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christian
5th October 2012, 21:35
The essential piece of warfare these days is the information-war. Information shifts public opinion regarding wars since a very long time.

So why don't countries like Libya (well, too late now), Syria, Iran, et. al. produce movies? They have the moral right on their side right now, but they don't pound on it. Why? Why does pretty much all the decent info, videos, etc. come from grassroots activists? Why don't those countries support the movements of dissatisfied people in the Western world to raise awareness etc.? They could do it peacefully, not like the West, that supports fundamentalists to do genocidal raids.

Why do the victims of the blatant war crimes not fight back on the information front? There's RT, but that's about it, PressTV from Iran but why don't they spread comprehensive "this is what's going on, wake up people" videos?

When they don't really fight back, it's no wonder the general population can be so easily convinced, that they Assad for instance is a nasty dictator, while they forget about what Obama, the EUdssr and all the rest are doing on our home turf.

This is really odd. But whatever the answers to those questions are, it seems that no politician, country or whatever is equipped to do what it takes to end all this madness of lies and war. It's up to us to make the news and spread the news. We will either overcome this from the grassroots level or not at all.

Lifebringer
5th October 2012, 22:24
Perhaps there is a "freeze on their net" they could text like they did in Egypt.

jackovesk
5th October 2012, 22:47
I call it the SUPPRESSION


Somethings a brewin
Underneath people are a stewin

Religion is the CLAW
To blind the eyes of what they Saw

Poverty lends to no rebuttle
HurryUp move along, nothing to see here, time to scuttle

The Pig-Leaders are (All-In-It Together)
Not time to fight, button down the hatches and cowl to the Weather

Wait not, Want not you will see
Is (Not-The-Way) if you want to be FREE..!

Only 1 thing can (Force-Open) the EyE's of the Muslim/Christian Worshippers and that is a (FULL-ON) ET Contact Event that will show the Sheeplelites that The Prophet of Islam Mohammed &/or The Son of Christ Jesus are albeit nothing but an Open-Ended (Fairy-Story) designed to CONTROL the masses...:yes4:

gooty64
5th October 2012, 23:05
Not sure if this what you are looking for Mr. OP but, North Korea did a movie documentary painting a rather bleak and nasty view of the western world/America.

I see there was a thread about this movie/docu/propaganda film was posted back in June on avalon on a thread and 7 people "thanked" the OP for posting it (including you).

I thought this documentary was very enlightening although somewhat slanted.

So, North Korea did it, OP.

Don't ya think?

6NMr2VrhmFI

christian
5th October 2012, 23:42
Not sure if this what you are looking for Mr. OP but, North Korea did a movie documentary painting a rather bleak and nasty view of the western world/America.

I remember that. North Korea has of course hardly any moral superiority and they don't focus very much on actual crimes of the West, although they do mention some important ones in this movie. But overall it's more like a sweeping blow against Western culture per se with some good points and some that are based on "ideological bias".

I thought about something like Kony, just the other way round. Include info about General Wesley Clark and how he was made privy to the plan to take down 7 nations in 5 years shortly after 9-11, then how the West created and still funds Al Qaida, how the Arab Spring is a farce with organizations like Otpor and again Western backed religious fundamentalists and Al CIAda devastating the countries and mass-murdering civilians instead of being the alleged freedom fighters. There is tons of info about actual cases out there, tons of journalists and witnesses. Think Tanks speaking openly about committing crimes and the list goes on an on.

The information is all there, there's nothing new for you all I guess, the information is damning and overwhelming. Syria and Iran are faced with war and annihilation. The situation is as serious as can be. And what do they do on the information front? Next to nothing. They should produce a comprehensive statement and make their case. They should show the world how the West advances to destabilize and take over the Middle East. Those governments should produce and urge people worldwide to look at those documentaries and this would really change a lot, you bet!

Just remember how far "an incovenient truth" or "kony" got. When a government like Iran or Syria produces a movie or something similar right now this would definitely get a lot of attention. This is something else than another movie produced by an "(anonymous) conspiracy theorist". Now imagine what would happen with a movie that actually stands on the ground of truth. But I won't wait for them to do it, I can't in good faith, because after all the only way to really live in peace and prosperity as a collective is by becoming empowered individuals.

jackovesk
6th October 2012, 00:08
What do have to say about what I posted 'above' Christian...?

or is that way too controversial for someone in your position to respond to..?

christian
6th October 2012, 00:23
What do have to say about what I posted 'above' Christian...?

or is that way too controversial for someone in your position to respond to..?

To be quite honest, I just don't feel like I have a proper grasp on what you were saying or alluding to, so I decided to remain silent till a proper question or answer would come up.

I don't feel comfortable with the idea that disclosure is the only thing that could help humanity to get on the path of reason, truth, harmony and peace. And although religion and the artificially formented conflict between religions is a major issue in world affairs, I think most people have their own ideas about life and don't feel comfortable as part of a 'sect'. And neither the crimes of the West in the Middle East nor the exposure of those crimes have a lot to do with religion to a large degree, it's mostly about plain facts about crimes and so on.

And I don't understand what you mean by suppression. Who is suppressing what?

jackovesk
6th October 2012, 00:52
What do have to say about what I posted 'above' Christian...?

or is that way too controversial for someone in your position to respond to..?

To be quite honest, I just don't feel like I have a proper grasp on what you were saying or alluding to, so I decided to remain silent till a proper question or answer would come up.

I don't feel comfortable with the idea that disclosure is the only thing that could help humanity to get on the path of reason, truth, harmony and peace. And although religion and the artificially formented conflict between religions is a major issue in world affairs, I think most people have their own ideas about life and don't feel comfortable as part of a 'sect'. And neither the crimes of the West in the Middle East nor the exposure of those crimes have a lot to do with religion to a large degree, it's mostly about plain facts about crimes and so on.

And I don't understand what you mean by suppression. Who is suppressing what?

The Middle East is under attack and doesn't fight back..?

Answer: Because most of the people are Supressed (Controlled) by both Religion & Poverty...:yes4:

christian
6th October 2012, 01:03
What I had in mind is: Why don't their governments fight back? Western governments are funding 'rebels' and spend fortunes on subverting those countries from inside and they spent fortunes on propaganda. Syria and Iran don't expose the Western crimes as much as they could and they hardly fund any opposition groups in the West from what I can see.

"Syrian Girl" for instance by herself produces more valuable news items than the whole Syrian government it seems. That illustrates the miniscule efforts of the government to get active on the information front. "Iran loves Israel" is a quite popular group - grassroots. My point is, the governments of the Middle East should use the weapons they have, the info that exposes the Western crimes. It's all out there, they should shout it from the rooftops, it's about the safety and survival of their countries and populations.

Flash
6th October 2012, 01:07
who knows, the government agents may be paid not to publish/make videos at all.

On the other hand, who ever said governments are creative??

Third, when fighting a war or a take over of their country, they may just not have the time to do any worthwile video

Fourth, the videos, if any, would probably get no coverage in the West anyhow.

Fifth, who tells you they did not try, it is not made but they may have no avenues to present it to the public. Zero avenues.

jackovesk
6th October 2012, 01:18
What I had in mind is: Why don't their governments fight back? Western governments are funding 'rebels' and spend fortunes on subverting those countries from inside and they spent fortunes on propaganda. Syria and Iran don't expose the Western crimes as much as they could and they hardly fund any opposition groups in the West from what I can see.

"Syrian Girl" for instance by herself produces more valuable news items than the whole Syrian government it seems. That illustrates the miniscule efforts of the government to get active on the information front. "Iran loves Israel" is a quite popular group - grassroots. My point is, the governments of the Middle East should use the weapons they have, the info that exposes the Western crimes. It's all out there, they should shout it from the rooftops, it's about the safety and survival of their countries and populations.

Now we have 'Clarification' of the true meaning of your Heading...


The Middle East is under attack and doesn't fight back

I agree with your summation Christian...:yes4:

As to why they don't fight back..?

Too many PTW Puppets and Centuries upon Centuries of Control...

i.e. The 'Saudi Royal Family' are illegitimate rulers placed in there by the British and these people are not keen to reliquished their Power & Corrupt Wealth anytime soon...

However there is some 'Good News'...

The Saudi-Regime is in a 'Free-Fall COLLAPSE' and just like the Regimes before them who are doomed to failure...

Which ultimately points us back to your original question...

Will the people 'Rise-Up' and take back control of there own destiny, when given the opportunity..???

CdnSirian
6th October 2012, 01:49
Pretty mind blowing and not "wrong"...just seen from another viewpoint.

Kiforall
6th October 2012, 02:05
I really do understand the belief that Super spiritually advanced 'others' will be the only ones capable of bringing about a deeper understanding to all of humanity. I see a war that will carry on indefinitely until one side takes over, at the moment I don't think anyone knows how many sides there are. If the middle east was left alone by the west does anyone really believe that it will end there. Will that stop immigrants from the middle east gradually building control in their host country? I can't see it going nicely either way whilst the current leaders are so far away from Pandora's Box.
This is not in any way intended to be racist towards anyone it is just my belief of the truth I see.

Dennis Leahy
6th October 2012, 02:15
It really does make me wonder if the rulers of these countries are "behind the times" (simply do not yet recognize how powerful videos are - and how little money and time it would take to put them together.) Will Google/YouTube even allow them to be played?

I do know of projects being done by non-governmental people - people who are trying to change the world by using documentaries to awaken and inform. If anyone cares enough about drone bombing - especially in Pakistan - they can actually help fund the new anti-drone documentary project being produced by Carol Anne Grayson. Carol was also executive producer of the (Academy Award nominated) "Incident In New Baghdad" short documentary that used footage from the Wikileaks-leaked Apache helicopter, murdering civilians in Iraq.

Here a link if anyone wants to help fund the documentary The Approximate Target (http://approximatetargetfilm.com/).

Dennis

TOTHE
6th October 2012, 03:22
My impressions are that everything is normal in creation.

Assume that there are psychic wars are being fought on the etheric bands around Earth. I call them “The God Wars”. The etheric bands were created by the aspects from our consciousness since the big bang. Those wars above are being reflected here on Earth.

The Universal vibrational densities of consciousness have dismantled in 2009 the machine intelligence that was currently controlling our evolution for 450,000 years ( Oh, there may have been others who have tried in our distant past, it seems logical ). It takes time for the very,very heavy and very, very dense human collective to adapt to this or we will have mass psychosis.

The angelic entity, Gaia, will leaving soon and we will be left on our own to be creators for and on the planet. We have a lot to do yet to make the planet livable for the new reincarnates coming in as I write this post. Certain sorcerers are corrupting the human genome to try and stall us from evolving too soon, a game that has been in play for a very long, long time. Fear of losing power corrupts those who wield it and fear of the of the scourge of power corrupts those who are subject to it.

Now is the time in our evolution to develop our 5 angelic senses.
Awareness.
Compassion.
Imagination.
Focus.
Expression.

I don’t hear voices in my head, I don’t channel or do any of the “New Age” stuff such as crystals, ORME’s, MMS or wands of Horus. I just use all 5 physical body senses. You see, I am just one who has learned to walk in my divinity along with my probably calcified pineal gland. All of you can do this..please wake up and use the body of consciousness...the wonderful biochemical tool you have been endowed with to link up with your soul consciousness. The 5 physical senses below mimic the 5 angelic senses above. What happens above above so happens below, and that goes with creation and evolution on the physical.

Herein I shall release and share some of my energy to you all:
To all who read this I send you Light, Love, health, tenacity and courage.

ghostrider
6th October 2012, 04:59
lets just go to war with every country for a week , set up a north and south dividing line like Korea , build your dam bases, go on TV and do the talking head speech ( we have brought freedom to the world blah blah ) . Then , our government can declare peace on earth cause we already had war with everyone and all the local economy of every country will be helped by U.S. dollars pouring in and construction to rebuild what we just blew up, No more need for killing and war , we already did it, lets move to the next phase = PEACE . I' m soooooooooooooooooo tired of W A R , we were at war when I was born, and we still fight today 47 years later and it changes nothing. time for P E A C E . Soldiers of the world, hear me, hand your weapons of war to the politicians and say if you want war, YOU go fight the other politicians , YOU go kill someone you never met. WE quit, time for peace and healing. Let the governments from now on do the fighting , let the leaders duke it out , may the best man win, could save alot of lives, no child would miss daddy, no mother would miss a son, no daughter would grow up an orphan, no funerals, no PTSD , Hell make a world boxing ring , give em gloves and ring the bell.

161803398
6th October 2012, 07:52
http://libyadiary.wordpress.com/2011/03/01/declaration-of-the-authority-of-the-people/

http://libya360.wordpress.com/

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stop-the-aggression-in-Libya/186296531416909

http://www.youtube.com/user/hhhpets

http://syria360.wordpress.com/

http://piazzadcara.wordpress.com/2012/10/03/nato-terrorists-mass-slaughter-civilians-in-aleppo-syria/

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Syria-24-English/298382103530912

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Team-Palestina/198580813517826?ref=ts&fref=ts

http://www.facebook.com/Tunisian.Quest.for.Truth?ref=ts&fref=ts

http://www.facebook.com/syria.news.news?ref=ts&fref=ts

http://vivalibya.wordpress.com/cases/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=46x0A4UTKUI&noredirect=1#!

deridan
6th October 2012, 08:24
i agree jackovesk that it would be expedient to have one event that can dissolve illusions,
{this is one ship mate trying to impose directive influence, or simply free space up for influence to happen, which would happen naturally if causes and effects are not incorrectly entangled}
but its not going to be one against religion, one could say there is a wand of religion held by people, and there is a wand held by government, and it is the latter we want let go of
i think the east does not fight back ... cause they have the 'media support' of how things have been, there social consciousness thru that can explain now and what is to come,
in the west -let us be disguisted with ourselves- machinizations towards war starts happening when our inituitions are informed of some injustice, lending that faculty of will to peoples to see there young men dismembered in wars
my personal view, is that if america becomes involved in iran, its a short route to world war 3, that if there is a really a set principle on war, then isreal should go it alone,

there may be no sides, simply a money side,...hence the 'need' to overrun syria and iran and let them run according to whatever model standard is in mind.
(next question, can we run many worlds within this dome; or is the milieu of this world so wide we'd have to leave here before we know if anything has been concluded)
{i think dropping religions so suddenly would create a panic, and confusion to people who would as a mass have to create a new consciousness}
{agreed christian, this is something we should get right amongst ourselves}

K626
6th October 2012, 10:02
The essential piece of warfare these days is the information-war. Information shifts public opinion regarding wars since a very long time.

So why don't countries like Libya (well, too late now), Syria, Iran, et. al. produce movies? They have the moral right on their side right now, but they don't pound on it. Why? Why does pretty much all the decent info, videos, etc. come from grassroots activists? Why don't those countries support the movements of dissatisfied people in the Western world to raise awareness etc.? They could do it peacefully, not like the West, that supports fundamentalists to do genocidal raids.

Why do the victims of the blatant war crimes not fight back on the information front? There's RT, but that's about it, PressTV from Iran but why don't they spread comprehensive "this is what's going on, wake up people" videos?

When they don't really fight back, it's no wonder the general population can be so easily convinced, that they Assad for instance is a nasty dictator, while they forget about what Obama, the EUdssr and all the rest are doing on our home turf.

This is really odd. But whatever the answers to those questions are, it seems that no politician, country or whatever is equipped to do what it takes to end all this madness of lies and war. It's up to us to make the news and spread the news. We will either overcome this from the grassroots level or not at all.

They don't have a platfrom in 'the west' for counter propoganda in much the same way that america bought up most of the distribution system for cinema in europe and use this as a
conduit for all their Hollywood product. The only place in euro where there is resistence is France where there is a ticket tax that goes into french cinema production.

There is really no such thing as actual news...It is all agenda setting. In any given day a hundred items could be 'news' but the 20 or so that are chosen are because the fit the paradigm or narrative of the elites.

K

Kindred
6th October 2012, 11:18
Soldiers of the world, hear me, hand your weapons of war to the politicians and say if you want war, YOU go fight the other politicians , YOU go kill someone you never met. WE quit, time for peace and healing. ... let the leaders duke it out ... no child would miss daddy, no mother would miss a son, no daughter would grow up an orphan, no funerals, no PTSD ,

War will End, when WE, The People realize we gain nothing from it. When young people realize that taking up arms in the name of "God and Country", and/or to put food on the table, is Never worth the cost. It is the Young that we need to teach these concepts to, for They are the ones who are goaded into these murderous charades.

The Vietnam war ended when enough young people Realized the insanity, and rose up and resisted the political war machine. A similar circumstance needs to happen Again. The solution is to get the knowledge of these manipulations to enough young people to come to these realizations and refuse to sign on, as well as to actively resist the militarization of their lives.

This is a difficult task, particularly today. Many children (in this sense, I mean everyone from 13 yo, to about 30) are Completely Distracted by the gadgetry and media of our time. TPTB have done a very good job of distracting the West's youth from Reality, with the obvious results. It is a form of collective insanity, and is fomented by both electronic and chemical means.

OWS had a modicum of success, but it is easily infiltrated and redirected / thwarted, as well as being downplayed/dissed by the media, not to mention that these youth who have participated were being physically attacked by the control structure. Not many are willing to give up their comfort and 'freedom', never mind the costs associated with being incarcerated and run through the judicial circus.

I'm afraid the situation will need to get much worse before enough will have the impetus to 'wake up', and see the game for what it is - But I Hope Not.

Yes, 'videos' are good, but the people Truly need unfettered access to the Truth. PA is one 'source', albeit a 'backwater' in terms of the general populace. In one sense, I feel that PA is a "corral" for all the alternative thinkers and 'do'ers'... but I ask... What Do We Do? We do a LOT of typing and bantering amongst ourselves, and I'm certain that many Try to 'get the word out', as best they may. I know I Do, but in many cases, the info falls on deaf ears - many Do Not 'want to know'. MANY times I've heard the refrain "I don't believe in conspiracy theories". In this, TPTB have done a huge job via the MSM, and, to my mind, This is the arena that needs to be 'taken down'. The primary solution is to gently and carefully plant seeds of doubt and encourage others to seek the Truth on their own.

MSM is Slowly becoming ineffective, as more 'awaken' to the lies. I feel that any effort should be directed in debunking the lies as soon as possible, and get the truth to 'the people', in as many venues as possible. Saturating as many information venues as possible with Truth is a very effective means to accomplish such a goal so as to override the nonsense streamed 24/7 by the MSM. This is why tptb pay to have so many shills ridiculing via chat rooms and media online commentary boards - they Know that public opinion can be swayed with enough commentary tilted to what they wish to have known. It's another reason that they saturated the airwaves with all the stuff about 9/11 Immediately during and after it happened. Tell a lie quickly and often enough, it becomes 'truth' - and with enough people, it becomes 'reality' by consensus.

So, there we are... The Truth needs to be Openly revealed and discussed in as many venues as possible, particularly so during the course of everyday communications, in Every Manner Possible. When the '100th monkey' level is reached, THEN Everyone Will Know.

Speak the Truth in Everything you do. Do Not Be forceful, but be Kind and Persistent. Know when to 'back down', But Never Give Up.

And ALWAYS, Speak in terms that reflect Love.

In Unity, Peace and Love

Chester
6th October 2012, 12:08
The essential piece of warfare these days is the information-war. Information shifts public opinion regarding wars since a very long time.

Seem so, Christian. I have heard it referred to as "world view warfare." A self explanatory term. By controlling an individual's or a collective's world view, you can more easily control the "being."


So why don't countries like Libya (well, too late now), Syria, Iran, et. al. produce movies? They have the moral right on their side right now, but they don't pound on it. Why? Why does pretty much all the decent info, videos, etc. come from grassroots activists? Why don't those countries support the movements of dissatisfied people in the Western world to raise awareness etc.? They could do it peacefully, not like the West, that supports fundamentalists to do genocidal raids.

Many possible reasons - possibility one is because these very "they" are victims of their own world view manipulation - how can they use a western world device (such as movies) to fight "movie makers." Another possibility - the far more insidious one, is that the "they" are part of the "secret government" and thus its all show biz at our level of experience. We either find ourselves steered by the projected movie OR we see the manipulation then rise up in protest about being manipulated. Both serve the same purpose which is nothing more than to cause strife and bring forth the lower vibration energies/emotions.


Why do the victims of the blatant war crimes not fight back on the information front? There's RT, but that's about it, PressTV from Iran but why don't they spread comprehensive "this is what's going on, wake up people" videos?

When they don't really fight back, it's no wonder the general population can be so easily convinced, that they Assad for instance is a nasty dictator, while they forget about what Obama, the EUdssr and all the rest are doing on our home turf.

This is really odd. But whatever the answers to those questions are, it seems that no politician, country or whatever is equipped to do what it takes to end all this madness of lies and war. It's up to us to make the news and spread the news. We will either overcome this from the grassroots level or not at all.

We may find it true what you suggest - that it can only come up from the grassroots level. My current handicapping makes that a big underdog at the moment because I believe that the only way this occurs is for the grass roots folks to find out, remember, learn... whatever word you might think best - that we are all quantum beings. The system is designed such that the masses have a low probability of discovering this (what I believe is the) truth.

Yet David Icke, for example, does a darn good job of getting that truth out there. So if one of us can do that, others can as well and many others do... I just picked out David Icke as he (to me) has done the job better than any other living quantum being.

Enjoy the Day - Chester

christian
6th October 2012, 12:12
i.e. The 'Saudi Royal Family' are illegitimate rulers placed in there by the British and these people are not keen to reliquished their Power & Corrupt Wealth anytime soon...

The Saudis are assets, that's why there's no build up against them by the west, although their human rights record is really bad. So of course they don't produce anything to expose Western crimes.


If the middle east was left alone by the west does anyone really believe that it will end there. Will that stop immigrants from the middle east gradually building control in their host country?

That's "divide and conquer". It only works because we're living in an artificial society with artificial scarcity. Set technology free, let us get rid of systems that poison our bodies and minds and you'll see how cultural differences don't matter that much anymore. We're one family.


They don't have a platfrom in 'the west' for counter propoganda in much the same way that america bought up most of the distribution system for cinema in europe and use this as a conduit for all their Hollywood product.

I'm not buying it. How hard is it to produce a decent 30-60 minute film that documents the history of Western crimes in the Middle East in the last say 10 years? Then Assad or Ahmadinejad would just speak in front of cameras one sentence: "People of the West, please watch this before you attack us, this is all I ask of you." Then he'd repeat that statement day after day. They gotta show how serious they are about people in the world getting informed about what's really going on. They can make the video available online and offer translations as well. It's that simple. The platform is - of course - the internet. Does neither take too much money, nor too much time, nor too much creativity. There'd be myriads of volunteers to help.

Syria and Iran are facing existential threats, they should do everything possible to counter this. If they don't do it, it's negligence and dilettantism. Information could be their mightiest weapon to make the people in the West and in the world in general aware of what's happening, so that public opinion would really make those wars impossible.


Another possibility - the far more insidious one, is that the "they" are part of the "secret government" and thus its all show biz at our level of experience.

"As above so below." When both parties are owned by the same people ... why not the different players on the grand chessboard as well?

The Soviets were funded by Wall Street, that's on record. The communist Chinese have received lots of support by the cabal as well. That's really something to ponder. Is the same dog and pony show, that we have in our individual countries, going on on a world scale? Would be one more reason to take the initiative, as world events and all government actions would only be geared towards the culling and enslavement of the population. Then it would make sense, that nations like Syria and Iran don't really fight back as much as they could.

Chester
6th October 2012, 12:37
I concur with your assessments and assertions, Christian (as well as many who you have quoted). Something else to consider is... is it possible the "world movie" is meant to distract us from something else? Stuff along the lines of what Bill brought up in his hypothesis thread? Or the current "war of the worlds" off the coast of San Francisco? Or the latest incoming comet the size of Nibiru?

From one of my points of view, I see it all as conspirotainment. From the another view I get consumed by the thoughts of what fate we leave our children. I am divided, but because within that divide, I rest in the fact I am a quantum being. I believe we all are quantum beings - all except thought form beings. In this place neither side of the divide has caved in on me (yet).

Tricky world eh? Love to All - justoneman

christian
6th October 2012, 12:47
It's true, the most important realization we could come to is who and what we really are.

But in the meantime disclosure as to real crimes and conspiracies is not mere conspirotainment, I think. It rattles people's cages and shows them, that there's more going on and trains them to look beyond. Then they can look at other more outlandish things.

Limor Wolf
6th October 2012, 13:11
The middle east is a tangle of spider web and from where we are we can not know who is involved with who.. defying godzila has its own consecuences, and therefore, may not be efficient. It is only the indviduals that can pass on the information and not countries or states. a conquest that is done from ear to mouth. This is the nature of the challenge we are facing, and it is different from anything that was ever done before. In a way, it is like a guerilla type warfare, although, it is one that values life above anything else and not one that diminish human life and freedom. mind you, even a strong army can not overcome a guerilla organization that it's motto is - "we are the creators...and by the way, we can see you.."

I already posted this video on Wade Frazier's thread, but it is very relevant to this discussion here as well :

http://vimeo.com/50531435

ghettogether
29th October 2012, 07:16
Perhaps in the same way we let scientists handle rockets and neurosurgeons handle brain surgery, "they" are letting those of us who can't get this rubik's cube of false flags to line up twist away until we're ready to publish the results. It's nearly impossible to go back to the atrophic state to commune with the burghers of the Borg, and, nearly impossible to launch oneself into a (front of the grocery chain store) type wake-up and listen people rattlin' mode, right? On the other-hand, the Burningman inoculation-turned-corruption-turned inoculation type stuff is irresistible... but, we must speak with the voice of gardens, and those take time to grow! We were given two hands if we're lucky, move at about 5mph if we're not carrying much, have to eat, drink water, and all the rest of the business, I think it's a sign, don't be taking the fact that the last thing to go through your mind is your butt when you hit the windshield too personal like. You are merely an ion for the lightning of the Tao.

bram
3rd November 2012, 07:01
What good would a video do? Would preaching to the converted stop the CIA infiltrating their societies and murdering innocent civilians?

I know we (in the west) like to watch videos and feel good about ourselves and empathize with these poor people and all, but the Democrat-republican alliance would still be in power in the USA and no amount of propaganda videos is going to change this...