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Robert J. Niewiadomski
29th September 2012, 22:22
Hi

I would like to settle some issue that bothers me. Many times i have heard people complaining on humiliating procedures they have to endure before they can board their plane in the USA. But... some Poles i know and who flew to the USA reported none such procedures to me. One of them even lost some paper forms he was asked to fill in while aboard of the plane and give back to customs/immigration officers. And he did not had to return Poland immediately. They have flown from Warsaw to Florida. Can someone explain that discrepancy to me?

Is this because of the so called "Robert Dziekanski taser incident", whicht took place in Canada in 2007?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Dzieka%C5%84ski_Taser_incident

I feel sorry for your state of affairs in the USA :( But my POV my by a little distorted by all those conflicting reports :(

Hope and wish you it will be back to normal really soon :)

Selene
29th September 2012, 22:44
Aaargh. This bizarre humiliation is the new "normal".

It is arbitrary and unpredictable (Am I a citizen?) for a reason: that's the most scientifically effective behavioral modification way to increase fear, and therefore control over the sheeple: keep the punishment random and unpredictable.

This will get worse, not better. Our children are being conditioned to expect this herding and thought-scanning as "normal".

I weep for America. And all of us, who are being coerced by their evolving Dark Empire. Darth Vader would be proud.

Sadly,

Selene

Robert J. Niewiadomski
29th September 2012, 23:02
Additional clarification. The Poles i have spoken with reported they saw no "strange" machines around. I mean not only them were not scanned but all of the passengers of their plane were not. Also they boarded their plane in Warsaw without any "new" procedures. Just the x-ray of the hand bags and the metal scanner. By normal i mean no humiliating procedures no harassment at the airport or the public or private place... Just... you know... normal normal... I dare to disagree that what is now is normal :( It is not!

I guess it was sarcasm on your part Selene, right? :)

Selene
29th September 2012, 23:10
Not sarcasm, for sure, Robert. I meant every word.

But quite possibly the airport your friends departed from did not have full-body machines in use that day. Some airports are more lightly machined (thankfully!) I promise you that even non-Americans get scanned when departing from certain other airports in Europe. I've been there.... But some airports have token machines they don't actually use very often. Part of the random/arbitrary psychology, IMO.

Regards,

Selene

Kindred
29th September 2012, 23:24
Two words: Behavior Modification

Conditioning the public for mass control - that's what the "Freeze" is All about.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOeCtPxiaTQ

for this effect:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdtYwD5xkvU&feature=player_embedded

In Unity, Peace and Love

Bongo
29th September 2012, 23:25
Funnily enough my friend went to Florida last year with his family & I said to him about not going through the scanners & he gave me a blank look because he hadn't heard anything about full body scanners... lol... anyway when he came back, he said the same info you got told, there were metal detectors but no other scanners, & he said everybody on the plane got through hassle free.

Think it was Orlando he went to although I'm not 100% about that.

ghostrider
1st October 2012, 02:00
Could it be the TSA scanning machines are in place to detect Aliens from humans ? ET walk freely among us, the outward appearance is basically the same, but inside could be a little different, you might need a special SCANNER to detect ET from human.

Flash
1st October 2012, 02:21
No, they are not just for US citizens, my daughter had to go through when I was not aware yet of the genetic harm. It was right at the beginning. And we are not American, it was not in US, but we were going to Europe with a stop in a US airport.

On the way back, in Paris, before boarding, we were not scanned but US custom agents were there and were absolutely rude, we were screamed at, I really mean screamed, being told to give proof of the place we stayed at, come on, hurry, come on hurry, and basically pushed around. Very bad experience. It felt you know, like last world war. We were only cattle.

I swore that I would never go through US again when going to Europe. This is usually not as bad when going to US alone, although it is not fun either. I have been insulted at the boarder, given despising comments, asked stupid question (the last one was where are you going: to my friend in ... . Why: to see her and visit. Who are you going to see: my friend. This after having answered a wrong answer when he ask me were I live, I answer where I was going, so I was told "Listen, Listen, use your ears, learn to listen. listen" is a loud slow despising fashion, the finger pointing to the ears, I was stunned. I answered "you ask me where I live, I live in...."
I told him: I have a question: he answered rudely "I ask question and you talk when I tell you, until I am finished and I tell you to talk, you shut up" - Finally he finished, told me "the question" and I ask where exactly could I take a ferry to cross to another state. I could see in his face he felt bad, the question was soooo genuine, and he realised then that I could speak English quite fluently as well, he toned down in his answer. But with an accent, forget it. They can be real ... no need to say.

On the other hand, I crossed this summer and my car trunk would not open from the inside. So I had to give my keys and the agents start talking about my keychain, what it was (it is a defense thing) and how to use it properly. He was nice.

A Canadian experience.