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another bob
28th September 2012, 15:27
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http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0927/Bizarre-2012-earthquake-signals-birth-of-world-s-newest-tectonic-plate

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21528843.500-earth-cracking-up-under-in...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/7743359/Big-quakes-tearing-tectonic-boundary

Ba-ba-Ra
28th September 2012, 18:02
Thanks Bob, For me the big words in all of these articles are: No Precedent in Recorded History.

In other words: Expect the unexpected. Every where I look I'm seeing Mother Nature challenging our current scientific belief systems. Our planet is breaking up and responding in ways never anticipated. Perhaps in some way it is reflecting the growth and shifts in human consciousness. Just a thought.

another bob
28th September 2012, 18:35
Thanks Bob, For me the big words in all of these articles are: No Precedent in Recorded History.

In other words: Expect the unexpected. Every where I look I'm seeing Mother Nature challenging our current scientific belief systems. Our planet is breaking up and responding in ways never anticipated. Perhaps in some way it is reflecting the growth and shifts in human consciousness. Just a thought.

Good point, and I suppose we should not be surprised that any discussion on the implications of this have been almost totally avoided by the MSM, save for a mention in the links attached above. That will likely change in the immediate future, given the mounting earth changes based on the tectonic phenomena, when it is no longer possible to bury the head in the sand of escapist pop culture and political poopadoodle.

Bill Ryan
28th September 2012, 18:38
Qike7NiF_rQ

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0927/Bizarre-2012-earthquake-signals-birth-of-world-s-newest-tectonic-plate

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21528843.500-earth-cracking-up-under-in...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/7743359/Big-quakes-tearing-tectonic-boundary

Listening now... Dutchsinse at his best. Recommended.

Hervé
28th September 2012, 18:42
The trouble with that so-called "New Tectonic Plate" is that, being a strike-slip motion along old transform faults, there is no subduction nor over-thrusting... hence NO plate!

greybeard
28th September 2012, 19:05
The trouble with that so-called "New Tectonic Plate" is that, being a strike-slip motion along old transform faults, there is no subduction nor over-thrusting... hence NO plate!

Hi Amzer-Zo could you expand on that?
Is Dutchinsense talking rubbish or not?

Regards Chris

Hervé
28th September 2012, 20:26
Is Dutchinsense talking rubbish or not.

Regards Chris

Short answer: YES!

Long answer:

These were "intra-plate" quakes. When you distort a large slab by differential motion of one of its side with respect to another, you create stress within that slab which, ultimately, result in cracks developing within that slab but it still remains the same slab.


Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intraplate_earthquake):
An intraplate earthquake is an earthquake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake) that occurs in the interior of a tectonic plate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tectonic_plate), whereas an interplate earthquake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplate_earthquake) is one that occurs at a plate boundary.
Intraplate earthquakes are very rare. Interplate earthquakes, which occur at plate boundaries, are more common. Nonetheless, very large intraplate earthquakes can inflict heavy damage, particularly because such areas are not accustomed to earthquakes and buildings are usually not seismically retrofitted (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seismic_retrofitting). Notable examples of damaging intraplate earthquakes are the devastating Gujarat earthquake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Gujarat_earthquake) in 2001, the 1811-1812 earthquakes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1812_New_Madrid_earthquake) in New Madrid, Missouri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Madrid,_Missouri), and the 1886 earthquake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1886_Charleston_earthquake) in Charleston, South Carolina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleston,_South_Carolina).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intraplate_earthquake#cite_note-0)

In this case, the slab is called "Indian-Australian plate." A tectonic plate is bounded by rift zones, subductions zones and transform fault zones usually connecting two segments of a rift zone.

That's all there is to it.

Ba-ba-Ra
28th September 2012, 20:58
After reading the article below, it seems fair to say that scientists are not in agreement and/or are changing how they view earthquakes based on what happened off India in April.


Rare Great Earthquake in April Triggers Large Aftershocks All Over the Globe

In a study published in this week's issue of "Nature," USGS seismologist Fred Pollitz and colleagues analyzed the unprecedented increase in global seismic activity triggered by the Magnitude-8.6 East Indian Ocean quake of April 11, 2012, and in a recently published study in the "Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences," seismologist Volkan Sevilgen and his USGS colleagues investigated the near-cessation of seismic activity up to 250 miles away caused by the 2004 M9.2 Sumatra earthquake.

While aftershocks have traditionally been defined as those smaller earthquakes that happen after and nearby the main fault rupture, scientists now recognize that this definition is wrong. Instead, aftershocks are simply earthquakes of any size and location that would not have taken place had the main shock not struck.

For complete article: http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Rare_Great_Earthquake_in_April_Triggers_Large_Aftershocks_All_Over_the_Globe_999.html

doodah
28th September 2012, 21:29
The Earth is expanding; the planet is getting bigger. It's happened before, several times.

Hughe
28th September 2012, 21:38
Simplified version of Earth expansion
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http://nealadams.com/index.php/science/read-watch-learn

WhiteFeather
28th September 2012, 23:04
Mother is undergoing her birthing/labor process.....if you will. Im sure she and all her beautiful creations on earth will be just fine.

Good read here:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_consciousuniverse64.htm

ghostrider
29th September 2012, 03:17
The thinking and energy and attitudes of the human race influence the earth , causing severe storms , quakes, and the like. we live in the words and thoughts we say and think. When will humanity wake up and realize the change needed comes from us changing our attitudes towards earth, stop cutting down trees, which make air we need to breath, polluting water , which we need to drink, and live in harmony with each other and our earth. Dammit we only have ONE planet to live on. We should never take anything out of the ground , let someone drill and take blood out your body see how long you go before you react to defend your existence in the cosmos. The answer to all the troubles lays in us and our thinking and actions staying in balance with nature. :wizard:

astrid
29th September 2012, 06:31
http://www.croatiantimes.com/news/Around_the_World/2012-04-15/26423/Quake_Expert:_Earth_Cracking_Up

"A leading earthquake scientist has warned that the planet could be cracking up after a series of massive quakes in just 48 hours.

Expert Gheorghe Marmureanu - from Romania's National Institute of Earth Physics - says 39 quakes had hit the globe within two days.

The series started with two massive quakes in Indonesia measuring 8.6 and 8.2 on the Richter scale rapidly followed by three more only slightly smaller in Mexico within hours.

"There is no doubt that something is seriously wrong. There have been too many strong earthquakes," said Marmureanu.

He added: "The quakes are a surprise that cannot be easily explained by current scientific knowledge. With the Indonesian quake for example,
statistically, there should be one big earthquake in this part of Asia every 500 years. However, since 2004, there were already three quakes with a magnitude of over 8, which is not normal. "

( not a new article, but related to this discussion )

Cristian
29th September 2012, 06:55
Croatian Scientist Says Earth Is Ripping Apart


There was no croatian scientist quoted in that article. Gheorghe Marmureanu never said " Earth Is Ripping Apart " . He just said “There is no doubt that something is seriously wrong. There have been too many strong earthquakes,”

Just to keep things clear. :)

astrid
29th September 2012, 07:36
Yeo, you are right, i edited it.
I followed another link with that title..

Apologies

DarMar
29th September 2012, 13:48
ummmmm... Croatian quake expert?
Even i had installed one win sidebar thingy that showed quakes arround world and there was alot of them, had those because of enormous count of them in north part of Italy. But that info on that weird page is also weird to me. His name was not mentioned and referencing like that has little to no credibility to me.
But in Italy quake is result of gold mining activity, they activated long forgotten gold mine and got natural response of moving plates.
In south america is happening same thing .. http://business.financialpost.com/2011/10/12/gold-mining-becoming-more-dangerous-than-cocaine-to-columbia/
same in Mexico http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303734204577466642703537400.html


High gold prices are compelling companies to start mining more aggressively
Seems that moar gold to hungry ones resulted in instability of mother earth surface a bit.

Ba-ba-Ra
29th September 2012, 16:38
The thinking and energy and attitudes of the human race influence the earth , causing severe storms , quakes, and the like. we live in the words and thoughts we say and think. When will humanity wake up and realize the change needed comes from us changing our attitudes towards earth, stop cutting down trees, which make air we need to breath, polluting water , which we need to drink, and live in harmony with each other and our earth. Dammit we only have ONE planet to live on. We should never take anything out of the ground , let someone drill and take blood out your body see how long you go before you react to defend your existence in the cosmos. The answer to all the troubles lays in us and our thinking and actions staying in balance with nature. :wizard:


Ghostrider, you are so right on. I felt a strong kinship to your words and hope others are hearing them at a deep level. It seems to me that in my country so many are either allowing their emotions to whip them around or are so numb (from drugs, prescription and otherwise, electronics, etc) they're no longer capable of thinking.

ghostrider
30th September 2012, 02:02
The thinking and energy and attitudes of the human race influence the earth , causing severe storms , quakes, and the like. we live in the words and thoughts we say and think. When will humanity wake up and realize the change needed comes from us changing our attitudes towards earth, stop cutting down trees, which make air we need to breath, polluting water , which we need to drink, and live in harmony with each other and our earth. Dammit we only have ONE planet to live on. We should never take anything out of the ground , let someone drill and take blood out your body see how long you go before you react to defend your existence in the cosmos. The answer to all the troubles lays in us and our thinking and actions staying in balance with nature. :wizard:


Ghostrider, you are so right on. I felt a strong kinship to your words and hope others are hearing them at a deep level. It seems to me that in my country so many are either allowing their emotions to whip them around or are so numb (from drugs, prescription and otherwise, electronics, etc) they're no longer capable of thinking.

I am learning so much from ptaah and Billy Meier's conversations, his words ring true about the earth and humans and their thoughts affecting our environment.