinations is futile. Whatever belief one invests in, that will be their reality, until supplanted by a new one, and so on, until all mental fabrications are seen through and discarded. Then only will the actual Reality emerge from under the layers of filtered concepts and second-hand memory associations masquerading as "our opinions".

What if the path of destiny is defined as that time spent before coming to that realization?

Semantics, eh? ;)

We are timeless being and awareness. There is no getting to that or departing from that, except in the imagination that creates fun games to play like "paths of destiny". It's like "Charades", in a virtual reality game format.

There is being at that realization, or there is not. If this were not true, your words would not make sense at all or have any use. Key word was realization. I agree with what you are saying, but semantics and the myriad ways of understanding what that means are a bitch. ;) And not everyone is having fun in their game.

[another bob]

I agree with what you are saying, but semantics and the myriad ways of understanding what that means are a bitch. ;) And not everyone is having fun in their game.

Some folks go to scary movies to be horrified, and during the movie, may not appear to be having any kind of enjoyable experience. Later, over beers at the pub, they may say, "Gosh, that was fun!" It is actually something like that -- this human experience, but the rational mind will never get that, until it is trascended by recognition of our prior and native condition, which is limitless freedom -- never bound, never threatened. It is bliss unspeakable, but we like to set that aside to find out what its opposite might be like, hence we show up in these goofy realms, to test ourselves and widen our embrace to include all of it, the non-bliss as well as the bliss, and come to see that they are not two.

[Rocky_Shorz]

no matter which way I run, those dang footsteps keep reappearing before me...

Serves you right for being a part of the one infinite creator and thinking you were someone else :)

I never sent a resume... ;)

[truth4me]

What we may be here to do?

I'll answer your question if you answer mine.

Are we here by our own choice or we're brought to this illusion for a purpose ?
By our own choice. That may include a purpose.


Is our path already written or we have free will to choose our own ?We have free will. No point in playing a game if the result is already fixed.


Is "Balance" the key for leaving in this duality or we have to choose one side ?We have to choose one side. The 'other side' (if it's the dark one) tries to trick and confound us, and prevent us from using our right of free choice. If it's the 'light one', it tries to restore and rehabilite our free will, right to choose, and our awareness. We might have to choose a side but to me the question is how long does the game go on?

[Anchor]

We might to have to choose a side but to me the question is how long does the game go on?

Time is such a tricky subject.

Things like this go in cycles.

We are in a paradoxical environment where there is time (or an experience of it), but no beginning or ending.

Many hypotheses out there suggest we are getting toward the end of a major cycle (and I agree on that) but no one seems to be explicitly clear on what that means.

What I think it means is that there is an opportunity to move on to the next cycle (different game, different rules) or have a new one (another cycle), but with the same rules.

The game is different in different cycles.

[Chester]

the path of destiny leaves no room for free will...

choosing a different path leads back to the one meant to be...

no matter which way I run, those dang footsteps keep reappearing before me...


There is neither destiny nor free will, neither path nor progress. This is the final truth. Prior to that realization, there is both free will and destiny, paths, and feet walking those paths. Trying to use the mind to make these determinations is futile. Whatever belief one invests in, that will be their reality, until supplanted by a new one, and so on, until all mental fabrications are seen through and discarded. Then only will the actual Reality emerge from under the layers of filtered concepts and second-hand memory associations masquerading as "our opinions".

who am I to say, "correct!" but still... I have to say, Bob - "correct"

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What we may be here to do?

I'll answer your question if you answer mine.

Are we here by our own choice or we're brought to this illusion for a purpose ?
By our own choice. That may include a purpose.


Is our path already written or we have free will to choose our own ?We have free will. No point in playing a game if the result is already fixed.


Is "Balance" the key for leaving in this duality or we have to choose one side ?We have to choose one side. The 'other side' (if it's the dark one) tries to trick and confound us, and prevent us from using our right of free choice. If it's the 'light one', it tries to restore and rehabilite our free will, right to choose, and our awareness. We might to have to choose a side but to me the question is how long does the game go on?

There is only one side... your own. Yet when you get there, the side dissolves completely.

[Eagle Eye]

Are we here by our own choice or we're brought to this illusion for a purpose ?
By our own choice. That may include a purpose.

Is our path already written or we have free will to choose our own ?
We have free will. No point in playing a game if the result is already fixed.

I am sure that major events that happen to our lives are already fixed and we can't do a thing about them but we always can change the point of view ( control bad emotions or just try to forget it , thats our free will).

[Bill Ryan]

What we may be here to do?

I'll answer your question if you answer mine.

Are we here by our own choice or we're brought to this illusion for a purpose ?
By our own choice. That may include a purpose.


Is our path already written or we have free will to choose our own ?We have free will. No point in playing a game if the result is already fixed.


Is "Balance" the key for leaving in this duality or we have to choose one side ?We have to choose one side. The 'other side' (if it's the dark one) tries to trick and confound us, and prevent us from using our right of free choice. If it's the 'light one', it tries to restore and rehabilite our free will, right to choose, and our awareness. We might to have to choose a side but to me the question is how long does the game go on?

For as long as it takes. (Could be a long time!)

[Fred Steeves]

What we may be here to do?

I'll answer your question if you answer mine.

Are we here by our own choice or we're brought to this illusion for a purpose ?
By our own choice. That may include a purpose.


Is our path already written or we have free will to choose our own ?We have free will. No point in playing a game if the result is already fixed.


Is "Balance" the key for leaving in this duality or we have to choose one side ?We have to choose one side. The 'other side' (if it's the dark one) tries to trick and confound us, and prevent us from using our right of free choice. If it's the 'light one', it tries to restore and rehabilite our free will, right to choose, and our awareness. We might to have to choose a side but to me the question is how long does the game go on?

For as long as it takes. (Could be a long time!)

It's already been a long time. What if having to choose a side, is the grandest illusion of all?

[Lone Bean]

You can go nuts thinking about illusions. If i get stung by a hornet, is my pain an illusion? Nope. It's real and no amount of thinking it's an illusion is going to make it stop hurting.

[DeDukshyn]

I agree with what you are saying, but semantics and the myriad ways of understanding what that means are a bitch. ;) And not everyone is having fun in their game.

Some folks go to scary movies to be horrified, and during the movie, may not appear to be having any kind of enjoyable experience. Later, over beers at the pub, they may say, "Gosh, that was fun!" It is actually something like that -- this human experience, but the rational mind will never get that, until it is trascended by recognition of our prior and native condition, which is limitless freedom -- never bound, never threatened. It is bliss unspeakable, but we like to set that aside to find out what its opposite might be like, hence we show up in these goofy realms, to test ourselves and widen our embrace to include all of it, the non-bliss as well as the bliss, and come to see that they are not two.

"Level 2" is available to all, and it really is a LOT more fun, but it requires the understanding that these are games. Most people do not know it is a game let alone there is a"level 2" with much less experiential suffering and much more fun. (speaking strictly metaphorically of course). If I was in that place, I'd appreciate someone letting me know this. I may not accept it, but that would be my choice.

You can't "help" anyone - I can see this is what you are leaning on and I agree, but we can offer our tools.

[DeDukshyn]

What we may be here to do?

I'll answer your question if you answer mine.

Are we here by our own choice or we're brought to this illusion for a purpose ?
By our own choice. That may include a purpose.


Is our path already written or we have free will to choose our own ?We have free will. No point in playing a game if the result is already fixed.


Is "Balance" the key for leaving in this duality or we have to choose one side ?We have to choose one side. The 'other side' (if it's the dark one) tries to trick and confound us, and prevent us from using our right of free choice. If it's the 'light one', it tries to restore and rehabilite our free will, right to choose, and our awareness. We might to have to choose a side but to me the question is how long does the game go on?

For as long as it takes. (Could be a long time!)

It's already been a long time. What if having to choose a side, is the grandest illusion of all?




First people have to be taught what a "choice" is. Then maybe we can work on solving the "sides" problem ;)

This isn't an endorsement for choosing "sides", but rather how we all can help ensure our freedom of choice by knowing the distinction between "choices" and "Decisions" ;)

CHOICE: To select after consideration
DECISION: To select based on a consideration

such a tiny subtle difference with such grand implications.

A - "Choose .... "

A - "Why did you choose that?"
B - "I chose that because .... <insert reason here> "

A - "So based on that consideration you selected .... <insert selection>?"
B - "Yes that was my choice"

A - "Look at the definitions again -- that was a decision based on a reason was it not? Not a choice."
B - "I guess it was, Ok this time I'll choose ... I choose <insert selection>"

A - "Why did you choose that?"
B - "I chose that because .. oh wait ... you got me, it's not a choice if I use a 'because', is it?"

A - "Exactly! A choice is a selection not based on any consideration, but merely a selection with all considerations in mind, but the choice is made from what you love and what you really want, often despite all the considerations"
B - "So if I make selections based on the considerations, then I am merely being a pawn to pre-established 'Reasons' that may not even be my own?"

A - "Yes, that is correct, you cannot have true freedom while all your selections are tied to pre-existing reasons, in that state you exist as a follower of 'reason' and can be easily manipulated. All one has to do is convince you of a reason via any method (fear, lies, spins, 'statistics', religion, media, social pressure, etc), and they can control how you select. This is the current state of the relationship between the Earth's 'elite' and the working class."


Be Un-Reasonable! Shift as much of your selection making away from being "decisions" and toward being genuine "choices". 99% of the people on earth are fooled into believing they are making choices with their 'free will'. Nothing could be further from the truth. This is in part due to the lost distinction between what is a "Choice" and what is a "Decision" -- most people would not have that distinction, and lost with that distinction is their true freedom of "Choice"

Become unpredictable and unreasonable, besides, who needs the stress? All is Well! Choose well! ;) ;) Whatever you choose will be far grander than the selections your are forced into settling on to alleviate the fear that drives "reasons". I promise you this, just think about it for a minute ... As small children we all still knew how to "choose", until that is, we were taught to select by "reason" only.

[truth4me]

One of the most wonderful things I have learned I am here for is to try to understand instead of close my mind, love instead of feeling nothing, forgive instead of holding a grudge, and embrace change from within. After 55 years on the planet, I am really learning what it means to live on this planet without destroying it. How selfish I was and never even knew it. Always knew there was a problem, always thought... where is it? It was in me all along. :yo: Well said sygh well said.......

[Brodie75]

couldn't our choice in coming here in the first place be a part of our free will?
The outcome might well be fixed but our free will came in 1. our choice to come at this time and 2. how we react and behave in and
during this time.
Both fixed outcome and free will

[ulli]

I can't speak on behalf of others, only for myself.
I came here to learn all those things that others have mentioned, so I agree with all of it. To make a choice and then to see also that it is all an illusion. But then it would have been pointless to be born...to live an illusion...
There has to be a "what's next?"

I'm here to be political. That does not mean I would ever join a political party, but it does mean that I need to make a difference, and effect the lives of others, especially those who are suffering.
Even within that there are more choices to be made, in order to gain maximum impact. To be effective.
The question is why.
Anyone who is informed can see that we are now standing on the edge of an abyss, and that there are parties who wish to push a large number of people over that edge. Is there any way that these people can be stopped and a mass slaughter be prevented? I cannot not bear to see the horror of the suffering multiply beyond wildest dreams.....

For some it may be easy to say, ' oh they will just incarnate again, and again, and again, until they have reached perfection"
I have chosen a long time ago not to believe that. I know that this time is crucial, that this life is crucial, that I came here only for this time, to prevent the mass slaughter.
All of my efforts are directed towards finding out how that is to be done. For years I worked in an organization that wanted world peace, and many members even worked in the field of conflict resolution as professionals. But now we are in the final hour and it looks like we have passed the point of sitting around a table and discussing peace measures.
We need to sabotage the weapons of the dark side, and perhaps disarms them, using our knowledge of the illusory world, which is made of mind stuff.
This the mind can do, fueled by the heart.
Doing it, now.
There is no time left to lose.

[astrid]

Bumping this thread it's importance can't be stressed enough

[edina]

I've been looking deeper and deeper into the application of permaculture principles, edible food gardens and the ways and means in which we can reinvent or re-story our relationships with ourselves, each other, our environments locally, globally, economically, technologically and even cosmically....

This video offers a well thought out and unique point of view of permaculture by social ecologist, Stuart B Hill, his ideas are easily translatable across a wide spectrum of human challenges.
It encourages deeper thinking... enjoy :D

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[Anchor]

To help the planet.

I am here to implement a vision I have.

A vision where I live in a world where each person takes full responsibility for every action, thought, word and deed. Where each person lives in harmony with themselves and each of their other-selves. Where each person lives also in harmony with nature, the planet and all her creatures and kingdoms. Where the planet is free from tyranny and the troublemakers and tyrants have all left never to return. Where the planet is restored to its former vitality, purity, beauty and glory.

By incarnating here as humans, we are allowed to do these things and make these changes. The planet, a consciousness that dwarfs our own, provided the material for our bodies which she could easily withhold and so I know that this is true.

In my opinion our mission and purpose for being here is primarily to help the planet - along the way we may once more, learn a thing or two that helps us on our own paths.


--Update for clarity--

Later on in this thread its obvious I have made a mistake with "We" above. I don't mean everybody, by "we" I mean the brothers and sisters of sorrow - the wanderers who have taken incarnation in order to help out with the rather complicated situation on the planet at this time. I consider myself one such wanderer, and in all likelihood the majority of the membership are probably wanderers as well.

--Update (2) for clarity--

Even later on... boring I know, but...

The above is what I am doing and I probably should not have considered myself competent to speak on behalf of any WE - either all of you, or the wanderer ground crew. I appreciate Ray and Fred bringing this to light.

[Anastasia]

I am here to move past the Fourth Dimension, while here, and into the Fifth Dimension. Hopefully, as I do I will shift a frequency that resonates out, exponentially...assisting in raising the frequency from 3 to 4 and most importantly past 4. For the Fourth is fraught with (from my understanding) dicotamies, contradictions, exhaustion, and mind puzzles that will not be solved.

Once in a while I achieve the Fifth Level, where there is a 'knowing' beyond knowledge. There is a "third language" that speaks from the divine intelligence, it is an experience and I hope to share it more, and more as we go along on this miraculous journey we are all on together.

I believe this state of consciousness can be transmitted through words, I am here to learn how.

We are so GREAT, we humans, we are the greatest beings that have ever been or ever will be....

my humble opinion...

hehehe

Sincerely,
Anastasia

[modwiz]

To help the planet.

I am here to implement a vision I have.

A vision where I live in a world where each person takes full responsibility for every action, thought, word and deed. Where each person lives in harmony with themselves and each of their other-selves. Where each person lives also in harmony with nature, the planet and all her creatures and kingdoms. Where the planet is free from tyranny and the troublemakers and tyrants have all left never to return. Where the planet is restored to its former vitality, purity, beauty and glory.

By incarnating here as humans, we are allowed to do these things and make these changes. The planet, a consciousness that dwarfs our own, provided the material for our bodies which she could easily withhold and so I know that this is true.

In my opinion our mission and purpose for being here is primarily to help the planet - along the way we may once more, learn a thing or two that helps us on our own paths.

Wonderful, focused and cogent. :thumb: Simple, elegant and so rich.

Thank you, John.

[Fred Steeves]

In my opinion our mission and purpose for being here is primarily to help the planet - along the way we may once more, learn a thing or two that helps us on our own paths.

Hi John, and excellent post brother. I just wanted to point out where we split in opinion on one small detail here. From my experience anyway, this planet will be fine. Yes we are inflicting incredible pain on her, raping and pillaging and such, but she's a big girl and can take it. Of course she could wipe us out and be done with our parasitic behaviour in the blink of an eye, but I think she will travel all the way to the brink of her own extinction with us, just to give us every last opportunity to change, before she does.

Cheers Mate,
Fred

[AwakeInADream]

I'm having a lot of synchronicity with the number 432 lately and 216. I guess the Universe is reassuring me that I'm on the right path by studying frequencies and resonances of sound and colour.

It's so great to have this forum to share and develop ideas, and to find genuine help and wisdom from others. There is a real power in the collective mind on this forum to slowly but surely change the world for the better. This is why they invented the internet, for the betterment of mankind. Thank you to all who make this forum possible and keep it running to a high standard.:)

[Anchor]

In my opinion our mission and purpose for being here is primarily to help the planet - along the way we may once more, learn a thing or two that helps us on our own paths.

Hi John, and excellent post brother. I just wanted to point out where we split in opinion on one small detail here. From my experience anyway, this planet will be fine. Yes we are inflicting incredible pain on her, raping and pillaging and such, but she's a big girl and can take it. Of course she could wipe us out and be done with our parasitic behaviour in the blink of an eye, but I think she will travel all the way to the brink of her own extinction with us, just to give us every last opportunity to change, before she does.

Cheers Mate,
Fred

It looks like you are not disagreeing with me. Unless you saying that the planet does not need our help - are you ?

[Wind]

If You Wanna Make The
World A Better Place
Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make A Change

PivWY9wn5ps

[K626]

I find there are dozens of situations every week where my attention is drawn and I feel I can intervene and make a positive difference. It used to be that when I was younger I was quite unaware that these were coming to me...Now I ask for them. :)

K

[Fred Steeves]

In my opinion our mission and purpose for being here is primarily to help the planet - along the way we may once more, learn a thing or two that helps us on our own paths.

Hi John, and excellent post brother. I just wanted to point out where we split in opinion on one small detail here. From my experience anyway, this planet will be fine. Yes we are inflicting incredible pain on her, raping and pillaging and such, but she's a big girl and can take it. Of course she could wipe us out and be done with our parasitic behaviour in the blink of an eye, but I think she will travel all the way to the brink of her own extinction with us, just to give us every last opportunity to change, before she does.

Cheers Mate,
Fred

It looks like you are not disagreeing with me. Unless you saying that the planet does not need our help - are you ?

Yes, that's actually pretty much what I'm saying John. Maybe I wasn't so clear though, it happens. http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif

I see it rather like a mosquito biting someone on the arm. Generally people just swat it as soon as the event is felt, and that's it. In this case I'm saying we're basically the mosquito, and one on super steroids at that. A mosquito that can also grow continually, in order to continue sucking ever greater and greater amouts of blood.

Gaia is avoiding the dreaded slap at all cost, all the while watching herself being sucked dry. She's been saying: "Please stop, please stop", for a while. Now me thinks she's moving to the stage of: "You better stop, you had better stop".

Whether we stop, or we finally get slapped, she'll be fine. Mosquito bites don't need reparations, they just need to be left alone to heal.

[deridan]

hey look triple 1, maybe a greater vibratory tag has come thru with Fred's message,
11 is the number, 2 away from 9, which would be the time we can leave this earth plane, if 9 is like us transforming earth into a huge base, if 3 can be said to be our mystical teachers, yeah then 11weseek.
so its the boat and the storms, and the joy of a soul in mounting effectively to the challenge,
acknowledged are those who said ...a large proportion of us are not ready [even generationally], and those who said reincarnation is not an excuse to cut a life short, for those who herd towards the cliff,
sometimes by isolating us enlightened so much, i wonder whether we aren't like a puss-capsule, to-evolved relative to the rest of men, unable to evolve them up, and so to be merely discarded from the body --hey least we did a good job to attack the infection with hyper-critical attitudes from the universal immune-system
{to end in nothingness is also permissible, sometimes it is the universal prayerconsciousness which is more}

[Anchor]

In my opinion our mission and purpose for being here is primarily to help the planet - along the way we may once more, learn a thing or two that helps us on our own paths.

I just wanted to point out where we split in opinion on one small detail here. From my experience anyway, this planet will be fine.

It looks like you are not disagreeing with me. Unless you saying that the planet does not need our help - are you ?

Yes, that's actually pretty much what I'm saying John. Maybe I wasn't so clear though, it happens.

Ok, in that case I disagree. This does not actually matter, I'll agree to disagree ;)

I am of the opinion that Gaia was so far gone, that without help she'd be dead by now - unwilling to kill the mosquitoes, they would have killed themselves by killing the host.

I and others like me are here to help to provide some metaphysical life support to the planet. I don't know how it happens it just does. We just have to stay alive and act in service to others and try to live harmoniously. Whatever we find to do in our lives that is doing that, we are helping: either directly or indirectly or in fact both.

My take on this (largely intuition based) is that with the massive (likely up to over 100 million now) influx of off-worlder's (wanderers/walk-ins) coming in from around the 50's-60's and onward, the planet was saved, and can complete its end of cycle changes. Ongoing healing for the damage still being done to it is still required - hence my vision and envisioning above.

Like I said, you don't have to agree to this thinking and it changes nothing, because living harmoniously and without tyranny, and being nice to the planet is a good idea for all sorts of other reasons :)

[Finefeather]

Hi Anchor, hope you are well...


A vision where I live in a world where each person takes full responsibility for every action, thought, word and deed. Where each person lives in harmony with themselves and each of their other-selves. Where each person lives also in harmony with nature, the planet and all her creatures and kingdoms. Where the planet is free from tyranny and the troublemakers and tyrants have all left never to return. Where the planet is restored to its former vitality, purity, beauty and glory.
Well I think you have summed it up quite well here..., but you seem to think that there are some 'tyrants' here who as you say need to leave and never return. Who do you think these tyrants are? Are they maybe not just those still in the process of being woken up?...or are they just maybe the ones who are here to confirm our righteousness? And why would they need to leave when you think you are supposedly ready, and that this point which you have now arrived at, is the deciding point when all of the 'not ready' should now pack up and leave? Is this not a bit like leaving your child behind because he/she still messes up the back yard while you have grown up having had your turn to mess up the back yard, and having learnt all you need to learn, think everyone not up to your standard is now discardable?



By incarnating here as humans, we are allowed to do these things and make these changes. The planet, a consciousness that dwarfs our own, provided the material for our bodies which she could easily withhold and so I know that this is true.
Please note the way I am phrasing the concept of materialised objects, like the body and the earth vrs Spiritual Beings.
We, as individualised Spiritual Beings, in human bodies are not been 'allowed' to do anything. The human body, as an incarnating medium, for individualised Spiritual Beings is the electron of the earth, in the same manner as an electron is part of the atom. The one cannot exist without the other. The moon is an example of this, it is a dead planet, the Spirit and Bodies have left, it is in the process of decay. All manifested objects you see around you are created by some Spiritual Being's Will and so without that creation nothing would exists. The earth was created by a Spiritual Being who's objective is to serve in the larger plan of expanding the consciousness of the ONE life we are all a part of. Our part to play, as individualised Spiritual Beings, is to use the provided means to create objects or thoughts which will ultimately give rise to more awareness and thus more consciousness for the benifit of all, not for one particular entity.
So, the earth, as a materialised body is the same as your physical body, both have 'resident' incarnating Spiritual Beings who keep the object from decay. If you fail to keep your house in order you can expect some disease to manifest.



In my opinion our mission and purpose for being here is primarily to help the planet - along the way we may once more, learn a thing or two that helps us on our own paths.
Our mission is NOT primarily to help the planet (although by implication we should see the part it plays and the obvious results of an unhealthy planet), the planet's mission is to provide the 'outposts' in matter in which we can become more aware and consciousness can increase for the whole system, including us as Spiritual Beings. Of course you should realise that the shear magnitude of the task of the planetary Logos is far greater and the Spiritual Being who holds it together is thus far more evolved than us as individualised Spiritual Beings in a human body, and it would be wise to treat the earth with respect and not the way we are going about it now. But having the power and will which the earth as gaia has you should know and be aware of the fact that she has great levels of endurance and resolve. These powers are combined with the natural laws of the cosmos. As above so below.

The objective of every Spiritual Being in a human body is to participate in the creation of a life on earth where we can live in peace and harmony and Love, and thus increase our overall consciousness.
The ONLY thing that is preventing this is the illusion, which the individualised human body creates, of separation, and thus doubt.
There are 2 basic sides to this game we are playing:
One side, seeking to join us together in peace and harmony and love and thus increasing our consciousness (the forces of Light) and..
Another side, seeking to cause hatred and conflict and division and fear and thus increasing our consciousness (the material forces or Dark forces)...
(Note that in both cases consciousness is increased, and this is the reason we perceive both 'good' and 'bad' Spiritual Beings, but the levels of vibration vary)
And there are an infinite number of permutations of these 2 sides...
Where are you on this scale?...this is the question.

Contrary to the great rush, which many seem to be fooled into thinking is the goal, to achieve enlightenment and ascension, we as Spiritual Beings are actually seeking life in the denser planes because it has more tangible experience. Think of it as a mission to find the best place to spend a few 1000 years on holiday next to a beautiful setting of your choice with your best mate and a good basket of fresh food and not a worry in the world. Some will come to experience enlightenment or ascension from the earth plane, some come to compete in the world stage in sports and business, while another will come to experience living in the darkest places of dispair.
We ALL are already enlightened Spiritual Beings, we have come with just the right amount of consciousness for the task we have chosen.
Learn to smile more, be happy with what you have got, stop trying to be someone else, and stop trying to turn others into you, and start realising that you are you and nobody else. How much more special can you be?

The average human, as the current cycle of individualised Spiritual Beings in the current human body on this earth, is a young creation and they have thousands of years to go before they see the results, which so many of the more advanced visiters here in bodies point them to with such frustration and impatience. Many will not 'get it' for a long time because the body which has been created for this cycle is a stubborn and difficult one to 'crack'. For most more advanced Beings on this forum it has come relatively easy, because of past experience on many different planets and universes...many are older 'souls' with vast experience and thus greater responsibility,...to the rest it is a new game.
You need to have 3 qualities in you to be a good teacher or a good student: Courage...Love, and Patience.

Love to all
Ray

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Excellent Finefeather, that's all pretty much spot on and in line with my own understanding.


One side, seeking to join us together in peace and harmony and love and thus increasing our consciousness (the forces of Light) and..
Another side, seeking to cause hatred and conflict and division and fear and thus increasing our consciousness (the material forces or Dark forces)...

That's exactly it, and sums up the whole 'service-to-others' / 'service-to-self' paradigm which I've tried explaining to people before but they don't seem to get it. It's a difficult concept to grasp, that you can still 'increase consciousness' - progress - by being a selfish being. Well you can, consciousness can be increased to deeper and more refined vibrations when walking this path, but at the cost of even greater separation. And there is a ceiling for how far you can go along this path I feel.


Our part to play, as individualised Spiritual Beings, is to use the provided means to create objects or thoughts which will ultimately give rise to more awareness and thus more consciousness for the benifit of all, not for one particular entity.

I would only add to that 'the ability to become Creators ourselves' down the line.

[Anchor]

Hi Anchor, hope you are well...

I am thanks. Even better for reading your great post. Got me thinking - and that is why I love this forum.


you seem to think that there are some 'tyrants' here who as you say need to leave and never return. Who do you think these tyrants are?

Yes its obvious that there are tyrants, and tyranny. Those that want to run the world at others expense.


Are they maybe not just those still in the process of being woken up?

I have no doubt some are.


...or are they just maybe the ones who are here to confirm our righteousness?

No, they may do that on the surface, but if we compare ourselves to others and set our measures of what is right and wrong that way, then IMO we are looking in the wrong direction. Guidance ought come from within, not without - its what gets us in the mess we are in.


And why would they need to leave when you think you are supposedly ready, and that this point which you have now arrived at, is the deciding point when all of the 'not ready' should now pack up and leave? Is this not a bit like leaving your child behind because he/she still messes up the back yard while you have grown up having had your turn to mess up the back yard, and having learnt all you need to learn, think everyone not up to your standard is now discardable?

Timing is everything. My thinking/ideas is based on the fact that there are cosmic cycles of evolution in play. For this planet a time is approaching where the negatively oriented lifestyle will not be sustainable - they will therefore leave and never return.


Please note the way I am phrasing the concept of materialised objects, like the body and the earth vrs Spiritual Beings.
We, as individualised Spiritual Beings, in human bodies are not been 'allowed' to do anything. The human body, as an incarnating medium, for individualised Spiritual Beings is the electron of the earth, in the same manner as an electron is part of the atom. The one cannot exist without the other. The moon is an example of this, it is a dead planet, the Spirit and Bodies have left, it is in the process of decay. All manifested objects you see around you are created by some Spiritual Being's Will and so without that creation nothing would exists. The earth was created by a Spiritual Being who's objective is to serve in the larger plan of expanding the consciousness of the ONE life we are all a part of. Our part to play, as individualised Spiritual Beings, is to use the provided means to create objects or thoughts which will ultimately give rise to more awareness and thus more consciousness for the benifit of all, not for one particular entity.
So, the earth, as a materialised body is the same as your physical body, both have 'resident' incarnating Spiritual Beings who keep the object from decay. If you fail to keep your house in order you can expect some disease to manifest.

By allowed I mean to say that there is certainty in my mind that the planet agrees to humans incarnating and expressing freewill and freedom of action - including the latest batch of off-worlders. If the Gaia did not want us here, we would not be here. Some of the humans here work to offer Gaia negative catalyst (your disease/decay) - either knowingly or unknowningly; others are the medicine. Turns out the humans that were here in the 50's could not balance things out enough, so some off-world medicine was introduced.


In my opinion our mission and purpose for being here is primarily to help the planet - along the way we may once more, learn a thing or two that helps us on our own paths.


Our mission is NOT primarily to help the planet (although by implication we should see the part it plays and the obvious results of an unhealthy planet)

Ok, I see that I have made a mistake here. I am referring to the primary mission of the wanders who have incarnated here. I apologize to all for the confusion.

Regardless your argument for this appears to be that the planet can cope by itself. I do not agree with you.

There are reasons for the planets dilema - it wont deliberately cause the death of of its humans, even if it would die itself.

When any human incarnates it enters into a close relationship with the planet. Its body is made of bits of the planet.


The objective of every Spiritual Being in a human body is to participate in the creation of a life on earth where we can live in peace and harmony and Love, and thus increase our overall consciousness.

No - for some it is, not all.

The objective of every spritual being taking a human body on Earth is to experience (as you say in your next paragraph) "Spiritual Beings are actually seeking life in the denser planes because it has more tangible experience."


The ONLY thing that is preventing this is the illusion, which the individualised human body creates, of separation, and thus doubt.
There are 2 basic sides to this game we are playing:
One side, seeking to join us together in peace and harmony and love and thus increasing our consciousness (the forces of Light) and..
Another side, seeking to cause hatred and conflict and division and fear and thus increasing our consciousness (the material forces or Dark forces)...
(Note that in both cases consciousness is increased, and this is the reason we perceive both 'good' and 'bad' Spiritual Beings, but the levels of vibration vary)
And there are an infinite number of permutations of these 2 sides...
Where are you on this scale?...this is the question.

Essentially we experience this to make a choice. Do we love ourselves more than others - and is that how we want to evolve ? Or do we love others more than ourselves and it that how we want to evolve. The Earth will host the latter in the next cycle. So this is why a choice is important.


Contrary to the great rush, which many seem to be fooled into thinking is the goal, to achieve enlightenment and ascension, we as Spiritual Beings are actually seeking life in the denser planes because it has more tangible experience. Think of it as a mission to find the best place to spend a few 1000 years on holiday next to a beautiful setting of your choice with your best mate and a good basket of fresh food and not a worry in the world. Some will come to experience enlightenment or ascension from the earth plane, some come to compete in the world stage in sports and business, while another will come to experience living in the darkest places of dispair.
We ALL are already enlightened Spiritual Beings, we have come with just the right amount of consciousness for the task we have chosen.
Learn to smile more, be happy with what you have got, stop trying to be someone else, and stop trying to turn others into you, and start realising that you are you and nobody else. How much more special can you be?

The average human, as the current cycle of individualised Spiritual Beings in the current human body on this earth, is a young creation and they have thousands of years to go before they see the results, which so many of the more advanced visiters here in bodies point them to with such frustration and impatience. Many will not 'get it' for a long time because the body which has been created for this cycle is a stubborn and difficult one to 'crack'. For most more advanced Beings on this forum it has come relatively easy, because of past experience on many different planets and universes...many are older 'souls' with vast experience and thus greater responsibility,...to the rest it is a new game.
You need to have 3 qualities in you to be a good teacher or a good student: Courage...Love, and Patience.

Thank you Ray.

Generally I agree with much of what you have said. I see the main difference between our positions being my hypothesis is that the Earth is (currently) ascending. I too think that the idea of human mass ascension is not correct nor even necessary - it happens for each individually at the right time for them.

Where the human evolutions and planetary evolution gets involved with eachother in a locked synchronicity is down to the relationship of spirit and matter that is forged by the incarnation process.

If the planet moves to a positively oriented expression, it may only host the same kinds of humans. Like I said above, this is a cyclical process. The time is now.

The help provided by the off-worlders will see the planet through this process. What happens to each human (including those off-worlders now human) is up to them.

Anchor..

[Anchor]

To help the planet.

I am here to implement a vision I have.

A vision where I live in a world where each person takes full responsibility for every action, thought, word and deed. Where each person lives in harmony with themselves and each of their other-selves. Where each person lives also in harmony with nature, the planet and all her creatures and kingdoms. Where the planet is free from tyranny and the troublemakers and tyrants have all left never to return. Where the planet is restored to its former vitality, purity, beauty and glory.

By incarnating here as humans, we are allowed to do these things and make these changes. The planet, a consciousness that dwarfs our own, provided the material for our bodies which she could easily withhold and so I know that this is true.

In my opinion our mission and purpose for being here is primarily to help the planet - along the way we may once more, learn a thing or two that helps us on our own paths.


--Update for clarity--

Later on in this thread its obvious I have made a mistake with "We" above. I don't mean everybody, by "we" I mean the brothers and sisters of sorrow - the wanderers who have taken incarnation in order to help out with the rather complicated situation on the planet at this time. I consider myself one such wanderer, and in all likelihood the majority of the membership are probably wanderers as well.

--Update (2) for clarity--

Even later on... boring I know, but...

The above is what I am doing and I probably should not have considered myself competent to speak on behalf of any WE - either all of you, or the wanderer ground crew. I appreciate Ray and Fred bringing this to light.



Sorry to quote my own post. As a result of the debate above this I wanted to clarify it, and have done.

So rather than take my narrow view of who "we" are, when then is the purpose of every human in incarnation at this current time? What "may" we here here to do?

The answer, as I understand it, is to make a choice. A choice between service to self, or service to others and then to follow a path where one acts according to the selected principle.

[Belle]

The destruction of the planet is a side issue, imo.

There are those who have kept the true history of our planet...some call them tptb, some call them controllers. Doesn't matter what we call them...there is a war on, in case no one has noticed.

There will be earth changes due to the cycle we're in...happens every 26,000 years. The only question is how bad is it going to be...it could be devastating or could be a blip...we just don't know. The sun is changing...the planet is changing...we are changing....evolution is happening right before our eyes.

Those who have been attempting control have known about this for ages. imo, they are taking advantage of these changes to create a global society with a lot less of us 'goyim'/'useless eaters'/'sheeple'. We have grown in numbers large enough that loss of control is a very real possibility for them...they have seen the need to pare the population down to those who are most easily controlled for their own benefit.

So the question before them was, 'how do we eliminate billions of people, save ourselves from the coming earth changes, and come out the other side with only the number of amenable slaves for our needs...and do this without bringing attention to ourselves?' The answer is, of course, 'we can poison the water they drink, the food they eat, the very air they breathe...we can sterilize them through vaccines...we can lower the oxygen levels by destroying large swaths of forest...we can set up nuclear power plants on fault lines, and weaken those lines through fracking and by burying highly combustible materials...etc."

Of course, those things may descimate the population and destroy the planet, but the planet is going to be changed anyway, so why worry about it.

The survival of billions of people is at stake. Either we work together to expose them and their plans or we will all suffer the consequences in one way or another.

And yet, we are divided and weakened by such division...some of it through their manipulation, but some of it because of our own egos and pride.

I believe I'm here to bridge the gaps between people...to bring reconciliation where there is disagreement and division...in my own small way. Sometimes through example as to how that can be done...each situation calling for its own method.

There is no one coming to save us. We are the ones we have been waiting for. How many times have we either heard those statements or made them ourselves? And yet, we allow the smallest of things come between us.

The situation we face is much too large to allow petty bickering and disagreements to side-track what needs to be done here. Our very lives are at stake. United we can make a difference...divided, well, you know the rest.

Am I doing enough? It never feels like it, but all I can do is keep trying.

[Finefeather]

Hi Anchor, I must say I really enjoy your mind...and thank you for your thoughtful statements.

I am not sure whether we are hijacking this thread, but it does seem to me to have some bearing to it.



...or are they just maybe the ones who are here to confirm our righteousness?
No, they may do that on the surface, but if we compare ourselves to others and set our measures of what is right and wrong that way, then IMO we are looking in the wrong direction. Guidance ought come from within, not without - its what gets us in the mess we are in.
This question, I posed, was a kind of probe and I see you have not fallen for it :) The key here, as I see it, is there should be no attempt at comparison with, or mimicking others. Our contribution should be as unique as possible and although there comes a point where truth is truth, there are many ways to 'kill a cat', as they say...But, as in most cases we notice people tend to be like someone they admire, or respect...of course this may not always be a good thing, but this is the nature of people in their early stages of life on earth, and is a basic instinct, and it only starts changing to a presentation of our own inner self created ideas and understanding after we have learnt through many trial and tribulations of our younger life or lives. We become the creators which we all have the potential to be, and the Spirit shines brightly.


By allowed I mean to say that there is certainty in my mind that the planet agrees to humans incarnating and expressing freewill and freedom of action - including the latest batch of off-worlders. If the Gaia did not want us here, we would not be here. Some of the humans here work to offer Gaia negative catalyst (your disease/decay) - either knowingly or unknowingly; others are the medicine. Turns out the humans that were here in the 50's could not balance things out enough, so some off-world medicine was introduced.
I see where you are trying to go here but you might want to consider the bigger picture, which is the collaboration of effort in the seeking of consciousness. The 3 aspects of the great trinity which is Spirit, Soul and Matter are only evident after the Spirit creates identity or soul or consciousness in matter. Prior to this we are taught that consciousness ceases to exist, and we need to be sure we do not confuse consciousness with mind or the desire to be aware. So, it would be more correct to think of earth as a creation of Spirit out of mother matter, and, in the same way, we could see individualized Spiritual Beings utilizing the creation of the physical objects, as a means to discovery or seeking more consciousness. With this in mind we should visualize the great quest to seek and experience what is 'out there' and the many different levels of created media which facilitates this, and not to see that any of these created objects are in any way thinking whether they will allow or disallow the process. Everything that exists or which can be identified has one goal only, and that is to experience and thus grow consciousness. These 'off-worlders' you refer to are nothing more than 'a little help from our friends' which is taking place now ONLY because the 'tide' is coming in, so to speak...and although we can drown when the tide comes in it is useful to be aware of what can be done to use the force of the tide for improving the situation.
The earth is as precious to us and as much a part of the system as any other creation, none considers it self separate or mightier than the other, only ignorant human minds have created the division.




In my opinion our mission and purpose for being here is primarily to help the planet - along the way we may once more, learn a thing or two that helps us on our own paths.

Our mission is NOT primarily to help the planet (although by implication we should see the part it plays and the obvious results of an unhealthy planet)
Ok, I see that I have made a mistake here. I am referring to the primary mission of the wanders who have incarnated here.
The primary mission of the 'wanderer' (I think this is a Ra concept) is also not to help the planet. Anyone may have great compassion for the earth, and if you are a wanderer, or a more enlightened human, your concern is only a result of your wisdom to see and call for the end to the devastation taking place, and it would be only one of the reasons for you incarnation, not necessarily your prime one, unless you came as an environmentalist or nature conservation person. It depends where your focus is.


Regardless your argument for this appears to be that the planet can cope by itself. I do not agree with you.
I never implied that the planet can cope by itself, I said:
(although by implication we should see the part it plays and the obvious results of an unhealthy planet) This was meant to imply that the earth is a part of our system and if it were unhealthy we would be affected and so we obviously need to take care of it. It would be a bit like saying we did not need to look after our bodies. By implication we need to keep the tools in shape...and they are only tools, including the earth and the body...life is the Spirit, the tools are what we create and our 'reward' is the experience we gain.
The many planetary events like earthquakes, hurricanes, great winds, rain, thunder and lightening, natural fires, gravity etc is a sure sign of cosmic laws taking place on our planet, these laws are what keeps the planet in balance. The decimation of resources like forests, our air, our water etc is a result of mans greed and stupidity and these are the obvious things I was referring to which need management.




The objective of every Spiritual Being in a human body is to participate in the creation of a life on earth where we can live in peace and harmony and Love, and thus increase our overall consciousness.
No - for some it is, not all.

The objective of every spiritual being taking a human body on Earth is to experience (as you say in your next paragraph) "Spiritual Beings are actually seeking life in the denser planes because it has more tangible experience."
Do not confuse experience and consciousness, they are identical. I have actually said exactly the same thing in my first statement, which you disagree with, as I have said in the statement which you agree with. Every thing we do and experience adds to our consciousness and thus to our identity. There is no difference between 'good' or 'bad' experience when it comes to the growth of consciousness.



Essentially we experience this to make a choice. Do we love ourselves more than others - and is that how we want to evolve ? Or do we love others more than ourselves and it that how we want to evolve. The Earth will host the latter in the next cycle. So this is why a choice is important.
There is a wise saying which goes something like this:
If we are indeed all one then it matters not who we serve, whilst you live in duality mode you see sides, when you ascend from duality you see only the one.



Generally I agree with much of what you have said. I see the main difference between our positions being my hypothesis is that the Earth is (currently) ascending. I too think that the idea of human mass ascension is not correct nor even necessary - it happens for each individually at the right time for them.

Where the human evolutions and planetary evolution gets involved with each other in a locked synchronicity is down to the relationship of spirit and matter that is forged by the incarnation process.

If the planet moves to a positively oriented expression, it may only host the same kinds of humans. Like I said above, this is a cyclical process. The time is now.

The help provided by the off-worlders will see the planet through this process. What happens to each human (including those off-worlders now human) is up to them.

Every thing from an atom to the highest state is in the process of evolution, and evolution is nothing more than ascension, it is not a phenomena exclusive to some portion of the ONE we may call source. Life is about ascension and ascension means increasing our consciousness, each little outpost of the ONE, like you and your neighbor and your worst enemy and your dog and your cat, is a collective effort to increase consciousness...we are in a process of discovery not return...it is as simple as that! The only divisions which exist are in the many choices which have been made and are in the minds of the beholder. A planet's 'well being', as is the same for all, is related to the forces and energies which it emanates,...which is a result of the vibration rate of the combination of the Spiritual Being and the Body it inhabits,...together with all it's 'inhabitants', as well as the many forces and energies in which it exists, and that means the entire cosmos, the entire creation, there is no separation, you can go wherever you feel more comfortable and at ease, but you will never escape or be rid of what you think is 'evil' or not your idea of 'good'. The best thing is to become wise to the plan then you will be free,...even if you are standing in the middle of the prison which you created for yourself.

Love to all
Ray

[Chester]

Starchild,

You are not alone. I know I am here to love, I get that, but I don't know what else I should be doing. Maybe we are on a need to know basis and when we need to know, we will. Good luck on your journey.

sleepy

I love this one... "Maybe we are on a need to know basis and when we need to know, we will."

Thanks sleepy... that isn't exactly a comment from someone that presents themselves to be somewhat asleep IMO!

[Chester]

[Here is the website of the Tico Times, a Costa Rican weekly, in English.
You may not get the big picture here,
but some idea of what this central American nation is dealing with.

http://www.ticotimes.net/

Interesting that they have a section dedicated to sustainable living... fat chance you will find that in a leading US paper.


I love it here in Costa Rica - to me it is paradise. It is very, very relaxed.

I found my recent stay in Dallas, Texas (March 10th, 2012 until August 4th, 2012) to be quite difficult because I experienced most folks seemed to be very wound up most of the time - both in Dallas and in other parts of the US in general (experienced by communicating with folks over the phone, etc). And that experience was real sad for me because I see lots of good folks caught up in these energies. Note, I had hardly spent a day in the US in the last 15 years (can't count the two years I commuted to Miami from Curacao as Miami is more like Latin America)... so to experience that degree of change was pretty shocking.

Its funny how here in Costa Rica I don't get any sense of concern about the world's future like they seem to have in the US and like they have in the western world alternative media culture and those like me that have been involved as a consumer of this information.

It just seems like a full blown, total clown show to me. Who knows what the clowns will try next.

Am I doing what I came here to do? I can honestly answer YES (finally) - and that is to be a completely honest, transparent and non-dangerous human being (the last part difficult because I have a hard time controlling my own personal freedom).

Am I doing enough? I doubt I would ever feel satisfied I have done enough and that I am doing enough... EVER! But that's just me. Hell, I even tried to take down the archons - that's how obstinate I am... fortunately I retired before I created my own premature death (my family is at least glad about this last part). Chester



One of the most wonderful things I have learned I am here for is to try to understand instead of close my mind, love instead of feeling nothing, forgive instead of holding a grudge, and embrace change from within. After 55 years on the planet, I am really learning what it means to live on this planet without destroying it. How selfish I was and never even knew it. Always knew there was a problem, always thought... where is it? It was in me all along. :yo:

funny - I just figured this out too and I just turned 55. Is that the magical age? I sure hope so.




"Level 2" is available to all, and it really is a LOT more fun, but it requires the understanding that these are games. Most people do not know it is a game let alone there is a"level 2" with much less experiential suffering and much more fun. (speaking strictly metaphorically of course). If I was in that place, I'd appreciate someone letting me know this. I may not accept it, but that would be my choice.

You can't "help" anyone - I can see this is what you are leaning on and I agree, but we can offer our tools.

I agree - but until I got to Level 2, I didn't believe Level 2 existed. But it does and at least for now, it is indeed fun... we shall see if it gets unfun.



To help the planet.

I am here to implement a vision I have.

A vision where I live in a world where each person takes full responsibility for every action, thought, word and deed. Where each person lives in harmony with themselves and each of their other-selves. Where each person lives also in harmony with nature, the planet and all her creatures and kingdoms. Where the planet is free from tyranny and the troublemakers and tyrants have all left never to return. Where the planet is restored to its former vitality, purity, beauty and glory.

By incarnating here as humans, we are allowed to do these things and make these changes. The planet, a consciousness that dwarfs our own, provided the material for our bodies which she could easily withhold and so I know that this is true.

In my opinion our mission and purpose for being here is primarily to help the planet - along the way we may once more, learn a thing or two that helps us on our own paths.


--Update for clarity--

Later on in this thread its obvious I have made a mistake with "We" above. I don't mean everybody, by "we" I mean the brothers and sisters of sorrow - the wanderers who have taken incarnation in order to help out with the rather complicated situation on the planet at this time. I consider myself one such wanderer, and in all likelihood the majority of the membership are probably wanderers as well.

That was a great post Anchor - thanks for summing up the mission which my heart also shares.

@ Finefeather - I am a dreamer and I dream the planet one day has no "tyrants" - maybe that means I no longer "see" tyrants and so perhaps they may not leave after all... but maybe the way I see has changed.

[Chester]

the path of destiny leaves no room for free will...

choosing a different path leads back to the one meant to be...

no matter which way I run, those dang footsteps keep reappearing before me...

I don't do destiny - I create my experience choosing to do so in relationship with everyone and all... but that's just me.

[Chester]

I'm having a lot of synchronicity with the number 432 lately and 216. I guess the Universe is reassuring me that I'm on the right path by studying frequencies and resonances of sound and colour.

It's so great to have this forum to share and develop ideas, and to find genuine help and wisdom from others. There is a real power in the collective mind on this forum to slowly but surely change the world for the better. This is why they invented the internet, for the betterment of mankind. Thank you to all who make this forum possible and keep it running to a high standard.:)

216 = 6 x 6 x 6 and 432 is two 6 x 6 x 6 s

Thus 216 and 432 make 6 x 6 x 6 and 6 x 6 x 6 and 6 x 6 x 6

interesting synchronicities, my friend

anyone ever get bugged by the fact that the word "synchronicity" is not included as a proper word in "Spell Check"?

Anyone think it odd how the word "spell" has two meanings? one that relates to mind control?

just strange thoughts on just one strange Sunday afternoon from justoneman

[write4change]

Interesting fact about synchronicity in spell check. To further add; the word was coined/invented by Carl Jung after coming back from his total mental breakdown.

[Chester]

Interesting fact about synchronicity in spell check. To further add; the word was coined/invented by Carl Jung after coming back from his total mental breakdown.

In fact ... there are other words that "spell check" does not recognize - for example - chakra ... try and notice these words that "spell check" does not recognize. I found key words somehow are not accepted as words (yet) in "standard English." Words which would allow for more efficient communication.

I wonder why? Who is in charge of "standard English" and how does a word finally get accepted as a proper word in the "English language." The conspiracy runs deep indeed. Don't you just hate that? I do.

[ThePythonicCow]

Interesting fact about synchronicity in spell check.

In fact ... there are other words that "spell check" does not recognize - for example - chakra ...
The spell check that I use recognizes both these words :).

I search for the word on Google, and look to see if it suggests a different spelling.

A bit more seriously, spell checkers have finite subsets of the words in a language and simplified rules for forming the variations (plurals of nouns, different tenses of verbs, ...) of these words.

It means little when a particular spell checker misfires on a particular word.

[AwakeInADream]

The spell check on here uses the American spellings for things like color which I would spell colour. I have to use Google in a separate tab too to check my spelling sometimes.

[Anchor]

Hi Anchor, I must say I really enjoy your mind...and thank you for your thoughtful statements.

I am not sure whether we are hijacking this thread, but it does seem to me to have some bearing to it.

Thanks, and I think we are on topic. If the mods disagree, they can administer the appropriate corrections!


This question, I posed, was a kind of probe … :)

Well, it’s the only kind of probing that I appreciate :)


The key here, as I see it, is there should be no attempt at comparison with, or mimicking others. … We become the creators which we all have the potential to be, and the Spirit shines brightly.

Ray, I don’t know if you meant it this way, but I have decided to interpret the paragraph and the overall response as a kind warning that I should be very sure about what I am saying. I spent lunchtime thinking quite deeply over your entire sets of posts and I now see I need to amend I have said in this thread, because I have changed my position as a result.


I see where you are trying to go here but you might want to consider the bigger picture, which is the collaboration of effort in the seeking of consciousness.
...
The earth is as precious to us and as much a part of the system as any other creation, none considers it self separate or mightier than the other, only ignorant human minds have created the division.

Agreed and nicely put. One comment, where you say:

> Prior to this we are taught that consciousness ceases to exist,

I seriously cannot agree nor disagree with this because its a mystery to me.

I know that I know more than I remember that I know in this life and I know this because I keep remembering more and more stuff that has not been taught to me in this life. The remembered knowledge isn't taught to me this life time, but it may as well have been.



In my opinion our mission and purpose for being here is primarily to help the planet - along the way we may once more, learn a thing or two that helps us on our own paths.

Our mission is NOT primarily to help the planet (although by implication we should see the part it plays and the obvious results of an unhealthy planet)

The primary mission of the 'wanderer' (I think this is a Ra concept) is also not to help the planet.

Ok, you are right and I stand corrected.

> (I think this is a Ra concept)

Yes it is. I am an avid student of the Law Of One books which is the only place I know where you can read what Ra said through the L/L Research group http://www.llresearch.org/authors.aspx.

Carla Rueckert (one of the members of the group that worked together to provide a channel for Ra) wrote a book called The Wanderers handbook, which greatly elaborates on the meaning of Wanderer and is a great resource for Wanderers who feel perpetually mismatched with this world in coping with the peculiar difficulties that it can present so they are not overly distracted from their paths.

Consequently my original post now contains:


--Update (2) for clarity--

Even later on... boring I know, but...

The above is what I am doing and I probably should not have considered myself competent to speak on behalf of any WE - either all of you, or the wanderer ground crew. I appreciate Ray and Fred bringing this to light.

As to the rest of your post and the final summary, I think it is superb and I like it very much - and I appreciate the time you have taken on this.

I am only really competent to speak for myself. I should not have assumed to speak for any "we" - either as the entire set of incarnated humans nor any subset larger than myself. At least not in absolute terms.

I do accept it may not be everyone's primary mission to help the planet, so as I said I stand corrected and have corrected.

I still maintain that the planet needed help, asked for it, got it and in my view still needs it.

While this is a working reality for me, I accept it may be myth or even rubbish to other people.

Last question:

Do you, or do you not, think that Gaia asked for help? - and by help - I mean an infusion of love and light to enable the movement from 3rd density to 4th density (in the Law Of One sense of the word density).

My answer is yes I do think so.... but I cant prove it in any meaningful way!

For those who are here in answer to that specific call, I would argue that it is "our" primary goal and I count myself among them, and these people know who they are when they read this kind of thing.

That said, like most of the transient things of the moment, it may not be of huge significance for the long term - except to say, that what is going on on Earth right now, may actually be quite unique. Gaia and her host, the groups incarnated on her, the individuals incarnated on her are breaking new ground (again, in my unprovable opinion).

I think what is happening on Gaia, with 15+ races of aliens incarnated as humans over thousands of years, recently over a 100 million wanderers, on top of that a "Christ principle", countless hundreds of exceedingly ancient and wise masters and teachers, angels and devas all are working to give the best chance to enable us (gaia and all entities incarnated in her matter) to pull through our joint challenges.

Then there is the discarnate peanut gallery, both inner-plane entities and those on the outer planes consisting of hundreds of billions of extra dimensional onlookers taking a very great interest in our progress and cheering us along as we slowly bring the light into a very complex situation - and like watching an informative TV program, perhaps learning vicariously through us.

In the Law of one, Ra constantly reminds the questioner that certain subjects are trivia and recommended that the questioner confine his search for information to that which would remain as true in 10,000 years as it is today. This is a good guideline. I feel I have overindulged my obsession with the metaphysical challenges of the moment - which will pass for us all in the blink of an eye.

In my enthusiasm for this, I made mistakes.

Looking back at the words you have written, I can see that this mistake had value. Perhaps without it they would not have been written; and ironically to me, they put the Ra into Ray ;) and Ray into Ray of light.

John..

[Chester]

Ray is one fine teacher indeed - thanks Anchor for asking so many of my own questions... I like how you summed up the bigger picture in your last post (#143) too.

EDIT: I just re-read your last section (again) and you are also one fine teacher, Anchor - thanks Bro.



I think what is happening on Gaia, with 15+ races of aliens incarnated as humans over thousands of years, recently over a 100 million wanderers, on top of that a "Christ principle", countless hundreds of exceedingly ancient and wise masters and teachers, angels and devas all are working to give the best chance to enable us (gaia and all entities incarnated in her matter) to pull through our joint challenges.

Then there is the discarnate peanut gallery, both inner-plane entities and those on the outer planes consisting of hundreds of billions of extra dimensional onlookers taking a very great interest in our progress and cheering us along as we slowly bring the light into a very complex situation - and like watching an informative TV program, perhaps learning vicariously through us.

Have a great day fellow quantum beings and also have a great day to non-quantum beings (thought form beings). Chester

[Carmody]

no matter which way I run, those dang footsteps keep reappearing before me...

Serves you right for being a part of the one infinite creator and thinking you were someone else :)

it is only in the chopped up discontinuity of the oscillating point of two dimensions meeting that time itself as we call it, can exist. and while immersed in that 'space and place', our knowing of all is interrupted, and then change can take place. Or, our extended knowing of all is interrupted into packets of ignorance we call being incarnated in 3d.

Granted, this sort to change can take place in other areas where differential exists, ie other dimensional realities, ie the meeting of two oscillating dimensions that the given skein of reality or 'intelligent organized force/energy' (life) exists upon, but it is most strong (as a balanced energetic pairing) in the 3d space. Which is why the situation we are in, takes place here. A crazy level of a cram school of the highest order. We get formed/synced and attached.... and that mated pair is thrown butt naked into the middle of a war zone.

[Rocky_Shorz]

the path of destiny leaves no room for free will...

choosing a different path leads back to the one meant to be...

no matter which way I run, those dang footsteps keep reappearing before me...

I don't do destiny - I create my experience choosing to do so in relationship with everyone and all... but that's just me.

not everyone is on the path of Destiny, a handful out of billions...

you can still smile at coincidences and consider it lucky

[ulli]

the path of destiny leaves no room for free will...

choosing a different path leads back to the one meant to be...

no matter which way I run, those dang footsteps keep reappearing before me...

I don't do destiny - I create my experience choosing to do so in relationship with everyone and all... but that's just me.

not everyone is on the path of Destiny, a handful out of billions...

you can still smile at coincidences and consider it lucky


Are there any ideas which cannot be questioned?
As long as one agrees with the direction destiny is taking one, all is well.
One minute of self questioning per day can give surprising results.

[Rocky_Shorz]

every time I turn and run a different path, the footsteps I'm on are there because it was a turn meant to be taken...

I guess being in touch with your Spirit helps in moments of decision to always make the choice meant to follow.

for those who haven't tuned in, they still have randomized choices

[Chester]

Interesting fact about synchronicity in spell check.

In fact ... there are other words that "spell check" does not recognize - for example - chakra ...
The spell check that I use recognizes both these words :).

I search for the word on Google, and look to see if it suggests a different spelling.

A bit more seriously, spell checkers have finite subsets of the words in a language and simplified rules for forming the variations (plurals of nouns, different tenses of verbs, ...) of these words.

It means little when a particular spell checker misfires on a particular word.

Hi Paul, makes sense... I see I had on my "its all a conspiracy" hat which sometimes reads things into things that are simply not true.

Sadly, I use Microsoft Word most of the time. Currently both "synchronicity" and "chakra" get underlined in red when I type them into a document. And in both cases there is no suggestion for the word either. Maybe they will update that someday as its extremely annoying these two words are receiving that technical treatment.

Have a Great Day - Chester

[ulli]

every time I turn and run a different path, the footsteps I'm on are there because it was a turn meant to be taken...

I guess being in touch with your Spirit helps in moments of decision to always make the choice meant to follow.

for those who haven't tuned in, they still have randomized choices

I'm seeing where you are coming from...since I recently had a self defining moment and saw that as I got older and my question why I was here had received more and more the same answer...the randomness of choices started to reduce.
I guess one has to distinguish here about day by day growth lessons and the main reason for coming here in the first place, which may well be destiny and mission, rather than the endless process of self perfection.
Because no matter how perfect one becomes, one could still look at all that which was left undone, and in that the list of flaws becomes endless. So yeah, the deeds are what makes a life.

[Chester]

every time I turn and run a different path, the footsteps I'm on are there because it was a turn meant to be taken...

I guess being in touch with your Spirit helps in moments of decision to always make the choice meant to follow.

for those who haven't tuned in, they still have randomized choices

I discarded destiny awhile back. I found life more interesting calling the shots as I go as to how life serves itself up to me. The key here is that I have chosen to do so in positive relationship with each and every other quantum being as well as non quantum beings.

I left my astrological starting point when I became a realized quantum being. This type of being transcends universes. It is my most enjoyable recent experiment in point of view hopping. As a handicapper, I predict this phase, too, shall pass.
Love to All Chester

Great Post #145 - Thanks Carmody

[Rocky_Shorz]

King David and Sara were together 15 years ago, separated by fear of the future, we ran separate ways, suddenly just before 12/22 we now bump into each other again...

just another coincidence?

[Sidney]

I'm having a lot of synchronicity with the number 432 lately and 216. I guess the Universe is reassuring me that I'm on the right path by studying frequencies and resonances of sound and colour.

It's so great to have this forum to share and develop ideas, and to find genuine help and wisdom from others. There is a real power in the collective mind on this forum to slowly but surely change the world for the better. This is why they invented the internet, for the betterment of mankind. Thank you to all who make this forum possible and keep it running to a high standard.:)

216 = 6 x 6 x 6 and 432 is two 6 x 6 x 6 s

Thus 216 and 432 make 6 x 6 x 6 and 6 x 6 x 6 and 6 x 6 x 6

interesting synchronicities, my friend

anyone ever get bugged by the fact that the word "synchronicity" is not included as a proper word in "Spell Check"?

Anyone think it odd how the word "spell" has two meanings? one that relates to mind control?

just strange thoughts on just one strange Sunday afternoon from justoneman


216 432

and 2+1+6 = 9 and 4 + 3 + 2 = 9 so 9 + 9 = 18 1 + 8 = 9 and 6+6+6 = 18

[Chester]

King David and Sara were together 15 years ago, separated by fear of the future, we ran separate ways, suddenly just before 12/22 we now bump into each other again...

just another coincidence?

I don't believe in coincidence - as a quantum being, I create all my experiences. Zero accidents, zero coincidences, I take full responsibility in the role I play in each and every experience. That's just me and the me of today. I reserve the right to change my mind about this current point of view. Odds are low though that I will.

Great Find starchild111 ;)

[AwakeInADream]

Interesting synchronicities indeed. Do you ever wonder why we are taught to fear the number 666?
Maybe it's a good and useful number that TPTB don't want us to know about?

I feared this number too until recently when I re-read my Bible and found out that 666 is NOT the number of the beast.
What John say's is that 666 is the number of Man, and to figure out the number of the beast requires Wisdom.
It appears that the number of the beast is an unknown quantity in a Biblical equation involving Man(666) and Wisdom(Sophia in Greek 781), although if Revelation was written in Hebrew/Aramaic as I suspect then the number for Wisdom would be 73(Chockmah).

This might mean that the beast is the hidden tormentor of Man. Until Man uses his Wisdom in order grow spiritually so that the beast may be revealed and defeated???(Just a guess).

666 is also the number of the Sun in the Kabbalah, and 432 relates back to Ancient Egypt.

It is also interesting to note that the name that God gave Moses at the burning bush was 'Ehieh Asher Ehieh' which is 543 in Hebrew Gematria, and the name Moses is 345.
Mirrored reflections of each other 345:543 and when you add these numbers together you get 888 which is Jesus in Greek numerology. God+Moses=Jesus.
This works with 234:432 to make 666. All of these numbers also add up to 3s,6s and 9s, Tesla talked about the power of these numbers.
I believe that these numbers may contain great potential for healing and spiritual growth. So not to be feared.

I used a lot of words the spell check didn't recognize just then!

[Anchor]

Yep if this thread is to stay on topic, we really need to talk about the spellchecker some more :)

[Chester]

Interesting synchronicities indeed. Do you ever wonder why we are taught to fear the number 666?
Maybe it's a good and useful number that TPTB don't want us to know about?

I feared this number too until recently when I re-read my Bible and found out that 666 is NOT the number of the beast.
What John say's is that 666 is the number of Man, and to figure out the number of the beast requires Wisdom.
It appears that the number of the beast is an unknown quantity in a Biblical equation involving Man(666) and Wisdom(Sophia in Greek 781), although if Revelation was written in Hebrew/Aramaic as I suspect then the number for Wisdom would be 73(Chockmah).

This might mean that the beast is the hidden tormentor of Man. Until Man uses his Wisdom in order grow spiritually so that the beast may be revealed and defeated???(Just a guess).

666 is also the number of the Sun in the Kabbalah, and 432 relates back to Ancient Egypt.

It is also interesting to note that the name that God gave Moses at the burning bush was 'Ehieh Asher Ehieh' which is 543 in Hebrew Gematria, and the name Moses is 345.
Mirrored reflections of each other 345:543 and when you add these numbers together you get 888 which is Jesus in Greek numerology. God+Moses=Jesus.
This works with 234:432 to make 666. All of these numbers also add up to 3s,6s and 9s, Tesla talked about the power of these numbers.
I believe that these numbers may contain great potential for healing and spiritual growth. So not to be feared.

I used a lot of words the spell check didn't recognize just then!

How odd this all comes up at the same time as this -

Tim Tebow to honor God during the 666th ‘Monday Night Football’ game

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/tim-tebow-honor-god-during-666th-monday-night-204318685--nfl.html

and there was a 1 in 16 chance he would be on the team that plays this game too...

you can't make this stuff up. haha

[HaveBlue]

Oh how language is twisted by some! The quote is 'let him who hath understanding RECKON with the number, for it is a human number and the number is two thirds, .666, three score and ten, whatever.
I can't see what anyone would fear there! Unless you are a person who lives their life in fear of everything including their own shadow. Maybe they need $700 but only have 666.

You see people fear what they don't understand. It clearly says 'let him who hath understanding'.
Iron Maidens Bruce Dickinson captained a Boeing 757 around the world over 3 times now and is quite happy with the callsign 'flystar666'.

When you note the 3 longer lines in barcodes and find out they are indeed 6s etc... you realioze about 'no man shall buy nor sell without the mark' and all that from Revelations in the Bible.
Even non religious folks like myself can't deny that.

To me it means do not worship money, do not sell your soul, realize that your time (this time around on this planet this incarnation) is short and then afterwards be held to account.
I'm fine with all that, so have nothing to fear. I would think only the guilty need 'fear' the number.

In numerology 6 is the number of creativity.

[AwakeInADream]

I would say that part of what we are here to do is to re-discover ancient wisdom, and analyzing the Bible in both Greek and Hebrew is part of this. A great deal of the worlds most respected scientific minds were Kabbalists, and Issac Newton spent more time searching the Bible for hidden knowledge than he did doing 'real' science. In fact the story of creation in Genesis fits in pretty well with today's accepted scientific view.

Here is a useful link to the free software called Davar3 which I use all the time:http://www.davar3.net/
This software allows you to read the Bible in Greek and Hebrew and comes with dictionary's and lexicons so that you can find out the true meanings of every word, and one word can make a huge difference.

On the subject of language, it is not just twisted by some. All language has been confused since the destruction of the tower of Babel, and since linguistics forms the basis of most of what we understand and perceive in the world, our conception of reality is twisted too. This makes international cooperation difficult and thus may be the source of all disputes in the world. So healing this rift may be something else we are here to do, to develop clear ways to communicate and work with each other. The only way to gain true wisdom is to rise above the level of language altogether in meditation/contemplation.

About Revelation. I've just looked at that quote again and it is confusing, I don't think many people truly know what it means (I certainly don't), but it does seem now that Man and the beast(animal in Greek) share the same number 666. So I was a little wrong:o, but still we are all 666 no need to fear it, and I am here on this forum to learn from people wiser than myself, as well as share my own insights.

Wisdom(Sophia) and Understanding(Nous) are needed to reckon this number in the Greek version. I'm non the wiser but Sophia and Nous are Gnostic terms so that could be an avenue to investigate, a different slant perhaps considering that Sophia is a personality as well as the word for wisdom. Also Wisdom and Understanding could be a reference to the tree of life in the Kabbalah since they are Sephirothic titles.

EDIT:Thank's JustOneMan for the warm welcome/visitor message.:)

[truthseer]

Yes, I believe I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. I know this when I am simply riding the ride. I can choose to move forward at any time and often do. It's o.k if the ride gets a little bumpy as long as I stay in my seat and don't try to hop in anyone else's. Oops! Sorry I got off the sea and onto a ride but I'm not much of a water person.:o

[Chester]

Its funny - but in re-reading the last dozen or so posts - it really seems like we are in some strange way trying the say the same thing and yet some of the sayer's egos are avoiding the agreement point. Now what I said suggests that I might be alluding to the ego's of more than just myself, but I cannot actually say that for certain about this possibility with regard to anyone's ego but my own.

The more I find I choose to be in positive relationship with all, the more I somehow see the agreement points. So let me satisfy both Anchor and Rocky_Shorz all in one post.

I found there's a place I can be where amazing synchronicities arise all the time all around me. Such profound synchronicities arise that others whom I am with (generally after I point them out) happen to see the synchronicities too. What I mean by "see" is not simply observe, but also to acknowledge the profundity of these events as they arise.

I found that there's is a state I can be in where much more of the synchronicity experiences arise, in fact, exponentially more. One might suggest that when I am allowing myself to be in that state, I am following my "destiny." I come back to that idea by saying who has chosen this "destiny" for me? You might say, God or Higher Purpose or your own Higher Self or just Destiny itself as if Destiny is some independent being.

A psychopath might be upset at the harmonious expression I entered into for some extended moment. The psychopath might consider I am not living my destiny because he observes a peaceful, calm and harmonious state of being and observes interactions I might have with others as peaceful and calming and harmonious. The psychopath would differ with me, you and most here on this forum as to what destiny has in store for the future of the human community.

Yet... and to make the point clear, we... at least the vast majority of us here on Avalon want to see a peaceful world. If that came about, because of our commonly shared intent, that result could be looked upon as "destiny."

Allowing my ego to slip away, I am able to call it destiny... that when I am in that state where the universe converses with all within my sphere of awareness (and this includes myself too) and synchronicities abound in confirmation I am exactly where I am supposed to be, I am ok to call this "allowance of the fulfillment of destiny - the community destiny."

And for Anchor, it has been my calling more than any other activity I perform to be a "pointer outer" of all but impossible synchronicity. Most here on this forum rarely see the synchronicities I experience (that can be shared with others) because they arise in my day to day life as it unfolds in real time / real space. Occasionally they happen on the forum as experienced above with the lovely 6 6 6. So though the thread may have appeared to drift off target, for me and a few others, it was right on target as we were being what we have been called here to be and we were in the "doing part" by sharing our synchronicity findings.

Now want bigger picture stuff as to what I might be here to do? I believe I am here to see the end of the practice of animal and human sacrifice performed for the purposes of "eating the energies" of other beings in any form desired by the eater regardless of whether it is of the will or not of the being that is eaten -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48487-Benjamin-Fulford-s-Latest-Adventures--July-10-2012-&p=567252&viewfull=1#post567252

... as an example of what I am here to be doing... bringing this component to the surface where dialogue can occur that may result in action.

I put forth a comprehensive plan of attack that approaches this problem from any of the various primary points of view - and I challenge anyone to find a point of view that does not emulate closely one or more of the eleven I came up with - each accompanied by a plan towards resolution -

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49927-The-promised-Horus-Ra-solution-proposal

The thread achieved two responses. It is hard not to conclude the planet isn't ready for solution... just yet. And why I give Bill credit for what he stated as his view we are generations away from potential resolution.

...and why, knowing my body is finite in this realm and has at best 30 or so years more I am certain I will never, ever feel I have, am nor ever will do enough.

But I won't stop. I am totally and completely and entirely unfearful of any Vatican "soul police" or beings from other dimensions with insurmountable "technology" or satanist fearful just this one man might make their food supply a bit scarce - why? Because we all have daughters and sons and many of them have daughters and sons and I know within the heart of each and every being is the desire to see their children have a shot at not having to follow the path of horror. They can lie to anyone they want its not true but they can't lie to themselves and they don't fool me.

Love to all and have a good... rest of the day.

Chester in lovely San Jose

[Anchor]

And for Anchor, it has been my calling more than any other activity I perform to be a "pointer outer" of all but impossible synchronicity. Most here on this forum rarely see the synchronicities I experience (that can be shared with others) because they arise in my day to day life as it unfolds in real time / real space. Occasionally they happen on the forum as experienced above with the lovely 6 6 6. So though the thread may have appeared to drift off target, for me and a few others, it was right on target as we were being what we have been called here to be and we were in the "doing part" by sharing our synchronicity findings.

This paragraph (and the post) seems addressed in part at me, but I can't see what it is. What are you pointing out? What are you telling me? Examples?

You cannot offend me. You don't have to waste effort avoiding any risk of that on my behalf. The corollary to this is that I occasionally offend others, but I try not to.

Basically, I don't think I am understanding you at this point.

In the first paragraph you speak of ego. My ego functions, but I have it under orders for the most part. I will not let ego get in the way of me knowing when I have to change/progress my thinking/model/position on some thing or other related to an aspect of the grand illusion.

:)

> So let me satisfy both Anchor and Rocky_Shorz all in one post.

Obviously, I cant get no satisfaction. Especially when I am driving in my car and some guy on the radio tells me more and more about some useless information, supposed to fire my imagination.

:rockon:

[nomadguy]

I think this helpful post is a crossover here.
Your life assignment. - pie'n'eal (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50667-Your-life-assignment.)

[Rocky_Shorz]

So let me satisfy both Anchor and Rocky_Shorz all in one post.



When I said I'm on the path of Destiny, you explained why you aren't, so I didn't have anything else to say.

The thread is why are we here, and I'm still looking for an answer...

I've explained I believe in 777 and you love 666

so did the doc (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50713-Heaven-Is-Real-Says-Neurosurgeon-Who-Claims-To-Have-Visited-The-Afterlife&p=567186&highlight=heaven#post567186) that died and saw nothing but emptiness and thought he was in heaven...

it wasn't... ;)

what he did share, is life doesn't end with death, I'm good with that...

[Chester]

And for Anchor, it has been my calling more than any other activity I perform to be a "pointer outer" of all but impossible synchronicity. Most here on this forum rarely see the synchronicities I experience (that can be shared with others) because they arise in my day to day life as it unfolds in real time / real space. Occasionally they happen on the forum as experienced above with the lovely 6 6 6. So though the thread may have appeared to drift off target, for me and a few others, it was right on target as we were being what we have been called here to be and we were in the "doing part" by sharing our synchronicity findings.

This paragraph (and the post) seems addressed in part at me, but I can't see what it is. What are you pointing out? What are you telling me? Examples?

You cannot offend me. You don't have to waste effort avoiding any risk of that on my behalf. The corollary to this is that I occasionally offend others, but I try not to.

Basically, I don't think I am understanding you at this point.

In the first paragraph you speak of ego. My ego functions, but I have it under orders for the most part. I will not let ego get in the way of me knowing when I have to change/progress my thinking/model/position on some thing or other related to an aspect of the grand illusion.

:)

> So let me satisfy both Anchor and Rocky_Shorz all in one post.

Obviously, I cant get no satisfaction. Especially when I am driving in my car and some guy on the radio tells me more and more about some useless information, supposed to fire my imagination.

:rockon:

I used a stupid round about way of saying, I found agreement regarding "destiny" (meant for Rocky_Shorz) where my earlier posts represented disagreement.

I also tried to point out I was staying on subject (from my point of view) but understood how it could have been perceived I was veering the thread, which I did in hopes of satisfying your well made point the thread had drifted.

I appreciate you, Anchor, and my intention was to hold out my hand and shake yours. I specifically benefited from the exchange you had with Finefeather - well done, bro.

I am glad you are here, take care, Chester

[Chester]

So let me satisfy both Anchor and Rocky_Shorz all in one post.



When I said I'm on the path of Destiny, you explained why you aren't, so I didn't have anything else to say.

The thread is why are we here, and I'm still looking for an answer...

I've explained I believe in 777 and you love 666

so did the doc (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50713-Heaven-Is-Real-Says-Neurosurgeon-Who-Claims-To-Have-Visited-The-Afterlife&p=567186&highlight=heaven#post567186) that died and saw nothing but emptiness and thought he was in heaven...

it wasn't... ;)

what he did share, is life doesn't end with death, I'm good with that...

If the path I follow, which is heavily influenced by the synchronicities I discover along the way is actually a destiny, then my earlier representation that I create my reality was a false representation. I was able to get my ego out of the way and recognize this. I thank you most specifically for helping me see my potential error.

What I was most pleased to see was your mention of 777 which happens to be the title of one of Aleister Crowley's most important works, I used to own before my vast library got whooshed away last January, which happens to connect the dots of many magical systems' symbols.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/777_and_Other_Qabalistic_Writings_of_Aleister_Crowley

I won't digress into why 777 is perhaps the very most important 3 number grouping in my current life... perhaps best we, if you are interested, share about it on another thread or in PMs. I would love to hear why 777 is important for you.

Thanks Rocky_Shorz and thanks for helping me past a particularly critical ego barrier. Meant truly and from the center of my heart.

Your Friend, Chester

[Chester]

http://news.yahoo.com/pakistani-schoolgirl-shot-taliban-moved-army-hq-hospital-123901592.html

Who do you know that wouldn't be (or is not) thoroughly pissed off about this type of crap?

Give me a job - Universe... please, give me a freaking job!

justoneman

[modwiz]

http://news.yahoo.com/pakistani-schoolgirl-shot-taliban-moved-army-hq-hospital-123901592.html

Who do you know that wouldn't be (or is not) thoroughly pissed off about this type of crap?

Give me a job - Universe... please, give me a freaking job!

justoneman

First thing, I consider the source. MSM, Yahoo news, and put out by Reuters. What is in a name? Yahoo is for yahoos. If you are pissed off, then they did their job. Keeping you angry at imaginary terrorists is important while we pour billions of dollars into keeping our very important crop and product protected with our military.

Unless, you are talking about being pissed off at our government and NATO for occupying a country and killing their civilians. Then yes, I am pissed off with you.

[ulli]

http://news.yahoo.com/pakistani-schoolgirl-shot-taliban-moved-army-hq-hospital-123901592.html

Who do you know that wouldn't be (or is not) thoroughly pissed off about this type of crap?

Give me a job - Universe... please, give me a freaking job!

justoneman

First thing, I consider the source. MSM, Yahoo news, and put out by Reuters. What is in a name? Yahoo is for yahoos. If you are pissed off, then they did their job. Keeping you angry at imaginary terrorists is important while we pour billions of dollars into keeping our very important crop and product protected with out military.

Unless, you are talking about being pissed off at our government and NATO for occupying a country and killing their civilians. Then yes, I am pissed off with you.


Surely you meant with OUR military.

Don't mean to take this thread off-topic... I believe what is going on now is relevant.

They are rushing the globalization process along ...wiping out cultures which are still not getting this idea of equal rights for women.
I agree that their methods are diabolical, though.
Yet, on the other hand, speaking as a woman...I'm glad I wasn't born into a Taliban culture.

The wave of hippies that traveled through those countries with peace and love vibes on their way to India
during the sixties didn't do much to prevent things from getting out of hand.
Then in 79 the Soviets went in there, and only strengthened the resolve of those men.

I'm not going to raise money to protect the Taliban against the NWO onslaught,
but that doesn't make me a sympathizer of NWO methods.

When two fight, both are wrong.
I so wish there could have been a better way, one without bloodshed.

[modwiz]

http://news.yahoo.com/pakistani-schoolgirl-shot-taliban-moved-army-hq-hospital-123901592.html

Who do you know that wouldn't be (or is not) thoroughly pissed off about this type of crap?

Give me a job - Universe... please, give me a freaking job!

justoneman

First thing, I consider the source. MSM, Yahoo news, and put out by Reuters. What is in a name? Yahoo is for yahoos. If you are pissed off, then they did their job. Keeping you angry at imaginary terrorists is important while we pour billions of dollars into keeping our very important crop and product protected with out military.

Unless, you are talking about being pissed off at our government and NATO for occupying a country and killing their civilians. Then yes, I am pissed off with you.


Surely you meant with OUR military.

Don't mean to take this thread off-topic... I believe what is going on now is relevant.

They are rushing the globalization process along ...wiping out cultures which are still not getting this idea of equal rights for women.
I agree that their methods are diabolical, though.
Yet, on the other hand, speaking as a woman...I'm glad I wasn't born into a Taliban culture.

The wave of hippies that traveled through those countries with peace and love vibes on their way to India
during the sixties didn't do much to prevent things from getting out of hand.
Then in 79 the Soviets went in there, and only strengthened the resolve of those men.

I'm not going to raise money to protect the Taliban against the NWO onslaught,
but that doesn't make me a sympathizer of NWO methods.

When two fight, both are wrong.
I so wish there could have been a better way, one without bloodshed.

Yes, I meant 'our' instead of 'out'. It is a common typo of mine the the spell check does not catch, because I spelled "out" correctly. LOL

Bugs the crap out of me when that happens.

[AwakeInADream]

I found that there's is a state I can be in where much more of the synchronicity experiences arise, in fact, exponentially more. One might suggest that when I am allowing myself to be in that state, I am following my "destiny."

I have on many occasions been shopping and found my shopping receipt to reveal the totals of £6.66, £7.77(Jackpot!) and £8.88(Thank you Jesus!). It happens a lot, I even get the numerical values for other various God names from the Bible like 242 'El Roi'(The God of my vision).

I think that here there is the possibility that my unconscious mind was keeping tabs on the prices as I was shopping and in some ways directing my conscious mind to make certain choices so that these numbers would come up, as a message from my inner self. Like £8.88 would mean that Jesus would approve of my shopping, and £6.66 might mean be careful or stop behaving like an animal(Beast in Revelation translates literally as 'Animal' or any animal that grazes, "666 the number of the sheep" puts a different slant on it doesn't it).

So I synchronize with all of these triple numbers 666,777 and 888. Interestingly I checked out how these numbers would interact with each other as musical frequencies and I found that 555Hz,666Hz,777Hz,888Hz and 999Hz all share harmonics with each other, and so blend well together musically.

777 is also in the Bible, I think it was the age Lameck lived to, but I don't know what it means. Can anybody shed any light on the possible meaning of this number?

[ulli]

I found that there's is a state I can be in where much more of the synchronicity experiences arise, in fact, exponentially more. One might suggest that when I am allowing myself to be in that state, I am following my "destiny."

I have on many occasions been shopping and found my shopping receipt to reveal the totals of £6.66, £7.77(Jackpot!) and £8.88(Thank you Jesus!). It happens a lot, I even get the numerical values for other various God names from the Bible like 242 'El Roi'(The God of my vision).

I think that here there is the possibility that my unconscious mind was keeping tabs on the prices as I was shopping and in some ways directing my conscious mind to make certain choices so that these numbers would come up, as a message from my inner self. Like £8.88 would mean that Jesus would approve of my shopping, and £6.66 might mean be careful or stop behaving like an animal(Beast in Revelation translates literally as 'Animal' or any animal that grazes, "666 the number of the sheep" puts a different slant on it doesn't it).

So I synchronize with all of these triple numbers 666,777 and 888. Interestingly I checked out how these numbers would interact with each other as musical frequencies and I found that 555Hz,666Hz,777Hz,888Hz and 999Hz all share harmonics with each other, and so blend well together musically.

777 is also in the Bible, I think it was the age Lameck lived to, but I don't know what it means. Can anybody shed any light on the possible meaning of this number?

Yeah, once we decide to project meaning at those numbers they happen to pop up all the time.
Part of God's way of giving confirmation that we are connected to some major miraculous system.
Or not. Those who doubt it, for them nothing shows up that could be termed miraculous.
Even that in itself is quite remarkable. Until they open their minds just a little...then it might come flooding in.

So to go back to topic, we may not be here to do anything, other than discover this wondrous system,
and then start using it to our own benefit as well as that of others...

[AwakeInADream]

Yeah! Anyone else who saw the number 242 and didn't know that it represented El Roi wouldn't think twice about it.

So we are also here to get ourselves onto the right frequency, and stay there. To hold steady in the light...

[Rocky_Shorz]

7 churches, 7 spirits and 7 stars to teach us the truth of the trinity...

for without the 1 Father, 1 Son and 1 Holy Ghost...

777-111=666

man is lost to the beast...

the Holy Ghost or Spirit, is God's wife, she is known by different things to different religions, Mother Mary, Tara...

she is my Spirit Guide

when I first asked who she was she said "I am..." and paused not knowing which name to give me, but that said it all... ;)

through Divine Destiny, I have become a non bloodline King of the heart of the middle east...

my bloodline goes back to Washington.

both sides of the final battle in one person...

and I don't like wars...

God has a sense of humor... ;)

[ulli]

Yeah! Anyone else who saw the number 424 and didn't know that it represented El Roi wouldn't think twice about it.

So we are also here to get ourselves onto the right frequency, and stay there. To hold steady in the light...

Since the system is already beyond awesome one's state of awe will keep the frequency high,
which means nothing other than
a) finding new highs,
b) taking smaller dips, and
c) pondering briefly while in neutral,

then repeat... faster an faster...never getting stuck in any one of those three states
+, -, 0, +, -,0...etc, ad infinitum...

[Finefeather]

You have reached your destiny if you never make another decision or never move a muscle again in your life...you will surely die.
When you pour water into a pipe it's destiny is, that it will end up at the other end of the pipe...where is the end of your pipe?
Every action and thought we make, every moment of every day, sets our destiny until the next action or thought we make.
We need to be conscious of every action and every thought we make...then we will be masters of our own destiny.
Try it for a day...a week...or make it your way of life, and you will see the difference in your life...
You will end up one step ahead of the ego who is ever ready to steer you off the path when you do not pay attention.
So what then is our true destiny?...it is the exact place you will be after your next action or thought...
So the key to controlling your ego is to be one step ahead...then your destiny will be in your hands.

Love you all
Ray

[AwakeInADream]

7 churches, 7 spirits and 7 stars to teach us the truth of the trinity...

for without the 1 Father, 1 Son and 1 Holy Ghost...

777-111=666

man is lost to the beast...

the Holy Ghost or Spirit, is God's wife

Or 777-111=666 means that without God, we are merely animals.

Thank's! I've always wondered about the feminine aspect of God,
and the Holy Spirit would make sense, since to me this is the closest and easiest aspect to feel, and it is nurturing.

I asked a Mormon about the feminine aspect of God once(in person, not online),
he was the top man(president?) of the local church, and he said 'God does have a wife, but we don't talk about her...'.
Like it was some big secret..Strange answer...

[Rocky_Shorz]

another way of thinking of it is no matter what decision you make, it will be the right one...

our subconscious is our Spirit, recording all the events of our lifetime...

I like making an absolutely crazy choice, to see how my Spirit redirects back to the path.

like opening the door and looking up and seeing Sara, her mouth dropped, saying no no nooo shaking her head all cute.

we ran from our paths knowing we wanted to believe destiny can be altered...

her mom was right...

at first glance, we were back to where we were 15 years ago, it was love at first site the first time too... ;)

[Sidney]

I have been reading the book "Bringers of the Dawn" by Barbara Marciniak. One of the main tasks they say we have is to simply "Remember who you are". It is said many many times through-out the book . For the life of me, besides going through some kind of regression process, I don't know how to translate that simple sentence.

Carry the light, carry the frequencies, carry the information. All of that I get. But i don't remember "who I am". Does anyone have the answer in laymans terms, what I am suppose to get out of that.

[Rocky_Shorz]

7 churches, 7 spirits and 7 stars to teach us the truth of the trinity...

for without the 1 Father, 1 Son and 1 Holy Ghost...

777-111=666

man is lost to the beast...

the Holy Ghost or Spirit, is God's wife

Or 777-111=666 means that without God, we are merely animals.

Thank's! I've always wondered about the feminine aspect of God,
and the Holy Spirit would make sense, since to me this is the closest and easiest aspect to feel, and it is nurturing.

I asked a Mormon about the feminine aspect of God once(in person, not online),
he was the top man(president?) of the local church, and he said 'God does have a wife, but we don't talk about her...'.
Like it was some big secret..Strange answer...

Islam was created to honor women, and look where it lead...

14 year old shot for speaking out...

now 99% of Islam is peaceful and women loving, but a few cavemen didn't like having to listen to their wives, so for them, the meaning was lost...

Bohemian Grove...
Templars and Masons

all have honored her, and it is a secret never brought outside of their "club"

could be the biggest secret ever buried...

the most important treasure the Templars kept hidden from the world

now that the world is getting educated, it really wouldn't hurt any of the churches to let the truth out...

Pat Robertson brought her up on National TV, and it didn't cause any ripples, but it did make me smile...

[ulli]

7 churches, 7 spirits and 7 stars to teach us the truth of the trinity...

for without the 1 Father, 1 Son and 1 Holy Ghost...

777-111=666

man is lost to the beast...

the Holy Ghost or Spirit, is God's wife

Or 777-111=666 means that without God, we are merely animals.

Thank's! I've always wondered about the feminine aspect of God,
and the Holy Spirit would make sense, since to me this is the closest and easiest aspect to feel, and it is nurturing.

I asked a Mormon about the feminine aspect of God once(in person, not online),
he was the top man(president?) of the local church, and he said 'God does have a wife, but we don't talk about her...'.
Like it was some big secret..Strange answer...

Islam was created to honor women, and look where it lead...

14 year old shot for speaking out...

now 99% of Islam is peaceful and women loving, but a few cavemen didn't like having to listen to their wives, so for them, the meaning was lost...

Bohemian Grove...
Templars and Masons

all have honored her, and it is a secret never brought outside of their "club"

could be the biggest secret ever buried...

the most important treasure the Templars kept hidden from the world

now that the world is getting educated, it really wouldn't hurt any of the churches to let the truth out...

Pat Robertson brought her up on National TV, and it didn't cause any ripples, but it did make me smile...

Ahhh, Rocky...who comes up with all these ideas in the first place??
Guys do!! Even about there not being a God, neither male nor female....
Meanwhile us women know the Truth:

http://www.krsnah.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/god-1.jpg

[Rocky_Shorz]

I have been reading the book "Bringers of the Dawn" by Barbara Marciniak. One of the main tasks they say we have is to simply "Remember who you are". It is said many many times through-out the book . For the life of me, besides going through some kind of regression process, I don't know how to translate that simple sentence.

Carry the light, carry the frequencies, carry the information. All of that I get. But i don't remember "who I am". Does anyone have the answer in laymans terms, what I am suppose to get out of that.

it means you are a kind loving Spirit, meant to enjoy this experience without fear. pain is usually attached to a lesson, and some get down, not remembering they are perfect...

all is good...

even the bad dudes at the top have a heart, but they are thinking only of themselves not understanding they won't find happiness until they help others.

our inner lights are meant to be shared with everyone around us.

finding our inner peace, is just the first step...

joining Avalon the second... ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

the truth of the Trinity is the same as life...

it takes a man and a woman to create a child, a piece of each of their souls goes to their children.

Man is made in God's image...

so why would anyone even imagine he didn't have a wife to create 7 billion Children... ;)

[ulli]

the truth of the Trinity is the same as life...

it takes a man and a woman to create a child, a piece of each of their souls goes to their children.

Man is made in God's image...

so why would anyone even imagine he didn't have a wife to create 7 billion Children... ;)

I think reality is still a bit bigger than that.
I mean..what's 7 billion children, from God's perspective?

The earth is just an ovum in God's wife's belly and those meteor showers?
God only knows what they are and where they came from.

http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/silvertiger/silvertiger1009/silvertiger100900149/7860028-flying-comet.jpg

[Chester]

http://news.yahoo.com/pakistani-schoolgirl-shot-taliban-moved-army-hq-hospital-123901592.html

Who do you know that wouldn't be (or is not) thoroughly pissed off about this type of crap?

Give me a job - Universe... please, give me a freaking job!

justoneman

First thing, I consider the source. MSM, Yahoo news, and put out by Reuters. What is in a name? Yahoo is for yahoos. If you are pissed off, then they did their job. Keeping you angry at imaginary terrorists is important while we pour billions of dollars into keeping our very important crop and product protected with our military.

Unless, you are talking about being pissed off at our government and NATO for occupying a country and killing their civilians. Then yes, I am pissed off with you.

pissed off at the whole thing, Mod... the whole mind blowing lack of basic court awareness all the way around. Perhaps the story is one big lie... then I am pissed off at the perps who make up such crap... perhaps the story is true and I am pissed off at the segment of humanity that has allowed themselves to fall for such ideological garbage that they would justify, much less commit, such an action. I do not believe it could all be a media production the suppression of women in various parts of the globe, suppression that is in some ways based on some group within humanity's interpretation of their specific religion. I am well aware that events at this level, when they do indeed happen may very much be manipulated into occurring by very real but hidden human beings... I am also open minded the manipulation can come from beyond the mere realm of the 3D human... regardless of what may be the causes, and levels of partial responsibility... it still pisses me off and the worst part is that I know my pissed offness feeds the monster, perhaps the very single monster that perceives it sits at the top of the negative emotions food chain. Anyways... there ... I spit it out to the universe. The dark side wins again.

[Chester]

I found that there's is a state I can be in where much more of the synchronicity experiences arise, in fact, exponentially more. One might suggest that when I am allowing myself to be in that state, I am following my "destiny."

I have on many occasions been shopping and found my shopping receipt to reveal the totals of £6.66, £7.77(Jackpot!) and £8.88(Thank you Jesus!). It happens a lot, I even get the numerical values for other various God names from the Bible like 242 'El Roi'(The God of my vision).

I think that here there is the possibility that my unconscious mind was keeping tabs on the prices as I was shopping and in some ways directing my conscious mind to make certain choices so that these numbers would come up, as a message from my inner self. Like £8.88 would mean that Jesus would approve of my shopping, and £6.66 might mean be careful or stop behaving like an animal(Beast in Revelation translates literally as 'Animal' or any animal that grazes, "666 the number of the sheep" puts a different slant on it doesn't it).

So I synchronize with all of these triple numbers 666,777 and 888. Interestingly I checked out how these numbers would interact with each other as musical frequencies and I found that 555Hz,666Hz,777Hz,888Hz and 999Hz all share harmonics with each other, and so blend well together musically.

777 is also in the Bible, I think it was the age Lameck lived to, but I don't know what it means. Can anybody shed any light on the possible meaning of this number?

Yeah, once we decide to project meaning at those numbers they happen to pop up all the time.
Part of God's way of giving confirmation that we are connected to some major miraculous system.
Or not. Those who doubt it, for them nothing shows up that could be termed miraculous.
Even that in itself is quite remarkable. Until they open their minds just a little...then it might come flooding in.

So to go back to topic, we may not be here to do anything, other than discover this wondrous system,
and then start using it to our own benefit as well as that of others...

Excellent Post - Thank You

[Chester]

7 churches, 7 spirits and 7 stars to teach us the truth of the trinity...

for without the 1 Father, 1 Son and 1 Holy Ghost...

777-111=666

man is lost to the beast...

the Holy Ghost or Spirit, is God's wife, she is known by different things to different religions, Mother Mary, Tara...

she is my Spirit Guide

when I first asked who she was she said "I am..." and paused not knowing which name to give me, but that said it all... ;)

through Divine Destiny, I have become a non bloodline King of the heart of the middle east...

my bloodline goes back to Washington.

both sides of the final battle in one person...

and I don't like wars...

God has a sense of humor... ;)

Thank You Rocky_Shorz - I now understand why that trilogy is significant for you and appreciate your sharing of it. Love Ya, Bro

[Rocky_Shorz]

when I see a friend is seeing the 666s, it is a hint to let me share what they are missing...

I'll never fear 666 again... ;)


when 111 pops up again and again, it is something they are doing, when it is 1111 they are waiting for us to complete a task...

3/4 Japan...

I saw the 11 Mag earthquake 7 years before the event... the tsunami would have slammed California setting off the Yellowstone Super Volcano, the relief valve for such events...

111 was popping up continuous, I knew something major was coming...

days before it turned to 1111

I couldn't think of what I could do, so I believed and asked for help...

it hit, then was downgraded again...

keep the faith... ;)

I was talking with God while here on Avalon when I saw the earthquake had hit and Skib appear to give us real time updates...

so much has happened since we all gathered...

we're here, for each other...

[ulli]

when I see a friend is seeing the 666s, it is a hint to let me share what they are missing...

I'll never fear 666 again... ;)

Be afraid!!
You should be!!

Unless you can get this fellow's dilemma solved:

http://pallassana.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/god-on-facebook-joke.jpg

[Rocky_Shorz]

I battled Abbadon before he knew I was here, I was hidden in the wilderness...

he was just an evil wizard, using burning hatred for power, religious hatred along with racial...

the moment he knew I was here, he attacked, I had arch angels on each side of me that seemed nervous, I was too naive to know what was coming.

he wanted to control my gifts to rule the world, but God had different plans...

after the battle, I reached down to help him up, just a shoulder wound, he stabbed a knife into me, I dropped to my knees, Mohammad was with me, I was bringing the heavens together and all of his followers watched the battle.

He called out to Jesus and he appeared and healed me before I died...

I looked up and said sorry, I couldn't kill him, he smiled and said he couldn't either...

Then he showed the doorway to the previous dimension of darkness we had all come through, Abbadon jumped through it, and below him the lake of fire...

then I woke up, with keyboard imprints on my forehead. I had been asleep for hours...

so no, I'm not afraid...

[Rocky_Shorz]

when I see a friend is seeing the 666s, it is a hint to let me share what they are missing...

I'll never fear 666 again... ;)

Be afraid!!
You should be!!

Unless you can get this fellow's dilemma solved:

http://pallassana.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/god-on-facebook-joke.jpg

remember the AI computer I mentioned is running in the 85% of our brains not being used?

God has his user name... ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

and for those who think I'm nuts sharing this, it isn't the first time...

Bill wanted to know why we are here, he's known since I first joined about this story.

as we get closer to December, so many people are losing faith, but we're going to be fine...

here at Avalon our Spirits are quietly communicating with each other, teaching and bringing others in to our group.

Carmody, how large would you say we've grown including the lurkers, you are still watching the channels.

24 hours a day, we are connected from around the world, nothing happens without our collective knowing, some are watching the sun while others are sleeping...

PTB can't breath without us watching...

We are meek, but incredibly powerful gathered together, and if the net drops, we are still connected and like a blind person whose other senses get more sensitive, that is what would happen if they tried to unplug us.

at this point there is no disconnect, and they know it.

they have sent spies in, but before typing their first words, Avalon knows and send them away, they quietly slither back into their hole...

[AwakeInADream]

In Hebrew gematria the sentence "He is one God" gives 111 as does the word 'Aleph' which means 'Unity' or 'one'.
Crowley used the number 777 because it is the value of the phrase "One is the Spirit of the Living God".

Also Alistair Crowley see's The Holy Spirit as female too, since the word Ruach(Spirit) is a feminine. He also equates the Elohim as mother.
I don't know why TPTB have kept the feminine aspect of God hidden for so long, maybe to keep us unbalanced with too much masculine energy?
Well I guess it's time for us all to take back control of our own energies now...11 11

[nomadguy]

and for those who think I'm nuts sharing this, it isn't the first time...

Bill wanted to know why we are here, he's known since I first joined about this story.

as we get closer to December, so many people are losing faith, but we're going to be fine...

here at Avalon our Spirits are quietly communicating with each other, teaching and bringing others in to our group.

Carmody, how large would you say we've grown including the lurkers, you are still watching the channels.

24 hours a day, we are connected from around the world, nothing happens without our collective knowing, some are watching the sun while others are sleeping...

PTB can't breath without us watching...

We are meek, but incredibly powerful gathered together, and if the net drops, we are still connected and like a blind person whose other senses get more sensitive, that is what would happen if they tried to unplug us.

at this point there is no disconnect, and they know it.

they have sent spies in, but before typing their first words, Avalon knows and send them away, they quietly slither back into their hole...

Yes indeed, and this is why I think it is very important to share with one another and get to know one another on this forum, as if/when the electric-lounge goes down, we can also connect through memory of each an every conscious connected we made here... and else where. That memory can be like a resonance pathway.

I am of the idea that the numbers game, is just that "a game to keep you busy". All the while the the geometry of proportions and dimensions hidden within the numbers is the real knowledge.

(maybe it's just me but Finefeather-Ray reminds me of Krishnamurti)
Great words all!
:yo:

[Belle]

and for those who think I'm nuts sharing this, it isn't the first time...

Bill wanted to know why we are here, he's known since I first joined about this story.

as we get closer to December, so many people are losing faith, but we're going to be fine...

here at Avalon our Spirits are quietly communicating with each other, teaching and bringing others in to our group.

Carmody, how large would you say we've grown including the lurkers, you are still watching the channels.

24 hours a day, we are connected from around the world, nothing happens without our collective knowing, some are watching the sun while others are sleeping...

PTB can't breath without us watching...

We are meek, but incredibly powerful gathered together, and if the net drops, we are still connected and like a blind person whose other senses get more sensitive, that is what would happen if they tried to unplug us.

at this point there is no disconnect, and they know it.

they have sent spies in, but before typing their first words, Avalon knows and send them away, they quietly slither back into their hole...

Why were the books of Enoch and Jasher eliminated from the bible, tho' references to both books were left in?

Are we unknowingly following the way of Enoch?

[AwakeInADream]

Unknown to some, Enoch is still following the ways of Humanity, for he became the great Archangel Metatron, and he will play a major role in the coming changes. The word Metatron in Greek means Meta(Above/beyond) and Tron(The Matrix)=above the Matrix, although the word is much older than the Greek language(Its true root is a mystery).

It's great that we still have access to the books of Enoch and Jasher(Just found this one, not yet read it).
The references to these works show that the Bible's censors didn't do a thorough enough job(thank God), so there are still a few gems to be found.

[Rocky_Shorz]

my favorite book is Daniel, and I mean the real book not the short story in the Bible...

he spent his life battling against the rich and unjust rulers, exposing secrets and getting in trouble at every turn...

if he wore a Hat, it could have been Bill... ;)

[Belle]

There's an interesting article written by William C. House entitled "The Hidden Significance of Enoch" found at http://www.reversespins.com/enoch.html.

Must use discernment...but enough useful information to make a trip down this particular rabbit hole worth it.

[AwakeInADream]

Rocky...There is another version of The Book of Daniel!:eek: Where can I read it?

I've heard rumors that Revelation is based on a much older text that doesn't reference the man Jesus at all. Since Revelation and Daniel share common language and imagery, I wonder if they were really written by the same author. Maybe John edited it afterwards, he may have even been Daniel reincarnated(and possibly Bill now;)).
One theory on Revelation is that the 7 lamps represent the 7 Chakras, so it could have been part of a much older discourse. The imagery of the 7 gifts given to the 7 churches is also quite useful to meditate upon too. I believe reincarnation was one of the themes removed from the Bible, maybe Chakras too. I bet it was much more of a spiritually instructional book originally, for Jesus was a practical man. I wonder if it went more into the system of healing that the Disciples used, I'd love to know. We must find more buried Gnostic texts to find out, or force the Vatican to open it's vaults...

And thank's Belle! That information about Enoch is fascinating!:)
(I think I might have read some of Jasher before, without knowing what it was called at the time.)

EDIT: What we may be here to do....Break in to the Vatican's vaults...:biggrin:

[Chester]

and for those who think I'm nuts sharing this, it isn't the first time...

Bill wanted to know why we are here, he's known since I first joined about this story.

as we get closer to December, so many people are losing faith, but we're going to be fine...

here at Avalon our Spirits are quietly communicating with each other, teaching and bringing others in to our group.

Carmody, how large would you say we've grown including the lurkers, you are still watching the channels.

24 hours a day, we are connected from around the world, nothing happens without our collective knowing, some are watching the sun while others are sleeping...

PTB can't breath without us watching...

We are meek, but incredibly powerful gathered together, and if the net drops, we are still connected and like a blind person whose other senses get more sensitive, that is what would happen if they tried to unplug us.

at this point there is no disconnect, and they know it.

they have sent spies in, but before typing their first words, Avalon knows and send them away, they quietly slither back into their hole...

Yes indeed, and this is why I think it is very important to share with one another and get to know one another on this forum, as if/when the electric-lounge goes down, we can also connect through memory of each an every conscious connected we made here... and else where. That memory can be like a resonance pathway.

I am of the idea that the numbers game, is just that "a game to keep you busy". All the while the the geometry of proportions and dimensions hidden within the numbers is the real knowledge.

(maybe it's just me but Finefeather-Ray reminds me of Krishnamurti)
Great words all!
:yo:

WoW! I have studied extensively the works of Krishnamurti and had the exact same thought regarding Finefeather, even a physical similarity. I also see differences that allow me to appreciate the uniqueness of both gentlemen. Cool, no mad guy or is it nomad guy? or both? just inquiring as to what your name may "mean." Cheers Chester

[Belle]

Okay, so what abilities did Enoch have that all people, even kings, would listen to him and peace would reign? Was he special or do we all have that ability?

Check out the findings of the Russian branch of the Human Genome Project under the leadership of Dr. Pjotr Garajajev....http://www.emergentmind.org/gariaev06.htm

There is a reason the books of Enoch and Jasher were removed...

[ulli]

J. Krishnamurti

http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/00519/03sm_jk_jpg_519156g.jpg

[nomadguy]

no mad guy or is it nomad guy? or both? just inquiring as to what your name may "mean." Cheers Chester
It does mean both.
:yo:

[AwakeInADream]

Okay, so what abilities did Enoch have that all people, even kings, would listen to him and peace would reign? Was he special or do we all have that ability?

Check out the findings of the Russian branch of the Human Genome Project under the leadership of Dr. Pjotr Garajajev....http://www.emergentmind.org/gariaev06.htm

There is a reason the books of Enoch and Jasher were removed...

That's great stuff on Genetics, the 4 letter alphabet of DNA reminds me of a quote from The Sefer Yetzirah (Book of Formation) of the Kabbalah:


Two stones build two houses, three stones build six houses, four stones build twenty-four
houses, five stones build one hundred and twenty houses, six stones build seven hundred and
twenty houses, seven stones build five thousand and forty houses. From here go out and think
what the mouth is unable to speak, and the ear is unable to hear.

Two Stones: ba ab
Three Stones: gba bga gab bag abg
Four Stones: dgba gdba dbga bdga gbda bgda
dgab gdab dagb adgb gadb agdb
dbag bdag dabg adbg badg abdg
gbad bgad gabd agbd bagd abgd and so forth...

According to the Kabbalah God created the Universe using the 22 Holy Letters of the Hebrew Alephbet, which were also frequencies/vibrations. Also many important names of God contain 4 letters, such as YHVH, ADNI and EHIH. This suggests to me that the early Kabbalist's knew something of Genetics and other scientific disciplines too.

It is interesting to note that YHVH when viewed in Hebrew with the letters placed one under the other, form the Image of man.

http://puffin.creighton.edu/jesuit/andre/images/yahweh_edited.jpg

[Beren]

It`s always like this; various themes are started in many threads but we always turn the tide collectively these days about spirituality.
Look at all threads on Avalon these last few months and you will see this trend.

This is a sign.

Conscience is moving towards disclosure of us. Not aliens-us.
Our abilities , understanding, compassion, love.


We are here to do us. To do Love. Despite how this isn`t so English-language- friendly-word-coinage it`s a telling example of how we actually do what we came here to do.

Even the forums which sprang from Avalon are in fact unifying force for all.
Brave souls created another platforms where they can color more of their inner beauty sorely needed.

What I am here to do?
To harmonize, to bring beauty in its true form of exalted vision and true rendering.
24/7 - 365 days a year.

I even published a book of poems and the beauty is in this that I didn`t know that I will do it here and now (time frame was vague). Plus it came with the collaboration with another member of old Avalon - Mudra. Aswell as other artists such as Ted Nasmith (who paints for Tolkien-his 2012 painting Tinuviel reborn is actually the only one which he didn`t publish anywhere-it waited for me to come-to be for me and my book-to put up the pieces together with other souls from here and to make it happen) and others.

Now without intention to brag (on the other hand it`s a beautiful brag) I was posting poems on thread "From the forgotten world into eternity " on mistsofavalon for two years aswell as on some threads here and whenever I`d put a poem , Mudra would come along and place the perfect image of animation as a side kick to my poem.
As time went on I told her that if I ever publish a book with poems she would paint for me.

And then it happened.

And I never saw her in person except knowing her ,from where?
Well from Avalon and related forums as Mistsofavalon ( one of them).

The only two friends that I met in person are Rocky Shorz and Greybeard- two soul friends and soon one more soul friend will be in this club :)...

Point is can we see what we are doing here and now?
We are creating a new paradigm.

I am the living proof.

May we all find our inner song and may we all shine our true beauty. May we all toss the dirt away from us and may we all reveal our self in truth, unity and Love.

May we.

I am here, I am Beren and I harmonize.

[Belle]

Taken from an article found here: http://suite101.com/article/dna-and-divine-resonance-a139791

"DNA is more than a genetic blueprint; it is the instrument by which man discovers his spirituality.

The goal of all religious disciplines is the achievement of a spiritual state described as being “at one with God.” The word “at-one-ment” can be seen as such a state, an at-one-ness with a divine or sacred source. In essence, spirituality is Divine Resonance, the ability through various practices to arrive at a coherent state in which the individual becomes whole....."



And another, found here: http://suite101.com/article/dna-changes-a93447

"Russian scientists' discovery of the wave information character of DNA points to a recovery of lost spirituality.

Recent discoveries in the nature of DNA have overthrown the idea that man is genetically fixed. The Human Genome Project has uncovered two interesting facts about human genes: a) man has 30,000 genes( only 300 more than a mouse) in the human DNA; b) only 10% of the human DNA is used for coding and reproduction of proteins; the rest –approximately 90%-- is known as junk DNA which scientists have considered garbled and redundant.

However, the Russian Branch of the Human Genome Project , headed by renowned Dr. Pjotr Garjajev, has uncovered the linguistic and psychic capabilities of junk DNA, ushering in a re-evaluation of the human gene in terms of words, wave genetics and a grammar of spirituality......"



The more you dig, the more there is to be found.

We are powerful...our power lies in so-called "junk" DNA. Our power lies within each and every one of us...made greater by gathering together in peace and harmony to make great changes in the world.

[Belle]

It`s always like this; various themes are started in many threads but we always turn the tide collectively these days about spirituality.
Look at all threads on Avalon these last few months and you will see this trend.

This is a sign.

Conscience is moving towards disclosure of us. Not aliens-us.
Our abilities , understanding, compassion, love.


We are here to do us. To do Love. Despite how this isn`t so English-language- friendly-word-coinage it`s a telling example of how we actually do what we came here to do.



Point is can we see what we are doing here and now?
We are creating a new paradigm.

I am the living proof.

May we all find our inner song and may we all shine our true beauty. May we all toss the dirt away from us and may we all reveal our self in truth, unity and Love.

May we.

I am here, I am Beren and I harmonize.


I have been sitting here trying to find a way to say what you so eloquently said, Beren. Thank you.

May I plagarize for a moment by saying:

I am here, I am Belle and I harmonize...from a place where science and spirituality meet.

[RunningDeer]

Hi Belle,

Thanks for the links. The information reminded me of several of Gregg Braden’s books two of which I’ve posted: “Secrets of the Lost Mode of Prayer” & “The Spontaneous Healing of Belief”

You only need to listen to the first 6 minutes to see it’s worth your time to watch the vid series. I’ve read all his books. It's time for me to re-read at least a couple of them.


Gregg Braden - The Lost Mode of Prayer - 1
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Part 2: “Prayer has nothing to do with religion. And religions were built around specific modes of prayer. But prayer is a highly sophisticated vibratory technology that we embody in the cells of our DNA. And as we have the wisdom to collect and redirect power within ourselves then these miracles come to pass. Maybe they become less than miracles. Maybe they become a way of life in our own...”


Gregg Braden - The Lost Mode of Prayer - 2
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Gregg Braden: “The Spontaneous Healing of Belief”

“What would it mean to discover that everything from the DNA of life, to the future of our world, is based upon a simple Reality Code—one that we can change and upgrade by choice? New revelations in physics and biology suggest that we're about to find out!”


Gregg Braden: “The Spontaneous Healing of Belief”
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Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer


Taken from an article found here: http://suite101.com/article/dna-and-divine-resonance-a139791

"DNA is more than a genetic blueprint; it is the instrument by which man discovers his spirituality.

The goal of all religious disciplines is the achievement of a spiritual state described as being “at one with God.” The word “at-one-ment” can be seen as such a state, an at-one-ness with a divine or sacred source. In essence, spirituality is Divine Resonance, the ability through various practices to arrive at a coherent state in which the individual becomes whole....."

And another, found here: http://suite101.com/article/dna-changes-a93447

"Russian scientists' discovery of the wave information character of DNA points to a recovery of lost spirituality.

Recent discoveries in the nature of DNA have overthrown the idea that man is genetically fixed. The Human Genome Project has uncovered two interesting facts about human genes: a) man has 30,000 genes( only 300 more than a mouse) in the human DNA; b) only 10% of the human DNA is used for coding and reproduction of proteins; the rest –approximately 90%-- is known as junk DNA which scientists have considered garbled and redundant.

However, the Russian Branch of the Human Genome Project , headed by renowned Dr. Pjotr Garjajev, has uncovered the linguistic and psychic capabilities of junk DNA, ushering in a re-evaluation of the human gene in terms of words, wave genetics and a grammar of spirituality......"

The more you dig, the more there is to be found.

We are powerful...our power lies in so-called "junk" DNA. Our power lies within each and every one of us...made greater by gathering together in peace and harmony to make great changes in the world.

[RunningDeer]

"...Conscience is moving towards disclosure of us. Not aliens-us.
Our abilities, understanding, compassion, love..."

"...What I am here to do?
To harmonize, to bring beauty in its true form of exalted vision and true rendering.
24/7 - 365 days a year...."

Thank you Beren, for helping me find my way back to where I began.

I am here, I am Paula and I harmonize.

PS Amazon says that my copy of your book, "From forgotten world into eternity," by: Milorad Maksimovic, will be shipped in 3-5 days!



It`s always like this; various themes are started in many threads but we always turn the tide collectively these days about spirituality.
Look at all threads on Avalon these last few months and you will see this trend.

This is a sign.

Conscience is moving towards disclosure of us. Not aliens-us.
Our abilities , understanding, compassion, love.


We are here to do us. To do Love. Despite how this isn`t so English-language- friendly-word-coinage it`s a telling example of how we actually do what we came here to do.

Even the forums which sprang from Avalon are in fact unifying force for all.
Brave souls created another platforms where they can color more of their inner beauty sorely needed.

What I am here to do?
To harmonize, to bring beauty in its true form of exalted vision and true rendering.
24/7 - 365 days a year.

I even published a book of poems and the beauty is in this that I didn`t know that I will do it here and now (time frame was vague). Plus it came with the collaboration with another member of old Avalon - Mudra. Aswell as other artists such as Ted Nasmith (who paints for Tolkien-his 2012 painting Tinuviel reborn is actually the only one which he didn`t publish anywhere-it waited for me to come-to be for me and my book-to put up the pieces together with other souls from here and to make it happen) and others.

Now without intention to brag (on the other hand it`s a beautiful brag) I was posting poems on thread "From the forgotten world into eternity " on mistsofavalon for two years aswell as on some threads here and whenever I`d put a poem , Mudra would come along and place the perfect image of animation as a side kick to my poem.
As time went on I told her that if I ever publish a book with poems she would paint for me.

And then it happened.

And I never saw her in person except knowing her ,from where?
Well from Avalon and related forums as Mistsofavalon ( one of them).

The only two friends that I met in person are Rocky Shorz and Greybeard- two soul friends and soon one more soul friend will be in this club :)...

Point is can we see what we are doing here and now?
We are creating a new paradigm.

I am the living proof.

May we all find our inner song and may we all shine our true beauty. May we all toss the dirt away from us and may we all reveal our self in truth, unity and Love.

May we.

I am here, I am Beren and I harmonize.

[Belle]

Too late, WCBD...I've already read all of Gregg Braden's books...at least twice!

Quite a while ago I started asking myself the 'why' questions.... why tptb are so focused on dividing and separating people, doing so much research and "playing God" with DNA, etc....what are they after or, more likely, what are they afraid of. Have been finding bits and pieces here and there where science is proving not only spirituality, but the power of spirituality. They have spent thousands of years trying to keep the truth secret from us...should all people seek and find the 'god' within and our true connection with one another, become love, and work together in peace and harmony, there is nothing that we cannot accomplish.

As Beren said.... "It`s always like this; various themes are started in many threads but we always turn the tide collectively these days about spirituality."

My question is "have we gathered here at PA to do more than talk about events and spirituality....have we gathered to put it to use and accomplish the impossible together through our true spiritual connections to one another?"

BTW, Beren's book is wonderful!

[lookbeyond]

Belle, I just had a shiver and aha moment reading your above post-that is a powerful thought. (sorry dont know how to copy your post)

love lookbeyond

[DeDukshyn]

Belle, I just had a shiver and aha moment reading your above post-that is a powerful thought. (sorry dont know how to copy your post)

love lookbeyond

On the bottom right of every post is a "reply with Quote" button. It doesn't look like a button but it is, (maybe more like a link). Anyway, when press that a reply dialogue box will appear with the message already formatted for the quote and you can just add you message underneath or above. Hope that helps ;)

[lookbeyond]

Belle, I just had a shiver and aha moment reading your above post-that is a powerful thought. (sorry dont know how to copy your post)

love lookbeyond

On the bottom right of every post is a "reply with Quote" button. It doesn't look like a button but it is, (maybe more like a link). Anyway, when press that a reply dialogue box will appear with the message already formatted for the quote and you can just add you message underneath or above. Hope that helps ;)
Thankyou! DeDukshyn

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[DeDukshyn]

Belle, I just had a shiver and aha moment reading your above post-that is a powerful thought. (sorry dont know how to copy your post)

love lookbeyond

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Thankyou! DeDukshyn

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Wow! now i feel like a properposter! :cool:

I got one more ... ;) ;)

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[lookbeyond]

Belle, I just had a shiver and aha moment reading your above post-that is a powerful thought. (sorry dont know how to copy your post)

love lookbeyond

On the bottom right of every post is a "reply with Quote" button. It doesn't look like a button but it is, (maybe more like a link). Anyway, when press that a reply dialogue box will appear with the message already formatted for the quote and you can just add you message underneath or above. Hope that helps ;)
Thankyou! DeDukshyn

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Wow! now i feel like a properposter! :cool:

I got one more ... ;) ;)

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Aaawww, its getting a bit technical DeDukshyn -but thankyou friend

Kind Reguards lookbeyond

[RunningDeer]

"My question is "have we gathered here at PA to do more than talk about events and spirituality....have we gathered to put it to use and accomplish the impossible together through our true spiritual connections to one another?"

Hi Belle,

Your question is a good one, and a complex one. I've broken it down into parts.

- “Have we gathered here at PA to do more than talk about events and spirituality?” I'm monitoring my time spent on threads. It gets eaten up with more and more intellectualizing, data, analysis, theories, etc. I’ve run out of things to share in part because I’m light in most areas by comparison to PA members. In 3D world, it’s the opposite.

- “Have we gathered to put it to use?” I suspect however many people here we’d have as many reasons for joining PA. Well, that may be an exaggeration. Hard to say. For me, it depends on the day, hour, minute. Initially I joined because I was new to most topics. Now, I’m here to experiment with voice and expression, and share.

- “Have we gathered to accomplish the impossible together through our true spiritual connections to one another?" We can accomplish a lot even without spiritual connections. If we are honest and true to ourselves, i.e., unique spiritual beings, all evolves naturally.

My short answer is true spiritual connection begins with things like honesty and trust. Some ways to get there are through trust building, tolerance, acceptance of differences. If we've got those then anything is possible.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

PS Why am I not surprised that you’ve read Gregg Braden's books...at least twice? Or Beren’s book?



Too late, WCBD...I've already read all of Gregg Braden's books...at least twice!

Quite a while ago I started asking myself the 'why' questions.... why tptb are so focused on dividing and separating people, doing so much research and "playing God" with DNA, etc....what are they after or, more likely, what are they afraid of. Have been finding bits and pieces here and there where science is proving not only spirituality, but the power of spirituality. They have spent thousands of years trying to keep the truth secret from us...should all people seek and find the 'god' within and our true connection with one another, become love, and work together in peace and harmony, there is nothing that we cannot accomplish.

As Beren said.... "It`s always like this; various themes are started in many threads but we always turn the tide collectively these days about spirituality."

My question is "have we gathered here at PA to do more than talk about events and spirituality....have we gathered to put it to use and accomplish the impossible together through our true spiritual connections to one another?"

BTW, Beren's book is wonderful!

[Rocky_Shorz]

OnyxKnight was sharing with us about DNA in his thread, and one thing he talked about was a part of our DNA that was turned off...

I think he called it a God gene, and for some it is now on...

has gathering and communicating through our Spirits turned it on again for the Avalon collective?

will it just suddenly turn on for everyone on December 22nd?

7 Billion Gods on one little planet?

maybe it gives all of us complete forgiveness for others, instantly... no more anger, or hurt...

thanks Belle, I've been going through the Enoch...

I've shared with all of you before, that in my dreams when I'm traveling the Cosmos, it starts with tiny lights slowly surrounding me, until it becomes almost a tornado or whirlwind and then lifting me upwards... amazing reading of a similar experience from others thousands of years ago, of course, mine was just a dream... ;)

Beam me up Scotty!!!

[Belle]

"My question is "have we gathered here at PA to do more than talk about events and spirituality....have we gathered to put it to use and accomplish the impossible together through our true spiritual connections to one another?"

Hi Belle,

Your question is a good one, and a complex one. I've broken it down into parts.

- “Have we gathered here at PA to do more than talk about events and spirituality?” I'm monitoring my time spent on threads. It gets eaten up with more and more intellectualizing, data, analysis, theories, etc. I’ve run out of things to share in part because I’m light in most areas by comparison to PA members. In 3D world, it’s the opposite.

- “Have we gathered to put it to use?” I suspect however many people here we’d have as many reasons for joining PA. Well, that may be an exaggeration. Hard to say. For me, it depends on the day, hour, minute. Initially I joined because I was new to most topics. Now, I’m here to experiment with voice and expression, and share.

- “Have we gathered to accomplish the impossible together through our true spiritual connections to one another?" We can accomplish a lot even without spiritual connections. If we are honest and true to ourselves, i.e., unique spiritual beings, all evolves naturally.

My short answer is true spiritual connection begins with things like honesty and trust. Some ways to get there are through trust building, tolerance, acceptance of differences. If we've got those then anything is possible.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

PS Why am I not surprised that you’ve read Gregg Braden's books...at least twice? Or Beren’s book?

I agree with all you said in your post, WCBD. I could explain the logic to my finally joining this forum...yet the bottom line for me is that I felt drawn here, drawn to actively participate, drawn to share knowledge and spirituality with this community. I've grown in both, thanks to so many who have shared openly and honestly, who made me think and expand...first personally and now in community.

When I first joined, there were those who shared discussions about events...and those who shared spirituality. Today, I sense a blending...events and spirituality not being mutually exclusive, but rather brought together in our combined consciousness...a step forward, if you will. My question is 'now what do we do with it.'

Reading Gregg's books was easy...applying them to my own life, well, still working on that.

[Anchor]

My question is "have we gathered here at PA to do more than talk about events and spirituality....have we gathered to put it to use and accomplish the impossible together through our true spiritual connections to one another?"

I'd say yes.

Additionally you can learn things here that you will probably end up "practicing" because in real life, people who have not really been seeking out this kind of information will want some help and explanation from people who have already done some traveling down various rabbit-holes; alternatively you may also find yourself simply planting a few seeds in the minds of those awakening other-selves - seeds that once were also planted in your own mind that grew and flowered.

[RunningDeer]

My question is 'now what do we do with it.'

Personal Perception

The tortoise and the hare: it's critical to develop inner timing for it all to unfold in it's proper sequence with the greater picture. That's an honorable challenge. Patience with self and allowance for everyone to be where they are in the experiential process. We each are responsible to keep digging for the blind spots that hold us captive from our Light. And our shared caring for a better world through expression of ideas is a physical representation of Love and Co-creation in action.

A Wish

My wish is for everyone to see the hidden likeness rather than the differences in us All. Sometimes the human element is lost when the one eclipses another’s idea with clever factoids and parallel talk.

An Observation and Opinion

Project Avalon is a mini-model of the World. We loose ground when there’s disintegration rather than integration. We all benefit when each is cognizant of mutual respect for differences, and stays open to the larger message of the posts. It begins there. If it’s not a safe place to share, we lose the sensitive ones with a creative twist to the puzzle. I keep coming back to the point that lets get beyond the ego stuff. We all problem solve differently, that’s what makes it richer environment and increase the possibilities.

An Idea

One suggestion is brain storm on a real world situation. This exchange at Project Avalon is a spring board to the greater community on the web and beyond the computer. Guests may bring these ideas out to other forums, or families or small communities. There’s no right or wrong way or even if it bombs, the action steps alone raise consciousness and create unifying energies. So only success comes from any action, no matter how small.

An Outcome

In the beginning, it serves as a working example of how to process and share. Other side benefits increase like growth of non-judgement, creativity, and how ideas trigger solutions. This focus naturally flows from the individual to the Unity of the Whole. So in essence we demonstrate how to be teachers and students exchanging ideas on all levels. All while individual essence deepens and uniqueness is preserved as well.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

[Logan]

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Dear All:

I'm as certain as I can be that in the next 6-9 months quite a lot is going to happen that may require us to get our life jackets on (routine and sensible when ocean sailing), work together well, and safeguard our energy, resources and well-being until the storm is over.

Like sailing at sea, storms are not to be feared -- just to be handled. If one wanted to avoid storms, one should not be at sea at all. Here we are all on this planet this lifetime, and it wasn't a mistake. You chose to be here. You have a mission to accomplish.

If you have a good boat and a good crew, then it's simply an adventure ... and, as a spin-off, a test and learning experience for everyone.

It can be a great deal of fun. Nothing trivial is intended by that statement. As spiritual beings, we're all fun-loving dolphins swimming in the universal sea... and sometimes we find ourselves trapped in nets which we have to get out of. That's part of the adventure, too.

The only real problem is remembering your mission. Not easy with Jason-Bourne-amnesia. Look for clues all around you: people you know, people you meet, the things that "happen to you", the coincidences and synchronicities, and what energizes you and keeps capturing your attention.

Then make a guess at what you might be here to do, and start right now -- if you're not already well on your way.

You didn't come here just to watch the show. You're also in the movie, and can change its course. That's why you're here.

Ask yourself these two questions today:


Am I doing what I came here to do?
Am I doing enough?

(Of interest: my own answers to the above are (a) Yes, and (b) No, there's always more.)


My warmest wishes to everyone -- Bill


People really buy this ****? You speak in generalities about nothing, but the disturbed people here act like this is some profound ****. What a joke.

[RunningDeer]

Serendipity! Logan, thank you for reinforcing post #220 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50125-What-we-may-be-here-to-do&p=568356&viewfull=1#post568356). What a synchronistic rush!!! Please read with an open mind.

I'd be interested in hearing your specifics or general solutions or what you are here to do.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer


People really buy this ****? You speak in generalities about nothing, but the disturbed people here act like this is some profound ****. What a joke.



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Dear All:

I'm as certain as I can be that in the next 6-9 months quite a lot is going to happen that may require us to get our life jackets on (routine and sensible when ocean sailing), work together well, and safeguard our energy, resources and well-being until the storm is over..."

"...Then make a guess at what you might be here to do, and start right now -- if you're not already well on your way.

You didn't come here just to watch the show. You're also in the movie, and can change its course. That's why you're here.

Ask yourself these two questions today:


Am I doing what I came here to do?
Am I doing enough?

(Of interest: my own answers to the above are (a) Yes, and (b) No, there's always more.)


My warmest wishes to everyone -- Bill


People really buy this ****? You speak in generalities about nothing, but the disturbed people here act like this is some profound ****. What a joke.

[Rocky_Shorz]

People really buy this ****? You speak in generalities about nothing, but the disturbed people here act like this is some profound ****. What a joke.

careful about walking in and insulting our members in a discussion thread...

find a thread you are interested in...

[Chester]

Taken from an article found here: http://suite101.com/article/dna-and-divine-resonance-a139791

"DNA is more than a genetic blueprint; it is the instrument by which man discovers his spirituality.

The goal of all religious disciplines is the achievement of a spiritual state described as being “at one with God.” The word “at-one-ment” can be seen as such a state, an at-one-ness with a divine or sacred source. In essence, spirituality is Divine Resonance, the ability through various practices to arrive at a coherent state in which the individual becomes whole....."



And another, found here: http://suite101.com/article/dna-changes-a93447

"Russian scientists' discovery of the wave information character of DNA points to a recovery of lost spirituality.

Recent discoveries in the nature of DNA have overthrown the idea that man is genetically fixed. The Human Genome Project has uncovered two interesting facts about human genes: a) man has 30,000 genes( only 300 more than a mouse) in the human DNA; b) only 10% of the human DNA is used for coding and reproduction of proteins; the rest –approximately 90%-- is known as junk DNA which scientists have considered garbled and redundant.

However, the Russian Branch of the Human Genome Project , headed by renowned Dr. Pjotr Garjajev, has uncovered the linguistic and psychic capabilities of junk DNA, ushering in a re-evaluation of the human gene in terms of words, wave genetics and a grammar of spirituality......"



The more you dig, the more there is to be found.

We are powerful...our power lies in so-called "junk" DNA. Our power lies within each and every one of us...made greater by gathering together in peace and harmony to make great changes in the world.

David Icke once pointed out that roughly 95% of the brain is not understood as to its function, that roughly 95% of DNA is not understood as to its function and 4.6% of the universe is atoms (thus 95% ish is not) - An interesting correlation, hey?

[Belle]

People really buy this ****? You speak in generalities about nothing, but the disturbed people here act like this is some profound ****. What a joke.

What you perceive as 'generalities', I see as 'metaphor'....we all respond from our own perspectives to the original OP.

No need to be rude...

It's all good, Logan.:)

[Finefeather]

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Dear All:

I'm as certain as I can be that in the next 6-9 months quite a lot is going to happen that may require us to get our life jackets on (routine and sensible when ocean sailing), work together well, and safeguard our energy, resources and well-being until the storm is over.

Like sailing at sea, storms are not to be feared -- just to be handled. If one wanted to avoid storms, one should not be at sea at all. Here we are all on this planet this lifetime, and it wasn't a mistake. You chose to be here. You have a mission to accomplish.

If you have a good boat and a good crew, then it's simply an adventure ... and, as a spin-off, a test and learning experience for everyone.

It can be a great deal of fun. Nothing trivial is intended by that statement. As spiritual beings, we're all fun-loving dolphins swimming in the universal sea... and sometimes we find ourselves trapped in nets which we have to get out of. That's part of the adventure, too.

The only real problem is remembering your mission. Not easy with Jason-Bourne-amnesia. Look for clues all around you: people you know, people you meet, the things that "happen to you", the coincidences and synchronicities, and what energizes you and keeps capturing your attention.

Then make a guess at what you might be here to do, and start right now -- if you're not already well on your way.

You didn't come here just to watch the show. You're also in the movie, and can change its course. That's why you're here.

Ask yourself these two questions today:


Am I doing what I came here to do?
Am I doing enough?

(Of interest: my own answers to the above are (a) Yes, and (b) No, there's always more.)


My warmest wishes to everyone -- Bill


People really buy this ****? You speak in generalities about nothing, but the disturbed people here act like this is some profound ****. What a joke.

If you notice I have thanked Logan for this post for a reason...because it should teach us a lesson...it should show us that not all are in the same place and that the place each of us is at is just one of many we can find ourselves at. We should welcome him into the conversation and share what has made us contribute so eagerly to this thread. Logan is as much a brother of ours as our closest friend, but seeing him as a threat is just a way of pointing to our own weakness. Logan's post jumped out at me and reminded me of when we were kids and played games and we held little secrets among the buddies and when an outsider came along we would often be quite nasty to him/her completely unwise to the lesson we may learn by inviting him/her in, or the negative attitude we were displaying by rejecting him/her.

You cannot see the good around you when you keep on looking for the bad.

Each has a part to play and the real truth of the matter is that we cannot grow without some conflict in our lives. We should welcome the differences of opinion we see in others as apposed to our own way of thinking...it gives us a chance to assess our direction and our attitude.


Many people think that they will become good just by doing no harm -- but that's a lie.... That way lies stagnation, mediocrity.VINCENT VAN GOGH, letter to Theo van Gogh, Oct. 1884

In this quote we should look at "harm" as been a catalyst for the benefit of good.

Love to All
Ray

[Finefeather]

Taken from an article found here: http://suite101.com/article/dna-and-divine-resonance-a139791

"DNA is more than a genetic blueprint; it is the instrument by which man discovers his spirituality.

The goal of all religious disciplines is the achievement of a spiritual state described as being “at one with God.” The word “at-one-ment” can be seen as such a state, an at-one-ness with a divine or sacred source. In essence, spirituality is Divine Resonance, the ability through various practices to arrive at a coherent state in which the individual becomes whole....."



And another, found here: http://suite101.com/article/dna-changes-a93447

"Russian scientists' discovery of the wave information character of DNA points to a recovery of lost spirituality.

Recent discoveries in the nature of DNA have overthrown the idea that man is genetically fixed. The Human Genome Project has uncovered two interesting facts about human genes: a) man has 30,000 genes( only 300 more than a mouse) in the human DNA; b) only 10% of the human DNA is used for coding and reproduction of proteins; the rest –approximately 90%-- is known as junk DNA which scientists have considered garbled and redundant.

However, the Russian Branch of the Human Genome Project , headed by renowned Dr. Pjotr Garjajev, has uncovered the linguistic and psychic capabilities of junk DNA, ushering in a re-evaluation of the human gene in terms of words, wave genetics and a grammar of spirituality......"



The more you dig, the more there is to be found.

We are powerful...our power lies in so-called "junk" DNA. Our power lies within each and every one of us...made greater by gathering together in peace and harmony to make great changes in the world.
Belle thank you for your post...I have not read your links but the piece you quote makes a lot of sense, I try not to read too much.
One thing I disagree with is that it talks about..."recovery of lost spirituality"...we have not lost anything, especially not spirituality. The current cycle of incarnating Beings are just younger and that is why they are here now...not to find their lost spirituality...but to gain more consciousness which would put them back into touch with their spirituality, which is and always will be there for ever. This may sound like a play on words but there is a big difference.

We spend far too much time debating the pros and cons of DNA in our life...it is a scientific fact that DNA can be altered by though in the same way as it can be altered by sound and other vibration...remember everything is just vibration.
Our DNA can be seen as good in the fact that we see such perfect examples of physical bodies on the earth, and in the same way, we also see distortion, in the form of birth defects which we find not only in the human species but also in the animal and plant kingdoms. So we could look at the physical side as 'normal' with small chances of some anomalies. We should also not forget that the brain as an organ is merely another physical organ and can also be subject to some defects, either from birth or from other self inflicted or external sources. With an abnormal brain we can have abnormal physical occurrences as well as possible consciousness issues. None of these brain defects, caused by any means, affects the real you, it only affects the current incarnation. It is like having a motorcar with a bad engine instead of one with a good engine. Your life will be restricted in accordance with the physical body condition in general.
I know of many people who have physical problems but are still extremely plugged into the 'spiritual' life and the reason is that they have pushed aside this distraction and have risen above the physical defects of their body, they are doing a better job in a beat out old jalopy than most do in their million dollar limo.

Now, the big question on peoples minds is - "who is preventing us from using the other 90% of our genes"...and the answer is... 'YOU'.
Everything you ingest, and everything you listen to and everything you do in the form of your attitudes and your emotions and your mental thoughts are all playing a role in the 'unlocking' of your abilities to make use of the mystery part of the DNA. This part of the DNA is there waiting for each one to use it when they get the message.
The reason why it is not 'activated' in general is because the collective mind of the human 'soul' is still young and inexperienced...but that does not mean it cannot be activated individually.
The fact that science cannot understand this 'junk' DNA does not mean it cannot be activated or is not activated in some. The activation of this 'junk' DNA can be seen in the differences between a more advanced 'spiritual' person and a lessor 'spiritual' person. This should not make those more advanced than others think they are the chosen few, it only means that they are a little further down the road than most, and the position along this road is a result of all kinds of things...like...choice of purpose of an incarnation, age and experience of the 'soul'...In general, the more physical incarnations a Spiritual Being has been through the more experienced they would be in commanding the physical body, with some exceptions.

The most important thing to keep in mind is that DNA is a multidimensional occurrence and apart from giving you your physical characteristics, it will be 'setup' and 'adjusted' specifically for each individual through the etheric body once the connection is made between the physical permanent atom of the body and the Spiritual Being who is about to incarnate into it. It is a complicated process which involves amongst other things your choices to do with your current life mission and here is the key to the amnesia people talk of...YOU have chosen your level of awareness based on your life's mission...there is no mystery or dark intention here.

So if you want to activate your 'junk' DNA you need to live a life of peace, harmony and unconditional love, you need to make yourself useful by showing the way to those you come in contact with, by your own attitude and way of life. You must walk the walk. You are what you think.

Love to All
Ray

[Anchor]

People really buy this ****? You speak in generalities about nothing, but the disturbed people here act like this is some profound ****. What a joke.

Frustrating.

Frustration - Not knowing, wondering if perhaps others know something but are not communicating it properly in a way you can relate too?

Frustration - Worried that others may simply be wasting the time of yet others, or worse deliberately misinforming them?

Frustration - that one is so clever they can see through all these tricks, but yet others remain gullible and fall for them?

Frustration - that one is sane, yet others are acting as if they are mad/disturbed ?

Its understandable.

Its fixable.

Ask questions... answer questions... teach or learn? Learn or teach? Which will it be today?

Don't get upset.

Keep going.

[RunningDeer]

Taken from an article found here: http://suite101.com/article/dna-and-divine-resonance-a139791

"DNA is more than a genetic blueprint; it is the instrument by which man discovers his spirituality.

The goal of all religious disciplines is the achievement of a spiritual state described as being “at one with God.” The word “at-one-ment” can be seen as such a state, an at-one-ness with a divine or sacred source. In essence, spirituality is Divine Resonance, the ability through various practices to arrive at a coherent state in which the individual becomes whole....."



And another, found here: http://suite101.com/article/dna-changes-a93447

"Russian scientists' discovery of the wave information character of DNA points to a recovery of lost spirituality.

Recent discoveries in the nature of DNA have overthrown the idea that man is genetically fixed. The Human Genome Project has uncovered two interesting facts about human genes: a) man has 30,000 genes( only 300 more than a mouse) in the human DNA; b) only 10% of the human DNA is used for coding and reproduction of proteins; the rest –approximately 90%-- is known as junk DNA which scientists have considered garbled and redundant.

However, the Russian Branch of the Human Genome Project , headed by renowned Dr. Pjotr Garjajev, has uncovered the linguistic and psychic capabilities of junk DNA, ushering in a re-evaluation of the human gene in terms of words, wave genetics and a grammar of spirituality......"



The more you dig, the more there is to be found.

We are powerful...our power lies in so-called "junk" DNA. Our power lies within each and every one of us...made greater by gathering together in peace and harmony to make great changes in the world.
Belle thank you for your post...I have not read your links but the piece you quote makes a lot of sense, I try not to read too much.
One thing I disagree with is that it talks about..."recovery of lost spirituality"...we have not lost anything, especially not spirituality. The current cycle of incarnating Beings are just younger and that is why they are here now...not to find their lost spirituality...but to gain more consciousness which would put them back into touch with their spirituality, which is and always will be there for ever. This may sound like a play on words but there is a big difference.

We spend far too much time debating the pros and cons of DNA in our life...it is a scientific fact that DNA can be altered by though in the same way as it can be altered by sound and other vibration...remember everything is just vibration.
Our DNA can be seen as good in the fact that we see such perfect examples of physical bodies on the earth, and in the same way, we also see distortion, in the form of birth defects which we find not only in the human species but also in the animal and plant kingdoms. So we could look at the physical side as 'normal' with small chances of some anomalies. We should also not forget that the brain as an organ is merely another physical organ and can also be subject to some defects, either from birth or from other self inflicted or external sources. With an abnormal brain we can have abnormal physical occurrences as well as possible consciousness issues. None of these brain defects, caused by any means, affects the real you, it only affects the current incarnation. It is like having a motorcar with a bad engine instead of one with a good engine. Your life will be restricted in accordance with the physical body condition in general.
I know of many people who have physical problems but are still extremely plugged into the 'spiritual' life and the reason is that they have pushed aside this distraction and have risen above the physical defects of their body, they are doing a better job in a beat out old jalopy than most do in their million dollar limo.

Now, the big question on peoples minds is - "who is preventing us from using the other 90% of our genes"...and the answer is... 'YOU'.
Everything you ingest, and everything you listen to and everything you do in the form of your attitudes and your emotions and your mental thoughts are all playing a role in the 'unlocking' of your abilities to make use of the mystery part of the DNA. This part of the DNA is there waiting for each one to use it when they get the message.
The reason why it is not 'activated' in general is because the collective mind of the human 'soul' is still young and inexperienced...but that does not mean it cannot be activated individually.
The fact that science cannot understand this 'junk' DNA does not mean it cannot be activated or is not activated in some. The activation of this 'junk' DNA can be seen in the differences between a more advanced 'spiritual' person and a lessor 'spiritual' person. This should not make those more advanced than others think they are the chosen few, it only means that they are a little further down the road than most, and the position along this road is a result of all kinds of things...like...choice of purpose of an incarnation, age and experience of the 'soul'...In general, the more physical incarnations a Spiritual Being has been through the more experienced they would be in commanding the physical body, with some exceptions.

The most important thing to keep in mind is that DNA is a multidimensional occurrence and apart from giving you your physical characteristics, it will be 'setup' and 'adjusted' specifically for each individual through the etheric body once the connection is made between the physical permanent atom of the body and the Spiritual Being who is about to incarnate into it. It is a complicated process which involves amongst other things your choices to do with your current life mission and here is the key to the amnesia people talk of...YOU have chosen your level of awareness based on your life's mission...there is no mystery or dark intention here.

So if you want to activate your 'junk' DNA you need to live a life of peace, harmony and unconditional love, you need to make yourself useful by showing the way to those you come in contact with, by your own attitude and way of life. You must walk the walk. You are what you think.

Love to All
Ray

That's powerful, Ray. Thank you. The responsibility begins and ends with me. That's all and only good news. I know this most of the time. When I give my power away by believing some of the stuff that is out there, I trip myself up.

With love,
Paula

[Rocky_Shorz]

People really buy this ****? You speak in generalities about nothing, but the disturbed people here act like this is some profound ****. What a joke.

careful about walking in and insulting our members in a discussion thread...

find a thread you are interested in...

all of you know I wasn't trying to be rude, I just saw the train firing up and hopped in before the flames started...

we are all friends and talking of subjects in Avalon where we can speak of anything without ridicule.

new members drawn here for ETs and Conspiracies might have zero interest in Spirituality.

the fact he looked is a start, the fact he doesn't understand is known...

questions are good if asked in kind terms.

I don't like seeing our youngsters flamed out before they get started...

why are we here?

to teach the Logans there is much more to this existence than what can be seen in black and white...

I have many unknowns that are very important...

will my conscious cease to exist when our Spirits step forward in our being?

I like me though I'm not perfect...

[ulli]

Rocky doing the train thing....phew....

http://i.imgur.com/dWK0q.gif

[RunningDeer]

"..all of you know I wasn't trying to be rude,.."

Not even for a nano-second did I think you were rude. There are other ways for Logan to express a point.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Rocky doing the train thing....phew....

http://i.imgur.com/dWK0q.gif

LOL!!!

every life matters...

[Belle]

.....new members drawn here for ETs and Conspiracies might have zero interest in Spirituality.

the fact he looked is a start, the fact he doesn't understand is known...

questions are good if asked in kind terms.

I don't like seeing our youngsters flamed out before they get started...

why are we here?

to teach the Logans there is much more to this existence than what can be seen in black and white...

I have many unknowns that are very important...

will my conscious cease to exist when our Spirits step forward in our being?

I like me though I'm not perfect...


What I was trying to draw forth is a link between conspiracies, science and spirituality....

Yes, we all have 'spirituality genes' in our junk DNA available should we choose to activate it....tptb are spending a lot of time and money, almost manically, deciphering our DNA and experimenting with it, for what purpose, do you suppose?

AriG in particular, and others, are concerned tptb are working on a way to turn portions of our DNA on and off to their benefit...to the point of AriG trying to set us on the path of some of the information she and the group she is with have proving tptb are trying to 'steal' or 'eliminate' our souls.

Knowing they have spent thousands of years hiding true spirituality, I am led to believe there is something very important to us that they fear....could true spirituality be our greatest weapon against them...something hidden in our junk DNA? Could their focus on DNA be to find a way to turn off that portion of our junk DNA? Could there be a race for us to fully activate our junk DNA before tptb figure out how to turn it off?

What better place to discuss such things than PA...where science and spirituality meet.

[Rocky_Shorz]

well just so eveyrone understands, your Spirit can not be turned off, once in communication with your conscious...

you don't need to eat fruits and nuts to have gifts, meat is an important part of our diet.

there are farmers producing food in areas it is not possible with normal seeds...

what I am told is they don't want us all living for 200 years on social Security, so it might affect length of life...

but then again starvation does it quicker...

[another bob]

...could true spirituality be our greatest weapon against them...

"True spirituality" is not a weapon. True spirituality emerges when the dependence on weapons to resolve conflict has become obsolete, along with the conditioned concept or belief in "Us vs Them".

[Beren]

...could true spirituality be our greatest weapon against them...

"True spirituality" is not a weapon. True spirituality emerges when the dependence on weapons to resolve conflict has become obsolete, along with the conditioned concept or belief in "Us vs Them".

True, very true.
Though in the mind of the negative polarized entity it`s THE weapon against it...

:)

hah , I never guessed that a single flower holds more energy within than all negative existence combined...

Almost everybody doesn`t believe this but again how many knew or reached this true power?

All of a sudden this gets new meaning: "Many are called but few are chosen."
Or "broad is the road to destruction and narrow is the one for salvation..."

Makes you think about the essence of the message.
How many will trust this flower?
How many will see its truth?
:)

[another bob]

...could true spirituality be our greatest weapon against them...

"True spirituality" is not a weapon. True spirituality emerges when the dependence on weapons to resolve conflict has become obsolete, along with the conditioned concept or belief in "Us vs Them".

True, very true.
Though in the mind of the negative polarized entity it`s THE weapon against it...

"True spirituality" includes the recognition that the only one we are wounding with our weapons is ourself.


I have come into this world to see this:
the sword drop from men's hands even at the height
of their arc of anger
because we have finally realized there is just one flesh to wound…

I have come into this world to see this: all creatures hold hands as
we pass through this miraculous existence we share on the way
to even a greater being of soul,
a being of just ecstatic light, forever entwined and at play
with Him.

I have come into this world to hear this:
every song the earth has sung since it was conceived in
the Divine's womb and began spinning from
His wish,
every song by wing and fin and hoof,
every song by hill and field and tree and woman and child,
every song of stream and rock,
every song of tool and lyre and flute,
every song of gold and emerald
and fire,
every song the heart should cry with magnificent dignity
to know itself as
God:

for all other knowledge will leave us again in want and aching –
only imbibing the glorious Sun
will complete us.

I have come into this world to experience this:
men so true to love
they would rather die before speaking
an unkind word,
men so true their lives are His covenant –
the promise of hope.

I have come into this world to see this:
the sword drop from men's hands
even at the height of
their arc of rage
because we have finally realized
there is just one flesh
we can wound.


~Hafiz

[Belle]

I clearly understand what you are saying abob, and agree...to a point.

Have you ever had someone very upset with you...so upset their anger boils over and they want to start a fight...speaking normally at first and getting progressively louder. My initial reaction is to find my center, my calm and quiet place, and try to discuss the situation with them. It seems to inflame them and they get louder still....the more angry they get, the calmer I get. I cannot help it...when anger is present, I choose peace... I choose not to fight, but rather listen closely to their grievance and seek reconciliation of our differences.

Is my lack of anger, my inner peace, a weapon? Their reaction would say yes. In my heart, I say no. What say you?

[webyourstuff]

When the Tao is lost, there is goodness.
When goodness is lost, there is morality.
When morality is lost, there is ritual.
Ritual is the husk of true faith,
the beginning of chaos.



Thanks, Christian. Now I understand what "ritual" is.

[another bob]

I clearly understand what you are saying abob, and agree when the word 'weapon' is used in the sense of 'to deliberately wound'.

Have you ever had someone very upset with you...so upset their anger boils over and they want to start a fight...

Actually, yes, not long ago on this very forum... ;)



Is my lack of anger, my inner peace, a weapon? Their reaction would say yes. In my heart, I say no. What say you?

Conflicted emotional reactivity is not a symptom of true spirituality. Inner peace is. Words often complicate and confuse, as much as they clarify. I would not call inner peace a weapon, I would call it our natural state. If one wishes to designate it as a weapon, that would indicate the sense of or belief in a threat that requires defense. However, all we are ever really trying to protect and defend is some fabricated image we have of ourselves. In true spirituality, there is no "other".

Blessings!

[Rocky_Shorz]

I clearly understand what you are saying abob, and agree...to a point.

Have you ever had someone very upset with you...so upset their anger boils over and they want to start a fight...speaking normally at first and getting progressively louder. My initial reaction is to find my center, my calm and quiet place, and try to discuss the situation with them. It seems to inflame them and they get louder still....the more angry they get, the calmer I get. I cannot help it...when anger is present, I choose peace... I choose not to fight, but rather listen closely to their grievance and seek reconciliation of our differences.

Is my lack of anger, my inner peace, a weapon? Their reaction would say yes. In my heart, I say no. What say you?

it isn't that you found your inner peace while they are angry, it's your big ol Joe Biden Grin that makes them explode...

I do exactly the same thing, in Huge sales meetings I'd walk in and the board was tearing themselves up, I would start talking in a whisper, as everyone quieted down to hear me, there would be one getting ready to explode, I had calmed everyone and was painting my picture taking away their power...

the madder they got, the calmer I became...

and everyone in my bubble was shielded from their anger...

they lost every time I'd walk out with the deal...

a psychic salesperson, some say it's cheating, I say... <Wink>

[Chester]

My question is 'now what do we do with it.'

Personal Perception

The tortoise and the hare: it's critical to develop inner timing for it all to unfold in it's proper sequence with the greater picture. That's an honorable challenge. Patience with self and allowance for everyone to be where they are in the experiential process. We each are responsible to keep digging for the blind spots that hold us captive from our Light. And our shared caring for a better world through expression of ideas is a physical representation of Love and Co-creation in action.

A Wish

My wish is for everyone to see the hidden likeness rather than the differences in us All. Sometimes the human element is lost when the one eclipses another’s idea with clever factoids and parallel talk.

An Observation and Opinion

Project Avalon is a mini-model of the World. We loose ground when there’s disintegration rather than integration. We all benefit when each is cognizant of mutual respect for differences, and stays open to the larger message of the posts. It begins there. If it’s not a safe place to share, we lose the sensitive ones with a creative twist to the puzzle. I keep coming back to the point that lets get beyond the ego stuff. We all problem solve differently, that’s what makes it richer environment and increase the possibilities.

An Idea

One suggestion is brain storm on a real world situation. This exchange at Project Avalon is a spring board to the greater community on the web and beyond the computer. Guests may bring these ideas out to other forums, or families or small communities. There’s no right or wrong way or even if it bombs, the action steps alone raise consciousness and create unifying energies. So only success comes from any action, no matter how small.

An Outcome

In the beginning, it serves as a working example of how to process and share. Other side benefits increase like growth of non-judgement, creativity, and how ideas trigger solutions. This focus naturally flows from the individual to the Unity of the Whole. So in essence we demonstrate how to be teachers and students exchanging ideas on all levels. All while individual essence deepens and uniqueness is preserved as well.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

This was one fantastic post.

I came to Avalon because I thought I could be helpful to others such that I might find a true, reason to live. Unfortunately (though I did not know this at the time) I was perhaps the sickest one here. So in truth, I came to Avalon to save my own ass. BUT, somehow the love here, pulled my head out of a "special" orifice just enough to see some actual light of day.

Now I come to Avalon to be in "right, positive relationship" with others.

The guidelines you outlined above are perfect for a clown like me. I think I will print this and paste it on my wall.

Again, thank you WhiteCrowBlackDeer, Love to you, Chester

[Chester]

18700

Not meaning to veer the thread, but need to clear up a possible misstep.

The reason I felt a connection between these two men, one who I sensed I knew through reading the dozen or so books he authored and one who has become a true friend who has assisted me beyond my belief was even possible, was and is because of the incredible feeling of love I experience when I focus on one or the other. After that, there is massive uniqueness.

I love you, Ray and Jiddu knows my love for him.

Enjoy the Day and Love to All - Chester

[Chester]

So if you want to activate your 'junk' DNA you need to live a life of peace, harmony and unconditional love, you need to make yourself useful by showing the way to those you come in contact with, by your own attitude and way of life. You must walk the walk. You are what you think.
Love to All
Ray

Just yesterday, the light bulb went off to this quantum being that I finally received the answer to one of my most compelling questions... and that has been, "What is the foundation of my intentions." And the answer I (finally!) got was - "Attitude."

I then strangely began to consider, is my attitude a choice? I am now in experimental stage in this regard. I will report my conclusions once I am comfortable I have enough data gathered.

Something smells to me like I might be on the right track.

Thanks, Ray... Love to All, Chester

[ulli]

So if you want to activate your 'junk' DNA you need to live a life of peace, harmony and unconditional love, you need to make yourself useful by showing the way to those you come in contact with, by your own attitude and way of life. You must walk the walk. You are what you think.
Love to All
Ray

Just yesterday, the light bulb went off to this quantum being that I finally received the answer to one of my most compelling questions... and that has been, "What is the foundation of my intentions." And the answer I (finally!) got was - "Attitude."

I then strangely began to consider, is my attitude a choice? I am now in experimental stage in this regard. I will report my conclusions once I am comfortable I have enough data gathered.

Something smells to me like I might be on the right track.

Thanks, Ray... Love to All, Chester

I do see you are on the right track here, Chester. To me, attitude is everything.
Getting the handle on attitude is tough, however. It feels like one is pretending....
sort of like an actor, who has to go deep into their emotional memory bank to express
feelings which aren't really there at that moment.
So what causes given attitudes and feelings at a given moment?
Weather, hormones physical sensations? Habitual thought patterns?

[Chester]

I clearly understand what you are saying abob, and agree when the word 'weapon' is used in the sense of 'to deliberately wound'.

Have you ever had someone very upset with you...so upset their anger boils over and they want to start a fight...

Actually, yes, not long ago on this very forum... ;)



Is my lack of anger, my inner peace, a weapon? Their reaction would say yes. In my heart, I say no. What say you?

Conflicted emotional reactivity is not a symptom of true spirituality. Inner peace is. Words often complicate and confuse, as much as they clarify. I would not call inner peace a weapon, I would call it our natural state. If one wishes to designate it as a weapon, that would indicate the sense of or belief in a threat that requires defense. However, all we are ever really trying to protect and defend is some fabricated image we have of ourselves. In true spirituality, there is no "other".

Blessings!

At my deepest level, I agree fully with you, another bob.

At the same time, I understand how we can sometimes get riled up even though our heartfelt intentions are aimed at similar goals, to see... to live in a world of peace.

I discovered that when I get all wound up by a post in Avalon, there is something within me I still haven't faced, haven't owned and have yet to deconstruct down to the various lies I told myself to create the "anger flareup." I found it best, first, not to "react" post. I then attempt to perform the above process. I have been making good strides in undoing many of the lies I have told myself... the lies I bought into and I am having some very different experiences now in my life.

A shame it may all end in the next 5 to 8 months... soon to be 4 to 6 months. But who knows... I found it a pretty safe bet to bet on love, because I have never seen a single case where love did not win a bet.

Glad to see you here Belle and another bob and Beren and Christian and Logan and WhiteCrowBlackDear and Anchor and Rocky_Shorz and all my other friends here.

justone

EDIT: and Ulli... wow, I just ran across your post!;)

[Chester]

So if you want to activate your 'junk' DNA you need to live a life of peace, harmony and unconditional love, you need to make yourself useful by showing the way to those you come in contact with, by your own attitude and way of life. You must walk the walk. You are what you think.
Love to All
Ray

Just yesterday, the light bulb went off to this quantum being that I finally received the answer to one of my most compelling questions... and that has been, "What is the foundation of my intentions." And the answer I (finally!) got was - "Attitude."

I then strangely began to consider, is my attitude a choice? I am now in experimental stage in this regard. I will report my conclusions once I am comfortable I have enough data gathered.

Something smells to me like I might be on the right track.

Thanks, Ray... Love to All, Chester

I do see you are on the right track here, Chester. To me, attitude is everything.
Getting the handle on attitude is tough, however. It feels like one is pretending....
sort of like an actor, who has to go deep into their emotional memory bank to express
feelings which aren't really there at that moment.
So what causes given attitudes and feelings at a given moment?
Weather, hormones physical sensations? Habitual thought patterns?

I don't act - I "be."

With one exception - the game I am playing at the office I currently work in. But it is a conscious game and thus is honest in that the goal of my game is for the game to go away. It is funny too, in light of Rocky_Shorz excellent post above... that is the same tactic I have been using most of the time. Yet, I also have had to play the, who can be the most forceful individual when two or more are speaking with the "big guy" (the boss person). I am already well hated by the current #1 and so it appears my goals are indeed far along. Strangely, I also sense this person will one day thank me (if their ego will allow) for playing a proactive role in freeing them from their prison.

WoW! Is that one of the things I might be here to do? Interesting - as "the voice" whispers, "yes."

[AwakeInADream]

Just yesterday, the light bulb went off to this quantum being that I finally received the answer to one of my most compelling questions... and that has been, "What is the foundation of my intentions." And the answer I (finally!) got was - "Attitude."

I then strangely began to consider, is my attitude a choice? I am now in experimental stage in this regard. I will report my conclusions once I am comfortable I have enough data gathered.

Something smells to me like I might be on the right track.

Thanks, Ray... Love to All, Chester

That's a wonderfully practical approach to have towards the spiritual path, I guess that's what this forum is all about.
I like the idea that your 'Attitude' forms your intention to to look back on itself as 'Attitude', this is rather like the talk of 'One Consciousness' becoming the many so that it may experience itself.


About the notion earlier, of spirituality as a weapon. I have felt like this at times, but not any more. I now see spirituality as our last and only hope...
"The Only Way to Win, is Not To Fight", I can't remember where I heard that phrase, it's just come into my head...

[Ba-ba-Ra]

So if you want to activate your 'junk' DNA you need to live a life of peace, harmony and unconditional love, you need to make yourself useful by showing the way to those you come in contact with, by your own attitude and way of life. You must walk the walk. You are what you think.
Love to All
Ray

Attitude and Intention - two big ones in my book. I remember years ago a co-worker saying to me: "It's not what you say, it's how you say it." Of course at the time, I didn't get it fully. Now I realize my tone of voice and attitude are so important - as well as understanding my own intention. (i.e. Am I really trying to help here, or am I looking for recognition or trying to get my own way, etc. And then, the follow up question: Why am I[ (you fill in the blank)

Just yesterday, the light bulb went off to this quantum being that I finally received the answer to one of my most compelling questions... and that has been, "What is the foundation of my intentions." And the answer I (finally!) got was - "Attitude."

I then strangely began to consider, is my attitude a choice? I am now in experimental stage in this regard. I will report my conclusions once I am comfortable I have enough data gathered.

Something smells to me like I might be on the right track.

Thanks, Ray... Love to All, Chester

Attitude and Intention - two big ones in my book. I remember years ago a co-worker saying to me: "It's not what you say, it's how you say it." Of course at the time, I didn't get it fully. Now I realize my tone of voice and attitude are so important - as well as understanding my own intention. (i.e. Am I really trying to help here, or am I looking for recognition or trying to get my own way, etc. And then, the follow up question: Why am I[ (you fill in the blank).

As long as I keep pulling back the layers of what I'm doing and honestly looking at the "Whys" - I keep moving forward in an upward direction and my life continues to become more joyful and placid.

As for 'Why we're here': I believe there's a collective reason, which is to elevate human consciousness - but also, each has a personal reason as well.

But again, that's what I think right now. Ten minutes from now it may be different.