Robert Morningsky-Meeting with Star Elders.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Facinating story of what happened to the beings from the crashed craft at 'Roswell' and much more!!!

Watch all 14 parts...

ROBERT MORNING SKY

Robert Morning Sky is a native American Indian with a interesting story, this story is supposedly the hidden history of Earth and man. Robert has connected Babylonian and Greek mythological legend to extraterrestrial intervention that is still part of our planet today. I met Robert after his presentation at a UFO convention few years ago. His presentation was very entertaining he danced in full Native American Indian headdress as he told us a story. His composure was light and funny but not diluting the seriousness of his story.

What he told us about a personal experience of his Grandfather. The story begins when his Grandfather went on a vision quest with five other men. One night a streak of light crossed the horizon hitting the ground and releasing a large flash. Baffled by this the men decided to investigate. What they discovered and found out wilder than most sci-fi novels. Robert has self published 2 books called Terra I and Terra II. Which he claims is the hidden history of Earth American Indian leaders do not want Robert to speak of this incident publicly. Oddly enough and there seem to be other forces with the same idea. Since Robert has released his books and gone out on the lecture circuit he has had threats and one attempt on his life, Why?

On August 13, 1947 in the New Mexico Desert, little more than a month after the infamous Roswell New Mexico UFO crash incident. Six young men including Roberts grandfather that evening witness a streak of light come from the sky and a large flash at its impact. The men decided to investigate and discovered the wreckage of twisted metal and charred desert brush. Within the wreckage they found a silvery unconscious alien being injured but alive. The youths decided to take the being back to there their camp before the military would inevitably arrive. They spent a long time nursing their visitor back to health, which they named 'Star Elder'. Using soups and fruits they eventually revived the being. The being came to trust the men and using a small crystal the being began to communicate. The being let the men know that what he was about to tell them would hurt their pride.

According to Robert the being pointed out that their involvement with Earth was not always benevolent. And that man has been guided and misled, and they have been our gods and our devils. The being said there was a war in the skies above and enemy forces had downed his ship. The being claimed that a galactic war of conquest rages over our heads wherein Earth and man is the prize.

He said they call our galaxy Eridanus and claimed that kingdoms have risen and fallen here. Series of wars have engulfed the galaxy civilizations have prospered and fallen, no single empire has endured for long. There is a group of intergalactic conquerors who took over a crucial star lane. This passageway being a main thoroughfare for intergalactic travelers. As this regime concord new star systems, their power grew and heavy tolls and embargoes were charged to all who passed. The weapons used were described as light beam (laser) and sound waves powerful enough to disintegrate solid objects. This sound wave technology is also used to transport objects from one place to another. Part of their fleet included giant space crafts, these are planet size globes with full armaments much like the Death Star from star wars. Coincidentally this giant craft brought death and destruction everywhere it went.

Within Eridanus new solar system was being formed and the potential for untapped precious ores started a colonization effort. Independent settlements on many moons began thriving. Facilities to extract ores were constructed. The task of transforming the atmosphere to a more suitable environment was a tedious one. The production of heavy metals and the abundance of gold made the new solar system indispensable.

There was a short war and the original settlers were wiped out. Robert refers this battle to an ancient legend written on Babylonian clay tablet which describes a battle in the skies. It describes a battle in which a prince defeats a king and before the battle is over the prince bites the kings genitals. This I hope is symbolic for the kings sake.

The conquering regime began developing and building on new planets in this solar system
. A genesis scientific center was built on one of the planets and terraforming efforts began with atmospheric conditioning to help reduce the poisonous levels of nitrogen in the air. And the release of carefully engineered plants and animals in to the environment. The most significant project undertaken by the regime at the center was the creation of hybrid creatures. The hybrids created here would forever change the things to come.

According to the story the hybrids were created in secrete at the center but the word got out that something significance had been created. These hybrids were created and bred for use in the labor fields. These creatures were strong and intelligence. The regime decided to breed these beasts to use. Careful planning and precise breeding schedules permitted certain beasts to mate, but only under the strictest supervision. It was part of the charter of how they would allow the creation and usage of these new animals. The creator of these beasts had his own ideas. And he secretly began his own alternative training program. Part of this program was to let them experience the pleasure of unsupervised sex, letting the beasts react from basic instincts and engage in the pleasure of intimacy. Soon the beasts behavior began to change, a disregard of established commands became clear. Any and all renegade creatures were severally punished and instantly thrown out into the wild. A new rule was imposed that every beast must attend an obedience lesson every seventh period. Strangely enough that sounds like our concept of Sabbath.

The beasts creator went on journeys locating pockets of rejected beasts in the wild. He helped them learn to speak and taught them how to use fire, build shelter and make clothing. In time several beasts exhibited exceptional ability to learn. The genetic manipulation had purposely limited the beast to minimal communication and understanding. This was done in order to keep the beasts docile and servile. The beasts in the wild, with uncontrolled sexual activity grew quickly in number. A couple of scientists from the center who we not supposed to have any contact with the beasts would go out into the wild and help the beasts develop a sense of belonging to a family, and a sense of shaping and choosing their own destiny.

These beasts gained their independence and eventually became semi integrated back into the system, but were on a clearly different path than their environmentally controlled kin. Their kin from the controlled environment became valuable creatures and were used on many other planets in the administration of small kingdoms. They became part of an interplanetary chess game and the beasts learned about war.

A underground rebel group of reptilian beings overthrew the regime forcing them out of the solar system. The genesis scientist left taking many of his followers and some of the beasts with him to the Pleaides star system. Once the takeover was complete the reptoids using mind altering techniques ordered the systematic alteration of the remaining beasts minds reprogramming them to hide to recollection of the takeover. The reptoids constructed huge towers which transmitted a cloud of electronic signals designed to keep the beasts in a fogged and docile state. Sounds much like the proven results that (ELF) extremely low frequency exhibit. The beasts continued every seventh day visits for obedience lessons. Doctrines which would support the new empire became dogma.

We are these beasts! Robert believes we have been deceived for the last at least four thousand years. The reptilians are still here, Native American who know of them call them 'CHET-C' Lizard Men. Emerging from their lairs to torment and use humans for their own agendas. Abductees also speak of reptoid type aliens in their experiences.

This is a very rough summary of Roberts Morning Sky's Terra Papers. The details of the story he tells are quite astounding. Intergalactic monarchies and how the forces of greed, manipulation and vengeance are very much like our own. Our micro cosmic society is a reflection of the macro cosmic universe. One of Roberts closing remarks was "So long as man seeks salvation 'out there' he paves the way for beings vying to become his overlords.

14 parts...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YU0fUs_ocw

viking

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Thanks so much Viking. Its an awesome and very interesting story. Hurritt :)

[Eric J (Viking)]

Yes Hurrit ... I do recommend you listen to all 14 parts ... facinating!!

quote...
"No creature/animal will develope an extra leg or organ if it does not use it. If it does then the extra limb or organ would die away or fall off, atrophy. A major organ must be used. How is it possible that we only use 10% of our brain. 90% is unused. Someone has severed our memory chords and we have been re-programmed."

Is this proof that our DNA has been tampered with????

Anyway these are the 'Terra Papers'
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16267603/The-Terra-Papers-by-Robert-Morning-Sky

viking

[tron]

thanks viking!
on to the studies!:nerd:
http://experienceyork.apps01.yorku.ca/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/crazy-professor.jpg
He talks about the alien autopsy video being a "socorro crash" victim.
Its interesting to compare this info with the pictures and video put up on the Roswell crash anniversary post. (mainly comparing the leg damage being the same)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3707-Possible-original-photo-of-the-Roswell-craft&highlight=roswell

If this info is true:
could it be that when these craft went down back then the pilots would get the same leg damage? :nerd:
Just one more bit of something to chew on.

[Eric J (Viking)]

You are funny Tron...LOL

This is the second series of this facinating story of the 'Star Elders'

13 parts...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiwY-s8CQYU

viking

[tron]

listening to second one now,
gnostic in nature.
Ive heard this theory before and this material gives me a more detailed view.

here are some images that interest me on this subject.
http://www.artunframed.com/images/artmis10/goes77.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_O0ch3ABb3L4/S8SYFp56m0I/AAAAAAAABIw/9FCeD5xnOnY/s1600/France_Paris_Notre-Dame-Adam_and_Eve.jpg
interesting one..
http://www.truthbook.com/images/site_images/Johann_Ramboux_Adam_and_Eve_after_Expulsion_from_Eden_400.jpg
this as well..
http://lucysfur.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/adam-neve.jpg

[MariaDine]

........GOD ! We are really, really old !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Old souls and with this eck of amnesia :(........
Atlantian hybrid experiments..........Well, some of us are...........I mean... were....
Thanks for posting this piece of info.......it explained something an Aura reader said to me , years ago..................«! love it when «things» come toguether!» :) - George Pepard catch phrase in the A-TEAM serie.

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

RMS is one cool groover.

Nb0SOzYeRzs

If you had teachers that taught like this back in the day when I was being "educated" - there would have been students fighting to be in the room to learn!

He rocks! Lately though he seems cautious - and holding back. I'm speculating it has something to do with threats about speaking about what he knows...

Actually why don't Bill and Kerry get this guy in a 4 hour interview! That would be a blast!:cool:

[MariaDine]

Hello, TRON ! :)

I have something for you........a Portuguese painting from the 15 Century , by a portuguese painter Grão-Vasco .It depicts S.John and the calice of Knowlege.

http://www.livrariasantiago.com/images/graovasco.jpg

[MariaDine]

John, brother of James and son of Zebedee, is thought to be the disciple "whom Jesus loved". While this disciple was not actually named in the Scriptures, many biblical scholars think this was true. Jesus did entrust his mother, Mary, to John at the foot of the cross. John's shield contains a chalice and serpent; since legend states the when John was given a cup of poisoned wine to drink, he made the sign of a cross over the chalice and the poison became a serpent and crawled out. Tradition has it that John lived many years and escaped a martyr's death.

[Arpheus]

Wow i just finished watching this whole series and i cant believe i never heard of him before,i liked it a lot and it makes a lot of sense the stuff he speaks of.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Yes interesting stuff... The plot thickens !!! Cant remember which segment of the vids...but he mentions the 'coming' of a being in 2011!!! Did he mean the second coming or the fake one??

viking

[Eric J (Viking)]

A couple of more in depth videos on this site...

Go to part 2 ... Part 1 is more of the same as the previous that I have posted...

http://thelastoutpost.com/our-legacy/robert-morning-sky-.html


viking

[Eric J (Viking)]

I hadn't realized that Mel had interviewed this guy!!!

Thanks Mel ... 22 parts jeeeeze!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imEicMP69Uo

viking

[tron]

look at tiny little morning sky up there.
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0509/images/pyramids.jpg

http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0509/images/rms.jpg

[Arpheus]

Thanks a bunch viking this man is extraordinary ,the veritas interview is awesome,and the fact that some of his stuff got stolen his website taken down and life threats occurred during his life,to me it just proves he is legit and he speaks from knowledgeable sources.Some of the stuff he knows is just mind blowing to me,and it resonates a lot with many things i always intuitively thought were true,i wasnt that far off and now i know i am not crazy LOL.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hey Tron great pictures... awesome!!! Wish I had done that when I was there!!! only managed about 30 feet!! Amazing structures...

Yes Arpheus ... I totally agree with you ...looks like Mel has been a busy bee... found these latest ones here ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mV1M6sNdJE

Hey Bill, if you are still here...this chap deserves your interviewng skills...

viking

[tron]

I didn't know they let just anyone go to the top of the great pyramid;)
so much morning sky!
I'm hearing this guy in my sleep..:clock:
On to the next video!
(i think its the same as the last video posted):madgrin:

Thank you viking.

[Operator]

Cant remember which segment of the vids...but he mentions the 'coming' of a being in 2011!!! Did he mean the second coming or the fake one??

I listened to Alex Collier yesterday too ... synchronicity of info seems to 'feed' me ... end of 2010: fake invasion ... 2011: revelation of the real extra terrestrial/dimensional beings.
I used the word 'feed' intentional ;) There is need to stay alert and skeptical ... do not bluntly 'believe' ...

[Snowbird]

This past week I spent most of my free time listening to the first, 1996 audio series...all 27 sections. It appears as though I will be spending even more time listening to the Veritas audios.

Robert Morningsky is, IMO, legitimate and an awesome researcher into truth that has been covered over purposely for thousands upon thousands of years. I have known within for a long time that the powers that be (tptb) could not possibly be the ONLY source of what is and has been happening. When you stop and think about how a few earthly groups globally could manipulate this entire globe simultaneously, you can't but come to a conclusion that this magnitude of manipulation, has to stem from off-earth. Its too huge.

I agree with what Robert Morningsky teaches. The Trading Post on his web page is down for remodeling. I want his books. Now, on to Veritas.........

Thanks Viking!! :victory:

[rhythm]

hey Viing GOOD find my friend :ranger:
tho i have only listend to the first
vid ..... im interested ... so far im
gettin the vibe , i be back when i
heard the rest ... nice one
love and kindness :nod:
http://i.bnet.com/blogs/question.jpg
question everything;)

[morguana]

i agree rhythm, interesting find viking :hug:
looks like another load of vids to watch, have only watched first one so far, think that when
kids go back to school i will have lots to catch up on.
blessings to you
m

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hey thanks Rythm and Mogs ... yes Morningsky has a very good energy about him...I do urge all to listen and watch the Videos...great stuff...

Just started reading the 'The lost book of Enki'

This ones for you 2!!! ha ha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAQSZhazYk8

I do see here that we are all slowly connection the pieces together...

viking

[Virma De Ris]

There's more info (documents and interviews) here:

http://www.jrgenius.com/important%20files%20to%20download/Robert%20Morning%20Sky/

:)

[MariaDine]

The true secret of the Templars is not what people think. Some templars actually preserved what is call, in India tradition, the «Golden Thread» . Passed on from «Teacher» to pupil. Knowlegde for kundalini awakening that permits astral travel, 3 vision and a few other capacities or habilities. They, the real templars still exist and they are here. «Many are called, few are chosen». Even if you now know what the secret is, still the personal path must be done alone.
Love
MD

[wynderer]

i find his work/teachings very interesting -- but -- this may sound small & picky but it is on my mind -- i am white, but have in the past spent a lot of time w/members of different tribes, including living in one of the clan houses of an Alaskan tribe -- & all the Indians [aka Original Peoples ] i know have a way of talking very different from that of whites -- as if the words come from deeper in the belly [best way i can describe it ] -- this goes for men & women , those who left the rez & got a white man's education, & those who did not -- even if it's just a shadow of that way of talking, it's always there -- but i don't hear this in Robert MorningSky's speech

like i said, this may sound small & picky, but it does puzzle me

[RedeZra]

all the Indians [aka Original Peoples ] i know have a way of talking very different from that of whites -- as if the words come from deeper in the belly [best way i can describe it ] -- this goes for men & women , those who left the rez & got a white man's education, & those who did not -- even if it's just a shadow of that way of talking, it's always there -- but i don't hear this in Robert MorningSky's speech


nice observation

why is it always me that have to spoil the sensationalism

investigate

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here is a website with Native people that are sick and tired of these plastic shamans and their lies

http://www.newagefraud.org/about.html

look around

[Eric J (Viking)]

It really doesn't matter who you put on the stage ... we will always find some flaws in them...regardless...!!

Intuition is a wonderfull thing as long as we know how to use it...

Morningsky is the first to admit he doesn't hold all the pieces...

Thanks Verma...good link...

viking

[MariaDine]

«MORE WOOD TO THE FIRE » ......LOL :)

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Extraterrestrial contact with Earth's indigenous peoples reveal Western societally repressed knowledge

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/03/16/01406.html

Guardians of the Past -- Harbingers of the future

by Julie Gillentine


Canada's Assembly of First Nations National Grand Chief Phil Fontaine.


Anthropological orthodoxy insists that civilization began in Sumeria six thousand years ago, and the modern metropolis is the pinnacle of culture and evolution on the planet. But, circa World War II, humanity shattered the rails of our technological playpen, sporting new atomic bombs. And, it is said, Space-faring ETs took notice, and silver saucers suddenly filled the skies. The UFO era was born; Roswell was a defining moment.

An alternate view is emerging, however. According to indigenous peoples from the Americas to South Africa, they have guarded the hidden history of humanity all along, quietly maintaining contact with visiting and resident stellar relatives. Mobilized, now, by what they believe is the fulfillment of long-prophesied warnings, the elders of these indigenous people around the world have begun, they say, to break vows of silence and share their ancient secret stellar wisdom.

African Epiphany

Thanks to the work of Robert Temple, in his book entitled The Sirius Mystery, the startling knowledge of Sirius and its dwarf companion by Africa's Dogon tribe is widely known. The Dogon possess knowledge, such as the star system's orbital periods and the companion star's invisibility, which cannot be confirmed by naked eye observation, and which modern Astronomers have learned only relatively recently.


Zulu woman from South Africa.


In South Africa, Vusamazulu Credo Mutwa, a renowned Zulu elder and author of Song of the Stars: The Lore of a Zulu Shaman, claims that, in terms of knowledge of African shamans, this is but the tip of the astronomical iceberg. Credo Mutwa has chosen a path of 'openness', coming forward to share secret star lore of indigenous Black Africans. "I pray that this effort will unite thinking people around the world and diminish the severity of our prophecies," Credo explained recently. A master storyteller, he has traveled to more than twenty countries sharing his vision and wisdom despite the great personal loss which his openness has cost him. Credo's son was brutally murdered, apparently, by those who want him silenced.

Indigenous cosmology of stellar relationships is complex, he explains, often dwelling at the heart of sacred ceremony. Rich oral traditions, including protocol for contact and how to distinguish friendly off-earth visitors from those who are potentially harmful, have been handed down from one sangoma, (shaman) to the next for thousands of years. Star lore is an essential component of sangoma training.

According to Credo Mutwa, "In every language in Africa, the meaning of star is Bringer of knowledge? or Bringer of enlightenment." Elder Credo Mutwa has traveled the continent of Africa, sculpting haunting images of visitors from the stars, which were described to him by other African shamans. "These beings have been coming and going to Africa for forty thousand years," he says. Some bear striking resemblance to beings reported by modern experience's of the UFO phenomenon.

Cradled in South Africa's Krueger National Park lies a private game reserve called Timbavati. This emerald jewel of the African bush is almost mythical in reputation. White lions are born in here, it is said. "A long story is told about a chieftainess called Numbi," Elder Credo recounts. "Many generations ago, she and her people saw a burning white light like a star fall out of the sky right where Timbavati is today.

The story is that it was not a star; it was a shining ball of metal, brighter than the Sun. When this ball came down to the ground, Queen Numbi, who was a sick old woman at that time, went towards the light and was swallowed by the light. In that light, very faintly seen, were strange beings with very large heads. These beings received Numbi into the light, and for some hours she was inside. When she emerged and walked toward her people; she had become much younger than when she had gone into the light.

"After that star fell, stayed on the ground for some days, and then rose back into the sky, strange things started happening there. Cattle with two heads were born repeatedly. Lions, leopards and even impalas with snow white fur and green eyes were born, until to this very day. This story is one of the most amazing in Africa. Even to this day, white animals are still being born in Timbavati. Some years ago, a snow white elephant with beautiful blue eyes and long tusks used to roam the area, until white adventurers shot it.

"When a tribe of invaders appeared at Timbavati many years after Numbi's experience," Credo said, "they brought sacred stones which had been taken from Zimbabwe, and planted these stones there in honour of that place. Timbavati, which is Zulu for 'the falling down of a star'? is one of the holiest places in South Africa . But now its story is lost and has been overshadowed by a lot of nonsense."

The standing stones of Timbavati, brought from Zimbabwe to honour Numbi's visitors, are reminiscent of megalithic sites around the world and give mute testimony to the antiquity of the place. Most of the stones now lie on the ground, overgrown by the grasses of the African bush, but the outline of a large circle is suggested. This writer stood on the spot at March Equinox sunrise--the beginning of autumn in the Southern Hemisphere--and the alignment of certain stones which remain erect pointed to the eastern horizon.

The standing stones have a resonant quality when struck with a smaller stone, similar to the deep, bell like resonance of certain Egyptian monoliths. Adjacent to Timbavati is an enigmatic place known as Manyeleti, which means, "Gateway to the Stars." A community of thirty shamans lives there because they believe Manyeleti binds heaven and Earth.

In his book, Credo Mutwa relates a prophetic vision of four great leaders emerging around the world: red, black, white and yellow. The colours are the same as the Lakota Medicine Wheel, mentioned below, and four races of humanity. "These leaders will work to unite the planet," Elder Credo says. "One of these, a female leader, will arise in America. She will be called the Red Savior, because of the fiery color of her hair." Native Americans, such as the Lakota Sioux, have an expression, "Mitakuye Oyasin," which means "All our relations." Four-leggeds, winged ones, crawling ones, plant and stone nations are greeted as relatives. The Lakota Medicine Wheel is composed of red, black, white and yellow, representing four races of humanity. Within Native American cosmogony, it is natural to include and respect the Star Nations among extended family members.

Standing Elk, Dakota Elder and Sun Dance chief, recently presented an open letter to the Elders of Turtle Island. "My heart told me to speak of the secret knowledge of Native Americans concerning the Star Nations, since the time of our prophecies is at hand." Believing the knowledge belongs to the world, Standing Elk has created Star Knowledge Gatherings, a forum to share this information. Sharing such secrets is controversial and unpopular with some native peoples. Standing Elk, like his African counterpart, has received numerous threats.

At Standing Elk's gatherings, Native Elders share the conference podium with prestigious researchers in the UFO field. "Alien" contactees speak openly of their experiences. Indigenous Elders perform ceremony and give candid testimony of their knowledge and relationship to the Star Nations

Humanity as seeded from the stars


Do Extraterrestrials Exist? is a book for further reading on this subject.


"Humanity was seeded from the stars, and we have a profound genetic kinship with humanity's stellar brethren," Rod Skenedore, a native elder, who told an audience of hundreds in Las Cruces, New Mexico.

At the same Star Knowledge Gathering, Quiche Mayan Elder, Grandmother Windrider, talked of her visions and her challenging personal path. "I challenge conscious people to stand together in peace and tolerance to make a difference at this time on Earth," Windrider said.

Mayan Calendar Connection

From Central America, Guatemalan Mayan Elder, don Alejandro, speaks of vast and repetitive cycles of time. "The Mayan calendar never has to be altered, because it is based on the stars," he points out. Our unwieldy western counterpart, on the other hand, has been changed many times and is still not very accurate. "This knowledge was bequeathed to the Mayas by the Abuelos, the grandfathers, who came from the stars," Don Alejandro said. He enigmatically links the origin and destiny of the Mayas with the Pleiades, who he says, were called May. According to the work of archeoastronomer Anthony Aveni, certain Mayan sites appear to be aligned with zenith rising of the Pleiades. One of the named stars in the constellation of the Pleiades, The Seven Sisters, is Maia.

December 21, 2012, will be the end of the current Mayan long count. According to scholars, this Great Cycle began August 11, 3114 BC. In Mayan terms this time period equals thirteen baktuns. In the Gregorian lexicon, this equals 5125 years. Five Great Cycles, or suns, equals 25,625 years, which is amazingly close to what modern astronomers count as one cycle of the precession of the equinoxes, 25,920 years. Mayan day-keepers say we are living in the time of the fifth sun, approaching the end of a major cycle. Mayan prophecies also point to this time as filled with earth changes and transformation.

On December 21, 2012, winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere, a significant astronomical event will occur. From the vantage point of Earth, looking through the constellation of Sagittarius toward the center of our Milky Way galaxy, our Sun will align the Galactic Centre. This close conjunction occurs only during a specific epoch each twenty-six thousand years. In his book Maya Cosmogenesis, John Major Jenkins likens the four quarters of the processional cycle to seasons of a grand year. He believes this juncture is the completion of one full cycle, described and monitored by the sophisticated Mayan calendar.

Prophets and Seers

Ancient prophets and modern seers seem to speak with one voice and see with a single eye. The Bible, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, Hindu texts and Hopi prophecies predicted this time on earth would be marked by miracles and cataclysm, the storm before a long-prophesied golden age.

Credo Mutwa told me, "Anyone who investigates will come upon this amazing fact. In South America, in Brazil, in Peru and in Bolivia, different Native American tribes are expecting a worldwide cataclysm in this coming century. They have been expecting this cataclysm for centuries, and they knew it would occur very early in this coming century."

If numerous traditions concur that we are poised at the culmination of their prophecies, how did they know the specific time frame thousands of years ago? If the triggering event of global cataclysm is an external object like a comet, with a cyclical orbital period, its return would be predictable and monitoring the movements in the sky would be vital. The last such juncture seems to have occurred roughly thirteen thousand years ago, halfway through this large cycle and resulting, it would seem, in the last ice age.



Assembly of First Nations logo.


Pieces of this puzzle continue to move into position. Investigators increasingly believe that our history, and that of our progenitors, has been recorded in legend, myth and star lore. William Sullivan's ground breaking work with the Incas, (Secret of the Incas), decoded myths as astronomical metaphor. Robert Bauval and Graham Hancock have shown that megalithic monuments contain critical stellar alignments, and, when understood, convey messages and timing significance. Physical evidence of earlier life experiences may have been left on Mars, as Richard Hoagland and others suggest.

Other forgotten civilizations, perhaps several, may have preceded us -- their life cycles and attainments terminated by cataclysmic events which also destroyed the evidence. Humanity's true origins and history may have been bequeathed to us through the metaphorical oral traditions of Earth's indigenous peoples and a world wide web of stone. Sherlock Holmes asserted that the best place to hide something is in plain sight. It appears that once we have decoded these Rosetta Stones of the stars, our place in the interplanetary scheme may become more clear. When we remember the code and decipher the messages, the truth may be obvious.

[onawah]

nice observation

why is it always me that have to spoil the sensationalism

investigate

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here is a website with Native people that are sick and tired of these plastic shamans and their lies

http://www.newagefraud.org/about.html

look around

Don't waste your time. That site is almost completely empty and very much "under construction".
Thanks MariaDine. That's what I'm talking about!

[RedeZra]

Don't waste your time. That site is almost completely empty and very much "under construction".


there is a forum there

if you search Robert Morning Sky then you will see what the Natives say about him


I'm not trying to spoil your fantasies here or perhaps I am


there is an enormous problem with people posing as Natives or spokespersons of the Natives


take a look here

http://www.esowatch.com/en/index.php?title=Hopi_and_Pseudo_Hopi_Prophecies


Thus any outsider claiming to represent the Hopi, or claiming to be teaching Hopi traditions or expounding on Hopi prophecy is either engaged in deception or fraud, or deluded. Several outsiders claiming to be Hopi spokesmen actually suffer from mental illness.



you are not helping the Natives nor the Truth by promoting and entertaining imposters

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http://www.nytimes.com/1999/02/15/us/thomas-banyacya-89-teller-of-hopi-prophecy-to-world.html


Mr Thomas Banyacya spent half a century on a tireless and often thankless Hopi spiritual mission

Hopi religious leaders, alarmed by reports of the atomic bomb's mushroom cloud, which they saw as the destructive ''gourd of ashes'' foretold in the prophecies, appointed Mr. Banyacya and three others as messengers to reveal and interpret the prophecies to the outside world.



The Hopi Message

http://www.welcomehome.org/rainbow/prophecy/hopi.html

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it is interesting to notice that the Hopi message speak of 3 past world cataclysmic events

the 1st by flood the 2nd by ice and the 3rd by flood again


also there was a warning in the Hopi prophecy to guard the power beneath the four corners earth

that power was uranium

[Arpheus]

Ha miriam delicado is on that list of the fakes LOL,go figure heh?

[RedeZra]

Ha miriam delicado is on that list of the fakes LOL,go figure heh?

hehe now you can giggle every time she opens her mouth lol

because you know she is kinda far out

[onawah]

there is a forum there
if you search Robert Morning Sky then you will see what the Natives say about him
I'm not trying to spoil your fantasies here or perhaps I am
there is an enormous problem with people posing as Natives or spokespersons of the Natives
take a look here

http://www.esowatch.com/en/index.php?title=Hopi_and_Pseudo_Hopi_Prophecies

you are not helping the Natives nor the Truth by promoting and entertaining imposters

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/02/15/us/thomas-banyacya-89-teller-of-hopi-prophecy-to-world.html

The Hopi Message

http://www.welcomehome.org/rainbow/prophecy/hopi.html

a [/I]

It's really not that simple, which is why on this forum, members must develop their own discernment and not take anyone's word for anything.
For example, there is no way of knowing if the people posting on the forum you name are "real" Native Americans.

Or if the Hopis who claim that Banyacya is the Hopis only true spokesperson are correct in their assessment.

And just because someone has some or has all Native American blood or for that matter, doesn't have any Native American blood does not mean that they know the Truth, or some part of the Truth, or none of the Truth. Blood doesn't really have that much to do with knowing Truth.

Their is disagreement among members of the same tribes, among members of different tribes, among North and South American Natives, among indigenous peoples all over the world.

There really aren't any easy answers.

And I don't think you, RezeDra, are serving anyone by posing as some kind of expert or as a guiding light for anyone but yourself.

[onawah]

There was something that R. Morningsky said that bothered me--I think it was on the Veritas link.

He said something to the effect that he wants to view himself as a being from the Stars (even as an Orion, even though he names Orion as the origin of the negative Reptilians--there are also positive Reptilians, as I understand it, but that's another matter.

He calls the Earth-indigenous beings who were genetically engineered by the ETs (and he is talking mostly about the Annunaki as those engineers, and as being very much influenced by the negative Reptilians, I believe) "beasts", and presumably he is talking about primates descended from the apes. He says that originally those "beasts" had no souls, but they gradually developed them.

This jumped out at me because personally, I think that animals often display higher states of Being than some of the negatively oriented ETs I have heard described. Furthermore, I don't see why being partially descended from primates would be something to reject. I often prefer the company of animals to human beings, in fact! Animals often display a great deal more common sense, love and deeper perception than some humans do.

It seemed like an odd thing for a Native American to say, as the true indigenous teachings have great reverence for animals, and do not regard them as having no souls.


Also, as I understand it, there have been other advanced races here from places other than Orion and Sirius, and the DNA of today's human race has components of these other ET races as well. And possibly some of those beastly bodies were actually harboring ET souls who entered those bodies to help foil the controller plans of the Reptilian/Annunaki from the beginning, by raising the consciousness of the primates and mutating the genes. There are other explanations for the evolvement of the hybrids besides Enki's influence.

And Morningsky lumps many descriptive terms into one term --ET--which does not really take into account the differences between beings from other dimensions who may have also played a part in Earth history, as opposed to ETs on the material planes who have taken less subtle roles in our planet's development.

I think it very misleading when this kind of oversimplification become so prevalent. It has a way of reducing the truly sacred and divine into something mundane and impotent.

While it is a mistake to buy into the dogma of the Church, which makes the divine seem to be something beyond human scope, there is a tendency on the opposite side to reduce everything to 3D explanations of how the advanced technologies and supernormal powers of the ETs are the only explanation for our perceptions of the mystery and sacredness of All That Is.

We can dip into all these different realms of intellectual exploration of our history and our future, and it's all good, but what it all boils down to, is that we need the realization of Oneness as a planetary race on Earth, and that is superseding any other priority more and more.

[RedeZra]

And I don't think you, RezeDra, are serving anyone by posing as some kind of expert or as a guiding light for anyone but yourself.

I'm serving Truth

you don't have to Onawah but you are not alone here

here are some honest hearts among you

there are those that can spot an obvious lie


perhaps you only want to rattle your senses with fantastic stories

that is a fine fantasy but it's not the truth

[Operator]

Ha miriam delicado is on that list of the fakes LOL,go figure heh?

Lot of controversy again .... Robert Morningsky calls anything around blue kachina a fake ... which is even in the name of Miriam's website ...

This only proves one thing: be your own leader ... don't follow anything ;)

[Shairia]

I originally posted about Robert on PA 1 over two years ago with no response from anyone;

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_autor_morningsky.htm

His original story resonated with me and I heard he had disappeared for over ten years. Assumptions can be made as to why but honestly everything that has come out since his original revelations has a conditioned spin on it. If you like what he says fine if not don't listen.

[Arpheus]

Lot of controversy again .... Robert Morningsky calls anything around blue kachina a fake ... which is even in the name of Miriam's website ...

This only proves one thing: be your own leader ... don't follow anything ;)

I dont follow nobody,but there are certain things i read watch listen to that resonate with me,and that tells me something,that doesnt mean following things but trusting your instincts following your gut,the problem here is that all these people who speak some of the truth in some way shape or form also have an EGO like everyone of us,and i am sure that EGO sometimes gets in that and toss its own 2 cents to those stories thus making mixing some lies mixed fantasies whatever you want to call it,but there is a little bit of truth everywhere out there,so use your inner senses and if it resonates with you its cool and if it doesnt its also cool,free will is a beautiful thing,its what makes us human within our duality!!

[wynderer]

nice observation

why is it always me that have to spoil the sensationalism

investigate

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here is a website with Native people that are sick and tired of these plastic shamans and their lies

http://www.newagefraud.org/about.html

look around

i did a search on that site, RedeZra -- here's something i found:

educatedindian"
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 22:37:30 -0000
Subject: [nafps_again] Robert Morning Sky, Karen Degenhart, Galaxy's Most Wanted

I can't speak for every band, but I've never heard of anything even remotely similar to the stories of Greys, Greens, lizards out to control mankind, etc, among Mescaleros and Lipans. And "Morning Sky"
is no Apache name. Doesn't sound anything like any Hopi name I've ever heard either.
Some of the other references in his works, Knights Templar, Holy Grail, Illuminati, and the Bilderbergers. This is so obviously just
plain old secular Anglo-American conspiracy theory. Someone would really have to know absolutely nothing about NDNs (or Christian mythology) to believe any of this is authentic.

His claim about an Apache grandfather, that "nickname" doesn't sound right to me, though I'm sure not a fluent speaker. That supposed
regalia sure doesn't look right either. Trust me, Apaches and Hopis sure don't wear huge bulky fur capes and boots!
http://www.newtimes.org/issue/9601/morning.html

This version of his supposed Hopi beliefs sounds like very badly written pop psychology mixed with more conspiracy theory. And come on, he quotes Castaneda and talks about Ten Commandments.
http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/hopigrey.html

Old Bob sells vision quests and has a very goofy Anglo woman who calls herself Thunder Stone Dream Woman as a follower.
http://kronosconcrete.com/ThunderbirdEnterprises/coyote.htm

Works with some other famous frauds like Arguello and "Oshinnah Fastwolf".
http://www.swcp.com/~eltiki/homie_page/articles/prophets.html

And with frauds Franzone, Hunbatz Men, and "Fastwolf" again.
http://www.ufomind.com/misc/1997/sep/d08-004.shtml

Found this message. Do you know this Duran?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ufonet/message/10485
From: "TimeStar" <timestar@t...>
Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 12:01 am
Subject: Re: [UFOnet] Orion Queens & Sirian Wolves vs Earth
Robert Morning Sky has claimed to be half Hopi on numerous occasions.
The Hopi have never heard of him and deny his UFO story. I checked out Morning Sky through The Hopi are a small, closely knit tribe and would know either Robert Morning Sky or his grandfather. I checked out Morning Sky through personal contacts. Morning Sky has refused to reveal the name of his grandfather.

One of the best parts of Morning Sky's story is in an early version of his first manuscript that I purchased in 1994-95. In conclusion of his manuscript, Morning Sky asserted that if his theory was correct that there will be an increase in sightings of flying pigs. This assertion is so mind bogling that it is hard to take seriously, and it's never been clear whether Morning Sky was deliberately hoaxing in the beginning of was just nuts.

Morning Sky was a professional pow wow dancer, which is equivalent to a professional dancer who regularly competes, and has no bearing on
the sacred. Pow wows are social rather than sacred events.

Regards,
Krsanna Duran

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And it seems even UFO researchers find his claims hard to swallow.

http://www.beyondroswell.com/roswell/autopsy_news.html
Moscow based linguistics professor / retired, Boris Chourinov, has come out against the suggested translations of the Alien Autopsy: Debris Hieroglyphs. Chourinov came to the Italian UFO Conference to show Russian radar evidence of some strange lights following commercial aircraft and then speeding off. Away from the podium, Chourinov stated strongly that the translations that Hopi Indian and Human Legacy researcher, Robert Morning Sky and UFO researcher Michael Hesemann have come up with are way off base and have no foundation in the reality of linguistics. I'll have an up date on this very shortly.

[Operator]

I dont follow nobody

Sorry if you took it personally, I only used the words from your post because they referred to Miriam Delicado and I remembered the remark about blue kachina.

"be your own leader ... don't follow anything" was meant for ALL of us ...

[Rimbaud]

I haven't read all the treads here properly as it seems to have descended into a row of sorts right from the start...These are my views for what they're worth, but it seems to me that DNA strands in many life forms seem to be going through a change cycle right now...for example the common fruit fly can complete metamorphism in the space of a few years...What this says about us Humans I can't be sure about. There are still dormant strands within our DNA that aren't understood yet. My views are purely as leyman..I'm no expert..but some of these "changes" make sense to me...I suspect in my psyche that Mother Nature is about to serve us a "Twister!" and we should be ready to embrace the change...I can't be more specific right now..I just feel it.

Love

Rimbaud

[passiglight]

There was me thinking the information robert morning sky was revealing was the thing that first bought us into contact with charles and co,,

I mean sirius is where he's from right ?

I mean like dogs and unicorns is where we're at right ?

Unicorns ?? merlin and co ?? pyramids ??

I mean like the two chambers in the great pyramid,, one pointing to orion and the other pointing to sirius,,well we know that the pharaohs we're all about dogs and we know charles's master was about in those days ??

Come on guys,,, this isn't about the credibility of morning sky it's about sirius,, its about our creator,he came from sirius right ??

cosmic love

[alsiani]

Robert Morning Sky is to me one of the authors i give more credit. He doesn't pretend to be anything but a simple man telling a message. I'm very surprised every time I see people trying to say he is cheating or that he is not who he pretends.
But... do you see Robert Morning Sky getting famous, rich and powerful? He, himself! asked for his book to be taken out of the internet, in late nineties, because he had his life threatened. He disappeared for more than 10 years and appeared again a couple of times in 2008, just to vanish again.
Why do I always see, whenever they write about Robert, people saying he is not ho he pretends to be... come on! With what purpose? What would he be gaining with that? Why?
Whenever someone is working as a disinfo agent or a pure liar, that person keeps in business, doesn't publish his work in the net and then begs for webmasters to take it off just because he was forced to do so. He wouldn't be away, because the guys saying lies are safe.
Do you see what I mean? He really said very important stuff and he was asked to shut his mouth.

[Maia Gabrial]

Hey Viking,
THIS was such an outstanding history lesson! I was glued to it for the entire 14 parts...I'm hoping to share it with as many family and friends who'll open their minds to it....
I especially liked: "Don't go to the light. It's a trap. They'll reprogram you to forget everything....Turn away and find your own light."
Great find. Thank you!
Maia

[learninglight]

Robert Morning Sky is to me one of the authors i give more credit. He doesn't pretend to be anything but a simple man telling a message. I'm very surprised every time I see people trying to say he is cheating or that he is not who he pretends.
But... do you see Robert Morning Sky getting famous, rich and powerful? He, himself! asked for his book to be taken out of the internet, in late nineties, because he had his life threatened. He disappeared for more than 10 years and appeared again a couple of times in 2008, just to vanish again.
Why do I always see, whenever they write about Robert, people saying he is not ho he pretends to be... come on! With what purpose? What would he be gaining with that? Why?
Whenever someone is working as a disinfo agent or a pure liar, that person keeps in business, doesn't publish his work in the net and then begs for webmasters to take it off just because he was forced to do so. He wouldn't be away, because the guys saying lies are safe.
Do you see what I mean? He really said very important stuff and he was asked to shut his mouth.

Completely agree....listened to him a long time ago and went off and did some nosing about... no matter what i see read or find somehow i'm always pulled back to what he says... makes a lot of sence to me
Some will disagree because they just dont get it..others will disagree because they dont want you to get it!!

much loe

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hey Viking,
THIS was such an outstanding history lesson! I was glued to it for the entire 14 parts...I'm hoping to share it with as many family and friends who'll open their minds to it....
I especially liked: "Don't go to the light. It's a trap. They'll reprogram you to forget everything....Turn away and find your own light."
Great find. Thank you!
Maia

Yes discern...always ask if they are from the light and for the benifit on mankind...

viking

[Maia Gabrial]

I also took a listen to Morning Sky's "Terra Papers". Good stuff....

[DNA]

I just want to say, I ran into these three pieces of unrelated information and they all seem to corroborate one another.
One needs to read with an open mind. But, there is some fascinating corrolations here.

Alien Interview with Matilda Macelroy (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/44cosmic_wisdom/03PDF/Alien_Interview.pdf)

The Terra papers 1 and 2 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/08PDF_Files/The_Terra_Papers_Parts_1_and_2.pdf)

The Lacerta Files (interview with a female reptillian) (http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_lacerta_files.htm)

[DNA]

Viking says - A underground rebel group of reptilian beings overthrew the regime forcing them out of the solar system. The genesis scientist left taking many of his followers and some of the beasts with him to the Pleaides star system. Once the takeover was complete the reptoids using mind altering techniques ordered the systematic alteration of the remaining beasts minds reprogramming them to hide to recollection of the takeover. The reptoids constructed huge towers which transmitted a cloud of electronic signals designed to keep the beasts in a fogged and docile state. Sounds much like the proven results that (ELF) extremely low frequency exhibit. The beasts continued every seventh day visits for obedience lessons. Doctrines which would support the new empire became dogma.

We are these beasts! Robert believes we have been deceived for the last at least four thousand years. The reptilians are still here, Native American who know of them call them 'CHET-C' Lizard Men. Emerging from their lairs to torment and use humans for their own agendas. Abductees also speak of reptoid type aliens in their experiences.


Hi Viking. I don't know if you made this book report so to speak or some one else did. But I just wanted to say that I think it worth mentioning that the Annunaki so to speak. From what Morningsky said they were mammalian human akin to ourselves, except that they were descended from a wolf like creature.

Also, I think it worth mentioning that these Annunaki were considered a powerfull sub-ruling race, under the galactic ruling species of reptillian queens.

I mention this because in the excerpt I quoted from the original treatment that started this thread you mention an underground reptillian species kicked the Annunaki off the planet. Now, I have to ask, where did you find that information?
I know MorningSky mentions the Annunaki were eventually forced off planet so to speak, but I don't remember him ever laying the coupe at the feet of the reptillians. Further, the Annunaki were mentioned as having a feudal place in the reptillian empire, paying tribute and all that.
They were, as I remember, tax paying citizens of the reptillain empire.

As such, it would make very little sense for them to be evicted from the planet by a reptillian presense unless that reptillain contingent was independent of the empire.
A rebellian or a splinter empire.

Also, the mind control device you mention seems to agree very much with the writings of Ingo Swann in his book "PENETRATION". (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/44cosmic_wisdom/03PDF/Penetration_Ingo_Swann.pdf)Only, Ingo seems to think the mind control being generated is originating from the moon.

[learninglight]

LR6zOdJCJlM

thought worth putting on just in case some haven't seen this yet

much love

[apokalypse]

MorningSKy did good interview with VERITAS..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAc6oFhOcI0

[DNA]

There was something that R. Morningsky said that bothered me--I think it was on the Veritas link.

He said something to the effect that he wants to view himself as a being from the Stars (even as an Orion, even though he names Orion as the origin of the negative Reptilians--there are also positive Reptilians, as I understand it, but that's another matter.

He calls the Earth-indigenous beings who were genetically engineered by the ETs (and he is talking mostly about the Annunaki as those engineers, and as being very much influenced by the negative Reptilians, I believe) "beasts", and presumably he is talking about primates descended from the apes. He says that originally those "beasts" had no souls, but they gradually developed them.

This jumped out at me because personally, I think that animals often display higher states of Being than some of the negatively oriented ETs I have heard described. Furthermore, I don't see why being partially descended from primates would be something to reject. I often prefer the company of animals to human beings, in fact! Animals often display a great deal more common sense, love and deeper perception than some humans do.

It seemed like an odd thing for a Native American to say, as the true indigenous teachings have great reverence for animals, and do not regard them as having no souls.


Also, as I understand it, there have been other advanced races here from places other than Orion and Sirius, and the DNA of today's human race has components of these other ET races as well. And possibly some of those beastly bodies were actually harboring ET souls who entered those bodies to help foil the controller plans of the Reptilian/Annunaki from the beginning, by raising the consciousness of the primates and mutating the genes. There are other explanations for the evolvement of the hybrids besides Enki's influence.

And Morningsky lumps many descriptive terms into one term --ET--which does not really take into account the differences between beings from other dimensions who may have also played a part in Earth history, as opposed to ETs on the material planes who have taken less subtle roles in our planet's development.

I think it very misleading when this kind of oversimplification become so prevalent. It has a way of reducing the truly sacred and divine into something mundane and impotent.

While it is a mistake to buy into the dogma of the Church, which makes the divine seem to be something beyond human scope, there is a tendency on the opposite side to reduce everything to 3D explanations of how the advanced technologies and supernormal powers of the ETs are the only explanation for our perceptions of the mystery and sacredness of All That Is.

We can dip into all these different realms of intellectual exploration of our history and our future, and it's all good, but what it all boils down to, is that we need the realization of Oneness as a planetary race on Earth, and that is superseding any other priority more and more.

Orion is a constellation. When you say negative ets from Orion, it's an awfully big part of the cosmos your talking about.

But, I think your talking abut Sirius.
Sirius being the brightest star in Orion's belt.
And no, he doesn't say anything about negative reptillians being from Orion.

He talks about a race of beings who are subserviant so to speak to the reptillians, a race of mammalian human looking folks who are genetically evolved from a wolf like species. As such this is why we call Sirius the dog star.
And these Sirians are hinted at as being the Annunaki.
As such, these wolf like folks have infused our lot with their Wolf genes. :)
Cool huh? :)
And folks wonder why we get along so well with dogs and call them man's best freind? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, makes one wonder huh? :)

Again you mention negative reptillians.
I have to say. From what I read, the reptillians never did anything that bad.
They are apparentlly the baddest mofos in the galaxy, as such, they are bound to exercise some muscle and kick some ass now and again. :)

I have to say,,,I think you have to read his Terra Papers to get his full meaning.
I don't think your going to get it in a one hour interview.
Here is a free PDF online of the TERRA PAPERS BY ROBERT MORNING SKY. (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/08PDF_Files/The_Terra_Papers_Parts_1_and_2.pdf)

[Elliebabe]

This is fascinating information!

[Akasha]

Post removed. Reason: Seems I can't tell my "Sky"s from my "Star"s.

[Star Tsar]

Interviewed by Kerry Cassidy on Whistleblower Radio on 05 07 2010 here (http://projectcamelotportal.com/files/ArgusoogRadio/robert-moriningstar-20100507-ProjectCamelot.mp3).

I don't think this is the same person this thread is about Robert Morning Sky that interview is with Robert Morningstar?

[Star Tsar]

What a great point Robert makes about the human brain and atrophy.
I have never heard or even thought if that before!!!!!
I'm gonna use it in my arsenal of argument!

:)

[DNA]

I'm lmfao right now.
I jumped on here thinking,,,,hmmmmmm,,,I think I'll put a link to the Lacerta Interview so as to spark some conversation and see if anyone has a say.
Just to see I already did that a year and a half ago. Too funny.

Now I'm not lmao,,,because I realize that I've been trying to get someone to make a comment about the Lacerta interview for over a year now and all I'm hearing is crickets.
I know it is out there and a little fringe, but come one, this Star Wars meets Zacharia Sitchen isn't?

[Akasha]

Interviewed by Kerry Cassidy on Whistleblower Radio on 05 07 2010 here (http://projectcamelotportal.com/files/ArgusoogRadio/robert-moriningstar-20100507-ProjectCamelot.mp3).

I don't think this is the same person this thread is about Robert Morning Sky that interview is with Robert Morningstar?


Sorry about that.

[Sirius White]

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[DNA]

I'm lmfao right now.
I jumped on here thinking,,,,hmmmmmm,,,I think I'll put a link to the Lacerta Interview so as to spark some conversation and see if anyone has a say.
Just to see I already did that a year and a half ago. Too funny.

Now I'm not lmao,,,because I realize that I've been trying to get someone to make a comment about the Lacerta interview for over a year now and all I'm hearing is crickets.
I know it is out there and a little fringe, but come one, this Star Wars meets Zacharia Sitchen isn't?

The Lacerta interview has lots of truth. I don't think its 100% but this is standard fare with anything else. She is right about a potential war. The Elojim in the story is essentially the annunaki, whom Robert Morning Sky also mentions.......Ra/Marduke essentially overthrew them with the help of the reppies......and so they are nestled nice and deep in our planet now :) Other interesting things she talks about are also the reverse engineering of ships and the blast that killed some scientists- I believe that to be true. I think there are some purposeful tidbits in there designed to mislead. But I liked the interview, feel the truth out for yourself...

Here are a few tidbits I have correlated with the Lacerta Interview


THE LACERTA INTERVIEW WITH A FEMALE REPTILIAN (http://www.whale.to/b/lacerta.html)

" Question: Have you a special symbol or something like that with which we can identify your kind?
Answer: We have two major symbols representing our species. One (the more ancient) symbol is a blue serpent with four white wings on a black background (the colors have religious meanings for us). This symbol was used from certain parts of my society, but it is today very seldom—you humans have copied it very often in your old writings. The other symbol is a mystic being you would call a "Dragon" in the shape of a circle with seven white stars in the middle. This symbol is much more common today. If you see one of that symbols on a cylindrical craft I've described in my previous answer or on some underground installation, this thing or place belongs definetely to us (and I would advise you to go away from there as soon as possible)
Question: The seven stars in the second symbol you've mentioned—do they mean the Pleiades?
Answer: Pleiades? No. Actually, the seven stars are planets and moons and they are a symbol for our former seven colonies in the solar system. The stars are shown in front of a blue background and the dragon-circle means the shape of Earth. The seven white stars mean Moon, Mars, Venus and 4 moons of Jupiter and Saturn, we had colonized in the past. Two colonies are no longer in use and abandoned, so 5 stars would be more correct. "

" Question: Where can we find such a surface-near entry to your world?
Answer: Do you really think I will tell you their exact location? If you want to find such an entry, you have to search it by yourself (but I would advise you not to do that). When I came to the surface four days ago, I used an entry approximately 300 of your kilometres north from here near to a large lake, but I doubt that you would be able to find it (there are only a few entries in this part of the world—more are far more north and east).
As a little advice: if you are in a narrow cave or in a tunnel or even in something that looks to you like an artificial mine shaft and as deeper you walk as smoother appear the walls and if you feel unusual warm air streaming from the depth or if you hear the rushing sound of streaming air in a ventilation or elevator shaft, then look for a special kind of artificial and smooth wall somewhere in the cave with a door made of gray metal. If you would be able to open that door (but I doubt this) you would be in a usually round technical room with ventilation systems and elevators to the depth. This is probably an entry to our world (See more information on these tunnels in the "Branton Files"..
If you have reached this point, you should know that we are now definetely aware of your presence. You are already in big trouble if you have entered the round room, but you should look for one of the two reptilian symbols on the walls. If there are no symbols or other symbols, you are maybe in bigger trouble as you think, because not every underground installation belongs to our kind. Some new tunnel systems are operated from alien races (including hostile races). My general advice if you find yourself in a for you strange underground installation: run away as fast as you can."

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REPTILIAN RAPE IN THE SUPERSTITION MOUNTAINS (http://www.reptilianagenda.com/exp/e111600b.shtml)

" She discovered she was in an oval room about fifteen feet across. The low ceiling was domes with deep ribs of a soft pale purple. From those arched robs a while light shone. The light was bright, but not harsh. On her left, lights of amber and blue flashed on the wall. "


" Two aliens wore either a grey scarf or a wide ribbon draped over their shoulder. Under the soft looking ribbons they wore a white jump suit with insignia that showed a curved dragon with a seven point star in the middle of it. The other 'reptile-men' wore black uniforms with the same insignia. The tall WHITE SKINNED lizard man [note: these "White Dracos" have also been seen in the Dulce - Los Alamos - Kirtland AFB mega-base] wore a burnt orange jump suit with three insignia on the left side. There was a black inverted triangle, the round dragon with star, and an oval with moving stars on it. She felt fascinated by that one. It was like watching a 3d movie in miniature. On the right side of his uniform were three black bars on a silver disk. On the left cuff of his sleeve he wore a row of inverted triangles with three lines cutting through it. "

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Also worth mentioning from the Lacerta interview is when asked about the types of flying craft the terran (earth) reptilians fly Lacerta stated that they flew the cigar shaped cylindrical crafts.

On a personal note,,,,I interviewed three people individually who attended an out door "rave" party in the superstitions back in the fall of 1996. All three people reported the same incident, and one was pretty shook up about it.
They stated that a large cylindrical cigar shaped craft hovered extremely close to the group of young dancing people, and that it was trying to obscure itself in a large dust cloud that was the result of six thousand kids dancing in the desert.

On another personal note, I have a friend who took a picture in the superstitions of a cigar shaped flying craft, but, she never saw the craft when she took the picture it just happend to be in the back ground.

It is also worth noting that the superstitions are reknowned for driving miners insane.
Seasoned and grizzled outdoorsman from the nineteenth and early twentieth century talk about a strange forboding and a feeling of impending doom if they didn't leave the place.

Many miners who ignored this warning, were found quite literally headless.
This same thing happened quite often in the Nahilli Valley of Canada.
It seems that if humans don't get the message in terms of leaving when spooked, they are made an example of in hopes that other prospecting miners will get the message.
Miners with their heads cut off would certainly send a message.

The superstitions get their name from the native americans having so many legends about them and being convinced that the gods of thunder lived on those mountains.
Unexplained sudden loud thunder would always be heard in the superstitions, so much so that the indians refered to the gods who lived there as thunder gods.
It was only later that the sound, which still occasionally occurs was found to synonomous to a sonic boom.
I wonder what has been making those sonic booms for hundreds if not thousands of years?

[PurpleLama]

Sirius being the brightest star in Orion's belt.



Not quite, but close.
http://www.starrynighteducation.com/stargazer/images/1573OrionDogs.jpg