Sun Worship

[Fred Steeves]

I keep passing by churches, of varying denominations, who when advertising for Sunday services on their front board, it comes out as this. It's just a typical little Baptist Church right down the road from us, and I have to smile and shake my head a little every time I pass it.

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Has anyone else been noticing this? I know "Sun Worship" is just short for "Sunday Worship", but really?(LOL) Is average clergy really that ignorant, that non-observant, or maybe even some up to hanky panky dark stuff on the side? Dunno, likely a varying mix of all three, with emphasis tending towards ignorance.

As a side note, even if this is in total innocence, it's a stark example of "hidden in plain sight". I guarantee you not one parishoner has ever noticed. This would be exactly how it's done.

Cheers All,
Fred

[another bob]

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My first reaction to the sign was to picture a lot of Christians in bathing suits lounging around on the lawn, while the pastor pitches the virtues of the right sun lotion, and children play off to the side on Slip n' Slides . . .


Here's another to ponder:


http://i49.tinypic.com/28hdj6w.jpg

[Mark]

LOL Good point. Immediately reminded me of teaching World Geography classes and showing this segment of Zeitgeist:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWX53mMWapg

It also reminded me of chasing after the fundamentalist Christians who would invariably leave the classroom during this segment of the movie. Or, of explaining myself to the Department head later when they stayed in the classroom but made a beeline for the main office to complain about me and what I was teaching right after class.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Sun worshippers? Pagans! Heretics! Buuuuuurn them!!!

Nice one Fred. Made me smile mate :)

[13th Warrior]

Truth in advertising!

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Another one... Just for fun, please don't let anyone be offended :)

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[Fred Steeves]

My first reaction to the sign was to picture a lot of Christians in bathing suits lounging around on the lawn, while the pastor pitches the virtues of the right sun lotion, and children play off to the side on Slip n' Slides . . .


Here's another to ponder:


http://i49.tinypic.com/28hdj6w.jpg

Nice touch Bob, and it's good to see you back in the mix!

"Beware Of God" http://www.bigtenfever.com/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif

Cheers,
Fred

[WhiteFeather]

Dont forget that George Carlin Video on God Fred. He does mention if he worships anything he would worship the sun.
Im watching it now. Ill post the time interval in a few.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPOfurmrjxo

[WhiteFeather]

It starts at 3:20 on the Carlin video. Worshipping the sun....... And LMFAO

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I also noticed the below phrase on the sign Fred. "Awana wed". I got.....I want a wedding now or its over Henry.

[ghostrider]

its all based on sun worship, the sun rising over the east star, the sun the light of the world , people with near death experiences say I saw a bright light, and such. Jordan maxwell can take you into a large world about sun worship and the past. Religion always takes personal responsibility away from the person and tosses it to a God, who's only pre=occupation with eternity is how is the day treating the tiny humans who mostly ignore him/her. they always look out somewhere, instead of what he told us directly , lo the kingdom of God is within you. The spirit inside you is creation/God. The only thing religion is usefull for is starting wars.

[Krullenjongen]

Hey Fred, What's the purpose of this thread?
Is it having some fun or just a "thinly veiled" christian faith bassing thread or are you that unfamiliar with english abbreviations?

.....and a good researcher would go in and find out what or who they are worshipping :wink:

[Finefeather]

Hi Fred
Don't forget the real instinctive 'worship' of the sun, which is to charge the 'batteries' with life force.
My cats spend the first few hours of their morning soaking up the sun and they hav'nt been near a church for ages :)

Love you all
Ray

[Fred Steeves]

Hey Fred, What's the purpose of this thread?

Hi Krullenjongen, the purpose of this thread was wondering how clergy, to whom people trust their souls, can be ignorant of what they are presenting in their advertising.



Is it having some fun or just a "thinly veiled" christian faith bassing
thread


No, that's not the way I roll.


or are you that unfamiliar with english abbreviations?

Yes, once again, as I stated in the OP, I know SUN is short for SUNDAY. But in English abbreviations, you end it with a period. (SUN.) Otherwise, you are literally saying the word sun, thus sun worship. Now I'm no pedant, but this would seem a rather important distinction to not overlook, wouldn't you think?





.....and a good researcher would go in and find out what or who they are worshipping :wink:


I regularly attended church for many years, through many different denominations, and even attended Baptist Christian School for 6th, 7th, and 8th grades. I know exactly what's going on inside. Research concluded.http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/nod.gif

Cheers,
Fred

[PurpleLama]

in the outer mystery we fear hell and our own sinful nature, and we think of christ as a man named jesus who came to die to save us

within the inner mystery we understand the analogy of the solar cross, something the prophets well understand, when the master said take up your cross and follow me it wasn't an invitation to proceed to be sacrificed or martyred it was an invitation it put on the holy halo of light that shines god's love on everything everywhere we go, we understand that a man named jesus came with a light called christ that shined on the path and showed us the way

it's a bit off topic, I know, I was initially going post a tongue in cheek reply to keep with the spirit if the thread, but a different spirit moved instead, so I put this here for our friends like kj and "kreagle"

:cheers:

[PurpleLama]

I will add, to point to the last book of the old testament, the last of the prophets before came John the Baptist, it does clearly say in most all translations

In the Day of the Lord, the Sun of Righteousness will rise with healing in it's wings....

[Billy]

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Synchronizing here. I am reading a book titled "SUN AND CROSS" about pre Roman Celtic Irish and Scottish Christians. How the symbol of the Sun was carried on the Celtic crosses even after it became the Roman Catholic Church.

Peace

[kreagle]

PurpleLama,

Greetings brother!,....


it's a bit off topic, I know, I was initially going post a tongue in cheek reply to keep with the spirit if the thread, but a different spirit moved instead, so I put this here for our friends like kj and "kreagle"



Thanks, for your 'thoughtfulness', friend. I see, in a round-about-way, that my 'reputation must precede me!' ;)



I will add, to point to the last book of the old testament, the last of the prophets before came John the Baptist, it does clearly say in most all translations

In the Day of the Lord, the Sun of Righteousness will rise with healing in it's wings....


Here is the 'passage' to which you are referring to,.....

Malachi 4:1-3 (KJV)

4 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts.


If properly taken in 'context' the reader will see, here, that this passage is referring to 'solar activity' and it's influence upon the Earth. The Lord will, indeed, use the 'sun' as an instrument of His righteousness,....hence, the term 'Sun of righteousness'. It goes on to relate that this 'extreme heat' will,......'burn as an oven', etc. Without trying to be 'negative', here, it does go on to relate how this 'extreme heat' affects the 'proud and the wicked', while those who 'fear, (respect), my name',.....will experience something 'entirely different!'


With this, I turn back to the 'topic',.....and by the way, Fred, I agree that 'someone' needs to be much more 'careful and thoughtful' with the 'message they convey!'


Your brother, friend, and servant,........kreagle

[Billy]

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Another bill board for the thread.

:grouphug:

[another bob]

http://i50.tinypic.com/2qib3he.jpg

[leavesoftrees]

Have you heard of Gregory Sams. He has written a book called Sun of god

he has a website

http://www.sunofgod.net/

you can find interviews with him on RedIce and Veritas

[RunningDeer]

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Notices/Project-Avalon-Family.JPG

[Krullenjongen]

Hi Krullenjongen, the purpose of this thread was wondering how clergy, to whom people trust their souls, can be ignorant of what they are presenting in their advertising.


It seems a bit silly to me to think that the board at this church advertises sun worship. I think 99% of the people passing this sign will not think that. And if someone knows just a little bit about the christian faith they KNOW they don't mean that.
I bet the people who put up this sign never even thought it could be seen or explained in the way that you imply.
By the way, on what day is the service?


I regularly attended church for many years, through many different denominations, and even attended Baptist Christian School for 6th, 7th, and 8th grades. I know exactly what's going on inside. Research concluded.http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/nod.gif

And you still think this is about sun worship???
Come on Fred, i know you are more educated than that!
The bible doesn't say very much about sun worship except that many of the peoples around the hebrew people in that time worshiped the sun and that God expressly says not to do like those peoples and forbade to worship the sun, moon or stars.



within the inner mystery we understand the analogy of the solar cross, something the prophets well understand, when the master said take up your cross and follow me it wasn't an invitation to proceed to be sacrificed or martyred it was an invitation it put on the holy halo of light that shines god's love on everything everywhere we go

Well i can't think of any biblical verses that support this argument, if you have any i am very interested.
But i think i have heard of this explanation but it was most likely an explanaiting from the ancient mystery schools. A lot af strange explanaitions come from there. I'm thinking of jordan maxwells explanation that the manna the hebrew people ate was not bread but mushrooms.


In the Day of the Lord, the Sun of Righteousness will rise with healing in it's wings....

Yes you are very right it does say that but "sun of rightiousness" is just one of the names that refers to Jesus in the bible.
Jesus has many "nicknames" if you will.
He is also called "Lion of Juda". Does that mean christians worship animals???
He is also called "morning star" or "Rose of sharon" does this mean christians worship a star or a plant???

[PurpleLama]

Yet, in many places the exact same phrase that is rendered "morning star" which you rightly ascribe to Christ is likewise used to name the opposite, Satan or the Devil, so you see, much confusion has been introduced through translation and interpretation down through the years. There are many clues to support my supposition, if one looks hard at the words of the Master, himself, ignoring the contradictory teaching of Paul, I would suggest. To my eye, the Master emphasized following him in a literal here and now kind of way, whereas Paul pointed to it as a posthumous condition. I know which way I'd take, but I'm not suggesting I necessarily know better than anyone else, either. As I've heard suggested by others, and I rather appreciated the sentiment, that Christ's intent was to found a movement of Christ's, not a religion of Christians.

There is a pair of books, called The Search for God books 1 and 2, I would heartily suggest, for anyone interested in becoming more Christ like, as it were. It's a study guide put together by a Christian prayer group with assistance of the Edgar Cayce channel.

[Krullenjongen]

Yet, in many places the exact same phrase that is rendered "morning star" which you rightly ascribe to Christ is likewise used to name the opposite, Satan or the Devil.

Can you point me to those passages, i would be interested to read them.
I know somewhere in Isaiah Satan or lucifer is called "son of the morning" and in another place angels are called morning stars but i have never seen "morning star" as a reference to satan.
There are however some new bible translations that replaced "son of the morning" with "morning star" but you will not find it in any of the older translations.

But we are getting to far offtrack with this discussion and i don't want to hyjack this thread so i will give the "mic" back to Fred.

P.s. thanks for the book tip.

[Warlock]

Ra for you, Fred! :wizard:

Warlock