Printable guns...almost a reality!

[GlassSteagallfan]

In the near future, open source software websites will allow you to download the cad designs for a printable gun.

Article and video:
http://www.infowars.com/printable-gun-revolution-moving-forward-despite-corporate-second-amendment-fears/

[Lost Soul]

Can't make a barrel or bolt with it. Those have to take 40,000 CUP.

[ThePythonicCow]

Can't make a barrel or bolt with it. Those have to take 40,000 CUP.

For those who wouldn't know 1 CUP from 40,000 CUP's: Copper Units of Pressure (CUP) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_units_of_pressure)

[TargeT]

In the near future, open source software websites will allow you to download the cad designs for a printable gun.

Article and video:
http://www.infowars.com/printable-gun-revolution-moving-forward-despite-corporate-second-amendment-fears/

GOOD! I can't think of a single reason this would be a bad thing.

The majority of my PS90 could be printed from a 3d printer its mostly plastic; a barrel, bolt & some springs are just a blacksmith away.

Less victims more empowered humans, I'd print them for people if I had a good 3d printer!

[kingmonkey]

Doesn't america or the world in general have enough guns already?

Now i know you are gonna place me into the left wing peace and love tree hugging bleeding heart liberal camp but really do you think there is a shortage of armed citizens in the USA?

Does having a gun empower them? Is it a natural consequence? What about the millions of people who have died due to small arms fire in the 20th and 21st century, in petty disputes and civil wars. Were they empowered. Was freedom and liberty ensured as a consequence or did the last man standing merely take all?

I've never really followed the theory that we need more guns logic personally.

People get all macho and insist on their right to bear arms, to defend their property and so on yet on so many other levels are slowly but surely giving their rights and sovereignty away. Hey man i don't mind the cia have all my personal details through google and facebook, as long as i get to tell my friends my daily bowel movements.

Sorry for the negativity in my post, im in a foul mood, one that is heightened when i see the bloody folly in humankind's behaviour.

[danceblackcatdance]

i'd love to have a gun :) (and know how to use it, just for fun like)

[TargeT]

Doesn't america or the world in general have enough guns already?

Now i know you are gonna place me into the left wing peace and love tree hugging bleeding heart liberal camp but really do you think there is a shortage of armed citizens in the USA?

I wouldn't say your left, liberal or anything like that, your from the UK, this type of attitude is expected as you've been indoctrinated to think exactly what you posted.

shortage of guns in the US? well contrary to what you (and many others) seem to think, there are not guns in the hands of every citizen of the US, I'd say its more like 1/8th the population owns 95% of the guns (as most people who see guns for what they are: a tool, will have a tool for many ocations, a shot gun, a hand gun, a rifle, maybe several of each, my boss has over 25 fire arms in his house, they hold value very well & are a useful investment); so yes, I do think there is a distribution issue with the guns that are in the US & there should be more.



Does having a gun empower them? Is it a natural consequence? What about the millions of people who have died due to small arms fire in the 20th and 21st century, in petty disputes and civil wars. Were they empowered. Was freedom and liberty ensured as a consequence or did the last man standing merely take all?


a fire arm is the GREAT EQUALISER, a 115lb 90 year old woman can defend herself from say, me, a 32 year old military trained 5'11" 215lb man.

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr289/mydumpster/Grandma_knows_best-1.jpg

so yes, in that sense fire arms are extremely empowering. now as for your "civil wars and the rest of that string of questions; I do not presume to tell people what to do with their lives OR the tools in their lives. an excelent deturant to random killings is the knowledge that everyone has the ability to defend themselfs; most mass shootings have one hting in common: 1 person with a gun(s) and a LARGE group of people with NO guns (and usualy in an area that guns "are not allowed" (a lot of good that does...)).




I've never really followed the theory that we need more guns logic personally.

that's because you've never had one, are probably slightly afraid of them & have been fed a line of crap from your government (the MOTHER OF ALL modern GOVERN - MENT (Control - Mind)).



People get all macho and insist on their right to bear arms, to defend their property and so on yet on so many other levels are slowly but surely giving their rights and sovereignty away. Hey man i don't mind the cia have all my personal details through google and facebook, as long as i get to tell my friends my daily bowel movements.

There's no macho involved, thats more propiganda you've been fed, most gun owners I know are very quiet about it, as for the rest, again... I don't presume to tell people what to do with their lives or the tools in it, if you want to jump off a cliff, or use facebook feel free, I wont be doing either.




Sorry for the negativity in my post, im in a foul mood, one that is heightened when i see the bloody folly in humankind's behaviour.


I hope you don't mind me poking at your "UK"ness, I'm probably at least somewhat wrong in my presumptions, but I've found in general they seem to be accurate.


i'd love to have a gun :) (and know how to use it, just for fun like)

if your ever in alaska look me up, they really are fun tools to work with!

[TigaHawk]

Take a look at Australia, and how good being Disarmed has done us.

The only people with guns now are farmers out in whoop whoop, police, and criminals.


So far:

The farmers are the only people that have guns that use them correctly.

The criminals are having a hell of a party in sydney Re: Gang Wars

The police are also having a hell of a time shooting people and their pets in "self defence".



If Australia was not disarmed, do you think the criminals down in Sydney shotting up suburbs for turf wars would be as bold? Knowing that the noise from their gunshots would wake up the entire neigborhood, people would get up, with their guns, and go out to investigate.


Police would have reason to be more polite, and think twice before they decide to pull the trigger on someones pooch, knowing that the owners could turn around and shoot them in retaliation, the people they normaly walk right over will suddenly have the power to punch them smack in the face, knock them onto their arse and snap them out of their powertrip daydream.


I would very much like to own a sniper rifle, a rifle, and a crossbow, for should ever SHTF it would make grabbing everything and pissing off as deep into the bush as i could alot easier, as i'd have means to defend myself and hunt.

[GlassSteagallfan]

Here is the webpage(s) of things the 3-D printer will make: http://www.thingiverse.com/tool:36/things/page:1

[eni-al]

Deal with social issues first. A printer that print almost a complete gun is only going to lead to more of the wrong people gettting guns. Eventually 3d printers may make it to everyones homes, if the access is easy, they'd need to be good measures to ensure no one is printing a armoury of a small army.
Metal parts are easy enough to come by or produce at home with with the right equipment and skills.

[NewFounderHome]

As a previous owner of a 3D printer Sanders 3d printer (Now known as Solidscape) and operator of a Stratasys Quantum printer and ZCorp printers, as a owner of a 3D scanner and CNC programmer for many, many years and a CAD/Cam nuts case.

I will try and shed some light on this subject.

First thing I would like to point out then the title of the thread is: Printable guns...almost a reality!

This is a subject that is coming directly from this web site as a open source project.
http://defensedistributed.com/

Presently on the market there are many different technologies or Rapid Prototyping.

There are 3D printers that generate :


paper models (wood)
plastic models (ABS, nylon and ...)
Sand (make a mould to cast metal)
metal (Cooper, Stainless Steel and more)
Ice
Food (chocolate and more)
Cement ( for wall structure)
and more I might have forgotten ...


So is this true or false, well the answer is true and false.

All the gripping areas the gun handles and gun stocks can be printed in plastic, that is not a problem, there is some finishing needed and some adjusting, but it will work, that is OK.

Where the story might have a hard time flying is using the metal printers that can do some very strong materials that will with stand the pressure of the explosion of a bullet, that is OK, But there is a big but here. The part are rough, to rough to create a smooth mechanism with tight tolerances, so one needs to have over stock and then you machine it.

So here is where the solution of having a electric solution to replace the mechanical component comes in, but we still need to have a smooth gun barrel for to have a smooth ride out for the bullet or even have a precise area where we seal in the bullet in the gun chamber, so machining is still needed.

Another point that is ode to me is when I here folks talk about GUNs as being the world problem or killer. The problem is the person handling the gun, not the gun. A knife can kill, a broken CD can kill, drugs can kill, GMO can kill, cancer can kill a car can kill, a plain can kill, infection can kill, electricity can kill, technology can kill, missing air can kill, water can kill and much, much more.
But I guess the biggest killer is the human.

On a softer note most of humanity do not want to hurt no one else, it would seem to be a few that might be creating the issues.

Peace and love to you all. :peep: :wave:

[ThePythonicCow]

But I guess the biggest killer is the human.
Perhaps human organizations are worse: corporations, nations, religions, secret societies, ... ??

[Strat]

Naturally there are pros and cons to printable guns.

When it comes to gun control I think folks don't look at the total picture. This discussion is often in black or white context, under the belief that government can physically remove the weapons. This isn't the case, and I know this as a fact from first hand experience in the U.S.

One of my 'friends' was a gang member in Chicago before being arrested and serving time in prison. He was getting all of his weapons from Russians. He could get anything (hand grenades at $500 a pop), all of the weapons were illegal. Now, if I know somebody who used to be involved in such a thing, imagine how many there are all over the US.

There have also been occasions where other friends would carry an unregistered pistol. Again, if I know people like this (and I live in a nice middle class suburban neighborhood with a low crime rate) imagine how common this is.

So if the government checks the registry and starts removing guns then they are disarming the 'good guys' and further empowering the 'bad guys' (who we ironically, inadvertently created).

Anytime I hear about 'home invasion robbery' on the news I thank god I have guns.

[NewFounderHome]

But I guess the biggest killer is the human.
Perhaps human organizations are worse: corporations, nations, religions, secret societies, ... ??

In the back of any organization, corporations, religions and ... are Humans taking poor decision and taking wrong actions.

Just to let everyone now then there are cheap small CNC milling machines and a metal lathe and that could achieve a very high quality product. So we would not even need a 3D printer in this case.

Peace to all and have a nice one.

[ThePythonicCow]

But I guess the biggest killer is the human.
Perhaps human organizations are worse: corporations, nations, religions, secret societies, ... ??

In the back of any organization, corporations, religions and ... are Humans taking poor decision and taking wrong actions.
In my view, organizations have a logic of their own ... they are not just the sum of their human parts.

Just as our human bodies are not just the sum of their cellular parts.

[ThePythonicCow]

In my view, organizations have a logic of their own ... they are not just the sum of their human parts.
This view has an important implication.

It is not sufficient to just have "good people" in our organizations.

Our organizations, their structure, rules, history (aka myths), ... need to be well formed.

[Strat]

But I guess the biggest killer is the human.
Perhaps human organizations are worse: corporations, nations, religions, secret societies, ... ??

In the back of any organization, corporations, religions and ... are Humans taking poor decision and taking wrong actions.

Just to let everyone now then there are cheap small CNC milling machines and a metal lathe and that could achieve a very high quality product. So we would not even need a 3D printer in this case.

Peace to all and have a nice one.

That's a very good point. There are lots of impoverished folk in Pakistan and Afghanistan who make their own guns. I was watching a documentary on a guy who was blind and he was turning out high quality pistols. I'll try to find that documentary.

[GlassSteagallfan]

Printable mags for the AR 15 ...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKAaO26FAvA&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKAaO26FAvA&feature=player_embedded

link: http://www.infowars.com/youtube-yanks-video-of-3d-printed-rifle-magazine/

downloads here: http://defcad.org/