Shocking News: Adyashanti says, "Humanity is Going Down this Rathole"!

[gooty64]

I said shocking -not breaking news.
Adyashanti said this in 2009 and you can skip ahead to the 23:00 mark for the "rathole" comment.
The interview is a good commentary on our situation and has many insights within.

If you need a break from the debates, impending collapse, stock markets, MSM.....
check out this video.
A good introduction to Adyashanti.

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[778 neighbour of some guy]

I said shocking -not breaking news.
Adyashanti said this in 2009 and you can skip ahead to the 23:00 mark for the "rathole" comment.
The interview is a good commentary on our situation and has many insights within.

If you need a break from the debates, impending collapse, stock markets, MSM.....
check out this video.
A good introduction to Adyashanti.

Gooty, you forgot the interview;)

Made me curious.

thx in advance

Ed

[gooty64]

erm, how :o
thanks 665pb
OK fixed it
ps, does anyone know how to tie shoe laces?:noidea:

[Kelly]

Lol, no, i have velcro, much easier:p xxx

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Gonna watch this now, thankyou ;)

[778 neighbour of some guy]

erm, how :o
thanks 665pb
OK fixed it
ps, does anyone know how to tie shoe laces?:noidea:

Oi psssssst Gooty.............. (velcro works too)

[we-R-one]

This is an awesome video! Thanks Gooty

[Arrowwind]

if you are for things or agendas or political systems, that will automatically separate you from all those things you are not for,
Simply becaue you are not putting energy in the direction of the things other than what you are for.
you cannot escape the duality and separation of the world, not even Ghandi.

Bagwhan Shree Rajneesh has expound on this in detail

[we-R-one]

if you are for things or agendas or political systems, that will automatically separate you from all those things you are not for,
Simply becaue you are not putting energy in the direction of the things other than what you are for.
you cannot escape the duality and separation of the world, not even Ghandi.

Bagwhan Shree Rajneesh has expound on this in detail

This is so true. My spiritual awakening started within the patriot movement. I spent a lot of time looking for solutions.....I finally realized I had to step out of the sandbox, which for many, was too frightening. This is all part of learning how to remove oneself from 3D concepts. The answers aren't systems, it's changing the way you think, being that change, and becoming more heart-centered in your thought processes. I find that most awakened patriots don't know where to go and don't know what to do, so they repeat the same thing over again by seeking systems for the solution rather than focusing on their own spirituality. And like Adyashanti says, we've been doing that for thousands of years and when has that every worked? I'd like to add to that by saying, show me the science that says a new system will change our environment.....and you can't, but you can find science that demonstrates heart-centered concepts change your reality.

[Arrowwind]

yes, heart centered concepts can change your reality.... but only your reality. The other stuff is still there and although your perception of other stuff may also change, for them it does not. The suffering goes on. the only hope is for everyone to live and move in heart centered concepts... to alleviate suffering... but still that will not eliminate the duality of the third dimension.

The duality of the third dimension only goes away when you leave the third dimension.

[greybeard]

if you are for things or agendas or political systems, that will automatically separate you from all those things you are not for,
Simply becaue you are not putting energy in the direction of the things other than what you are for.
you cannot escape the duality and separation of the world, not even Ghandi.

Bagwhan Shree Rajneesh has expound on this in detail

This is so true. My spiritual awakening started within the patriot movement. I spent a lot of time looking for solutions.....I finally realized I had to step out of the sandbox, which for many, was too frightening. This is all part of learning how to remove oneself from 3D concepts. The answers aren't systems, it's changing the way you think, being that change, and becoming more heart-centered in your thought processes. I find that most awakened patriots don't know where to go and don't know what to do, so they repeat the same thing over again by seeking systems for the solution rather than focusing on their own spirituality. And like Adyashanti says, we've been doing that for thousands of years and when has that every worked? I'd like to add to that by saying, show me the science that says a new system will change our environment.....and you can't, but you can find science that demonstrates heart-centered concepts change your reality.

There you go my friend
Chris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp-r_f8-qz8

[we-R-one]

There you go my friend
Chris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp-r_f8-qz8

Chris you're so awesome! I'm actually going to use that link in my solutions thread I'm putting together....working on it right now. Thank you! I had planned on using that website, but haven't had a chance to investigate more thoroughly. Glad Amzer Zoe brought it to our attention in a previous thread.

[greybeard]

if you want to help the world through the heart have a look at this web site
http://www.glcoherence.org/about-us/advisory-boards.html

Regards Chris

[we-R-one]

yes, heart centered concepts can change your reality.... but only your reality. The other stuff is still there and although your perception of other stuff may also change, for them it does not. The suffering goes on. the only hope is for everyone to live and move in heart centered concepts... to alleviate suffering... but still that will not eliminate the duality of the third dimension.

The duality of the third dimension only goes away when you leave the third dimension.

Yes, but by changing your reality you change the reality around you. There is a movement taking placing where this is happening more and more, I see it all the time. It's there if you choose to see it. I believe in this lifetime this is where the transition is headed, this is the evolution of humankind in the making. I do not believe that planet Earth is going to stay in 3D forever. The other stuff is there for a purpose, it's the fuel waiting to be transmuted by others. Investigate the concept of Holographic Universe and you will see how this can take shape.

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and yes, this is the answer to duality

[Arrowwind]

yes, heart centered concepts can change your reality.... but only your reality. The other stuff is still there and although your perception of other stuff may also change, for them it does not. The suffering goes on. the only hope is for everyone to live and move in heart centered concepts... to alleviate suffering... but still that will not eliminate the duality of the third dimension.

The duality of the third dimension only goes away when you leave the third dimension.

Yes, but by changing your reality you change the reality around you. There is a movement taking placing where this is happening more and more, I see it all the time. It's there if you choose to see it. I believe in this lifetime this is where the transition is headed, this is the evolution of humankind in the making. I do not believe that planet Earth is going to stay in 3D forever. The other stuff is there for a purpose, it's the fuel waiting to be transmuted by others. Investigate the concept of Holographic Universe and you will see how this can take shape.

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and yes, this is the answer to duality



I understand what you are saying and I have lived in nitches so to speak where the shape of reality was shifted to the point of telepathy being common and creating new events and experiences collectively occured what seemed to be instantanously, upon formed intention and I always thought the reason was due to the people of one heart projecting reality into a new expression, but still 3d.
when we fell down it hurt.

Evolution in consciousness and the gifts it brings could be confused with a 3D shift. The test will always be, when you fall down, does it hurt... or something akin.

If the earth does not stay in 3D that may well be... but for those trying to resolve duality here and now it cant be done until the shift is made....not to say that individuals do not shift in and out on their own and are modeling to others how to do it.

[we-R-one]

I understand what you are saying and I have lived in nitches so to speak where the shape of reality was shifted to the point of telepathy being common and creating new events and experiences collectively occured what seemed to be instantanously, upon formed intention and I always thought the reason was due to the people of one heart projecting reality into a new expression, but still 3d.
when we fell down it hurt.

Evolution in consciousness and the gifts it brings could be confused with a 3D shift. The test will always be, when you fall down, does it hurt... or something akin.

If the earth does not stay in 3D that may well be... but for those trying to resolve duality here and now it cant be done until the shift is made....not to say that individuals do not shift in and out on their own and are modeling to others how to do it.

Well then what creates the shift? Is it not each of us individuals changing the reality by changing the way we think? You see this is the ascension process to me, it's a shift in consciousness. I'm not sure I understand your falling down concept. I'm just here to plant the seed. I cannot control what others do, but I can control what I do. How do you fall down?

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Many mystics have said that the Heart is the seat of the soul. My personal journey has brought me to that place of understanding - and the understanding of how powerful one person can be in affecting the many.

We have seen how Hitler affected the many negatively through activating their emotional and root chakras. (By the way, for those that don't already know, Hitler was very much a knowledgeable student of the occult). We have also seen how Martin Luther King affected the many positively by activating their heart centers.

Most of us now know how powerful thoughts are, particularly when energized with emotion - so we don't have to be great orators or have access to the media to affect the many. But what we need to be aware of is: What are we thinking - and through what chakra or emotional center are we energizing these thoughts.

[Arrowwind]

[ I'm not sure I understand your falling down concept. I'm just here to plant the seed. I cannot control what others do, but I can control what I do. How do you fall down?

Well generally to fall down one trips on a shoe lace or steps in hole or in general is not watching where they are going. ;)
If you can still fall down and hurt yourself you are still in 3D and still subject to most of its laws.
think of it as kind of an allegory, the falling down thing.

[we-R-one]

I guess I haven't worried about falling down per se......could be since I no longer operate in fear that concept never crossed my mind, which is why it sounds foreign to me. I'm not saying that you do, but the concept puzzles me as my perception does not even considering falling down as part of the equation. I see no failure in anything, only a process to learn and grow. In fact it is through failure that the biggest growth takes shape.

[Arrowwind]

[Well then what creates the shift? ?

oh and regarding this question... what creates the shift... the shift is caused by becomeing what we already have capacity to be but do not yet know how to utilize and express.... kind of like a child learning to walk, but at the age of 6months does not know yet the potential, only feels an urge

I think 3D will still be here if even everyone "shifts"
but how we will intertact with 3D will change
or we will simply leave 3D behind to continue on its own independent evolution.
Think of Jesus Christ.
Certainly an ascended master if you choose that story to beleive in.
and folks who surrounded him, they did speed up in their evolution to be who they really are.
yet, 3D goes on
and to imply that 3D is an error (and Im not saying that you do) or a place not worthy of existence I think is a mistake.
Mother Earth is hugely involved in 3D expression... and perhaps a master of it
and we are in so many ways her children.
I think in mastering a situation (in this case 3D reality) you do not necessarily make it disappear or evaporate
you master it and know it for all its potentials and learn to work those potentials.
It is not running away or creating a new reality, it is fully being here now.
Remember "Be Here Now" ?

[greybeard]

It would seem that the heart is the first part of the human body to be formed-- it beats before the brain is formed/active.
The measured energy of the heart is many fold higher than the brain.
The mystics say that "God" lives within the spiritual heart cave located to the right of the physical heart.
Mystics say that "God", Brahman is the true Self. The One without second.
Therein lies the saviour (Christ consciousness/enlightenment)

Chris

[4evrneo]

Great video ! Thank you.

Annette

[meat suit]

thanks for the introduction Gooty, interesting dude... I ll look him up when I got time...
guys, if you like this... have a listen to Tom Campbell http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38987-The-Nature-of-Reality-by-Tom-Campbell

btw. I dont feel the 'rathole' part is of any significance....

[Kelly]

Hi Gooty, this is the first time i have watched this guy, and he makes a lot of sense, i too dont think spirituallity is seperate from anything, i haven't for a long time( but i have said that before, a long time ago on a different forum, before i knew you, and i got ridiculed for it), and i also loved the squirrel that ran down the tree at 18 ish minutes past lol, ( are there black squirrels in the US?) we don't have them in the UK :) ;)
There are so many good reasons not to let go, yeah, i know that one, i understand that only too well :)

[danimyl]

There's a lot of wisdom in this interview. It's worth noting that authentic teachers and all the true Teachings that offer a Way to end separation have an important quality of simplicity. They are easily understood. When you listen to this talk, there is no complex language, very little mysticism or cosmology. There's simple language that's easily understood and easily translated. The complexity of some approaches reveals them to be a mere plaything of the personal mind and not a real pathway to something greater.

In regard to the question of separation, which is touched on here as a precursor to the topic of fear, the New Message (http://www.newmessage.org) offers this beautifully simple explanation in a Teaching called "What is Creation?"


Creation is all that God has created within time and beyond time. You live within time, so you live in part of creation that is in motion, that is in flux, that is unstable, that is evolving and expanding. This part of creation was established to provide a home for the separated where they could experience separation and have the opportunity to choose a way to return to that part of creation that does not change, that is complete and eternal.The creation that you must be concerned with is the temporary creation—time and space, a physical reality, a reality of constant change, of evolving systems, a reality of contrast and conflict, a reality of life and death.

Separation created this reality, for God knew that the separated must have a foundation upon which to exist. And it has set in train the physical Universe that you are only beginning to comprehend and that you must learn to serve and to recognize if you are to outgrow its fascinations and to forgive its tragedies. Creation beyond this is beyond your awareness now though you are actually living within it, for the temporary creation is happening at another level. You are already surrounded by the permanent creation, but your eyes cannot see it, your ears cannot hear it, your fingers cannot touch it because your senses were only established to recognize physical things—things that are moving, objects that are moving, sounds that are changing. The Greater Reality in which you live is all around you. You have never left it, but given your reliance upon your senses, you cannot experience it directly without a certain kind of preparation.

There is a simple preparation in Steps to Knowledge. It offers the direct way, which is simple. And this is why it is so challenging.