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Bill Ryan
28th September 2012, 04:42
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See the video report on the page linked below. "Tonight" means 27 September, the date of this post.

This looks a little too close for comfort to what John Moore reported a few weeks ago from his insider source: that sometime before the end of October, there would be a massive cyberattack on the US financial system over the course of a weekend, which would bring everything to a crunching halt and eventually result in the suspension of the November election. (My paraphrase.)

http://abcnews.go.com/US/hackers-block-us-banks-online-service-bank-america/story?id=17343055






The financial and banking industries are on high alert tonight as a massive cyberattack (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2011/10/bank-of-america-under-hacking-attack/) continues, with potentially millions of customers of Bank of America, PNC and Wells Fargo finding themselves blocked from banking online.

"There is an elevated level of threat," said Doug Johnson, a vice president and senior adviser of the American Bankers Association. "The threat level is now high."

"This is twice as large as any flood we have ever seen," said Dick Clarke, an ABC News consultant and former cybersecurity czar.

Sources told ABC News that the so-called denial of service attacks had been caused by hackers from the Middle East who had secretly transmitted signals commandeering thousands of computers worldwide.

Those computers -- or "zombies" -- were then used to overwhelm bank websites with a barrage of electronic traffic.

Different banks have been targeted on different days.

Today was PNC Bank's turn: For three hours, ABC News tried to get on the PNC website to no avail.

On Facebook, a frustrated customer, Cynthia Schirm, wrote, "Trying to pay bills. This is ridiculous."

"Hopefully it can be up soon," wrote Stacy Briggs-Gerlach. "Never realized how dependent I am on it!!!"

A group of hackers calling themselves Izz ad-Din al-Qassam warned the financial industry that it was going to attack in retaliation for the controversial film "The Innocence of Muslims," (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/09/tv-host-who-aired-scenes-of-anti-islam-film-shocked-by-violent-reaction/) which provoked outrage across the Muslim world earlier this month.

The U.S. said it suspected that hackers in Iran were also involved.

"This is the first time that we know about, where a Middle Eastern entity, perhaps a Middle Eastern government, has attacked websites, critical infrastructure, in the United States," Clarke said.

Even though hackers have not been able to steal any money during these attacks, authorities say they fear the next generation of wide-scale cyber assaults could be more devastating.

"If they get inside the banks, they can move money around and cause financial chaos," Clarke said.

ABC News obtained a Sept. 17 FBI alert warning that foreign hackers were targeting bank and credit union workers.

In a number of those cases, the hackers stole employee login credentials and then wired themselves between $400,000 and $900,000.

Sources told ABC News that the U.S. government was actively working to locate and disrupt the massive attacks.
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Edit to add:

It wasn't John Moore -- it was Steve Quayle, interviewed by Alex Jones, on 29 August.

Listen to this three minute extract:

http://projectavalon.net/Steve_Quayle_Alex_Jones_29_August_2012_Obama_Preparing_for_Total_Takeover_extract.mp3

ThePythonicCow
28th September 2012, 04:48
A group of hackers calling themselves Izz ad-Din al-Qassam warned the financial industry that it was going to attack in retaliation for the controversial film "The Innocence of Muslims," which provoked outrage across the Muslim world earlier this month.

The U.S. said it suspected that hackers in Iran were also involved.

"This is the first time that we know about, where a Middle Eastern entity, perhaps a Middle Eastern government, has attacked websites, critical infrastructure, in the United States," Clarke said.

Even though hackers have not been able to steal any money during these attacks, authorities say they fear the next generation of wide-scale cyber assaults could be more devastating.

"If they get inside the banks, they can move money around and cause financial chaos," Clarke said.
My initial reaction to this report is that it smells like a false flag denial of service, intending to spread more fear of Iranians and Muslims amongst Americans.

Anchor
28th September 2012, 04:53
My initial reaction to this report is that it smells like a false flag denial of service, intending to spread more fear of Iranians and Muslims amongst Americans.

Agree.

Keywords: elevated level of threat / threat level is high.

Bill Ryan
28th September 2012, 04:53
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I was wrong -- it wasn't John Moore. It was Steve Quayle, interviewed by Alex Jones, on 29 August.

Listen to this three minute extract:

http://projectavalon.net/Steve_Quayle_Alex_Jones_29_August_2012_Obama_Preparing_for_Total_Takeover_extract.mp3

Referee
28th September 2012, 04:53
Wow I am speechless I did not think they would let it happen. Smells like a False Flag. Blame everyone else and go to War. I find it nearly impossible for them to steal log on's from Iran.

It smells because they are linking it to the controversial film of Mohammad

PS Funny how it is the Mega Banks!

ThePythonicCow
28th September 2012, 04:56
Today was PNC Bank's turn: For three hours, ABC News tried to get on the PNC website to no avail.
I just tried going to the main PNC bank website now: www.pnc.com

Here's their front page:

http://thepythoniccow.us/PNC_Bank_Repairs_In_Progress.png

Flash
28th September 2012, 04:59
Going to get some cash out of my bank tomorrow, (a small Canadian bank, not targetted yet) to hold on for a month at least - and pay my heating bill not to be cut off.

ThePythonicCow
28th September 2012, 05:09
The financial and banking industries are on high alert tonight as a massive cyberattack (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2011/10/bank-of-america-under-hacking-attack/) continues, with potentially millions of customers of Bank of America, PNC and Wells Fargo finding themselves blocked from banking online.

Would it make sense to change this thread's title from "Massive cyberattack on US banks" to "Massive cyberattack on select US banks" ?

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I just tried going to the main PNC bank website now: www.pnc.com
The main web pages for other two banks named, bankofamerica.com and wellsfargo.com, show no problem at this time.

This is consistent with the details in the original article, that state that it is now PNC's turn to be targeted.

Flash
28th September 2012, 05:18
What about Major attack, it is large but less massive than massive. We could keep massive for the next one just before the election I bet.

ThePythonicCow
28th September 2012, 05:24
What about Major attack, it is large but less massive than massive. We could keep massive for the next one just before the election I bet.

Yeah - I like that suggested change. I'll make it now (hope Bill doesn't mind.)

Rocky_Shorz
28th September 2012, 05:32
it would be fun to wake up and find $500,000 sitting in my bank account...

bluestflame
28th September 2012, 05:32
or the banks in question are using it to buy time to cover thier tracks

like when you do the last minute frantic tidy up before the landlord does a house inspection?

Rocky_Shorz
28th September 2012, 05:40
should be easy to track down, can't be that many people in the world mad at bankers... ;)

ThePythonicCow
28th September 2012, 05:44
Other news reports on this cyberattack in the last 12 hours:

Newsday (http://newyork.newsday.com/business/pnc-bank-u-s-bank-wells-fargo-targeted-by-hackers-1.4048339):



Two more major American banks, U.S. Bank and PNC, reported problems with their customer websites Wednesday after a financial services security group warned about possible cyberattacks.
...Wells Fargo & Co.’s website was attacked Tuesday.
SecurityInfoWatch (http://www.securityinfowatch.com/news/10785600/pnc-us-bancorp-latest-bank-websites-to-face-access-issues):



-PNC Financial Services Group Inc. became the latest major U.S. bank hit with a cyber attack said to be retaliation for an Internet video that has stirred violent protests across the Middle East.
...Customers of Wells Fargo & Co. and U.S. Bancorp also had trouble accessing those banks' sites on Wednesday.
NYTimes (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/27/hackers-may-have-had-help-with-attacks-on-u-s-banks-researchers-say/):



Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, U.S. Bancorp, Wells Fargo and PNC all experienced disruptions and delays on their banking sites over the past week because of denial of service or DDoS attacks, in which hackers clog a Web site with data requests until it slows or collapses under the load.

A hacker group, which calls itself the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Cyber Fighters, took credit for the attacks in online posts (http://hilf-ol-fozoul.blogspot.com/2012/09/cyber-fighters-groups-statement_25.html).
Cleveland Plain Dealer (http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/09/pnc_banks_web_site_is_the_late.html):



PNC is the latest large U.S. bank targeted for a cyber attack
...Today's incident follows similar attacks this week on Wells Fargo, U.S. Bank and KeyCorp. (See Wednesday's story (http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/09/keycorp_us_bank_web_sites_hit.html#incart_river).) Last week, Chase, Bank of America and Citi were targeted. All are among the 20 largest U.S. banks. The group that claims responsibility said PNC would be next. The attacks generally last a day or two.
Reuters (http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/09/26/banks-websites-idINL1E8KQBEO20120926):



Wells Fargo website facing lingering problems
US Bancorp says working with federal officials
PNC, also threatened, says taking precautions
Fox News (http://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/2012/09/26/wells-fargo-website-hit-by-access-issues-amid-cyber-threats/):



The customer websites of Wells Fargo (WFC), PNC Bank (PNC) and US Bancorp (USB) are facing lingering slowdowns Wednesday that appear to be related to the cyber attacks that hit J.P. Morgan Chase (JPM) and Bank of America (BAC) last week.

U.S. Bancorp apologized to customers experiencing intermittent delays and said it is “working hard” to restore full connectivity.

“The issues are related to unusual and coordinated high traffic volume designed to slow down the system - similar to what other banks have experienced in the past week,” the bank’s senior vice president of corporate public relations, Tom Joyce, said in a statement to FOX Business.

Rocky_Shorz
28th September 2012, 05:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc_htdciKaM

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A Simple Human
28th September 2012, 06:00
This is consistent with the details in the original article, that state that it is now PNC's turn to be targeted.
A story by AFP (http://www.afp.com/en/news) warned of more bank attacks in an article, Islamist Group Warns of New Cyber Attacks on US Banks (http://www.securityweek.com/islamist-group-warns-new-cyber-attacks-us-banks), on September 25, 2012. The article specifically mentions PNC Bank as one target:


In a statement a group of hackers calling themselves the "Cyber Fighters of Izz al-Din al-Qassam" said they planned to attack the website of Wells Fargo bank on Tuesday, that of US Bank on Wednesday and the PNC Bank on Thursday, SITE said.

The article clearly suggests that the attacks would be carried out by an Islamist group in response to an anti-Islam film. Interestingly enough, Joe Lieberman, who is chairman of the Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, suggests that this was done by Iran and the Qods force in response to the increasingly strong economic sanctions by the United States and it's European allies. You can read those articles in full here:

Lieberman: Blame Iran for Cyber Attacks on Bank of America, Chase (http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2012/09/24/lieberman-blame-iran-for-cyber-attacks-on-bank-america-chase/) (Fox Business)

Iran is behind bank cyber attacks, Sen. Joe Lieberman believes (http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-bank-cyber-attack-iran-lieberman-20120926,0,1354311.story) (LA Times)

http://www.trbimg.com/img-50631a66/turbine/la-fi-mo-bank-cyber-attack-iran-lieberman-2012-001/600
Senate Homeland Security Chairman Joe Lieberman, second from right, after the Senate failed to pass cyber-security legislation in August. He took questions from reporters along with, from left, Sens. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), Tom Carper (D-Del.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine). (J. Scott Applewhite / Associated Press / September 26, 2012)

Notice the none too pleased reaction of Joe Lieberman, while standing alongside his good buddy Jay Rockefeller, in the above photo due to the Senate's failure to pass cyber-security legislation. Which leads me to this:


My initial reaction to this report is that it smells like a false flag denial of service, intending to spread more fear of Iranians and Muslims amongst Americans.

Not only is the cabal trying to generate contempt for Muslims amongst citizens of the USA and galvanize the military into a war with Iran, but it also appears to be an attempt at garnering the support of the populace for "cyber-security" legislation. I'm sure the cabal is working all the angles.

ThePythonicCow
28th September 2012, 06:05
My initial reaction to this report is that it smells like a false flag denial of service, intending to spread more fear of Iranians and Muslims amongst Americans.

Not only is the cabal trying to generate contempt for Muslims amongst citizens of the USA and galvanize the military into a war with Iran, but it also appears to be an attempt at garnering the support of the populace for "cyber-security" legislation. I'm sure the cabal is working all the angles.

Good point.

bluestflame
28th September 2012, 06:49
"cast the net wide" comes to mind

Referee
28th September 2012, 09:38
Slightly off topic however they have arrested the maker of the film "The Innocence of Muslims," Here is the clip. My first impression is fake.

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spiritguide
28th September 2012, 11:15
My intuition says that mossad might have it's fingers in the pie. IMHO

PHARAOH
28th September 2012, 11:30
A group of hackers calling themselves Izz ad-Din al-Qassam warned the financial industry that it was going to attack in retaliation for the controversial film "The Innocence of Muslims," which provoked outrage across the Muslim world earlier this month.

The U.S. said it suspected that hackers in Iran were also involved.

"This is the first time that we know about, where a Middle Eastern entity, perhaps a Middle Eastern government, has attacked websites, critical infrastructure, in the United States," Clarke said.

Even though hackers have not been able to steal any money during these attacks, authorities say they fear the next generation of wide-scale cyber assaults could be more devastating.

"If they get inside the banks, they can move money around and cause financial chaos," Clarke said.
My initial reaction to this report is that it smells like a false flag denial of service, intending to spread more fear of Iranians and Muslims amongst Americans.

Thank you, Paul. :lalala: :blabla: :drama: :thumb:

Flash
28th September 2012, 11:54
If it is your intuition, for me it is my logic that says the same


Spiritguide: My intuition says that mossad might have it's fingers in the pie. IMHO

totally agree with below. On one hand the movie, to spread hatred in the Middle East(and yet, I don't know how true the protest in Middle East are), on the other hand cyber attacks to spread hatred in the US.


Paul: My initial reaction to this report is that it smells like a false flag denial of service, intending to spread more fear of Iranians and Muslims amongst Americans.[/

And they are telling us the next move, as usual


Bill quotations: they fear the next generation of wide-scale cyber assaults could be more devastating.

and this too, one stone many birds, as usual


simple human: an attempt at garnering the support of the populace for "cyber-security" legislation. I'm sure the cabal is working all the angles

Again one stone, many birds, increase more the sanctions on Iran and blame them for attacking our banks, therefore creating the path of war


Simple Human: Joe Lieberman, who is chairman of the Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, suggests that this was done by Iran and the Qods force in response to the increasingly strong economic sanctions by the United States and it's European allies.

Once again, it is sooooo predictable that it is almost boring if it weren't for the disaster and suffering that it intends to spread.

How many readers is there on this forum? because in 20 posts, we found the why, what, how and most probably when. The who is supposed to be still hidden... hi hi hi.

mountain_jim
28th September 2012, 12:12
I agree that this smells like a 'false flag' with designs on incriminating Iran and creating a 'need' for further internet 'security' controls.

As a side note, after all we have learned in the last few years, I struggle to understand why anyone paying attention would still be choosing these particular Banks (Citi, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, etc.) for regular banking services, when so many smaller, less corrupt places to deposit and manage your monies exist.

I have a mortgage with CitiMortage, but that was not my choice. It was transferred to them by a different institution. I would never use these for credit services by choice either.

AriG
28th September 2012, 12:38
This might be a test of the efficacy of the "sleeping pills" we've been force fed. Let's see if it works. Should be interesting.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

GoodETxSG
28th September 2012, 13:09
I have been researching this a little for my Facebook Group on Bank and Political Corruption. Thanks for your info! I am going to add it to my site.
http://www.facebook.com/BankAndPoliticianFinancialCorruption

Bill Ryan
28th September 2012, 13:44
it would be fun to wake up and find $500,000 sitting in my bank account...

That happened to a friend of mine in the UK about ten years ago. She found she'd had £300,000 (well over half a million dollars) suddenly deposited into her account overnight. She called the bank, and it was a mistake. They were highly embarrassed.

She said the most interesting part of her story was her friends' different reactions(!). Everyone had a different suggestion about what she should have done. (My own suggestion was to have called a lawyer to see if the money was legally hers or not, and whether she would have committed a crime if she had not reported it.)

:focus:

sleepy
28th September 2012, 14:01
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Flash
28th September 2012, 14:11
They print it out of thin air Sleepy....

sleepy
28th September 2012, 14:14
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Taurean
28th September 2012, 14:16
Apparentley less than 3% of money is the actual physical folding stuff. The rest is just numbers on computers.

So don't bank on getting all your money in paper form.

DarMar
28th September 2012, 14:19
hmmm this doesn't have much sense.. what sense there is to announce attack before attack? SPECIALLY computer attack.
only one i see is to spread news about evil muslims. Imagine a boxer in ring who says to opponent: for one minute ill punch you in face, how much sense in that would be? dog which barks doesn't bite ...
it just smells as scam alot.

http://adoc.orangutancentre.org/wp-content/flagallery/yayasan-perguruan-nahdhatul-islam/dscf1616.jpg

WhiteFeather
28th September 2012, 14:19
A group of hackers calling themselves...Izz ad-Din al-Qassam

Any Scrable Players Here?

I got one....Dizziness, oops no E my bad.

sleepy
28th September 2012, 14:24
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WhiteFeather
28th September 2012, 14:25
A group of hackers calling themselves...Izz ad-Din al-Qassam

Any Scrable Players Here?

I got one....Dizziness, oops no E my bad.

If you can get to your money...Would you like to buy a vowel?

LMAO...Good Punch There!

ThePythonicCow
28th September 2012, 14:28
hmmm this doesn't have much sense.. what sense there is to announce attack before attack? SPECIALLY computer attack.
only one i see is to spread news about evil muslims. Imagine a boxer in ring who says to opponent: for one minute ill punch you in face, how much sense in that would be? dog which barks doesn't bite ...
it just smells as scam alot.
Well, yes, it smells. However pre-announcing, when you can deliver on your announcement, can be more intimidating. Imagine Mohammed Ali, in his prime, telling you (assuming you're not a champion heavy weight boxer) or me that he was going to punch you in the face in one minute. That would give us one minute to anticipate in fear having our brains severely punished.

In the case of distributed denial of service attacks, one can reasonably pre-announce such, and still be able to carry out the attacks, as apparently they have done in this case (whoever "they" are.)

sleepy
28th September 2012, 14:31
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Sidney
28th September 2012, 14:36
A group of hackers calling themselves Izz ad-Din al-Qassam warned the financial industry that it was going to attack in retaliation for the controversial film "The Innocence of Muslims," which provoked outrage across the Muslim world earlier this month.

The U.S. said it suspected that hackers in Iran were also involved.

"This is the first time that we know about, where a Middle Eastern entity, perhaps a Middle Eastern government, has attacked websites, critical infrastructure, in the United States," Clarke said.

Even though hackers have not been able to steal any money during these attacks, authorities say they fear the next generation of wide-scale cyber assaults could be more devastating.

"If they get inside the banks, they can move money around and cause financial chaos," Clarke said.
My initial reaction to this report is that it smells like a false flag denial of service, intending to spread more fear of Iranians and Muslims amongst Americans.

My thoughts exactly. Strap in everyone, the ride is about to begin.

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I was just searching some articles regarding the "attack" and this sentance stood out in this article.

"In the event of insolvency, duress or bankruptcy, the banks could use customer secured funds to assist them in repaying debts and loans. Currently Bank of America (BoA) has sold off portions of their domestic assets to secure capitol while Citigroup has followed suit."

http://occupycorporatism.com/mega-banks-plan-to-steal-your-money-and-blame-fake-muslim-cyber-attack/

Well, isn't that convenient?

OBwan
28th September 2012, 14:42
A group calling itself the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Cyber Fighters claimed responsibility per the article listed below. Their response was caused by the movie insulting the Islamic prophet Muhammad. From this story’s perspective, it was not a false flag.

By E. Scott Reckard
September 25, 2012, 9:31 p.m.

A day of disruptions in Wells Fargo & Co.'s electronic banking operations apparently was the latest in a series of cyber attacks that disrupted online operations at Bank of America Corp., Citigroup Inc. and JPMorgan Chase & Co.

A computer security expert blamed massive denial of service attacks, in which perpetrators overwhelm computer servers with communications demands, causing networks to seize up or slow down.

In a posting at Pastebin.com, a group calling itself the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Cyber Fighters claimed responsibility for last week’s outages at Bank of America, Citi, and JPMorgan before hitting Wells Fargo. It said it would attack U.S. Bancorp on Wednesday and PNC Financial Services Thursday.

The posting said the attacks would continue until a video insulting the Islamic prophet Muhammad was removed from the Internet. But computer security expert Dmitri Alperovitch, who has been investigating the attacks, said it could not be determined whether that was the actual motivation.

The posting "appears to be accurate in terms of predicting future attacks," said Alperovitch, co-founder of the security firm CrowdStrike Inc. "But I wouldn't necessarily take at face value any of its claims about attribution or the video."

"It is indeed a very large denial of service attack," Alperovitch said in an email to The Times.

The long-lasting outages at Wells drew cries of distress from many of the bank's 21 million online customers and 8.5 million mobile banking users.

"Hey, @wellsfargo.com, what's up with the website?" one disgruntled customer complained on Twitter. "GoDaddy being down is one thing. You guys being down is an entirely different thing."

The San Francisco company prides itself on being the first bank in the nation to have provided online account access, and Global Finance magazine last month named Wells the best bank offering online account access for the third year in a row.

The bank responded with apologies online, saying it was working to resolve the problems. It offered no details on how many people had been affected and, as of 9 p.m., provided no estimate of when it might have its online services restored.

"We apologize to customers who may be experiencing intermittent access issues to wellsfargo.com and online banking," the bank said in an email to The Times. "We are working to quickly resolve this issue. Customers can still access their accounts through our ATMs, stores and by phone."

Wells Fargo technology and operations spokeswoman Sara Hawkins declined to elaborate.


http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-wells-online-outage-20120925,0,1876507.story

CdnSirian
28th September 2012, 14:48
"That would give us one minute to anticipate in fear having our brains severely punished." - Paul. Absolutely a great distraction.

""In the event of insolvency, duress or bankruptcy, the banks could use customer secured funds to assist them in repaying debts and loans. Currently Bank of America (BoA) has sold off portions of their domestic assets to secure capitol while Citigroup has followed suit." - Sleepy

According to a Rolling Stone article on Mitt Romney, this is exactly how he made his millions. A business consultant, maybe he's saving B of A right now. They just laid off over ten thousand people...stock goes up for the third quarterly report! I'm sure their business consultant walked off with a huge fee, or the year end bonuses were signed and sealed.

Just a shaving off the tip of the ice berg I'm sure...

Taurean
28th September 2012, 14:49
Latest


PayPal hit by 'technical issues' over security checks

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19756523

Eram
28th September 2012, 14:51
it would be fun to wake up and find $500,000 sitting in my bank account...

That happened to a friend of mine in the UK about ten years ago. She found she'd had £300,000 (well over half a million dollars) suddenly deposited into her account overnight. She called the bank, and it was a mistake. They were highly embarrassed.

She said the most interesting part of her story was her friends' different reactions(!). Everyone had a different suggestion about what she should have done. (My own suggestion was to have called a lawyer to see if the money was legally hers or not, and whether she would have committed a crime if she had not reported it.)

:focus:

I have worked at a bank on a blue Monday some years ago and in some cases that money would have been legally hers, but the bank would have used huge pressure to get her to return the money to sender.
For instance, when someone gave orders for a bank transfer (a client of the bank) to pay an amount to a certain bank account number and he used the wrong number, didn't specify with a name and address of recipient, then the money would have been legally hers.
Would the bank have allowed her to get away with it? Highly unlikely.

ehh :focus: :becky:

Earth Angel
28th September 2012, 15:10
IF this was in fact a terrorist act against the US banks I would imagine they might do something like delete some mortgages and debts....the banks would have a hell of a time the way the sell mortgages tracking them down and following up......if however its a false flag, they just want to upset people enough without actually causing the bank to lose money ??

sleepy
28th September 2012, 15:15
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SilentFeathers
28th September 2012, 15:17
It's probably the banks doing this to themselves so they have someone/something to blame and an excuse for their already "cooked books" to be even more "cooked"....

ThePythonicCow
28th September 2012, 15:19
IF this was in fact a terrorist act against the US banks I would imagine they might do something like delete some mortgages and debts....the banks would have a hell of a time the way the sell mortgages tracking them down and following up......if however its a false flag, they just want to upset people enough without actually causing the bank to lose money ??
The current attacks are "denial of service" attacks, which can be run against any website without having any specific knowledge of security vulnerabilities of the site. Even the "big boys" of the web, such as Yahoo, have been hit with such attacks at times. All the attacker needs is control of a few thousand "zombie" PC's ... which are PC's that ban be taken control of by some virus, usually without the PC owner noticing. One can purchase blocks of such zombie PC's on the black market, so I'm told. You purchase your block, send instructions to all of them to all start sending a lot of requests to the same target website at the same time, and the target website is struggling under the load.

Actually stealing money would require breaking into the bank's website, which is quite a bit harder, and requires substantial custom effort that will vary with each bank. One could not target a "bank a day", like they are doing here.

Lone Bean
28th September 2012, 15:28
I have no doubt whatsoever that this is a false flag event. Geez! Look at who's reporting it - MAINSTREAM NEWS! It could very well be the beginning of a long banking holiday....and wow! Today is Friday. Friday would be a perfect day for the prez to announce a banking holiday but not until after the banks close and it's too late to get your money out. They need to find more funds to pay off the banksters you know, and why not blame the Middle East and start the War they've been craving so long at the same time? No election either....Obama stays in, martial law declared and the elite have taken full advantage of having the ball in their court.

sleepy
28th September 2012, 15:53
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sleepy
28th September 2012, 16:11
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sleepy
28th September 2012, 16:27
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mountain_jim
28th September 2012, 17:10
The view at http://whatreallyhappened.com/




Sep2902:24
VIRTUAL 9-11: Will Israel Hack The US Banking System Computers and Falsely Blame It On Iran?


KEEPING THIS AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE. MORE NEW STORIES BELOW.

Netanyahu didn't get any traction at the UN today. Indeed his bomb chart has become an object of ridicule in the alternative media. By now he is throwing a huge tantrum. He wants his war and Netanyahu is a man used to always getting what he wants.

There are only three things Netanyahu can do now to get the war with Iran going before the Israeli elections next month.

The first is to simply go ahead and attack Iran, expecting that the United States will protect Israel from the counter-attack even if Israel struck the first blow.

The second option is a false-flag attack somewhere in the world to be blamed on Iran, but that is a very chancy option given the video of WIMEA lobbyist Clawson actually selling the idea that a false flag to start the war with Iran is a great idea.

The third and final option, and the one I am starting to think is the most likely, relates to the sudden flurry of media stories and statements by people like Joseph Lieberman about how Iranian hackers are attacking the US financial system computers. (Senator Lieberman has also been pressuring Obama to sign an executive order to take over the internet.) Of course, the common sense approach still applies. Why would Iran, which wishes to avoid a war, do something that provocative.

But we know that the US and Israel are behind the cyber-weapons like STUXNET, DUQU, FLAME, etc., that these cyber-weapons were directed against Iran, and that one variant specifically targeted banks in Lebanon and Iran. We also know that the US financial system is stretched to the breaking point, and we know that if the government of either Greece of Spain is driven from office by angry protests, credit default swaps sold by Wall Street against those debts come due, and there is no money to pay the claims. The Euro might even collapse, and that would trigger even more Credit Default Swaps. So the final option, one that strikes me as very likely, is that Israel will take down the US financial computers, and blame it on Iran. This also gets Wall Street and Washington DC off the hook, because now the financial melt-down is an act of war, rather than the result of decades of Wall Street crime and corruption and the predations of Private Central Banks. US banks have already been hit with cyber attacks over the last two weeks, to set the stage. And this would also explain why the US corporate media has paid scant attention to the riots in Spain and Greece so that Americans still dependent on ABCNNBBCBS will remain oblivious to the fact that the Euro is falling apart.

This scenario also explains the testing of means to interfere with DNS to silence websites that may offer opposing interpretations of events (this too will be blamed on Iran).

Such a cyber false-flag also gives the US Government the excuse to take total control of the internet so that those pesky truth-seeking bloggers don't give the slaves uppity ideas that this is just another war-starting hoax like the attack on the USS Liberty or 9-11.

Between the possibility of a false-flag hack attack, or the collapse of the Eurozone, or just the continuing fraud by the US financial system, you should only have as much money in the banks as is needed to cover your outstanding obligations, and you should have the rest of your money under your own personal control in case those bank doors do not open and the ATMs stop working. PLEASE REPOST THIS THEORY TO YOUR SOCIAL NETWORKS. If we can make them doubt that the official story of a financial system computer crash will be believed by the public, we can get them to call it off! If the bank computers and alternative media do crash, the US/Israel did it!

mountain_jim
28th September 2012, 17:53
another link I got from What Really Happened

http://tipggita32.wordpress.com/2012/09/28/sen-lieberman-urges-president-obama-to-sign-executive-order-to-take-over-the-internet/




Sen. Lieberman Urges President Obama to Sign Executive Order to Take Over the Internet

September 28, 2012 by patricktech

It is more and more brazen everyday. The political establishment hates our free speech. They hate the fact they no longer have a monopoly on the flow of information nor control the news anymore. The internet and alternative media now dominates the information war. They are losing the Public relations battle where a good majority of the American people have lost faith in the government and now see them as a threat to our freedom and security as a nation.

Even the political elite Zbigneiw Brzezinski and Hillary Clinton stated they have lost the information war. That is because the internet has bypassed the main stream dinosaur media. The major news outlets and newspapers have been losing viewers and readers because they are seen as a propaganda arm. They are losing revenue and are on the verge of collapse because they cannot compete with the alternative media.

The former Democrat and now Independent Senator from Connecticut Joseph Lieberman who is a Israeli duel citizen wants war with Iran. Sen Lieberman is the head Chairmen of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs committee wants the President to sign the Executive Order to take over the Internet. The White House has sent a five page draft out to certain members of congress. Since the Authoritarians in Congress could not get Internet bills like SOPA and CISPA passed because they kill free speech using cyber-security as a Trojan horse. Since their plans have been revealed with the light of truth. Now they want bypass the Legislation process by executive order using the War Powers Act to shut down or censor the internet.

The Government, the mainstream media and the Neo-Con radio has been exposed colluding together to keep people believing in a false paradigm. Rush Limbaugh has been caught having phony phone calls into his radio show and the Media staging an incidents to sell an agenda is being blown wide open as a hoax. They cannot sell the war with Iran or Syria. The reason we are in a war in Iraq and Afghanistan has been discredited. The tactic of false flag attacks has been uncovered. The false left-right, Republican-Democrat and Liberal-Conservative two party system paradigm is falling apart.

Lets make taking over the internet an election loser like gun control. Touch our guns and the internet. They are out of office. The authoritarians in Washington need to be removed from power. They have shown their true colors, they hate freedom, the hate the right to keep and bear arms. The government taking over the internet shows they hate our free speech the most. Freedom of speech will prevail regardless how hard they try to silence us by censoring the Internet.

Our Bill of Rights and the Internet belongs to the people, it is not the governments. Do not lose heart, we are winning the fight for freedom. This tyranny is in the final death throws as their tyrannical empire is collapsing. They are desperate and panicking. The internet will stay free and always be free. Kill the internet or not. The liberty movement is unstoppable.

source link: Lonestar Watchdog

WhiteFeather
28th September 2012, 18:23
The Federal Reserve Monopoly Money printing press broke down several days ago by a Dizziness virus. So Bantam Bitch Ben Bernake had to come up with a story real quick. Hey lets blame it on Iran. We can kill 2 birds with one stone. Much like the fake plane that hit the Pentagon.

Sabrina
28th September 2012, 19:55
One take on it all:

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/09/...ntent=FaceBook

28 Sept

Mega-Banks Plan to Steal Your Money and Blame Fake Muslim Cyber Attack

Susanne Posel, Contributor
Activist Post


Senator and self-proclaimed Zionist Joseph Lieberman declared that it was Iran who cyber-attacked Bank of America and JPMorgan Chase in 2011 and began with more frequency this year. Lieberman, as the chairman of the Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee states that the financial attack was spurned from the state-sponsored anti-Muslim film circulating the Middle East thanks to CIA-operatives al-Qaeda.

Lieberman explains: “I don’t believe these were just hackers. I believe this was done by Iran and the Qods force, which has its own developing cyber-attack capacity. And I believe it was in response to the increasingly strong economic sanctions that the United States and our European allies have put on Iranian financial institutions.”

The US government is planting the propaganda seed that according to “highly classified” documents provided by the Join Chiefs of Staff’s Intelligence Directorate confirm that Iranian hackers are committing cyber-attacks against US financial institutions.

This report assures that US mega-banks are a “valid target” of the Iranian “cyber army”. However, the attackers used a known forum that is utilized by the CIA-controlled Anonymous to issue threats and brag about their successes.

The timing of the newly formed “digital al-Qaeda” and their expressed anger over the US-produced anti-Muslim film are questionable considering how the US and Israeli government are setting the stage for a justified war with Iran. This fake hacker group is threatening other countries controlled by the Zionist regime, such as France, Germany and Britain. According to the false flag group: “The army was recently formed and we have started to work as a team after we used to work individually. The hacking operations are of course a response to the offence against the prophet, peace and blessing be upon him.”


Radware, a security firm, analyzed the attacks and concluded that the alleged Iranian nameless, faceless cyber army accused to attacking BoA and JPMorgan Chase did not conduct the attack.

This week, Wells Fargo & Co. upped their cybersecurity measures after being attacked by a nameless, faceless group calling themselves Cyber Fighters of Izz ad-din Al Qassam. Wells Fargo announced in a formal statement: “We apologize to customers who may be experiencing intermittent access issues to wellsfargo.com and online banking. We are working to quickly resolve this issue.”

Customer complaints included difficulty logging-in as well as pages not loading properly.

Cyber Fighters of Izz ad-din Al Qassam claimed that their attack was retaliatory for the anti-Muslim film produced by the US government.

According to House Representative, Mike Rogers, the anti-Muslim film was released to cover the US government’s involvement in the bombing and death of US Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens at the hand of the CIA-sponsored al-Qaeda.

The film in question is actually a 14-minute trailer written, produced and directed by Sam Bacile, a.k.a. Nakoula Basseley Nakoula who is an FBI informant, an Israeli citizen and the patsy used by the Zionist regime in order to facilitate a manufactured revolt of fake Islamic tension in the Middle East.

Just as the false flag bomb threats called in by anonymous members of al-Qaeda earlier this month, this banking threat has the hallmarks of a state-sponsored false flag to unnerve the American public, mask a planned implosion of the US economy through the ultimate theft of the banking cartels: the money deposited into private checking accounts by banking customers.

On August 9th the banks were given the legal authority to steal money from their customer’s private accounts just as Jon Corzine had with MF Global with the ruling on Sentinel Management Group.

Based on the ruling, regulatory systems such as the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) and Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SPIC) will not insure customer funds, investments, depositors and retirees who hold accounts in banks. In fact, the FDIC has announced that beginning in January 2013, they will stop insuring all deposits. Of the estimated $1.6 trillion in deposits, and a measured 85-90% in the hands of the mega-banks, large depositors are expected to close their accounts due to the lack of security.

The money in deposits will be funneled through the US Treasury for short-term securities. It is expected that the US Treasury will offer negative interest rates; this combination will surely cause a run on the banks that will put Spain and Greece to shame.

Per request of the Federal Reserve Bank, in 2010 the mega-banks filed contingency plans wherein the US government could not assist them. Called resolution plans, they describe how to liquidate banking assets without causing further damage to a failing financial system. By selling “non-core assets” without upsetting shareholders while protecting the monetary system, taxpayers and creditors is the work of the mega-banks who have contributed solely to the destruction of the global financial markets.

In the event of insolvency, duress or bankruptcy, the banks could use customer secured funds to assist them in repaying debts and loans. Currently Bank of America (BoA) has sold off portions of their domestic assets to secure capitol while Citigroup has followed suit.

By adhering to initiatives provided by the Financial Stability Board, these mega-banks will, when they enact their resolution plans, coordinate with international banking institutions and regulators rather than simply implode.

While preparing for financial collapse, the technocrats on Wall Street are also acquiring firearms, ammunition and control over private mercenary corporations like DynCorp and ‘Blackwater” as authorized by the Department of Defense (DoD) directive 3025.18.

Recently, the former mortgage broker of JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley revealed that due to their involvement in the mortgage-backed securities and derivatives fraud, they are selling off their non-core assets. This means that Morgan Stanley is becoming insolvent.

The recent false flag attacks on our banks falls in line with the scenario that has been coming into view for quite some time. In America, just announcing a banking holiday would cause absolute chaos and there may not be enough armed forces within our US borders to handle the rioting in the streets. However, the banking cartels must implode the US economy in order to gain the sovereign debt – as they are currently doing in Spain and Greece.

Meanwhile, there is a Zionist plot to attack Iran over false claims of procurement of nuclear weapons that do not exist. Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu has been peddling this lie since 1992. Twenty years later, it appears that the Zionist-controlled Israeli government may just have their war with Iran along with the “unwavering support” of the US government.

Framing Iran for the American banking system’s computer failure kills two birds with one stone. Not only would the banking cartels be able to shut down all banking computers (and simultaneously syphon the remaining money in their customers' accounts) but also use this fake cyber-attack to engage the American public against Iran and justify their highly anticipated military strike.

By blaming Iran, the technocrats could initiate the shutdown of all domestic banking computer systems in order to “purge” the virus and reconfigure their systems. However, this would be a false flag meant to pacify the public to avert mass panic. While the general public would fall for the cover story, the banking cartels would simply electronically transfer all customer funds from private checking accounts out to off-shore banks where they could not be touched and cover their tracks.

The American public, being told that Iran was to blame might not riot in the streets as we have seen in European countries of late. There would be total support for the war with Iran if this scheme could be pulled off. The technocrats could not only bankrupt America but also simultaneously stave off a social display and breakdown of society because the Iranians would be to blame.

The plan is perfect. All we have to do is not be fooled and use the recent riots in Spain as a barometer as to how we can take this country back from the Zionists and the banking cartels.

Susanne Posel is the Chief Editor of Occupy Corporatism. Our alternative news site is dedicated to reporting the news as it actually happens; not as it is spun by the corporately funded mainstream media. You can find us on our Facebook page.

araucaria
28th September 2012, 20:19
it would be fun to wake up and find $500,000 sitting in my bank account...

That happened to a friend of mine in the UK about ten years ago. She found she'd had £300,000 (well over half a million dollars) suddenly deposited into her account overnight. She called the bank, and it was a mistake. They were highly embarrassed.

She said the most interesting part of her story was her friends' different reactions(!). Everyone had a different suggestion about what she should have done. (My own suggestion was to have called a lawyer to see if the money was legally hers or not, and whether she would have committed a crime if she had not reported it.)

:focus:

I had the same experience from the other side. The last time I sold a house, the entire proceeds were transferred to the account of a namesake. Fortunately I was paying attention :)

Rantaak
28th September 2012, 23:06
D.O.S? Smells like Anonymous.

Blame it on the Muslims? Smells like false flag.

How do you kill two birds with one stone? Break the morale of Anonymous by blaming it on the Muslims thus perpetuating religious animosity.

No matter what they do, we move that much closer to a Gold Standard and that much farther from a faulty vapor paper system. I'm still voting for Sauron.

ThePythonicCow
28th September 2012, 23:40
No matter what they do, we move that much closer to a Gold Standard and that much farther from a faulty vapor paper system.
The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend, if he is more closely related to my enemy.

That a Gold Standard opposes the faulty vapor paper system doesn't mean I welcome the Gold Standard.

That depends on who owns the gold ... us or them. If the bastards in power own most of the gold (much of it off the public record, perhaps), then a Gold Standard is just another way for them to leverage further up their control of humanity.

DevilPigeon
29th September 2012, 00:02
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Everyone with a brain knows that the world's financial meltdown has been caused by & manipulated by - to a major degree - the big banks/corporations, in collusion with select world governments. It's a matter of time before the whole thing collapses finally, every fiat currency that has ever been has ultimately suffered the same fate. When the time comes, these same banks/corporations/governments should rightly be held to account.

This latest development I believe has been orchestrated to divert blame to an otherwise blameless patsy. And the sad thing? People will fall for it. If this is the trigger to cause the thing to collapse, some "rogue" nation will get the blame, and then the banks/governments that are actually to blame will step in to point the finger where it doesn't deserve to be pointed, and no doubt will offer "solutions" to either get out of the mess or to start a whole new cycle of unsustainable currency.

buckminster fuller
29th September 2012, 00:10
Funny Goldman Sachs is not in the list, they always are a step ahead... I wonder why..

ThePythonicCow
29th September 2012, 00:24
Funny Goldman Sachs is not in the list, they always are a step ahead... I wonder why..

Goldman Sachs is not a major retail banking player in the USA. Here's their list of retail banking locations (from http://www.usbanklocations.com/goldman-sachs-bank-usa-locations.htm):

Dallas, TX 75201
Salt Lake City, UT 84101
Jersey City, NJ 07302
New York, NY 10282
Boston, MA 02110

That's it - just five of them. So I wouldn't expect them to be a major target for "retail banking terrorist operations" or whatever this operation was.

(They do have private wealth management offices in a few more cities, listed here: http://www.goldmansachs.com/what-we-do/investment-management/private-wealth-management/offices/offices-main-page.html)

buckminster fuller
29th September 2012, 00:51
You're right, they have more business in finances at large. I just think they're on top of the monopoly and that they always reap something out of simingly cataclisms, when they're not the ones pushing things. I'm betting a war with Iran would represent a few good opportunities for them.



Funny Goldman Sachs is not in the list, they always are a step ahead... I wonder why..

Goldman Sachs is not a major retail banking player in the USA. Here's their list of retail banking locations (from http://www.usbanklocations.com/goldman-sachs-bank-usa-locations.htm):

Dallas, TX 75201
Salt Lake City, UT 84101
Jersey City, NJ 07302
New York, NY 10282
Boston, MA 02110

That's it - just five of them. So I wouldn't expect them to be a major target for "retail banking terrorist operations" or whatever this operation was.

(They do have private wealth management offices in a few more cities, listed here: http://www.goldmansachs.com/what-we-do/investment-management/private-wealth-management/offices/offices-main-page.html)

mosquito
29th September 2012, 01:52
IF this was in fact a terrorist act against the US banks I would imagine they might do something like delete some mortgages and debts....the banks would have a hell of a time the way the sell mortgages tracking them down and following up......if however its a false flag, they just want to upset people enough without actually causing the bank to lose money ??
The current attacks are "denial of service" attacks, which can be run against any website without having any specific knowledge of security vulnerabilities of the site. Even the "big boys" of the web, such as Yahoo, have been hit with such attacks at times. All the attacker needs is control of a few thousand "zombie" PC's ... which are PC's that ban be taken control of by some virus, usually without the PC owner noticing. One can purchase blocks of such zombie PC's on the black market, so I'm told. You purchase your block, send instructions to all of them to all start sending a lot of requests to the same target website at the same time, and the target website is struggling under the load.

Actually stealing money would require breaking into the bank's website, which is quite a bit harder, and requires substantial custom effort that will vary with each bank. One could not target a "bank a day", like they are doing here.

Agreed. Another point is that the real meaty computing takes place on enterprise systems (what used to be called mainframes), which are not hackable in the sense that a teenager can sit at a PC and just access the system, despite what Hollywood wants you to believe ! If it was going to happen, it would have happened loooong ago, and it would't have been "terrorists", it would have been people with the know how.

sigma6
29th September 2012, 19:21
Another angle that this serves:

Too many people are finding financial freedom and making huge money from the internet, you know what happens when too many people find financial freedom, especially when they are NON freemason aligned, NON wall street aligned, NON western people? who find too much financial freedom....
learning how to make money like the "rich" do ... ie. leveraging other people's efforts, residual, copyright license, publishing, etc...
the scumbag banking families pyramid control structure becomes threatened and exposed...

that Rockefeller scumbag is still trying to put controls on what was a free public resource, paid for with public funds, what a scumbag, what a piece of human crap...
they want to control it, but I don't think they have the full technological capability to do so right now... that's the problem for them right now,

so they can only impose controls, policing systems, try to upset the stability, always in preparation, until their trillions can produce the technology...
(which I don't think is going to happen for quite some time yet...) this is a most serious false flag attack on net freedom...

If I am correct they will start announcing more internet controls, higher costs, tax schemes, or mentally preparing us for the justification to do so...

sigma6
29th September 2012, 19:25
it would be fun to wake up and find $500,000 sitting in my bank account...

That happened to a friend of mine in the UK about ten years ago. She found she'd had £300,000 (well over half a million dollars) suddenly deposited into her account overnight. She called the bank, and it was a mistake. They were highly embarrassed.

She said the most interesting part of her story was her friends' different reactions(!). Everyone had a different suggestion about what she should have done. (My own suggestion was to have called a lawyer to see if the money was legally hers or not, and whether she would have committed a crime if she had not reported it.)

:focus:

I have worked at a bank on a blue Monday some years ago and in some cases that money would have been legally hers, but the bank would have used huge pressure to get her to return the money to sender.
For instance, when someone gave orders for a bank transfer (a client of the bank) to pay an amount to a certain bank account number and he used the wrong number, didn't specify with a name and address of recipient, then the money would have been legally hers.
Would the bank have allowed her to get away with it? Highly unlikely.

ehh :focus: :becky:

She should have put a down payment on a house and put aside funds for an expensive lawyer as a backup,

Rocky_Shorz
30th September 2012, 02:31
I'd offer to leave the money in the account if they gave me a percentage of the 40-1 hypothication, which would have paid back the $500K in a few months...

oh wait we aren't supposed to know that game... ;)


Ponzi can be fun, if you're too big to jail...

sigma6
30th September 2012, 11:24
problem is they will remove it as soon as they discover their error... but if you used it, they could never prove they loaned you anything.... since they didn't.

I remember a case when we were working on being issued checks to put toward home purchases that were going to be put into a private trust.

One lady got so far as depositing it in her bank and paid off $20,000 in CC's, before they starting raising questions... they took the money out and tried to go after her for the cards. She demanded to know why were they dishonouring the cheque. They never got the money back from the cards and never moved against her on them either... interesting...

ThePythonicCow
1st October 2012, 01:02
Alex Jones (Infowars.com) has an article on this cyberattack on US banks. Here's the main stream ABC news video report they include:

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And here's what Inforwars.com say about this here (http://www.infowars.com/cyber-attack-on-us-banks-is-an-obvious-false-flag/):



Over a month ago we featured an article titled The NWO Agenda Would Move Forward with This One Simple Act, which stated the one event that could accomplish all of the agenda’s goals in one shot would be “a false flag cyber attack on Western banking institutions that they can pin on Iran.”

With President Obama ready to sign an executive order to control the Internet in the name of cyber security, could it be more obvious that this “cyber attack” is a total set up? Especially since all versions of Internet control legislation have failed to pass in normal government channels bothdomestically and internationally.

Are we expected to believe that sophisticated Muslim hacktivists attacked US banks because they were angry about a movie that was produced in America? That’d be like attacking Afghanistan or Iraq after 15 Saudis supposedly attacked us, ohh wait…that did happen.

Is this really the best story they can come up with? It was so predictable that it makes it that much more laughable. But the motive being pinned on the pathetic anti-Muslim movie is the real kicker.

It’s sad to see Richard Clark in the video above actually take this seriously. Talk about an establishment sellout.

I call major bull**** on this story. It stinks to high heaven. What do you think?

sandy
1st October 2012, 04:12
I can smell the B. S. all the way into North Western Canada it is so strong!! :p

Jean-Luc
1st October 2012, 13:44
Nice 4 minutes preventive video to be shared to avoid this to happen.


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xtyixj_possible-false-flag-cyber-attaque-financiere_news

CD7
1st October 2012, 13:45
Something such as this...i would very much suspect an inside job

People who work in IT....do u know how compartmentalized the internet banking system is?

I know someone who works for IT in banks.....the system is HIGHLY COMPARTMENTALIZED...a hacker being able to break through ALL barriers..lol-----inside job

sleepy
1st October 2012, 14:05
xxxxx xxxxx

CD7
1st October 2012, 14:29
Every FACET of ourselves has been taken over...we are conditioned from drop out....WHY DO WE CONTINUE TO HASH OVER THINGS THAT ALREADY ARE....these articles crack me up

Hummmmm do we really need more control?? you mean were not brainwashed enough??? OUR FREEDOM HAS ALREADY BEEN COMPROMISED A LONG TIME AGO....

The only purpose of such writings is to keep the anxiety going...perpetuate fear everlasting KEEP THE GAME GOING

The deeds have been done...ALL tht stands now is the cycling RETURN of whats been put out WILL come back to its senders

sleepy
1st October 2012, 15:13
xxxxx xxxxx

CD7
1st October 2012, 19:05
QUOTE=sleepy;562529]Christinedream7,

“Every FACET of ourselves has been taken over...”

Respectfully, I disagree. I have free will and every aspect of myself has not been taken over.


Is there any place on the globe where humans live free? There shelter is Free? Food is Free? (im not referring to people who scrape to survive in the wild) I cant think of any..if there are, most likely unknown to the masses.....can u be WHOEVER you want..do what you really want to do? Do you work for your OWN household and not someone else?
When i say this, im thinking along these lines...in the PHYSICAL REALM...majority of the population on this globe would answer no to many of these questions....when humanity is living in these conditions, they are not truly free...you are entitled to disagree and respect your input

I agree that our freedom has been compromised but I believe knowledge is power. Hummmmm i would think knowledge would be power too! let me know when you come across some that truly benefits humanity at large

While the orders are frightening… I am not afraid. I have never bought into any of the doomsday scenarios that have been put forth. People have been predicting the end of the world, the financial end, the end of America for years and guess what? We are still here.

I know, exactly!

That doesn’t mean that I have not been prudent in getting out of debt, learning to grow and preserve my own food and taking what I deem to be necessary steps. It has actually made me live a better life. No consumer debt relieves so much stress and I feel much better not paying interest to the bankers. Gardening and canning is a great hobby and it is one less GMO that does not go in my body.

I agree...did some of these things years ago...canned goods going bad now, not to say all in vein and nothing is going to happen

Information is just information. I don’t find it humorous nor do I want to put my head in the sand. I am glad the article gave you a good laugh. It is good to keep a sense of humor.
I did not share the article to keep anxiety going. If in fact the internet will be compromised there may be necessary, prudent, steps that should be taken to back up data, find ways of staying in touch and other things I feel I should do to be prepared in case one day I can’t log on to my computer. It doesn't make me anxious but it does make me think.

This is more geared towards the information and not you personally, i think any "alternative" forum member who has been associated with these sites for years every now and then has the, OH GAWD not this again reaction, Guilty! After a while when a person does whtever they can or desire too to plan for survival..whats the point after that? Its a continuation of anxiety PLAIN AND SIMPLE

sleepy[/QUOTE]

OBwan
10th October 2012, 13:19
Source: http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/security/3403703/rsa-cybercriminals-plot-massive-banking-trojan-attack/


RSA: Cybercriminals plot massive banking Trojan attack

Gang plans to use sophisticated malware to initiate illegal wire transfers


An international gang of cyber crooks is plotting a major campaign to steal money from the online accounts of thousands of consumers at 30 or more major US banks, security firm RSA warned.

If successful, the effort could turn out to be one of the largest organized banking-Trojan operations to date, Mor Ahuvia, cybercrime communications specialist with RSA's FraudAction team, said today. The gang is now recruiting about 100 botmasters, each of whom would be responsible for carrying out Trojan attacks against US banking customers in return for a share of the loot, she said.

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Each botmaster will be backed by an "investor" who will provide money to buy the hardware and software needed for the attacks, Ahuvia said.

"This is the first time we are seeing a financially motivated cyber crime operation being orchestrated at this scale," Ahivia said. "We have seen DDoS attacks and hacking before. But we have never seen it being organized at this scale."

RSA's warning comes at a time when US banks are already on high alert. Over the past two weeks, the online operations of several major banks, including JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Citigroup and Wells Fargo were disrupted by what appeared to be coordinated denial-of-service attacks.

A little-known group called "Cyber fighters of Izz ad-din Al qassam" claimed credit for the attacks, but some security experts think a nation may have been behind the campaign because of the scale and organized nature of the attacks.

In mid-September, the Financial Services Information Sharing and Analysis Center (FS-ISAC) warned banks to be on guard against cyberattackers seeking to steal employee network login credentials to conduct extensive wire transfer fraud. Specifically, the alert warned banks to watch out for hackers using spam, phishing emails, Remote Access Trojans and keystroke loggers to try and pry loose bank employee usernames and passwords.

FS-ISAC also noted that the FBI had seen a new trend where cyber criminals use stolen bank employee credentials to transfer hundreds of thousands of dollars from customer accounts to overseas locations.

Over the past few years, cyber crooks have siphoned off millions of dollars from small businesses, school districts and local governments by stealing online usernames and passwords and using those credentials to make the transfers.

The latest discussion suggests that they now have individual consumer accounts in their crosshairs, Ahuvia said, warning that the gang plans to attempt to infiltrate computers in the US with a little known Trojan malware program called Gozi Prinimalka.

The malware is an updated version of a much older banking Trojan, Gozi, which was used by cyber criminals to steal millions of dollars from US banks. The group's plan apparently is to plant the Trojan program on numerous websites and to infect computers when users visit those sites.

The Trojan is triggered when the user of an infected computer types out certain words -- such as the name of a specific bank -- into a URL string.

Unlike the original Gozi, the new version is capable not only of communicating with a central command-and-control server but also of duplicating the victim's PC settings. The Trojan essentially supports a virtual machine cloning feature that can duplicate the infected PC's screen resolutions, cookies, time zone, browser type and version and other settings. That allow the attacker to access a victim's bank website using a computer that appears to have the infected PC's real IP address and other settings, Ahuvia said.

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"Impersonated victims' accounts will thus be accessed via a SOCKS proxy connection installed on their infected PCs, enabling the cloned virtual system to take on the genuine IP address when accessing the bank's website," she said in her alert.

Victims of fraudulent wire transfers will not immediately know of the theft because the gang plans on using VoIP flooding software to prevent victims from getting bank notifications on their mobile devices, she added.

Consumers need to ensure that their browsers are properly updated to protect against drive by downloads, she said. They also need to watch for any suspicious behavior or transactions on their accounts.

RSA has also notified US law enforcement and its own FraudAction Global Blocking Network about the threat, she said. Banks, meanwhile, should consider implementing stronger authentication procedures and anomaly detection tools for spotting unusual wire transfers.

ThePythonicCow
10th October 2012, 15:59
A little-known group called "Cyber fighters of Izz ad-din Al qassam" claimed credit for the attacks, but some security experts think a nation may have been behind the campaign because of the scale and organized nature of the attacks.
Aw shucks ... ya think maybe?