Unknown Virus in the UK

[Kiforall]

Just seen this:
http://uk.lifestyle.yahoo.com/two-dead-contracting-mystery-virus-102554228.html?nc

[AriG]

Can't imagine where I've heard that Saudi's carried something into a Western Country and then died leaving a fascist state in their wake. They sure do seem to like being the fall guys in this cosmic drama. Be on the look out for mandatory jabs.

edit to add: mandatory vaccinations

[Kiforall]

I was thinking that myself. My partner, who is asthmatic receives a flu jab request every year about this time. The first time he took them up on their offer he was admitted into hospital a few days later with abscesses on his tonsils. Since then the letter goes in the bin and surprisingly he's never died of flu.

[Lifebringer]

Garlic up people, strengthen the body naturally. Garlic is the body's anti-biotic immune system friend.

[Kiforall]

Garlic up people, strengthen the body naturally. Garlic is the body's anti-biotic immune system friend.

I give all my horses raw garlic but I can't manage to eat it like that and have been led to believe that processed garlic i.e. powder, capsules etc have lost the essential properties of the raw ingredient.

[Cjay]

Garlic is great and so are many other plants. I believe it is better to have many complimentary botanical helpers than it is to rely on just one, no matter how good it is.

[Rocky_Shorz]

NOVEL CORONAVIRUS - SAUDI ARABIA: HUMAN ISOLATE
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Date: Sat 15 Sep 2012
From: Ali Mohamed Zaki [edited]


A new human coronavirus was isolated from a patient with pneumonia by Dr Ali Mohamed Zaki at the Virology Laboratory of Dr Soliman Fakeeh Hospital Jeddah Saudi Arabia.

The virus was isolated from sputum of a male patient aged 60 years old presenting with pneumonia associated with acute renal failure. The virus grows readily on Vero cells and LLC-MK2 cells producing CPE in the form of rounding and syncetia formation.

[The clinical isolate] was initially tested for influenza virus A, influenza virus B, parainfluenza virus, enterovirus and adenovirus, with negative results. Testing with a pancoronavirus RT-PCR yielded a band at a molecular weight appropriate for a coronavirus. The virus RNA was tested also in Dr. Ron Fouchier's laboratory in the Netherlands and was confirmed to be a new member of the beta group of corononaviruses, closely related to bat coronaviruses. Further analysis is being carried out in the Netherlands.

The Virology Laboratory at the Dr Fakeeh Hospital will be happy to collaborate with others in studies of this virus.

--
Ali Mohamed Zaki
Professor of Microbiology
Dr Fakeeh hospital Jeddah Saudi Arabia


[ProMED-mail welcomes the opportunity to communicate Dr Ali Mohamed Zaki's invitation.

Human coronaviruses were 1st isolated in the mid 1960's from volunteers at the Medical Research Council Common Cold Unit in Salisbury, England. The family _Coronaviridae_ is comprised of a group of RNA-containing viruses that are associated with respiratory infections in humans and animals, including pigs, cats, dogs, mice and chickens. The group was so named because of the crown-like projections on its surfaces. Coronaviruses are enveloped viruses with a positive-sense RNA genome and with a nucleocapsid of helical symmetry. The genomic size of coronaviruses ranges from approximately 26 to 32 kilobases.

The classification of the coronaviruses is complex and subject to progressive revision. There are at least 3 genera: The genus _Alphacoronavirus_, which includes bat, human and porcine viruses; the genus _Betacoronavirus_, which includes a murine species; and the genus _Gamacoronavirus_, which includes avian and marine mammal coronaviruses. - Mod.CP

A HealthMap/ProMED-mail map can be accessed at: http://healthmap.org/r/1HAJ.]

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[conk]

25,000 units of vitamin D3 daily, along with vitamin K2, will boost your immunity greatly. Perfectly safe.

Should you contract a virus:

1. 50,000 units of vitamin A for a week
2. 50,000 units of vitamin D for a week
3. Vitamin K2, not sure of amount....say two standard capsule doses
4. MMS
5. Collodial Silver
6. Oil of Oregano
7. Food grade hydrogen peroxide, 35% diluted 12 to 1. Several drops at a time, 2x a day
8. Mad quantities of probiotics
9. Calcium lactate with quality omega-3 fatty acids
10. Lots of clean water

If desperate find a doctor who will administer oxygen therapies. Hyperbaric oxygen will kill most any pathogen.

[Arrowwind]

There hasn't been a viral infection that vitamin C has not cured. You just need to know how to use it right. Most peole dont know how.

[Sierra]

Garlic up people, strengthen the body naturally. Garlic is the body's anti-biotic immune system friend.

I give all my horses raw garlic but I can't manage to eat it like that and have been led to believe that processed garlic i.e. powder, capsules etc have lost the essential properties of the raw ingredient.

Have you tried chicken soup? I can put 40-50 cloves of garlic in chicken soup, and the cloves come out tasting very mild.

[ulli]

Garlic up people, strengthen the body naturally. Garlic is the body's anti-biotic immune system friend.

I give all my horses raw garlic but I can't manage to eat it like that and have been led to believe that processed garlic i.e. powder, capsules etc have lost the essential properties of the raw ingredient.

Have you tried chicken soup? I can put 40-50 cloves of garlic in chicken soup, and the cloves come out tasting very mild.

That sounds more like garlic soup than chicken soup to me. ;)

[Sierra]

Garlic up people, strengthen the body naturally. Garlic is the body's anti-biotic immune system friend.

I give all my horses raw garlic but I can't manage to eat it like that and have been led to believe that processed garlic i.e. powder, capsules etc have lost the essential properties of the raw ingredient.

Have you tried chicken soup? I can put 40-50 cloves of garlic in chicken soup, and the cloves come out tasting very mild.

That sounds more like garlic soup than chicken soup to me. ;)

You'd think so but it doesn't!

[Sidney]

Sounds to me like a pre-curser to the big FLU SHOT PUSH..

[WhiteFeather]

You would defeat the purpose of garlic if it is cooked (placed in soup) or sauteed. Raw is the only way to benefit from this wonder herb. I eat raw garlic with my meals at night. No need to stink out people all day with garlic creeping out of your pores.

[sirdipswitch]

I eat a bunch o garlic, and the mosquitos, won't even land on me. cccccc. keeps nosey people outta my space, too. ccc.

[Czarek]

sounds like Iran is testing grounds.

[mahalall]

How contagious is it?

Transmission appears to be "very limited", says the agency: if it were very contagious, there would have been more cases in more countries, as well as in those caring for the two cases, the first of which happened more than three months ago. The incubation period is currently thought likely to be seven days.

However, the agency says it is bests to err on the side of caution. The patient in the London hospital is being treated in strict isolation, and staff are wearing appropriate protective equipment and clothing, including respirators, goggles, gowns and gloves.

Coronaviruses are fairly fragile, surviving outside the body for only about 24 hours. They are easily destroyed by detergents and cleaning agents.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/sep/24/sars-coronavirus

[Cjay]

There hasn't been a viral infection that vitamin C has not cured. You just need to know how to use it right. Most peole dont know how.

That is a very big claim. Can you back it up with proof? References?

[Arrowwind]

There hasn't been a viral infection that vitamin C has not cured. You just need to know how to use it right. Most peole dont know how.

That is a very big claim. Can you back it up with proof? References?

Go to www.vitamincfoundation.org (http://www.vitamincfoundation.org) and start reading... this will keep you busy for a week or two. References and case reports abound there. Use their search feature and type in any disease you are concerned about and articles will likely come up.

this is what I found on Polio: http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/www.orthomed.com/polioep.htm

and west nile: https://www.google.com/search?output=googleabout&sitesearch=www.vitamincfoundation.org&q=west+nile+virus

for those curious on dosages of vitamin c to cures a serious situation I just found this, this was the dosage given to that guy, Smith, in New Zealand who was cured of the swine flu with vitamin c after docs gave him up for dead. If it were me I would have started out with 50 grams, not 25 and amped up from there.

With the new lipsomal c such blood levels can be obtained at home without an IV

"For those doctors wondering about doses, I communicated directly with the brother-in-law. He informed me that on the Tuesday following the initial "deadline" 25 grams was given intravenously. On Wednesday, 25 gram infusions were again repeated twice. Thursday the patient received 75 grams, and starting on Friday he received 100 grams intravenously and stayed at this dose daily for another 4 to 6 days. Then the new consultant had the vitamin C discontinued completely. One week later, the IVC was restarted at only one gram twice daily. "

[conk]

There hasn't been a viral infection that vitamin C has not cured. You just need to know how to use it right. Most peole dont know how.

That is a very big claim. Can you back it up with proof? References?
There are countless naturopaths using IV Vitamin C therapy who can attest to it's efficacy. Functional medicine. Results based.

Thanks Arrowwind. Can't believe I forgot C in my list. 30 to 40 grams of C intravenously will kill viruses, YES.

And........drum roll...........ascorbic acid in NOT vitamin C. Just one of many articles you can find: http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/vitaminc/ascorbic-acid-is-not-vitamin-c/

[fathertedsmate]

bring on any virus,send out as much bacteria as possible,keep poisoning me with chem trails, i now dont care, nothing they throw at me will ever effect me or my family, if it does then it will be cured

[avid]

Vitamin D3: 5 - 10,000 iu's per day, 1,000 iu's per day Vitamin C, colloidal silver back-up (home-made) 30 ml per day plus more if and when required to boost immune system. You MUST include live natural products to maintain gut flora. Vitamin B12 3mg daily. It seems to work for years now, NO VACCINATIONS ALLOWED! Avoid fluoride water/toothpaste. Avoid sweetened drinks with aspartame (more brain death poison). Eat organic! Good luck - this seems to work for us :-)

[Cjay]

Thanks for the information and links, Arrowwind and conk.

Many people think "treat" is a better word than "cure". One meaning of "cure" is to relieve the symptoms of a disease. In that case, you could be right. Another meaning of "cure" is to completely rid the body of an infection. It would be impossible to prove that every single virus (or other pathogen) had been killed.

Does the vitamin C itself actually kill the viruses or does it work because vitamin C supports the immune system in fighting infections?

We could debate this for days, which I'm sure none of us wants to do. I'm sincerely grateful for the information you have shared.

I am not an apologist for big pharma, the FDA, etc. In fact, I despise their corruption, profit obsession and the dangerous side effects of most pharmaceutical medication. Most of us here at PA know that big pharma are not in the business of selling cures because curing diseases would eliminate their repeat business.