DNA-What is it? Why is it? And how does it interact with our Spirit?

[Kano]

DNA-what a fascinating topic. I understand that there are many threads that discuss DNA. However, my hope here is to have a fresh new look at DNA, how we can protect ours, what threats are in place to manipulate our DNA, and to discuss ways that DNA interact as a medium between body intelligence and spirit intelligence.

Part of the motivation to start this thread was due to the DNA discussion that came out of the thread below.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48858-Mass-Extermination-of-Useless-Eaters-Shade-Exposes-the-Plan&highlight=useless+eater

I found a lot of discussion really great and thought it deserved its own thread.

I am not a topic Nazi so this conversation can go in a lot of different directions (which would be great). I am just very interested to know what you know about DNA and how we can help protect the human genome. I do believe the spiritual capabilities that each human possesses, which are the catalysts for true global change, are intimately tied to the health of our DNA on a very important level. This is why it is important to understand the ways that DNA can be manipulated and why it is important to create a domain of knowing.

[Kano]

Some recent advances is DNA sequencing technology.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19812067


Doctors in the US say they have taken a big step forward in the speed of analysing the DNA of seriously ill babies with genetic diseases.

The whole of a baby's genetic code - genome - was sequenced, analysed and the results given to doctors within 50 hours in intensive care units at Children's Mercy Hospital, Kansas City.

The process would normally take at least a month, they said.

Experts in the UK said it was an "impressive" technical achievement.

US doctors say up to a third of babies admitted to neonatal intensive care units are there because of genetic diseases caused by mutations in their DNA. However, there are more than 3,500 different genetic diseases meaning many are rare and difficult to diagnose.

The first copy of the blueprint of human life - the Human Genome Project - took years to accomplish and an incredible amount of money. Since then both the time and the cost have fallen dramatically.

[ThePythonicCow]

If the work of Joseph P. Farrell is right, then humans are the result of some genetic engineering from long ago, and humans have long ago reached great technical power, potentially even involved in the destruction of a planet resulting in the asteroid belt.

Once again, we are rapidly acquiring great technical power (much of it hidden from public view) and once again we are rapidly acquiring genetic engineering capability.

Perhaps some of the same "forces" are once again at work behind the scenes, as when humans were designed, and a planet destroyed, long ago.

[Cidersomerset]

DNA and RNA seem to be the key to future health and longevity and we are still at the begining.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49592-New-DNA-encyclopedia-shows-complex-inner-workings

[Hervé]

... a red herring... a wild goose chase... a sky hook... whatever that blames something that's NOT THE REAL CULPRIT as so often found in real and true health restoration:



[...]

So we have the whole absorption with DNA and how consciousness affects it. In performing in this manner they are actually perfecting genetically. The ptb has always been a slave to the notion of genetics.

We don't seem to understand that most genetic experiences are wrought not directly through physical tampering but tampering through the consciousness--it imposes great influence on the body.

[...]

Very similar understanding to my own of the whole genetic/DNA ooplah that's being force-fed all around in research and MSM under the guise of "It's all genetic" whether that be psychopathy, diseases, genialism, moronism, the whole of the psychiatric/psychology aberrations, etc... blame it on the body and its parents.

My bet is that, pretty soon, if not already in the works, they'll "discover" the "Christian gene" or the "Muslim" or "Buddhist" ones. And with it, completely disconnect the being/spirit and its own programming from the biological body and denying "existence" to the "will" behind that body's expressed performance and abilities with the blanket statement: "Well, s/he was born that way." Which is the whole idea behind eugenics programs and agenda 21.

[Kano]

If the work of Joseph P. Farrell is right, then humans are the result of some genetic engineering from long ago, and humans have long ago reached great technical power, potentially even involved in the destruction of a planet resulting in the asteroid belt.

Once again, we are rapidly acquiring great technical power (much of it hidden from public view) and once again we are rapidly acquiring genetic engineering capability.

Perhaps some of the same "forces" are once again at work behind the scenes, as when humans were designed, and a planet destroyed, long ago.

I absolutely agree with what Joseph Farrell is saying. Much of the truly cutting edge technology I believe is hidden away. Only when TPTB have decided that a certain technology cannot be weaponized or that it will make them richer to release it to the general populace is it then made available en masse.

When will we break the cycle and value our spirituality over our technology? Afterall, isn't this high technology just mimicing what nature is already capable of?

[Kano]

... a red herring... a wild goose chase... a sky hook... whatever that blames something that's NOT THE REAL CULPRIT as so often found in real and true health restoration:



[...]

So we have the whole absorption with DNA and how consciousness affects it. In performing in this manner they are actually perfecting genetically. The ptb has always been a slave to the notion of genetics.

We don't seem to understand that most genetic experiences are wrought not directly through physical tampering but tampering through the consciousness--it imposes great influence on the body.

[...]

Very similar understanding to my own of the whole genetic/DNA ooplah that's being force-fed all around in research and MSM under the guise of "It's all genetic" whether that be psychopathy, diseases, genialism, moronism, the whole of the psychiatric/psychology aberrations, etc... blame it on the body and its parents.

My bet is that, pretty soon, if not already in the works, they'll "discover" the "Christian gene" or the "Muslim" or "Buddhist" ones. And with it, completely disconnect the being/spirit and its own programming from the biological body and denying "existence" to the "will" behind that body's expressed performance and abilities with the blanket statement: "Well, s/he was born that way." Which is the whole idea behind eugenics programs and agenda 21.

Brilliant! This is very much congruent with what I have also gathered about DNA. Thanks for reposting this!

EDIT: It is a very good point that consciousness tampering is in tandem with physical tampering. This does seem to be a missed point when talking about DNA manipulation.

[ThePythonicCow]

And with it, completely disconnect the being/spirit and its own programming from the biological body and denying "existence" to the "will" behind that body's expressed performance and abilities with the blanket statement: "Well, s/he was born that way." Which is the whole idea behind eugenics programs and agenda 21.
Yeah - exactly!

Us humans would be a whole lot easier to herd if we weren't so damned uppity.

Personally, I'm rather stuck (so far as I've consciously noticed thus far), in this rather mundane, 3D, secular human world. I've not seen UFO's or aliens, and I've not seen souls or spirits, mine or others, as clearly separate from our physical beings. However, I've seen and heard enough, especially from other good people here, to be pretty sure that such do indeed exist, in powerful forms, outside my limited conscious awareness.

My hunch is that some other beings, more advanced in some ways than us, have been breeding and herding us, in some fashion or other for a long time now, and might be finding us to be getting a little bit too wild, a little bit too free spirited, and a little bit too capable (again.) They might think it is time to interfere again, and dumb down and/or cull the herd, so that we might better serve whatever purpose they have in mind for us, without creating such a burden to this planet or threat beyond.

[Kano]

And with it, completely disconnect the being/spirit and its own programming from the biological body and denying "existence" to the "will" behind that body's expressed performance and abilities with the blanket statement: "Well, s/he was born that way." Which is the whole idea behind eugenics programs and agenda 21.
Yeah - exactly!

Us humans would be a whole lot easier to herd if we weren't so damned uppity.

Personally, I'm rather stuck (so far as I've consciously noticed thus far), in this rather mundane, 3D, secular human world. I've not seen UFO's or aliens, and I've not seen souls or spirits, mine or others, as clearly separate from our physical beings. However, I've seen and heard enough, especially from other good people here, to be pretty sure that such do indeed exist, in powerful forms, outside my limited conscious awareness.

My hunch is that some other beings, more advanced in some ways than us, have been breeding and herding us, in some fashion or other for a long time now, and might be finding us to be getting a little bit too wild, a little bit too free spirited, and a little bit too capable (again.) They might think it is time to interfere again, and dumb down and/or cull the herd, so that we might better serve whatever purpose they have in mind for us, without creating such a burden to this planet or threat beyond.

Again, very well said. And so as to not spook the herd, cull them without them knowing.

[Kano]

This website kind of gave me the creeps. Over and above the misspelled words and pictures, something is off about it. Or maybe I just can't get used to the fact that there are now places you can go to have an organ regrown, replaced, and then the recovery retreat in the Maldives, all under one roof?! Commoditization of the building blocks of life. We will get what we deserve for tampering with our own DNA.

http://www.humanupgrades.com/

[Cidersomerset]

An Alternate view is the Ion material which is supposed to be happening soon if it has not already started !!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44999-BOB-James-and-Carolyn-explaining-Assencion....144double-helix-s-chromozone-14-RNA

post#8 explains RNA/DNA in detail but a lot of info on thread about Ions view on comming body changes ,
and how it will enable each of us to stay immortal in physical as well as the eternal non physical entity we all are !!


The good thing about this material is if there is any truth to it and its been vast over the
last three years it should be playing out now and it has been. Fuchishma and other releases
of radiation into the atmopshere is part of this trigger proccess of creating a H197 enviroment.

[Kano]

A timely article from Stan Deyo's site.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2012/10/04/warning-genetically-modified-humans/

[nomadguy]

I have a long standing feeling that all modifications to our DNA past or present are too hold us back.
DNA is the language of creation.

[AriG]

Thank you Kano for the Scientific American Article:

"Will our descendants be less than human? Another candidate for remedy with reproductive technology is schizophrenia. The disorder affects cognition, and can lead to chronic problems with emotional responsiveness. The 1% prevalence of schizophrenia makes it an apt target for prevention. However, the globally consistent and high incidence of this disease may be an indicator of its association with advantageous genetic characteristics. The ‘social brain hypothesis’, the main theory to explain the evolution of schizophrenia, suggests that the human brain evolved to select for genes associated with schizophrenia in a trade for higher order cognitive traits. These include language and the ability to interpret the thoughts and emotions of others."

This excerpt is very telling. The answer to the question posed, " will our descendants be less than human?" is a definitive YES! What are we going to do to stop it!!?

[AriG]

DNA and RNA seem to be the key to future health and longevity and we are still at the begining.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49592-New-DNA-encyclopedia-shows-complex-inner-workings

A key can be used to open a door or to lock it. Based upon your observations here in this vortex, what do you think the consequences will be longer term?

[Kano]

An Alternate view is the Ion material which is supposed to be happening soon if it has not already started !!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44999-BOB-James-and-Carolyn-explaining-Assencion....144double-helix-s-chromozone-14-RNA

post#8 explains RNA/DNA in detail but a lot of info on thread about Ions view on comming body changes ,
and how it will enable each of us to stay immortal in physical as well as the eternal non physical entity we all are !!


The good thing about this material is if there is any truth to it and its been vast over the
last three years it should be playing out now and it has been. Fuchishma and other releases
of radiation into the atmopshere is part of this trigger proccess of creating a H197 enviroment.

Thanks for posting this, Cider. I will listen to it this weekend. I have always thought the allowed continual release of poision from Fukushima was by design.

[Kano]

I have a long standing feeling that all modifications to our DNA past or present are too hold us back.
DNA is the language of creation.

Yes! And just to reiterate what you said: DNA is a language, and a decipherable one at that.

[Kano]

DNA and RNA seem to be the key to future health and longevity and we are still at the begining.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49592-New-DNA-encyclopedia-shows-complex-inner-workings

A key can be used to open a door or to lock it. Based upon your observations here in this vortex, what do you think the consequences will be longer term?

In what ways can the door be locked with respect to DNA manipulation? Can this same method be used to unlock the so called "junk" DNA?

[AriG]

Personally, I'm rather stuck (so far as I've consciously noticed thus far), in this rather mundane, 3D, secular human world. I've not seen UFO's or aliens, and I've not seen souls or spirits, mine or others, as clearly separate from our physical beings. However, I've seen and heard enough, especially from other good people here, to be pretty sure that such do indeed exist, in powerful forms, outside my limited conscious awareness.

Not that I am an expert Paul, by any means, but you recently referred to yourself as a "fact checker". Facts are critical to discernment and I applaud your analytical mind, but... have you considered the possibility that you are not having the aforementioned experiences because you are not open to them? Focusing on facts when perhaps a bit more energy could be devoted to feeling and sensing? Certainly not a criticism, you are a smart person with a lot of insight, but if you want to have those experiences, a change of perspective might be all that is required ( IMO only, no judgment) and I could be way off base :)


My hunch is that some other beings, more advanced in some ways than us, have been breeding and herding us, in some fashion or other for a long time now, and might be finding us to be getting a little bit too wild, a little bit too free spirited, and a little bit too capable (again.) They might think it is time to interfere again, and dumb down and/or cull the herd, so that we might better serve whatever purpose they have in mind for us, without creating such a burden to this planet or threat beyond.

Yes, when the population was a micro-fraction of what it is now, language was the tool by which humanity was divided. Those pesky humans managed to build that tower anyway - cpu, cell, etc. We are seen as weeds that develop immunity to the pesticide - let's hope this next generation of poisons can be overcome as well.

[AriG]

DNA and RNA seem to be the key to future health and longevity and we are still at the begining.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49592-New-DNA-encyclopedia-shows-complex-inner-workings

A key can be used to open a door or to lock it. Based upon your observations here in this vortex, what do you think the consequences will be longer term?


In what ways can the door be locked with respect to DNA manipulation? Can this same method be used to unlock the so called "junk" DNA?

When the veil between lives and worlds is thin, in the first few days after birth, the subject is most vulnerable to the engineering process. From what has been explained to me there is no junk DNA. Only dormant.

I am going to make contact with an actual scientist now and get back with you with some specific information. I can provide the layman's description, but I would like to support it with a report, if at all possible. This might take until the end of the day ( I am currently in the US) Stand by :)

[Kano]

DNA and RNA seem to be the key to future health and longevity and we are still at the begining.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49592-New-DNA-encyclopedia-shows-complex-inner-workings

A key can be used to open a door or to lock it. Based upon your observations here in this vortex, what do you think the consequences will be longer term?


In what ways can the door be locked with respect to DNA manipulation? Can this same method be used to unlock the so called "junk" DNA?

When the veil between lives and worlds is thin, in the first few days after birth, the subject is most vulnerable to the engineering process. From what has been explained to me there is no junk DNA. Only dormant.

I am going to make contact with an actual scientist now and get back with you with some specific information. I can provide the layman's description, but I would like to support it with a report, if at all possible. This might take until the end of the day ( I am currently in the US) Stand by :)

Excellent! That would be great. Look forward to what you can share!

[greybeard]

Environment is very important as the work of these two scientists prove via stem cell research and may other avenues which are pertinent to the question posed in the thread title.
The video covers a lot of ground but very interesting.

Chris




http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wXpndnjHvqw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wXpndnjHvqw

[AriG]

Haven't heard anything yet, but that is not unusual, so while we wait, let's take a look at a video and think about the multiple uses for this technology...


http://ki.mit.edu/approach/animations/cima

edit to add:

watch this once with your eyes open. watch it again with your eyes closed. listen to the emphasis on key words.

[Cidersomerset]

Hi Kano this is a must to add to your knowledge & mine ..LOL......I am listening to last nights Cash flow Thurs/fri 5/6 Oct 2012 ....

http://www.achieveradio.com/cash-flow/

1.00am Segment...5/6 Oct 2012 ....These recent show are amazing as Bob has been playing a lot of previously private sessions with all different
people and subjects.......

This starts 10 mins in Bob plays a private recording of Dr.Carolyn Dean his wife , Ion and himselfe discussing DNA ,RNA, incilinose and the Icell
and its inter relationships to the human body......Bob is very methodical trying to understand what Ion and Carolyn are saying very interresting

Icell is a idependent cell made up of H197...containing Amino acids, lipids, sugers/calories &
poss something else I did not catch....

2.00 segement..5/6 Oct 2012 ...8 mins in Bob plays last 3 mins of ICell/RNA Session then discuss it a bit.....

http://www.achieveradio.com/cash-flow/
==========================================================

The relationship of RNA/DNA to the Spirit/Non Physical....All of us 'wonderfull human creators'/Gods...is explained partly in below thread.


This is only part of it and Its hard to explain,though easier to visualise when you hear Ion
& Bob explain it..... It invloves ,the change of Atmosphere H 197, blood and DNA , thru the
activation of 144,000 cells ,double helixs , ring & arms, chromozone 14 and the the activation
of RNA which acts as a Zerox copier to duplcate everycell in the body perfectly, which is how
the physical body will be able to last forever.....All great stuff ..Steve

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44999-BOB-James-and-Carolyn-explaining-Assencion....144double-helix-s-chromozone-14-RNA&p=486240#post486240
From this thread.....after hearing Ions technical explainations the essoteric part makes
more sence to me !!

What I cannot get over is this depth of this whole Ion material....Steve

[AriG]

Off topic - sorry Kano :)

Is this James Martinez featured on this cash flow for debt reduction the same man who was interviewed by PC? The link on PC is broken to the James Martinez interview

What's the deal with this site (cash flow)? It looks odd.

[AriG]

Cidersomerset,

I am having a very difficult time picking up that archive. Are they referring to the "god gene" discovery?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/nov/14/20041114-111404-8087r/

I am hearing something about RNA drops? Then it keeps cutting out. Is there another way to hear this?

Thanks!

[modwiz]

DNA-What is it? Basically, an operating system with default settings.

Why is it? Basically,as a user interface

And how does it interact with our Spirit? Basically,it ''listens'' for changing of default settings and new programming.

New question: What are you telling your DNA?

[Cidersomerset]

Off topic - sorry Kano

Is this James Martinez featured on this cash flow for debt reduction the same man who was interviewed by PC? The link on PC is broken to the James Martinez interview

What's the deal with this site (cash flow)? It looks odd.

Yes Bill & Kerry interviewed James twice about the Walter Bowarte Material, and is how i found James...from there Bob Carolyn & Ion ....

[ThePythonicCow]

Not that I am an expert Paul, by any means, but you recently referred to yourself as a "fact checker".
My '"fact checking" persona' is not all there is of me :).

[Cidersomerset]

DNA-What is it? Basically, an operating system with default settings.

Why is it? Basically,a user interface

And how does it interact with our Spirit? Basically,it listens for changing of default settings and new programming.

New question: What are you telling your DNA?



You are telling your DNA to create the perfect cell, which has Chromosone 14 in it the only chromozone that has arms and hooks
that when perfect thru the activation of the Icell produces 144 double helix's, which the RNA will copy like a zerox so every new
cell will become perfect and thus we rejenerate our meatsack bodies indefinately......

Icell is a idependent cell made up of H197...containing Amino acids, lipids, sugers/calories &
poss something else I did not catch....

The atmosphere is changing with more radiation naturally and from man made leaks like Fukushima !

I'm still trying to work this out myselfe , thats why i keep flaging it trying to get some interrest ...LOL..

[Cidersomerset]

Cidersomerset,

I am having a very difficult time picking up that archive. Are they referring to the "god gene" discovery?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-111404-8087r/

I am hearing something about RNA drops? Then it keeps cutting out. Is there another way to hear this?

Thanks!

Which Archive,......The cash flow one you have to scroll down a little and there are the timed segments....

http://www.achieveradio.com/cash-flow/

[ThePythonicCow]

I'm still trying to work this out myself , thats why i keep flagging it trying to get some interest ...LOL..


What I cannot get over is this depth of this whole Ion material....Steve

Perhaps it is just me, but I am finding this material you are referencing here to be somewhat distinct material from most of what else this thread has mentioned so far.

I am wondering if it would be better on it's own thread?

[AriG]

Not that I am an expert Paul, by any means, but you recently referred to yourself as a "fact checker".
My '"fact checking" persona' is not all there is of me :).

I am certain of that. There is brisket, flank, rump, tenderloin. Just kidding. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply otherwise. You just mentioned that you wanted to have one of the experiences you mentioned. I didn't have them either, that is until I tempered my analytical side for a walk on the wild side :)

Moo!

[AriG]

So here I sit all red faced and annoyed :( I promised that I would upload a report today and I am still awaiting it. No one wants to work on Fridays. Can't blame them. Let's see if email gets checked on the weekend. A very nice local and organic "Pinot Noir" wanna be has requested my company, therefore I will shut it down for the night.

Kano, this is such a wonderful thread. I do wish we could get more Avalonians involved in this discussion.

[ThePythonicCow]

A very nice local and organic "Pinot Noir" wanna be has requested my company
One should seldom turn down such a request :).

[AriG]

New question: What are you telling your DNA?

Well Modwiz ( very cool Avatar btw), hopefully we are all doing the right things and materializing the right reality, but there are some really big guns pointed at us and most don't even know they are in the line of fire.

[greybeard]

This may help.
Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snpyCKYvvg8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snpyCKYvvg8

[modwiz]

New question: What are you telling your DNA?

Well Modwiz ( very cool Avatar btw), hopefully we are all doing the right things and materializing the right reality, but there are some really big guns pointed at us and most don't even know they are in the line of fire.

Then their DNA will be eliminated. Awareness is a desirable trait to pass on, lack of same is not. DNA is a quality issue not quantity. There is obvious degradation occurring and it was happening before cell towers and GMO foods.

All is well.

[AriG]

New question: What are you telling your DNA?

Well Modwiz ( very cool Avatar btw), hopefully we are all doing the right things and materializing the right reality, but there are some really big guns pointed at us and most don't even know they are in the line of fire.

Then their DNA will be eliminated. Awareness is a desirable trait to pass on, lack of same is not. DNA is a quality issue not quantity. There is obvious degradation occurring and it was happening before cell towers and GMO foods.

All is well.


Ok, here's a tough question... " what if your child or grandchild didn't inherit the awareness gene". What then? Are you in favor of the survival of the fittest even if it doesn't favor your recessive genes, for example? Recessive genes that may have dominated when coupled with a spouse with the same?

[AriG]

A very nice local and organic "Pinot Noir" wanna be has requested my company
One should seldom turn down such a request :).

Paul, I love you on a deep intellectual and spirit level. You are good. I sense it. Thank you for being you. ( and she's out. No more wine wisdom for the evening)

[modwiz]

New question: What are you telling your DNA?

Well Modwiz ( very cool Avatar btw), hopefully we are all doing the right things and materializing the right reality, but there are some really big guns pointed at us and most don't even know they are in the line of fire.

Then their DNA will be eliminated. Awareness is a desirable trait to pass on, lack of same is not. DNA is a quality issue not quantity. There is obvious degradation occurring and it was happening before cell towers and GMO foods.

All is well.






Ok, here's a tough question... " what if your child or grandchild didn't inherit the awareness gene". What then? Are you in favor of the survival of the fittest even if it doesn't favor your recessive genes, for example? Recessive genes that may have dominated when coupled with a spouse with the same?

I've already visited this one since I have a son, but since DNA is programmable it is not a black and white question, is it? Awareness can be taught and therefore "fixed". Humans have advantages animals don't. Animals passively program or soft program. (My terms) Humans can actively, or hard, program. Some dogs and cats will not cross a street unless it is safe. They check before doing so. Others just cross with sometimes bad results.

Here is the best answer I can give you for humans. I had all childhood diseases and passed that gauntlet. I have an excellent immune system as an adult as well. I was never vaccinated against childhood diseases. I would not vaccinate my son either. I say this being aware that childhood diseases can kill the weak ones. They are meant to weed out the weak. Nature has Her wisdom and I find no fault with it. Emotional attachments do not always serve the gene pool. The many are more important than the one. He was raised by his mother so he has received his vaccinations. I believe he would have been fine, and better immunized without them.

[nomadguy]

DNA and RNA seem to be the key to future health and longevity and we are still at the begining.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49592-New-DNA-encyclopedia-shows-complex-inner-workings

A key can be used to open a door or to lock it. Based upon your observations here in this vortex, what do you think the consequences will be longer term?

In what ways can the door be locked with respect to DNA manipulation? Can this same method be used to unlock the so called "junk" DNA?

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Hmm could it be that DNA IS a vortex?
The so called junk might be broken off from it's original position in the spinning vortex that we call DNA.
A fractal vortex.

http://www.miqel.com/images_1/fractal_math_patterns/platonic-vectoal/lpplhchn.jpg
http://www.vectorstock.com/i/composite/39,49/dna-strands-vector-493949.jpg

[AriG]

Here is the best answer I can give you for humans. I had all childhood diseases and passed that gauntlet. I have an excellent immune system as an adult as well. I was never vaccinated against childhood diseases. I would not vaccinate my son either. I say this being aware that childhood diseases can kill the weak ones. They are meant to weed out the weak. Nature has Her wisdom and I find no fault with it. Emotional attachments do not always serve the gene pool. The many are more important than the one. He was raised by his mother so he has received his vaccinations. I believe he would have been fine, and better immunized without them.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bssEdabmNtk&feature=related

[AriG]

This is an excerpt from a white paper. This is provided as background information necessary to understand the bigger picture. This paper has been edited to remove sensitive information that shouldn't be shared (the full recipe by gene) and to protect identities for the time being.

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DNA sequence on demand has revolutionized research in academia and pharmaceutical companies. At the same time, this availability has made it possible to synthesize DNA that could be used to do harm. Some academic and commercial applications of DNA synthesis require the construction of very small quantities of the desired sequence; others involve synthesis at the gram scale or larger.

Threat: Materials available to create DNA Building Blocks

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OHNH NNO dRNNHN N dROHN N ONN HNNN
dR HdR A-T Base Pair G-C Base Pair
                                        

All four bases are available in metric ton quantities through multiple sources. The least expensive Chinese suppliers sell at approximately $140/Kg. (chemically synthesized and are stable indefinitely when stored appropriately). Easily understood, the synthesis could be implemented with the help of reagents in a run of the mill laboratory. However, easy access to the bases does not lead to easy access to the nucleotides but can be achieved from nucleosides by adding phosphate groups. Ten years ago, all the nucleotides needed for DNA synthesis were made from nucleosides isolated from natural sources, such as fish milt. Several companies, including Yamasa in Japan, Reliable in the USA and ProBioSint in Italy have used this method to produce nucleosides in metric ton quantities (time consuming and costly). Currently, a dozen Asian companies now manufacture the pyrimidine nucleosides cheaply and in metric ton quantities using white cane sugar as a base.

Processing cane sugar furnishes D-glucose, which is transformed into 2- deoxy-D-ribose and the 2-deoxy-D-ribose is converted into a reactive α-chloro-sugar that is easily converted into the pyrimidine nucleosides (T and C). The nucleosides are available in large quantities from chemical synthesis at a significantly lower cost than the nucleosides isolated from fish milt.

Process Steps
Salmon (Fish)
Salmon Milt
Cell Digest/DNA Solubilization
DNA Salt Precipitation
DNA Salt Digestion
IE Chromatography
2'-Deoxynucleosides
Protected Nucleosides
Phosphoramidites
Synthetic DNA
Volumes
100,000 Kg

         
Cane Sugar
NH2
HO
O
HO OH
HO
HO O
OH
HO
2-Deoxy-D-ribose
O
NH
NO
      
OH
 
D-Glucose
       
N
OH RO OH
H3C
   
ONOOO Cl
                    
HO
RO α-Cl sugar
HO "T" nucleoside
"C" nucleoside

NH2
OH NNH OH NN OH
O
O G NH N NH2
O
NH N
O A
                                
OPO3
Glycosylation HO Figure 3: Chemical synthesis pathway for nucleosides from cane sugar
    
HO Glycosylation "G" nucleoside
HO
"A" nucleoside
   
    
DMT OOB
Nucleoside Solid-Support
OOB
O
      
HO O B
HO
2'-Deoxynucleosides (B = T, C, A or G)
O OPO
OOB
O Synthetic DNA
                     
P
O
 
CN N
             
Amidites
(B = T, CBz, ABz or GIbu)

Nucleosides and all four amidites are distributed across the globe in large quantities, by a large number of suppliers. The most concerted international efforts have not restricted the raw material supplies available.
Reagent supply is non restricted and needed for DNA synthesis No roadblocks exist to prevent individuals from small scale oligonucleotides production. Potential controls exist with solid support beads restriction, however, these are utilized throughout the industry. Recommended restrictions to include protocols for monitoring Industrial reagent use and compliance standards. International tracking efforts must be implemented to restrict the predominantly foreign supply into currently unrestricted US markets.

[nomadguy]

Wow, well that information AriG
Is far beyond my knowledge base, WAY over my head.
Is there a laymans explanation for this?

At a glance it sounds like modifying your DNA.
I am against this, it is my personal opinion that we need to reset our DNA to a healthy-balanced-state and that it is not so. Somewhere along the line our DNA unraveled. I liken the DNA modification to scar tissue, scar tissue cannot grow and when stretched, it breaks.

[AriG]

At a glance it sounds like modifying your DNA.
I am against this, it is my personal opinion that we need to reset our DNA to a healthy-balanced-state and that it is not so. Somewhere along the line our DNA unraveled. I liken the DNA modification to scar tissue, scar tissue cannot grow and when stretched, it breaks.

What I provided is an excerpt, so its not complete information (intentionally) What this information illustrates, is that anyone with intermediate knowledge or anyone who chooses to seek the knowledge, is able, with a little expense, to create DNA via its four amino acids that can be produced with cane sugar. This process, on a global scale would require an estimated seven figure investment. That, coupled with recent discoveries, possibly translates into the ability replace our existing dna with that of "their" own creation. Human consciousness ( spirit/soul) interacts with dna.

[Kano]

At a glance it sounds like modifying your DNA.
I am against this, it is my personal opinion that we need to reset our DNA to a healthy-balanced-state and that it is not so. Somewhere along the line our DNA unraveled. I liken the DNA modification to scar tissue, scar tissue cannot grow and when stretched, it breaks.

What I provided is an excerpt, so its not complete information (intentionally) What this information illustrates, is that anyone with intermediate knowledge or anyone who chooses to seek the knowledge, is able, with a little expense, to create DNA via its four amino acids that can be produced with cane sugar. This process, on a global scale would require an estimated seven figure investment. That, coupled with recent discoveries, possibly translates into the ability replace our existing dna with that of "their" own creation. Human consciousness ( spirit/soul) interacts with dna.

Ok, now it is making more sense to me. I did not realize that this could be done with such a relative small investment. And correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds like one can purchase specific sequences of the DNA strand to "bridge" or totally bypass a certain trait in order to produce the desired one?

This is also a bit off topic but maybe not by much: What information have you been privy to as far as clones and cloning goes? That would seem to be a big part of the DNA manipulation. Is part of this roll out of manufactured DNA to be able to also "progam" the DNA with life memories, experience, knowledge, etc so that a clone could function unnoticed in today's world?

[ThePythonicCow]

I have posted a related thread at Monsanto could produce food that suppresses a specific gene in all who eat it (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50743-Monsanto-could-produce-food-that-suppresses-a-specific-gene-in-all-who-eat-it).

[Cidersomerset]

A very nice local and organic "Pinot Noir" wanna be has requested my company
One should seldom turn down such a request .



Posted by Paul (here)



Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
A very nice local and organic "Pinot Noir" wanna be has requested my company
One should seldom turn down such a request . Paul, I love you on a deep intellectual and spirit level. You are good. I sense it. Thank you for being you. ( and she's out. No more wine wisdom for the evening)



I don't think I posted this quote ??..LOl ....

[ThePythonicCow]

I don't think I posted this quote ??..LOl ....
Aha - right you are - I must have been having a bad hair quote day ... I fixed up the original posts now to correctly credit AriG.