The quantum being – and what I choose to do about “it”

[Chester]

It is interesting to discover one is a quantum being. Not just to consider the possibility, but to reach a point where one “realizes” that this, in fact, is what they truly are. That this, in fact, is all and only what they truly are.

It is not so much a problem for the realizer. But it can become a problem for everyone else.

That is the very most interesting conundrum of self discovery. That last step taken. Nothing else left to prove (to yourself). It now becomes all about how one can be in relation to the rest of all that appears to be.

It seems that sometimes when one achieves this final step in self knowing, the freedom one experiences becomes the greatest threat to the rest who have yet to achieve this final “thing to know.”

Its funny too. Because in getting to this very last thing to know, one understands why only the good die young. The good are simply the ones who achieved that freedom. They no longer serve a purpose to this world which, up until now, prefers to be a prison.

I found my most favorite compliment is when someone calls me crazy (or I hear I have that reputation of being crazy).

Is the world clearly not insane? And so if someone who resides in an insane world calls you insane does that not actually prove you might have shed your insanity?

It is funny wanting to be liked and yet having achieved the final thing to know about the self. It is wanting insane people to accept you anyway. Something insane about that idea, huh?

Anyways, I made two promises and so far have kept them (with one tiny exception). The first is that I chose to unretire and have remained unretired. The second is that I promised to stop apologizing and this one I broke just once.

What happened was that after achieving that final thing to know... that I am a quantum being, I did not integrate well enough the likelihood that there are other potential quantum beings who have yet to discover the last thing to know about themselves. I then “attacked” that person’s “safe place” (just with my words) and shattered their safety – a very big no no and anti-relationship.

So I PM’d that person my “last apology” and fortunately (at least to the best of my perception) I appear to have been forgiven (thank you... you probably know who you are).

So the final discovery required one more action. Now that I know (fully know) I am nothing but a quantum being, am I going to choose to live in relationship with other quantum beings or am I just going to burn holes through the universes?

Today I chose the former. Love to All Chester

[greybeard]

I find I have to be very careful about what I say and to whom I say it.
The initial enthusiasm and desire to share my findings quickly waned.
I leave subjects such as the holographic universe and quantum to the brave.--- smiling.

Best wishes
Chris

[Chester]

I find I have to be very careful about what I say and to whom I say it.
The initial enthusiasm and desire to share my findings quickly waned.
I leave subjects such as the holographic universe and quantum to the brave.--- smiling.

Best wishes
Chris

I am beginning to discover the same. Perhaps "we" don't actually want freedom though I can finally exclude myself from that "we." Did I already go to far? We shall see.

[GloriousPoetry]

Indeed we are multidimensional beings......mainstream thought doesn't come close to informing us of such...

[sirdipswitch]

I am an Immortal Spiritual Being Of The highest Order... this body is just a suit that I wear, to have this experience.

[TargeT]

I must be completely out of touch with what ever it is you people are in touch with.

I only find questions, the answers of which foster more questions.

I could not label my self as anything currently, but I don't feel bad about being uncertain, though it is comforting to know that some have the ability to "know" themselfs so well; perhaps one day I will too.

[DeDukshyn]

I find I have to be very careful about what I say and to whom I say it.
The initial enthusiasm and desire to share my findings quickly waned.
I leave subjects such as the holographic universe and quantum to the brave.--- smiling.

Best wishes
Chris

I am beginning to discover the same. Perhaps "we" don't actually want freedom though I can finally exclude myself from that "we." Did I already go to far? We shall see.

I don't think it is that we (meaning the masses) don't want freedom more than it is that we don't understand the depth of freedom available or what it is or where to get it. So (for me anyway) I show people down the rabbit hole and at first they seem too like it, but as you go deeper, it becomes foreign to some completely and certainly not a place where they percieve their freedom being hidden from them, thus it is approached with extreme caution or outright rejection by most.

The needed understanding is so huge for some that the shift required is a little to steep for most peoples comfort zones.

I'm fully agreeing with Chris -- something I have had to do as well, at the same time I don't mind people thinking i'm a little "mad" -- to most it would appear so anyway ;)

[modwiz]

I find I have to be very careful about what I say and to whom I say it.
The initial enthusiasm and desire to share my findings quickly waned.
I leave subjects such as the holographic universe and quantum to the brave.--- smiling.

Best wishes
Chris

Yes indeed. Look at the knowledge and method of expression Lao-Tzu had. He headed for the woods and lived the rest of his life there. Socrates chose differently. Oops!

[another bob]

It is interesting to discover one is a quantum being.

Yes indeed, Brother, and then it is interesting to discover we are actually not even that!

Eventually we may start to see that there is a trap inherent in any place we fixate identity.

As soon as we dream up a shiny new self-image, we have planted the seeds for more suffering, since all masks are inpermanent.

Don't stop anywhere, non-dwelling is the vehicle, the path, and its satisfaction.

The truth is, you do not know, and in fact you are not here to be a "knower".

That's a vanity that must dissolve if the Truth is to finally emerge through the BS we have superimposed on it with all our faux-identities.

Blessings!

[778 neighbour of some guy]

I must be completely out of touch with what ever it is you people are in touch with.

I only find questions, the answers of which foster more questions.

I could not label my self as anything currently, but I don't feel bad about being uncertain, though it is comforting to know that some have the ability to "know" themselfs so well; perhaps one day I will too.

If such honesty rules you are well on your way i think, be ware off false prophets though, trust your own little deja vu moments and you have experienced time travel through multiple dimensions simultaniously, we are almost always closer then we think, overthinking/overanalysing is what usualy screws breakthroughs up imo.

[TargeT]

overthinking/overanalysing is what usualy screws breakthroughs up imo.

that's my favorite pass-time :(

I do think I need to relax more and probably listen to myself more, I've had moments, and they seem very important, but they are fleeting and I can't even recall specific details about them now.

about the only time I feel like my intuition is working for me is during test taking, if I read a question and go with my first instinct its pretty amazing what the outcomes are, now if I could just do that in other aspects I'd probably be on the right track.

[DeDukshyn]

It is interesting to discover one is a quantum being.

Yes indeed, Brother, and then it is interesting to discover we are actually not even that!

Eventually we may start to see that there is a trap inherent in any place we fixate identity.

As soon as we dream up a shiny new self-image, we have planted the seeds for more suffering, since all masks are inpermanent.

Don't stop anywhere, non-dwelling is the vehicle, the path, and its satisfaction.

The truth is, you do not know, and in fact you are not here to be a "knower".

That's a vanity that must dissolve if the Truth is to finally emerge through the BS we have superimposed on it with all our faux-identities.

Blessings!

don Miguel Ruiz, an author I deeply respect for sharing the Toltec wisdom, basically says it the same way. Once you stop being concerned with what you are, the freedom of being what your are more easily moves in. We are ineffable, and thus any attempt to define "self" will always be an illusion or a representation. While that representation may be rue to your perceptions, no representation can accurately or wholly make that definition. All truly is metaphor, story, art.

Addition:

To me what Chester is doing here, is painting an art piece. I believe this is a healthy way to have a relationship to these deeper curiosities. Therefore he can still delve in these complexities, without having to question his true "selfi-ness" ;) and create or form a picture that is a metaphor to attempt to define the un-nameable. After-all, isn't this all anyone ever really does on a deeper level?

[778 neighbour of some guy]

I do think I need to relax more and probably listen to myself more,

Thats it, put your feet up, relax, smoke a carrot, it will pop back up when you least expect it.;)

[Chester]

I find I have to be very careful about what I say and to whom I say it.
The initial enthusiasm and desire to share my findings quickly waned.
I leave subjects such as the holographic universe and quantum to the brave.--- smiling.

Best wishes
Chris

Yes indeed. Look at the knowledge and method of expression Lao-Tzu had. He headed for the woods and lived the rest of his life there. Socrates chose differently. Oops!

Funny you say this... the other day I saw a picture of someone's tent. I never saw a tent so damn inviting. I have been scouring the local paper in search of a second hand tent. justone

[Chester]

It is interesting to discover one is a quantum being.

Yes indeed, Brother, and then it is interesting to discover we are actually not even that!

Eventually we may start to see that there is a trap inherent in any place we fixate identity.

As soon as we dream up a shiny new self-image, we have planted the seeds for more suffering, since all masks are inpermanent.

Don't stop anywhere, non-dwelling is the vehicle, the path, and its satisfaction.

The truth is, you do not know, and in fact you are not here to be a "knower".

That's a vanity that must dissolve if the Truth is to finally emerge through the BS we have superimposed on it with all our faux-identities.

Blessings!

don Miguel Ruiz, an author I deeply respect for sharing the Toltec wisdom, basically says it the same way. Once you stop being concerned with what you are, the freedom of being what your are more easily moves in. We are ineffable, and thus any attempt to define "self" will always be an illusion or a representation. While that representation may be rue to your perceptions, no representation can accurately or wholly make that definition. All truly is metaphor, story, art.

Addition:

To me what Chester is doing here, is painting an art piece. I believe this is a healthy way to have a relationship to these deeper curiosities. Therefore he can still delve in these complexities, without having to question his true "selfi-ness" ;) and create or form a picture that is a metaphor to attempt to define the un-nameable. After-all, isn't this all anyone ever really does on a deeper level?

Thank You - you precisely nailed it. Was nothing more than word art - two words - as simple as I can possibly paint it.

[modwiz]

Yes indeed. Look at the knowledge and method of expression Lao-Tzu had. He headed for the woods and lived the rest of his life there. Socrates chose differently. Oops!

Funny you say this... the other day I saw a picture of someone's tent. I never saw a tent so damn inviting. I have been scouring the local paper in search of a second hand tent. justone

Did it look like this one?

18509

[Chester]

Yes indeed. Look at the knowledge and method of expression Lao-Tzu had. He headed for the woods and lived the rest of his life there. Socrates chose differently. Oops!

Funny you say this... the other day I saw a picture of someone's tent. I never saw a tent so damn inviting. I have been scouring the local paper in search of a second hand tent. justone

Did it look like this one?

- The Pic of Modwiz's "abode"

That was it!

If I happen to have a guest over does one like that have room?

[TargeT]

I'd guess the footprint of that tent is something like 12x8 or bigger, definately enough room for two people, you can always go this route:

http://www.campingequipmentco.com.au/product_images/uploaded_images/mts-catalog.jpg

Multi room tent! (or something similar).

[another bob]

To me what Chester is doing here, is painting an art piece.

Ah, like on a . . . Blank Canvas?

;)

[Chester]

To me what Chester is doing here, is painting an art piece.

Ah, like on a . . . Blank Canvas?

;)

which is the best thread I ever found (so far) on Avalon

[another bob]

To me what Chester is doing here, is painting an art piece.

Ah, like on a . . . Blank Canvas?

;)

which is the best thread I ever found (so far) on Avalon

I'm hoping more will feel moved to add their paintbrushes, so we can wonder at the never-ending mosaic of our collective experience! In the meantime, enjoying your beautiful unfolding, and sincere inquiry, Brother!

Blessings!

[DeDukshyn]

To me what Chester is doing here, is painting an art piece.

Ah, like on a . . . Blank Canvas?

;)

Changing the metaphor a little ... ;)

Humans have issues with attaining fresh canvasses, most people keep trying to work with the same canvass their whole lives and end up with a dull grey monotone canvass by the end. The hard part is letting the current one go completely and starting fresh with each new experience instead of dragging the paint of past experiences into our new painting. God has a whole workshop of canvass makers willing to hand out a new one anytime it is requested, but we get too caught up in trying to fix our past paintings, when sometimes what we really need to do is just let go of the canvass in front of us and start fresh

My 2 cents .. from the analogy train ;)

[rgray222]

The destiny of the soul is to repeat this human experience until it is performed correctly, each thought and each vocalization belongs to the universe and is judged accordingly. The dimensions between light and the dark are too many for our human minds to comprehend. Each time you express yourself, not just your words but the thoughts you convey behind those words, it is identified and is slipped seamlessly into one of the dimensions between light and dark.

It takes many lifetimes to build that composite, it takes billions upon billions of thoughts, actions and ideas to complete your dimension. It begins as a patchwork of everything that you are and over time it grows into your personal mosaic, unlike any other ever assembled. No one person will ever live a perfect life, that much is a given. Over time you will live small pieces of each life correctly, over lifetimes one dimension begins to emerge. It shines brighter or it will be darker than all the others, it will be unique.

It is a fantasy to believe that we are all equal beyond this life. Your are nothing more than a collection of your choices.

This mosaic (the quantum being - and what you choose to do about it) will determine your place in this vast universe. In essence it is the birth of your soul.

[danimyl]

I'm intrigued by this idea because from what I can discern with some quick searching (is there a definitive source for this idea?) the concept of the quantum being is essentially about being in touch with the part of us that is not here in the physical. That is very much in tune with my practice of Steps to Knowledge, which is essentially a program for bringing the personal self back in relationship with this portion of the self that is still connected to God. There also seems to be great focus in the quantum being concept on the idea of our relationship to everything else as a determining factor for our experience.

I'm a little boggled by some sentiments here, though.
He headed for the woods and lived the rest of his life there. Does that really represent what your fully realized, final self is asking you to accomplish in this life? To bow out, possibly gracefully, and just coast through your remaining days in enlightened bliss? This is what troubles me about so much popular (and unpopular) spirituality. There seems to be a prevailing notion that escaping conflict, difficulty, or mundane existence in general is a worthy goal of spirituality. We can't all be destined for asceticism, can we? Whether it's viewed as transcendence, bliss, or just plain escapism, I can't quite accept the idea that my ultimate goals here will fail to involve service as the fundamental activity of physical life.


destiny of the soul is to repeat this human experience until it is performed correctly And this idea, while sound at its core, doesn't really speak to the "why" or "to what end" questions about just what is to be done with this time in the body. It's clearly a grueling experience to come here even once. If we're so determined to do it again and again there must be some really compelling reasons. I'm not sure that "completing my dimension/mosaic" is enough to bring me back here so many times.

I'm feeling like these ideas, and so many more that stem from these essential concepts, are not based on living a life of purposeful service as a path to redemption. Is there a destination for the Spirit apart from this? Anybody want to expand on this a bit?

[Chester]

it has been my idea of late that as I get used to my quantum beingness, that I actually dive head first into life but with two thoughts... one is, how does my splash effect others? Especially when I do the cannon ball?

and... the other thought (the actual motivator) is - now that I know there is nothing to fear but fear itself, how far do I go and how fast do I get there? Do I want it to end in an instant? Nope - it just (finally) got fun.

One thought seems the governor of the other thought... somewhere between the two may be balance. We shall see. justonequantumbeing

[Chester]

I'm intrigued by this idea because from what I can discern with some quick searching (is there a definitive source for this idea?) the concept of the quantum being is essentially about being in touch with the part of us that is not here in the physical. That is very much in tune with my practice of Steps to Knowledge, which is essentially a program for bringing the personal self back in relationship with this portion of the self that is still connected to God. There also seems to be great focus in the quantum being concept on the idea of our relationship to everything else as a determining factor for our experience.

I'm a little boggled by some sentiments here, though.
He headed for the woods and lived the rest of his life there. Does that really represent what your fully realized, final self is asking you to accomplish in this life? To bow out, possibly gracefully, and just coast through your remaining days in enlightened bliss? This is what troubles me about so much popular (and unpopular) spirituality. There seems to be a prevailing notion that escaping conflict, difficulty, or mundane existence in general is a worthy goal of spirituality. We can't all be destined for asceticism, can we? Whether it's viewed as transcendence, bliss, or just plain escapism, I can't quite accept the idea that my ultimate goals here will fail to involve service as the fundamental activity of physical life.


destiny of the soul is to repeat this human experience until it is performed correctly And this idea, while sound at its core, doesn't really speak to the "why" or "to what end" questions about just what is to be done with this time in the body. It's clearly a grueling experience to come here even once. If we're so determined to do it again and again there must be some really compelling reasons. I'm not sure that "completing my dimension/mosaic" is enough to bring me back here so many times.

I'm feeling like these ideas, and so many more that stem from these essential concepts, are not based on living a life of purposeful service as a path to redemption. Is there a destination for the Spirit apart from this? Anybody want to expand on this a bit?

Great post and there's much to respond to - but the initial thing I felt when I read your post and questions as to why I would keep coming back... when I look into the eyes of my step-daughter, my sons, my wife and my sister, I know why I keep coming back.

[Chester]

Sometimes a quantum being might start a thread and then discover later on s/he is the last one to get to the party...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49497-The-Morphogenetic-Fields.-Everything-is-everything-.

and this thread (and in particular this page)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-The-Ego-what-is-it-How-to-transcend-it.&p=551479&viewfull=1#post551479

quantum being

two words

Since this medium of the forum requires words, I use words. Some folks take the words literally (nothing wrong with that). Some folks see me pointing to the moon (see the words metaphorically) and the moon they see is different than the moon I point to because our angle of view is different though perhaps we both share a great deal of common territory as to how we view that moon.

I am glad to be a quantum being. The "quantum" part informs me of my actual limitlessness as to potential experience and the freedom inherent in being such a "realized" being. The "being" part informs me of my finity (from the view of the "I"dentity) which is humbling and counter balances my uninhibited state of freedom - something I find other quantum beings just can't stand! haha

There - more strokes upon this particular word canvas.

[markpierre]

Sometimes a quantum being might start a thread and then discover later on s/he is the last one to get to the party...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49497-The-Morphogenetic-Fields.-Everything-is-everything-.

and this thread (and in particular this page)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-The-Ego-what-is-it-How-to-transcend-it.&p=551479&viewfull=1#post551479

quantum being

two words

Since this medium of the forum requires words, I use words. Some folks take the words literally (nothing wrong with that). Some folks see me pointing to the moon (see the words metaphorically) and the moon they see is different than the moon I point to because our angle of view is different though perhaps we both share a great deal of common territory as to how we view that moon.

I am glad to be a quantum being. The "quantum" part informs me of my actual limitlessness as to potential experience and the freedom inherent in being such a "realized" being. The "being" part informs me if my finity (from the view of the "I"dentity) which is humbling and counter balances my uninhibited state of freedom - something I find other quantum beings just can't stand! haha

There - more strokes upon this particular word canvas.

I liked this quote from that thread:

"What is surrender? The surrender that can be done is not true surrender.

Who surrenders to what? Who surrenders what?" Ya, that sounds like another bob.

I think Papaji was implying that it's more like death than surrender. Like you what? Hold up a white flag? Sell all your stuff?
Look at how tightly we still hold on to ideas. Everyone.

When everything's torn from your hands and your values and your beliefs and it's gone. You can't even remember what it was because the emptiness is so impossible.
I think attachments are only meaningless after the fact.
Even your body is useless to you. Dying is useless to you.
Then you've surrendered.
It's nothing you did of your own, because no one can do that willingly.

The caviet is there are no unpleasant surprises.

[Chester]

Great Post markpierre - thanks

[markpierre]

Great Post markpierre - thanks

Well it's something that bothers me a little bit sometimes Chester. That people can think that somehow they 'earn' their enlightenment.
Enlightenment is inevitable. It happens when a light comes on. Nothing anyone did that they weren't compelled to.
When someone discovers that all they've ever been doing is denying 'what is' because they had some idea they wanted it some other way.
It's an unwanted realization, so it gets put off as long as we can get away with putting it off. Is that earning it? I surrendered. Big deal.
Same thing works on the level of discovering the world is a snake pit. That's only a 25W bulb in the big picture.
People want to blame the snakes and be the heroes that kill them.

[Chester]

Just a suggestion... consider what Tim Freke has to offer about all this...

http://www.lifeartsmedia.com/tim-freke-the-mystery-experience-2?utm_source=Critiques+of+Spirituality+&utm_campaign=Critiques+of+Spirituality&utm_medium=email

This argument - that we are one and we are separate is hard to refute for just this one quantum being. Cheers Chester

[Finefeather]

Just a suggestion... consider what Tim Freke has to offer about all this...

http://www.lifeartsmedia.com/tim-freke-the-mystery-experience-2?utm_source=Critiques+of+Spirituality+&utm_campaign=Critiques+of+Spirituality&utm_medium=email

This argument - that we are one and we are separate is hard to refute for just this one quantum being. Cheers Chester

I did watch this video and Tim Freke has IMO got the key to the dreaded mystery we are all rushing around to find.

I just had a look to see what the normal meaning of quantum was and it is quite eye opening:(these are copied - not my own):
"In physics, a quantum is the minimum amount of any physical entity involved in an interaction."...also...this could be stated as..."the smallest quantity of some physical property, such as energy, that a system can possess according to the quantum theory"...and then...we see this word being used as in, a sudden, or a spectacular, or a vitally important improvement, as in when we say. "a quantum improvement".
source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/quantum

I am not trying to give anyone an English lesson here but we should clearly see the mess we can get ourselves into when we use complex words to describe things. Depending on who we are addressing we might get different reactions when saying, "I am a quantum Being" like, You have become the minimum amount of any physical entity involved in an interaction...this is from a scientific point of view...or...You have suddenly, or spectacularly, made a vitally important improvement in your life...as in quantum leap.

But there is an amazing connection to all these seemingly contradictory interpretations of this word, if we could just contemplate the bigger picture...
We know from science that quantum particles seem to disappear and reappear at different places and all done instantly. There is no time as we know it elapsing and it all seems like magic...and Johnny, down the road, who used to be the biggest crook in town, suddenly, one day, woke up and became the most enlightened bloke on the block, and everyone who knew him said, "wow - it's like magic", and that is just what it is...the magic of creating our own reality. One second we can be one thing and the next moment we can be something completely different. Everything is just one thought away. Whatever it was that was keeping Johnny from enlightenment suddenly turned on after that one last thought and it was enough to tip the scales. From that point it is often a seesaw, in and out of enlightenment, like the quantum particle, depending on who is doing the driving of the body on any day...or...from that moment Johnny becomes a new reality...a quantum leap, a spectacular improvement with his new thought. If you take an ice block out of your freezer and place it in a pot and add heat (increased vibration - enlightenment) it goes from solid to liquid to gas, 3 different realities same H2O. It is all happening right under our noses, every day of our lives.

What is clear is that we seem to have 2 sides to ourselves, maybe this is what is called moodiness, we swing from being help-ful to being self-ful. The one side seems to take care of our own personal needs and the other seeks to serve others. The truth is that we need balance and if we fail to look after our own needs we will be unable to assist others. We need to have time out to pamper ourselves and generally enjoy our life, else what is the point. Some, on the other hand, are unable to have a moments time to themselves because they have come for others only, and some seem to come just for their own selfish needs. However you have come you are still a part of the great family of the human Spirit. You need to look no further than yourself to find it all. You are exactly as you are, right now, at this moment, because everything you have done and thought up till now is a perfect replica of who you are...and the magic is that we can change it all in one small thought.

There are far too many people who get caught up in the hype about spirituality...We have come to increase our consciousness and not our Spirituality, we are ALL already as Spiritual as we will ever be, we have been Spiritual from the beginning, but we have not always been conscious...So, We have NOT come here to become spiritual, we come here to understand and overcome the negative attitudes we have, so that we can both enjoy our lives AND live in harmony with one another by being of service to those who are just a little deeper into the mess of materialism than we might be. Sure, some do come to have the experience of a full spiritual awakening, but most of these people end up sitting under trees in isolated places and in reality are only serving them selves. They might end up with a book full of wise sayings but have not lived in the deep end of life and are often quite naive to the reality of the physical planes...but they are doing their part.
Some come with built in knowledge and some come and slowly awaken to great heights of spiritual awareness as their memory is awakened for some task. Yes there are older and younger 'souls' (and note I have used commas for a good reason) in existence but at the level above 'soul' we are all exactly the same...We are highly advanced Beings who have been around for millions of years. We have chosen to incarnate onto this planet at this time to have the greatest experience of our lives...and experience means more consciousness. We have each chosen our many lives during this cycle in order to conquer the physical body which has been created by other even more highly advanced Beings (in full collaboration I might add, and it includes all the many mysteries) so that we can live on this world in peace and harmony and love. We have a while to go yet, with all the negative influences and corruption and insane things taking place right now, but these are here for one reason only, and that is to challenge you to the game. Many will fall and many will live in pain and suffering, but these are often the stronger who choose to be of service so that the weaker can witness the struggle and eventually stand together as one so that the true nature of the Spirit can blossom and bloom and display it's glory on what is currently a place where many care not to be. We each have chosen a bit to do, we as the collective need to grow and become one. We need to throw out all ideas of 'us and them' and once again become one loving family of Spiritual Beings which we are and have always been.

Love you All
Ray

[Chester]

If it can be understood the handicap in having to use words, then you can tolerate the following dribble, if not, I would recommend skipping this post.

Here is better idea as to why I chose the word “quantum” as one of the two words I strung together in describing who/what I am.
We all know how poetry borrows meaning from words and in the usage case here, one must put on the hat of a reader of poetry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum
“In physics,” (and note, I am applying the word metaphysically) the word means “the minimum amount of any physical entity involved in an interaction.”

This suggests that any “movement” which includes my thoughts, words (spoken or written) and deeds that comes forth from me has an effect on the whole and thus if I accept that this is true, I am then faced with the question, “Am I, or not, responsible in some way, for every single re-action that comes forth in the realms of existence?”

Once I understood how little ole me may actually “impose upon” any other manifestation, I had to make a choice related to personal responsibility.

I accept the responsibility that I actually do affect the all that is. And this is a very humbling realization because up until I realized it, I burnt holes through the fabrics of all the universes. And look at this lovely current mess we are in? haha. And now, even worse, I must face the fact that, even though at this very moment I realize my full responsibility in the current manifest state of all that is in this now moment, I will most likely once again forget this fact and think, speak or write and even do something which only later will I look back upon with regret. So now I am doubly humbled! Trapped in my own trickery, trapped in my own creation... trapped?

Not trapped if I accept the second part of the term I came up with... the “being” part. The part that “allows” me simply to “be.” The good, the bad and the ugly of me (as only can be judged through hindsight). To be in every now moment and to be in the perceived future I might have as long as I never choose to return from whence I came.

Where did I come from?

I found when I went into my deepest awake state, I came upon a doorway that opened up unto the unmanifest. I considered this to be the last doorway to find (to return to) on my circular journey of self discovery. I sensed on the other side of that doorway was me without the “me” part. I sensed I could always return “home” but that I perhaps may have missed an opportunity.

For that reason I have yet to go (back) through that doorway.

Back? Where does that come from?

What I also came upon in my circular journey was the possibility (I leave it only at this... a possibility - though I make the possibility a 99.999 (repeating) % chance this is true) that I am that same unmanifest (originally) that inspired “the all that is” yet I played a trick on myself that allowed me to fool myself I am not. Now that I have found myself inside the vast realm of which naturally came forth through accomplishment of this first trick (inside the material realms... and indeed all realms where any form of this as opposed to that can be perceived) I have come to the following conclusions.

I can decide I have indeed fooled myself (which thus makes me a fool) start at point zero (funny how the first tarot card is The Fool – 0) and work my way through it all (which would take an eternity) or I can return to my original “state” – unmanifest – which is an “unstate” actually.

Let me use different words.

I can rest in the comfort I am a “child” of “god” or I can return to my original “state” as “god.” Now if I choose to return to my original state, the “I” goes away, you won’t see me here, I won’t be able to experience form in any way, much less experience “life” in the vast material realms.

Today I am happy to be that child, a fool, an explorer, an opportunist perhaps... I also found playing “god” less satisfying than being “god’s child” - one who chooses to be in positive relationship with all other fools who have made their first move from home base and plunged into the “real world.”

Ray calls this choosing to live in harmony. That is the last choice IMO to make meaning that when you make this choice, there can be no more choices left which could have greater impact upon us all and the rest of experience in front of us.

I am glad, today, that I have made this choice to be in harmony. We shall see how well I honor my choice.

I am empowered in knowing I cannot be destroyed though I might choose at some point to “reabsorb within my unself original state.” Something tells me I won’t make this choice, ever...

But, since I never really know what I might choose to do allows the mystery to remain interesting, exciting, joyful.

There... ramblings of the day from a “realized quantum being.”

Yes, now we have three words strung together to ponder.

Love to All and Enjoy the Day/Night... Chester

[Finefeather]

Hi Chester...great to see you have gone back to your picture as your avatar...

You just went from :
.Avatar (computing), the graphical representation of a user.


To:
.In Hinduism, an avatar is a deliberate descent of a deity to earth, or a descent of the Supreme Being and is mostly translated into English as "incarnation," but more accurately as "appearance" or "manifestation"

Welcome back brother, we know where you were for a while, but now you have returned.
Love to you
Ray

PS: would'nt it be nice if we could see all the people we meet on this forum, wonder what they are hiding?

[DeDukshyn]

it has been my idea of late that as I get used to my quantum beingness, that I actually dive head first into life but with two thoughts... one is, how does my splash effect others? Especially when I do the cannon ball?

and... the other thought (the actual motivator) is - now that I know there is nothing to fear but fear itself, how far do I go and how fast do I get there? Do I want it to end in an instant? Nope - it just (finally) got fun.

One thought seems the governor of the other thought... somewhere between the two may be balance. We shall see. justonequantumbeing

I got to that "really fun" part a few years back, hard to explain - but if you're there, you know what I am on about. However, I will warn you I "lost" it. I didn't think it possible, I am back on the "road" to "recovery" in that sense, but I now realize that the pursuit must be consistent. I think you already know this by some things about the teacher being the student that you said in the past, I'm just reinforcing that truth from the other side .. becoming the student as the teacher is actually required, as it would seem, or at least the continuous pursuit. Without it, certain things are actually lost, which I guess now thinking about it is the experience of certain Truths, as opposed to the contemplation of such.
Cheers to the "Really Fun" part ;-) I'll get back there very soon myself ;)