Klaus Dona follow-up: The Hidden History of the Human Race

[Bill Ryan]

Hi, Folks - just posted:

http://projectavalon.net/klaus_dona.html

I first met Klaus Dona, an Austrian artifacts researcher, in July 2009. His Project Camelot interview (available here (http://projectcamelot.org/klaus_dona.html)) was extremely well received, and many people wrote asking for a follow-up. So I'm delighted to bring you more.

This video is a 45 minute slideshow, with a personal commentary from Klaus. It's data-rich, detailed, intensive, absorbing, and may contain more startling information about the history of the human race in one place than any other video you've ever seen.

The journey we embark on covers Atlantis, reptilian humanoids, the Anunnaki, ancient symbolism, ancient science, an ancient global language, and much more. It's astonishing material, which has my highest recommendation. Enjoy.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmMwo1Xzgus

[HORIZONS]

Thanks Bill!

[THE eXchanger]

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[Lucid Jia]

Sounds pretty sweet! Cheers Bill.

Namaste, Jia.

[Solphilos]

Loved every minute of the first video, and a slide-show presentation sounds all the more compelling. Thanks!

[Majorion]

The journey we embark on covers Atlantis, reptilian humanoids, the Anunnaki, ancient symbolism, ancient science, an ancient global language, and much more.
Sounds absolutely riveting Bill,

Somebody needs to donate an unlimited-length Youtube account to Mr Ryan here ASAP, this needs to be seen by everybody, much like when the Anglo Saxon Mission went viral, that was incredible, I'm sure the same would happen for this one too.

All the best,

[Poly Hedra]

Thank you very much

[TigaHawk]

i loved both interviews with this guy.

When i was young i was fascinated by history, when i actualy got a chance to study it during school something put me off it, i couldent put my finger on what.

Now looking back , i think the thing putting me off was all the coverups, and bull**** that's out there, and its the stuff like Klaus's that has me in awe/wonder.

Keep up the excelent work!

[panpravda]

Thanks Bill ... I look forward greatly to reviewing this latest material.

I was wondering if you or anyone else here had any opinion on the work of Michael Tellinger, specifically his book 'Slave Species of god'? I have read the book and there is much similarity with the work of Klaus Dona in it.

All great stuff ...

EDIT: I've just read this post of mine again and I'd be more comfortable using the words "are some significant overlaps", instead of using the words "is much similarity"

Cheers all ...

[Burke]

I was actually going to make a post asking for more of his info as I have been surfing his website posted on the Camelot video page and have found little of the names he referenced in your interview. I was just looking for how to spell some of the names he dropped so I can plug them into some searches to get some leads. After I look at the slide show I will go and try some phonetical spellings of the names he dropped in the video and ask here now that there is a thread on it.

Thanks for this!

[Muzz]

Thanks Bill

[THE eXchanger]

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[Jacqui D]

Thanks Bill, i would loved to have seen more artefacts, i think this would be my dream job, coming across such fascinating things. This guy needs some cash quick i think to put his further investigations into fruition.

[rosie]

exchanger, fascinating artifacts you have! :eek:

This year 2010 will bring many new wonderful discoveries to light. It will be as if the past wants to show its face once again, to show and teach us of what we have missed because of the lies and deception that have been played against us all these years.

Nothing can be really hid, just put aside for a while.

I am looking forward to watching this latest video this weekend.

love & light

[Oliver]

Claus`s findings are so important. Want facts? Here are the facts. Artifacts!
Thanks, Bill.

And, Susan, very nice collection you have.

Greetings

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[mike1414]

loved this interview Bill...many thanks for it...

really interesting

peace always
mike

[Burke]

OK i have been trying to get the spelling of some of the names Klaus Dona drops in his first interview

one name - the Mexican who Klaus says is very knowledgeable on the Mayan and Aztec calendars - mentioned at 1:07:15 in the first interview - phonetical spelling Davi Good (Goot)

the other one I was curious about appeared in writing in the slide show yay!

anyone have any idea?

[Bill Ryan]

OK i have been trying to get the spelling of some of the names Klaus Dona drops in his first interview

one name - the Mexican who Klaus says is very knowledgeable on the Mayan and Aztec calendars - mentioned at 1:07:15 in the first interview - phonetical spelling Davi Good (Goot)

anyone have any idea?

DAVID GOOD - unusual for a native Mexican! But it's his real name.

[Burke]

DAVID GOOD - unusual for a native Mexican! But it's his real name.

well that's what I was afraid of...didn't get much from preliminary searches for that name when I was making guesses so I thought otherwise - I suppose he just isn't in as much light (on the internet anyway) as more predominant internet 2012 researchers, which could be a good thing too!

back to the grind

thanks a ton Bill =D

edit to add...when I find the goods I will post links on this thread in case others are interested

[HORIZONS]

This was a great video, and gives us some empirical facts of how our understanding of history, that we have been taught, is really much different then any textbook dogma.

[Redtailhawk]

Well, I was really digging this video when it froze at the big cup surrounded by the 12 little cups. I also am having trouble fast forwarding it to that point again, so I have to start all over again. Any suggestions?....just went to youtube, but it does not look like it was uploaded yet.

[Burke]

Well, I was really digging this video when it froze at the big cup surrounded by the 12 little cups. I also am having trouble fast forwarding it to that point again, so I have to start all over again. Any suggestions?....just went to youtube, but it does not look like it was uploaded yet.

I had no problems with the MP4 file

hope that helps

[Redtailhawk]

I had no problems with the MP4 file

hope that helps

Okay, thanks pal...I am trying that.

[Burke]

your artifacts are fascinating Susan thx for showing them here!

have you had them studied appraised beyond origin and date? Looks like that pyramid may mount on something because it looks to be able to fit on a staff or something similar

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[cloud9]

Thank you Bill for this interview. I've been to South America mostly Colombia and there are some fascinating places there with a lot of estrange sculptures and history. One of the places I think is most interesting is Ica in Peru, it's mentioned in the interview because its closeness to the Nazca plane, there's a museum with the stones collected by Dr. Javier Cabrera, you can get a glimpse of them in youtube just searching Ica stones. They show human beings interacting with dinosaurs and the most amazing surgeries performed even organ transplants, please if you get the chance ask Mr. Dona what he know about this collection. I really don't understand why this subject it's not being investigated more, there are THOUSANDS of stones not just 2 or 3 of them. The first time I knew about ETs having a hand in our genetics was from a book I read about the stones like 30 years ago where even maps of Pleiades and other constellations, different position of continents of earth. etc. are shown.

[sunflower]

Hi cloud 9, I think there is a bit of a problem concerning the Ica stones. Not all of them may be authentic. Nevertheless, as you say they are interesting. I would have liked to have seen them when I was in the area recently... disappointing to say the least.

[whiterose]

I really enjoyed this interviiew, as the artifacts that Klaus was showing are clear evidence that cannot be refuted. The only thing the PTB can do with such evidence is ignore it, which they obviously are doing, so we need people like Klaus to inform us that such things exist. I would love someone to do facial reconstruction on some of those skulls, so we could have even a vague idea of what those beings looked like. The DNA tests also need to be done like they have with the star child skull.

[Daft Ada]

Thanks Bill mate, i really like Klaus, he has a lovely relaxed presence about him, much like yourself. Some of the facts he presents just cannot be argued with.
The "Cone head" skulls for instance, you can certainly miss shape a human skull by binding while young, but no amount of binding will considerably increase the volume. Also as Klaus points out, some of those skulls just do not have the same amount of seperate plates as a human skull.
Some of the smaller items with images which are obviously not human on them, the detail on some of them of other features is clear and concise, if they have the ability to carve those details then they have the ability to carve a human face. So the fact that the heads and faces are not shown as human must be because they were not intended to be.
Ok, they may be ritual representations of something they believed in, but then again?
The big carved "Boat" from the side, looked more like a space craft to me, with a triple engine pod at the top rear and port holes or windows down the side, and obvious landing gear down. What kind of "Boat" has four feet to stand on?
The item he said they could not identify that was shown just after the Boat, Also looked to me like a model of some kind of side view of a space craft.
Not everything has to have a "Function" We all have trinkets, pictures, and items of none function in our homes, it could simply just be someone made an image of what was seen.
It makes me very angry that main stream Science and archeology just ignor items like these that they cannot simply write off with an explaination that suits them. I would say that THE MOST IMPORTANT artifacts are those that cannot be explained and which do not fit in with the current way of thinking, it is those which indicate there is a problem with the current way of thinking, and that some re thinking needs to take place.
More and more we are seeing items recovered from depths that put them back in times where what they show should have been impossible by current thinking, so why are the mainstream institutions ignoring them and doing nothing?
I believe it is because they already know the truth and that what we are being fed is grade A BS to hide the truth.
Keep them coming Bill, Excellent work mate, and please get that donation system sorted out on your site so I can send you some money. bob.

[Jacqui D]

Thanks Susan for showing your artefacts, may i ask have you had any response with your pyramid crystal ie; scrying have you been given messages or anything else similar?

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[Lyricus]

Fantastic Bill, Cheers

[Bill Ryan]

Hi, Folks:

I've had an interesting exchange with Dr Houman Owhadi (Math Professor at CalTech), a very intelligent and delightful man. Some of you may remember he was active on the old Forum for a while.

He has a friend who is a Touareg, who pointed out that some of the symbols in the Touarag language [in Central Africa] are identical to the ancient pre-Sanskrit symbols depicted from about 8:30 on the new video (https://youtube.com/watch?v=XmMwo1Xzgus). Here is just one still from the image sequence:

http://projectavalon.net/Pre-Sanskrit_symbols.jpg

A modern symbol list (in a language now called Neo Tifinagh) is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tifinagh

http://projectavalon.net/Neo_Tifinagh.gif

The plot thickens and becomes really interesting when it turns out that (a) the last symbol on the base of the pyramid here:

http://projectavalon.net/Pre-Sanskrit_symbols_on_base_of_pyramid.jpg

...really does mean child/son in Touareg (Tifinagh). Note that Klaus said that the respected ancient-languages linguist Kurt Schildmann had translated this as "The Son of the Creator comes" - and this is right next to a depiction of the stars of Orion's Belt, all on the base of a pyramid that is the splitting image of the pyramid depicted on the American dollar bill!

http://projectavalon.net/pyramid_with_eye.jpg

And (b) ...there are established mythical connections between the Touareg and Atlantis. Klaus tells me that the researcher Marcel F. Homet (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=marcel+homet) wrote about this. Klaus and Dr Houman Owhadi are now in touch with each other... the research continues.

Cheers, Bill

[K626]

The one who is coming will come out of the desert.

[mike1414]

Extremely interesting stuff Bill...thank you very much for putting this up. After a little search it came to my attention with the help of wikipedia that - The Tuareg (also Twareg or Touareg, Amazigh: Imuhagh/Itargiyen, besides regional ethnyms) are a Berber nomadic pastoralist people. They are the principal inhabitants of the Saharan interior of North Africa. They call themselves variously Kel Tamasheq or Kel Tamajaq ("Speakers of Tamasheq"), Imuhagh, Imazaghan or Imashaghen ("the Free people"), or Kel Tagelmust, i.e., "People of the Veil".

there are no coincidences...only suprises

peace always
mike

[Carrie1971]

Today I again watched the interview then came on by here to see if anyone had touched on something that was said about Souls locked in stones which was a "Myth" however the "blue stones" were not of our earth. Have that in your thinking then remember Boriska : Indigo Boy from Mars if you recall when asked what happened to him and all the other "space ship" operators the little guy told that their souls were all locked into stones.

So that is my big post for connecting dots today. I feel lost trying to speak with my husband about anything he will sit here and watch "Star Gate" and not see that it is being put on the Tee Vee for a reason. Production by (double secret)..

Hope someone offers their thoughts on those two little tid bits of information.

[K626]

Today I again watched the interview then came on by here to see if anyone had touched on something that was said about Souls locked in stones which was a "Myth" however the "blue stones" were not of our earth. Have that in your thinking then remember Boriska : Indigo Boy from Mars if you recall when asked what happened to him and all the other "space ship" operators the little guy told that their souls were all locked into stones.

So that is my big post for connecting dots today. I feel lost trying to speak with my husband about anything he will sit here and watch "Star Gate" and not see that it is being put on the Tee Vee for a reason. Production by (double secret)..

Hope someone offers their thoughts on those two little tid bits of information.

It may well be possible to refract the soul light ( make a copy) into crystal and store it in such a way, not sure about stone unless it is highly magnetic.

[Carrie1971]

I guess at this point the hope would be that Bill could revisit the "blue stone" and maybe find out more about it. I fully support his idea to get another chance to film him more.

[Dougall]

It's hard for me to understand why no resources are available to test these artifacts. I would like to know to a certainty the origins and carbon dates on this mind blowing collection. Artifacts such as these should generate enough interest in the Scientific Community to earn Klaus a Residency in some Mega University, or other Facility.
I understand that people who work in Main Stream Science may not want to be discredited, however to study these artifacts with an open question as to their significance seems within the boundaries of current scientific etiquette.

[Daft Ada]

yeah it won't though Dougall mate, because more than one of them would prove that their current thinking is wrong, and they couldn't be having that! When you have a theory that almost explains everything why rock the boat with the truth :rolleyes:

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[jcocks]

Was watching the new clip u posted, bill....and some VERY intersting info there.... But, as always, I had to start "connecting dots", especially regarding the elongated skulls -

And we see a lot of evidence of their reverence in both ancient culture, and more importantly, our *modern-day* culture...
Two things I cna come up with at the top of my head are the head-dress of the pope (and other church officials), and even the old "bobby" hat of the british police force....

Maybe we should start a thread on what exactly is "hiding in plain sight" and see what we come up with. I think even we would be absolutely gobsmacked just how much influence the annunaki have in our culture - and how much of it is actually not hidden at all....

And one must wonder, if they were to start becoming more directly involved and visible, would we even notice?

[bashi]

I found this:


http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2013/0115z.jpg


Although the source is questionable, it fits in perfectly.

Source: http://www.theorionconspiracy.com/

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[Victoria Tintagel]

Hi Bill, thanks for this! I was lucky to have seen most of the slides, before the Camelot site closed. Klaus Donna is really a good guy, I think, very articulate and accurate in his words and explanations. Fascinating stuff about the unexplained stonework, to perfect to be true as it were. I remembered, while listening to this audio, some source of information, I think it was the book Initiation by Elisabeth Haich, on the use of the throat chakra, combined with clear intention, as a creation tool. The perfect fitting Pyramid blocks all over the planet, are believed to be formed in this manner, which is supposed to be our future manifestation and creation tool, according to several spiritual schools and indigenous knowledge (don't ask me which, though, I cannot remember what source this comes from, it's to long ago). But to give an example: the end of a prayer, the word "Amen" means "And so it is". Not a bidding but a declaration!

[Victoria Tintagel]

It's hard for me to understand why no resources are available to test these artifacts. I would like to know to a certainty the origins and carbon dates on this mind blowing collection. Artifacts such as these should generate enough interest in the Scientific Community to earn Klaus a Residency in some Mega University, or other Facility.
I understand that people who work in Main Stream Science may not want to be discredited, however to study these artifacts with an open question as to their significance seems within the boundaries of current scientific etiquette.

Hi Dougall, I am sure if you contact Donna Klaus, he will provide you with data. I believe the mainstream physics and archeology science is hard to co-operate with, as these very old artifacts point to a consequence for lot of our strict belief systems, regarding the age of civilisation and planet Earth. Mind controlling and religious parties don't like to even consider the existence of a civilisation far outstanding ours, dated so long ago. As the favorite lines of one of our members here says "It's hard to learn something in a field of which you are convinced you know all there is to learn"
I have changed it a bit, I believe, but it's close, I think. I also love to find the source of information, specially when it's mind boggling, swimming against the stream brings you to the source......:wink:

[lightblue]

Although the source is questionable, it fits in perfectly.

why do you say fits in perfectly? what fits in? fits in with what? the 13 level triangle with an eye at the top is identical to many MYSTERY representations..exept it has somthing in phoenician instead of latin at the bottom of the triangle/pyramide..

i don't get what do the elephants do/stand for either..and the cats..one has both mouth and whiskas, another on the right, has whiskas only..why would that be...then there's snakes as usual..thier heads poked in between the 3rd and the 4th of much smaller eyes on each side..maybe these are something else and not eyes.. :suspicious:

[Swanny]

I thought the elephants were to show that the people riding them were much bigger than humans???

[lightblue]

somehow i don't think so swanny..those giants are something else..almost 3m in height, and god knows what they wighed...they'd crush an avarage elephant..
i don't think the representation communicates the relative sizes..why would the cats be as big as they are? unless they symbolise something only.. :eyebrows:

[Swanny]

Ah but just because they are tall doesn't mean they are heavy, they might be really light :p

[Solphilos]

Ah but just because they are tall doesn't mean they are heavy, they might be really light :p

There may be some truth to this. Theoretically, environmental conditions and gravity could have been much different in those days, resulting in larger people, but they could have weighed relatively the same as we do today. But this may just be my fanciful imagination, lol

[lightblue]

Ah but just because they are tall doesn't mean they are heavy, they might be really light :p


light.. with that bone structure? what do you say about the cats - twice the size of the elephant on tablet?

what are the cats doing there do you think? :pout:

[Swanny]

They bought their cats along for the holiday?

[lightblue]

They bought their cats along for the holiday?

no. :nono:

these kitties are no pets on hols..they must represent something..look, they are hanging in the air/space as they claw up the pyramid's sides (one got higher than the other); their paws do not touch the ground, unlike the elephants' legs, you can see that more clearly from the one on the right ...we see the elephants walking leisurely upon the ground....
so, they must be some sort of cat like heavenly creatures ..or creatures with cat like qualities...stroppy looking...the one that got higher up has no mouth, just whiskas..the pyramid's sides look like draining gutters with many little segments. wonder what the text says..:pout:

[G.Deluca]

thank you for this interview,this man is really something,and what he says is really interesting,inspiring.
i'm particularly shocked about the maps on the stones showing all the continents

[Luke]

Makes me wonder why so much of these artefacts are affected by black light? Any theory on that?
Continents and stuff: way I see it we do not the appreciate the depth and antiquity of many civilizations on this planet before us. Our history has been sanitized to show slow linear progress (or the e-word :P)... but that is not how the stuff works.
Also would have hard time analysing artefacts from cultures built on another "science" than one currently championed.

[jeannacav]

Hi SaiCO,
I visited a rock shop last year and the owner had separated the rocks that glow when lit by uv light.
He let me use his uv flashlight for a while, then he told me that really a lot more rocks will glow than he even had separated like that, and he showed me some more.

My thought when I saw those glowing artifacts was how beautiful that effect was.
I thought about art and ancient artists.

What it DOES mean is that they had black light / uv light and understood its use, which is cool and interesting.

Wasn't that slideshow terrific?
I love that Bill has made this second interview. I hope there might be more.

thank you,

jeanna

[Baelsfire]

Great presentation Bill!

I think this kind of material is perfect for an introduction into the subject of the Earth-based Humans' collective amnesia. The objects he has shown are but a taster, yes ;)

However, Im having some difficulty downloading the first interview with Klaus, the download keeps getting cut off. Infact this happens with a lot of the ProjectCamelot.org downloads. I hope its just server problems and not some third party interference!.

[Cyaneyed]

Did love this interview, lots of interesting artefacts (there are some good ones on his site as well, which I checked out afterwards).

The whole question of dating this stuff just reminds me of the Great Pyramid. The greatest remaining structure from Ancient History, and the authorities will never let the red ochre paint that supposedly is the only time Khufu is named inside/relative to the pyramid be tested, in case it ruins their orthodox history (most outside the orthodox Egyptology community believe it was forged by Vyse, and if the orthodox were so sure it wasn't they'd surely have sanctioned it a long time ago).

[Snowbird]

After viewing this fabulous slide presentation, I have decided that I am no longer shocked by ancient history.

I believe! :nod:

[Humboldt]

I loved the Klaus Dona collection - just any ONE of those finds those a wrench in the story of history weve all been fed - kudos Bill

[jaybee]

Makes me wonder why so much of these artefacts are affected by black light? Any theory on that?
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I had to google what 'black light' is !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_light

Maybe it's to do with what they used to do the engraving? Don't know. Just a thought.

Re. the presentation....nice one Bill...thanks.

[Baelsfire]

I'm going out on a limb here in speculation, but it is perfectly feasible that a species of life on a planet orbiting a sun that emits light in the blue/purple bandwidth would see differently than, for instance, Humans orbiting a sun that emits light in the yellow/green bandwidth. The speculation being that there were lifeforms so adapted who came to be active on this planet, :p .

[Generous]

The black light gives us humans the ability to view these items, maybe different species were (are) able to view them with their eyes without the need of a black light, that's what i understood from it. I'm thinking they were made by some other creatures other then ourselves. What do you guys think. Why would primitive human make that with inlays of constellations his never been to?

[Bill Ryan]

I know everyone is very busy and frankly so am I, but I sent Bill and e-mail directly earlier this week (not that I expect an immediate response) and I tried to post a general question to members under the Klaus Dona section of Bill's threads concerning the "luddite" metallic material some of the objects Dona referred to and showed in his slide show on the 13th. I am simply up against a brick wall trying to research this material any further, folks. I had hoped someone could help me, for example if I misspelled or misheard the word ("ludite," "leudite," "luddite" etc.) - I cannot find ANY materials by that name. For some reason it appears that in his role as moderator for his thread, Bill didn't allow my question to be posted - however maybe he didn't get my post or e-mail. Anyway, if anyone can help me with more information about this material, I would be most appreciative. I just can't find anything on the web about the stuff and I am very very interested in it for several reasons. Thanks! Ahkenaten.

Hi there - it's LYDITE (http://www.mindat.org/min-9177.html), also known as BASANITE. Klaus had trouble pronouncing the word in English. I really (seriously!) should have added a caption on the video. A lot of people have asked that question.

I certainly never prevented you from posting your question on this thread. (There have been many server problems recently, which has been a major inconvenience to members, mods and myself. I can only think that was the reason.) Regarding e-mails. I've been away since Tuesday, with no e-mail access - see my announcement on recent activity which I'll post this morning.

Very best wishes to all, Bill

[bosr]

Interesting take on the subject: Found this on Henry Makaw's site... http://www.henrymakow.com/cartier_mccloud.html


Engineered Earthquakes & Hoaxed 'Discoveries'




The first step in the NASA Blue Beam Project concerns the breakdown [re-evaluation] of all archaeological knowledge. It deals with the set-up, with artificially created earthquakes at certain precise locations on the planet, of supposedly new discoveries which will finally explain to all people the "error" of all fundamental religious doctrines. The falsification of this information will be used to make all nations believe that their religious doctrines have been misunderstood for centuries and misinterpreted. Psychological preparations for that first step have already been implemented with the film, '2001: A Space Odyssey;' the StarTrek series, and 'Independence Day;' all of which deal with invasions from space and the coming together of all nations to repel the invaders. The last films, 'Jurrassic Park,' deals with the theories of evolution, and claim God's words are lies. http://i.am/jah/evolut.htm

Hoaxed "Discoveries'



What is important to understand in the first step is that those earthquakes will hit at different parts of the world where scientific and archaeological teachings have indicated that arcane mysteries have been buried. By those types of earthquakes, it will be possible for scientists to rediscover those arcane mysteries which will be used to discredit all fundamental religious doctrines. This is the first preparation for the plan for humanity because what they want to do is destroy the beliefs of all Christians and Muslims on the planet. To do that, they need some false 'proof' from the far past that will prove to all nations that their religions have all been misinterpreted and misunderstood.

[Jake]

The implications are staggering. A world civilization over 17 to 18 thousand years ago? I guess if I was a part of the failing Ruling class of today, I would keep this stuff as much of a secret as I could too. Its not just that there WAS an ancient civilization, but it seems there spirituality was very much alive worldwide, back then!!! That is awesome! OUR world civilization is in chaos. Perhaps the old world, knowing of the earth changes, were constructing large stone sights so that noone would ever have to doubt where we came from. I wonder how many more artifacts like these have been confiscated or destroyed by the Religions and Governments over the years.

[Alifun]

Such a great teaching video. I was honestly shocked especially with pyramid with constellation. Shared this video with lots of people.
Good health to you Dr Klaus Dona! :)

[iceni tribe]

hi bill

when a artifact is first discovered , does it have to be catagorized , by that i mean details of who found it , where it was found and a discription of what was found.
ive just shown this slide show to some friends and these are the questions that have been asked.

cheers

[leavesoftrees]

A new Klaus Dona interview on Red Ice Creations

Klaus Dona - Unsolved Mysteries, Giants & Out of Place Artifacts
January 11, 2011

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/01/RIR-110111.php

[Janos]

Thank you very much for the link. I hadn't heard this new interview yet, but I have followed very closely with Klaus' other interviews, and they were very interesting to say the least.

[anikohu]

I Love this interview. This is one of the best in every way!- my favorite! Cheers;)

[Icecold]

Bill that was fantastic.

Incidentally, the cobra head, on its back side had 33 red lines with 7 other lines. 33 red lines? What does that remind you of?

[slipknotted]

this was amazing stuff that makes you drop your jaw !

[Norsec]

Thank you for your work Bill.
Never heard about Klaus Dona.
His work is so fantastic... i have to rethink my position about the human race...

[mrmalco]

Thanks Bill this is excellent. Can you let me know a contact for Klaus Dona - I'm completing a book on symbolism, scheduled for the autumn lists, and wish to ask permission to show a couple of images for which he (and anyone else necessary) will be fully acknowledged.
I think the pre-pre-history of humanity - in whatever form 'humanity' existed - has a 'break-open' potential for waking people up.
Yesterday morning I showed this slide show to an 80+ friend - it was a 'hole in one'; she was amazed, fascinated, wanted to know what else there was to know and was tremendously invigorated simply by the information ... etc.
I lecture to the local University of the Third Age on Symbolism and will definitely point them towards Klaus Dona's, and associate's, work. Looking forward to fostering a loca group of radical oldies!
Thanks again.

[learninglight]

WOW!!! Loved it Bill thank you so much. Was blown away when the part about the 'Genetic Disc' came on. Blows Darwins Theory for Evolution straight out the window at last, and my reasoning for saying this is there is not one reference to a monkey. :cool:

[Revenge24]

Thanks for this Bill, it's very interesting. I watched both of these interviews and they were great.

However, what baffles me is, why is this information being covered up? Can they simply not be bothered to re-write most of our history? Our past is incredibly important, so why are we not allowed to know the truth of it? Why are we taught a totally different kind of history, to what is the actual truth? This makes no sense to me, as I cannot see the benefit in witholding this information about our planet's history. It benefits no one.

[hao]

I came across “The Hidden History of the Human Race" by accident

Among the many interesting things the program showed, I can't stop noticing the similarities between certain ancient Ecuadorian artifacts and that of the Qijia culture from China

The Ecuadorian figurines have distinctive large round eyes and a distinct mouth
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http://i51.tinypic.com/bdp9bd.jpg

This one, besides the distinctive large round eyed figures, the shape of this artifact, a round object with a round hole in the centre very much resembles the ancient Chinese jade bi object, which was used for the worship of the heaven since ancient Chinese believed in a "round" heaven.
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An ancient Chinese Jade bi
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The figurines from the Qijia culture bear uncanny similarities to the ancient Ecuadorian figures shown above
http://i54.tinypic.com/2ememb9.jpg

A pair of figures from Qijia culture is very reminiscent of the figures on the round object from Ecuador, even the alike posture.
Chinese one
http://i52.tinypic.com/2cmww0y.jpg
Ecuadorian one
http://i52.tinypic.com/2lo0unp.jpg

I hope Klaus Dona would see this, he deserves the attention.

[RedeZra]

However, what baffles me is, why is this information being covered up?

It makes perfect sense ; )

the Elite has fabricated the whole human story - our age and origin - so artifacts that challenge TPTB story must be suppressed - else they might loose control of our minds

If they loose control of our minds - then it's Game Over !

[the_flyingboy]

thank you Bill for this video i've watched the interview you had with Klaus and i can say that the word extraordinary is an understatement...these things should come to light and have then as history lessons at school after all school is about learning!!

[Gustav]

I saw the presentation a few days ago and I keep being surprised how little I know, despite reading a lot of books and watching countless documentaries in the past years. Great experience to watch and I will follow the work of Klaus in the future. So a thank you is in order I believe.

What I am wondering about, and I have not seen it mention yet in the posts in this thread, are two things:

1. The stone map that shows the world and the disappeared continents, is it complety manufactured to make the line run through the right places on the map or is it just natural stone that has been selected to carve it on? As far as I remember it is not mentioned in this presentation or the one preceding this.
2. The giant figure in africa that is talked about, would anyone be able tell me more about that? I am completely intrigued by that one.

[ArjunaArcana]

One of the most interesting parts are the figurines that look like reptilian men or lizard like men. I do not know much about this reptilian stuff but who knows, who cant say for sure that just as we evolved from an ape like creature, could also these beings have evolved from a sauroid like species?.....Maybe.

[Straydog]

From a “distance” about reptilians.

Maybe, just maybe these reptilian humanoids is a myth?
People in agent times talked about “reptilian gods”, so I’m just thinking maybe that’s because their “gods” mastered the “serpent technology”? Ore in other words was able to manipulate the human DNA?
I believe it was Enki who said “their fashioning essence is like two entwined serpents, akin to ours”. He said this when the Anunaki discussed if they should create a new working race for them selves by mixing the DNA from the primate they found on earth with their own DNA . . .

Again, just a thought . . .

[write4change]

AA,

I don't remember the title etc. but I saw a youtube presentation with some scientific specialist going back to the velopicepters (?sp) the fast mean little ones in Jurassic. Looking at their bodies and brains and adding 40,000 years and coming up with a reptile type humanoid. Not all that terribly different or all that ugly. And beauty is to some extent conditioning.

Their conclusions was had not the dinosaurs been destroyed by a major event, they would have developed thru this process. Since we now know they were both herd animals to some degree and protective and nurturing of their young unlike frogs, snakes, and lizards today, they were at least as developed as our beginning mammal ancestors.

One of my favorite story was the STNG, where Picard finds ancient DNA and there is a huge search like an ancient treasure to discover this fact first. The Klingons are on it, The Cardassians, The Humans, and the Frengi, are all racing thru their clues. They all arrive at this far out and uninhabited planet and their presence triggers a hologram which welcomes them all as their children. They learn the same DNA was planted on all their planets but was to evolve to the environment. How the story ended was how disgusted everyone was to discover they were all related by a common humanoid ancestor. LOL

[RedeZra]

I believe it was Enki who said “their fashioning essence is like two entwined serpents, akin to ours”. He said this when the Anunaki discussed if they should create a new working race for them selves by mixing the DNA from the primate they found on earth with their own DNA . . .


According to the antediluvian prophet Enoch all kinds of knowledge were imparted by the ben Elohim (sons of God) to preflood humanity - also genetic engineering and the amalgamation of human and animal into freaks of nature - human body with animal head and animal body with human head etc

[Lord Sidious]

I saw the presentation a few days ago and I keep being surprised how little I know, despite reading a lot of books and watching countless documentaries in the past years.

Gustav my friend, you know more than most and you don't even realise it.
It is only when we realise we know nothing that we can truly learn.

[Gustav]

I saw the presentation a few days ago and I keep being surprised how little I know, despite reading a lot of books and watching countless documentaries in the past years.

Gustav my friend, you know more than most and you don't even realise it.
It is only when we realise we know nothing that we can truly learn.

A bit late, but thank you Sidious.

[Gwen]

According to legend, Enki and his brother Enlil argued about the DNA process and as Enki was the geneticist, to put two fingers up at Enlil he put his own DNA into the mix - therefore we all have enormous powers and the capabilities to be 'as Gods'. Pity they don't teach that in school!

[Gwen]

AA,

I don't remember the title etc. but I saw a youtube presentation with some scientific specialist going back to the velopicepters (?sp) the fast mean little ones in Jurassic. Looking at their bodies and brains and adding 40,000 years and coming up with a reptile type humanoid. Not all that terribly different or all that ugly. And beauty is to some extent conditioning.

Their conclusions was had not the dinosaurs been destroyed by a major event, they would have developed thru this process. Since we now know they were both herd animals to some degree and protective and nurturing of their young unlike frogs, snakes, and lizards today, they were at least as developed as our beginning mammal ancestors.

One of my favorite story was the STNG, where Picard finds ancient DNA and there is a huge search like an ancient treasure to discover this fact first. The Klingons are on it, The Cardassians, The Humans, and the Frengi, are all racing thru their clues. They all arrive at this far out and uninhabited planet and their presence triggers a hologram which welcomes them all as their children. They learn the same DNA was planted on all their planets but was to evolve to the environment. How the story ended was how disgusted everyone was to discover they were all related by a common humanoid ancestor. LOL

Thing is though, if you look at OOParts, we appear to have been here well before the dinosaurs.

[Lifebringer]

Checking it out now.

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Try the Urantia Book. Urantia.org.
You can read it online also. Took me three months and it gave the full history of Jesus life on the planet before ascension.
Only one I haven't read, are those non-translatable.
Good reading.

[Lifebringer]

Urantia says there are seven worlds of JESUS, not just this one. This is the one he incarnated on that were in his image/will.
WE are cratures of will and crativity able to decisively change things when we put God's will first before doing so. Man on the material world go the name Jesus through the beings, as well as John the Baptist.
On other worlds where he incarnated not in his image, whatever do they call him other than the one and only God. This world was his last creation world to be by the Father in the Kingdom of Havona, so I imagine as he did creations on other worlds, that he added the best until the last or not so snidley, the successes of his beginnings of good?
Something like that. A graduation of sorts to move up beside the Father. All the Sons of God make creation worlds, its the Lucifer rebellion of challenge of order, that has only happened three times in the beginning.
There is some really deep intelligent stuff in the book of Urantia, that is called the blue book found in the pyramids in 1955. Up until this year, all the literature posted was by donation or gift, but after people started reading it, and capitialism got a hold of it, then some sites ask or charge for the book, which is against it's intent.
So go to the valid site, that promotes knowledge and not profit. Truth is the light, this book is supposed to be written by the Heavenly host and associates that actually did the deed by his will.

Like I said it's deep.

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And the Lemur. Look at their apendages.

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The Annunaki bought the sheep to the planet.

[Lifebringer]

Yep, Endo and Fonda time.
Before Adam and Eve.

[Brakeman]

Aren't the tiny radiolarite surgical tools fascinating?

Radiolarite stone fragments are incredibly brittle, yet very hard.

The iron of the Paleolithic.

A long lasting choice for a tool or weapon tip that required expertise and master craftsmanship to design it.

This would be logical for a forgotten society to use for surgical equipment.

Especially considering the ergonomic design used by the craftsmen of these tools.

Radiolarite is known also for not being "sharp, but not too sharp" due to it's "brittle yet strong" design.

This would be perfect for the birthing tools Mr. Dona spoke of.

[Brakeman]

Radiolarite is sometimes called "lydite" in the German language.

My apologies for not making that bridge.

[Brakeman]

And the written language found on the small tablets and base of the pyramid figure.

You can date a writing on its pragmatism.

You can assess a writing's geographical reach on its reliance upon colloquial symbolism.

Or lack thereof.

For the latter and the former.

;)

Startling implications, if you feel societal evolution has been a slow promenade from the caves.

[Brakeman]

The writing, though.

:rolleyes:

[Brakeman]

Really, the writing, though.

:rolleyes:

[URIKORN]

IT is a bit weird to thank a post written at 2010, and now it is 2015, but why not.
I am new on Avalon but not new to stuff i could find on youtube.
Klaus Dona is one of my favourite guys. (there are many, to my good surprise !)
From time to time i turn back to one of his appearances, and contemplate the content. (i took such a view just 2 days ago)
I try, as well' to interest my childrens, and others.

I like to express gratitude to people who enrich me so i take this opportunity to thank you Bill
for bringing Klaus Dona into my life

[Billy]

Ancient Secret Discoveries presets the Klaus Dona series.

1. When mining gold in an Ecuadorian jungle, what they found was totally out of place.

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2. Columbian out of place artifacts.

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3. Satellite reveals previously unknown pyramids.

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4. Giants, the cities they built and most importantly, crystal skulls.

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[snow]

All those videos are unavailable, do you have alternative links? Very curious to watch.

[Bill Ryan]

All those videos are unavailable, do you have alternative links? Very curious to watch.Many thanks, and this one I think is the very best. :thumbsup:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmMwo1Xzgus

[Jamie]

All those videos are unavailable, do you have alternative links? Very curious to watch.Many thanks, and this one I think is the very best. :thumbsup:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmMwo1Xzgus

Love the Klaus Dona videos. My favourite videos from the past.



All those videos are unavailable, do you have alternative links? Very curious to watch.
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Having gone back to have a look, there is definitely one missing.
I'm pretty sure it was called - 'Lost Pyramids & Other Hidden Ancient Artifacts' from when he was giving a presentation on stage.


In fact there used to be 3 videos from Klaus Dona on Project CAMALOT/Avalon..

1 - Lost Pyramids & Other Hidden Ancient Artifacts
2 - Spiritual Archaeologist
3 - The video mentioned by BR above.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

A truly amazing presentation. I hadn't seen it before, don't know how I missed it. I also don't know how so many artefacts shown here are completely unknown to me. Where are they today and why is no one else discussing them?

I think the one that wowed me the most is the petroglyph of the ancient world map (6mins in). I'm utterly astonished by it. If I have seen it before, I can't remember it. Where has this been hiding!?

There is absolutely no doubt what this represents.

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There's no way 'primitive' man reckoned geography and map-making on an intercontinental scale. It wasn't until the sea-voyages of the 15th/16th century that was possible. If this discovery is indeed genuine, it proves that a sophisticated antediluvian culture really existed (most of us don't need convincing), and that Atlantis was real.

Because there it is! and exactly where Plato said it was, and much later Cayce - exactly where it was mid-Atlantic.

Judging by it's size, I'd guess this was the island of Poseidia, last surviving vestige of the Atlantean continent (~28,000 -12,000 y.o). It also provides the artefact with an approximate date.

Absolutely wild!