GFL channel Greg Giles admits he was scammed

[enfoldedblue]

Many of us knew there was someting very wrong with this channel...and we were right.
The following was written by Greg Giles after his final channeled msg in which his source admited they have been manipulating greg and all his followers as part of a secret project. It is interesting on many levels...much to discuss.........

"What's the Difference Between the Colorado Shooting Suspect and a GFL Channel?

Colorado Shooting Suspect"


Absolutely nothing. You heard it right my friends. This is Greg, Greg Giles. It’s me, so please everyone, let’s get off this Greg has been kidnapped by the cabal and these words are coming from an imposter. I sincerely believed I was a channel for the GFL and also the Ashtar Command, but I have news for you, I was not, but hold on, wait until you find out why because this involves all of us, including your families, your friends and every single member of our human family. I not only thought I was a channel of higher dimensional communications, I also was prepared, yes listen to this, to arm myself to the teeth with automatic weapons and have a shootout with whoever it was who came to my home one evening, as I was warned through the voice in my head this was going to happen.


I trusted this voice, for there is more going on here than simply trusting what feels like a loving voice in your head. It is true, we have all been part of a very remarkable, and I will even say, life saving program. Do not be ashamed that you fell for all this, but you did. So did I. I believed, and I followed to the letter a voice in my head. All of you, and that means all of you reading these words right now, followed me and you did not even hear a voice in your head did you? And this is the real scary part.

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http://www.ascensionearth2012.org/

[christian]

Wow! This is really bombshell-information, I have heard the name Greg Giles before, but I really don't know how 'famous' he is or was. Can this be a real turning point? Do the pie-in-the-sky types now get their feet on the ground? This could make an impressive noise. But from the comments under the article it's already obvious that many have trouble letting go of 'their reality'.




I was mind controlled. Plain and simple. You could call it mind influencing if that makes more sense to you, and that may even be more accurate to say. Let's not soft soak it though, it's mind control folks. [...]

Forget all the GFL stuff. Forget ascension, because you'll all see on December 21 nothing is going to happen, except that the day will end and it will become December 22 and we will all be one day and one step closer to these concentration camps, if we do not wake up. [...]

We are not alone in this. There are powerful forces and they are on our side. But it is true they will not do this all for us, because they can't do it all for us. They need our cooperation and even our assistance. You see, there's a lot of these bad guys and there's a lot of people that are afraid of these bad guys and they'll do their dirty work for them. You understand what I'm saying here, right? We all need to grow stronger by growing together. So forget all this finger-pointing and stop all this blasting of me and other channels as well. We are all a part of this resistance movement and we are on the same side. [...]

While receiving these radio signals through my head I believed every incredible lie that I was told; seawalls, earthquakes, tsunamis, food replicators, free energy devices, career opportunities with the galactic commands and of course, ascension. (Keep in mind everyone, we believe we incarnated for a reason, and you know, I still believe this entire civilization is our stage to prove ourselves and we will be offered so much more of what this universe has to offer when it is all over. So let’s show this universe what we are made of.) My question is though, why did you all believe this? You simply trusted me because you know I would never purposely lie to you. This is why this mind influencing program is such a threat to be taken seriously. Does anything come to mind here? What about all those cult leaders who believed they heard the voice of God in their head and lead others so far astray? Keep in mind though; I feel it is entirely possible to control the entire population through the use of a broad band radio signal, or a ‘wide range’ of radio signals, so no leaders will be required to lead anyone. [...]

I have been briefed on our new mission, our real mission. I am now briefing you. Our mission is to inform every single member of humanity, if that's what it takes, that this mind control programming is a very real threat and we must take steps to defend ourselves. [...]

[Earth Angel]

Its disturbing to me that he agreed with many people that something sounded fishy in his channeled messages, but since they were attacking him and calling him a liar and a scammer that he didn't come clean with his own thoughts.....also if what he says is true, with all the cell phone towers everywhere now, even turning off our radios/phones/computers won't help us so what is it he is going to tell us we can do ?? will raising the collective vibration be enough to change this plan if it is in fact real ?

[observer]

Listen to the entire video, but please, pay particular attention to what is being said around the 11 minute mark:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdB-tbzJSrk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdB-tbzJSrk

[music]

They are beaming stuff at us all the time, through a variety of mediums. I discuss a recent attempt to implant negative thought patterns in me here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48115-The-Batman-mind-control-experience.), and the steps taken to thwart it. The only concrete reality that we have is love, so we should all cultivate the garden of our heart, and seek to activate our high heart chakra.

[bluestflame]

been saying that for years the cell phone towers are part of a delivery system for under the radar broadcasts to seed the subconscious at a specific frequency the mind is capable of picking up on just under the radar so to speak

why was there a push a few years ago to get as many new digital "smart phones" into the hands of as many of the public as they could ?

in the upgrade from analog to digital there's a greater carrier signal capacity

and YES this latest "channeled" message has big ramifications but is a bloody good wake up call at the level of tech available to the elite

tecknologically assisted artificial telepathy IS a reality

[Hervé]

Oh dear... I am picturing Viking digging a hole to hide in and get down... to earth.

[Ontarioguy]

It is the same ol same ol...when it comes to the INTERNET....who knows what or who to believe and whether what they are reading is even legit? It is THE INTERNET! Discernment required as always. Interesting nonetheless :)

[ghostrider]

been saying that for years the cell phone towers are part of a delivery system for under the radar broadcasts to seed the subconscious at a specific frequency the mind is capable of picking up on just under the radar so to speak

why was there a push a few years ago to get as many new digital "smart phones" into the hands of as many of the public as they could ?

in the upgrade from analog to digital there's a greater carrier signal capacity

and YES this latest "channeled" message has big ramifications but is a bloody good wake up call at the level of tech available to the elite

tecknologically assisted artificial telepathy IS a reality

you are correct about cell towers, that transmit signals that affect our emotions . people sometimes forget we operate on a vibrational frequency, that frequency can be tampered with by energy that is opposite our natural frequency/vibration.

[gooty64]

How do we know that Greg Giles hasn't just changed channels?

And without a current video of Greg Giles talking about all of this stuff, I will be tuning out of this.

C'mon Greg Giles you live in freakin' L.A. -someone there can help you make a video.:director:

[gripreaper]

How do we know that Greg Giles hasn't just changed channels?

And without a current video of Greg Giles talking about all of this stuff, I will be tuning out of this.

C'mon Greg Giles you live in freakin' L.A. -someone there can help you make a video.:director:

But, how is Greg going to make money now, if he's no longer channeling the GFL? Maybe he can become a breatharian and live in a cave?

[cloud9]

Are you guys talking about Sheldan Nidle?
Ooops! I'm sorry, I just found a Gregg Giles, it's just that I never saw that name before.

[eileenrose]

I think John Kettler pretty much covered this issue, about the channeler's not channeling who they thought they were. He said they would probably eventually realize this (they had been conned). You can read it on his site (I don't see any reason to become fearful. Greg opened himself intentionally to mind control, on many levels. Easy to avoid yourself. And yes, there are very real technologies in place to distract and distend (push you away from yourself). Just a reminder to become one (follow Eckhart type teachings). I'm having zero difficulties myself with the cabal and I have never been affected like this. Just saying....fear is their tool of choice. Avoid the fear (at all cost). Greg doesn't know that much (other than his personal experiences right now). Give him the time he needs to figure all this out on his on (he is projecting fear currently....so feeding 'the bad guys' ....ie. the Illuminati types).

[RunningDeer]

Listen to the entire video, but please, pay particular attention to what is being said around the 11 minute mark:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdB-tbzJSrk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdB-tbzJSrk

Hi Observer, I watched this a bit ago. The microwave weapons used against peaceful protestors were microwaved to the point of suicides, tumors, personality changes, etc. @ 5 minutes blew me away. I thought I was awake, but it seems there are different levels of awake. Glad you posted this. Thanks.

@ enfoldedblue, Thanks for this thread.

[onawah]

This website is certainly worth checking out:
http://www.icaact.org/
International Center Against Abuse of Covert Technologies
It's where the video interview of Dr. Barrie Trower originates that Observer posted.

[bluestflame]

and this one

http://www.icaact.org/ElinspectadorArticle.pdf

"July 31, 2012 - 11:28 pm
The Russian president spoke of the balance of power in the future
Putin to psychotronic war
By: Daniel Salgar Antolinez
Weapons that attack by waves and leave no trace determined armed conflict after the nuclear age"


"The scientific curiosity of the Russians on this technology is not new. Mojmir Babacek, Czech
author known for his research into psychotronic weapons and founder of the International Movement Against Manipulation of Central Nervous System, tells the viewer that since 1920
began to investigated phenomena as telepathy, telekinesis and clairvoyance, and during the
60 and 70 had a real arms race between Russia and the U.S. in this area.
The goal was to find the physical phenomena that govern psychic phenomena. Russian
scientists spoke of torsion fields and educate Americans about scalar fields. "The concepts
differ substantially and sound like scientific mystifications, which supports suspicions that
were discovered physical principles of psychological principles, but have remained hidden,"
says Babacek.
John Hall, a biologist and physician who treats alleged victims of mind control and is the
author of A New Breed: Satellite Terrorism in America, told The Spectator that psychotronic
weapons sent waves the electromagnetic spectrum and the human nervous system to alter
behavior, thought, perception, and the musculoskeletal system. "A hologram is a victim,
hears voices, has involuntary muscle movements and limbic and headaches, among others."
How would use these weapons in the next war? "When you can use a system-such as the
Research Program for High Frequency Active Auroral (HAARP), developed by the U.S. -
which increases the energy emitted largely taking it to the ionosphere, can point to large
areas on Earth's surface . By submitting the radiation at frequencies that control the activity of
the heart, one could kill entire armies stopping the heartbeat of his soldiers, "he replies
Babacek.
Why Putin said that these weapons would be more acceptable in the military and political
ideology? For the Czech author, may be less culpable because they not leave radioactivity
after use, as it does with nuclear weapons. Furthermore, if the technology is not used to kill
enemies, but to make them "incapable of fighting, overheating their bodies, rendering them
unconscious, making them sick, causing pain in internal organs or epilepsy, and who use that
technology may presume that lead the fight humanely. But using this technology would make
totalitarian powers of a new type and the concept of human freedom disappear from history. "

[onawah]

More from Lars Drudgaard who interviewed Dr. Barrie Trower, and James Walbert, a victim of non-consensual RFID implantation

9B8fD-1ujI4


On The Truth Denied Radio Show today:http://www.thetruthdenied.com/

Guests: Jesse Beltran & Lars Drudgaard of ICAACT.org

James Walbert :Board of Directors at Stalking Victims Network

Dr. Barrie Trower interview conducted by Lars Drudgaard regarding Targeting Olympic athletes

Some of the discussion included:

James Walbert discusses the technology that is lodged in his right shoulder
Targeting Olympic Athletes, why and how?
Dr. Barrie Trower's statement comparing Scientist of today vs Scientist after WWII.
Radio Waves and how they release plagues that have been dormant for hundreds of years
RFID and transmission of Sound. (Trower Testimony)

GUEST: James Walbert
Board of Directors at Stalking Victims Network
Wichita, Kansas Area Civic & Social Organization
Court Recognizes Electronic Harassment:

James Walbert is a victim of non-consensual RFID implantation. He has testified in in Washington D.C. in front of the Presidential Commission on Bioethical issues appointed by President Obama.He is one of the few who obtained a "Protection Order" for James Walbert.

A few minutes of the Dr. Barrie Trower Interview conducted by Lars Drudgaard was also played on the show today:

"Today it is not uncommon to hear stories in the media on how professional athletes are using performance enhancing drugs. If an Olympian is caught "doping", they are banned from competition and then subsequently stripped of any titles or medals they have won. What if today, a technology existed that could remotely affect the performance of an athlete? What if an athlete could be remotely influenced to lose or win a competition? Could this be possible? If so how is this possible? By what methods, what means?" Lars Drudgaard

Please contact either Mr. Jesse Beltran or Lars Drudgaard if you have any questions about your own personal saftey.

www.icaact.org

International CenterAgainst Abuse of Covert Technologies

[nonesuch]

Before everyone takes off on the well-worn radio wave/cell tower theory of the end of the world from the late 80s or 90s, I'd like to make a few comments.

The channeled farewell message from the troublemakers posing as the GFL was absurd by its very existence. How exactly were they sending their 'sincere' fare-thee-wells via Greg’s neuro-electrical transfer station if not through more lying radio waves? Think about it.

In their lofty, but inherently depressing good-bye ramble, they assured readers there were no other dimensions but this one (which is untrue), no ability to influence our reality through thought (again, untrue), and no value in seeking guidance within (misleadingly untrue).

They topped off their patronizing charade by deeming humans worthy of their continued but unspecified help because we accepted their authoritarian, 'up-with-people,' deceptions as truth until they handed in their final time sheets along with a laundry list of lower astral rationalizations, delivered on golden platter of 'superior knowledge'.

I am quite sure these are not high beings from another galaxy, not even decent writers. They’re possibly humans who happen to be high on something. Its unlikely even highly evolved humans would pull this stupid stunt.

Instead of dropping off the radar for some clearly needed R & R, Greg reinvested his freshly discredited discernment into making the most of his new, unsubstantiated message—Everybody run! Evil radio waves!—that he suggested we broadcast continuously to friends, family and strangers. You might have noticed with a hint of deja vu that Greg and his imagined gang of trickster-criminals were the only attributable sources for this latest world saving information! This guy’s confused pre-frontal cortex just won't quit.

There may be technologies that can train our minds on specific thoughts and corresponding feelings, but classically, such devices and abilities have been featured primarily in reports from schizophrenics worldwide long before new age channels et al started mixing up a relaxing blend of psychological symptoms and pop speculation and calling it the daily news.

Now, instead of a message of false hope, Greg is spreading a message of false doom that is most likely an accurately portrayed projection of his internal landscape about now. Get a grip and give this some serious thought before deciding whether to obey Greg’s not-so-subliminal suggestion to Tweet his alarming revelations without delay and without end until everyone in the world agrees with him and his dearly departed GFL. Something smells fishy here, but I don’t think its a reptile.

[Carmody]

been saying that for years the cell phone towers are part of a delivery system for under the radar broadcasts to seed the subconscious at a specific frequency the mind is capable of picking up on just under the radar so to speak

why was there a push a few years ago to get as many new digital "smart phones" into the hands of as many of the public as they could ?

in the upgrade from analog to digital there's a greater carrier signal capacity

and YES this latest "channeled" message has big ramifications but is a bloody good wake up call at the level of tech available to the elite

tecknologically assisted artificial telepathy IS a reality

I know someone who was instrumental in the creation, design,and execution of an entire coast to coast cell phone tower system. This person is of the highest caliber of being human, and responsible toward humanity.

I have not heard even the slightest whisper of such a thing.

Thus, in at least one case, I can't quite speak definitively about the cell towers not being of that nature, but my understanding of such and connection to such is probably closer and better than anyone here is ever going to know of or meet, in a person or connection.

And I did back that up, as Bill knows my name and I did privately relay such, with him. I stated or backed my connection and statement, regarding this sort of information.

[ThePythonicCow]

I have not heard even the slightest whisper of such a thing.
The telecommunications industry in America (elsewhere too no doubt) has been a major source of revenue for decades now, as I know from working at Bell Labs, when it was part of the AT&T monopoly in the 1970's, and from working at computer companies selling systems to various Baby Bells, following the break up of AT&T and following my moving to Silicon Valley startups in the 1980's.

Cell phones have been the clear and major "future" of telephony for decades now and major money has flowed into building up that infrastructure. This buildup has been quite competitive, pushing the technology and the financing all along. That does not provide, in my view, an easy arena for our central intelligence agencies and friends in which to work a parallel mind control technology that would be visible in the specs, engineering, implementation, installation and maintenance of equipment that is spread from sea to shining sea, every fraction of a mile and engineered fairly tightly to certain purposes and uses.

The central intelligence sort of agencies usually require more centralized control and access points, or else (as in say the case of fluoridated water) require at least a large propaganda effort to make something that is primarily harmful seem to be helpful.

If I were one of the bastards in power, and I were wanting to subject Americans to some wide spread electromagnetic mind control mechanism, I'd use more specialized delivery vehicles, such as military or intelligence installations, satellites, planes, drones, HAARP, ...

[enfoldedblue]

For me this feels significant only in terms of the fact that it represents some sort of turning point. The masks are beginning to come off. I have watched this channel from a distance purely out of interest and I supose humour really. For me it has been clear since I first became aware of Giles that he was a source of clear disinformation. I just imagined these messages to contunue on like a twisted broken record until they eventually fizzled out. But it appears the project is much more complex and sophisticated. Right now it we see that Greg has become aware that he has been duped and is in the process of transforming himself into an independant warrior to fight the power. I, however, don't think that Greg is as independent as he might like to think. I think he is continuing to play the exact role his controllers have planned for him. I believe the aim of this project was to fill people up with false hopes and dreams made up of truths, half truths and lies and then pull the rug out from underneath so all gets thrown out as rubbish. The meassage that Greg is spreading now is still, or even more so, saturated in fear and separation consciousness. Us and them.

Some of the lessons we are 'supposed' to learn from this include:

Don't trust an inner voice On the one hand this is good because it makes people aware that the potential exists for our inner most thoughts to be manipulated and so, even within, discernment is wise. However, because our true inner voice is the very thing we need to be listening to for guidance and inner alignment, this idea is very dangerous because it could stop people from trying to connect with their inner voice all together and put people into such a parnoid state that they can't even trust their own deepest selves.

there is only one dimension...this one In the final message the speakers say that they have been lying about dimensions and that there is really only one...this one. This is very convenient as it keeps people within the unidimensional playing field where "they " exert their power. Becomming aware of our multi-dimensionality is NOT on their agenda!

Nothing is going to change for a long time Go back to sleep everybody...all is going to continue on as it always has...there is no awakening process...just focus on how f**ked you are.

Well all in all pretty facinating crazy stuff!!

[Tangri]

Channeling seems to occur a person who has no self confidence but have a strong self centered personality. They feel they are here on some special purpose and waiting to be guided to it.
My succession is , One(person) must be skeptical even it comes from magical forms.

[music]

Oh dear... I am picturing Viking digging a hole to hide in and get down... to earth.

I don't think it's constructive to ridicule people who were sucked in, even if we feel they have done the same to us for our "disbelief". There will be people out there who are suicidal over this (not saying Viking is one of them, but we never know how another feels). These people are our brothers and sisters after all, and I think they would benefit more from love and support.

As would/do we all.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

As of 6 days ago all top level Ptb have been re located to " safe bunker accom " .

Banking elite have resigned

Ships in the gulf

I think something will happen. But remember there are many manipulations for and against.

Be prepared but dont live in fear.

Best

N

[Ishtar]

It always amuses me how psy-ops flips the story once we see through the old one. They've done it again here... the headline could almost be Greg Giles Swaps Channelling for Fear Porn.

I don't know whether or not anyone has the technology to direct our thoughts and feelings, but I do know that when we reclaim sovereignty over our consciousness, nothing like that, nor disturbances from the astral, can touch us. It's only while we're still giving away our power to other people to tell us what is true that any negative influences can find a way in. Once in touch with our spirit guides, we reclaim our birthright of sovereignty over own consciousness and our own lives. This isn't a political act. It could be called a spiritual act because it puts us in touch with our own spirits.

People that believe in the output of channellers have given away that sovereignty, as have people that believe something just because it's written on a page on the internet, or in a book, or in a newspaper or magazine without independently verifying it. I think Greg Giles's handlers just want to keep his audience, now that so many are seeing through channelling ... and so they've gone back to the old reliable standby of fear porn.

[The Truth Is In There]

not surprising that they'd end the scam at some point since by now a lot of people have realized that it's mostly lies they've been fed.

what i'm curious about is where people would draw the line between genuine channelled stuff and the gfl kind?

with "genuine" i mean things like what dolores cannon does. it's also basically "love & light" messages but the difference is that if any of us were under hypnosis we'd probably all say similar things. i don't think these people under hypnosis are being influenced by any kind of technology. imo these are connections with other aspects of ourselves who are not imprisoned in this earth "reality". so why would they deliver mostly "positive" messages if none if this were true?

of course the current "reality" has to be deconstructed (destroyed) before a new, better one can emerge. that's common sense and yet it is a "negative" aspect for many people (something i don't agree with). but the way, or rather the severity, of this deconstruction still depends on each person's state of mind. after all, we experience only the "reality" we resonate with, quite like a radio receiver. if a person doesn't require the experience of being enslaved under a nwo then that "reality" won't be experienced. for those who need that experience...well, bad luck. we're all going to get what we deserve.

[niki]

thought so...
I'm not surprised anymore by all these 'oh-sooo-beautifull/amazingg' channelings turned out in the end to be just another 'made-up' hoaxes, scams, or wishful-thinking/escapisms from harsh mundane everyday's "earthly" reality...

"A (beautiful, wonderful, imaginative) dream is just a dream sometimes. Not all of them are achievable..."

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/308055_10151169356837310_314663779_n.jpg

[dim]

thought so...
I'm not surprised anymore by all these 'oh-sooo-beautifull/amazingg' channelings turned out in the end to be just another 'made-up' hoaxes, scams, or wishful-thinking/escapisms from harsh mundane everyday's "earthly" reality...

...or this is exactly what they wanted you to end up with all along

[Anchor]

Psyop within Psyop.

No hard data really exists - except what has been said will come to pass invariably does not.

GFL tests the functional limits my BS detector all the time. (Space bikes... etc)

However, not all channeling is a waste of reading - I suspect the objective of this and initiatives like it is to paper over the cracks, which are letting light shine through.

I suppose the idea is to paint all channels as dangerous, unstable work of crackpots who should all be locked up.

It is telling that these guys will burn their own channels to do it.

Desperate times.

[PHARAOH]

Time to rebuild our temples. We must be born again. We must develop our

"PSY-EYE-CHIC SELF DEFENSE".

:wizard: :cantina: :moil: :moil: :moil:

[Ultima Thule]

If you meet a channeler on the road, kill him... [old Channellist proverb]

Seriously, I read on through the whole thing, including the last channelled message, "revealing" the plot.
A psyop gone bad with a new twist to keep the suckers going - a very possible scenario, however it is quite refreshing that Greg called this thing openly bogus and that he´d been had.

UT
ps. perhaps this thread deserves a place in general discussion?

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

I didn´t believe him before and I still don´t believe him now.

Ok, it´s great that he finally came clean about this GFL stuff. I´ve never believed it anyway, but this will save the new truth seekers from LOTS of frustration.

Anyway, I don´t buy this remote mind control theory at all. I know the so called "elite" has means to brainwash people but these methods are not that high-tech.

If they could simply control people´s minds using some sort of remote technology, there would be no opposition against them, which is obviously not true.

I just think Greg came to the conclusion that he was wrong but he´s too proud to admit his mistakes, so he´s trying to find a way to blame someone else.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Jenci]

Update from Greg Giles





Hello everyone, I just received a 'telepathic' message this morning and was told that my 'phone lines', and I am presenting metaphor here as I do not use an actual phone to channel messages', was hacked and I had received the last couple of messages from, well, I'll let you guess who was sending me these last couple of negative messages.

It was not the GFL or the Ashtar Command, to give you a hint in the right direction. I am a little uncertain about all of this at this time, and I will write a longer and more detailed explanation later on today for you, for it is early here and I just wanted to get this message out to those who have been following the messages shared through me and have sent me their love and support over the last few days.

Keep the faith everyone, just like all of you did when no one, and I mean not one single light filled person wavered in their beliefs after reading the last couple of messages I posted. Good for you everyone! We have been learning to hold fast to our convictions and you all did. Great job! You should all be very proud of yourselves. I also wish to thank everyone for your kind words and all the love and light you have sent my way over the past few days. I love you all too. Keep shining that light!




http://www.ascensionearth2012.org/

[RMorgan]

Update from Greg Giles





Hello everyone, I just received a 'telepathic' message this morning and was told that my 'phone lines', and I am presenting metaphor here as I do not use an actual phone to channel messages', was hacked and I had received the last couple of messages from, well, I'll let you guess who was sending me these last couple of negative messages.

It was not the GFL or the Ashtar Command, to give you a hint in the right direction. I am a little uncertain about all of this at this time, and I will write a longer and more detailed explanation later on today for you, for it is early here and I just wanted to get this message out to those who have been following the messages shared through me and have sent me their love and support over the last few days.

Keep the faith everyone, just like all of you did when no one, and I mean not one single light filled person wavered in their beliefs after reading the last couple of messages I posted. Good for you everyone! We have been learning to hold fast to our convictions and you all did. Great job! You should all be very proud of yourselves. I also wish to thank everyone for your kind words and all the love and light you have sent my way over the past few days. I love you all too. Keep shining that light!




http://www.ascensionearth2012.org/


Hahahaha! So now he´s saying that what was previously posted by the OP were not his words?

Come on...

Raf.

[christian]

He even deleted this monumental blog-post :der:

'Strange energies playing with people' for sure...

[wobbegong]

He's putting a scam on top of a scam...hoping to double the consensus.
Right...Greg...so those that believed in the lies about the GFL, ascension, free energy etc. will say...oh, ok it was an exercise to train us...well, we looked like jackasses but it's all for our own good. Those that didn't believe in the lies will say...there ya go! I was right it's not true, but now that he's telling the truth I'm with him all the way! Right...right...Greg...

[gooty64]

From Greg Giles site today:

Keep the faith everyone, just like all of you did when no one, and I mean not one single light filled person wavered in their beliefs after reading the last couple of messages I posted.

:director:Where's the video Greg Giles?

Or are you just playing the field?:madgrin:

[SilentFeathers]

It really makes no common sense at all to me to even listen to this dude and about his "confusing" involvement in a ridiculous cult.

He (Greg Giles) must of been having a bad day and wanted some attention, he needed some ego food too and why not toss in some mind games, that'll get em!!!!!!

[Carmody]

Hey folks,

I didn´t believe him before and I still don´t believe him now.

Ok, it´s great that he finally came clean about this GFL stuff. I´ve never believed it anyway, but this will save the new truth seekers from LOTS of frustration.

Anyway, I don´t buy this remote mind control theory at all. I know the so called "elite" has means to brainwash people but these methods are not that high-tech.

If they could simply control people´s minds using some sort of remote technology, there would be no opposition against them, which is obviously not true.

I just think Greg came to the conclusion that he was wrong but he´s too proud to admit his mistakes, so he´s trying to find a way to blame someone else.

Cheers,

Raf.

It is known that the is hardware to do specific beaming and targeting, of individuals. the level of focus required is tricky, thus specific ways, places, limited range (density of materials blocking the signal, etc), is the deal.

As for psychic sensitivity, yes, that one is possible, but how difficult it is to replicate with hardware, I've no idea. I'd say that I've probably got a better idea (meaning 'having a grasp of') of the potentials than you might.

Since the military and others have been playing with psychic phenomena for over 40 yeas at the same time they 'poo-poo' (put down, or denigrate it in public) the whole aspect of such... It is possible to say that they may have found the mechanistic (electronic) means to inject into minds. They have money, will to do so, an entire world of intelligent people to select from and then direct said scientific minds toward a task and outcome....and well, I'd like to think they are smart enough to figure it out. I know that I am capable of figuring it out.

To be clear, I see no problem whatsoever of finding a way to speak in other people's minds mechanically, or electronically, as I've done it myself, psychically, on multiple occasions. Enough occasions, and ways, or circumstances... that my scientific proofing side cannot dismiss the evidence.

A close friend of mine cautions me with regard to scientific work in unknowns ...that it should never be advertized that something, whatever that thing may be..is possible. That is, if one wishes to be the first one there and lay claim to invention with regard to corporate or financial concerns of ownership and control. For as soon as it is seen as possible, that humanity and people are always smart enough to get there and get there quickly.


The problem is that many people are so far away from such understandings that they see it in (and as!) a moment of fear and relegate it to unknowns that sit in their minds. Sitting in their minds... in the same place god and fear, love, desire and so on occupy in the mind's mechanistic channels and wiring.

I'm not saying that what this guy, Greg, is saying..is real. No,not at all. But that in my understanding and reality of science and also psychic phenomena, that none of what he claims, is in any way impossible and considering time lines and the history of the situation, in both esoteric and modern military/corporate/government considerations, all of the possible and spoken of directions are firmly on the table, as real potentials.

[Earth Angel]

the plot sickens !

[RMorgan]

It is known that the is hardware to do specific beaming and targeting, of individuals. the level of focus required is tricky, thus specific ways, places, limited range (density of materials blocking the signal, etc), is the deal.

As for psychic sensitivity, yes, that one is possible, but how difficult it is to replicate with hardware, I've no idea. I'd say that I've probably got a better idea (meaning 'having a grasp of') of the potentials than you might.

Since the military and others have been playing with psychic phenomena for over 40 yeas at the same time they 'poo-poo' (put down, or denigrate it in public) the whole aspect of such... It is possible to say that they may have found the mechanistic (electronic) means to inject into minds. They have money, will to do so, an entire world of intelligent people to select from and then direct said scientific minds toward a task and outcome....and well, I'd like to think they are smart enough to figure it out. I know that I am capable of figuring it out.

To be clear, I see no problem whatsoever of finding a way to speak in other people's minds mechanically, or electronically, as I've done it myself, psychically, on multiple occasions. Enough occasions, and ways, or circumstances... that my scientific proofing side cannot dismiss the evidence.

A close friend of mine cautions me with regard to scientific work in unknowns ...that it should never be advertized that something, whatever that thing may be..is possible. That is, if one wishes to be the first one there and lay claim to invention with regard to corporate or financial concerns of ownership and control. For as soon as it is seen as possible, that humanity and people are always smart enough to get there and get there quickly.


The problem is that many people are so far away from such understandings that they see it in (and as!) a moment of fear and relegate it to unknowns that sit in their minds. Sitting in their minds... in the same place god and fear, love, desire and so on occupy in the mind's mechanistic channels and wiring.

Hey mate,

I agree with you. 100%.

There might be the technology indeed. It´s totally possible.

However, there are way better targets for this hypothetical technology than Greg Giles and other similar GFL channelers.

This GFL cult is not that influential at all and, anyway, people believe all sorts of weird stuff all by themselves.

It would be much more efficient to target politicians or much more politically influential people.

Honestly, about Greg, I think he´s just the fruit of a confused mind with very fragile beliefs, which ends up leading to serious psychological conflicts.

For some reason, maybe for a momentary crisis of consciousness, maybe because he was drunk, he made that polemical blog post; Then he changed his mind later on.

Spoiled kids and treacherous partners use this "It wasn´t me" excuse all the time.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Carmody]

the plot sickens !


Yes it does. Tricky waters to navigate. Everyone may have to work at finding their own center. Might be prudent. Absolutes will eventually kill you, so always keep the door open to potentials. Even though the body and it's fear based reactions always beg for and will not stop, as they insist on a black or white answer, for very good reasons.

The body will keep you in the realm of fear until a perfect answer forms that allows the alarm to shut off and the fear of loss of life and all....to stop, so it can relax back to a rest state.

This is the source of the going crazy part, it's your own body demanding an answer to the perceived imminent threat. It is afraid, and it knows only emotions, and has no intellect, so it forces an answer out of you, pushing you to and beyond the point of exhaustion.

It was designed that way, from the ground up, as a mechanism that protects the avatar, or body. The same mechanism that pulls your arm back from the perceived burn from the stove or hot item/thing.

It is the EXACT same thing that is driving people 'bat**** crazy', right here and now.

[Flash]

Hey folks,

I didn´t believe him before and I still don´t believe him now.

Ok, it´s great that he finally came clean about this GFL stuff. I´ve never believed it anyway, but this will save the new truth seekers from LOTS of frustration.

Anyway, I don´t buy this remote mind control theory at all. I know the so called "elite" has means to brainwash people but these methods are not that high-tech.

If they could simply control people´s minds using some sort of remote technology, there would be no opposition against them, which is obviously not true.

I just think Greg came to the conclusion that he was wrong but he´s too proud to admit his mistakes, so he´s trying to find a way to blame someone else.

Cheers,

Raf.

It is known that the is hardware to do specific beaming and targeting, of individuals. the level of focus required is tricky, thus specific ways, places, limited range (density of materials blocking the signal, etc), is the deal.

As for psychic sensitivity, yes, that one is possible, but how difficult it is to replicate with hardware, I've no idea. I'd say that I've probably got a better idea (meaning 'having a grasp of') of the potentials than you might.

Since the military and others have been playing with psychic phenomena for over 40 yeas at the same time they 'poo-poo' (put down, or denigrate it in public) the whole aspect of such... It is possible to say that they may have found the mechanistic (electronic) means to inject into minds. They have money, will to do so, an entire world of intelligent people to select from and then direct said scientific minds toward a task and outcome....and well, I'd like to think they are smart enough to figure it out. I know that I am capable of figuring it out.

To be clear, I see no problem whatsoever of finding a way to speak in other people's minds mechanically, or electronically, as I've done it myself, psychically, on multiple occasions. Enough occasions, and ways, or circumstances... that my scientific proofing side cannot dismiss the evidence.

A close friend of mine cautions me with regard to scientific work in unknowns ...that it should never be advertized that something, whatever that thing may be..is possible. That is, if one wishes to be the first one there and lay claim to invention with regard to corporate or financial concerns of ownership and control. For as soon as it is seen as possible, that humanity and people are always smart enough to get there and get there quickly.


The problem is that many people are so far away from such understandings that they see it in (and as!) a moment of fear and relegate it to unknowns that sit in their minds. Sitting in their minds... in the same place god and fear, love, desire and so on occupy in the mind's mechanistic channels and wiring.

I'm not saying that what this guy, Greg, is saying..is real. No,not at all. But that in my understanding and reality of science and also psychic phenomena, that none of what he claims, is in any way impossible and considering time lines and the history of the situation, in both esoteric and modern military/corporate/government considerations, all of the possible and spoken of directions are firmly on the table, as real potentials.

Truly naiiing my balloon Carmody. Really. It was time.

I did try what you explain in another post once: to stare at someone and they will invariably turn around to see, even if your stare was from the back.

Well, it was so interesting, it happened everytime, no fail. Unbeliveable. So I can just imagine what can be put on people with training and/or electronics and all the money in the world to develop it.

[mountain_jim]

Well this is one of those times when I would have appreciated the quoting the whole post in the OP, as I only saw this today, read the 2 fragments (I assume not the whole Giles blog post) and now he's deleted it.

But I figure I've got the gist of things, apparently his mind is like a leaf in the wind, and he really is mind-controlled or totally lost and disconected from Source.

[mountain_jim]

Hey folks,

I didn´t believe him before and I still don´t believe him now.

Ok, it´s great that he finally came clean about this GFL stuff. I´ve never believed it anyway, but this will save the new truth seekers from LOTS of frustration.

Anyway, I don´t buy this remote mind control theory at all. I know the so called "elite" has means to brainwash people but these methods are not that high-tech.

If they could simply control people´s minds using some sort of remote technology, there would be no opposition against them, which is obviously not true.

I just think Greg came to the conclusion that he was wrong but he´s too proud to admit his mistakes, so he´s trying to find a way to blame someone else.

Cheers,

Raf.

It is known that the is hardware to do specific beaming and targeting, of individuals. the level of focus required is tricky, thus specific ways, places, limited range (density of materials blocking the signal, etc), is the deal.

As for psychic sensitivity, yes, that one is possible, but how difficult it is to replicate with hardware, I've no idea. I'd say that I've probably got a better idea (meaning 'having a grasp of') of the potentials than you might.

Since the military and others have been playing with psychic phenomena for over 40 yeas at the same time they 'poo-poo' (put down, or denigrate it in public) the whole aspect of such... It is possible to say that they may have found the mechanistic (electronic) means to inject into minds. They have money, will to do so, an entire world of intelligent people to select from and then direct said scientific minds toward a task and outcome....and well, I'd like to think they are smart enough to figure it out. I know that I am capable of figuring it out.

To be clear, I see no problem whatsoever of finding a way to speak in other people's minds mechanically, or electronically, as I've done it myself, psychically, on multiple occasions. Enough occasions, and ways, or circumstances... that my scientific proofing side cannot dismiss the evidence.

A close friend of mine cautions me with regard to scientific work in unknowns ...that it should never be advertized that something, whatever that thing may be..is possible. That is, if one wishes to be the first one there and lay claim to invention with regard to corporate or financial concerns of ownership and control. For as soon as it is seen as possible, that humanity and people are always smart enough to get there and get there quickly.


The problem is that many people are so far away from such understandings that they see it in (and as!) a moment of fear and relegate it to unknowns that sit in their minds. Sitting in their minds... in the same place god and fear, love, desire and so on occupy in the mind's mechanistic channels and wiring.

I'm not saying that what this guy, Greg, is saying..is real. No,not at all. But that in my understanding and reality of science and also psychic phenomena, that none of what he claims, is in any way impossible and considering time lines and the history of the situation, in both esoteric and modern military/corporate/government considerations, all of the possible and spoken of directions are firmly on the table, as real potentials.

Truly naiiing my balloon Carmody. Really. It was time.

I did try what you explain in another post once: to stare at someone and they will invariably turn around to see, even if your stare was from the back.

Well, it was so interesting, it happened everytime, no fail. Unbeliveable. So I can just imagine what can be put on people with training and/or electronics and all the money in the world to develop it.

Perhaps related, I would refer folks to the links in a thread I started awhile back concerning the science and evidence of synthetic telepathy research, NSA mind-control tech, etc.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39680-NSA-behind-the-Curtain-Synthetic-Telepathy-other-articles-linked-to-from-ATS&highlight=synthetic+telepathy

[Carmody]

Truly naiiing my balloon Carmody. Really. It was time.

I did try what you explain in another post once: to stare at someone and they will invariably turn around to see, even if your stare was from the back.

Well, it was so interesting, it happened everytime, no fail. Unbeliveable. So I can just imagine what can be put on people with training and/or electronics and all the money in the world to develop it.

And this is exactly how one stalks prey..they do the opposite.

They blank themselves so that they are not seen, so they are not observed. also the same way that one can block understanding in another, by broadcasting a confusion, that blanks the other's mind from thinking. we can and also do project rumination or thinking, so we can learn to cognate and think, together.

That is how I managed to control thousands, with one bodily originated aspect of their presence, at a concert. I wanted them to sit down, so I could see over their heads, from the back row I was in. I projected the right thing, that agreed with their minds, and then they amplified it and sent it along to everyone else.

Controlling crowds is easy, if one begins by understanding that this psychic or dark matter, or 'out if time' and/or dimensional connection does indeed exist. It is tied to the understanding of how 'free energy' devices work. They operate in the realm of the longitudinal wave... the FTL function of the plasma aspects of dimensional or dark matter phenomena...as Tesla found.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhuSn6sc7sc

And Tesla did it all, with wood, bakelite, brass, copper, and steel, combined with electricity. he didn't have any electronics, or even vacuum tubes.

Which means the ancients did it the same way. no modern tools are required. Just intelligence, observation, and figuring it out.

The modern technology may seem to bring refinement, but really, it's just a distraction from what is --and what is not.

Thus, this seeming war/disagreement we hear about, between the technologists and the esotericists.

[Christine]

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Dr Bill Deagle and others have been stating for many years that advanced technology exists to beam thoughts, feelings and subjective experiences into targeted individuals' minds.

Click on the links below for an important 2010 Coast to Coast interview with Dr John Hall, who has been researching exactly this for a while, and who has amassed thousands of case histories:

http://projectavalon.net/John_Hall_Feb_8_2010_Hour_1.mp3
http://projectavalon.net/John_Hall_Feb_8_2010_Hour_2.mp3
http://projectavalon.net/John_Hall_Feb_8_2010_Hour_3.mp3

[Realeyes]

This is a most interesting, thought provoking Thread; I have now just finished reading every post here, plus the ‘Reality Update video’. Thank you to all who have contributed.

What a curious and dangerous Mind-Field! :der:

I know nothing about this person Greg or his work/channellings; yet my heart goes out to him, and the mind labyrinth twists that he and others are now questioning, defining and addressing.

Many of us here know that certain lessons can be hard; I call these very tough lessons the ‘dark night of the soul’. Belief systems inevitably come crashing down as ‘Knowingness’ BEcomes in ‘ALL-ways’ the courage to overcome, ‘becoming anew’ as we self Awaken from such defining IN-lightening experiences and BEcome ‘Wiser’. smile.

One of the endearing and beautiful qualities in humans is their ‘loving hope’ – how many times have we humans been kicked face down in the dirt? Yet it is this very loving hope that drives us deep within, giving us the strength to pick one’s self up again and strive forth. Sadly ‘others’ perceive this quality as a weakness easy to exploit and manipulate.

As I see it, ‘Hope’ defined with ‘knowingness’ is very different to ‘hope’ wrapped in ‘belief’. It is the difference between the wheat and the chaff or gold and nickel.

For me personally, one of the most self-empowering places to discover one’s truths is in ‘controlled out of body experiences’. For 40+ years I have learnt to explore what exists beyond my physical body – imho, there is no-thing better or more concrete than first-hand experience. I highly recommend this as it brings the opportunity to discover for ‘yourself’ IF there are such truths as ‘Life’ beyond 3D, dimensions, higher levels, multi-dimensionality, soul, spirit, unity, god/isness etc.

There is an enormous difference between ‘reading’ how to operate a car – to actually ‘Driving’ the car masterfully. Smile.

The choice is individually ours. I personally choose to be a ‘driver’ :wizard:
and not the faithful ‘passenger’. :noidea:

:grouphug:

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Chanelled information is not how higher spirits work to help us. Chanelled communication is hap hazard in terms of what you may tune in to.

True etherical communication is an upload of a knowing, an upload of wisdom and logic. Voices? This is not how they work.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48110-The-Biggest-Show-On-Earth-WELCOME

Caveat : I feel that someone like Bashar, he is someone you can learn from. He is giving excellent communication. Regardless of the scource the technology he speaks of is very accurate and useful.

We should forgive GFL for this mistake. These people are doing things they think is helping us but have been lead down the wrong path.

Remember bible quote about falce idols appearing? Im not a bible basher but its true. Lots of confusion now, why? To test faith :-)

Dont lose hope, smile at your today tomorrow.

N
N

[enfoldedblue]

I read years ago about Puharich and his experiements in using technology to transmit message to the brain. I remember he did some experiements with prisoners in which he made them believe they were receiving telepathic messages. I can't find much info now, as I don't have much time. But for anyone interested with some time on their hands their is some interesting info about this man and his experiements out there. Here's a tiny blurb I quickly found:

"Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the history of The Nine is its relationship to the career of Andrija Puharich. Recent research has revealed Puharich to have a distinctly sinister side. As an Army doctor in the 1950s, he was deeply involved with the CIA's notorious MKULTRA mind control project (see panel). He - together with the infamous Dr Sidney Gottlieb - experimented with a variety of techniques to change or induce actual thought processes. even to creating the impression of voices in the head. These techniques included the use of drugs, hypnosis and beaming radio signals directly into the subject's brain. And, significantly, he was engaged in this work at exactly the same time that The Nine made their first appearance at the Round Table Foundation. The Foundation itself is now known to have been largely funded by the Pentagon as a front for its medical and parapsychological research. Puharich was still working for the CIA in the early 1970s, when he brought Uri Geller out of Israel. Puharich's use of hypnosis is particularly interesting in The Nine circle. In the case of Uri Geller and Bobby Horne, he first hypnotised them and then suggested that they were in touch with The Nine - and lo, they were! Ira Einhorn - a close associate of Puharich's during the 1970s - confirmed to us that he believed that Puharich was "humanly directing" The Nine communications."
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/council_of_nine_fortean.htm

[DeDukshyn]

Maybe check Gregs blog again ... his tone seems to have changed yet again ... ????

http://www.ascensionearth2012.org/

[Bill Ryan]

Maybe check Gregs blog again ... his tone seems to have changed yet again ... ????

http://www.ascensionearth2012.org/

If this isn't an obituary for GFL channeling, nothing is!

[DeDukshyn]

Maybe check Gregs blog again ... his tone seems to have changed yet again ... ????

http://www.ascensionearth2012.org/

If this isn't an obituary for GFL channeling, nothing is!

LOL ... agreed, I still have no clue what the GFL is all about, but I know everyone chooses things that serve them in one way or another - almost always it is for a learning aspect. Ironically there is a message from "Abraham" / Hicks that sums it all up extremely well. not all will agree with this POV, but it is worth listen through. My 2 cents. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBwz0tPsXNk

[bluestflame]

i remember something about Andrija Puharich and carlos castenada and the reptillian brain , might be worth a google
was something they were delving into , the info on it


was in "the teachings of don juan" i think

[Davidallany]

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Dr Bill Deagle and others have been stating for many years that advanced technology exists to beam thoughts, feelings and subjective experiences into targeted individuals' minds.


It is true Christine. I have experienced this first hand. It was very odd feeling once I was conscious of it. It made me disoriented for a while, but thanks to years of practicing meditation I was able to recover quickly and send a message of my own.

[Selene]

Special thanks to everyone who has posted excellent links to info about synthetic telepathy, as well as to all comments above. Yes, to all of it – and if you, dear reader, haven’t checked these previous pages out, you’re missing the core of the story here. It's excellent.

I personally appreciate John Hall’s research, quoted by Christine:


Click on the links below for an important 2010 Coast to Coast interview with Dr John Hall, who has been researching exactly this for a while, and who has amassed thousands of case histories:

http://projectavalon.net/John_Hall_F...010_Hour_1.mp3
http://projectavalon.net/John_Hall_F...010_Hour_2.mp3
http://projectavalon.net/John_Hall_F...010_Hour_3.mp3


Meanwhile, as poor Greg Giles twists slowly in the mental wind created by those folks at Langley who are amusing themselves by making him crazy, is it perhaps time for a Cat Comment?

With your kind permission:

http://imageshack.us/a/img222/631/catnipistalking.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/222/catnipistalking.jpg/)

Cheers,

Selene

[nonesuch]

For those who are still interested, below is a copy of the entire message the GFL delivered through Greg Giles that was posted on his blog yesterday, but taken down today.

The deleted message Greg himself wrote yesterday and posted after this one was published can be found farther down the page.



The GFL Message


Many of you have clearly been waiting on your ship to come in to your harbor, but as a few of you, not many of you, but a few of you have begun to discern for yourselves, no ship is coming in and we, of course, are referring to these fictitious debit cards that have never and will never be mailed to you. All of you, and this means every single one of you, including our channel Greg, has been participating in what you may refer to as a research study or a project, or what we refer to as a great program. So what has this program, that is now over for Greg mind you, all about?

Well, we can tell you only what you may need to know, or what you feel you may need to know, to somehow come out of this a little more unscathed than Greg has. Greg is, shall we say, deeply wounded, for he feels he has led many of you astray and in a way he has indeed done this, however, his heart was always in the right place. He has actually been receiving our radio frequency communications that are received solely through the power and the use of his brain. This is the way we have been communicating with him and through him to you, and this is why we feel he has fallen for this, we shall say, scam, if you will, for so long, for you see, when one receives communications in this way they can get a little confused. Such is the case with Greg.

We told him some whoppers, as you say, and he bought them hook, line and sinker. He would never have done this if we would have sent him an e-mail, or posted this kind of information online, or even sent him a letter or issued him a phone call. Yet, because he received this information as what you know as telepathically, but we do not and we will not get into that, he believed these communications must be real and they were in a way, but they certainly were not from the Galactic Federation of Light or the Ashtar Command.

Greg has agreed to share this one last message from us to you, for he feels you all deserve at least some sort of explanation, and he also wishes to use this opportunity to ride into the sunset, as it were. For those of you who wish him harm, or are even angry or upset with him, try to find some compassion, for he was an unwilling participant from the beginning.  We told him some things we thought he needed or wanted to hear and that got him hooked, as you say. He (felt he may have possessed) some kind of special abilities, but he does not and he fully understands this and actually took this news quite well and we were surprised. He simply said, ‘Oh well, I wasn't telepathic going into this, and I'm not telepathic getting out of this, so easy come, easy go. What's the big deal, it’s cool.’ And we laughed at that, and we feel he has been a good sport and a good cheer so we shall spare him any more embarrassment, for he truly despises when we speak his name in these messages, as many of you mistakenly feel that he likes to talk about himself, for he does not.

Let us get back to you and our project, as we refer to it. All of you have taken part in this project, not just our channel, so you too were a bit gullible and fell for everything that we have told you, well mostly anyway. Many of you started drawing the line at certain things that we were sharing with you. None of these, and we mean none these words are (our channels). He did his job very well especially throughout this last year. For all the rest of you, you simply believed the words of a complete stranger, for even though some of you consider Greg a friend, you don't really know him and you have never met him. You probably never will and you know just about absolutely nothing about him, yet you believed just about everything, and some of you believed everything, he said because he seemed a nice guy and he seemed to be honest and he seemed to be hard-working. Well he is all of those things, though he was also duped, as you say, so where did that get you?

And that leads us to what this project, or at least one aspect of this project, has been all about. It has been a project to teach you, to mold you, to strengthen you, to educate you. Yes. All those things we said about you becoming a new being was true, in a way, and all those things we said about you creating your new world, well believe it or not, that's true too. We are helping you create your new world. It's just going to take much longer than maybe we hinted it would. It could take decades and it could take a hundred years, maybe even longer, just like we began to reveal to you over the past few months. Many of you did not like that turn of events, we will say, after we had begun to assure you that things would happen quickly, and we then we began to foreshadow to you that things would take much longer than you originally had felt, and maybe we helped a little bit by telling you things can happen right away, but that was part of the project too.

We wanted to ascertain how many of you would actually believe a world can be changed so quickly, almost overnight in some ways. We wanted to know this because we do want to help you change your world, and if we could do it overnight we would do it, as you say, in a heartbeat, but it can't be done that quickly. Things take a long time, especially here in this world. You do have systems that are so antiquated they need to be torn down and completely rebuilt, but how do we do this? We can't do it all at once. Your entire society would collapse. We can’t even completely tear down and then rebuild just one system, for your society would collapse just under the weight or the stress of that one system being torn down. Do you understand this? So help us help you. We said that all along, and we will continue to help you.

(Greg) has assured us that he will leave this message on his blog and his Facebook page for the next 72 hours, upon which time he will (update to a new theme, a theme many may choose to benefit greatly from.) So what will happen after that? Well, we still have other channels and yes, there are other channels that are authentic, as you say, and we will continue to share messages through them.

You are all going to be just fine. There is no cabal that may or may not come for you. There are a lot of criminals in your world, yes, and some may even be politicians, but some of these politicians you think are criminals really are just trying to do the best they can. We will not get into it with you today, but we will get into that with some of our other channels, for they don't believe a word that Greg has ever said, so even if they read this message and Greg says that the people that have been sharing messages through me ( which is the only way he will refer to us for now on because he knows we are not members of the Galactic Federation of Light or the Ashtar Command, but ‘those who share their messages through me’) have lied, and that this is all some kind of project, even a drug rehab project, for ladies and gentlemen, Greg and his brother have figured that out. They started getting the idea that maybe this entire project, or at least a large portion of it, was a twelve step drug rehab program. Well it is, but it's not just a twelve stepper.

Each and every one of you have been stepping each and every day for the past year and half since we have been issuing our messages through this channel. So you can call it a one thousand step program, whatever you would like, but what we have been trying to do is get you people off of drugs. Greg understands how true this is. He has been clean and sober for a long time. We will not say how long, but it goes back before we began sharing our messages through him. He has remained clean and sober and drug free just to do this work for you, for that was the deal we made with him in the beginning.

Many of you don't know he gave up all his friends and the life he had and the drugs he seemed to like so much to do this work for you, so cut him a little slack. He sacrificed a lot. We are greatly concerned that Greg may return to a life of what we see as debauchery, for we know Greg that these thoughts have been flashing through your mind. Remember, we are still connected to you. Greg knows this and has kind of been trying to hide it. He is kind of trying to pretend he's going to try to live a cleaner life now, even though he knows that this was not what he dreamed it was. That's okay Greg. Do whichever is you'd like. We'd still like to fulfill our end of the agreement we made, but that's up to you now. Do whatever it is you feel will make you happy. You really deserve it. You've kind of worked very hard for very little money and even appreciation, and yes folks, he was greatly underappreciated, although some of you really did issue him your thanks and your love and he is greatly appreciative of that.

For the rest of you, you have badgered him and attacked him and yes Greg, we fibbed about that too. We are none of the people that have been attacking you. We told Greg that many of his most vehement attackers were us in disguise, but that's not true. All of these comments are from you, the people of Earth, and even the attackers, and even the ones that say, “Good job Greg, we really appreciate your services.” So Greg, you are going to be attacked ruthlessly today and for the next 72 hours. Greg has agreed to answer all of your questions and comments for the next 72 hours here on this blog alone, not on his Facebook page, as that page is quite out-of-control. He gets tons of messages every day, and each and every day he tries to answer each and every one.

Many of you feel he ignores you and that's not true. He only ignores the people that have attacked him so brutally, and Greg knows he failed that test too. You see folks, you cannot ignore each other. These were cries for help and Greg fully understood that, yet he let these people wallow in their fears, in their insecurities, or even their paranoia, because he felt they didn't deserve to be answered if they didn't learn to properly speak to another human being. Well folks, we can't tell you how backward that is. They have to be taught how to deal with others and how to behave sometimes, and how to properly come to some conclusions and how to appropriately treat others.

This leads us to who we are. We are truly here to help you reconstruct or rebuild your world, and this cannot be done without rebuilding some of you. Although you may feel it is intrusive and it is not any of our business, we all share this universe and we feel that it is alright in some ways to try to rebuild some of the areas that you may refer to in your world as ‘slum districts’, or maybe even ‘lower rent’ districts. Please forgive our analogy. We do not wish to offend, believe us. We just need you to understand how we see much of this planet. For all of you that see us as meddling in your affairs by traveling here, let's say, by trying to help you rebuild or re-sculpt or remodel yourselves before we move on to your new world, please understand we meant it when we said we cannot build on a shaky foundation, and folks, you are the foundation.  

You, the people of Earth, the actual human beings, are the foundation of your new world, nothing else, no. None of this ‘hopes and dreams’ and ‘creating with thought,’ for that was a fairytale too. Yes. We do love all of your beautiful pictures you have been posting all around the Internet, and it has made your world a prettier place and a brighter and cheerier place, but we say that is not going to create your new world. Your new world will be created through hammers and nails and blood, sweat and yes, tears. You might even have to break a few backs, but that's how worlds are created. Not through mind control or creative manifestation or through thought forms, that was all a white wash. That was all a lie. We were testing you again.

We wanted to see if you really believed that worlds are created through dreams, through smoke and mirrors and magic. Well, you fell for that too, and that's okay. That helps us greatly understand you, the human, better, for that is one of the reasons why we have conducted this research or this project, as we call it. You all failed some of the tests, but that's okay. You passed many of them, and we see a much brighter future for you all. Coming in, we were very doubtful and skeptical that we would see enough from enough of you to give us confidence to go ahead with this rebuilding project, but we have changed our minds and you all have made us see this.

We are now going to start reconstructing your world just as we have spoken of.  Greg does not wish to believe this, but you will start seeing changes in your world because we have begun to see changes in you, and as we have said, that's where it starts. It starts with a solid foundation, and we see a solid foundation now, and all of you may look at this one of two ways. 1) I was conned, I was duped, I wasted so much of my time and my energy and even my hopes and my dreams, but no, you did not, for we found that there was something in all of you that we did not even know existed, and because of this, yes because of what we found and through our project with you and all your comments and your assistance sharing these messages and videos of what you feel are our craft in the skies, we say to you that we will begin to uphold our part of the agreement and begin to redesign, reconstruct, and as you say, recreate your new modern world. Yes.

We are not lying. We are going to help you to achieve this. How will we do this? Do not worry about the details. So many of you seem to have such a problem with worrying about how things get done. Sometimes just know they will, because somebody who does know how it's done, and has much experience in this regard, is “on the job,” as you say. We have much experience, and we do not age and die as you do. We live on and on and on. We will not get into how we do this or how old we are, but we will say that is true. We have been on your planet for a very, very long time going back thousands of years, and we don't mean our people have been here. We mean we, the people, the actual individuals that are speaking to you now through what you may refer to as our channel, we were standing on your planet thousands of years ago and we stand upon it today. So we can tell you that we see how long change takes, but we can also assure you that change does happen, that your world can, will, and does experience change, and sometimes great change, in sometimes a short period or window of time.

So here we are. Many of you are still very young and you will see some, what we shall refer to as spectacular, changes in your world before too long, but we will not get into how long we foresee these changes to begin to reach the eyes and ears of all of you, which leads us to those in your world who have never heard of these messages, or of the Ashtar Command, or the Galactic Federation of Light, or of ascension, and yes, we are very sorry to report this to all of you, there is no such thing as ascension, physical, spiritual or otherwise. None of you are ascending into a higher dimension, for although we have traveled through space, we can tell you we have never found any other dimensions. No. There is just one, this one. You can call it your 3rd dimension, but we just call it ‘space’ or ‘the universe,’ for there are no other dimensions, so why call this your 3rd dimension?

We kind of lied to you there too, but we wanted to see how much you would believe about your universe that clearly had no basis in fact, but we digress, so let's stay on point today. So here we are in your one dimension. It's a large universe, but we all share it and we want to start rebuilding your world for you and with your assistance. As we said, we cannot do it without you. We cannot do it without your confidence and your faith in us, which leads us to all this speculation about who runs your world from behind the scenes, or behind the curtain, as you may say. Leave that alone. There are powers and forces that you do not at this time understand. There are those that fight on the side of the light, as you say, or love or right, you may say, and those that may take a contrary position, a position of what you may refer to as the dark or evil, and we say to you we are really neither.

There is kind of this; there are different subtle shades of gray, we will say, and no, we are not those gray alien beings that some of you have read about in books or maybe have even seen, for yes, they are real. We don't know who they are, you can believe this if you wish to or you can feel it is another lie, we will not try to influence you in either direction. We don't know who they are because they will not tell us. They are very tightlipped, and yes, they have little tiny lips, as you know, and they do speak through them. They are not telepathic. We have never met any other extraterrestrials that are telepathic, and neither are you.

The human species is not telepathic. Our channel Greg and all our other channels, and we do have a number of them, are receiving our messages through simple radio frequencies. These frequencies match the frequencies of their particular brains. Yes Greg, as you figured out, we have the exact frequency number, or rate, of your physical brain, not your mind or anything abstract like that, but your brain. We will tear up those figures though, and we will never use them again. You have our word, but again, you don't believe a word we say so we’ll just leave it at that, but know that we will not meddle in your affairs or your brain any longer.  

Let us close out this last and final message through Greg. He was trying to help you all. He dreams of a better way and a better life not just for himself or his family, but for all of you, and he felt he was helping and in a way he was. You have all been helped tremendously. You don't understand this, but we do enjoy a greater perspective than you do. We have been on your planet for thousands of years, this is true, but you may not believe a word we say, right? Well, that's part of your learning. You have got to learn not to trust a voice in your head or some stranger on the Internet, and many of you are strangers, right? You don't even know if that's Greg’s photo, and we won't even tell you if it is or not. He will tell you if he wishes to.

Those of you who are following voices in your head stop it immediately. They may not be ours, and you may not wish to follow ours either, for you know you can't trust us, for we are trying to help you grow and become more educated in certain areas, and sometimes teaching can be a rather ruthless experience for the student. Yes, we have different teaching methodologies, as Greg has coined the term, and we rather like that Greg, so we think we will borrow that from you if you don't mind, and we say to you that we disagree with Greg in many areas here.

He doesn't feel that anyone should ever be lied to or misled and we disagree. We feel that if we were honest with you from the beginning and told you that we were going to test you and try to reeducate you and that all you will get are vague promises that your world may or may not be redesigned and rebuilt and this may take decades or even centuries, how many of you would've continued to read these messages and therefore become these new beings, as you say, which were to be the solid foundation of your new world? You see, we needed you to be this new solid foundation, and if none of you followed these messages we would not be telling you today that you have all passed, you have all showed us that you can be wonderful people that truly wish to help another and change their world for the better, and because of this, we are going to get started with the rebuilding project right away and isn't that what all of you wanted to begin with?

Many of you began to follow these messages before we even whispered the word ‘ascension’, so for those of you who feel that this was all about ascension, for you or for everyone, it wasn't. That was an extra caveat, we will say, thrown in, and we will say that many of you want to believe that you go somewhere after your lives here. Well you may and you may not. We do not have that answer either. You see, we go somewhere different. We will not say where we go or how we come back, just know that we are immortal, eternal, godlike, as you say in your world, but we’re really not godlike, we’re a lot like you. We have different bodies, this is true. We have different minds, this is true. We also go someplace else after we die or perish, as you say, and we do not have any idea where you go, if you go anywhere at all.

You may, and if any of you do have real memories of where it is you go after you die, and how it is you return here, we would love to know. We've been trying to figure this out for yes, thousands of years. We have no idea, because each and every one of you, when you do return through incarnation, if that was indeed your first go-round, as you say, has absolutely no memory of where it is you have come from, which leads us to all of you believing in these past lives, and your one life you live forever somewhere else in the universe. We tell you that that's an impossibility. You may indeed come from somewhere else and you may live many lives, this much is true, but we will say none of you have this memory, as we have been conducting tests for thousands of years.

For all of you reading these words listen to us and listen to us clearly when we speak of your gifts for reading the rest of this message, and we know you're not going to believe a word we say, but here us out here. We know who each and every one of you are, and we do wish to help you. You're not going to know how this help may come to you. You will not know if it will really ever come, and if it does, you will not even know if this help has come from us, but know your lives are going to improve. We have ways, we have methods, and we do have connections throughout your entire world and we can pull strings, as you say. We will leave it at that. You don't know how it can happen. You may get a car loan that you had absolutely no credit or right to get. You may receive a bank statement that has more money in your account than you thought you had. You may even have criminal charges that may magically disappear one day when you show up in front of the judge and he has no idea what you want.

This leads us to Atlantis and Lemuria folks. They don't exist. They never did. It is not a part of your history. We lied there too. We wanted to test you and discover how far back you believed your history goes back on this planet. We really don't know how far back they go, as we haven't been here that long. There were beings here when we got here, but they didn't know either, so we will just leave it at that. Their people have survived and their people are you, so we didn't lie there, but we will leave it at that and say these people were not on any fictitious continents such as Atlantis or Lemuria. What you see is what you get. When we got here thousands of years ago, these were your continents and they were exactly where they are positioned now. They haven't moved an inch, as many of you have been lied to by your news and your governments.

Your continents are not moving. Your continents are not sinking. Your sea tables are not rising, and there we come to another point. There will be no rising water tables as we have been warning you about through our channel. There will be no ‘one hundred foot’ tsunamis. There will be no great earthquakes. It was all a test to see how you would react. To see if you would run in fear, or work together as a team to defeat these challenges, and ladies and gentlemen, we are very proud of all of you, for none of you, and we mean none of you, has actually moved out of your residences and ran to safe haven on another continent or within the inner shelter of a continent, or the midlands of a continent.   

We are astonished by this. We thought that so many of you would pack up your homes, leaving just about everything you own and taking off in your many cars that you own. We are delighted at this and we say that we will do whatever we can to protect you from any eventualities such as this, but we say to you relax and don't worry, for we do not foresee even any great earthquakes at all in your next one hundred years or so. So relax. There will be no earthquakes. There will be no tsunamis. No rising water tables. No flooding, nothing of that nature. There will be no cabal coming for you.

Here's the truth and take it as you will, for many of you probably do not wish to believe a word we say, and that's good. That is part of your training. Here we go. The cabal does not exist, and as we have said, it's just a nickname. There is a rather large group of interconnecting criminals. You may even say they have criminal enterprises. They swindle some of your tax money. They do such things as this. They may even dabble in drug dealing, but we’re not really sure what they do, for they are not part of us at all. They are humans just like you, so we don't know that much about them, just like we don't know that much about you.

For those of you who think we dabble in your minds, we do not. We do not read minds: that we told you. We use simple radio frequencies and we do not have the frequencies of your particular brains, only of our channels, and for all the other channels that may read this message through Greg today, and you will not believe a word that he is saying or that we are saying to him, and you continue to receive a radio frequency communication, we say, shame on you. Why would you (choose this?) 

Greg was always very (mindful) of this group you call the Illuminati, and he made a decision one day and told his brother ‘I am going to live the rest of my life trying to warn people about this group of individuals, and try to rally the troops and defeat them.’ Well Greg, we tell you that you can't do this. You can't uproot this group. There is just no way. There are just too many of them. They are everywhere. Folks, there is an Illuminati. They are not us. We are not a part of them. We are the ones protecting you from them. We will leave it at that and say, leave them alone. Leave us alone. Don't trust those of us as you don't know who we are. If you see our craft in the sky don't shoot at us. We are here protecting you. Yes, that's what we're doing here. We are helping rebuild your world, and as we have said, that is an additional caveat. We are here to keep these others that may wish to do you harm at bay. This is why there will be no cabal coming after you.

Folks, there are no free energy devices either. We are working on better and more efficient energy sources for your planet. We will leave it at that and say for now, you are going to have to continue burning coal and maybe cutting down trees and relying on impure water to drink and we're sorry. We wish to change these systems too, with your assistance, but they will take many years and maybe even many decades. Solar power is promising, but we don't have the answers to this either. Our craft do not rely on solar power for their propulsion. We will not tell you how they operate. Greg is thinking right now he has an idea, and Greg you’re right, but do not share that information okay, that's our little secret.

 So we will move on and in closing we will say that all of you have participated in, we will even say, a remarkable program. You have shown us that you are worthy of our assistance, for not many worlds are worthy of this. We have visited other worlds and they have shown they are not ready.  They were more, we will even use the metaphor (remember, this means it's a poetic way to say something, but it is not factual), they were more ‘cannibalistic’, meaning they ‘fed off’ each other, but not literally. They warred with each other, but they use and abuse each other. They rob each other and they hurt each other and they lie to each other to get their way, to make their own lives better. We can't tell you how improperly this is the way to go, and our alliance does not function like that.

We chose your world because we wished to assist you. We have agreed to assist your world because we see that there are enough of you that really wanted to help another and not just themselves, and that's the bottom line. You all consider yourself Lightworkers and we love that term, although it's not an official term, but we will make it so. We simply refer to you as, yes, patients, for many of you are either drug addicts or in drug rehab for your addictions, some of these recurring addictions. We were not lying when we began to preach to you about the use of drugs and its pitfalls, and we wish Greg to continue on in his service, as you say, to others by preaching how his life has changed so much after he removed himself from that kind of situation, or as you call it, “a scene.”

We tell you that this is a very serious problem. You need to get away from drugs and cleanup your lives. You are affecting your parents and your children and your brothers and sisters and your friends, so stop that. You're being selfish here. We wish to see all of you clean up your lives, at least somewhat. We did lie to you and say that some of you needed to get off drugs before you ascended and that some of you needed to live clean and sober lives before you could become official members of the Galactic Federation of Light or the Ashtar Command. Well, we did that for you, not for us. We do not get our jollies, as you say, lying to you or misleading you or hurting you in any way. We just want to see you clean and sober.

Yes, you can say it is none of our business, but remember, we are here helping rebuild your world and we are not going to help you rebuild your world if your world is full of drug addicts and junkies, as you say, so please do what you can to clean up your acts a little bit. We do see you now and we see a great mess sometimes and we are not insulting you or putting you down, but we wish you to be able to see what we see. Look in the mirror when you are high, as you say, or drugged out, as we say, and realize that there is a living soul within you, and yes, we do believe you have souls, but we will not get into that.

You may consider us soul less, but really, we do not see that either. We just don't see a soul inside of us and we don't go to where it is you think you go, which you call Heaven, so we will just leave it at that and say we are not soulless in the metaphorical sense, but we do not believe we possess souls, but we believe you do and we believe that you need to protect it, and by protect it we mean do not feed it drugs because it does not want these drugs anywhere near it. Do you understand?

We will leave it at that and say to you in closing that we do truly love each and every one of you and your world, and that is why we are here and that is why we are helping you now rebuild it, and before we begin to rebuild your world we wanted to see all of you make at least an effort to rebuild yourselves, and we have seen this so we will keep our end of the bargain. Please try to keep yours and try to stay clean and sober and away from these illicit and even prescribed medications. Yes, there are some medications that help, but there are just as many that don't. Please pick your drugs wisely.

Do your research for now and don't just believe some handsome or charming face that you see on the Internet, or even a beautiful voice that you hear in your head.  Just believe and rely more on facts. That's all we are advising you to do. You may have seen some ancient relics in your world, but you have no idea what is written on them because you do not speak these ancient languages, and this goes for your Mayan calendar. We don't know what it is and neither do you. Do you really know what it says on it, for we don’t. We do not speak Mayan and we don't know many that do, and even they don’t know because believe me, we have asked them.

They don't know what it means, so folks, your world is not ending in December of 2012. There will be no great catastrophes either. That’s all science fiction hocus-pocus smoke and mirrors. It's all a lie. It is all fiction. It is just a fairy tale. Go on with your lives. Your society will live on through 2013, 2014, 2015 and beyond, so don't worry about it. Again, all this ascension, all of this catastrophe, it will not happen, and for those of you who do not believe this you will find out soon, so just get prepared for a little let down, but remember, we do believe you are all eternal so this is not your only life. That is only what we believe. We have no facts to back this up. As we say, you don't know, so how could we know?

We will end today by saying this project has been wonderful. We see so many improvements in so many of you, and now you are going to see the improvements you so wanted to see in your world. Continue to treat each other with love and kindness and kid gloves, as you say, and take it easy on our channel. He was an unwilling participant, but he even sees change in himself and in many of you, and he feels this has made it all worthwhile.

So we leave you and remind you we are your friends, we are your family, we are from somewhere else, although we are not who you thought we were, and that’s okay. We love you and we bid you a farewell, and tell you we will always be here and we will begin your rebuilding project today. Goodbye and farewell to all of you. You have been wonderful and it has been a blessing to know you all, including you Greg, our channel. Thank you for all your hard work and your cooperation. You’re a good man. Keep it up. Goodbye to all, blessings to you all, and good day.

[bluestflame]

seems like they are using a clever sales pitch to stop people escaping the fema camp nets

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Please give me a bucket lol

You cant be serious?

[Selene]

This is a most interesting document/GFL ‘transmission’. My guess is that an honest person somehow grabbed the microphone here and tried to insert some truthful reality into the ongoing GFL circus.

This person has since been – ummm – “deactivated”…..

And the show goes on.

I hope to be wrong….

Sheesh,

Selene

[gripreaper]

Maybe this parody bears reposting:

http://meemsy.com/v/3683

[nonesuch]

Here is the post written by Greg himself that was on his blog yesterday and removed this morning.

Not for the faint of heart.




What's the Difference Between the Colorado Shooting Suspect and a GFL Channel?


Absolutely nothing. You heard it right my friends. This is Greg, Greg Giles. It’s me, so please everyone, let’s get off this Greg has been kidnapped by the cabal and these words are coming from an imposter. I sincerely believed I was a channel for the GFL and also the Ashtar Command, but I have news for you, I was not, but hold on, wait until you find out why because this involves all of us, including your families, your friends and every single member of our human family.

I not only thought I was a channel of higher dimensional communications, I also was prepared, yes listen to this, to arm myself to the teeth with automatic weapons and have a shootout with whoever it was who came to my home one evening, as I was warned through the voice in my head this was going to happen.
I trusted this voice, for there is more going on here than simply trusting what feels like a loving voice in your head. It is true, we have all been part of a very remarkable, and I will even say, life saving program. Do not be ashamed that you fell for all this, but you did. So did I. I believed, and I followed to the letter a voice in my head. All of you, and that means all of you reading these words right now, followed me and you did not even hear a voice in your head did you? And this is the real scary part.

We have all been trained now because we, all of us, are going to do what we said we wanted to do. We said we wanted to change our world. We said we wanted to protect our world. We said we wanted to make it a better and a safer place, did we not? Well, we were really not making a difference yet, although in many ways we were, but let's not get into that now. We were only in our training. Yes. We have now begun the initial phase of our operation.

Many of you will still languish within the training stage and that's okay. You are going to receive help to snap out of it. There are many other channels who believe they are channeling the GFL, the Ashtar Command and even Jesus and Archangels, but we are going to find out if they really are or not. This is okay, because they have been selected to be what I will refer to affectionately as the ‘poster children’ of our new movement, the movement that all of this has truly been about right from the beginning. Listen up and listen good. This is what all this is about.

This has not been a con job. This has not been a hoax. You have been fooled, yes, but for a very important and very good reason. You can call them the cabal, and remember, that’s just a nickname. You can call them evil, and you may even call them the Illuminati and that may be very accurate, but remember, there are so many different groups and factions in this world and we don't know who's who, so forget all of that labeling as that's not helping anything.

You can just call them the bad guys. Yes, isn't that simple. There are bad guys in this world. There are a host of government agencies and there are many politicians, are there not? You really don't know who's who so just forget it for now, it’s not what’s important to us.

Follow your own reasoning now. Forget that faith stuff, for now anyway. You want to show your faith? Have faith in yourself and in your fellow man. You can see your reflection in the mirror and you can see your fellow man, right? Right. No one is asking you to throw your Bibles away. No one is asking you to stop believing in loving extraterrestrials, no one is asking you to stop trying to create for yourself a better world, but right now we are just trying to save the world we have.

This is for our safety. This is for our future, and without this program I tell you right now as your friend and your brother that there will be no future for humanity, for here is what is going on, and drop this entire charade that I am lying to you or you have been tricked or conned. It's over now. The truth is on the table. Listen up, and this means all you who have not yet learned to respect other's views. We need you, and you know who I am talking about.
I respect you, and you can help us in our fight, as we are going to need tough SOB’s like you and you know who I'm talking about. So drop this hatred of me. We are brothers and we are all sisters, and what we all need to do is cooperate. We all need to work together to get through this and it all starts by respecting each other. Remember, no one is going to listen to what you have to say until you start respecting others. That’s why no one has been listening to you. Understand? So here we go. Here is what I am being told is going on in our world.

The bad guys, yes, isn't that much simpler? The bad guys, and you can call them the Illuminati that's fine, I'll go along with that, but even within the Illuminati there are most probably those that don't want to go along with this insane agenda, so remember that too. So here's what the bad guys want to do, and believe me it will work if we do not wake up, educate ourselves and prevent this.
Their plan is to use radio signals, simple everyday ordinary radio signals that bring to your car and bring to your home and bring to your Walkman and your IPod and everything else music, sports talk, Howard Stern, those car repair guys and your morning drive, and use them to for something else, something so diabolical. Something so twisted, sick and insane, and believe me, it has already happened to me and it's already happened to other channels who think they are channeling the GFL and everyone else, and it is going to happen to you next, then your families and all your friends and every single human on the planet that is one of them.

The only difference is that when you receive these radio frequencies, it will not be the good guys waking us up and warning us about this plan, it will be the bad guys, and here is what their plan is.

Coupled along with, and hidden within, these seemingly harmless radio waves will be control mechanisms that will totally and virtually lock up, freeze up, and control your brain, leaving you a helpless robot.

Yes. You may think this is crazy, but I ask you, what will you say after all your favorite channels all begin to tell you the same story, for I tell you right now, I was the first to be woken up with a cold hard slap in the face and it was done through these last few messages. These other channels, who are our friends and teammates remember, are now to receive this same gift, and yes, it is a gift of awakening, of education.

Many of these channels were selected to be the ‘poster children’, and I will explain that metaphor to all of you.

A poster child is someone that is selected to be the ‘face’ you could say or the spokesperson you could say or the role model you could say of a movement or an idea. So what is this movement? It is a resistance. For those of you who have not studied history, and that’s okay, there have been resistance movements throughout the entire history of this planet. What are we resisting?

We are resisting a plan by the bad guys to use these radio signals to control, and I mean completely control, another human being. Take it from someone who has actually experienced these radio waves.

Here's what happened to me one night in Los Angeles. For those of you who are not going to believe this, snap out of it. I am your friend. Do you really think I will reveal to you this embarrassing story if I were not trying to help you?

So knock it off. All of us will be pals in one of the hundreds of concentration camps that have been built in this country and all over the world if we do not learn to work together to reach a common goal. That’s what all this Lightworker training has been about. Remember?

So here is what happened to me one night in Los Angeles. I was picking up my best friend to go out to a party. I did end up making it there, but not before my mind was taken over by simple radio waves that most likely originated from a satellite or from a radio tower. Instead of driving the remaining mile or mile and a half to my girlfriend’s house, I slowed my car down and without even understanding why I turned down a dark alley in the middle of the night.

There was a man standing down in the middle of the alley. I drove up to him. I rolled down my window and I didn't even know what I was going to say to him. What would you say to a complete stranger in the middle of a dark alley in the middle of the night?

There I was though, and I was ready to start speaking to this person. The voice in my head, well, its really a silent voice, thoughts really, that make you believe certain things sometimes because these thoughts seem to originate from your own consciousness, told me, yes folks, here we go, told me this guy was Jesus.

And I believed that. It had nothing to do with drugs or alcohol or schizophrenia or anything like that, so get off it, please. I was mind controlled.
Plain and simple. You could call it mind influencing if that makes more sense to you, and that may even be more accurate to say. Let's not soft soak it though, it's mind control folks. I then drove away and I have been telling that story for four years now. But it's over. I now know the truth. I was being educated in just how powerful and just how dangerous and serious this mind control program works through the use of simple radio signals, but it did not end there. I have been channeling these messages for over 18 months now too.

We're going to talk more about this every single day from now on as this is our true mission, whether you believe this yet today or not, and that's okay. You need a few days to get over the shock that this has all been a training program for us, but just remember how important our duty is to humanity. We all wanted to be Lightworkers right? Well, here is your real, yes, your very real assignment.
We are all going to begin to share this information about this mind control program and about the concentration camps which are our final destination if we do not succeed in our mission. Forget all the GFL stuff. Forget ascension, because you'll all see on December 21 nothing is going to happen, except that the day will end and it will become December 22 and we will all be one day and one step closer to these concentration camps, if we do not wake up.

We can't wait until it is too late. There are real American heroes out there that are going to help us with this. You can call them our allies, that’s very accurate, but they are not making any arrests of the criminal cabal. That’s all over to, and many of you already see this. Sometimes when it walks like a duck and quakes like a duck, it’s a duck, and doesn’t it just make such sense now why we have never seen or even heard of one real arrest of any member of the cabal?

Forget the few bankers who were arrested, they broke the law and were simply caught by the authorities. That’s all. Happens every day.

There are some bad guys out there and you all know this right? You know that they have an agenda right? You know their agenda is to control all of us right?
All that remains for you to finally see, as I have finally see, is that this agenda entails the use of simple radio signals that will control you like a zombie, just like they controlled the Colorado shooting suspect and just about every other teenage shooter in this country, yes.

There may be a few that were just troubled teens, but understand that most of them were simply mind controlled, or mind influenced, and this distinction, that is, the difference between mind control and mind influence is just what may save us. We may be able to defeat these attempts if we remain strong and refuse these radio signals.

Do we have other proof of this mind influencing program outside of all the GFL channels? Look closely at the photo above. That is why this guy looks like he does. He is still experiencing the radio signals going through his head. Look at his eyes. He is being mind influenced. The radio signals going through my brain have been turned off, for now, as I have been educated.
They are simply turned back on when it is time to receive another message. No more tricks though. No more lies. My training is over. Many of the other channels, and I won't mention them by name, are going be ‘briefed’ as well, (and that means things will be explained to them.) So expect to hear from these other channels one day regarding all this.

This is probably what it will take for many of you to believe these words you are reading today, and that’s fair.

Now you'll have to ask yourself people; ‘Why are all these channels that I trust so much saying the same story that Greg has said?’ It is because they have been selected to be the poster children of our new resistance movement. This movement needs to stay focused about this mind control program. That's all. Do not dilute, convolute or confuse our mission.

This will only be playing into the bad guys hands.

We are not alone in this. There are powerful forces and they are on our side. But it is true they will not do this all for us, because they can't do it all for us. They need our cooperation and even our assistance. You see, there's a lot of these bad guys and there's a lot of people that are afraid of these bad guys and they'll do their dirty work for them. You understand what I'm saying here, right?
We all need to grow stronger by growing together. So forget all this finger-pointing and stop all this blasting of me and other channels as well. We are all a part of this resistance movement and we are on the same side.
While receiving these radio signals through my head I believed every incredible lie that I was told; seawalls, earthquakes, tsunamis, food replicators, free energy devices, career opportunities with the galactic commands and of course, ascension. (Keep in mind everyone, we believe we incarnated for a reason, and you know, I still believe this entire civilization is our stage to prove ourselves and we will be offered so much more of what this universe has to offer when it is all over.

So let’s show this universe what we are made of.) My question is though, why did you all believe this? You simply trusted me because you know I would never purposely lie to you. This is why this mind influencing program is such a threat to be taken seriously.

Does anything come to mind here? What about all those cult leaders who believed they heard the voice of God in their head and lead others so far astray? Keep in mind though; I feel it is entirely possible to control the entire population through the use of a broad band radio signal, or a ‘wide range’ of radio signals, so no leaders will be required to lead anyone.

I will make you all a deal. If the most popular channels out there do not begin to speak these same words that you have read here today, I will gladly admit I was wrong and you will never hear from me again, which already should make some of you very happy.

The bad guys haven't turned on the radio signals yet for everybody. But I am told this is coming. This is what you need to be concerned about. The good guys used these radio signals on for me to allow me to understand this process, and allow me to believe what may be, for some, quite unbelievable. But the bad guys are never going to turn them off.

You will walk, even run, all the way across your entire state and open up the gate yourself and walk into one of these concentration camps if we do not join together and form a resistance.

I will start posting photographs of all of these concentration camps on my new site. You will all see this, and if you don't believe me now just keep an open mind, for all the other channels that you listen to will begin, soon perhaps, to tell you the same story I'm telling you today.

I have been briefed on our new mission, our real mission. I am now briefing you. Our mission is to inform every single member of humanity, if that's what it takes, that this mind control programming is a very real threat and we must take steps to defend ourselves. And mind control is a stronger buzz word right, even if it’s more accurate to say mind influencing?

This mind control program will use simple radiofrequency waves that can and will turn us into zombies, slaves, to a handful of very devious and very cunning minds who do not love you and who want to treat you like cattle, for they see you as cattle and they even have their cattle ranches ready for you in the form of concentration camps.

You were not tricked and you are not being conned. You were being done a favor. You were being educated that this mind control program is real and that it is very effective. Can any of you honestly look yourself in the mirror and tell yourself that this mind control program is not effective? Did you all believe you're getting a debit card?

Maybe some of you didn't, but many of you believed in the seawall project, the food replicators, the free energy devices, and you believed in the GFL and the AC did you not? You also believed in ascension, did you not? Well, I still believe we all will ascend after we die, and keep in mind, if we do not fight this mind control program that is coming and we do not emerge victorious you will find out for yourself very soon enough if ascension is real or not, because you are not needed by the bad guys and they're not going to feed us in these camps and they are not going to give us medical attention, and I tell you right now, one of these concentration camps holds about 2 million people, it is located in Alaska, and there are no indoor facilities. Do you understand what I just said? We will all freeze to death. And that is just one of their camps.

I'm sorry that you are being frightened right now. Those who share their messages through me are real, though the poetry portion of our education is over. Now it is time to get down to brass tacks, and that's a metaphor, which means now it is time to get serious and get real and keep our two feet on the ground. We have all learned that none of us knows anything about the higher dimensions that we have not received by way of a channel, am I right?
This is why we were given this lesson. We needed to understand that all of this baloney that we bought, we bought from channels who bought it because they were being sent simple radio signals through their brains. So do you understand where I'm going with this? There may be all this stuff out there in the universe, and perhaps this is how you earn a position with a galactic command, I don’t know, but it doesn't matter, because it's not coming now, but the important thing is we do know what is real and we know it’s coming, right?
The bad guys are going to turn on these radio signals, whether they come from satellites or towers and you and your entire family will march right out that the front door get in your car and drive or even walk halfway across your state to the nearest concentration camp and you will open the gate and then you may even lock it behind you, as you will have little or no power to control this.

Take it from me. My name is Greg Giles. I am the real Greg Giles and I will post an updated photograph of myself even holding a newspaper so you can see that it's me and I’m alive and well.

Do not be upset. This entire program was to help us. It was to wake us up and allow us to prepare ourselves for the day, and it appears inevitable, when the bad guys at least attempt to send their radio signals that will lock us all into a zombie-like state and force us, and yes I remind you that you will have no will of your own believe me, to voluntarily march into these camps.

Believe me, I drove down an alley in the middle of the night because something possessed me almost like a demon would, but it is not a demon. It is a simple radio signal that takes over your brain.

Trust me. I was there. I lived it, and I don't want any of you to live it because it is a nightmare. So get ready for the shock of your lives when all of your favorite channels start speaking the same words that I just spoke to you. So let's all stick together.

All of you that have been so outspoken of me and the GFL, I have a confession to make. I heard every word you said and I agreed with most of them. And you know who I am talking about. If you were not so vicious all the time I would have reached out sooner, and I was going to say, ‘Hey, I see what you're saying and believe it or not, I agree with what you're saying.

I too see something funny going on here’. But do you see how you alienated me by calling me a fraud and a liar and a scammer? Just cool it and let’s work together now. I am your friend. I am not lying to you.

So just remember that there are very powerful forces that are assisting us and helping to protect us, but again, nothing can be guaranteed. Don’t worry about who it is. You have nothing to lose here. Keep an eye out for other channels reporting what I have shared with you today, and then we will talk more about all this when you take it more seriously, as you certainly cannot be faulted for your skepticism at this time. Stay strong my friends. Greg

[nonesuch]

Here is today's post written by Greg Giles. No followup to this was posted.



Still Shining! Update to the Mysterious Events of the Past Few Days 10/1/12

Hello everyone, I just received a 'telepathic' message this morning and was told that my 'phone lines', and I am presenting metaphor here as I do not use an actual phone to channel messages', was hacked and I had received the last couple of messages from, well, I'll let you guess who was sending me these last couple of negative messages. It was not the GFL or the Ashtar Command, to give you a hint in the right direction. I am a little uncertain about all of this at this time, and I will write a longer and more detailed explanation later on today for you, for it is early here and I just wanted to get this message out to those who have been following the messages shared through me and have sent me their love and support over the last few days. Keep the faith everyone, just like all of you did when no one, and I mean not one single light filled person wavered in their beliefs after reading the last couple of messages I posted. Good for you everyone! We have been learning to hold fast to our convictions and you all did. Great job! You should all be very proud of yourselves. I also wish to thank everyone for your kind words and all the love and light you have sent my way over the past few days. I love you all too. Keep shining that light!

[music]

Notice that the Colorado shooting, as part of the Batman mind-control experience (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48115-The-Batman-mind-control-experience.) is pivotal to this bleak message of disappointment and hopelessness. A few weeks ago, Giles was telling people to get guns, through this supposed higher awareness. Another channel (whom, like giles, I have never resonated with), Aruna C Byers also had a channel where her mis-appropriated ascended master told us all to get guns to fight the power.

And so we see how they want, want, want so badly that we take up arms against them, because this is the only way they can win. As I mentioned before on Bill's strange energy thread, to initiate martial law is their only hope for getting the police and the military on side. Most police and military personal are decent people (for the large part), misguided and brainwashed sure, but not willing to shoot and inter their fellow citizens other than under the "emergency" of martial law. Don't give in to the hate, don't feed the fear. The love of higher consciousness is remedy to all fear - when we love the things we fear, their power disolves, and we see them as the manipulator's illusions that they are.

[music]

I don't see any reason to become fearful. Greg opened himself intentionally to mind control, on many levels

My understanding is that Giles was "contacted" as a rehabilitating drug-addict. The perfect time to get into someone's mind, and his "counsellors" obviously steered him in the right direction to open himself up like a flower.

You are correct, we have no need to fear if we maintain awareness. They may use frequency to disrupt optimal bodily functioning, but a strong mind and a love-filled heart are like garlic to this vampire.

[nonesuch]

If you read Greg's posts and are feeling a bit uneasy, take a breather and let 'old reliable' bring you back to one of life's happier realities.



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[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

This whole thing looks like a circus. A man who listen to voices in his mind, people who follow him...All of this is ridiculous.

To make things worse, he makes a huge post contradicting everything he´s been saying for years, then he changes his mind again.

If I was to make a guess, I would say this whole post was more like an outflow from his own consciousness. As much as he could enjoy this GFL stuff, no one could live actively participating in a such a delusion for such a long time.

This is a classic symptom of a delusional person, you know, once in a while sanity grabs the driving wheel again, even if it´s for just a brief moment.

Personally, I don´t trust people who claim to hear voices in their minds; Probably, in a million, just a couple of persons are the real deal; the rest is simply lying or suffering from mental illness.

In fact, why some people rely on someone else´s words, specially someone they don´t even know, to give direction to their lives in the first place? This is complete nonsense.

People should look forward to have their own thoughts, instead of grabbing other people´s crazy thoughts and making them a fundamental part of their lives.

Really, I read some comments on his blog and I´m really sad about how some people are so quick to believe such a monumentally gigantic piece of crap...They are all "hugging" him instead of demanding a plausible explanation.

It makes me even more sad to think that most of these people consider themselves "awake".

Cheers,

Raf.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

What did i tell you about talking to strangers!


I have already covered this weeks and months and years ago.

Greg, if its him talking, is right in a way. They do have the technology to influence you but you do not need to fear it. If you know your self you can ignore what it tells you to do.

We are all radio frequency receivers and transmitters. We can be tuned into and broadcast to.

They can put an image in your mind of just about anything but if you have not made a connection properly and examined it then you may not know what to believe.

So go inside your self and get to release your deepest fears. These are what they will use against you. Do not give in to confusion or emotion but remain neutral and use logic. They tried to manipulate me too but i worked out the loop holes.

We are autonomous to the point we believe in control. Your belief s what is un shakeable. Be solid in who you are and do not waver.

Know thy self
Do not fear
Walk the middle path

:-)

Smile

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Aaah

[TelosianEmbrace]

Hi to all the forum-watching mind controllers out there.

Indeed, you are watching us and interested in how we perceive our reality. You are interested in seeing how we digest the information that Greg Giles was a mind controlled channel, and one of your imperatives would be to make the process more streamlined so that your stories will be more believable in the future. I have news for you. As you are watching us, we are aware of your often silent presence upon our forums. Very soon the tide shall turn, and all actions done with any thought of misleading the public will come to light. We are waking up to the many and varied tools you use to mislead us, and we are not happy. The future of Earth is one of honesty, humility, kindness, community, and many other beautiful expressions of our Human Divinity. You know of what I speak. Each day your power over us as a collective wanes. Our steadiness, our perseverance and search for knowledge, is transforming the collective of the once ignorant masses. We know it, and you know it. This process is unstoppable. Free energy will be ours, interstellar travel will be ours, the right to clean up the Earth of all poisons and pollution is ours. The right to eat fresh food, to breathe fresh air, to walk in a pristine environment, is ours.

Another thing I've learnt. The more you deny us, the more you judge us and attempt to destroy and derail us, the stronger we become. It is a simple fact of existence that what you judge and despise, you empower. And we are becoming very powerful. We will reclaim our Divinity, our self belief, our inner peace, no matter what you do.

I come for you.

[zenith]

Not sure if it's within the original blog posts nonesuch posted above or if it's still on the site
(reading through it all once was more than enough for me) but what caught my eye was at
the end people are advised to do an internet search of their full names to seek more info.

Hmmm. :suspicious:


PS: Just checked, It's gone. ;)

[The Truth Is In There]

For those who are still interested, below is a copy of the entire message the GFL delivered through Greg Giles that was posted on his blog yesterday, but taken down today.

[...]
They don't know what it means, so folks, your world is not ending in December of 2012. [B]There will be no great catastrophes either. That’s all science fiction hocus-pocus smoke and mirrors. It's all a lie. It is all fiction. It is just a fairy tale. Go on with your lives. Your society will live on through 2013, 2014, 2015 and beyond, so don't worry about it. Again, all this ascension, all of this catastrophe, it will not happen, and for those of you who do not believe this you will find out soon, so just get prepared for a little let down, but remember, we do believe you are all eternal so this is not your only life. That is only what we believe. We have no facts to back this up. As we say, you don't know, so how could we know?
[...]

yeah, and the bunkers and underground cities are hocus-pocus, too. more love & lighter wishful thinking and delusions. the next few years will bring worldwide destruction of heretofore unseen proportions. i don't need to be mind controlled to spell this out.

[gooty64]

Some on this thread have mentioned that they don't "get" or know what Greg Giles-(one among many internet channelers) is all about or why someone would believe or follow this "stuff".

Imagine a newly awakening person searching for answers/support in the internet age in this mad world, think about it.

Here is an example of Greg Giles message from November 2011.

Early in this video it says, "Message channeled by Greg Giles".

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[Earth Angel]

this message above posted by Gooty64, seems to be of a totally different level.....even the language used.......the message that has been deleted claiming it was all a test seemed very poorly written to me .......would that not in itself be a clue to Greg Giles before he even posted it that this was coming from somewhere else....and its like a small seed of doubt planted, if you cant rely on who you are receiving then what part of the message can you rely on

[niki]

Free energy will be ours, interstellar travel will be ours, the right to clean up the Earth of all poisons and pollution is ours. The right to eat fresh food, to breathe fresh air, to walk in a pristine environment, is ours.


is this going to be another made-up wishful-thinking scam?...

which one is real, and which one is made-up BS now?... honestly, I can't tell anymore..

I'm tired....very tired.
I guess time to go back to the 'physical' normal everyday's mundane reality/real-world...

[DeDukshyn]

Free energy will be ours, interstellar travel will be ours, the right to clean up the Earth of all poisons and pollution is ours. The right to eat fresh food, to breathe fresh air, to walk in a pristine environment, is ours.


is this going to be another made-up wishful-thinking scam?...

which one is real, and which one is made-up BS now?... honestly, I can't tell anymore..

I'm tired....very tired.
I guess time to go back to the 'physical' normal everyday's mundane reality/real-world...

Right now humanity is coming up to a crossroads where the choices of each individual will lead the earth into one of two directions: (or "split" the earth vibrationally between these two states if one believes the split earth theory)

Here is one of those directions: Free energy will be ours, interstellar travel will be ours, the right to clean up the Earth of all poisons and pollution is ours. The right to eat fresh food, to breathe fresh air, to walk in a pristine environment, is ours.

Here is the other: Humanity snuffs itself (or puts itself into an insufferable state)

Now, which one of these "future events" is real? It matters not, because any speculation into this "realness" is merely speculation. The only thing that matters is that you make the choices to distinctly go in one of those directions.

What you are asking is "what is in the future?"

The answer is in your choices, because no one can see the future. Potential timelines, yes, these can be seen, this where we have one of two choices.

By the time people sit around doing nothing waiting to see what will be the "real" outcome, their inactivity and energy wasting on wondering and waiting on what the future will bring rather than choosing, will ineveitably impact the outcome.

[Earth Angel]

thanks DeDukshyn........haha only when typing your name did I finally realize what you were called......love your post.......that's what I am hoping/feeling is the case......I think that is in line with Dolores Cannon's message too.

[meat suit]

Free energy will be ours, interstellar travel will be ours, the right to clean up the Earth of all poisons and pollution is ours. The right to eat fresh food, to breathe fresh air, to walk in a pristine environment, is ours.


is this going to be another made-up wishful-thinking scam?...

which one is real, and which one is made-up BS now?... honestly, I can't tell anymore..

I'm tired....very tired.
I guess time to go back to the 'physical' normal everyday's mundane reality/real-world...

thats it... in and out the rabbit holes...zooming in and zooming out.. thats where you get your bandwidth.... when you are exhausted, spend time in nature, its the real thing...:)

[DeDukshyn]

thanks DeDukshyn........haha only when typing your name did I finally realize what you were called......love your post.......that's what I am hoping/feeling is the case......I think that is in line with Dolores Cannon's message too.

No hoping!! ;)

You only need to hope when you feel desperate, and when you are feeling desperate, you make choices to alleviate that desperation, rather than choices that lead you to your goal. This is how TPTW traps us -- by promoting feelings of desperation, and then offering something that is better than that which created the feelings of desperation, where it is readily accepted, and is exactly what they wanted -- to take away your true dreams and offering you the choice of two -- bad and worse -- but each serves them.

When I say to people "Be Un-Reasonable" I mean it; make your choices out of love - not out of reasons. There's a good chance that via your "reasons" someone is trying to control your actions for their desired outcome. When you abondon your reasons and make true choices from love, their tactics cannot work. It is really this simple. Be unpredictable, and unreasonable. Abondon reasons for choices out of love. One is often surprised how their fears were unwarranted when they begin this process. The Universe unconditionally supports those that choose with love.

Sorry EA I took one word you said, to make into my topic for this post, but I am glad you chose that word so I had this oppurtunity to post this for all ;) Thanks!

[Anchor]

One reason that the negatively oriented people can so easily subvert the positively oriented ones, is that the positives often forget that lying and deceit exist at all, because it does not match their world view: on top of that the negatives can lie with the skill of a master samurai swordsmen.

It is no surprise that the negs continue to score a lot of hits.

I think that even though it does not feel like it, there are more positively motivated people on the planet than negative, yet we only see the drama that sticks out like a sore thumb over the backdrop of what is an emerging enlightened consciousness among positively oriented people.

For me, I liken the "service" provided by the negatives can be likened to those people at school who realized how gullible I was and what an easy mark I was for a wind-up! However, because out of this, I was able to wise up to the ways of them.

The school of hard knocks is still functioning.

Do we not honor the process?

Are not even the least among the deceivers part of the totality of creation?

[DeDukshyn]

One reason that the negatively oriented people can so easily subvert the positively oriented ones, is that the positives often forget that lying and deceit exist at all, because it does not match their world view: on top of that the negatives can lie with the skill of a master samurai swordsmen.

It is no surprise that the negs continue to score a lot of hits.

I think that even though it does not feel like it, there are more positively motivated people on the planet than negative, yet we only see the drama that sticks out like a sore thumb over the backdrop of what is an emerging enlightened consciousness among positively oriented people.

For me, I liken the "service" provided by the negatives can be likened to those people at school who realized how gullible I was and what an easy mark I was for a wind-up! However, because out of this, I was able to wise up to the ways of them.

The school of hard knocks is still functioning.

Do we not honor the process?

Are not even the least among the deceivers part of the totality of creation?

Good post, I'll add this;

People are attracted to that which they perceive as serving them. This whole process is one of a learning, even learning that extends beyond a lifetime. This is the school of hard knocks.

Eventually people will figure out that following others is not serving them, that reacting to others or events does not serve them, that their fear does not serve them. But through the learning process these things are required, thus it serves them for what is needed, which in the end is finding out that "thing" which actually does serve them and not serve their illusions that they create. Love is the only concept that fits that bill. ;)

And ... as a little factual tidbit that came about as a result of our governments desire to super strengthen all crime laws and spend billions on more prisons to get "tougher on crime", it was quickly revealed that Crime in Canada was at it's lowest point in over a decade by a fairly large margin. What we see in the media and what the government "reacts" to: Crime is out of control and a huge issue that we need to spend billions on correcting. What is real: Crime is at nearly it's lowest recorded point. I can see why our PM is keen on getting rid of all scientific statistcal programs. It all makes perfect sense. ;)

[niki]

Free energy will be ours, interstellar travel will be ours, the right to clean up the Earth of all poisons and pollution is ours. The right to eat fresh food, to breathe fresh air, to walk in a pristine environment, is ours.


is this going to be another made-up wishful-thinking scam?...

which one is real, and which one is made-up BS now?... honestly, I can't tell anymore..

I'm tired....very tired.
I guess time to go back to the 'physical' normal everyday's mundane reality/real-world...

Right now humanity is coming up to a crossroads where the choices of each individual will lead the earth into one of two directions: (or "split" the earth vibrationally between these two states if one believes the split earth theory)

Here is one of those directions: Free energy will be ours, interstellar travel will be ours, the right to clean up the Earth of all poisons and pollution is ours. The right to eat fresh food, to breathe fresh air, to walk in a pristine environment, is ours.

Here is the other: Humanity snuffs itself (or puts itself into an insufferable state)

Now, which one of these "future events" is real? It matters not, because any speculation into this "realness" is merely speculation. The only thing that matters is that you make the choices to distinctly go in one of those directions.

What you are asking is "what is in the future?"

The answer is in your choices, because no one can see the future. Potential timelines, yes, these can be seen, this where we have one of two choices.

By the time people sit around doing nothing waiting to see what will be the "real" outcome, their inactivity and energy wasting on wondering and waiting on what the future will bring rather than choosing, will ineveitably impact the outcome.

@DeDukshyn : even if my choices are to really truly love, and believe (with all my heart, mind, and Imaginations) that dragons, Magic techniques like those in amazing video-games or movies like Lord of the Rings, 'futuristic' universe like TRON, and castles in the sky (to name just a very few) they all really exist, and will manifest in OUR time??......

What do you all mean exactly by 'believe' and 'choose' ?...
is there a *Limit* to what I myself can believe/choose?...or not?
can I manifest those super-vivid Imaginations that often/always exist in my head ? .....or not?
where's the line?
and how do you know?

[Selene]

So: the scammers at NSA have admitted their radio-waved “telepathic” messages into Greg Giles brain were a deliberate psy op. There was never any Galactic Federation transmitting from Beyondananda. It was all a deliberate mind control “experiment” (hah!) conducted by our own resident human evil-doers, our own Dr. Dementos and company, Mengele’s creepy heirs.

Fine.

We knew that even if few believed us. Now it’s on the record, for which we must surely thank a few courageous souls, Greg Giles not least included.

But, if you take as a general rule of thumb that black ops is functionally incapable of telling the truth in a simple, straightforward way but instead by nature will think three or four chess moves of deception ahead we cannot, regrettably, take anything said by Giles here at face value. There has to be a further NSA agenda here. Yes, it’s probably correct that he was scammed – and kudos to Greg for recognizing and admitting this – but they’ve also pumped and dumped a bunch of other hooey into this exercise.

If they are dumping the GFL schtick overboard as discredited (in no small part due to the diligence of Avalonians, if I may say so…!) having conceded a partial truth they could no longer conceal, they are also using this “reveal” to further another agenda by invoking that old dodge of “Gosh, you’ve caught us, so now we’re going confess everything and tell you the whole truth, ta da! (or whatever else we want you to believe).”

Their own playbook forbids telling the whole truth: never let a crisis go to waste. Lies are a way of life there.

They’re trying to have a fire sale on disinfo here: i.e. There’s no such thing as telepathy or psychic skills, you can have no memory of your previous lives, there’s no such thing as massive flooding or inundation in your future (interesting, that….), we still rule you – for your own good, of course! – and a bunch of other blather. Well, heck, if you are willing to believe that [true] Giles was mind-controlled, perhaps you’ll also believe a lot of other [false] stuff we’d like to throw into the mix of your open mind, right?

As always, discernment is necessary. They may have conceded something they could no longer defend – but it doesn’t mean they’ve surrendered the fort.

Cheers,

Selene

[mountain_jim]

Well Quinsey (Salusa) and Nidle have not wavered from their GFL messaging at all. I imagine they are heavily personally invested in never even considering that they may have been receiving and spreading NSA-or-other-sourced scam-thoughts all these years.

[Heather2017]

Hi all. In case this hasn't already been mentioned:

As I understand it, the original 5D ascension plan was invaded. Now we're working on Ascension Plan B. :biggrin:

Various beings are pushing for possible future timelines that support their agendas--smoke and mirrors, especially in the 5th and 7th dimensions. (False ascended masters and fallen archangelics are in the 7th.)

If the spirit moves you, please focus on each being's right to experience source and ascension in an organic way. Those truly aligned to the Law of One may protect and defend, but they do not manipulate or attack.

Love to all (including the seemingly unlovable),

Heather

[enfoldedblue]

Update: Ohhhh what a mess...a facinating mess. Since I posted the first part of this drama, Greg has declared that the evreything the GFL said was real and that only the recent messages were deception. Well now it seems he has returned to the position that he was being decieved all along. Poor Greg is all over the place, and I feel for him. I do think now that he is comming from a good space and sincerely does want to assist people's awakening, but the poor man has been severly manipulated is very confused and my advice to him would be to stop trying to be a teacher in the public eye and take time away to heal and come to terms with what has transpired.

Here is a quote from one of his latest postings (his actual latest posting is a channel from his higher self...which still doesn't feel quite right to me personally):


For everyone that has followed these messages for some time, they clearly understand that there has been this nonsense talk about these seawalls, am I right? Well, we all know that this is all baloney right? So you see, it's the same source that has been sending me these messages from the beginning. Look at it this way; we all know the seawalls are not going to happen, right? We all know there will be no giant tsunamis or earthquakes, right? So that means whoever was telling us that baloney going back many months now was deceiving us right from the very beginning. So, my communications lines have not been hacked recently, for I, as well as all of you, were being deceived the whole time. That's just one example, and here's another.

What about these bogus debit cards? Many think that was a recent promise that was quickly broken, but this would be inaccurate to say. If you remember, those who share their messages through me were talking about redistribution of wealth going back a year now, and not just through me, but through other channels as well. Well, we all know now and we learned the hard way that there is no financial assistance coming, right? So you see, we were being deceived for far longer than just these recent three messages. There are more examples too including the food replicators, the homes that were going to be built for everyone on the planet and even this fictitious story about arrests of the many members of the criminal cabal. We all see now that no arrests are happening right? I mean, we would have seen something and nothing has changed. Absolutely nothing at all.More: http://www.ascensionearth2012.org/

I can't believe that people were actually waiting for to get their debit cards in the mail....lol.

[wobbegong]

...I can't believe that people were actually waiting for to get their debit cards in the mail....lol.

Double LoL!
Although...apart from the comical aspect of this scam (which is definitely there!), those posts that he removed were actually telling the "followers" to accept lies, sort of like "you've been lied to for your own good, so accept it, it was a test, it made you stronger, be happy etc." and considering thast much of this GFL propaganda is based on gaining people's allegiance through the internet, often in the form of petitions and subscriptions (like Nidle's PAOs and PAGs), I see this as a possible attempt to get a superior form of allegiance from people...one that even authorizes being lied to for your own good. IMO the ET intervention is trying to take some followers to the "next level"...does this sound too far fetched?

[applepie]

Microwave ovens are illegal in Russia.

[The Truth Is In There]

[...]
We all know there will be no giant tsunamis or earthquakes, right?
[...]


i'd love to see his face next year when it turns out he was wrong about this one. :gaah:

[Bill Ryan]

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A project for someone: to archive all the pages as they appear... as references in case they are taken down, or edited, the day after. (Seriously: a really useful thing for someone to do.)

I salute Greg Giles' commitment to the truth, but boy, is he confused. And what's publicly visible here is really important for all New Agers to understand.

[observer]

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Dr Bill Deagle and others have been stating for many years that advanced technology exists to beam thoughts, feelings and subjective experiences into targeted individuals' minds.

Click on the links below for an important 2010 Coast to Coast interview with Dr John Hall, who has been researching exactly this for a while, and who has amassed thousands of case histories:

http://projectavalon.net/John_Hall_Feb_8_2010_Hour_1.mp3
http://projectavalon.net/John_Hall_Feb_8_2010_Hour_2.mp3
http://projectavalon.net/John_Hall_Feb_8_2010_Hour_3.mp3


Let's not lose perspective here. This technology is in no way new.

Based on the ancient artifacts found strewn throughout our solar system, these kinds of mind manipulation have been going-on since the Dawn of Man. The proof is in all the failed theologies that have directed the thought process of Humanity since Homo Sapiens first appeared on the planet.

We must look at the hyperdimensional aspect of this control matrix in order to truly understand what is going-on with these telepathically implanted messages.

[Omni]

Anyway, I don´t buy this remote mind control theory at all. I know the so called "elite" has means to brainwash people but these methods are not that high-tech.
They indeed have remote mind control technology. I know this first hand. This channel is definitely a mind control victim. They have had remote mind control technology for a long time. Check CIA Mind control scientist Jose Delgado's work.


If they could simply control people´s minds using some sort of remote technology, there would be no opposition against them, which is obviously not true.
I don't see any opposition that could take them out. They definitely have it.

[enfoldedblue]

Indeed this whole situation should be a wake-up call for a lot of people. Greg has a lot of followers, who seemed to believe passionately. If anyone suggested that the idea of debit cards arriving in the mail was ludicrous, they would go into full defence mode and call their detractors negative naysayers etc. I imagine for these people Greg's new revelations would be very disturbing.

Also what is interesting, that hasn't been discussed much, is that Greg was talking about mass-arrests and aliens coming to save us. If it has now been determined that his 'source' was deliberate disinformation nonsense, wouldn't it seem likely that anyone else talking about mass-arrests is probably receiving information from same said sources?

Also I want to add that while some Channelled material is clearly coming from very dubious sources, it would be a shame to lump all channellings into the same basket. There are some incredible channellings filled with deep insight and powerful truths. Many of my most powerful teachers have been dis-incarnate beings like Seth (Seth material).

So how does one discern?: People always say 'if it resonates' , but many of these channelling are designed to make someone 'feel good' which often gets translated erroneously by the subject as resonating.
For me a simple effective means to discern whether a channelling is coming from a high source or a low source is whether is comes from a unified perspective or a dualistic one. Greg's messages often spoke of love and unity, however there was underlying 'us and them' perspective...to the point that he was eventually telling people to take up arms to fight their neighbours. At this point, when it became so blatant, it became very clear to many (though certainly not all) that something was very wrong. But this dualistic perspective, though subtler, was always present in Greg's channellings.

On the higher levels of existence the conflicts of duality are resolved and so the messages that come from these sources have a purity that transcends separation.

Another clear indicator is that entities from the higher levels know that we all have our own journeys that are perfect for us. No one needs to be saved. A channelling that suggests that we need to be saved is ultimately disempowering and clearly coming from a lower vibrational source.

Finally, a condescending tone is another clear indication that the source is from a lower vibration. At the higher levels we are all one and there is no hierarchy (oh yeah and that's another red flag...speaking of hierarchy...hierarchy of arch angels etc). We are all equal. So if the their is a tone of superiority I would suggest disregarding the information contained in the message.

[Fred Steeves]

I reckon you about summed this matter up rather nicely enfoldedblue. Way to break it down to bare bones. http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/thumb.gif

Cheers,
Fred

[mountain_jim]

Anyway, I don´t buy this remote mind control theory at all. I know the so called "elite" has means to brainwash people but these methods are not that high-tech.
They indeed have remote mind control technology. I know this first hand. This channel is definitely a mind control victim. They have had remote mind control technology for a long time. Check CIA Mind control scientist Jose Delgado's work.


If they could simply control people´s minds using some sort of remote technology, there would be no opposition against them, which is obviously not true.
I don't see any opposition that could take them out. They definitely have it.

I again refer you all to this article (with references) on synthetic telepathy science

http://deepthought.newsvine.com/_news/2010/05/21/4322682-synthetic-telepathy-the-hidden-truth

and

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6508206/SYNTHETIC-TELEPATHY-AND-THE-EARLY-MIND-WARS



SYNTHETIC TELEPATHY AND THE EARLY MIND WARS

Richard Alan Miller, c2001




and this I just found mucking around - True or not, this from a lawsuit filed in 1992

http://rense.com/political/weapons/nsa.html




Domestic Surveillance and
Mind Control Technology?




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(The following are the first six pages of evidence in a lawsuit filed by a citizen against the National Security Agency (NSA) in 1992 alleging harassment and seeking relief for same. This lawsuit was filed in the U.S. Courthouse in Washington, D.C. but later withdrawn. The bringer of this original suite reported he has brought a subsequent civil suit against some or all of the original Defendants. The text has been reformatted for easier reading but remains completely unabridged.)


Evidence for the Lawsuit filed at the U.S. courthouse in Washington, D.C.


(Civil Action xx-xxxx)


Xxx Xxxx vs NSA, Ft. George G. Meade, Maryland.

My knowledge of the National Security Agency's structure, national security activities, proprietary technologies and covert operations to monitor individual citizens.

The NSA's mission and the NSA's domestic intelligence operation
Communications Intelligence (COMINT)

Blanket coverage of all electronic communications in the U.S. and the world to ensure national security. The NSA at Ft. Meade, Maryland has had the most advanced computers in the world since the early 1960's. NSA technology is developed and implemented in part from private corporations, academia, and the general public.

Signals Intelligence (SIGINT)

The Signals Intelligence mission of the NSA has evolved into a program of decoding EMF waves in the environment for wirelessly tapping into computers and tracking persons with the electrical currents in their bodies. Signals intelligence is based on the fact that everything in the environment with an electric current in it has a magnetic field around it which gives off EMF waves. The NSA/DOD has developed proprietary advanced digital equipment which can remotely analyze all object whether (tran-maze?) or organic that have electrical activity.

Domestic Intelligence (DOMINT)

The NSA has records on all U.S. citizens. The NSA gathers information on U.S. citizens who might be of interest to any of the over 50,000 NSA agents (HUMINT). These agents are authorized by executive order to spy on anyone. The NSA has a permanent National Security Anti-Terrorist surveillance network in place. This surveillance network is completely disguised and hidden from the public.

Tracking individuals in the U.S. is easy and can effectively implemented with the NSA's electronic surveillance network. This network (DOMINT) covers the entire U.S. and involves thousands of NSA personnel, and tracks millions of persons simultaneously. Cost-effective implementation of operations is achieved by NSA computer technology designed to minimize operations costs.

NSA personnel serve in quasi-public positions in their communities and run cover business and legitimate businesses that can inform the intelligence community of persons they would want to track. NSA personnel in the community usually have cover identities such as social workers, lawyers, and business owners.


Individual citizens occasionally targeted for surveillance by independently operating NSA personnel

NSA personnel can control the lives of hundreds of thousands of individuals in the U.S. by using the NSA's domestic intelligence network and cover businesses. The operations independently run by them can sometimes go beyond the bounds of law. Long-term control and sabotage of tens of thousands of unwilling citizens by NSA operatives is likely to happen. NSA DOMINT has the ability to covertly assassinate U.S. citizens or run covert psychological control operations to cause subjects to be diagnosed with ill mental health.

NSA's domestic electronic surveillance network
As of the early 1960's the most advanced computers in the world were at the NSA, Ft. Meade. Research breakthroughs with these computers were kept for the NSA. At the present time the NSA has advanced technology computers that are 15 years ahead of present computer technology.

The NSA obtains blanket coverage of information in the U.S. by using advanced computers that use artificial intelligence to screen all communications, regardless of medium, for key words that should be brought to the attention of NSA agents/cryptologists. These computers monitor all communications at the transmitting and receiving ends. This blanket coverage of the U.S. is a result of the NSA's Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) mission.

The NSA's electronic surveillance network is based on a cellular arrangement of devices that can monitor the entire EMF spectrum. This equipment was developed, implemented and kept secret in the same manner as other electronic warfare programs.

Signals Intelligence Remote Computer Tampering
The NSA keeps track of all PCs and other computers sold in the U.S. This is an integral part of the Domestic intelligence network.

The NSA's EMF equipment can tune in RF emissions from personal computer circuit boards (while filtering out emissions from monitors and power supplies). The RF emission from PC circuit boards contains digital information on the PC. Coded RF waves from the NSA's equipment can resonate PC circuits and changedata in the PCs. Thus, the NSA can gain wireless modem-(?) entry into any computer in the country for surveillance or anti-terrorist electronic warfare.

Detecting EMF Fields in Humans for Surveillance
A subject's bioelectric field can be remotely detected, so subjects can be monitored anywhere they are. With special EMF equipment NSA cryptologists can remotely read evoked potentials (from EEGs). These can be decoded into a person's brain-states and thoughts. The subject is then perfectly monitored from a distance.

NSA personnel can dial up any individual in the country on the Signals Intelligence EMF scanning network and the NSA's computers will then pinpoint and track that person 24 hours-a-day. The NSA can pick out and track anyone in the U.S.

NSA Signals Intelligence Use of EMF Brain Stimulation
NSA Signals Intelligence uses EMF Brain Stimulation for Remote Neural Monitoring (RNM) and Electronic Brain Link (EBL). EMB Brain Stimulation has been in development since the MK Ultra program of the early 1950's which included neurological research into "radiation (non-ionizing EMF) and bioelectric research and development. The resulting secret technology is categorized at the National Security Archives as "Radiation inteligence" defined as "information from unintentionally emanated electromagnetic waves in environment, not including radioactivity or nuclear detonation."

"Signals Intelligence implemented and kept this technology secret in the same manner as other electronic warfare programs of the U.S. government. The NSA monitors available information about this technology and withholds scientific research from the public. There are also international intelligence agreements to keep this technology secret.

The NSA has proprietary electronic equipment that analyzes electrical activity in humans from a distance. NSA computer-generated brain mapping can continuously monitor all of the electrical activity in the brain continuously. The NSA records and decodes individual brain maps (of hundreds of thousands of persons) for national security purposes. EMF Brain Stimulation is also secretly used by the military for bring-to-computer links. (In military fighter aircraft, for example.)

For electronic surveillance purposes electrical activity in the speech center of the brain can be translated into the subject's verbal thoughts. RNM can send encoded signals to the brain's auditory cortex thus allowing audio communications direct to the brain (bypassing the ears). NSA operatives can use this to covertly debilitate subjects by simulating auditory hallucinations characteristic of paranoid schizophrenia.

Without any contact with the subject, Remote Neural Monitoring can map out electrical activity from the visual cortex of a subject's brain and show images from the subject's brain on a video monitor. NSA operatives see what the surveillance subject's eyes are seeing. Visual memory can also be seen. RNM can send images direct to the visual cortex, bypassing the eyes and optic nerves. NSA operatives can use this to surreptitiously put images in a surveillance subject's brain while they are in R.E.M. sleep for brain-programming purposes.

Capabilities of NSA operatives using RNM
There has been a Signals Intelligence network in the U.S. since the 1940's. The NSA, Ft. Meade has in place a vast two-way wireless RNM system which is used to track subjects and non-invasively monitor audiovisual information in their brain. This is all done with no physical contact with the subject. RNM is the ultimate method of surveillance and domestic intelligence. Speech and 3D sound, and subliminal audio can be sent to the auditory cortex of the subject's brain (bypassing the ears) and images can be sent into the visual cortex. RNM can alter a subject's perceptions, moods and motor control.

Speech cortex/auditory cortex link has become the ultimate communications system for the intelligence community. RNM allows for a complete audiovisual brain-to-computer link.

NSA Signals Intelligence Electronic Brain Link Technology
NSA SIGINT can remotely detect, identify and monitor a person's bioelectric fields.

The NSA's Signals Intelligence has the proprietary ability to remotely and non-invasively monitor information in the human brain by digitally decoding the evoked potentials in the 30-50 Hz 5 milliwatt electro-magnetic emissions from the brain.

Neuronal activity in the brain creates a shifting electrical pattern that has a shifting magnetic flux. This magnetic flux puts out a constant 30-50 Hz 5 milliwatt electromagnetic (EMF) wave. Contained in the electromagnetic emission from the brain are patterns called "evoked potentials."

Every thought, reaction, motor command, auditory event, and visual image in the brain has a corresponding "evoked potential" or net of "evoked potentials". The EMF emission from the brain can be decoded into the current thoughts, images and sounds in the subject's brain.

NSA SIGINT uses EMF-transmitted Brain Stimulators as a communications system to transmit information (as well as nervous system messages) to intelligence agents and also to transmit to the brains of covert operations subjects for a non-perceptible level).

EMF Brain stimulation works by sending a completely coded and pulsed electromagnetic signal to trigger evoked potentials (events) in the brain, thereby forming sound and visual images in the brains' neural circuits. EMF Brain Stimulation can also change a person's brain-states and affect motor control.

Two-way electronic Brain-Link is done by remotely monitoring neural audiovisual information while transmitting sound to the auditory cortex (bypassing the ears) and transmitting faint images to the visual cortex (bypassing the optic nerves and eyes). The images appear as floating 2-D screens in the brain.

Two-way electronic Brain Link has become the ultimate communications system for CIA/NSA personnel. Remote neural monitoring (RNM, remotely monitoring bioelectric information in the human brain) has become the ultimate surveillance system. It is used by a limited number of agents in the U.S. Intelligence Community.

RNM requires decoding the resonance frequency of each specific brain area. That frequency is then modulated in order to impose information in that specific brain area. The frequency to which the various brain areas respond varies from 3 Hz. to 50 Hz. Only NSA Signals Intelligence modulates signals in this frequency band.

An example of EMF Brain Stimulation


Brain Area
Bioelectric Resonance Frequency
Information Induced Through Modulation

Motor Control Cortex
10 Hz
Motor impulse coordination

Auditory Cortex
15 Hz
Sound which bypasses the ears

Visual Cortex
25 Hz
Images in the brain bypassing the eyes

Somatosensory Cortex
9 Hz Phantom touch sense

Thought Center
20 Hz
Imposed Subconscious Thoughts


This modulated information can be put into the brain at varying intensities from subliminal to perceptible.

Each person's brain has a unique set of bioelectric resonance/entrainment frequencies. Sending audio information to a person's brain at the frequency of another person's auditory cortex would result in that audio information not being perceived.

The Plaintiff learned of RNM by being in two-way RNM contact with the Kinnecome group at the NSA, Ft. Meade. They used RNM 3D sound direct to the brain to harass the Plaintiff from 10/90 to 5/91. As of 5/91 they have had two-way RNM communications with the Plaintiff and have used RNM to attempt to incapacitate the Plaintiff and hinder the Plaintiff from going to the authorities about their activities against the Plaintiff in the last twelve years.

The Kinnecome group has about 100 persons working 24 hours-a-day at Ft. Meade. They have also brain-tapped persons the Plaintiff is in contact with to keep the Plaintiff isolated. This is the first time ever that a private citizen has been harassed with RNM and has been able to bring a lawsuit against NSA personnel misusing this intelligence operation method.

NSA techniques and Resources
Remote monitoring/tracking of individuals in any location, inside any building, continuously, anywhere in the country.

A system for inexpensive implementation of these operations allows for thousands of persons in every community to be spied on covertly by the NSA.

Remote RNM Devices
NSA's RNM equipment remotely reads the evoked potentials (EEGs) of the human brain for tracking individuals and can send mental images through the nervous system to affect their performance.


(End of material received)

"EOTL make no claims for the authenticity of the allegations and claims contained in this document, nor can we prove this technology exists. Nevertheless, it is an interesting lawsuit to ponder."

[Anchor]

Enfoldedblue, that was a great summary.

It can be helpful to look out for is elements in a message or teaching that stray over the line between presenting information into a place where you feel it is trying to manipulate you or tell you what you should or should not think or do.

The fact that some of the GFL type channelings even bother to address the various ridicule that they have been subjected to suggests to me that they are not of the highest source and are out to win another round of a polarity play.

[Hervé]

Notice the date this seminar was taking place... and the data that were already available at that time.

From: http://www.freezone.de/english/cbr/e_telepa.htm (http://www.freezone.de/english/cbr/e_telepa.htm)

TELEPATHY SEMINAR
BY CAPT. W. B. ROBERTSON
27. October 1984
FRANKFURT


Very good. Alright. This is the 27. October 1984. This is Frankfurt, Germany.

And we are going to do a Pilot Telepathic Seminar - and some drills. And this will be the Pilot for the 1985 February New Civilization Free Zone Congress that we are going to be doing and that will be video-taped. The tapes will be on sale.

But this one will include some Supervision of the drills and methods of Telepathy. I will just go ahead and give what I will be giving in February as the first part of the tape, so that you can all see how you can experience that and have it. And later on you can tell me if there is anything that should be changed or if a different gradient should be used.

So I will just tell it as if we were at the seminar. You understand? OK.
* * * * *
Welcome to the Telepathic Seminar... and I see that all of you that are here need to do some understandings and drills about Telepathy. Because if you were a totally experienced Telepath you could have monitored this meeting from outside somewhere and you wouldn't have needed to pay the entrance fee!

So we can then assume from that that you do need to regain your ability to do Telepathy. And to improve it. And the reason I say regain and improve is because Telepathy is not something that is pasted onto you like a science or a schoolbook study or some new acquisition. It is something that you have the inherent ability to do just as when you are a child you have the ability inherently to talk. You only must learn the words, you only must learn how to do it with the air and the throat and the sounds. So it is with Telepathy.

The history of Telepathy is very long, let us say. In the ages in the past before life on Planet Earth there were many other civilizations - you see about them in the Science Fiction Books and so on. People recall them very well. There was Telepathy in those civilizations. It was used both as a communication-device and as just way to communicate between friends and families and people who were engaged in similar occupations.

However, through the ages this became almost a secret and as we go through the history of Earth we find many secret references to Telepathy or we find critical references or scoffing references which seem to indicate that it is just something of the imagination, it is not really true, it doesn't really occur, it's only some mystical fantasy. Well, that is the same thing you could say about a baby who is going: "Agag guga guga wah." You could say: "You see, he can't talk. All those sounds coming out of there they don't mean anything!" Yes, you could say that about a child and people who say that are like that child in Telepathy. Because they can't do it, they cannot believe that anyone else can do it either. Or they have lost their ability and had it soundly invalidated.

So the history on this planet has been one of secrecy and involved with religious or occult practices. You have these stories of people with mental powers to read the mind, mental powers to communicate thoughts to you over a distance, mental power to wake you up in the middle of the night with some revelation, you have stories about people hearing voices ...... what are all these things? Not all of them are Telepathy, because people can imagine these things, but some of them are probably and possibly Telepathy. You've all heard stories of some mother who knew that her child was in trouble, or someone who knew that the sister or the brother or the family-member wished to contact them and they just knew it. And so they call them on the phone and they said: "Yes! I was just thinking about you!"

What does this mean? This means that there is a linking line, a line that joins those two people. And therefore there has been some communication along that line. The fact that it occurs rarely and it is talked of in various terms as: "I had a realization", "Woman's intuition", "I knew that my sister wanted to talk to me", "I felt that it was time to go and do it and, you know, it was the right time. I found out exactly that that was the right time to go, because otherwise we would have lost the whole house" and so on.

What are these people doing? They are using abilities. And when they talk about them other people say: "Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes..." And if they go to a scientist or a physician or a psychologist about this, they say: "Oh, ah, ah, ah... yes, yesyesyes... well, the higher animals do have instinctual responses to their environments... and a dog can sniff the wind... - sniff, sniff - and eh... preconceive. And he can sense things far off and it's something like... oh, I believe it's a remnant of an old animalistic trait in the human being." Sorry, that's not what it is. That's not what it is.

What it is is an actual method of communication - a method of knowing something over a distance, across the space, across time, from one area to another, by the ability of the person to know, to understand, to reach across there and pick up information from the other side.

So, the history of this has been one such that there are quite a few "interest groups", shall we say, that will not want this subject to become widespread. I can predict, for instance, that the telephone company would not like it. Yes. The gamblers would not like it. You see? The people who are trying to fool you and trick you... they would not like it either. People who depend on you for money through your communication like the post office, the telegraph, the telex people. Why, if you just had trained telepathy at each end you wouldn't need any of it. These people will not be interested in this program. They would be interested to stop it so that they can continue to make their own money.

But my interest in this is not to make money. It is to make able telepaths. The reason that I want to make able telepaths is because during the history - in the history of Telepathy - it has all been okay to talk about it and it's been: "Okay, it's a mystery, some people can do it, some people can't." It really didn't matter too much. But today it matters. Today it matters. Because today we have a situation in the planet, or on the planet, on Earth, between the major military powers and major financial powers and major psychological warfare powers. And they are starting to research and develop Telepathy. And they are using it. Their intention is to keep it a secret from you and to use it to control you and run their spy network operations on you and against you. The military secrets involved in this are kept just as they kept the secrets of the atom bomb.

The early days of the atom bomb, the early days of the laser beam, the spaceship, the rocket-engines, the ion-engines - you say: "What's an ion-engine?" - well, it's still a secret.

Yes, these things are secret because they are being used in a way which if found out people would be a little upset about it. And maybe they wouldn't want to pay their good, hard-earned money to the government that was doing it. And perhaps they would protest and some politicians would fall from favor. Nevertheless they are doing it and it constitutes a threat to each and every one of us on the planet unless we have a defensive mechanism and a counter-mechanism to it. You see, telepathic spying already exists on this planet. They are already using it. But when you are finished with this course you will know more about it than they do, I guarantee you.


[...]

Full article: http://www.freezone.de/english/cbr/e_telepa.htm (http://www.freezone.de/english/cbr/e_telepa.htm)

[danimyl]

IMO the ET intervention is trying to take some followers to the "next level"...does this sound too far fetched?

Like registering for a political party, right wobbegong? If some higher political authority in the local galaxy (which the fictitious GFL is certainly NOT - but which do exist among groups of nations for the purpose of maintaining stability among trading members) were to come along and say "mercenary ET collectives trying to usurp human sovereignty: what gives you the right to do this to the natives of the Earth?" all they would have to do is point to their enrollment and say "We're sorry, but is there an opposing mandate that outweighs what we have assembled here?"


So how does one discern?: People always say 'if it resonates' , but many of these channelling are designed to make someone 'feel good' which often gets translated erroneously by the subject as resonating.

Enfoldedblue is on to something here. A powerful quote on this from a Teaching called "Discerning False Messengers:"


the ambitious will assign themselves the role and the privilege of delivering messages from a higher source. Unfortunately, these people often become representatives of the Intervention and proponents of the whole [ET/Intervention] Pacification Program. They have very strong views about what is spiritual, and then they appeal to higher powers to substantiate what they believe and to anoint them as the representatives of a greater truth. How perfect this is for the Intervention.

People who assign themselves these roles and responsibilities are not the Emissaries of the Creator. At best, they are the emissaries of their own ambition and their own failed ideologies. At worse, they fall into service to powers that they cannot even recognize and begin to endorse, represent and propose things, the source of which is unknown to them. They have claimed that they are not the authors of their own demonstration, and because they do not want to even think that they are the authors of their own demonstration, they will naturally appeal to any other source that to them represents a kind of spiritual power.

It is this kind of self-deception, it is this kind of self-glorification that would make one extremely vulnerable to manipulation from beyond.

[wobbegong]

IMO the ET intervention is trying to take some followers to the "next level"...does this sound too far fetched?

Like registering for a political party, right wobbegong? If some higher political authority in the local galaxy (which the fictitious GFL is certainly NOT - but which do exist among groups of nations for the purpose of maintaining stability among trading members) were to come along and say "mercenary ET collectives trying to usurp human sovereignty: what gives you the right to do this to the natives of the Earth?" all they would have to do is point to their enrollment and say "We're sorry, but is there an opposing mandate that outweighs what we have assembled here?"
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I couldn't have said it better myself, thanks Danimyl.
This concept really struck me, I remember even in George Green's Handbooks there is an explanation about something of that sort. I think this makes the Declaration of Human Sovreignty (discussed here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41627-A-Declaration-of-Human-Sovereignty&p=566907&highlight=declaration+human#post566907) a very important asset...we should organize some way to sign up to it.

[Nickolai]

Microwave ovens are illegal in Russia.

Hi,

Where did you get the info?

LOL

[eileenrose]

I didn't post the 'Russian ban microwaves', but I just googled it

here is one of many articles on this topic
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/04/27/why-did-russia-ban-the-use-of-microwave-ovens/


ps: I heard in the 1990's that Germany had written warnings on their microwaves. So I knew way back then to never use one (except in emergencies). Easy decision. Hate microwaved food.

[Nickolai]

OK,

So you talk here not about Russia but about the USSR and the ban that happened in the 70s.
Misleading at the least...

Nickolai

[Anchor]

When was the ban repealed (IE: when did people start buying microwave ovens?)

The point is that its obvious someone knew there was more to microwaves than easy cooking.

[Nickolai]

It was repealed in the begining of the 90s.
And no, I do not like the microwave food as well.

Nickolai

[we-R-one]

If this isn't an obituary for GFL channeling, nothing is!

Bill I just got done watching this interview that you and Kerry did with Bob Dean. He seems adamant that The Galactic Federation exists. Would love to hear your thoughts???



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s7c15K4kLo&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s7c15K4kLo&feature=relmfu

[we-R-one]

He's verifiying at the end of the video what I have often said....we are living in an illusion....a hologram. Which is why I often comment on the importance of understanding the knowledge of Holographic Universe.

[ThePythonicCow]

Bill I just got done watching this interview that you and Kerry did with Bob Dean. He seems adamant that The Galactic Federation exists. Would love to hear your thoughts???
If I understand your question correctly, Bill wrote his thoughts in this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17981-Project-Camelot-Bob-Dean-a-conversation-February-2011&p=193271&viewfull=1#post193271):



Of course there are organizations out there which are alliances of advanced civilizations. This is certain.

But it may not be the same group as referenced by Mike Quinsey and other channelers.

In my words, there are likely alliance(s) of advanced civilizations, which can be termed "galactic federation(s)", and which is what I think Bob Dean was referring to.

However, in Bill's words again, from this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46690-Alien-Interrogation-Video&p=513295&viewfull=1#post513295):



Since then, the alternative media has been inundated with nonsense, false predictions, pseudo-spiritual delusion, and distractions and diversions which have been lapped up by way too many people. C.f: Elenin, Ashayana Deane, Planet X 'caught' again and again on cellphone cameras, 11-11-11, SaLuSa, the Galactic Federation of Light, Tolec, Blossom Goodchild.... the list goes on, and on, and on. Whatever happened to real research?

[bluestflame]

is a familiar tactic to muddy the waters if a real "galactic federation" or sorts exists , hence the importance of discerning bother the essence behind information posted as well as some background research

*a familiar tactic of the various alphabet agencies and elitist groups

[we-R-one]

Bill I just got done watching this interview that you and Kerry did with Bob Dean. He seems adamant that The Galactic Federation exists. Would love to hear your thoughts???
If I understand your question correctly, Bill wrote his thoughts in this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17981-Project-Camelot-Bob-Dean-a-conversation-February-2011&p=193271&viewfull=1#post193271):



Of course there are organizations out there which are alliances of advanced civilizations. This is certain.

But it may not be the same group as referenced by Mike Quinsey and other channelers.

In my words, there are likely alliance(s) of advanced civilizations, which can be termed "galactic federation(s)", and which is what I think Bob Dean was referring to.

However, in Bill's words again, from this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46690-Alien-Interrogation-Video&p=513295&viewfull=1#post513295):



Since then, the alternative media has been inundated with nonsense, false predictions, pseudo-spiritual delusion, and distractions and diversions which have been lapped up by way too many people. C.f: Elenin, Ashayana Deane, Planet X 'caught' again and again on cellphone cameras, 11-11-11, SaLuSa, the Galactic Federation of Light, Tolec, Blossom Goodchild.... the list goes on, and on, and on. Whatever happened to real research?

Yes, that was kind of where I was going....it seems that Bob Dean is held in high regard, and he specifically mentions the existence of a Galactic Federation outside this universe. Interesting that he chose those words and didn't call it something else. I do realize there has been much discussion about the difference between Galactic Federation and Galactic Federation of the Light. What I'm getting at, unless Bob was mistaken in his terminology, is there appears to be the existence of a Galactic Federation.

[enfoldedblue]

Need some help here. This thing is just gets more bizarre. Greg's latest message is now purpotedly a dialogue between him and his higher self. He now has a copywrite message on his page stating nothing can be copied without permission...so can be read here (http://www.ascensionearth2012.org/2012/10/conversation-with-my-higher-self-where.html). Unless you're really interested I wouldn't bother though...to me it sounds like the same drivel that has always come through him.

The strange part that I personally don't get is that some members of a another site I am on recieved the following email:

Gov. George Wallace



This is a time in which there is lots of controversy about what is taking place in the world today. It has been revealed that Greg Giles is now with the Galactic Federation back on his home shop the New Jerusalem, with his father, Sananda.



I wish to explain a bit further about the placement of Greg on the Internet giving his messages of light to all of humanity. It was done in order for all of us to see and feel the love that was inherent around the globe. As he sent forth the messages, he did so with the full knowledge that it may not continue too long with out the interference of the powers that serve the fear energy.



This was proven to be true, for as he sent forth the messages of truth, the ones who sought to retain their power over the people took their measures to silence him. They did so in the manner that he foresaw could happen. He saw this as an opportunity for the people to see what it really represented, and how they were being given the opportunity to use their own discernment. That is the degree of trust that Greg had for the people of this earth.



He did this because he was one of the ones who brought forth the disciples that followed Jesus around his path of enlightenment. He was the son of Jesus and Mary and as he saw what was taking place he vowed that he would forever serve in the light that his father brought to the people. He knew that through the evolvement of the species of humanity there would be an ensnarement of the people by the ones who sought to empower themselves in the energy of control through fear.



That is when he began his pilgrimage through the evolvement of humanity. He did so in his own evolvement, through the destiny that he was created for. It came to be that he gave his life in several lifetimes in order for his word to get out to the people. He gave his life in those lifetimes for the evolutionary process to strengthen in what he saw to be an ever present series of steps that were to be taken in the pursuit of the power that would disempower all of humanity who did not join forces with them.



It is now the time in which this is all coming to a head, as is expressed by so many. It is time for the truth to come out, and as it does it will show people who read and hear of this that there is only one power that has the complete ability to discern and tune in to what is truth. That is the inner voice of each and every one, as the strength of the creator is felt and accessed in full.



I now identify who I am and I wish to show you that there is a wonderful new awakening coming for all of you. I am the one who seeks to walk with you in the throes of the almighty truth and to see with you what it is that you have been being shown. I am Governor George Wallace of the United States and I have been in communication with the rest of the ones who have walked in this energy of truth since leaving the planet. I saw what was taking place all along this journey since I left the planet and the identity in which I played my part.



Now I seek to instill within each and every one of you to turn inward to your own inner guidance and to know what it is that is taking place. In this way you will be able to walk these steps to freedom and be able to show the universe what it is that you are capable of. I commend you all who read this and pass it along, for within your own knowingness is your knowledge of using the discernment with which you came into existence.



I love you all so dearly, and I ask that you realize that no matter what you do on earth and no matter how it turns out, there is always a matter of what brought it about and what is learned from it. You are dearly loved! Walk in that, and come to your destined ascension in full glory!



Thank you dear Governor George Wallace,

Love, Nancy Tate

**************************************

I do not know who Nancy Tate is and I do not know who George Wallace is (my only knowledge of him is based on the following comment : "For those of you to young to remember who George Wallace was... he was a racist, youth hater governor that was shot and crippled but should have been removed. He was a hate filled lunatic. To use this mans id to announce Greg Giles "death" is the most insane chapter yet. Sorry .... you folks that are writing this crap need to go the way of Greg and George if you ask me."

********************** (sorry I haven't mastered the quotes yet...)

Just reporting another strange twist down the rabbit hole.

[eileenrose]

I read the first paragraph (from the new link to greg listed in the post above). My recommendation (opposite of one given him), is to cut all ties and never ever use ESP again (too compromised).

That is what I would tell anyone who channels. Just stop. Cold turkey. There are plenty of other avenues to communicate with source that don't need a 2nd (and in his case, 3rd or multiple) parties involved. It just muddies the waters (on a good day) and on a bad.....will we all know know what Greg's 'bad days' look like. Pretty bad.

[Ahauchata]

On a personal level Greg Giles channelled messages never resonated on my end, and not to afford judgement, obviously, since it is 'his journey' yet on this end, at least now he is tuning into his Higher Self. I have never been to keen on the concept of channeling myself, and I do not permit it via my personal experiences, (and not sure on this end if I believe it) because I hold firm that all knowledge and what is the concept of knowing is within each of us. Just my personal take. :)

[bluestflame]

where there are no "leaders" , there can be no "followers "

[Ahauchata]

Also; I really had a hard time digesting Greg Giles channellings because while I do feel everything that can be experienced I suppose does yet, I really had a hard time swallowing what I felt was this "Star Wars" type of channellings, simply because of many factors like the concept that 'extraterristrals' are ready to save the planet and beam people up to these so called Mother Ships to me is just not a resonating factor to me.
~
There is a thing called non interference and while I do believe we are not alone in the Universe still what he use to channelled smelled fishy to me.