Protected Knowledge

[Fred Steeves]

We are at one of those crossroads in the grand cycle of "time", where even the hoarded ancient texts laying in the Vatican vault, looted from around the world, are going to quickly become irrelevent. I do think there are indeed true keepers, or maybe more appropriately referred to as guardians of our true knowledge and history, walking this planet, right now. They are themselves ancient, have been patiently waiting, and they are also nodding in agreement that the time has now come to once again allow this knowledge be set loose for a time.

There is a difference between hidden, and protected. This knowledge has been truly protected. The knowing of who and what we are is being released now, to any and all who have a mind to see it at this "time". Nothing can stop it, save for an individual's perception. It's steadily circulating through the aether, no more need for cloak and dagger games.

So there, I said it.:cool:

Cheers,
Fred

[Kano]

We are at one of those crossroads in the grand cycle of "time", where even the hoarded ancient texts laying in the Vatican vault, looted from around the world, are going to quickly become irrelevent. I do think there are indeed true keepers, or maybe more appropriately referred to as guardians of our true knowledge and history, walking this planet, right now. They are themselves ancient, have been patiently waiting, and they are also nodding in agreement that the time has now come to once again allow this knowledge be set loose for a time.

There is a difference between hidden, and protected. This knowledge has been truly protected. The knowing of who and what we are is being released now, to any and all who have a mind to see it at this "time". Nothing can stop it, save for an individual's perception. It's steadily circulating through the aether, no more need for cloak and dagger games.

So there, I said it.:cool:

Cheers,
Fred

I agree, the knowledge does need to be shared with the world. It's time to create a holographic society. We can handle it! These keepers that you speak of reminded me of a thread Bright Garlick started a while back about the 7 chosen ones. I would have posted the link but it looks like all of BG's contributions to that thread have been deleted. Those who followed that thread will remember what I mean.

[Cartomancer]

I have had similar thoughts. I wonder if the computer revolution is part of what you are saying?

[donk]

Nothing can stop it, save for an individual's perception.

AAAARGH!!! I feel like i know what you're gonna say, but I'll ask anyway: How does an individual consciously open themself up to this perception??

[Fred Steeves]

I have had similar thoughts. I wonder if the computer revolution is part of what you are saying?

Interesting you say that Cartomancer, as I think it all, every bit of "it", goes back to Universal Law. It can never be broken, but it does allow for vast explorations of the perimeters. Once those "explorations" get to a certain threshold, the window of that opportunity begins to close. We are now well underway in that process.

Computers, NSA surveilance, the jet stream, or crickets chirping in the evening. Everything in Creation is now tending back towards rebalancing. The great in breath so to speak. I know many can feel it. That asshole neighbor we all have for example, might just wind up performing a great service. Watch for it. Maybe even expect it.

The time for learning is basically over, and we're now into the time of remembrance. Hey, it's bloody good to see you all again! http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif

[sirdipswitch]

What good would all of those books of ancient knowledge do, for one, if that one cannot see the absolute power, of that which is right before their eyes?

[Fred Steeves]

Nothing can stop it, save for an individual's perception.

AAAARGH!!! I feel like i know what you're gonna say, but I'll ask anyway: How does an individual consciously open themself up to this perception??

You know donk, that's a damn good question brother. The only thing I know is very basic, and way too boring for a book. Put that strong intent/command out to the Universe, trust it's done, and go about being yourself.

Oh, and hang on...http://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif

[WhiteFeather]

Yep Fred I Think We Are Headed full steam towards The Singularity,,,,,,,,,,, if you will. And Some Insights By The Legend IMO. Terrence Mckenna. As he speaks about the epic transition we face in the very near future called the Singularity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8v8mgwuubU

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Thanks for this Fred. This definitely resonates with my thought (or rather hope). I find myself constantly wondering about transition, a shift into a new reality when the Truth can finally be told. I do so hope this is in our future.

But as long as those 'in power' are still in power and control the information, this revelation of knowledge will unfortunately not have its desired impact.

[Fred Steeves]

But as long as those 'in power' are still in power and control the information, this revelation of knowledge will unfortunately not have its desired impact.

Well Star Mariner, this is just the way I personally see it, and no more. Those "in power", will always be in power, in this their own little realm. Their own little box. Every so often though, we who are under their 'care', are presented with the opportunity to answer this very simple question: "Do you still wish for this to continue?"

Our deeply rooted answer may surprise us, and we are firmly in charge of this deal.

[WhiteFeather]

Terrence Mckenna's Time Wave Zero Has Some Thoughts As Is Of Your Thoughts As Well Fred.
We are on the brink of possibilities that will make us literally unrecognizable to ourselves and those possibilities will be realized, not in the next thousand years but in the next 20 years because the acceleration of invention and novelty and information transfer is at this point so rapid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03U8QqMLELk

[Fred Steeves]

Hey WhiteFeather, straight up man. Terrence lost me maybe a year or so ago, the moment I watched him tout the idea of integrating technology with consciousness. I can't think of anything I feel more strongly about, than technology is merely an aid along the way in us regaining our full consciousness, not a part of the solution.

The Etch A Sketch I used to love as a young child aided greatly in learning to make manifest pictures from the mind, and it was a great tool for it's 'time', but I no longer need it. Ya with me?

Cheers,
Fred

[deridan]

donk part of your answer is in star mariners picture

how, why. i'd start with a basic intuition that all of us are disseminators of some key knowledge (that is all really all, cause one day inevitably u come to the goal of u or 'ur higher self more eventually')..cause all presided once somewhere.

but the relation u assume to ur own knowledg is very much upto the zodiac sign u occupy.
i.e. i have a certain rotation, which i c is very much determined by star-signedness, that others may misinterprete (an outer), while misintrepreting themselves too.

this world is built on the knowledge we've lost, and to fully steer ourselves into new unknown shapes, we need to again regrasp those hiddens

[Reaver]

We are at one of those crossroads in the grand cycle of "time", where even the hoarded ancient texts laying in the Vatican vault, looted from around the world, are going to quickly become irrelevent. I do think there are indeed true keepers, or maybe more appropriately referred to as guardians of our true knowledge and history, walking this planet, right now. They are themselves ancient, have been patiently waiting, and they are also nodding in agreement that the time has now come to once again allow this knowledge be set loose for a time.
A nice idea, I'll admit that much... but how do you reach that conclusion? what elements/ideas/events/people have you observed that suggest to you that there are indeed people guarding "true knowledge" and perhaps more importantly, why do you think that this knowledge is being released at this particular point in history?


There is a difference between hidden, and protected. This knowledge has been truly protected. The knowing of who and what we are is being released now, to any and all who have a mind to see it at this "time". Nothing can stop it, save for an individual's perception. It's steadily circulating through the aether, no more need for cloak and dagger games.
I thought knowing who and what "we" are was an individual task, not a collective one. Nothing can stop it? has the power structure been wiped out all of a sudden? what about human ignorance or to be more precise, humanity's "love" for ignorance? Then you claim that such knowledge is circulating through the eather... as far as I "know", the eather can be perceived after unlocking certain dormant capabilities... so I ask you, can you see this eather so you can reach the conclusion that this protected Knowledge is navigating the eather?

[humanalien]

I'm willing to bet that the vatican that among all the hidden
away biblical text that they have, i bet they also have hidden
text about using the black magics.

I've probably told this story before but a couple of years ago,
i was reading something about the vatican, where some guy
was meeting a deacon or some other higher up person. The
guy was told to wait in a hallway that had a lot of ceiling to floor
paintings in frames, mounted on the walls.

It was taking a long time for the deacon to show up, so the guy
started checking out the paintings. One one of the paintings, he
put both his hands on either side of the frame to get a better look
at a painting and all of a sudden, the wall painting turned out to
be a door. Curiosity got the better of him, so he looked inside. He
noticed a set of stairs leading downward, so he followed them down
to the landing.

To his surprize, he saw a bunch of people, surrounding a stone table,
on which a very young girl layed there naked. He realized that he was
witnessing a satanic offering/ killing, so he left the vatican.

I can't prove this story is true but i thought i would put it out there.

[Jules]

Some Insights By The Legend IMO. Terrence Mckenna. As he speaks about the epic transition we face in the very near future called the Singularity.

I saw a Terrance Mckenna video of Garden of Eden in my angst of finding more info on what's going on. Very long audio, but insight into what he is about, he wanted to use substances not for intoxication, but altered state of mind for insight and visions, but sometimes both occur at the same time. He felt that if Indians or humans, as such did not participate in mushrooms or vision plants, they would not expand beyond monkeys or neanderthals, thus feeling gratefulness for this drug, however a price, such as brain cells or something unexplained. He saw elves, and asked what they liked with his request, and he saw grey matter. He said, no that's not interesting. What if it were brain material? Terrance was definitely interesting, like Carlos Casanova, but only a tool to see part of a bigger picture.

[Tony]

Wisdom has to be protected, as it can be abused. It is sort of self secret, the ignorant will not notice it, but the seeker 'will' find it.
There are indeed knowledge holders.


Tony

[Sirius White]

And these people, are also not even necessarily part of any official earthly organization, and/or literally holding it in any kind of way.

We carry it within our cellular memories, in our photonic field, and yes, within our very essence as a soul, as a frequency that integrates into our being as knowledge expands and becomes our reality. We carry it, and we dispense, where we sit fit- to who needs it at the time. Online or offline. I choose not the road of fame or glory, if there is a time where I must be in front of many it will be for the right reasons- and at the right time. For now, these knowledge keepers are everywhere.

We understand this knowledge is not ours, but everyones birthright. And so, we do this for the collective- without fanfare. We put the pieces together ourselves. No need to join secret societiy, or access a library. The library is literally not just within is, but all around us. We are MADE UP of it. We work as normal folk, as ordinary (even though, have a very difficult time living life this way) in order so, the energy spreads there, and so does the knowledge get dispensed if and when it is needed.

For me, it just happens. I meet someone, at a bar, at a party, on a bus, on the street. Once the window is open for this type of conversation (whether on spiritual, conspiracy related, both or something else altogether) it flows until the cup is filled. Then that person empties it and if some benefit comes from it great, if not, then great as well.

I have been fortunate to also meet, knowledge holders..who are my elders. And whom I consider to be family. They are absolutely incredible people.....and yet seek no fame and no glory. This has been a great example, and inspiration for me. It gives me a perspective on my own future.

Yet I feel, in the future I may work a little bit out more in public as well. But the REAL work IMO, happens in private :)

Take care.

[lookbeyond]

Are you able to share a little more Sirius?

Kind Reguards lookbeyond

[Fred Steeves]

A nice idea, I'll admit that much... but how do you reach that conclusion? what elements/ideas/events/people have you observed that suggest to you that there are indeed people guarding "true knowledge" and perhaps more importantly, why do you think that this knowledge is being released at this particular point in history?


Hi Reaver. I've reached this conclusion the same way I know I'm getting gray hairs now on top of my head. I just started noticing they were there one day. http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif As for why it's being released now? Universal cycles, no different than our daily cycles. When the alarm clock goes off in the morning, it's time to get up. Or turn the alarm off, always our choice.





I thought knowing who and what "we" are was an individual task, not a collective one. Nothing can stop it? has the power structure been wiped out all of a sudden? what about human ignorance or to be more precise, humanity's "love" for ignorance?

Yes, knowing who and what we are is the ultimate individual task. I've all but shed the idea of a mass awakening. Also, the power structure has no say in this. Thery're irrelevent, and deep down they know this.

Cheers Mate,
Fred

[PurpleLama]

Here is something I posted a while back, that speaks somewhat to this topic:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=364867&viewfull=1#post364867

[Maunagarjana]

I hope so. We need all the help we can get.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Yet I feel, in the future I may work a little bit out more in public as well. But the REAL work IMO, happens in private :)

Take care.

I'm with you Sirius my friend, but it is a constant struggle to actually reach people. I have met many as well, dropping little slices of truth-reality at their feet (spiritual and otherwise). Some look down and take notice, others turn away because – and this is the sad part – so many are quite comfortable living in ignorance, and in lives void of any greater meaning than materialism and the mundane drudgery of their routines.

But what can we do? Not a lot, just move on, and hope one day (and one day soon) they will grow aware of the imprisonment to which they bind themselves, and finally look for a way out.


Well Star Mariner, this is just the way I personally see it, and no more. Those "in power", will always be in power, in this their own little realm. Their own little box. Every so often though, we who are under their 'care', are presented with the opportunity to answer this very simple question: "Do you still wish for this to continue?"

Our deeply rooted answer may surprise us, and we are firmly in charge of this deal.

Very true, I guess I’m just a little anxious to actually see the changes to this paradigm materialize, so we can get on with the important work that needs to be done!

[donk]

yup, I knew it...more cryptic sh!t.

deridan - I'm a libra (b-day was mon the 24th), can you send some knowledge about what that may mean?


For me, it just happens.
Yes, knowing who and what we are is the ultimate individual task.

These things aren't protected. I totally resonate with the surface of what Sirius says--though I (like lookbeyond) wanna know the deeper stuff.

Same with the knowledge Fred is dropping--everything you said is spot on, I want to hear what you are hinting at, what's below the surface--protected?

[NancyV]

We are at one of those crossroads in the grand cycle of "time", where even the hoarded ancient texts laying in the Vatican vault, looted from around the world, are going to quickly become irrelevent. I do think there are indeed true keepers, or maybe more appropriately referred to as guardians of our true knowledge and history, walking this planet, right now. They are themselves ancient, have been patiently waiting, and they are also nodding in agreement that the time has now come to once again allow this knowledge be set loose for a time.

There is a difference between hidden, and protected. This knowledge has been truly protected. The knowing of who and what we are is being released now, to any and all who have a mind to see it at this "time". Nothing can stop it, save for an individual's perception. It's steadily circulating through the aether, no more need for cloak and dagger games.

So there, I said it.:cool:

Cheers,
Fred
I think I've posted this in the last year or so but I can't find it now. I'll say it again, as much as I can remember, since it relates to this thread.

My husband, Mikal, told me about a favor he did for Simon Wiesenthal, the famous Nazi hunter, when he was living in Germany in the mid to late 70's. He used to go visit Simon's information center in Austria and had become friends with him and told him a little about his life as a black ops counter terrorist type guy. One time when Mikal was visiting Simon, he asked Mikal if he would be willing to help out some people who needed something important done. Mikal said he was willing to meet with them to see what they wanted. Simon told Mikal these people were a small group of men who were the "Wisdom Keepers" and their life long mission was that they were keepers of ancient hidden knowledge.

So Mikal met with either 2 or 3 of these men, along with Simon, and they told him what they wanted him to do. Apparently a couple of trunks of books, scrolls and manuscripts had been stolen by a group that was attempting to destroy their group. Also several of their wisdom keepers group had been killed. The wisdom keepers knew that these men were in two separate hotels at the time and that they still had their stolen goods with them. They wanted Mikal to go get everything and bring it back to them. He said, "sure, no problem". (of course he was an arrogant as*hole at the time and didn't think anything or anyone could stop him) LOL...

I won't go into a lot of gory detail but he found the leaders rooms, killed the leaders (in self defense, of course), brought in suitcases, loaded up the books, scrolls, etc. into the suitcases and left the 2 leaders of the groups inside the trunks for the other men to find when they returned to the hotel rooms. He had waited until all the men were gone except the two leaders. This took a couple of days because he had to wait until the other men left and then had to do what had to be done. He described some of the scrolls and manuscripts to me and they seemed to be from VERY ancient to more recent ancient.

He then drove back to Simon's center in Austria and left the suitcases with Simon and went home. A day or so later Simon called him and asked him to come back. So he went. Simon handed him a briefcase which had half a million dollars in it and expressed the gratitude of the wisdom keepers. Mikal gave the money back to Simon and told him "I didn't do it for money, you keep it". So he gave it to Simon to help in his search for Nazi's that had escaped.

I can't remember if the thieves were in Austria or Germany although he told me in great detail what happened. I wrote it down a couple of days later so I wouldn't forget but then my computer crashed and I lost it. So this is just from memory and I can't ask him again because he will refuse to talk about it. I have to get him late at night in a trance like state where he starts remembering things when I ask the right questions, which doesn't happen often. But he has told me that even after all the stories I've weaseled out of him, I haven't even heard HALF of them! LOL...

I thought this was an interesting story and whether it's true or not, we'll never know. Only Mikal knows, but when I've been successful in getting him to repeat something, the details never change and he's always somewhat emotionally affected as though he is reliving something, not making it up.

I'm guessing these "wisdom keepers" may have been Jews, but that just seems logical since they knew Simon Wiesenthal so well. The Vatican obviously doesn't have all ancient texts and scrolls and is not the only group dedicated to preserving certain knowledge.

[donk]

wow, wild story NancyV, makes me recall Frank Herbert's Dune saga, which takes place 10k years or more in the future...a small band of Jews keep the knowledge in that one too, if i remember correctly. I know they were featured and I found it odd, but I haven't read to the 5-6th book or whatever it was in a decade or so...

[PurpleLama]

Dune borrows heavily from all three Abrahamic religions, actually.

[donk]

Yeah, but the Jews were still a separate group, protectors of ancient knowledge. I know there is heavy references to all of them in all of Herbert's work, but Nancy's post reminded me of the NO-rooms/no-ships and the wee reference in one of the later books in the saga...

[Reaver]

Fred, I wrote that last reply of mine because you just wrote your conclusions. Now that's fine and probably many would agree with you in this particular case, but what interests me more than your conclusions (right or wrong) is the process that you go through to reach such conclusions. The why and the how.

See I agree with many of TPTB general ideas: erradicate poverty, eliminate borders, take care of the environment, etc. In all likehood they conclude that the result would be a better society and I may agree with that... but it is when I look at how they reach such conclusions and why they do it that I deem them pathological.

A christian may envision a world of high moral values and I agree with the general idea, but then I get to know his/her thought process to find out that the method which is proposed is highly pathological. Things like bowing down to a psychopathic god, things like the repression of sexuality.

Now I'm not saying you are proposing pathological ideas, but since you really don't shed light on your thought process, then the readers are missing the essence of your conclusions.

[Fred Steeves]

Nancy, thank you very much for re-writing Mikal's experience for us, I apparently missed it the first time around. It certainly has relevence to this thread, and I appreciate the first hand account. You know what my first comment to my wife was after I had her read it too? "You could easily base a movie on THAT story!"

Cheers,
Fred

[noxon medem]

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- The time is Now
Like it has Allways been

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[Eram]

Ehh NancV?,

If this story is true, which I'm perfectly willing to accept... isn't it a little dangerous to write it down on a forum like this, for everyone to see?
I can imagine that certain people still hold a grudge even if this took place some 35/40 years ago.

It's a story fit for a movie indeed, but I would not be so eager to put it out for the public in this case.

[Buck]

donk part of your answer is in star mariners picture

how, why. i'd start with a basic intuition that all of us are disseminators of some key knowledge (that is all really all, cause one day inevitably u come to the goal of u or 'ur higher self more eventually')..cause all presided once somewhere.

but the relation u assume to ur own knowledg is very much upto the zodiac sign u occupy.
i.e. i have a certain rotation, which i c is very much determined by star-signedness, that others may misinterprete (an outer), while misintrepreting themselves too.



Deridan you nailed it for me with this post of yours thank you

Fred, I do want to share and I am intrigued with this topic but I am wondering if you would be up for trying an experiment. I have discovered that there is a side door to the temple, so to speak, that has always been accessible. Gaining entry is the easy part, but once inside the darkened theater, it is challenging to tell real from illusion. In here, the only effective light is our own discernment that illuminates the path.

We might get all sidetracked and end up in some dead end of self induced delusion, or -
we might, if we pay attention to the possibilities, learn to read each other and strengthen our resonance as a team.

Lets play a game, shall we?
Lets make up stories- one person writes a bit, then the next one who feels like it jumps in and jots down a few paragraphs.

I'll go first :

- To the seven who read this and understand my words, to the seven who see the image I state and know it as their own, hear this and remember;

On that fateful day, so long ago, we stood in a circle, close enough to see each other's faces, to raise an arm and place it on one another's shoulder. Close enough to smell the sweat, to see the steam rising off our bodies. Small concentrated spots of brilliant sunlight from the forest canopy four hundred feet above played like a constellation of stars dancing across clearing where we stood. The sunlight brought a playful irreverent whimsy to the otherwise grim assembly of bloodied etheric warriors.

It was the memory of the quiet lull, that came back to me as I read Deridan's post. And the moment I connected with the feeling of that stillness, I saw you Deridan. I looked in your eyes, I saw my friend, and I looked around and saw each of you, bloodied, yet unbroken, centering and grounded- all of us, entraining to the ascension frequency. And all the while the the see-sawing gentle swaying motion of the spots of light covered our faces, making a loving, playful mockery of our grim proceedings.

It was as if even in these last few minutes before we were to die a horrible and violent death, the universe was reminding us we were, after all, at play.

Fred you were the one who made the crack about it looking like a scene out of Saturday night fever with the disco ball lighting. I remember how good it felt to laugh, tears streaming down my face at that perfect irreverence. I also remember how powerful the shift was that resulted from that lightness. In the last moments of our physical existence, as the enemy had already identified our position, locked the coordinates and even as we laughed our doom was rocketing towards us at over 1500 feet per second. I FELT the assembly point of our team shift, as we all connected with the simple pleasure of laughter.

In an instant, faster than I can say the words, we aligned, the homing signal linked, and at the very instant the forest erupted in a tremendous fireball of shrapnel and bits and pieces of us,

we were gone.

The next thing I remember was all of us jumbled in a heap in the landing bay aboard the mother ship, laughing out of the sheer joy, and relief. We were on our way home, of course. :)

And Fred, last thing- for some reason I remember giving you a five dollar bill. Something about a standing bet. You tend to gloat, I don't forget that either.

I think if all this sounds about right, it would be your turn to owe me, brother :)

[NancyV]

Ehh NancV?,

If this story is true, which I'm perfectly willing to accept... isn't it a little dangerous to write it down on a forum like this, for everyone to see?
I can imagine that certain people still hold a grudge even if this took place some 35/40 years ago.

It's a story fit for a movie indeed, but I would not be so eager to put it out for the public in this case.
Well....he's 58 now but I would pity anyone who came after him even at his advanced age! LOL.... They sent a couple of guys to check up on him when we lived in Vegas, but he informed them that it would be a good decision for their continued health to leave immediately...and they did. They haven't bothered him since then which was 2001.

This is many years later and he would probably tell anyone who asked, if he bothered talking to them at all, that his wife has a big imagination and lies a lot. LOL... I would agree with him and say I'm an aspiring fiction writer or a pathological liar. The story about the wisdom keepers was just a tiny blip in a life filled with many much more exciting adventures.

[DeDukshyn]

No need to look further than Toltec teachings. Passed by word of mouth for hundreds- even thousands of years, wisdom of the true nature of things. I'm specifically thinking about don Miguel Ruiz and how his Shaman grandfather had told him that now is the time, and Miguel turning his grandfather's teachings into books that have been helping dissolve the illusions for a few years now.

This decade is one of revealing that which has been hidden -- this year in particular, and the next few to come ;)

[Fred Steeves]

Fred, I do want to share and I am intrigued with this topic but I am wondering if you would be up for trying an experiment. I have discovered that there is a side door to the temple, so to speak, that has always been accessible. Gaining entry is the easy part, but once inside the darkened theater, it is challenging to tell real from illusion. In here, the only effective light is our own discernment that illuminates the path.


Hey there Buck. Successfully navigating the darkened temple, is the same practice as in the time where "enemies" of the state were made a public spectacle, just as in Rome, by being forced to navigate a mine field. Much money changes hands in betting how far any given individual will make it before...Well you know. The 'game' was that anyone who could make it through was being smiled upon by the gods, therefore being declared innocent, and set free. Note that no one has ever made it.

One day a small group of students long on the lamb for being associated with a forbidden teacher, who had been tortured and put to death, were finally caught and brought in. With the summer solstice coming soon, and therefore the biggest game of the year, they were saved in anticipation of drawing a record smashing attendance.

With the air crackling with excitement and anticipation, the prisoners were led to the plaing field, and shown where freedom lay. For this special event however, there would be an added surprise. Each was blindfolded, with the grand announcement that if there were any truth to the forbidded teachings they had followed, this shouldn't be a problem.

By the time the prisoners had steadily zig zagged their way half way across, the rumble of the crowd was easing. By the time they were 3/4 of the way, there was not a sound, save for the flags flapping in the warm summer breeze. As they were easing across the freedom line, one by one, crowd had forgotten to care about the money they had lost, or the obvious embarrassment of their illustrious emperor. A chant broke out. Barely audible at first, and finally a deafening roar. "let them go, let them go, LET THEM GO! LET THEM GO!

As the last one crossed over from no man's land, emperor, thoroughly humiliated, gave the signal with a nod of his head. Still blindfolded, and before anyone realized what had happened, 6 heads and 6 bodies lay on the ground.

The games were never to be held again, and just 2 years later, the emperor's own head was to separate from it's body. Done so by the person who had started the chant on that summer's day.




Fred, I wrote that last reply of mine because you just wrote your conclusions. Now that's fine and probably many would agree with you in this particular case, but what interests me more than your conclusions (right or wrong) is the process that you go through to reach such conclusions. The why and the how.

See I agree with many of TPTB general ideas: erradicate poverty, eliminate borders, take care of the environment, etc. In all likehood they conclude that the result would be a better society and I may agree with that... but it is when I look at how they reach such conclusions and why they do it that I deem them pathological.

A christian may envision a world of high moral values and I agree with the general idea, but then I get to know his/her thought process to find out that the method which is proposed is highly pathological. Things like bowing down to a psychopathic god, things like the repression of sexuality.

Now I'm not saying you are proposing pathological ideas, but since you really don't shed light on your thought process, then the readers are missing the essence of your conclusions.

Heya Reaver. I explained the "process", it's just not the intellectually debatable one that you're looking for. I appreciate that you aren't saying I'm proposing pathological ideas, that's very kind. http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif As it is, I'm just here sharing bits of my journey, like everyone else. People are free to come on in this little room and be a part of it, or not. We're just people talking, nothing more, nothing less.

This is what I would invite you to do Reaver, if you really have this grave concern. Pull out your copy of the Kybalion, study the footnotes of Hermes Trismegistus, and create a thread based on his research materials, sources, reasonings, and personal failures and successes. I think that would be most interesting, and you are just the researcher to do it.

Cheers,
Fred

[Playdo of Ataraxas]

Dune borrows heavily from all three Abrahamic religions, actually.

The Yahwisms, as Farrell terms it. For protected knowledge, it can't be repeated enough, read Joseph Farrell, or listen to his interviews, primarily with George Ann Hughes of the Byte Show. He's not the one and only but a great source to access.

In terms of knowledge that is protected, some, not all, information remains obvious and unprotected, or "hidden" out in the open. A couple reasons, in my opinion, why this accessible information is not well known or popularized is due to the apathy of a large amount of people who are not willing to put forth the effort or the societal risk of thinking differently than peers, or they are not interested in anything but sporting events and reality shows. This shows a lack of curiosity and concern for others. The other reason is the media, but I don't need to go there. That drum has been beaten loudly before.

In just the past year, I can remark that I have had many conversations with acquaintances, coworkers, and family members who are waking up and noticing the, up to this point, unseen knowledge before them. For some of these people, it has intiated a search down the rabbit hole for the data that is protected and unseen. It has been quite rewarding to act as a catalyst for those seeking to learn more about the true history of mankind, and its future.

[Sirius White]

The only thing that annoys me is that many of the knowledge dispensers get an ego boost from mass attention from people. As a young man, it is difficult for me to even get in a bit of information to people like this, across because by nature of their "status" assume they automatically have the authority. I have on occasion, met people who have been researching this stuff all their life, and sometimes I tend to overwhelm them with what comes through me. On occasion, from this I've gotten kind of a bitterness. Which is why I've learned humility and respect is very important. Might sound cheesy but I respect my elders because without them I would not be arriving where I am arriving today. I have nothing but mutual respect for people on the path of truth.

I'm just not a big fan of the circuit, you know when knowledge becomes proprietary and everyone is fighting for the spotlight?

There is absolutely no hidden knowledge to one who has opened the faculties to perceive it directly.

[Fred Steeves]

Hi Sirius White, sounds like you are learning the fine art of patience at a young age, outstanding! Many never learn it at all. It was a 17 year old kid several years ago, a neighbor named Manny, who was trying to tell me one day that the war on terror was a farce, and that we did it to ourselves, what we all know as false flag. He showed a lot of due patience himself, probably because I'm so much older, as I explained to him how ridiculous that was, and how we should be thankful that George Bush was the President to lead us through this. http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/doh.gif

He also went on to describe how he was extremely interested in discovering our history on this planet. He was talking Ancient Aliens type history, and even prior to that. In my ignorance I condescendingly tried to explain to him that we can never know this, so why even try.

You know, even though everything he said fell on deaf ears at the time, for whatever reason it stuck with me, and played a role in my early awakenings a couple of years later. When my own questions about things finally started bubbling to the surface, I thought back to what Manny was trying to tell me that day, and figured it was worth my peace of mind to atleast do a little bit of my own research, and debunk it all, once and for all.

Well, not too long after my failed debunking expedition left my jaw hanging in utter shock, I saw Manny again, as he was now out and living on his own. I thanked him for what he had done that day, and apologized for dismissing him. Later, right around the time I joined this forum, I saw him again at a party, and made a point of thanking him yet one more time.

Keep doing what you're doing brother, and work that patience muscle. You never know what ripple effect you may be having, even well down the road.

Cheers,
Fred

[Buck]

The only thing that annoys me is that many of the knowledge dispensers get an ego boost from mass attention from people. As a young man, it is difficult for me to even get in a bit of information to people like this, across because by nature of their "status" assume they automatically have the authority. I have on occasion, met people who have been researching this stuff all their life, and sometimes I tend to overwhelm them with what comes through me. On occasion, from this I've gotten kind of a bitterness. Which is why I've learned humility and respect is very important. Might sound cheesy but I respect my elders because without them I would not be arriving where I am arriving today. I have nothing but mutual respect for people on the path of truth.

I'm just not a big fan of the circuit, you know when knowledge becomes proprietary and everyone is fighting for the spotlight?

There is absolutely no hidden knowledge to one who has opened the faculties to perceive it directly.

Shooting from the hip here Sirius, take this as an exercise in sharpening our communication skills, if nothing else- your description belies effort being expended to orbit another entity. Release that ambition, you are ten thousand times more capable than the ego self you co-mingling with.. Dedicate your intention, relentlessly, to love, to service. Yes you have a lot to offer, yes you are not seen. No one is, if we are doing the work. We have to stay undercover, we are not here to aggrandize or to draw attention. That is a distraction, a HUGE distraction. When it happens, and it will, you are under test, under load as the electricians say. stay connected, stay focused on your intention and ride out the turbulence. Some among us are here deliberately to run cover for the rest, so be careful to lose sight that we all serve, in a variety of ways. When you get lost (and you will), be relentless, and re- draw your intent. We are forever in the debt of those who draw the heat away from us.. I know many and have known many of these entities, er people. They work they do is brutally hard. Yes, it is hard to be famous, or a guru, a figurehead, an actor leader of any kind- to be the lightning rod. If you are doing this from a place of conscious intention, it is a sobering exercise to walk out of the house every morning. Imagine Lincoln on his way to the theater that fateful night, or Kennedy in Dallas at the airport, shaking hands with LBJ, and the moment you shake the monster's hand, you know that today is the day you die.

So when you feel anger, and resentment over the imperfect ones, the poseurs, the con men and the shysters- remember we all serve in our own unique way. Even the buffoons and fools are critical to the process. It's amazing how self righteous indignation can promote spiritual evolution just a effectively as a gentle masage. If that aspect of energy was more understood, murder would lose its attraction for some. Be like Arjuna, be impeccable in what you DO. Question not the why, the ego cannot follow along, it's like a PC trying to keep up with a quantum processor- it's not just a speed test, they are totally different paradigms.

We do the work. Fill you heart with gratitude every day that you have the opportunity to be of service. The door will open the moment, the instant you ask.
Knowledge is proprietary, in the sense that it comes from source, and it is encoded holographically, just as all sentient forms are. We say it any which way, from the more folksy "something smells fishy to me" to the technocrat "there is no validation, its reading as a false positive- the link is dead." Point is, you will know, if your sensory equipment is switched on, that is.

[Buck]

Fred I am laughing, I have to sign off and get some sleep but I was thinking of you as I wrote this, I knew you were here. I was saying to myself I wish I could connect to the be light and profound, like Fred is, now that his in his mastery. Saying it with a smile, but Im not joking. Keep on keeping on, you are shining.
I really appreciate it by the way- your story is dead on for me. I have a few things I want to share, a lot actually, so dont presume silence means no resonance. But you know that already. Btw are you familiar bardic tradition- specifically - The Battle of the Trees ? very apprapo.-

oh and I could have said all I said in one anectdote- the story of the barking dog meditation. You know that one I bet :)
cheers

[noxon medem]

&
since all is (should be) out in the open .

- here a note on the Virgin Birth :


To Be

- Born from a Virgin . ...
( Immaculate conception )
&
a suggested interpretation:

She is a virgin on the time of their intercourse
that impregnates her with a baby .

- The virgin birth , perhaps
( there (here) are probably many examples ..).

..
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[Sirius White]

Thanks Fred :) But it's moments like that, that keep us going !

I was around 15 or so living in Texas at the time when the WTC and IRaq stuff happened. I was telling people the same thing that the kid was around that time, even though I lived in an area full of supporters. And yea I've had the same thing said to me about aliens etc. The thing is- humans CAN know, we CAN handle the truth, and it is right here right now influencing us directly :) But even I was stubborn too, I used to say similar things because it all sounded so "ridiculous" and new agey. So I used to kind of not necessarily try and debunk, but "over-rationalize" it like others do. But upon the awakenings, and contact with things that cannot be explained...interdimensional, entities, psychotronics etc. I realized that the truth was far stranger than any fiction I could ever conjure in my brain! We all go through our process and we all assist one another. To me, we are all in this boat together- and ANY kind of awakening on any level, by anyone is a beautiful thing. It is what I work towards, and what gives me hope.

Thank you Buck. I no longer feel any anger or resentment. I am now patient, and astutely listening/watching. And yes buck, I am learning and dedicating myself to service. In fact, I have already dedicated myself to the service of others. If I was doing something that was saving millions of lives, while struggling with my ego to want to tell others- I do it for them, and without the fanfare OR ego. Regardless, thanks for the comments and advice :)

[Rocky_Shorz]

SAN DIEGO (CNS) - Nearly 1,000 fusion researchers from 45 countries are expected to discuss the latest advances in fusion energy at the Hilton San Diego Bayfront Monday as the 24th International Atomic Energy Agency Fusion Energy Conference gets under way.

The conference aims to "provide a forum for the discussion of key physics and technology issues as well as innovative concepts of direct relevance to fusion as a source of nuclear energy," according to the event's website... Link (http://www.cbs8.com/story/19763475/fusion-energy-conference-kicks-off-in-downtown)

eyes open around this conference...

false flag target with flashing red lights --- pick me pick me...

cold fusion, Thorium reactors are the solution to power needs and ends creating of Hell's Weapons...

gas war attack on California...

careful everyone...

[13th Warrior]

&
since all is (should be) out in the open .

- here a note on the Virgin Birth :


To Be

- Born from a Virgin . ...
( Immaculate conception )
&
a suggested interpretation:

She is a virgin on the time of their intercourse
that impregnates her with a baby .

- The virgin birth , perhaps
( there (here) are probably many examples ..).

..
-

Holy synchronicity! I just read in a book about Captain Morgan the privateer/pirate that the concept of the immaculate conception wasn't adopted by the Catholic Church until 1854.

[bluestflame]

cos essence speaks, with greater clarity, than the written, or even spoken word

[GrnEggsNHam]

wow, wild story NancyV, makes me recall Frank Herbert's Dune saga, which takes place 10k years or more in the future...a small band of Jews keep the knowledge in that one too, if i remember correctly. I know they were featured and I found it odd, but I haven't read to the 5-6th book or whatever it was in a decade or so...

Believe it or not those books resonated with me on a very intimate level. The Dune series especially but also the Foundation series unlocked some dormant desires. Which propelled me on this truth/knowledge seeking time period of my life. The Mission Earth series was enjoyable as a comedy and may have helped in some way shape or form. Ender's Game is another good one and relatively short if you don't like reading novels much.

Not directed at Donk, just throwing my thoughts out there.

[Fred Steeves]

cos essence speaks, with greater clarity, than the written, or even spoken word

Hi bluestflame. By "cos", are you saying Church Of Scientology?

Thanks,
Fred

[bluestflame]

am saying cos, as a phonetic spelling of a shortening of the word "because"

[noxon medem]

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Another one from quotet archives :


The deciples saw Jesus "walking on the water"
- Maybe ,
He was riding on the back of two dolphins ?
( easy , if you know how to ..).

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