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Referee
28th September 2012, 04:32
A closer look at Whole Foods Markets West Coast USA and their false Organic claims.
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MistahMojoRisin
28th September 2012, 07:15
great video, thanks for sharing. I just woke up to new info!
DeBron
28th September 2012, 13:28
mmmm. Makes me like the farmer's markets so much more. I also get veggies from a place called Sevananda which is a Co-op here in the Atlanta area. No meat but everything in there is delicious. If it weren't for the fact that I love LOVE medium steak, bbq chicken, and Bison, I would be a vegetarian. (lol)
n.cangiano
28th September 2012, 13:50
I always knew they were full of it. Just want to charge more money for lies in my opinion. I've seen some of the stuff in that store priced a lot more higher then even regular supermarkets charge.
Sidney
28th September 2012, 15:00
Many of the foods they sell you can find at walmart for much less $$$
DianeKJ
28th September 2012, 15:39
Just for a bit of clarificatiion Whole Foods has in fact given support of prop 37. While I do believe you still have to be a smart shopper, even at Whole Foods, I'd rather shop here than at Walmart. Just sayin :)
It is a messy situation. I personally know someone that works for one of the companies that donated money to the prop. Eveything I've learned about this company thus far tell me they walk their talk as a natural foods company and even they were cautious about giving their support right away.
I fully agree that labeling Must happen, I just also know it's messier than it appears at first glance. Fingers crossed for this passing ;)
Gardener
28th September 2012, 15:52
Labels are a must, in UK it will say on the ingredients label if it contains GMO eg 'modified maiz starch' how else are we to know and have choice. Monsanto have more or less left the European market with test crops. Whether or not they are operating covertly IDK.
Noble Hops
29th September 2012, 02:29
Fact: Whole Foods Market does NOT train its people to tell customers that they don't sell GMO product.
The deception doesn't come from the company itself, but rather from random ignorant/confused employees who haven't yet been given (or absorbed) proper training on the subject, so they speculate on an answer instead of just saying "I don't know", and referring the customer to someone who's actually on the ball. That's the real problem.
Overall, that documentary was insidious and full of disinfo.
Referee
29th September 2012, 04:36
Just for a bit of clarificatiion Whole Foods has in fact given support of prop 37. While I do believe you still have to be a smart shopper, even at Whole Foods, I'd rather shop here than at Walmart. Just sayin :)
It is a messy situation. I personally know someone that works for one of the companies that donated money to the prop. Eveything I've learned about this company thus far tell me they walk their talk as a natural foods company and even they were cautious about giving their support right away.
I fully agree that labeling Must happen, I just also know it's messier than it appears at first glance. Fingers crossed for this passing ;)
Do you have a press release to back up this claim?
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Fact: Whole Foods Market does NOT train its people to tell customers that they don't sell GMO product.
The deception doesn't come from the company itself, but rather from random ignorant/confused employees who haven't yet been given (or absorbed) proper training on the subject, so they speculate on an answer instead of just saying "I don't know", and referring the customer to someone who's actually on the ball. That's the real problem.
Overall, that documentary was insidious and full of disinfo.
The fact is just like almost all companies they practice deceptive advertising.
Referee
29th September 2012, 06:05
Here is AJ today on the issue
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DianeKJ
29th September 2012, 06:09
http://livingmaxwell.com/whole-foods-supports-proposition-37-the-mandatory-labeling-of-gmos-in-california
http://media.wholefoodsmarket.com/news/whole-foods-market-supports-californias-proposition-37
There is a start there above, going to sleep right now. I don't think they are perfect, nor do I trust any company 100% to have my health interest above their profit margin. But I do not believe they are "training" their employees to tell lies. I really think that is a stretch and an over-exaggeration.
There are other companies that are frustrating me like Safeway's "O" brand, Safeway is heavily connected to a company actually throwing money in "against" the prop. Another big company that has still remained silent on this issue, that I love to shop at is Trader Joes, not sure what is going on there.
Many, many of the organic companies are owned by huge companies like Proctor and Gamble, it's really a frustrating situation all around.
-peace,
Di
Just for a bit of clarificatiion Whole Foods has in fact given support of prop 37. While I do believe you still have to be a smart shopper, even at Whole Foods, I'd rather shop here than at Walmart. Just sayin :)
It is a messy situation. I personally know someone that works for one of the companies that donated money to the prop. Eveything I've learned about this company thus far tell me they walk their talk as a natural foods company and even they were cautious about giving their support right away.
I fully agree that labeling Must happen, I just also know it's messier than it appears at first glance. Fingers crossed for this passing ;)
Do you have a press release to back up this claim?
¤=[Post Update]=¤
Fact: Whole Foods Market does NOT train its people to tell customers that they don't sell GMO product.
The deception doesn't come from the company itself, but rather from random ignorant/confused employees who haven't yet been given (or absorbed) proper training on the subject, so they speculate on an answer instead of just saying "I don't know", and referring the customer to someone who's actually on the ball. That's the real problem.
Overall, that documentary was insidious and full of disinfo.
The fact is just like almost all companies they practice deceptive advertising.
A Simple Human
29th September 2012, 06:46
Whole Foods Market has responded to the claims in the Organic Spies YouTube video through its companies blog:
Let’s talk about GMOs at Whole Foods Market (http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/blog/lets-talk-about-gmos-whole-foods-market?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WholeStoryBlog+%28Whole+Story+Blog%29) (Whole Foods Market)
Let’s talk about GMOs at Whole Foods Market
By A.C. Gallo | September 27, 2012
At Whole Foods Market, we believe consumers have the right to know how their food is produced and this includes whether or not it contains Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs).
The YouTube video showing our store Team Members giving conflicting responses to a question about GMOs reminds us that while we try to keep all our 70,000 Team Members up-to-speed on the latest information, clearly we need to do more. Some products in our stores DO contain GMOs – just like any other food store in the country, due to the pervasiveness of GMOs – and we need to do a better job of making sure our Team Members understand this so they can provide customers with the facts.
I hope you don’t believe the claims that Whole Foods Market is coaching its Team Members to give false information to its customers, because it’s completely untrue. The idea goes directly against who we are as a company – for years, we’ve worked hard to provide as much information as possible about our products to our customers.
Here are some things about Whole Foods Market and GMOs that you didn’t see in the video – we have:
- Invested hundreds of thousands of dollars in putting our house brand products through third party non-GMO verification.
- Worked tirelessly over the years to support organic agriculture to provide the largest variety of organic products that are grown without GMOs seed per the USDA National Organic Standards.
- Worked one-on-one with hundreds of our supplier partners to encourage them to get their ingredients from Non-GMO sources.
- Supported mandatory product labeling measures over the years, most recently including California’s Proposition 37 and Washington state’s Initiative Measure 522, with the hope that the state efforts lead to one federal standard.
- Helped inform and educate our Team Members and shoppers about the complex issue of GMOs and their prevalence in the country’s food supply.
- Celebrated Non-GMO month every October with displays, signage, and this year a sale, in our stores.
- Worked hard to provide as many Non-GMO choices for customers as we can.
- Put close to 5,000 Non-GMO Verified items on our shelves and done more than any other retailer to support Non-GMO verification and prioritize Non-GMO grocery brands.
Our promise to customers is that we will be further educating our Team Members to give good, clear information about GMOs, so that they are providing facts to those customers who have questions. One way we’re ramping up that education is by putting up GMO information centers in our stores for customer and Team Member education. The first ones go up on October 1 in our California stores.
Whole Foods Market has publicly stated its support of California’s Proposition 37 (http://media.wholefoodsmarket.com/news/whole-foods-market-supports-californias-proposition-37).
We are not offering a financial donation to the effort because we do not contribute to political campaigns or ballot initiatives as a company policy. Instead, we are supporting the effort by helping inform our Team Members and our customer base with “Vote Yes on Prop 37” signs and information booths in our stores. We’re also highlighting and promoting hundreds of Non-GMO products in our stores throughout October to highlight the availability of these products for our customers.
Ideally, we hope the passing of Proposition 37 will lead to one federal standard for labeling GMOs, similar to how the National Organic Standards were formed. One set of rules and uniform support of a consumer’s right to know would be in everyone’s best interests.
Update: We don’t contribute to political campaigns, ballot initiatives, etc. as a policy set by company leadership who recognize that Whole Foods Market represents the viewpoints of a wide variety of customers and other stakeholders. However, we have heard feedback from our customers about finding additional ways to support this important effort and we are currently evaluating what more we can do to help with getting CA Prop 37 passed. Stay tuned.
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So, Whole Foods Market openly acknowledges that it does sell GMO foods, that it needs to train its employees more thoroughly, and that it does not financially support CA Prop 37 due to political reasons.
Other than suggesting that Whole Foods Market intentionally trains its employees to deceive customers regarding its sale of GMO food, which is speculation on behalf of Organic Spies, it seems the information in the video is otherwise accurate. ;)
Arrowwind
29th September 2012, 14:17
I went into Whole foods a couple of years ago and inquired about Canola Oil which they had on their shelves.
I was told by several employees that Canola was not GMO, but was hybrid. I was taken to the main manager to discuss the issue. I did not challenge anyone but only said that I believed it was GMO and I want to talk to their supervisor...
Each employee had the same rap, needless to say I was convinced that they were trained to say what they said
and I felt that they were totally BS. One employee, when discussing it being a hybrid plant, after a few more question,
I realized she didn't even undestand what a hybrid plant was.
So I guess Im an Organic Spy and this is my speculation? guess so. Take it or leave it.
This is what Mike Adams from Natural News Says about it.
http://www.naturalnews.com/029516_canola_oil_fraud.html
The rapeseed plant was genetically modified further to withstand heavy doses of the Monsanto's weed killing herbicide Roundup. Roundup itself is not exactly safe for humans and animals, so the use of a toxin to support a genetically modified plant makes for a dangerous combination.
In addition to the plant having an unpredictable GMO element, the oil is heated to over 300 degrees as part of a process to remove its extremely unpleasant odor. Processing vegetable oils may include degumming, batch acidulation, bleaching, deodorization, chemical extraction methods using solvents, and high temperature expeller pressing
RunningDeer
29th September 2012, 15:02
I went into Whole foods a couple of years ago and inquired about Canola Oil which they had on their shelves.
I was told by several employees that Canola was not GMO, but was hybrid. I was taken to the main manager to discuss the issue. I did not challenge anyone but only said that I believed it was GMO and I want to talk to their supervisor...
Each employee had the same rap, needless to say I was convinced that they were trained to say what they said
and I felt that they were totally BS. One employee, when discussing it being a hybrid plant, after a few more question,
I realized she didn't even undestand what a hybrid plant was.
So I guess Im an Organic Spy and this is my speculation? guess so. Take it or leave it.
This is what Mike Adams from Natural News Says about it.
http://www.naturalnews.com/029516_canola_oil_fraud.html
The rapeseed plant was genetically modified further to withstand heavy doses of the Monsanto's weed killing herbicide Roundup. Roundup itself is not exactly safe for humans and animals, so the use of a toxin to support a genetically modified plant makes for a dangerous combination.
In addition to the plant having an unpredictable GMO element, the oil is heated to over 300 degrees as part of a process to remove its extremely unpleasant odor. Processing vegetable oils may include degumming, batch acidulation, bleaching, deodorization, chemical extraction methods using solvents, and high temperature expeller pressing
Thank you, Arrowwind. I made the quarterly shopping run to Whole Foods a couple of weeks back. I went to grab a bottle of canola oil on the top shelf with the taller bottles of olive oil. I wondered why it wasn't with all the rest of the smaller ones, just one shelf down. I paid no attention to the a big, Nooooooo! until I reach for it. Again, a big, Nooooooo! I sent a thank you out to the "no police" and went on my way.
Amysenthia
29th September 2012, 15:45
Thanks Referee for the great post. I have always felt a big business feel when shopping at Whole Foods. This confirms for me why.
I still love the love a post that was made a while ago by someone, (I'm sorry that I can't remember who, but I so remember the lesson), that related an experience of a NWO elitist shopping and buying only products that have a U in a circle. I have been checking for this whenever I shop and have found this to be very valid. If it does not state that it is Organic any product that I have found that had a U in a circle on it did not contain GMO or even too many other adulterated ingredients.
ThePythonicCow
29th September 2012, 16:06
I still love the love a post that was made a while ago by someone, (I'm sorry that I can't remember who, but I so remember the lesson), that related an experience of a NWO elitist shopping and buying only products that have a U in a circle. I have been checking for this whenever I shop and have found this to be very valid. If it does not state that it is Organic any product that I have found that had a U in a circle on it did not contain GMO or even too many other adulterated ingredients.
That sounds like this thread: Jim Stone Reveals how to tell if food has been poisoned by Elite (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45914-Jim-Stone-Reveals-how-to-tell-if-food-has-been-poisoned-by-Elite)
Amysenthia
29th September 2012, 16:22
I still love the love a post that was made a while ago by someone, (I'm sorry that I can't remember who, but I so remember the lesson), that related an experience of a NWO elitist shopping and buying only products that have a U in a circle. I have been checking for this whenever I shop and have found this to be very valid. If it does not state that it is Organic any product that I have found that had a U in a circle on it did not contain GMO or even too many other adulterated ingredients.
That sounds like this thread: Jim Stone Reveals how to tell if food has been poisoned by Elite (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45914-Jim-Stone-Reveals-how-to-tell-if-food-has-been-poisoned-by-Elite)
That's the post Paul. Thank you so much for helping to give credit for great info presented here. I have been checking any purchases since I read this material and have found it to be absolutely valid. I also didn't purchase things that I use to think were OK based on not having the U in a circle, then researching to find out the even though I may have erroneously thought them to be OK contained unsuitable ingredients.
Laurel
29th September 2012, 16:44
Just last week a friend told me that she bought a couple free-range chickens from a small, local organic farm. She complained that the chickens (as well as chickens she's bought from other organic suppliers) were not as tender as the chickens she buys from Whole Foods. I told her to question what Whole Foods is doing to the chickens to make them so tender. Makes you wonder.
Eram
29th September 2012, 16:50
very good thread start.
In Holland there is a sweets section in every whole sale store and almost 95% of the sweets aren't sweetened with sugar..... but with High-fructose corn syrup... ahhh
I mean, 10 years ago, one might have caused it to ignorance, but now in 2012... still 95% of the sweets, sweetened with fructose-corn syrup? Smells like dirty infiltration to me.
Most people in the stores don't actually know how bad that stuff is, sad to say.
RunningDeer
29th September 2012, 17:48
Whole Foods Market has responded to the claims in the Organic Spies YouTube video through its companies blog:
Wow, thanks A Simple Human. I'm just getting to your post. Worked from the bottom and then jumped to the first vid. Seems, I'm part of the problem... There’s still a part of me that says, what do I trust? Some of that and some of this.
Here’s a useful tool: calibrated through muscle testing. I learned from Dr. David Hawkins’ materials. These day, I go with the gut. It’s nice to have a back up for those times when it’s hard to get out of the head. This is a great vid. The gentleman goes over at least 11 techniques and how and when to apply.
I shop mostly the outer isles. Questions come up in regular markets on what’s safe, what’s not. I’m coming to the place where I do the best I can. Continue to live as balanced in mind, body, and spirit, as I can. Don’t buy into negative programs. Otherwise, no matter what quality foods, drinks, holistic approaches used, silly-mind cancels them out.
Self Muscle Testing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiQseSkELQY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiQseSkELQY&feature=related
A Simple Human
29th September 2012, 19:33
So I guess Im an Organic Spy and this is my speculation? guess so. Take it or leave it.
@ Arrowwind,
:gaah: Do you really want to do this? OK. Normally I would bypass a post such as yours; however, the failure to carefully read and comprehend another member's message seems to be a prevalent trait among many PA members, and frankly, I'm tired of it. So, I will take the time to address your crass response.
So I guess Im an Organic Spy
If you took the time to watch the initial video posted by Referee, then you should understand that the investigators and creators of the video label themselves Organic Spies. I did not create this moniker for them!
So, you tell me. Are you a member of the Organic Spies? Did you help create, edit, or upload that video? If so, then I guess you are an Organic Spy.
this is my speculation? guess so.
Yes that is your speculation, and you guessed correctly. ;) The fact is that Whole Foods Market (http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/careers) claims to have over 350 retail and non-retail locations:
Careers
Whole Foods Market has more than 350 retail and non-retail locations in the US, Canada and UK — and even more stores in development. Come grow with us!
The one store you visited and the handful of stores targeted in the video are too small a sample for any logical person to deduce that it's the company's policy to train its employees to deceive customers regarding its sale of GMO food. Again, if you watched the initial video, then you would know that several of the employees were honest and admitted the company, in fact, does sell GMO food.
Clearly there are most likely deviations between the 350 retail and non-retail locations. So, the possibility that several of the locations intentionally train their employees to lie about GMO sales does exist, but it hardly proves that it's Whole Foods Market's corporate policy. To factually do that, one would have to gain employment at a majority of the locations (more than 50%), go through the training process, and record the proceedings.
Now, did you carefully read my entire post? It essentially supports the information in the video, with the exception of the claim that Whole Foods Market intentionally trains its employees to deceive customers regarding its sale of GMO food. I think my post is significant due to the fact that the information was taken from Whole Foods Market's very own blog; thereby, incriminating themselves.
Did you read my conclusion?
So, Whole Foods Market openly acknowledges that it does sell GMO foods, that it needs to train its employees more thoroughly, and that it does not financially support CA Prop 37 due to political reasons.
Other than suggesting that Whole Foods Market intentionally trains its employees to deceive customers regarding its sale of GMO food, which is speculation on behalf of Organic Spies, it seems the information in the video is otherwise accurate. ;)
I tend to agree with Referee:
The fact is just like almost all companies they practice deceptive advertising.
While I do feel Whole Foods Market does practice deceptive advertising, I do not feel there has been enough evidence to suggest that they train their employees to lie. It seems they do not provide adequate training to their employees, admitted in their blog, in order for them to provide an accurate answer to customers, which in and of itself is a problem.
The company also admits that they only just recently supported CA Prop 37 on September 11, 2012, and that they refuse to support it financially due to political reasons. This admission suggests that their motives are suspect. It appears the company values profit over their own moral standards and the welfare of their clientele.
My suggestion to anyone who wishes to shop at Whole Foods Market, or any supermarket for that matter, is to investigate and know the products you are purchasing beforehand, and if you have the opportunity, support your local farmers and/or farmer's markets.
Now, regarding Canola oil. Yes, I was aware approximately three years ago that the inedible rapeseed plant was genetically manipulated, and then dubbed, "canola" for marketing purposes. I don't need Mike Adams' Natural News article to know this either, the United States Department of Agriculture (http://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/crops/soybeans-oil-crops/canola.aspx) states as much:
Crop History
Since World War II, global production of rapeseed and canola has grown dramatically. During WWII, inedible rapeseed oil was used as a high-temperature lubricant on steam ships, but with the switch to diesel engines in the following decade, industrial demand declined. Initially, consumer demand for rapeseed oil was negligible because it naturally contains high amounts of erucic acid. Erucic acid was enough of a concern that in 1956, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) banned rapeseed oil for human consumption. In addition, demand for rapeseed meal was low due to high levels of glucosinolates, a compound that at high doses depresses animal growth rates.
By the early 1970s, plant breeders developed low-erucic acid rapeseed (LEAR) varieties that also had low glucosinolate content. In 1978, the Western Canadian Oilseed Crushers Association registered these varieties with the name "canola" for marketing reasons. Over the next 10 years, European seed producers also developed LEAR varieties, which they dubbed "double-zero" or "canola-equivalent."
Take it or leave it.
I'll leave it, thank you very much! :hand:
A.S.H.
RunningDeer
29th September 2012, 20:03
Do you really want this?...
So I guess Im an Organic Spy and this is my speculation? guess so. Take it or leave it.
"... the failure to carefully read and comprehend another member's message seems to be a prevalent trait among many PA members, and frankly, I'm tired of it..."
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Hello A Simple Human,
I have the utmost respect for you and your mind. You explain things with such precision. There is no question that your purpose, your heart is here to assist the Whole.
I tripled checked. As I see it, Arrowwind isn't questioning your post. The post is about Canola Oil and the its process. I saw the comment about 'Organic Spy' as a creative play with wording.
Both your posts are helpful. After the initial anger and annoyed stage of learning this information, I found workable solutions...no I take that back...more accurately stated, 'remembered' that I am an empowered human. I came away with:
- Calibrated through muscle testing as a back up for those times when it’s hard to get out of the silly-mind
- Continue to live a balanced of mind, body, and spirit
- Most importantly, don’t buy into negative programs. Otherwise, no matter what quality foods, drinks, holistic approaches used, silly-mind cancels them out.
With heart,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer
Noble Hops
29th September 2012, 23:01
My suggestion to anyone who wishes to shop at Whole Foods Market, or any supermarket for that matter, is to investigate and know the products you are purchasing beforehand, and if you have the opportunity, support your local farmers and/or farmer's markets.
QFE. :thumb:
Arrowwind
30th September 2012, 01:19
:gaah: Do you really want to do this? OK. Normally I would bypass a post such as yours; however, the failure to carefully read and comprehend another member's message seems to be a prevalent trait among many PA members, and frankly, I'm tired of it. So, I will take the time to address your crass response.
So I guess Im an Organic Spy
If you took the time to watch the initial video posted by Referee, then you should understand that the investigators and creators of the video label themselves Organic Spies. I did not create this moniker for them!
So, you tell me. Are you a member of the Organic Spies? Did you help create, edit, or upload that video? If so, then I guess you are an Organic Spy.
this is my speculation? guess so.
Yes that is your speculation, and you guessed correctly. ;) The fact is that Whole Foods Market (http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/careers) claims to have over 350 retail and non-retail locations:
Careers
Whole Foods Market has more than 350 retail and non-retail locations in the US, Canada and UK — and even more stores in development. Come grow with us!
The one store you visited and the handful of stores targeted in the video are too small a sample for any logical person to deduce that it's the company's policy to train its employees to deceive customers regarding its sale of GMO food. Again, if you watched the initial video, then you would know that several of the employees were honest and admitted the company, in fact, does sell GMO food.
Now, did you carefully read my entire post? It essentially supports the information in the video, with the exception of the claim that Whole Foods Market intentionally trains its employees to deceive customers regarding its sale of GMO food. I think my post is significant due to the fact that the information was taken from Whole Foods Market's very own blog; thereby, incriminating themselves.
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Actually I did watch the video, the whole thing.
And I rather like the idea of being an organic spy myself. Ive been checking in on people, businesses and protocols of all kinds of sorts for many years. Do they have a copywrite on "organic spy" I wonder? - and I've had it out with one of the CEOs of whole foods actually, myself.
I dont trust whole foods... they do business with the devil as far as Im concerned.
I dont really give a flip if the store I sampled does not reflect the 350 stores that there are. It is the store I was shopping in and from which I FED MY FAMILY. Thousands of people shop there so yes, their response to me was very personal and very important to me and my community.
acutually, i think your taking offense where none is offered.
ThePythonicCow
30th September 2012, 02:03
:gaah: Do you really want to do this? OK. Normally I would bypass a post such as yours; however, the failure to carefully read and comprehend another member's message seems to be a prevalent trait among many PA members, and frankly, I'm tired of it. So, I will take the time to address your crass response.
I wonder if Whole Foods, or your other favorite local source, sells calming herbs. You might look into that :yes4:
actually, i think your taking offense where none is offered.
It rather looks that way to me too.
DNA
30th September 2012, 02:37
Fact: Whole Foods Market does NOT train its people to tell customers that they don't sell GMO product.
The deception doesn't come from the company itself, but rather from random ignorant/confused employees who haven't yet been given (or absorbed) proper training on the subject, so they speculate on an answer instead of just saying "I don't know", and referring the customer to someone who's actually on the ball. That's the real problem.
Overall, that documentary was insidious and full of disinfo.
Thank you. You said everything i was going to say
A Simple Human
30th September 2012, 03:11
I wonder if Whole Foods, or your other favorite local source, sells calming herbs. You might look into that :yes4:
That was a good one, Paul! :biggrin1: I did consider sipping some non GMO chamomile tea while administering some lavender aromatherapy, but I believe I have a better idea. ;)
I thank Bill Ryan, the Administrators, and the Moderators for allowing my membership. I appreciate most member's hospitality, and I'm especially grateful for the friendships I have made while a member. Take care.
I'm the hell outta here! :yo:
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Referee
3rd October 2012, 06:10
Whole Foods has removed this video from You Tube. What are they scared of what an about face since being exposed!
We are finding out Monsato people are on the Board of Directors at Whole Foods What a LIE!!!!!
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Arrowwind
3rd October 2012, 07:55
Im amazed that Alex is on Whole Food's back. This is great! Finally the truth that will not be retracted from our sight.
I too was a customer of whole foods for over 20 years, but I couldnt afford to feed my family by solely shopping there. It would have busted us flat.
Alex says Whole Foods did not give money to support prop 37.
As I realized some time ago... Whole Foods deals with the devil.
Think I will give Whole Foods a call and tell them what I think.... again.
pugwash84
3rd October 2012, 09:06
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RunningDeer
3rd October 2012, 22:41
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Amazing, pugwash84. Thanks! Time to turn my Whole Foods shopping bags inside out.
ThePythonicCow
4th October 2012, 03:46
Amazing, pugwash84. Thanks! Time to turn my Whole Foods shopping bags inside out.
Well, perhaps not so hastily :).
That video was uploaded to Youtube on Aug 28, 2008.
It has text overlaying the screen, from 01:05 to 01:20, the following:
Since this report came out, WF's "California Blend" is now from USA.
As to how much other "Organic" food sold by WholeFoods is currently produced in China ... I don't think one can tell from this four year old video :).
Amysenthia
4th October 2012, 11:41
I still love the love a post that was made a while ago by someone, (I'm sorry that I can't remember who, but I so remember the lesson), that related an experience of a NWO elitist shopping and buying only products that have a U in a circle. I have been checking for this whenever I shop and have found this to be very valid. If it does not state that it is Organic any product that I have found that had a U in a circle on it did not contain GMO or even too many other adulterated ingredients.
That sounds like this thread: Jim Stone Reveals how to tell if food has been poisoned by Elite (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45914-Jim-Stone-Reveals-how-to-tell-if-food-has-been-poisoned-by-Elite)
HI just bumping this so that the PM that I received about this link can read this.
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