Keshe 5kw Plasma Generator Sales December 2012

[WhiteFeather]

For The Alternative Energy Enthusiasts. Enjoy!
It appears that M. Keshe The Iranian Physicist along with The Keshe Foundation will be announcing its first sales of The 5Kw Free Plasma Technology Generator this December. A Breakthrough In The Alternative Energy Spectrum. This could level the entire energy playing field. And with other advanced technologies In The Alternate Medicine Spectrum by The Keshe foundation, it could level the playing field in the medical monopoly industry as well.


Purportedly, the generators, costing €5,000, will provide continuous, clean power. Keshe said the generators create energy from the creation of the plasma and the release of dynamic magnetic field interactions. He said it doesn't come from the environment.

3-4 kW isn't enough to handle higher loads in a home, but with a battery bank and inverters, you could store low-usage times to handle high-usage peak times. Similarly, 3-4 kW could power an electric vehicle (via the same principle).

Pre-ordered 5kW generators expected to be available in December. Also, a demo of the gravity-modification technology is scheduled for Dec. 14. Three U.S. astronauts from Moon missions are expected to attend.

Here were the highlights from the event.

Keshe announced that those who have previously purchased the 5kW generators (there were 10,000 pre-orders available) could expect them to be available some time in December, but they would need to figure out a way to pick them up.
Keshe announced that on December 14, they will be holding a large event (5,000 seats) holding a demonstration: Full Space and Energy of the Technology. Astronauts, one of whom has landed on the Moon, are likely to attend. Keshe privately showed me a response from one of them, dated Sept. 20, confirming that he will be attending. Keshe doesn't want the name disclosed yet.

http://pesn.com/2012/09/21/9602183_Interviews_with_MT-Keshe_Konstantin-Myel_September_21_Lecture/

Letter To The Puppet Of The USA here: President Obama, you have effectively placed a boycott on Keshe technology, identifying this man of peace as a terrorist. The technology offered freely by Mr. Keshe will make war obsolete, clean up the environment, provide medical tools, and take us to space. We urge you to send our best scientists to accept this technology on September 21. Doing so may save our planet for your children and for ours.

"M.T. Keshe has offered free, to all countries of the world, his plasma technology, which would provide benefits in the fields of medicine, environment, national defense, and space travel. These advances will make the necessity of war for oil unnecessary and obsolete. Because this technology was used, according to Mr. Keshe, to enable Iran to capture a US drone, intact, he has been identified as a terrorist by the US government. (Avaaz; September 21, 2012)

"Technology exists, it is here and it belongs to you". The Keshe Foundation



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrN99RELqwo&list=PLA7D02F1BF716728F&index=1&feature=plcp


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[13th Warrior]

Do you have more information on how this plasma generator is purported to function?

6,500 US Dollars is a lot of money for only 5000 watts of power.

[WhiteFeather]

Do you have more information on how this plasma generator is purported to function?

6,500 US Dollars is a lot of money for only 5000 watts of power.

Some FAQ's from The Keshe Forum http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=313


http://www.keshefoundation.org/images/keshe_generator/Keshe_generator.jpg

http://www.keshefoundation.org/images/keshe_generator/Electricity_Production_400.jpg

http://www.keshefoundation.org/images/keshe_generator/Simple_Electricity_400.jpg


http://www.keshefoundation.org/pdfs/Prof.Van_Overmeire(VUB).pdf

Check out the link here.
http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/shop/product/view/2/3

[mescalitto]

Thank you WhiteFeather this post has really made me smile , Perhaps this is truely the beginning :D Good old Keshe!

[Kimberley]

Greetings!

This is a very important topic IMHO :-) I personally only had this come to my attention last week and it has been what has had my attention and what I have been studying for less than a week.

As I am writing this I am listening to Kerry Cassidy's livestream interview with Mehran Tavakoli Keshe that she did in April of this year.

http://www.livestream.com/projectcamelotlive/video?clipId=pla_de9b5d6c-b3d9-49b7-b490-f7d3e74b354a


There are three other threads on the Keshe Foundation that have gathered a lot of information...


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50026-Incredible-Keshe-Foundation-Health-Videos-Posted-on-Website

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49379-Mehran-Keshe-participated-in-an-in-depth-interview-yesterday--Sept-2-2012-

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48157-Keshe-Foundation-sends-warning-to-the-US-and-its-associates&highlight=Keshe+Foundation


Jean-Luc got me in touch with Mr Keshe this past friday. Thank you Jean-Luc!

I am in the process of setting up an interview... here is the e-mail I received:

Dear Mrs.Kimberley,

Mr. Jean Luc gave me your email address and we woul like to have a skype to skype interview between you and the Keshe Foundation.

Before we organise this we would like to receive the following information?:

Who do you represent?
What is the name of your company/broadcast etc.?
What is your profession?
What will be the subject of this interview?.
How long it will take?
We would like to have the transcript whithin 3 weeks after the broadcast ?:
Where and when will the skype interview be held? (European Time).
Mr. Keshe is very bussy at the moment so we can plan an interview sometime in October/November 2012.

In the meantime keep promoting the Keshe Foundation:www.keshefoundation.com
Thank you for your interest in the Keshe foundation and we wish you a pleasant day.

Yours Sincerely,
Desiré


Desiré Blok
Secretary of M.T. Keshe

The Keshe Foundation
www.keshefoundation.com


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I am going to ask Keshe to give his view on the Galen Winsor nuclear energy scam information. And I have other questions of course. When I have a set date I will ask for questions from the forum.

and I also want to note this information:

Below found here on lady dragons web site:

http://www.ladydragon.com/news2012/22091201.html

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MONTREAL--(LadyDragon.com)22/09/12--M.Keshe said that the lecture went " Fantastic".

This interview was done by Sterling D. Allan of Pure Energy Systems News

M. Keshe start by announcing that the people that purchased the 5 KW Plasma Power Generators will get delivery in December.

On December 14, there will be a presentation in Belgium in an auditorium of a capacity between 3000 to 5000 people where hopefully he said that an Americain Astronaut will be present.

Plus M.Keshe said that the U.S. Goverment " might block the proposition"

For the first time The Keshe Foundation will show the reactors in public plus there will be the presentation of their Space Technology Program.

M.Keshe was asked about this conference, M. Keshe said this is not a conference, it is part of the teaching process.

Today was the first teaching and we will have a second one on the Medical on November 07 then on December 14 and one in January.

Click here to listen to the entire interview

Also M. Meyl was also there talking the Tesla Technology.

SOURCE: PESN


Whoo hoo were are so close!!!! Much love to us all!! :grouphug:

[WhiteFeather]

Things do look like they are perhaps getting close to heaven on earth. Thanks for Sharing Kimberly, I cant wait to hear the interview you are doing with Keshe shortly. Please keep us posted.

Signed....Another Lightworker, Much Like Yourself Kimberly! Love your Light, and please keep it shining brightly throughout. ~W.f~

[therinkydinktink]

Yes great stuff Kimberley I'm sure there are literally hundreds if not thousands of questions people will want asked.

[Paranormal]

I hope that (almost) free energy has finally arrived!

[WhiteFeather]

Free Energy wasn't the question of it being present. The question is how can it be implemented in a benign way so not to cause a whole economical free fall.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Bankers weren't worried about them getting nukes, they are afraid of this...

Something that will take away their control...

the heat from the coils can produce enough steam to power it without the Nukes...

good try Iran, try pushing for using Thorium instead...

just as much power, but no way to create a bomb...

they would know your intent was peaceful...

[Tane Mahuta]

Do you have more information on how this plasma generator is purported to function?

6,500 US Dollars is a lot of money for only 5000 watts of power.

5000watts of power...FOR EVER!!!...

5000watts?...could it be portable...have to wait until it's released.

TM

thanks whitefeather

[Cjay]

Do you have more information on how this plasma generator is purported to function?

6,500 US Dollars is a lot of money for only 5000 watts of power.

5000watts of power...FOR EVER!!!...

On this page (http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/shop/product/view/2/3) it states:
Prices:

3-4 KW AC/DC units : € 5 000
10 KW AC/DC units : € 20 000


I'm not sure where the figure of 5,000 watts came from.

Let's do some simple calculations.

Based on a recent electricity bill, we are paying 18.55 cents per kWh. (Prices vary a lot depending on where you live.)

3 kWh (3,000 watts of continuous use for one hour) would cost $0.5565 per hour.
4 kWh would cost $0.742 per hour.

If we used 3 kWh continuously for 24 hours, it would cost $13.356 per day.
If we used 4 kWh continuously for 24 hours, it would cost $17.808 per day.

Based on the exchange rate (http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert/?Amount=5000&From=EUR&To=AUD) at the time of this writing, 5,000 EUR = 6,188.07 AUD (The exchange rate varies many times each day)

$6,188.07 / $13.356 = 463.3 days (approx.) at 3 kW output
$6,188.07 / $17.808 = 347.5 days (approx.) at 4 kW output

After that, the power is truly free.

Based on what I know of the Australian power industry, the wholesale price - the price the power stations sell electricity to the distribution companies - is about 6 cents per kWh.

Even if the retail price of electricity was slashed to the current wholesale price (which is NOT going to happen any time soon due the high costs of maintaining the national power grid infrastructure), the 3-4 kW Keshe plasma generator would pay for itself in about 3 to 4 years.

People who live far from the major cities pay almost twice as much for their electricity, so they would break even in 1.5 to 2 years.

[spiritguide]

The control of energy is at stake and the controllers (government) will fight this with payoff from the energy industry as in the US government war on coal. Now is the time to watch the official reaction to this and call out any official who tries to makes this harder to obtain than it should be. We have a chance to help ourselves on this one and if Obama and his rogues won't allow import we must show those folks (government) that they will be voted out or totally exposed for the frauds that they are. IMHO We have a chance to do something so speak out!

[GoodETxSG]

I have researched this quite a bit for some time and even discussed it with some of my VERY highly educated and respected science field friends who are open minded to their credit. All agree if lagit this would truly be a world changing tech...

The dark side has pretty effectively hit the foundation though with disinfo, slander and out right discredit from "accepted science".

I myself see that the principals are sound as do my friends. It will be a miracle if the foundation is able to make it to a public demonstration without sabotage or sudden arrests.

We will see, I for one have my fingers crossed as what a wonderful world my children will inherit compared to the path this one is on.
TY WF!

[GoodETxSG]

Free Energy wasn't the question of it being present. The question is how can it be implemented in a benign way so not to cause a whole economical free fall.

"FREE ENERGY" does not ONLY meaning cost free energy but also FREE of combustive and constantly bought and Replenished fuel. You do not have to pay for fuel to put into the creation of the energy thus it is FREE... AND/OR it takes in less energy than it puts out (Not exactly free). free of pollution as well ideally.

[13th Warrior]

Do you have more information on how this plasma generator is purported to function?

6,500 US Dollars is a lot of money for only 5000 watts of power.

5000watts of power...FOR EVER!!!...

On this page (http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/shop/product/view/2/3) it states:
Prices:

3-4 KW AC/DC units : € 5 000
10 KW AC/DC units : € 20 000


I'm not sure where the figure of 5,000 watts came from.

Let's do some simple calculations.

Based on a recent electricity bill, we are paying 18.55 cents per kWh. (Prices vary a lot depending on where you live.)

3 kWh (3,000 watts of continuous use for one hour) would cost $0.5565 per hour.
4 kWh would cost $0.742 per hour.

If we used 3 kWh continuously for 24 hours, it would cost $13.356 per day.
If we used 4 kWh continuously for 24 hours, it would cost $17.808 per day.

Based on the exchange rate (http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert/?Amount=5000&From=EUR&To=AUD) at the time of this writing, 5,000 EUR = 6,188.07 AUD (The exchange rate varies many times each day)

$6,188.07 / $13.356 = 463.3 days (approx.) at 3 kW output
$6,188.07 / $17.808 = 347.5 days (approx.) at 4 kW output

After that, the power is truly free.

Based on what I know of the Australian power industry, the wholesale price - the price the power stations sell electricity to the distribution companies - is about 6 cents per kWh.

Even if the retail price of electricity was slashed to the current wholesale price (which is NOT going to happen any time soon due the high costs of maintaining the national power grid infrastructure), the 3-4 kW Keshe plasma generator would pay for itself in about 3 to 4 years.

People who live far from the major cities pay almost twice as much for their electricity, so they would break even in 1.5 to 2 years.

From the OP
Pre-ordered 5kW generators expected to be available in December.

So, what is it 3,4 or 5 Kw? Experience tells me the stated figures to be over inflated anyhow.

What about the 100 Euros per year(maintenance fee) to be collected by the UN?

Does the maintenance fee include hydrogen refueling or are you required to supply your own hydrogen generator?

[Mad Hatter]

Hmm... from the PESN site comments section I liked this one best...


I could demonstrate my anti gravity brick. If you place it in your hand and throw it upwards towards a window not only does it fly, but it actually passes through the window, causing a transmutation of the window (tinkle tinkle) into air.
Upon passing through the window it miraculously returns to the ground. It is being suppressed by the law makers who feel that this technology can cause upheaval when in the hands of the wrong people and is a threat to national security.
I am willing to open source this for a large payment into a Cayman Island account.
Kind Regards

December eh... just in time for powering up the ascension machines...?? :cool:

@ Kimberley if you'd be so kind as to ask for a copy of the manufacturers warranty including the fine print I'm sure some of us would be most appreciative. :p

@ Cjay 3-4 KW AC/DC units : € 5 000 10 KW AC/DC units : € 20 000

Bugger... looks like you won't be able to gang 4 x 3-4kw units to get 12-16kW for your € 20 000... :(

[Cjay]

Bugger... looks like you won't be able to gang 4 x 3-4kw units to get 12-16kW for your € 20 000... :(

Why not? Is there a limit of one per customer?

IF Keshe's generators really work as described, I'm sure they will sell a lot of them. Mass-production will drive the price down to about 1% of the price for first-adaptors of the technology. I remember CD players (not burners) entering the market around $3,000 and now you can buy a Blu-ray DVD/CD burner for around $30 (much better technology for 1% of the original price). And Keshe is not the only vendor of "free" energy devices. I expect it to be a highly competitive market.

[Cjay]

Free Energy wasn't the question of it being present. The question is how can it be implemented in a benign way so not to cause a whole economical free fall.

I think free energy will dramatically boost the economy. It will, however, cause economic freefall for "fossil" fuels and centralised power generation companies.

[sdv]

This technology is for the rich. The maintenance fee is a little more than what I am paying for electricity at present. The cost of buying the technology is way beyond my reach (the unit I have at present is provided free of charge by the electricity provider and supplies me with 60 KW capacity).

The ecological benefits of Keshe's technology are great, but his technology is for wealthy nations and wealthy people and thus will not transform the world.

The technology that truly does supply free power and change the live's of communities is such like the Roundabout Playpump. But I suppose that the world is filled with different groups of people and Keshe is developing technology for the wealthy elite. Perhaps his technology will inspire inventors to do the same for those who are not wealthy in many different ways and thus truly reduce the world's dependence on fossil fuels.

[WhiteFeather]

This technology is for the rich. The maintenance fee is a little more than what I am paying for electricity at present. The cost of buying the technology is way beyond my reach (the unit I have at present is provided free of charge by the electricity provider and supplies me with 60 KW capacity).

The ecological benefits of Keshe's technology are great, but his technology is for wealthy nations and wealthy people and thus will not transform the world.

The technology that truly does supply free power and change the live's of communities is such like the Roundabout Playpump. But I suppose that the world is filled with different groups of people and Keshe is developing technology for the wealthy elite. Perhaps his technology will inspire inventors to do the same for those who are not wealthy in many different ways and thus truly reduce the world's dependence on fossil fuels.

The trick is to get this technology out there into mainstream society, and then all hell will break loose, tying up the hands of the greedy energy mafia. Im sure!

[TargeT]

The trick is to get this technology out there into mainstream society, and then all hell will break loose, tying up the hands of the greedy energy mafia. Im sure!

the E-cat had similar promises, if not the same level of backing as M. Keshe; I hold about the same level of hope for this device as that... 5mw is a good starting point, but they really need to push out a 15-30mw unit... & soon.

the initial sale is of course the thing that everyone waits for, until that happens its just promises, but once it does, I think you're right, the avalanche will have started & the energy companies (and power structures that leverage them) will be in trouble.

[Rocky_Shorz]

the problem is, those with money will buy up everything produced and make their own power plants making it illegal for anyone else to have it...

saying it is $5000 to a poor person is the same as saying a million...

if there was anyone with a brain in Government, this technology would be used to pay for the government instead of some greedy bankers's pocket that is already over lined...

this release is already proving it isn't for the commoner...

don't even ask, just keep groveling like good little slaves...

[onawah]

Interview with M.T. Keshe Continues Tonight


Keshe Foundation: Geoffrey West’s Interview with M.T. Keshe Continues Tonight on Cosmic Vision News Special

For all those readers who have been asking about the Keshe Foundation, here is your chance to hear from the founder himself.

Part 2 of Geoffrey West’s interview with Mehran. T. Keshe, the Founder of the Keshe Foundation, continues tonight in a special broadcast of Cosmic Vision News airing on InLight radio at 5pm PST/8pm EST (Monday October 1). CVN is airing at this special time, the usual time for An Hour With An Angel, which isn’t airing this week as Linda Dillon is in transit.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/inlight_radio/2012/10/02/an-hour-with-an-angel

The show will also feature a discussion on Iranian leader, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Geoffrey will be joined by both Steve Beckow, a former member of the Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada – who will talk about his own personal experiences with refugees from Iran and their harrowing tales at the hands of Ahmadinejad’s regime – and myself.

The interview with Mehran Keshe – or M.T. Keshe as he is also known – is a coup for Geoff. However, as the Cosmic Vision News anchor pointed out in his introduction to Part 1, which aired last Friday on Cosmic Vision News, this is an “unusual” interview…

“Right from the start the energies were very strange and I honestly don’t know what to say about it,” Geoffrey told listeners.

“I think it is best to simply play the interview and let you, the listener, decide what to make of it”.

Having heard the interview, Mr Keshe seems to deflect most questions and actually seems to have little respect for the ordinary everyday people who have been inquiring about his technology.

Part 1 is here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.the2012scenario.com/Keshe+Interview+Only+27SEP+Part+1+with+commentary.mp3

Part 2 will feature in tonight’s special broadcast of Cosmic Vision News.

That’s Cosmic Vision News Special Broadcast (

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/inlight_radio/2012/10/02/an-hour-with-an-angel

The Keshe Foundation is an independent non-profit and non-religious organization founded by nuclear engineer M.T. Keshe that aims to develop new scientific knowledge, new technologies and new solutions to major global problems like famine, water shortage, lack of electrical power supply, climate change, and disease, through the use of specially developed plasma reactors which will also give Mankind the real freedom to travel in deep Space.

You can find out more about the Foundation by heading here: http://www.keshefoundation.org/


FROM:
http://the2012scenario.com/2012/10/keshe-foundation-geoffrey-wests-interview-with-m-t-keshe-continues-tonight-on-cosmic-vision-news-special/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=keshe-foundation-geoffrey-wests-interview-with-m-t-keshe-continues-tonight-on-cosmic-vision-news-special

[TargeT]

Having heard the interview, Mr Keshe seems to deflect most questions and actually seems to have little respect for the ordinary everyday people who have been inquiring about his technology.



I couldn't agree more, every time I hear this man speak it comes off as arrogant, elitist, sometimes threatening and always evasive.... the more I hear the less I think he is being honest about what he says he is trying to-do or doing.


if this is the way we break free from the false scarcity of oil based society, then I guess I accept it, but it doesn't feel right to me.

[TargeT]

A week to go! I'm excited & truly do hope there is a product offered to the public, currently there seems to be a limited offer but I cannot find an actual purchase method.


Sale of Keshe Foundation 3-4 KW and 10 KW Plasma Power Generators

Details
Category: Power generators


We are initially offering 10,000 units of 3-4 KW AC/DC and 1000 units of 10 KW AC/DC portable domestic Keshe electric power generators.

http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/applications/energy/power-generators

[Billy]

Keshe presentation in Holland tomorrow 26th nov.

Quote from Keshe.
The Keshe Foundation site has been down for 48 hours in the past days and is up and running again we needed to upgrade and to add the new site which is to be upload later on this week.

The 26th of November presentation in Eienhoven, in Holland can only be book through the organisers site.the Elektor magazine and not the Foundation site.

The systems to be shown in this presentation are pre-agreed with press and will not alter.

Those whom would like to see flying sources will be disappointed as this is an energy presentation venue and all has been agreed in detail with the press as they have tested our systems to be shown independently before and have published articles about them in their magazines in the past.

The booking link
http://www.elektorlive.nl

Look for the Keshe presentation in the workshop booking section.

[Tane Mahuta]

I just want them "Keshe" to release the science to mainstream...to the world. Release the science!!!

Let independant engineers carry out their own research!!

TM

[Jean-Luc]

Latest news from Keshe with strong accusations against Belgian government officials.


[M.T. Keshe - Nov 25, 2012 - 18:00] What a shame that a few pedophiles in the smallest nation on this continent are keeping the rest of the European nations in the doldrums of 18th century science, and persuading them to ignore the potentials of this ground-breaking technology.

http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3148


The rest of his post is worth reading.
Still, things will look very diffently once the first units are out.
If they do.


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Post edit

In case you would have any doubtsa about this, the paedophile problem is not confined to Belgium
cf. "Satanist Pedophiles Rule Great Britain" (Nov 25, 2012)
http://www.henrymakow.com/illuminati-pedophiles-run-brit.html

[TargeT]

Will the generators still be delivered in December?

Why can't you record a presentation and upload it online for the entire world to see instead of trying to conduct live technology presentations?

When asked for proof, you've stated that some technological institutions in the UK have working generators on their possession; can you name them?



The delivery should be on time.

We have shown record of weight reduction on the video on the USB stick to government.

It is for people whom have done it to declare their work.



So the dec. 14 conference is canceled, but the generator sale doesn't appear to be altered, so hopefully we will see something soon.


Is there a list of countries Kesche is working with ( all I see mentioned is that they include 60% of the worlds population & one is Italy)

[PathWalker]

I do not believe Free Energy will ever be commercialized.
For the following reasons:
1. Commerce is fully controlled by TPTB.
2. TPTB control the people by creating fake scarcity (energy, food, health...).
3. TPTB will fight for their power/lives, with teeth and bones.

I believe Free Energy will go public by the same way open software went:
1. Open source the technology (almost no one practically care about the science principals).
2. Public replication cannot be stopped (it is not possible to outlaw the wheel).
3. Open technical standards will emerge (as in internet/telecoms/transportation).
4. A new competitive industry will emerge. To provide service and products.

The counter measures form TPTB to open sourced Free-Energy solutions:
1. Out law the usage for safety and/or environmental concerns
2. Control and/or eliminate critical raw materials (magnets, wires, metals...)
3. Control and/or eliminate mass production. Buy-outs, corporations, sabotage.

These measure will not be effective in developing countries with weak government power (Africa + South America).
There will always be black market, driving TPTB into cannibalistic/capitalistic dog fight. Eventually taking over the new emerging market.
A new grass root industry will emerge, immune to commercial centralization. But very prone to organized crime syndicates (see diamonds/human-trafficking/drugs).

I am extra optimistic.
There is too much open sourced free energy solutions see http://peswiki.com/index.php/Main_Page .
It cannot be stopped anymore. it is only a matter of time.

[Kimberley]

TagetT Jean-Luc started this thread Nov 16 that answers your question "Is there a list of countries Kesche is working with ( all I see mentioned is that they include 60% of the worlds population & one is Italy) "

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52098-Keshe-US-Russia-China-India-Brazil-Japan-now-have-received-the-blueprints

[Jean-Luc]

I do not believe Free Energy will ever be commercialized.
For the following reasons:
1. Commerce is fully controlled by TPTB.
2. TPTB control the people by creating fake scarcity (energy, food, health...).
3. TPTB will fight for their power/lives, with teeth and bones.

I believe Free Energy will go public by the same way open software went:
1. Open source the technology (almost no one practically care about the science principals).
2. Public replication cannot be stopped (it is not possible to outlaw the wheel).
3. Open technical standards will emerge (as in internet/telecoms/transportation).
4. A new competitive industry will emerge. To provide service and products.

The counter measures form TPTB to open sourced Free-Energy solutions:
1. Out law the usage for safety and/or environmental concerns
2. Control and/or eliminate critical raw materials (magnets, wires, metals...)
3. Control and/or eliminate mass production. Buy-outs, corporations, sabotage.

These measure will not be effective in developing countries with weak government power (Africa + South America).
There will always be black market, driving TPTB into cannibalistic/capitalistic dog fight. Eventually taking over the new emerging market.
A new grass root industry will emerge, immune to commercial centralization. But very prone to organized crime syndicates (see diamonds/human-trafficking/drugs).

I am extra optimistic.
There is too much open sourced free energy solutions see http://peswiki.com/index.php/Main_Page .
It cannot be stopped anymore. it is only a matter of time.

Very nice overview.
Here are some updates from Keshe this morning (Nov 27) http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3148&start=20



Q. As I am in the final construction phase of a reasonably well outfitted workshop / backyard lab, I would be very interested to know which universities in or near Connecticut that accept your technology for research. My intent is replication and teaching others how to replicate.

A. You should be able to do the lift system in the lab very easily if you read the patents the way they are written and not using the old physics principles.


Q. Will the generators still be delivered in December?

A. The delivery should be on time.


Q. Why can't you record a presentation and upload it online for the entire world to see instead of trying to conduct live technology presentations?

A. We have shown record of weight reduction on the video on the USB stick to governments.


Q. When asked for proof, you've stated that some technological institutions in the UK have working generators on their possession; can you name them?

A. It is for people whom have done it to declare their work. We will translate in every language that everyone can help themselves not to be behind others. We will find a way to demonstrate our systems do not worry about that, and if we do not do it early next year a nation will do it for all, now that the technology is in the hands of too many nations.


Q. I would like to ask a question regarding the plant [Ford major factory scheduled to be shut off]. You are saying that when the plant closes, 14 000 people will be unemployed and the Foundation can prevent that if it is given the plant to produce its technology. Does that mean ordinary citizens can work at the plant? By "ordinary" I mean people who were not part of the Foundation before and are not familiar with the new technology. What would a typical job be once production starts at the plant? How long would the training be?
Does the plant need to be in Belgium, why not one of the countries that already joined the SSP?

A. To set-up a plant like Genk takes years, these plants are usually equipped with the edge of technology systems and can be utilized immediately.
Anyone can work at these plants to produce the systems. We tried with GM motor plant in Antwerp three years ago and at that time we were not aware what the government was doing with us.
Now we that we know so now we let the public know.
We can take the technology to any country today and start within 30 days the production if plants like this are available to us.
It is estimated that this new technology will employ more people in 10 years than computer technology of today.


Look, guys: Everyone is holding his breath with the scheduled release of a limited number of Keshe generators in the coming weeks and the message will be considerably easier to convey once this happens, if it does. Keshe once again just confirmed this should happen according to plan.

The Ford-Genk closing of its factory in Belgium (Genk) with 14 000 people laid off is pretty real. And I am pretty sure Keshe did make a proposal for mass production (just as he did 3 years ago after the closing of the GM factory in Antwerpen). I do think this is really authentic.

I have contacted a number of government’s officials. To this date it's just like talking to a death person. But at least, they know we know they know.

Let's see how all this unravels in the coming weeks.
December 2012, what an interesting month, isn't it ?

[Billy]

I have contacted a number of government’s officials. To this date it's just like talking to a death person. But at least, they know we know they know.

Let's see how all this unravels in the coming weeks.
December 2012, what an interesting month, isn't it ?

Well done Jean-Luc. I also have sent emails to Scottish Government MSP'S and the first minister himself, No response whatsoever. I had a one to one meeting with the environmental MSP last year and gave her all the details. but no follow up response.

The Envirornmental MSP did say that their hands were tied, as the policy for new technology has to be presented through either Universities or the Private sector after research has been completed through those bodies. So i also asked the scientific departments of Edinburgh and Aberdeen University to at least research this technology. No reply yet again.

Banging you're head against a brick wall indeed.

But i keep trying. My next step is to have a meeting with my local MP. They are obliged to respond within 20days of the meeting.

Peace

[Billy]

Keshe's thread calling for a formation of study groups is hotting up.

http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3191&start=120

peace

[TargeT]

Project Camelot interview with Keshe

http://www.livestream.com/projectcamelotlive/video?clipId=pla_bcf4fdeb-cbfa-4520-a6ca-eca134616952

Keshe says that everything needed is in the patents, so this video below could be very accurate as it is made based off the patents.

at 1:04:00 Keshe says that in a few weeks his website will begin teaching how to use his patents and presumably build a reactor.



Video of the Keshe generator technology (based off keshe web site)

Keshe energy machine simulation animation translation Chinese to English:
Website: http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/
Keshe reactor

Reactor components:

1. Inner core is the material that can be penetrated by the ray particle, hydrogen and microscale potassium is placed there.

2. Outer core is made of metal. Hydrogen is placed there.

3. The outer circle of the inner core is covered with the conductive copper coil.

Video by: bigstudio Qiankunpiaoling(a name)

Contact via QQ: 351481989 Wuxianxingsheng(a community name): 121300326

We select hydrogen as the material of the experiment, because it is the lightest element in the universe, there is no neutrons in the nucleus, only one proton and one outer electronics, so the coulomb force of it is the smallest.

Firstly, let us understand the theory of keshe, each material has a magnetic attraction circle, and it will be in effect with other substances to find their own position again.

In the experiment, we use potassium of microscale to induce hydrogen and make the ionization dilution occur.

When the magnetic attraction circle of potassium atom attracts the magnetic attraction circle of hydrogen atom, the coulomb force of hydrogen is disintegrated and separated. There will be a new dynamic plasma field formed in the inner core. The particles will find their situation again in the inner core and reorganized and restored while they close to each other.

The inner core which is led by the attraction of dynamic plasma field from the potassium will rotate—the green and purple colors are the magnetic attraction circle, the outer core will rotate slowly as well, its repulsion will fix the position of the center of the core, its gravitation will prevent the leakage from the free electronic of hydrogen.

There is light produced at the junction of the magnetic of the inner and outer core due to the collision.

Video by: bigstudio Qiankunpiaoling(a name)

Contact via QQ: 351481989 Wuxianxingsheng(a community name): 121300326

Keshe reactor

The principle of the reactor:
1. hydrogen and microscale potassium are placed in the inner core, the weak electric dilution will be started by the potassium, then a dynamic plasma magnetic gravitational field will be produced.

2. The reacted hydrogen will release electrons and protons. They will be pushed out of the inner core by the repulsion of the inner electronics.

3. The particles which have been launched will be pulled back by the attraction field of the inner core. The free particles will be restructured to hydrogen atoms.

4. An outer core electronic field will be produced by the interaction of the free particles from the inner core and the hydrogen element in the outer core, which can prevent the leakage of particles from happening.

5. The inner core will counter rotate after the device start working. The gravitational field and the magnetic field will be formed like the north and south poles of the earth. The inner core will counter rotate, and the rotation will make the electrons move directionally, when the electrons pass by the coil, the electricity will be produced.

Video by: bigstudio Qiankunpiaoling(a name)

Contact via QQ: 351481989 Wuxianxingsheng(a community name): 121300326

Do you have a feeling that it seems to have met before? Exactly,this is the something of ancestors, the eight diagrams. The hydrogen with 0 number of neutron, plus the elements with the number of neutron more than 1, the force of Yin and Yang can push the core rotate endless and make it leave the core of material, produce the sky, ground,mountains, rivers, wind, fire, etc on the surface of the earth. The wisdom of the 0 and 1 from our ancestors was used by the foreigners to invent the computers, and as a free energy generator again at present... the generation of us which inherited the most intelligent civilizations on earth, should wake up.


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I STILL can't find a place to make an order for a generator...........:smow:

[apokalypse]

Free Energy isnt free when you have money to it....

[TargeT]

Well I can't say I didn't see this comming:


Announcement about the delivery of the Foundation Generator
Announcement about the delivery of the Keshe Foundation Generators

Following the receipt of a registered letter from the Belgian nuclear authorities in the last weeks, it has become apparent that the systems which are to be supplied may be subject to confiscation by any authority who might assume that the technology is using certain materials for the production of energy in the reactors of the generators.

In order to guarantee that once the purchaser has received their system it cannot be taken away from them through some technicality, the Foundation has brought forward a new type of reactor technology which no nation or government can stop or can block the use of.

For this reason we have redesigned and corrected a number of systems in the reactor in order to comply with all international laws with respect to the use and safety of the systems.

Because of these adjustments, we have to delay the delivery of the systems by 45-60 days from 31.12.2012.

The systems in this cycle will be corrected and be delivered from elsewhere in Western Europe (not from Belgium) so that collection and delivery will be easy.

We apologise for the delay, but we did not want to think that any of you who have paid the Foundation for a system might lose your investment by confiscation, and that is not what we planned.

Therefore we request from our applicants to bear with us and we try to update you by 30.1.2013 and then every week up to the time of delivery before the end of February 2013.

Applicants can ask for a refund of their deposit if they wish, or you can allow us to correct the necessary points in design and you will receive your system within 60 days from 31.12.2012.

Yours faithfully
M T Keshe
On behalf of the Keshe Foundation
18.12.2012

http://forum.keshefoundation.org/showthread.php?931-Announcement-about-the-delivery-of-the-Foundation-Generator

he mentions people who have put deposits on generators... I haven't for the LIFE of me ever been able to find out where a generator could possibly be ordered from...

45-60 more days apparently... at least I have something to wait for now that "2012" has passed! :roll:

[Arrowwind]

You know, Ive been through the Keshe foundation website and I find it just hard to find credible. They say they have 3 -4 kw and 10 kw generators and that some people have actually prepaid for them. Yet, no photos, no generators in action. A general lack of real substance for the average guy out there looking for energy alternatives.

Is there something real to look at and actually working to view?

[enfoldedblue]

When i look back at old keshe stuff from years ago it seems to be the same thing....soon, very very soon.

[TargeT]

You know, Ive been through the Keshe foundation website and I find it just hard to find credible. They say they have 3 -4 kw and 10 kw generators and that some people have actually prepaid for them. Yet, no photos, no generators in action. A general lack of real substance for the average guy out there looking for energy alternatives.

Is there something real to look at and actually working to view?

I have also extensively searched for this info, pictures, anything. The best I've actually found is that video in Chinese I posted a few links up that describes the "how" the plasma reactor works, it seems very possible (given a few things can be overcome, like some of the material required).

Keshe seems very confident, and supposedly once his website is "upgraded" he will be hosting videos and giving lectures on how to replicate his work.

I'll not completely write him off but I am currently making no plans based around his power generation or anti-gravity devices.

[Arrowwind]

You know, Ive been through the Keshe foundation website and I find it just hard to find credible. They say they have 3 -4 kw and 10 kw generators and that some people have actually prepaid for them. Yet, no photos, no generators in action. A general lack of real substance for the average guy out there looking for energy alternatives.

Is there something real to look at and actually working to view?
I have also extensively searched for this info, pictures, anything. The best I've actually found is that video in Chinese I posted a few links up that describes the "how" the plasma reactor works, it seems very possible (given a few things can be overcome, like some of the material required).

Keshe seems very confident, and supposedly once his website is "upgraded" he will be hosting videos and giving lectures on how to replicate his work.

I'll not completely write him off but I am currently making no plans based around his power generation or anti-gravity devices.

Yep. So far its looking fairly suspect to me.
Where's the meat?
Show me the meat.
I want to see the meat!

[Etherios]

Here working alternative generators :-P E-Cat in Swedish TV (http://ecat.com/news/the-ecat-featured-on-swedish-television)


I am still waiting for Keshe .... to show something similar...




p.s. i messed up the url naming :-P

[onawah]

I don't know why, but when I clicked on the link in the previous post, it didn't work, but when I copied it here and then clicked on it, it worked.

http://ecat.com/news/the-ecat-featured-on-swedish-television

[conk]

Yep. So far its looking fairly suspect to me.
Where's the meat?
Show me the meat.
I want to see the meat!


Authority: Shut up and eat your soy!

[Jean-Luc]

For those looking for some meat...

This is one of the homeworks I did to double-check the reality of Mr Keshe's claims.

As a Belgian resident, I call the Federal Agency for Nuclear Control (http://www.fanc.fgov.be/page/homepage-federaal-agentschap-voor-nucleaire-controle-fanc/1.aspx) in Belgium last week to see (1) if they knew Keshe at all in the first place (there is a complete media blackout on Keshe in Belgium and around) and (2) to check if indeed he was prohibited to market his power generator.

After some hesitation, they indeed told me that the device was prohibited, the official reason being they lacked information on some of its components.

In other words, what Keshe is telling us in that respect is quite real.

In response to this, Merhan Keshe posted the following some days ago :





Announcement about the delivery of the Keshe Foundation Generators http://forum.keshefoundation.org/showthread.php?931-Announcement-about-the-delivery-of-the-Foundation-Generator

Following the receipt of a registered letter from the Belgian nuclear authorities in the last weeks, it has become apparent that the systems which are to be supplied may be subject to confiscation by any authority who might assume that the technology is using certain materials for the production of energy in the reactors of the generators.

In order to guarantee that once the purchaser has received their system it cannot be taken away from them through some technicality, the Foundation has brought forward a new type of reactor technology which no nation or government can stop or can block the use of.

For this reason we have redesigned and corrected a number of systems in the reactor in order to comply with all international laws with respect to the use and safety of the systems.

Because of these adjustments, we have to delay the delivery of the systems by 45-60 days from 31.12.2012.

The systems in this cycle will be corrected and be delivered from elsewhere in Western Europe (not from Belgium) so that collection and delivery will be easy.

We apologise for the delay, but we did not want to think that any of you who have paid the Foundation for a system might lose your investment by confiscation, and that is not what we planned.

Therefore we request from our applicants to bear with us and we try to update you by 30.1.2013 and then every week up to the time of delivery before the end of February 2013.

Applicants can ask for a refund of their deposit if they wish, or you can allow us to correct the necessary points in design and you will receive your system within 60 days from 31.12.2012.

M.T. Keshe



We aren't there yet. But Keshe has never been so clear cut in terms of dates.

Being skeptical and highly critical is fine.

But how can we help make this happen?

How about a bit of positive thinking / prayer?

Any other positive idea?


NB. On the positive side, the Keshe Foundation has just updated its forum engine and now works with vBulletin, just like Avalon.

[Arrowwind]

But still, really, why no photos? no demonstrations? just some elementary drawings..

[TargeT]

We aren't there yet. But Keshe has never been so clear cut in terms of dates.

Being skeptical and highly critical is fine.

But how can we help make this happen?

How about a bit of positive thinking / prayer?

Any other positive idea?


NB. On the positive side, the Keshe Foundation has just updated its forum engine and now works with vBulletin, just like Avalon.




But still, really, why no photos? no demonstrations? just some elementary drawings..


A video with some out put figures, even if it's just some strange tiny ball that looks like nothing would go far to quelling doubt... hell even the E-cat has that!

has there been any third party review of a working generator? (the e-cat is supposedly in this process now)

So far it's a lot of "keshe says" and a few hard to understand patents; which are apparently purposefully difficult as keshe himself has eluded to.

[Arrowwind]

yep, Im done with looking at this stuff until something tangible turns up.

[Jean-Luc]

But still, really, why no photos? no demonstrations? just some elementary drawings..

Your argument is of course valid. And I have been asking the same question.

How about accepting the fact, for the time being (i.e. not for another year), that some delay is acceptable and that he HAS his reasons for so doing?

Yes, it's a little irritating. But so what? After all, after so many years (eversince Tesla), is waiting for 60 days such a big deal?

[Kimberley]

The video demonstration (below) might help... I thought of starting a new thread, however I have come to realize that this topic seem to not be being followed very much, something I do not really understand...???

Anyway after my interview with mr keshe a couple of weeks ago (found here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53117-Kimberley-s-interview-w-Mr-Mehran-Keshe-12-10-12-Please-Listen-Important--- ) and his videos about the people that have been healed of various diseases and aliments (found here: http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/media-a-papers/health-kt-videos-all )

I am convinced this is all the real deal...And so looking forward to the very near future... :grouphug:

A Must Watch...only 6 minutes!!!

Keshe Plasma Generator ~ Breaking Laws of Physics ~ Infinite Energy

kkB2g7ai2bs



oh I almost forgot these lecture video's in Italy Dec 15th that have some demonstration information... (Mr Keshe speaks in English and has an Italian interpreter with him)

Keshe, frammenti dalla Conferenza del 15 Dicembre 2012.

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Conferenza stampa Keshe a Montichiari (BS) 15 dicembre 2012.flv
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[Jean-Luc]

Careful though with this 6 minutes show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkB2g7ai2bs
I wouldn't say it's a must watch although this young American chap is certainly well intentionned (and my hat off for him trying this).

But he is getting very, very little voltage (60 mV) out of his device, which can be linked to all sorts of reasons.
The bottom line is that this is probably just an artefact (like it is so often the case in the field of FE).

I am actually surprised Sterling Alan did post that video here: http://pesn.com/2012/12/22/9602251_Keshe_demo_product_release_delayed_to_prevent_confiscation/

(It was NOT posted by Keshe, by the way...)


Let's not our enthusiasm blur our vision and critical mind.



Patience...

[jaybee]

The video demonstration (below) might help... I thought of starting a new thread, however I have come to realize that this topic seem to not be being followed very much, something I do not really understand...???

Anyway after my interview with mr keshe a couple of weeks ago (found here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53117-Kimberley-s-interview-w-Mr-Mehran-Keshe-12-10-12-Please-Listen-Important--- ) and his videos about the people that have been healed of various diseases and aliments (found here: http://www.keshefoundation.org/en/media-a-papers/health-kt-videos-all )

I am convinced this is all the real deal...And so looking forward to the very near future... :grouphug:

A Must Watch...only 6 minutes!!!

Keshe Plasma Generator ~ Breaking Laws of Physics ~ Infinite Energy

kkB2g7ai2bs




I like this video...thanks Kimberley...I was only having a chat with someone earlier

today about the 'cola bottle' thing....harnessing electrical energy and 'harvesting

graphene'...(if that's a good way to describe it)

In one of Keshe's interviews..I think it was the first one with Kerry..someone asked

him why he was only giving the technology to governments and not to the people

(this was a few months ago)....and Keshe made a short, bit cryptic reply along the

lines of.....'we gave it to them in 2008'


I thought..huh!?!....then checked that the cola bottle video's came out in 2008 and I

wonder if this is what he was refering to. Don't know.

lol...I hope I am remembering this right.



Jean_Luc...I don't understand how the results in the above video could be

an 'artefact' if he got a result and measured it more than once..?

It was a result even if he only got 'very little voltage'

???


I certainly don't want to argue about it with you in any way....:)....but I don't get

why you are down on this video....

Isn't it very similar to the one that Keshe himself made of the cola bottle plasma

reactor?

.

[jaybee]

.


here's Keshe demonstrating the Bottle Plasma Reactor...


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video info...


Uploaded on 13 Jan 2008


In this video (two parts: total 15 minutes) Nuclear engineer Keshe demonstrates with a non-acidic liquid inside a simple waste-bottle, used as a plasma reactor, that it is possible to create low levels of energy and that atomic carbon-layers are deposited on the inside electrodes, which is confirmed by a Nuclear Center after independent replication, and is confirmed by a leading Nano-Institute in Europe after Raman spectroscopy. For the creation of the carbon sp2 and sp3 and the energy, no additional sources like magnets, lasers, arcs or gamma rays is used. See http://www.keshetechnologies.com/keshe_pure_plasma.html

The experiment happens at room temperature and normal atmospheric pressure.

To Keshe, the physical interactions and events which are forced inside the plasma reactor are similar or identical to those that happen over a longer time-scale on micro- and macro-level in the Universe, like the formation of stars and galaxies, supernova's, black holes, dark matter, gravitational effects, radiation, fission and fusion, and so on.


part two...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y4HYmqGuwE




I wonder what the 'non acidic' liquid is...?

speculation....natural unrefined sea salt mix? Ormus?.....

or could it be anything that's non acidic..?


:confused:


.

[Shade]

I am not an expert of free energy devices and I have not looked at everything that Keshe has to offer on this one, but I too am not seeing strong evidence of its workings. Is there a paper that describes in proper scientific detail how this thing works. I don't mean the cursory descriptions given on his foundation's site, I mean the real specs that detail how it works to the core of the physics of it. Because I want to know how it works so I can say ok... that's the real deal then.

For instance, the only other generator I have looked at is Rugerro Santilli's plasma arc generator. I read up on the tons of intricate papers he has describing the physical theories behind the production of the free energy from these devices and its hadronic mechanic basis and I believe that I understand how they work and that the physics appears sound [his stuff got patented and gobbled up by private companies I believe, but the science behind it is freely available]. Now - I don't see anything like that with this Keshe thing. If there is such material and someone can direct me to it, thank you.

[meat suit]

.


here's Keshe demonstrating the Bottle Plasma Reactor...


zLaZnjk23HU


video info...


Uploaded on 13 Jan 2008


In this video (two parts: total 15 minutes) Nuclear engineer Keshe demonstrates with a non-acidic liquid inside a simple waste-bottle, used as a plasma reactor, that it is possible to create low levels of energy and that atomic carbon-layers are deposited on the inside electrodes, which is confirmed by a Nuclear Center after independent replication, and is confirmed by a leading Nano-Institute in Europe after Raman spectroscopy. For the creation of the carbon sp2 and sp3 and the energy, no additional sources like magnets, lasers, arcs or gamma rays is used. See http://www.keshetechnologies.com/keshe_pure_plasma.html

The experiment happens at room temperature and normal atmospheric pressure.

To Keshe, the physical interactions and events which are forced inside the plasma reactor are similar or identical to those that happen over a longer time-scale on micro- and macro-level in the Universe, like the formation of stars and galaxies, supernova's, black holes, dark matter, gravitational effects, radiation, fission and fusion, and so on.


part two...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y4HYmqGuwE




I wonder what the 'non acidic' liquid is...?

speculation....natural unrefined sea salt mix? Ormus?.....

or could it be anything that's non acidic..?


:confused:


.

just go and read the first page of comments below the youtube video.... maybe that gives us some idea why this is a 'no show' so far...

[jaybee]

just go and read the first page of comments below the youtube video.... maybe that gives us some idea why this is a 'no show' so far...

I know..I've seen the comments...:rolleyes: There is a lot of vitriol directed at Keshe.

But he just chugs on...;)


.

[Jean-Luc]

Latest news from Keshe, today:


"Due to delivery from suppliers for some parts of the new seal systems we are behind the testing and releasing the generators.
Once we receive the newly manufactured parts in the second week of March from the manufactures: It will take us another 15 to 30 days to test and finally release the generators.
It has to be said that Foundation has only received less than 150 deposits for generators, which this even does not justify production cost of systems on commercial bases.
But as we have promised and we are fine-tuning the systems and will deliver the less than 150 units to whom placed the orders for them.

Therefore it is up on you whom have ordered to make a decision if you like to wait for the final testes or recall your deposits and the Foundation within 30 days of your request will transfer the founds back to the account which the founds was originally received from.
We are not happy with the situation, but there were situations which we could not work under and deliver systems which were going to be confiscated, or to be recalled.
There has been physical practical damage to the seals due to operation and it had to be corrected and these failures could not be foreseen and now new systems for correcting this failure has been developed and are getting manufactured and being in the process of being assembled and we start test in the next 15 days.
We are very optimistic that this will solve the seal problem and allows us to deliver systems without failure.
These seals were not needed for nuclear based systems and now we have to use them for the non-nuclear systems and problem were not foreseen.
The damage comes through usage and thus it had to be corrected.

I hope those whom ordered understand and we leave the decision up on you to recall your deposit or allow us to correct the systems that we can deliver a full working system to you.

M.T. Keshe"

Full text available here : http://forum.keshefoundation.org/showthread.php?222-Sale-of-Keshe-Foundation-3-4-KW-power-generator/page10

[TargeT]

I looked all over for a place to order a generator... Never fond one; does anyone have a link?

[RMorgan]

just go and read the first page of comments below the youtube video.... maybe that gives us some idea why this is a 'no show' so far...

Yeah, I agree.

Anyone who played with a DVM (Digital Voltmeter) knows that it will give positive readings on almost everything conductive you hook it, specially if it´s a cheap one, or if it´s close to an energy source that could cause interference.

You can hook one to a lemon and have a much higher positive reading than what was shown in the video, but it doesn´t mean a lemon is a plasma generator.

The video itself doesn´t prove absolutely anything.

Please, don´t get me wrong. I´m not saying that Keshe is a charlatan. At least not for now.

As I said before, we´ll just have to wait a bit more to see if he´s the real deal or not.

He´s been postponing his deadlines for finally showing the real product for years now. If he doesn´t show his device until the end of this year, then I´ll have to put him on my scam list.

Anyway, I advise you to do not invest significant amounts of money in his project before seeing any real evidence.

Raf.

[Cristian]

how long is "a bit more" Raf? 2 weeks, two months ...? When exactly are you going to decide? :rolleyes:

[RMorgan]

how long is "a bit more" Raf? 2 weeks, two months ...? When exactly are you going to decide? :rolleyes:

Hey mate,

Well, I´m not even worried about that, because I haven´t invested a penny in his device.

Would it even matter if I considered him a scam or not? I guess it wouldn´t.

All I know is that he´s postponing the actual demonstration of his technologies since 2009. Since then, he´s missing one deadline after another. He was supposed to demonstrate his lift (anti-gravity) technology in five continents in 2010, just for you to have an idea.

There is also this stuff about him accepting reservations for a 10 hours flight over 60 km above Earth for 19.000 Euros, and 50.000 Euros for a trip to the moon, that allegedly will happen between 2015 and 2017.

Man, all of this is at least very, I mean, VERY suspicious.

So far, it´s just unfulfilled promises, one after another.

Like we say here in Brazil, mentiras tem pernas curtas (lies are short legged), meaning that lies can´t go very far. We´ll see soon enough.

The question is, would you invest your hard earned money in a project, without seeing any real evidence that it actually works, besides some cool speeches and powerpoint slides? I wouldn´t.

Honestly, I don´t know how he´s got so far showing zero evidence that his technology actually exists.

Raf.

[Cristian]

The question is, would you invest your hard earned money in a project, without seeing any real evidence that it actually works, besides some cool speeches and powerpoint slides ?


nope :)

also we say the same here in Romania : minciuna are picioare scurte "mentiras tem pernas curtas" must be our common latin origin :)

[TargeT]

mentiras tem pernas curtas (lies are short legged), meaning that lies can´t go very far. We´ll see soon enough.

what always got me was the level of arrogance I saw displayed over just a bunch of talk and confusing as hell patents.

if it works, great, so far though.... I don't see anything to get too excited over.

[TargeT]

We have been informed this week that the manufactures of the reactors would resolve the last problems of the production the coming week and then the systems will be ready to be handed over for the initial testing of the non-nuclear based technology for 3kW power system.

http://forum.keshefoundation.org/showthread.php?222-Sale-of-Keshe-Foundation-3-4-KW-power-generator&p=9577&viewfull=1#post9577

So I would assume in the next couple of weeks that we will hear more news.

[Gardener]

Just to chip in on this thread with some musings about free energy device production. This is subjective thought which is part of the problem, and these are just ideas.
In the longer term we likely will move into a phase change in energy supply because we will understand more deeply the implications of our existence in light and frequecy.

We are not quite there yet, for a numer of reasons.
1. The oil based economics are massive and their supporters/benefactors will go to any length to hold the status quo. Many have died or suffered huge deafeats, confiscations and personal loss at the hands of these monolithic monsters.
2. Our (everyone on earth) collective frequency is being artificially held in many ways in a miasma which many call the matrix, affecting our personal ability to transcend oppression, and access this fine energy.

I believe we are on the right road, the thoughts, ideas, and inventions coming forward are an indication this is so. Humanity in general does not yet have the stability and heart centered intentions to take the next step, even though some do, they are rare, there is still a need for humanity (you and I) to clean its house to access that from which this energy will come.

I sometimes (sadly) think that we need some form of global event which puts out the current phase energy for people to get into their heart and see what really matters. Take power away from the monolithic self obsessed oligarchies, level the playing field. See what we are left with in this hologram and work our way through it.

[TargeT]

New date for Info: End of May


The Keshe Foundation making the following announcement regarding the development of the power generator.

The non-nuclear reactor that is the basis of the power generator was received from the manufacturers this week.

The reactor will be put through the setting and start-up processes in the next 2- 3 weeks.

Following this the Foundation starts the full testing of the new system and during this phase starts developing the plasma in the core using the non-nuclear material core.

We will report the results to the forum by the end of May.

From time to time we will post on this forum videos of the tests or pictures of the results from the Foundation’s lab.

As we promised, we gave the USB sticks to governments and waited for their response.

Last year we started negotiations with several organizations and governments to bring the power generator into mass production in different nations and into the hands of the public.

Now in most cases the technology has gone from government to industrial partners and from this point on the technology is in the hand of each nation.

The scientists from these nations will come to the Foundation research center or we will go to them and they will develop their own prototype for their nation.

The Foundation with their commercial partners has guaranteed mass production in six nations.

The next step after June will be the process of certification in each nation.

From this point on the knowledge and know-how is in the hands of more than 100 scientists around the world and the new technology is available to the world of science.

In time we will make the technology available to the general public.

From now on it is the responsibility of the commercial partners in each nation to announce who they are and where they are with regard to the commercialization.

As part of our agreement with all partners, the Foundation will deliver power generators to those who do not have the financial resources to afford them easily and thus the technology will reach the poor at the same rate as the rich.

Thus class division will be overcome through science and we will allocate all profits from our commercial stake in the production of the generators in each nation to the benefit of its own citizens, so that the comfort of all will be improved at the same speed.

This principle of spending of profits on its citizens is written into the mandate for the commercial activities of the companies in each country and hence our ethos is adhered to.
M T Keshe

Director of the Keshe Foundation

http://forum.keshefoundation.org/showthread.php?222-Sale-of-Keshe-Foundation-3-4-KW-power-generator&p=10153&viewfull=1#post10153

5 months over due isn't terrible I suppose for what this generator could do.

[sygh]

Do you have more information on how this plasma generator is purported to function?

6,500 US Dollars is a lot of money for only 5000 watts of power.

5,000W is 5kW, and is more than enough to power a home, especially with energy saving appliances, correct lighting, good insulation, and passive solar design. Have you done an energy audit of your home? The biggest power consumption comes from heating or cooling anything, be it the house, water or, drying clothes. Generally, we don't have all appliances running at the same time. And, if the power is clean, cheap and convenient who give a darned, right?

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/resources/images/video/wattage_calculator/wattage_calclulator.html

3-4 kW is actually plenty, as long as heating coils aren't involved. Heck, we could even build a plasma generator into a heating and cooling circuit, or cooking units, etc... with a separate plasma generator for the rest of the home. There are all sorts of possibilities.

The electricity produced by the Keshe plasma generator is D/C. The two things about D/C is the fact that one, it doesn't travel long distances very well and two, because we created a utility grid based on centralized generation, we don't have a lot of D/C appliances. But even the utilities know centralized power and the energy grid is obsolete. (It should have been obsolete a long time ago but...) Since we can make one of these or purchase one already made, we don't need to convert D/C to A/C, we just need more D/C appliances to be offered at a lesser cost to the customer. And again, a small generator could literally be built into the appliance. It's a fricking hit!

Keshe is an absolute hero of humanity and the planet at large. If you go to the foundation website, you will see there are all sorts of plasma generating patents coming form all sorts of companies and some individuals who are just waiting for the governments who are holding it back to give the OK. We need to call our government's hand by demanding the technology! We have got to stand behind, in front of, and to the side of Keshe. This could be one thing or, it could be another but I've taken the time to read some of his (long) patents. I was coming to some of these same conclusions myself, probably from the higher shared consciousness; I've decided to back Keshe 100%, and am asking everyone on Avalon and Camelot to back him as well.

Its has taken a long time to get here and some convoluted travels but... I have come to the conclusion that the deliberate bust of 2008 definitely, and maybe even 2001, has everything to do with this. We've known the technology has played a part but we didn't really know just how much this all played into it but we did - but we didn't, know what I mean? (LOL) TPTB wanted to control the technology, or destroy us, or both. In 2008 they reaped our lands and our savings and have condensed fiscal holdings into a few hands. However, as with any family, as the generations grow, the split gets smaller, and we've seen that come about as well. Yet another reason to want more from Joe and Jill.

As to the decent ones in a position of power and control, they're probably trying to figure out how this is all going to work. I say, play it as it lays and find out first hand!

[sygh]

The basic unit of Keshe's unified theory is the neutron as described
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UFCYwXi1Vs

and this link... it moves quickly so you will have to watch it several times and stop it occasionally. I'm sure this has been posted here before but the explanation is so good, it can be posted again. This is the most exciting information ever to be put out to the public!

:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHqd8BkNZpw

This lecture below is great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRBjtYW6qI4

[Jean-Luc]

Latest news about the Keshe Generator


Announcement by the Keshe Foundation in respect to the 3_4 KW power generators.

Following the development and testing of new materials for space reactor technology for production of plasma in a non-nuclear reactor in the past months, the Keshe Foundation has achieved successful testing in creating and maintaining plasma in these new generation of reactors that we are satisfied to precede with the production of the power generators using the new phenomena.

As the result of this success, the development and preproduction of commercial energy units in conjunction with the keshe Foundation Italy team has started.

The full production phase will follow in the first weeks of 2014.

The Foundation informs the less than one hundred people around the world who have reserved these power units; the delivery of their systems will be fulfilled as systems are produced in February -March 2014.

We thank you for your patience and trust in the work of the Foundation.

Attaining the national certificate for entry and use of these systems will be up on each individual purchaser.

For European users, they can choose to wait for the delivery up on the Foundation submitting and receiving EU certification or they can arrange for the certification by themselves.

Now that the energy unit tests are completed, The Keshe Foundation will start negotiation with governments around the world for the use and implication of the space Magravs systems for motion in early 2014.

This section of the technology will be released first to governments for them to be able to put effective regulations in place for their further use for transportation and cross borders control.

The reason for this move by the Foundation is that the flight systems can involve national securities and we make sure that no nation is left out or can be affected negatively through this development.

We would like to thank members of the Keshe Foundation Italian team, whom have supported us in finishing the last stages of this reactor devlopment.

At the same time, they have become the developers and the producers, and they will carry out the commercialization of power generators in Italy for the Italian nation.

M T Keshe
The director of the Keshe Foundation
Dec 19,2013

http://forum.keshefoundation.org/forum/keshe-official/announcements/280-sale-of-keshe-foundation-3-4-kw-power-generator?p=30271#post30271



Rome wasn't built in a day.

This isn't the first promise.
But there has been reasons for the latest 1 year delay, namely the redesign of the generator with 100% non-nuclear items.

Let's see how things develop.

[Kimberley]

Thank you Jean-Luc! I have a hard time navigating the Keshe forum since it changed...

I have been so looking forward to this news! :grouphug:

[aviators]

Mr. Keshe the world is waiting. Hope you come through and have a lot of benevolent
help.

Looks like this technology will bring star travel and healing too. Below is a new video on the First Public Health Workshop. Godspeed

7PCO2BUFzQ0

[13th Warrior]

Sygh,

You can pretty much do this now with solar panels and a wind generator...and most likely even cheaper by the time Keshe gets anything to market...

Hell; I could buy a 4kw gas generator for $300.00 and build an ethanol still for many thousands of dollars less...

[Kimberley]

Thank you aviators for posting the workshop...wow over 4 hours...It will take me a while to get through the whole thing...so until then can you give us a synopsis aviators?

Thank you!

[aviators]

Thank you aviators for posting the workshop...wow over 4 hours...It will take me a while to get through the whole thing...so until then can you give us a synopsis aviators?


Thank you!

Kimberley sorry if I dropped such a big one here.
At best I could go back and and take some cliff notes on this skipe interview.
Too much to cover for now.
He appears to be onto some universal principals that perhaps were known at one time and forgoten or suppressed. Another Tesla type (way outside the box)
Mr Keshe views on science is profound and if proven to be true will rewrite science
as we know it. The feeling I get is everything is connected and if you know how to create the right conditions you can cure anything. Create and move mater. Etc....
What I like most about his message is he wants to share all his work with the world!
;)

[Nick Matkin]

So... are we really, Really, REALLY going to see something from Keshe early in 2014? If not then perhaps it's time to call it a day. I mean, how many release dates have to be missed before someone has the guts to stand up and shout "this is all bollocks!"

Nick

[aviators]

[QUOTE=Nick Matkin;775787]So... are we really, Really, REALLY going to see something from Keshe early in 2014? If not then perhaps it's time to call it a day. I mean, how many release dates have to be missed before someone has the guts to stand up and shout "this is all bollocks!"

Nick[/t QUOTE]

Well I agree seting dates that don't come true is a let down. No one wants to be let down over and over.:(
I believe this technology exist. Most likely ancient civilizations had it at some point Even here on earth. If all party's get it we will have to work together and not weaponize It. So let's hope 2014 is the year!;) man needs some help though.

[Nick Matkin]

All that Keshe have to do is demonstrate a small version. For goodness sake if they can do this stuff at 4 kW then how about something that produces just a few watts? Let physicist examine it close up to satisfy themselves it's not a hoax. Easy-peasy if they really can do what they claim. But, no. Nothing.

And if any of this over-unity/free energy was real, don't you think by now some maverick students in some university would have made themselves famous by demonstrating it? I'm sure they'd be more than happy with just the fame of releasing the information to the world and to hell with the consequences. So why hasn't it happened?

Well, perhaps it's because:

1) Students believe it's impossible so haven't even tried. But just a minute; students achieve all sorts of stuff that their elders say is 'impossible'. That's what students are good at.

2) They are all terrified that if they do it 'The Powers That Be' will destroy them and all their work. Well, I think bright students could organise their work and the release of data on such a scale that 'The Powers That Be' would be helpless.

3) Young physics students 'discover' the technology regularly, but always get bought off so it's never publicly revealed. You believe that ...?

4) The technology is so advanced that mere physics students don't have access to the knowledge or materials to make it work. This I could believe. But the hundreds of free energy websites and videos suggest it's the sort of thing you can do at home. Just look up the Henderson Generator - and that's just one.

No, sorry. I really doubt that his sort of thing could be hidden and not rediscovered by scientists somewhere, like, say... North Korea?

Nick

[RMorgan]

Well...Everything indicates that Keshe is a snake oil salesman...There are just too many lies and suspicious events in his "career"...Too many to go unnoticed.

Honestly, I don't even know how he managed to gather followers without ever showing even something remotely close to evidence about his "work".

If you're interested in "free" energy devices, stay tuned to Andrea Rossi and his e-cat device; He's much closer to making really efficient energy a reality.

[aviators]

No, sorry. I really doubt that his sort of thing could be hidden and not rediscovered by scientists somewhere, like, say... North Korea?

Nick

Good post and discussion. We are rediscovering hidden technology all the time now.It is much harder to keep the lid on with the internet. Just look at the rediscovery of the Bosnia pyramids. Much larger and older than Giza.
Shirley a technology we don't see being used today. So have we lost past technology ?
Some say Nikola Tesla wanted to share his work with the world and only a small fraction made it to the public.
I'm sure some at the time said he was crazy. Could Mr. Keshe really have something? I don't know?
He sounds like a brilliant man. If you listen to the skipe cast above (sorry its so long) he explained how Iran tried to conform to the UN's transparency request on nuclear energy until there scientist started getting killed one by one. No wounder Iran doesn't want to play by the rules now.

So the question for me is not if its possible,but when are we going to see it? Hopefully soon!
Every week I drive on the highway and think to myself "this is insane" :cool:

[Tangri]

Sygh,

You can pretty much do this now with solar panels and a wind generator...and most likely even cheaper by the time Keshe gets anything to market...

Hell; I could buy a 4kw gas generator for $300.00 and build an ethanol still for many thousands of dollars less...

Now math time for you.
Consider this, Lets say, you were running 4kw gas generator 24/7 for 1 year.
Half tank(10L) runs 8 hour
8x3=24 L for a day
365x24 =8760L gas consumption
As today's Toronto gas price 1 L =$1.26

8760x1.26 = $11.036,6

Add $300 purchase of the generator, $ 11.336,6 will be your bill.
I never like to use vulgar word to insult anybody, usually they do this to themselves.

[Sunny-side-up]

As I understand this subject in regards to Keshe's 5kw Plasma Generator the idea was to get the tech out into the public, to start the enlightenment of new tech! These 5kw generators are just the first prototypes yes?
Getting knowledge out there into dream land!

Besides I would still rather have one of Keshe 5kw Plasma Generators then a Gas-gen when all fuel stops flowing!

[Jean-Luc]

Well...Everything indicates that Keshe is a snake oil salesman...There are just too many lies and suspicious events in his "career"...Too many to go unnoticed.

Honestly, I don't even know how he managed to gather followers without ever showing even something remotely close to evidence about his "work".

If you're interested in "free" energy devices, stay tuned to Andrea Rossi and his e-cat device; He's much closer to making really efficient energy a reality.

Hey Raf, your reaction makes perfect sense and mine would be close to yours if I hadn't had a chance to meet Merhan Keshe personnaly a number of times (when he was living in Belgium & before he moved to Italy for a more hasslefree work environment).

Above all I had a chance to meet and discuss with several of his patients/volunteers astonishingly healed from severe chronic diseases through apparently very simple air & water devices specifically tuned for each of them depending on their health conditions.

In fact the gentleman who was (and still is) handling these patients/volunteers is a very nice Belgian chap /friend who I had met at the Project Camelot Brussels conference in 2009 and who contacted me after I had posted a positive account on ... Andrea Rossi's work on a French citizen news portal early 2012 (link (http://www.agoravox.fr/actualites/technologies/article/e-cat-se-chauffer-pour-20-eur-par-108390)).

Meanwhile I am just trying to keep a balanced skeptical and open mind. We all know (and Wade Frazier in particular) this is a mine field.

If I was a real crook, I think I would find more efficient ways to fool people than to write these lenghty sorts of posts on my forum (an overview of Keshe's posts up untill May 2012 can be found here: http://www.vigli.org/Keshe/Overview_of_MT_Keshe_communications_posted_on_the_Keshe_Foundation_forum_14-05-2012.pdf.

Time will tell.

---

P.S. For those interested, the following is a (non peer-reviewed but still) interesting and quite unique paper : Direct absorption of CO2 and CH4 from the environment and their conversion into nano solution and nano solid matters and production of energy and oxygen by the use of non compound at ambient temperature and pressure. - M.T. Keshe, 2009.
http://www.keshefoundation.com/pdfs/CO2_paper.pdf

[13th Warrior]

Sygh,

You can pretty much do this now with solar panels and a wind generator...and most likely even cheaper by the time Keshe gets anything to market...

Hell; I could buy a 4kw gas generator for $300.00 and build an ethanol still for many thousands of dollars less...

Now math time for you.
Consider this, Lets say, you were running 4kw gas generator 24/7 for 1 year.
Half tank(10L) runs 8 hour
8x3=24 L for a day
365x24 =8760L gas consumption
As today's Toronto gas price 1 L =$1.26

8760x1.26 = $11.036,6

Add $300 purchase of the generator, $ 11.336,6 will be your bill.
I never like to use vulgar word to insult anybody, usually they do this to themselves.

Where did I say anything about using gas?

Save your vulgarity for yourself...idiot!

[Jean-Luc]

Quite a program! It has been announced time and again in the past, but never with such a precise and short term tight schedule.

You and I, and the rest of the world have every reason to be skeptical or even sarcastic about such wild promises.

Still, how about keeping an open mind and a very close watch?




1. We shall put an end first and foremost to the problem at Fukushima in January.

2. In February, we make all efforts to create the environment to stop the production of arms across the world, through release of technologies, which makes the present advance aircraft, missiles, and nuclear weapons irrelevant and ancient.

3. In June, we will deliver technologies, which can deliver sustenance’s to world population totally free of any cost through the release of new systems that can change air into sustainable food and energy supply without a need for farming land that no child will sleep with hunger.

4. By September, we will deliver the technology for every man to be protected from the natural elements like cold and rain without being dependent on other man handout of tents.

We shall make delivery of clean water at any point on earth free of charge a reality by releasing the already developed technologies.

5. By the end of December we will make sure, that there are no grounds for disruption for space travels on regular bases from all the nations on this planet that all shall harvest the reaches of the universe collectively and equally.

Those who have doubts about our work, be ready to become soldiers of the peace and unity before the end of this year.

Source: http://forum.keshefoundation.org/for...r-the-humanity

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Quite a program! It has been announced time and again in the past, but never with such a precise and short term tight schedule.

You and I, and the rest of the world have every reason to be skeptical or even sarcastic about such wild promises.

Still, how about keeping an open mind and a very close watch?




1. We shall put an end first and foremost to the problem at Fukushima in January.

2. In February, we make all efforts to create the environment to stop the production of arms across the world, through release of technologies, which makes the present advance aircraft, missiles, and nuclear weapons irrelevant and ancient.

3. In June, we will deliver technologies, which can deliver sustenance’s to world population totally free of any cost through the release of new systems that can change air into sustainable food and energy supply without a need for farming land that no child will sleep with hunger.

4. By September, we will deliver the technology for every man to be protected from the natural elements like cold and rain without being dependent on other man handout of tents.

We shall make delivery of clean water at any point on earth free of charge a reality by releasing the already developed technologies.

5. By the end of December we will make sure, that there are no grounds for disruption for space travels on regular bases from all the nations on this planet that all shall harvest the reaches of the universe collectively and equally.

Those who have doubts about our work, be ready to become soldiers of the peace and unity before the end of this year.

Source: http://forum.keshefoundation.org/for...r-the-humanity

Ok, Ok, I'll try to keep somewhat of an open mind, promise, but I still have some questions, probably hopelessly uninformed ones, but they are still my simple questions.


1. We shall put an end first and foremost to the problem at Fukushima in January.

Which January, 2014,15,16, and how and is Fukushima really the problem, or is it just nice marketing to use the F word, did you tell the Japanese, do you work with the Japanese, are you going to clean up all other nuclear waste deposits too, what's the timeframe here, who's with you on a global scale, or are you renting a van and drive cross country from pile to bunker one by one, will they let you, how does this work, how have you as Iranian nuclear scientist suddenly become super duper best friends with the worlds leaders.


2. In February, we make all efforts to create the environment to stop the production of arms across the world, through release of technologies, which makes the present advance aircraft, missiles, and nuclear weapons irrelevant and ancient.

Making efforts is done by 100.000ths of people, and I agree, it starts with an effort, but will this particular effort, and technologies that make all other weapons obsolete just me to me at least, an upgrade of killing technologies, so instead of ****ty ones, we now get better ones to do the exact same job, but better, or, are the new technologies impossible to weaponise? What the hell does the above mean exactly? Ah I see, you will attempt to create the ENVIRONMENT to make this work, with who exactly, any big names and organizations who already said they will do some serious business with you.


3. In June, we will deliver technologies, which can deliver sustenance’s to world population totally free of any cost through the release of new systems that can change air into sustainable food and energy supply without a need for farming land that no child will sleep with hunger.

That would make Jesus and Buddha proud, will it leave us and the flora and fauna on land as well in the ocean any air to breathe and/or will this push everyone back into the cities and will the land be confiscated, how about minerals, we need a lot more then three that plants use, so, what does he mean by food, what is that going to look like, how does it work, is this technology and the infrastructure already in place, to whom will you deliver these technologies, what will be the composition of the foods, will you mail everyone in the world a package with a machine that produces food, who will build this technology for you, any contracts been signed and with whom, this is even blurrier then the average Bigfoot picture. More actual info and less blank statements please mr Keshe, I need more info, we need more info, the world needs more info, so far I have not heard of any massive infrastructure put in place to make this all happen. You better inform UPS, DHL and the postal service they will be damn busy in June then, do they have the trucks and sorting centres in place to handle this, how can we tell good news is on the way, help me out here a bit man.


. By September, we will deliver the technology for every man to be protected from the natural elements like cold and rain without being dependent on other man handout of tents.

A spinning wheel, pants and ponchos? To whom will this technology be delivered exactly, is the infrastructure in place, in co operation with who and or what organizations will this be accomplished.


We shall make delivery of clean water at any point on earth free of charge a reality by releasing the already developed technologies.

The world is full of water already, mostly salt water, desalination, we know how to do this, its no secret, its the initial investments and control of the supply and demand chain that prevents delivery in the current model, what makes you think it will be free, will it be delivered door to door, how will this work, by already developed technologies seems a little vague to me, where did you get the trillions from to build all of this and the above and make it happen in a years time ( that's virtually overnight). Will you draw the moisture out of the air, we can do that already, if we start doing that all 7 billion of us, I bet we walk around with a cottonmouth all day, we need moisture in the air, not to mention the soil and plants, come on tell us, whats the secret, I want to believe you, make me do so, please, please please.


5. By the end of December we will make sure, that there are no grounds for disruption for space travels on regular bases from all the nations on this planet that all shall harvest the reaches of the universe collectively and equally.


Dude, please, come on man, why? Lets make this sh!t work here on Earth first eh, before we mess up anything else, imo opinion we don't deserve to be out there if we cant even get ourselves straightened out first ON planet, let alone OFF planet. If we don't manage to straighten ourselves out first we have no business being out there, they whoever they may who is already out there will hate our guts and send us right back where we came from ( if we are lucky that is)


Those who have doubts about our work, be ready to become soldiers of the peace and unity before the end of this year.

Srsly???? The infrastructure and increase in jobs I do not see are probably very bad omens of the reality of your promises, don't become a Fulford, please just don't .

[Billy]

All i can say at this point is.

Logic will get you from A-B. Imagination will take you everywhere.
Albert Einstein.

Keshe is not being logical. but has a creative imagination. Nothing wrong with that. All the best manifesting what you imagine you can create Mr. Keshe.
peace.

[jmag0904]

I want to believe Keshe has something of substance, and he might, but all he seems to do is make intermittent proclamations and nothing else. Even Sterling Allan, who is more sympathetic to unverified claims than others, was critical of his most recent antigravity demonstration (handful of months ago) which was likely a byproduct of artifact and showmanship rather than new science. Keshe promises too much and delivers too little. I am not holding my breath.

Compare his commercial work to Rossi for example. While the E-Cat development has not been as fast as some had hoped, it appears credible to most people who look closely at it, and there have at least been two prolonged tests of his technology by qualified academic physicists. There is currently a 3rd long-term test going on by Cherokee Inc, Rossi's U.S. distribution partner, and is currently being marketed toward China as we speak. Obviously LENR won't give us antigravity, but first we need to solve our energy issues before antigravity becomes practical/useful to mankind.

[MargueriteBee]

I suspect some folks will ramp up fear, etc. to sell their products????

[jmag0904]

I suspect some folks will ramp up fear, etc. to sell their products????

I think that is a given. That reminds me of a energizer battery commercial I saw a few years ago. The basic message was: "Buy Energizer, or your kid will be abducted." I wish I could find a link to it, it was absurd to an extreme. To a lesser degree you could say that almost all mindless consumerism is based on fear. For example, advertisers leverage our pack animal mentality and the fear of "being left behind" all the time. All we have to do is buy whatever trendy piece of garbage is being advertised at any given moment = happiness and status.

[Sunny-side-up]

Thank you Jean-Luc for your link:


Direct absorption of carbon dioxide CO2 and methane CH4 gases
from the environment and their conversion into nano solution
and nano solid matters and production of energy and
oxygen by the use of nano compound at ambient
temperature and pressure
By M.T. Keshe
12
, nuclear engineer.
© 2000-2009 M T Keshe, all rights reserved, Patents pending
Direct absorption of carbon dioxide CO2 and methane CH4 gases
from the environment and their conversion into nano solution
and nano solid matters and production of energy and
oxygen by the use of nano compound at ambient
temperature and pressure
By M.T. Keshe
12
, nuclear engineer.
© 2000-2009 M T Keshe, all rights reserved, Patents pending
January 5, 2010 http://www.keshefoundation.com/pdfs/CO2_paper.pdf



Below extract taken from page 29


This simple system can be used not only to clean up the environment from CO2, but at
the same time the same CO2 can be used in conjunction with specific matters of the
system, to release energy, oxygen. Further at the same time producing CH3 and
methane and formic acid and by use of nitrogen this leading to production of
protein(s) that can be the food supply for the humans’ passengers of spacecrafts of the
future while they inhale oxygen and exhale CO2.

Thus through this new technology mans’ existence on board of the spacecrafts of the
future, the man becomes the container and supplier of carbon dioxide and hence the
provider of oxygen for his own existence.

Thus, man himself becomes the conversion system to maintain his own survival in
deep space or on earth during shortages of food or natural disasters.
The above extract implies in a personal form, a 'Life Support Suite' giving not only Air but Water, Food and Power to it's wearer!

I wish I was in a position to help bring this in to reality of our now sad world!


Keshe promises all the ingredients of a future.

Let him be true! Bring it on!

[TargeT]

Quite a program! It has been announced time and again in the past, but never with such a precise and short term tight schedule.

You and I, and the rest of the world have every reason to be skeptical or even sarcastic about such wild promises.

Still, how about keeping an open mind and a very close watch?




1. We shall put an end first and foremost to the problem at Fukushima in January.

2. In February, we make all efforts to create the environment to stop the production of arms across the world, through release of technologies, which makes the present advance aircraft, missiles, and nuclear weapons irrelevant and ancient.

3. In June, we will deliver technologies, which can deliver sustenance’s to world population totally free of any cost through the release of new systems that can change air into sustainable food and energy supply without a need for farming land that no child will sleep with hunger.

4. By September, we will deliver the technology for every man to be protected from the natural elements like cold and rain without being dependent on other man handout of tents.

We shall make delivery of clean water at any point on earth free of charge a reality by releasing the already developed technologies.

5. By the end of December we will make sure, that there are no grounds for disruption for space travels on regular bases from all the nations on this planet that all shall harvest the reaches of the universe collectively and equally.

Those who have doubts about our work, be ready to become soldiers of the peace and unity before the end of this year.

Source: http://forum.keshefoundation.org/for...r-the-humanity


June AND September have passed.

Take note ladies and gentile men, there are markers here that you can apply to future "promises" and be more able to discern.

[Nick Matkin]

Not another free-energy hoax, surely... ;)

Nick