If you had cancer, what would you do?

[Midnight]

My very crappy new doctor saw an anomalous spot on a bone just above my hip (on a bone scan image) and said it might be a tumour or it might be a cyst.

So why do I call him a crappy doctor? Two days ago I returned to his office as requested to hear the results of an xray of the hip he requested. He said the local dysfunctional hospital often takes 3 weeks to get the xrays to him. But then why did he say to see him in 7 to 10 days? And when I talked to him about the tumour or cyst scenario he said he told me at least 5 times that it was highly unlikely to be a tumour. One chance in twenty was what he said. But he never said any such thing on my previous visit. My former family doctor retired 2 years ago. He was extremely competent. Since then I have only interacted with mediocre doctors.

But for 10 days I thought I might have cancer. Scary thought. And when I researched chemotherapy and radiation I kept thinking it was a scam by big pharmacy, and that these treatments are just as likely to kill you as cancer.

Am I wrong?

[ghostrider]

My wife is cancer survivor, you can beat it, the most important thing is your thinking . You must remain optimistic my friend. That is the key. Stay positive. You may not even have cancer. The body heals when it's sleeps, watch your diet and get plenty of good sleep. You command your body, you cant tell it , tonight while I sleep I want you guys to put in some overtime. Give me a tune-up. Imagine yourself healthy, picture yourself healthy, focus on that and stay positive no matter what , let them check you again in 14 days . Saalome. I'm gonna send some energy your way tonight .

[Bright Garlick]

I would feel everything Midnight. I am healing from cancer and I have discovered no cure except feeling everything - feel what it is to be healed.

:p

[markpierre]

You're not wrong.

Just a quick search turned up 4,000,000 plus pages of bad news.

http://www.cancertutor.com/ChemoSpill/deathbydoctoring1.htm (11 interesting pages)

http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james189.htm

But I wouldn't spend much time with the bad news. Research the Avalon archives and you'll find a lot of good news.

“Most cancer patients in this country die of chemotherapy."
Allen Levin, MD UCSF The Healing of Cancer, Marcus Books, 1990

I would presume that most doctors would prefer that you survive. The companies that develop and sell those treatments don't give a rat's a$$. You are a market share.
What conventional medicine knows about health and healing is negligible. What they know about attacking and masking symptoms is impressive.
It certainly didn't used to be that way. It'd be interesting to see exactly when and where and how that happened.

[john.d]

There are lots of cancer cures . Gerson diet , fasting , mms etc . I used bicarb and maple syrup with my father which worked a treat . I don't even have a doctor anymore as I have totally lost faith in them . It seems they are just pharmaceutical sales men these days .

[Houman]

Dr Schulze incurables program
https://herbdocblog.com/book-view/2/

[ROMANWKT]

Hi Midnight

Whats your money situation?

[ROMANWKT]

I wrote this about 6 years ago when I was heavily involved, as I found out my sister had ovarian cancer, which was cured, and there are no signs of cancer in her blood to this day

Cure Autoimmune disorders


THIS IS AN IMPORTANT MEDICAL BREAKTHROUGH IT’S YOUR RIGHT TO KNOW.


For the last 100 years scientists have been aware that cells need to communicate and identify
themselves - the only problem was they didn't know what mechanisms were used. Many top
scientists have spent years trying to find out how things worked and most 'experts' believed that
proteins were the principal mechanism.

As with most of the important discoveries they happened by chance. In 1981 a scientist
working for a pharmaceutical (drug) company made a breakthrough that in the following 15
years would change the way scientists all over the world looked at this whole area of cellular
identification. Every cell in every plant and animal communicates/identifies itself by a very
special code made up of simple biologically active sugars (monosaccharides). He inadvertently
found how the body heals itself, and that was by information being passed from the cells to the
genes, then to your dna.

This field of science has already been the subject of at least 4 Nobel prizes and we anticipate
many more in the years to come. These awards do not occur when the breakthrough is made but
often 20 or 30 years later. So don't expect to hear about this in the news now - if you decide to
join us and work with us you will be at the start of a new chapter in biochemistry and in
particular the early stages of the turn away from pharmaceutical drugs and back to natural but
scientifically proven compounds.

THE STORY

When this scientist report was published, the whole pharmaceutical world got very excited and
started a worldwide race. What excited them was not so much how the body heals itself, but by
what means did the cell talk to the genes, and then talk with the dna?

The race was on and nobody was getting the answers, until one small company saw for the first
time a single human cell close up through an electron microscope in 1994. This was a new
device, and the image was electronic, they could see it by spraying the human cell with
extremely fine gold dust.

Something did not look right as they were looking at the electronic picture. They knew that the
body is made up of 75% water and the rest bone. They thought the cells would look like tiny
balloons full of fluid, but what they saw they did not recognise.

After close study they could only describe the cell looking like a round sweet that a child
dropped on the carpet that was found a week later all trodden in, then you would pull it out, and
it looks like a hairy ball.

After studying this hairy ball, they were amazed that these hairs looked like molecules, and
after further study the conclusion was that they were molecules, but different from each other,
and so after further study, they had now recognised that there were 8 different type of
molecules.
A year later a second amazing find was baffling the small company. They found that those 8
molecules were sugar, which totally knocked them sideways as we are always told through the
Medical Institutions that the body only uses sugar for energy, and so does all of life in nature.

There are over 200 known sugars in nature, but these 8 were different as they were non-
glycaemic ( would not affect a diabetic ) and seemed to be used by the cells only. It dawned on
them that these sugar molecules, known as mono-saccharides (simple sugars) must be used by
the cell for communicating.

It took some time, but one by one they started to identify these sugars by their proper names,
and from where these sugars were derived from.
Here are their names,

GALACTOSE
GLUCOSE
FUCOSE
MANNOSE
XYLOSE
N-NEURAMINIC-ACID
N-ACETYL-GLUCOSAMINE
N-ACETYL-GALACTOSAMINE

SO HERE IS A MEDICAL BREAKTHROUGH

IF THE DNA IS THE KEY TO LIFE AND A
BLUEPRINT OF WHO YOU ARE...

THEN THE OPERATING PROGRAM OF THE HUMAN BODY HAD JUST BEEN
FOUND.

What does that mean? It means that by using these 8 sugars for communicating, a damaged cell
would pass information to your genes and then to your blueprint of who you are - the DNA.
The instruction would be passed to have that cell replaced according to your blueprint.

The whole of the alphabet can be tapped by the Morse code by dots and dashes and the
software operation of a computer is run by a binary language of on's and off's, so with different
combination of these 8 sugars, the instruction runs into millions of bits of information that
keeps the body in check with the blueprint, the DNA..

They found that all communicating was done by touch, and that all the messages were
transmitted between the cells by these sugars.

Well what other purpose would that have?

HOW ON EARTH CAN YOU CARRY A CANCER FOR 10 TO 15 YEARS AND YOUR
BODY KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT IT, YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT
AND WHEN IT SHOWS UP, ITS 90% THERE AND YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR YOUR
LIFE?
HOW COME THE BODY DID NOT KNOW OR DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?
BECAUSE YOUR CELLS ARE NOT COMMUNICATING

Are you beginning to see the importance of this breakthrough?

They found that when you are communicating properly, your immune system is strong and
high, but when your cellular communication was poor, your immune system is low, and left
you in a dangerous and open position. Your body is easily attacked and vulnerable from outside
sources and from internal mismanagement.

If you went down to the sewer where there is human waste, you will find that when the waste is
separated, the residue left behind is a mass of vitamins that people have taken. These were
unsuccessfully absorbed into the body, some possibly because of low purity, but mostly they
were rejected by the body. The body will not accept what it does not recognise, your
communication is poor. You can make bricks and build a wall from the matter that people
bodies have rejected in that sewer.

Women suffering from osteoporosis have a problem with the absorption of calcium. Again the
body will reject what it does not recognise, no matter how much calcium one takes. Billions of
pounds are wasted by people, believing that they are benefiting from vitamins. The answer
would be yes they are, but only if they are communicating, and we now know for a fact that
they are not.

An average person would produce between 100 to 200 billion cells each day from their factory,
the hips, and the same amount of dead cells are removed by the body daily when you go to the
toilet.

Imagine producing billions upon billions of cells weekly with poor communication, your
immune system becomes weaker and weaker. After months and years of this, a weakness
somewhere in your body starts to produce an out of control growth of cells that have no
instructions, and they just keep on growing, you have a cancer.

The second biggest destroyer is your immune system. You had a virus, or an infection, you had
enough communication to activate your antibodies. Your immune system seems to be working,
after a few days you feel fine, and all is in order, or is it? Have the antibodies been switched off,
they were switched on, are they off?

As time goes on your un-switched antibodies go on a rampage and start to attack your body, it
starts to attack itself. They start to attack your joints, and that's called arthritis. They start to
dissolve the fatty lining on the cells of your nervous system, that's multiple sclerosis or MS for
short. They start attacking your pancreas, that's called diabetes. There are over 80 known forms
of auto-immune disorder, its destroying lives everywhere, from the very young to the old.

ARE YOU ON, OR ARE YOU OFF?

THE ONLY THING THAT KNOWS IF YOU ARE ON OR OFF IS YOUR BODY.
ARE YOU COMMUNICATING? IF YOU ARE, THEN YOU ARE OFF.
IF YOU ARE NOT COMMUNICATING PROPERLY, THEN YOU ARE STILL ON.
We now know that it takes 8 sugars to establish cell to cell communication. We now know that
the combination of 8 sugars leads to millions of possible instructions. So how do we know
which 1 of the 8 in the on or off? The answer to this is simple, nobody knows.
So why do people shove off the counter so called medicines from a chemist down their throats
being told that it will make them better, when that could be turning things ON instead of OFF?
Only by making sure that you are getting 8 of these essential sugars will you know that you are
in check or balance, only your body knows, and only when it is communicating properly.

What happens when............

YOU ARE ON WHEN YOU SHOULD BE OFF.
OR OFF WHEN YOU SHOULD BE ON

Here's a list of what's coming.

All of these conditions listed below are either manifestations of
* Incorrect communication
* Symptoms of impaired communication
* or cause incorrect communication

ADD/ADHD
Dust
Yeast
Athletic Performance
Addiction
Environmental
Alzheimer's
Quick Muscle Recovery
Adrenal Gland Failure
Food
Als-Lou Gehrigs Disease
Autism
Aging
Grass
Angina
Auto Immune Disorders
AIDS/HIV
Pollen
Anxiety
Back
Allergies
Hay Fever
Arthritis
Bacterial Infection
Animals
Seasonal
Asthma
Bi-Polar Disorder
Bladder
Body
Bones
Bone Density
Brain-Function Disorder
Breasts
Bronchitis
Bulimia
Cancer
Candida Infection
Carpal Tunnel
Cellular Death
Cerebral Palsy
Chemical Hypersensitivity
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS)
Crohn's Disease
Cystic Fibrosis
Dental Health
Depression
Degenerative Disease
Degenerative Discs
Diabetes
Down Syndrome
Earaches
Eating Disorders
Energy
Epilepsy
Fatigue
Fibroids
Fibromyalgia
Foot conditions
Gestational Diabetes
Genetic Disorders
Glaucoma
Glomerulonephrtis
Grand Mal Seizures
Gulf War Syndrome
Heart Disease
Hepatitis B & C
Herpes/Cold Sores
High Blood Pressure
High Cholesterol
Hives
Hormonal Imbalance
Hypoadrenalism
Hypoglycaemia
Hysterectomy
Immune System
Infections
Insomnia
Injuries
Lactose Intolerance
Leukaemia
Lupus
Lyme Disease
Macular Degeneration
Manic Depression
Marfan's Dyndrome
Menopause
Metabolic Disorder
Metastatic-Breast Cancer
Multiple Sclerosis (MS)
Muscular Dystrophy (FSH)
Neurological Disorders
Obesity
Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder
Osteoarthritis
Oral Thrush
Pain
Parkinson's Disease
Pericarditis (Fluid on the Heart)
Peripheral Neuropathy
PMS
Post Polio Fatigue
Pemphigus Vulgaris
Pneumonia
Poor Circulation
Prostate Cancer
Raynauds Syndrome
Bladder Infections
Arthritis
Schizophrenia
Sinus Infection
Spinal Cancer
Strep Throat
Stroke
Suppressed Immune System
Tennis Elbow
Transient Ischemic Attack (TIA)
Tourette's Syndrome
Tuberculosis
Ulcers
Vertigo
Viruses
Vasculitis


AND THAT'S STILL NOT ALL OF THE CONDITIONS, THERE ARE MORE.

These sugars are sugar proteins, and are now known worldwide as GLYCO NUTRIENTS.

Scientists found that your cells, genes, and dna are all coated with these sugars, and that these
sugars came from your fruit and vegetables. They are nutritional (i.e. FOOD).

So what does this mean? It means that your, primary food is fruit and vegetables fruit and
vegetables, fruit and vegetables. Yes we need meat and fish for easy proteins and amino acids,
but its fruit and vegetables, fruit and vegetables, fruit and vegetables..........

Then comes another amazing blow. When they checked the fruit and vegetables for the content
of these sugars, they found only 2 sugars in appreciable amounts; the other 6 sugars were
almost non-existent.

The 2 main sugars available in reasonable amounts were Glucose, which makes fruit taste
sweet, a natural sugar in all things and Galactose. Galactose principally comes from milk and
dairy produce. However, about 50% of people are lactose intolerant because they are missing
the enzyme lactase. So half the population only gets 1 of the 8 vital sugars in any quantity.

There is strong evidence to suggest that as little as 50 years ago our diets were significantly
different and there is every reason to believe that we were getting 4 or 5 out of the 8 vital sugars
in reasonable amounts in our diets. That meant that the missing ones could be converted from
the ones we had.

The reason why people eat well and are still producing bodily disorders is that,

WE HARVEST GREEN UNRIPE FRUIT AND VEGETABLES.
WE DID THIS, WE CREATED THE PROBLEM.

Harvesting fruit and vegetables before they are ripe is a major problem because it's only in the
last few days of the ripening process that the plant puts the real nutrients into the fruit or
vegetable.

You go to the supermarket and you buy fruit and vegetables which often have been harvested
green for their journey half-way around the world, and then left lying in a box for two weeks so
as to 'ripen'. They are then brought out to the store and "here you are madam - fresh fruit and
vegetables."

THIS STUFF IS NUTRITIONALLY empty.

AND SO IS THE ORGANIC STUFF, BECAUSE THEY DO THE SAME THING, AND IT'S
ONLY Marginally BETTER THEN THE NON-ORGANIC STUFF, OTHER THAN ITS
SUPPOSED TO BE LESS TOXIC.

They are all Green Harvested for exporting and importing and this has created major medical
problems for peoples' health worldwide.
Go back 40 to 50 years - did you ever hear people suffer from such horrendous diseases as they
do now?
Was cancer as rife as it is today? The answer is NO.

Was the number of children being diagnosed as obese and with diabetes approaching epidemic
proportions? The answer is NO.

Were many children suffering from ADD, ADHD, Dyspraxia and Autism? The answer is NO.

So what was different? Well the answer to that is simple - all your food was grown locally and
harvested ripe for people to buy and eat, and you only got what was in season.

NOW GO OUT THERE, WHEREVER THAT IS, AND FIND ME SOME FRESH, RIPE,
FRUIT AND VEGETABLES THAT WERE PICKED A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO?

You have to think about it - has our health improved with modern times?

The very people that we have trusted for the last 70 years with our health are now the very ones
that are behaving like ostriches. The medical profession have been so pressured into the
pharmaceutical way of thinking that they have ignored and dismissed the very importance of
good nutrition.

Did you know that the Government knows about this? Did they tell the people? WHY NOT?

Did you know that the NHS knows about this? Have they told you? WHY NOT?

Do you know that the BMA and General Medical Council were aware of this breakthrough in
1999 and yet have done nothing positive with it? WHY NOT?

Have your doctors told you about this? WHY NOT?

Have you read in the papers about this fantastic breakthrough? WHY NOT?

It all stinks to high heaven with vested interest. MONEY.

Did you know that the pharmaceutical companies invest billions all around the world and here
in England? If the pharmaceutical companies took away their financial support from medical
schools then they would cease to exist almost overnight.

They train doctors and nurses on how to use their products which keeps our caring and sharing
government from paying for properly trained people who would know about this major
breakthrough. They are kept dumb by the large pharmaceutical companies because they have
no rights to this find, so there is no profit in it for them, and they would rather see you dead
than tell you about it.

It is known that they are working on a synthetic form of these sugars and when they do manage
this THE WHOLE WORLD WILL KNOW. Meantime people are dying, nobody knows,
nobody tells.
WHAT A WORLD WE LIVE IN.

The whole of human races cells will divide 50 to 52 times after which your regeneration
process stops and you will slowly disintegrate and die.

THIS REGENERATION PROCESS CAN TAKE YOUR LIFE TO OVER 100 YEARS IF
YOU TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. You can shorten your life span by not taking care of
yourself which causes the division process to speed up to sustain life and you age and die
prematurely.

You can only heal while you are generating new cells, and as you get older the process slows
down, and healing takes longer. With children and teenagers the healing process is very fast if
they are healthy and communicating.

Your blood will be replaced approximately every 3 months, which means that the healing
process is faster the fresher the blood, if you are communicating well. Most of your skin cells
will regenerate within 28 days, deeper muscle tissues take about 3 months.

Most of your organ's cell replacement take 4 to 5 years, and your bones can take 7 years for the
cells to replace, and up to 9 years for your long bones.

The whole process of healing is done cell by cell, and that takes time. If your body is in a
chronic state with disease, death can occur before the body had a chance to repair - it takes
time.

The conclusion is that the body was NOT designed to get itself into a chronic state of illness,
and all things necessary for it have been supplied in nature to keep it from such state. Medicines
can stop, or delay, the process of death by a chronic or acute illness but will hardly ever cure
the core cause of the disease.

Only your blueprint, your DNA at the heart of every cell, knows what your disorder is, and it's
only that which can restore your body to full health.

It has been found that by the time we reach middle age we have already developed a variety of
conditions that will be responsible for our death in later years.

All these diseases and disorders can be avoided by making sure that we have these 8 necessary
sugars in our diets. If a symptom has already developed we can, in most cases, see remarkable
transformations over time as the cells start to communicate properly.

There are 4 basic necessary avenues that we have to oversee with 3 Nutrients that will sustain
good health & communication;
* Identify
* Protect & Repair
* Regulate
GLYCONUTRIENTS - identify: They are the 8 sugars that the body uses as tools for
communication or identification. They also support the body's ability to produce the most
potent antioxidant that you could lay your hands on. Monosaccharides are best derived from
food and eaten as food. Some monosaccharides, if we ate them in their final form would be
destroyed by the acidity in the stomach.

PHYTOCHEMICALS - Protect & Repair: They are made from fully ripe fruit and vegetables,
which are extremely high in antioxidants, cleanse the body throughout, and are extremely
important for your immunity.
PLANT STEROL - Regulate: The hormonal or endocrine system is what regulates everything
about your body. There are 600 varieties of Mexican yam but only 6 have a very special
compound called Dioscorea. Dioscorea has the highest amount of plant sterols of almost any
plant. You have 88 hormones in your body controlling every thing about you; your moods, your
blood temperature, all your bodily functions are all controlled by these hormones.

Medicines, steroids, and life's stresses throw your hormones out of balance which will affect
the way your are. It will affect your metabolism, which will affect your health.

Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) is the most widely sold pharmaceutical drug in the
world. What would it be worth to know that you can help your own body to produce the
missing hormones and hence have no need of drugs or their side effects? like cancer.

It must be understood that GLYCONUTRIENTS, PHYTOCHEMICALS, and PLANT
STEROLS, CANNOT and WILL NOT cure you of anything. They are ONLY THE TOOLS
that your body needs and requires to heal itself. Only the body heals, always. There are no
miracle cures, there are no wonder drugs, there are only deficiencies of the tools that your body
needs in your diet. Put the tools back into your diet and the body has the communication with
your blueprint to give instructions with the tools given to heal itself.

As I have said before, and I will say it again, the products are absolutely vital, for every man
woman and child. With the modern ways of producing food which leave all of us deficient,
what we have here is PRICELESS

THIS IS SUBMITTED TO YOU AS FACTUAL INFORMATION AND REQUIRES YOU
TO UNDERSTAND AND RE-EXAMINE YOUR APPROACH TO YOUR FAMILY'S
HEALTH.


Just an add on. I know of MMS I have it. But as good as MMS is, I does not CURE the reason why the problem began. Also bicarbonate soda is good, but same problem as MMS, does not cure the reason why. Glyconutrients will.

Regards to all
Roman.

[lookbeyond]

Hi Midnight, i would first get the results, if cancer- go to at least 2 different specialists for opinions on treatment and depending on prognosis decide whether or not to pursue "conventional" treatment- in the meantime i would try a strict Gerson diet and routine- obviously there are success stories from every avenue and imho it depends upon many variables, for myself i even include within this did i actually choose this at a former time as a lesson etc, one step at a time and talk to people when u need to- this forum is open 24 hrs/day

lookbeyond

[The Arthen]

Do whatever I can to get cured, but I'd still be doing the same things I've always been doing.

[eileenrose]

Cannabis helps in more cases than most general cures. You can watch the 'rick simpson' video on how to utilize it safely (and make the oil he suggest utilizing. I do).

Also just found this interesting piece (new) on curing cancer and autism with homepathy (so I don't know if it works or not).

http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/vaccines-the-true-weapons-of-mass-destruction-full-lecture/

"Vaccines The True Weapons of Mass Destruction"

snip

After Dr. Carley’s only child was brain damaged as a result of inoculations he received, Dr. Carley learned how to reverse the damage with homeopathy and other natural supplements, and subsequently realized that inoculations of disease are causing the corruption in the immune system which leads to all autoimmune diseases and cancer. Dr. Carley has developed the Hippocrates Protocol which has successfully reversed all autoimmune diseases (including autism) and cancer in over 2,000 clients (including pets) over the past 9 years. She has written the definitive paper explaining the mechanism whereby inoculations with disease are causing VIDS (Vaccine Induced Diseases), which has been featured in multiple publications all over the world and is available under the title “Inoculations: the True Weapons of Mass Destruction” on her website at www.drcarley.com. She has offered a $10,000 reward for any vaccine promoter to come on her internet radio show and refute the documents she has authored. No one has stepped forward to do so. Dr. Carley has been qualified in court as an expert witness in VIDS, Legal Abuse Syndrome, Vaccinology, and child abuse.

end snip

Her website is: http://www.drcarley.com/
Rick Simpson: http://www.phoenixtears.ca/ (I think)
His videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw
Hulda Clarke (just look her up, lots of useful information she has put out, was a MD that treated cancer alternatively. Has passed away.)

¤=[Post Update]=¤

By the way, did you see the pictures of the rats with tumors from eating GMO corn? .....all over the net

[778 neighbour of some guy]

My very crappy new doctor saw an anomalous spot on a bone just above my hip (on a bone scan image) and said it might be a tumour or it might be a cyst.

So why do I call him a crappy doctor? Two days ago I returned to his office as requested to hear the results of an xray of the hip he requested. He said the local dysfunctional hospital often takes 3 weeks to get the xrays to him. But then why did he say to see him in 7 to 10 days? And when I talked to him about the tumour or cyst scenario he said he told me at least 5 times that it was highly unlikely to be a tumour. One chance in twenty was what he said. But he never said any such thing on my previous visit. My former family doctor retired 2 years ago. He was extremely competent. Since then I have only interacted with mediocre doctors.

But for 10 days I thought I might have cancer. Scary thought. And when I researched chemotherapy and radiation I kept thinking it was a scam by big pharmacy, and that these treatments are just as likely to kill you as cancer.

Am I wrong?

You are right.

In my family we all almost all reach the mid 90ties, but not without catching something really bad on the way, like cancer, heart disease, strokes and then some, because i am very aware of this and have not exactly taken good care of myself all of my life i know i am running the risk of dropping dead sponteniously or catch one or more of the above mentioned, so to prevent this i do the following, you can research all of the things yourself or just get on a shopping spree and score all these things yourself with one afternoons work and you can get started.

MMS ( internet)

Zeolites ( internet or good health food store)

B17 ( leatrile, apricot kernels)( Good health food store, or internet)

Vit C ( take 3000 to 4000 mg a day)Take your pick, good old ascorbic acid flakes are great, good healthstore foods shop should have these or peep around on the interwebs

Colloidal silver, healthfoodstore or internet

Superfoods like chlorella, spirulina, wheatgrass, barleygrass, maca,hemp protein powder, in powdered form are easy, healthfoodstore, internet, find a good deal for you. ( all of these in a few hundred grams bags will cost you about a hundred bucks all together, mix them up in a bowl, weigh it and divide by 30 or 31 and then divide that by three ( three times a day a smoothie, you can grind upthe apricot kernels as well and toss them in too, same goes for the Vit C and zeolites, beware though, when your body is not used to this its very hard core so you might want to take this a bit slower and spread it over a few months let say three) You can however start to juice the hell out off everything green and fruity from day one, prepare for headaches and nausea, these are toxins getting expelled, just drink lots of water to assist your body throwing everything out, very cell in your body will clean out in an amazing rate.)

Fresh food ( greens/fruits) in ridiculous quantaties by juicing them (Slow juicing).

Sprout, sprout, sprout, everything seedie, beanie, or veggie, eat them, juice them, whatever, its easy and delicious.

18522

I say when you have 500 bucks to spare, you can be well on your way to killing everything that does not belong in your body or cure what is the result of a less then great lifestyle.

I also say, when you have a go at the above named products and start using them and you give this a month or two or three it will be extremely interesting to notice how you feel, look, energy levels etc, i know they did for me, 500 can be quite an investment but dropping only partially dead is way more expensive then dropping completely dead.

I apologise for my less then eloquent words but my vocabulary doesnt really matter trying to make my point.


Its also wise to read up or watch videos on youtube off all off the above to know what you can expect when you start this proces, and its fun learning about all these things, there also are a ton of docus here on avalon about cancer cures that apparently seems to work for the majority of people who decide to take themselves on that journey without becoming radioactive.

[Corncrake]

Hi Midnight - I have often debated this question myself having watched several friends and relations die after chemotherapy and to be fair I have seen some recover too. In all honesty I really don't know what I would do if presented with that situation but for the past few decades I have been eating a mostly organic high fruit and vegetable diet and exercising regularly hoping this will keep me well. However, Roman's earlier post has enlightened me somewhat on this! There is obviously more to be done. I think the mind does play an enormous part in one's live - with or without cancer - and Norman Cousin's book 'Anatomy of an Illness Perceived by the Patient' explains how he cured himself with laughter - well worth reading.

[westhill]

This information came to me recently. Confirms my intuition about all disease.

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[Fred Steeves]

But for 10 days I thought I might have cancer. Scary thought. And when I researched chemotherapy and radiation I kept thinking it was a scam by big pharmacy, and that these treatments are just as likely to kill you as cancer.

Am I wrong?

No, you're not wrong Midnight, atleast from my experience. Right around this time last year a close relative of mine was diagnosed with lung cancer. She was still healthy, vibrant, with nothing apparently wrong. She was still not bad with the chemo, save that she lost all her hair of course. She put on her best brave face at this point, and joked about it as much as she could, especially around the children. Only problem was, the chemo had taken the cancer, and broken it up. Now it was everywhere. In her brain, all over.

Never fear though, radiation to the rescue. I'll never forget it. First, It burned her skin lobster red. Then she could barely talk. Then she started falling, not able to navigate properly any more. Within just a couple of weeks she was confined to a wheelchair, and looked 85 years old, not 65. Now she wound up just barely having time to put her affairs in order, go home, and say the big goodbye. She was dead within a month.

So no, needless to say, if I ever am diagnosed with cancer, I shant be going that route. They killed her.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

My very crappy new doctor saw an anomalous spot on a bone just above my hip (on a bone scan image) and said it might be a tumour or it might be a cyst.

So why do I call him a crappy doctor? Two days ago I returned to his office as requested to hear the results of an xray of the hip he requested. He said the local dysfunctional hospital often takes 3 weeks to get the xrays to him. But then why did he say to see him in 7 to 10 days? And when I talked to him about the tumour or cyst scenario he said he told me at least 5 times that it was highly unlikely to be a tumour. One chance in twenty was what he said. But he never said any such thing on my previous visit. My former family doctor retired 2 years ago. He was extremely competent. Since then I have only interacted with mediocre doctors.

But for 10 days I thought I might have cancer. Scary thought. And when I researched chemotherapy and radiation I kept thinking it was a scam by big pharmacy, and that these treatments are just as likely to kill you as cancer.

Am I wrong?


You are correct.

Cancer is the big tinsle show. The fear built up around cancer is what perpetuates it.

Fact : a person can have cancer and heal it without the person even knowing. But if that person was, lets say, easily worried and told they had a cancer, the worry process and fear will create a reaction and make the cancer worse.

Truth is YES they have cure for cancer. Its a very easy virus to kill. Im no doctor but if i can study and fnd a cure, impliment it and indeed get a sucessful result, then im sure mr phd pants can.

Cancers are reactions to a particular type of illness. Their cell membrane is quite hard to penetrate and in so normal drugs and methods fail. However if you undwrstand this, you can get around it.

The Fear machine built up around cancer is what makes it such a joke. Surely we can see this?

The mind is the most powerful drug factory. It can make you sick and make you well. Your emotional state is a bonding agent to experiences and ailments. Do not be emotionally sucked into cancer fear.

If you need more info for your wife let me know :-)

N

[Akasha]

Alkaline diet (spinach, broccoli etc....), pulses, nuts, fruit, no meat, no alcohol, no dairy: no problem! Worked for two of my friends in the last twelve months!

[Kryztian]

Most of the people I've known with cancer have dealt with it through modern medicine and have mostly survived, but at great expense to their well being. Despite my lack of authority on the subject, my advice would be:

1) Eat an Alkaline Diet (mostly veggies, whole grains, avoiding all sugars, coffee, black tea, and minimal meat). Changing your diet will change your body chemisty and change which cells flourish and which are weakened.

2) Develop an active practice to improve your spiritual outlook - e.g. join a meditation or prayer group, receive, give and study some form of energy healing, like Reiki, take long walks in nature, become a hospice volunteer, etc.

Of course, you don't have to wait to get cancer to start yourself on the path to a better you.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Of course, you don't have to wait to get cancer to start yourself on the path to a better you.

Thats it isnt it, why wait, the amount information one can find these days is amazing so why wait, as long as you can breath under your own power there is a lot that can be done, when you look in the right places.

[AriG]

This is slightly off topic. Sorry about that.

In June, my husband had blood in his urine. The doctor diagnosed him with a kidney infection and sent him on his way. As we are currently in the states, these visits cost the insurance company about $400 for ten minutes of the doctor's time.

Ten days later, we are in the ER at midnight, my husband crying in pain, barely able to walk, vomiting, etc. The diagnosis? Kidney stones! This visit cost the insurance company about $2000 and he wasn't even given a room. He was kept in the hallway since it was Saturday night and all of the thugs like to shoot one another on Saturday night, so the place was overbooked.

My husband was then referred to a specialist - another $1000

Three weeks into his ongoing pain and discomfort, I purchased a tincture called "stone breaker" at Whole Foods. He was cured within two days.

The doctor, the specialist and the hospital ER are all part of one business. The first doctor could have simply ordered one test and could have diagnosed his stones that day. About $4000 later and a LOT of pain and suffering, an $11 bottle of an herbal formula solved the problem.

As with all systems, traditional medicine considers every factor that is self serving while failing to attend to the needs of the patient first. Since your issue is rather serious sounding, I would DEMAND that the doctor address your concerns immediately and light a fire under that lab and get you the results. And I would find another doctor.

[sigma6]

I would eat a raw vegetable diet with lots of leafy greens and some cooked with coconut oil and a small amount of protein for about a week, to build up much raw minerals and vitamins and phyto-nutrients as possible, then go on a urine fast, all with distilled water for at least 3 weeks or as long as I could manage.

And I have no doubt that this body would cure itself.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Three weeks into his ongoing pain and discomfort, I purchased a tincture called "stone breaker" at Whole Foods. He was cured within two days.

Hm, would not hurt one bit to break up any stones before they would start bothering you, thank you AriG.

18523

Is that what you are refering to?

[Libico]

I have a close childhood friend whom I recently bumped into when visiting my parents who told me that he has stage 2 lymphoma, at 28 years old with a 50/50 shot according to his doctors. I've been looking up alternative treatments that he can use with the chemo his is currently receiving and the responses here have given me a lot of amazing information to look into.

Midnight - I hope it turns out to be a false alarm for you, and there are some great alternatives here for you to consider in the worst case scenario.

Thanks to all for the helpful information.

[RunningDeer]

I stand in my own power. I keep it simple. I choose health.

I'd do exactly what I do now. Enjoy the ride. I will not go for treatment because I’m doing all the right (mostly) things to keep my body(s) healthy. I listen to it/them. For the times I don’t, it shouts back. I listen again.

My approach to health is prevention through awareness balance of mind, body, and spirit. For me, cancer is not on the menu. The #1 prevention is reprogram the mind (self-sabotage examples below).

Stay open to and incorporate new knowledge. Several recent examples for me are: masticating juicer which keeps all the vitamins, minerals and enzymes in the juice and liver detox (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6528-Liver-detox--from-av1).

To give your power away is not taking responsibility for yourself. Unconscious mind programs oneself into a life of paralysis:

- I’m clumsy
- I have a black cloud over my head
- I always loose my keys
- Accidents always happen
- I’ve always done it like that 
- I'm unorganized
- I'm a procrastinator
- I’m fat, skinny, stupid, an idiot
- Everyone hates me
- I’m afraid
- I’m weak
- I'm confused
- S/he did it to me
- It's because of my mother/father
- I can't decide
- Victim blaming 
- No one cares
- Poor me
- I can’t do that
- Everyone is jealous of me
- Don’t hate me because I'm beautiful, hubba-hunk, rich, smart
- I’m too scared
- Why me?
- I can never do that
- Life’s a bitch

Conscious Mind takes responsibility for oneself:

- Takes ownership of and for your own life choices, not what others think you should do
- Awareness of what you put out is what you get back
- Choices, choices, choices
- No blame, just get the job done
- See from the larger perspective

YOU ARE YOUR BEST ASSET! Be brave enough to get out of your own way to honestly see what is right for your unique personhood.

[Maia Gabrial]

I would try every natural remedy I know of. But the main one is Pau D'arco tea. I learned that whenever anyone checks into a Mexican hospital with cancer, the first thing they do is take them off all foods and make them drink Pau D'arco until they're healed. That's what I'd do....
Plus the cure for cancer exists, has always existed.... There even have been 4 Nobel Laureates who had the cure. When they tried to market them, the Rockefeller controlled FDA blocked them. Just thought I'd say this....

[Zamendar]

I would highly recommend the book by Ty Bollinger Cancer Step Outside the Box. His website is www.cancertruth.net. The book offers multiple cures throughout the last 100 years and is by my bedside. It is literally the bible of cancer alt cures. I hope this helps.

[seko]

First of all , no fear!

Then I would take MMS 1 and MMS 2 and eat as many fruit and vegetables.

[QueenKat]

My husband underwent rectal cancer surgery and reconstruction in April of this year. He had a colostomy done and wears a bag. He went through Chemo and Radiation before his surgery. He took the pills for the Chemo. They would've cost us three thousand dollars without insurance. They did get all of the cancer, which a couple of cells had spread to his lymph glands in his groin (the lymph gland cells were eradicated with the radiation). His journey had a lot of problems, but he's out of the woods, now and is adjusting to his new situation. Just thought I'd add this info to the mix.

I do fear, however, that the Chemotherapy effected his brain. He's so much more moody than he was before....and gets angry quicker...and other things.

Good luck on your results! I hope, and pray, that you're cancer free!

[Arrowwind]

Exactly what I would do would depend on the type and location of the cancer.
I would do mms1 and mms 2 and self urine injections as well as a diet of fresh veggies and juice, increase iodine supplementation
and I would consider adding bindweed herb or pawpaw
There would be circumstances where I might consider surgery or chemo. All depends on what is going on.
Even though chemo and surgery is not well respected on this forum I have seen it eliminate some cancers and offer
long life to the recepient.

[Watching from Cyprus]

Hello Midnight... I am one who trust in the discovery of Dr. Julio Simoncini, that Cancer is Fungus, so if we take that as fact, then it is automatically also a fact that Cancer can only grow in Acidic environment, like the mushrooms growing in acidic soil in the forrest.. So if you try to bring your body alkaline = PH 7.3 (Neutral) optimally, then you cannot grow cancer in your body.
Most people today due to bad diet has PH 5.5-6 and that is why cancer is on the rise.

All grown ups who grows cancer will then know that they are themselves to blame since the cancer only could grow after the individual started consuming foods and drinks which created the acidic bodily environment suitable for the fungus to grow. Change the diet to make the body alkaline, and the cancer will die... not you :-)

Buy some PH test strips and test your urine's PH in the morning.. there you will find out which condition your body is in.

Let me know if this appeals to you.

With Love
Peter

[ThePythonicCow]

Change the diet to make the body alkaline, and the cancer will die... not you :-)
I was able to make my drinking water substantially more basic by adding Willard Water (http://yhst-34846767927333.stores.yahoo.net/one-gallon-clear-concentrate.html) and potassium bicarbonate (http://nuts.com/cookingbaking/leavenerthickener/potassium-bicarbonate.html) to it. The following article discusses potassium bicarbonate: Diet, evolution and aging -- The pathophysiologic effects of the post-agricultural inversion of the potassium-to-sodium and base-to-chloride ratios in the human diet, by Frassetto L, Morris RC Jr, Sellmeyer DE, Todd K, Sebastian A. (pdf) (www.ionizers.org/pdf/3-scientific-articles/Diet_Evolution_and_Aging.pdf)

[Eram]

Hello Midnight... I am one who trust in the discovery of Dr. Julio Simoncini, that Cancer is Fungus, so if we take that as fact, then it is automatically also a fact that Cancer can only grow in Acidic environment, like the mushrooms growing in acidic soil in the forrest.. So if you try to bring your body alkaline = PH 7.3 (Neutral) optimally, then you cannot grow cancer in your body.
Most people today due to bad diet has PH 5.5-6 and that is why cancer is on the rise.

All grown ups who grows cancer will then know that they are themselves to blame since the cancer only could grow after the individual started consuming foods and drinks which created the acidic bodily environment suitable for the fungus to grow. Change the diet to make the body alkaline, and the cancer will die... not you :-)

Buy some PH test strips and test your urine's PH in the morning.. there you will find out which condition your body is in.

Let me know if this appeals to you.

With Love
Peter

one of the best and easiest ways to get your PH level optimal is apple vinegar, WITH the mother (a acetic bacteria that develops on fermenting alcoholic liquids).

http://chrisbeatcancer.com/mmmm-vinegar/


Since my last post was on alkalizing, and thanks to a facebook thread with Deanna and Kathy,
I figured I’d continue with that theme and write about one of my favorite products on planet earth,
which was also a staple in my anti-cancer diet: Apple Cider Vinegar.

Apple Cider Vinegar is exactly what it sounds like: Vinegar from fermented apple juice.

If you’ve never had it, it tastes like vinegar but with an appley twist, and is celebrated in the natural health world as a “cure-all” internal cleanser.

It’s rich in enzymes and potassium, which your body uses to regenerate soft tissue, and it’s an alkalizer.

Clinical studies have shown:

-It’s good for diabetes as it lowers blood glucose levels

-It lowers cholesterol

-It lowers blood pressure and promotes heart health

Studies have also shown it may be able to kill cancer cells or slow their growth. Nice!

Apple Cider Vinegar is also reported to assist in curing allergies, sinus infections, acne, flu, chronic fatigue,
candida, acid reflux, sore throats, contact dermatitis, arthritis, and gout.

According to Bragg Health Products it also:

Helps Remove Body Toxins * Helps Promote a Youthful Body *Helps support a healthy immune system
* Helps Maintain Healthy Skin * Helps Control Weight * Improves Digestion and Assimilation
* Soothes Tight and Aching Joints and Sore Muscles from exercise * Soothes irritated skin.

Whether all those claims are true, I don’t know. All I know for sure is, I love it.

And I never liked vinegar until I tried Apple Cider Vinegar about 12 years ago. Now I’m a fiend for it.
(Full disclosure: my wife can’t stand the stuff)

The most popular way to take it is to mix a teaspoon of ACV with a teaspoon of raw honey in a glass of filtered water.
Even if you don’t like vinegar, that makes it super easy to drink; kinda like diluted apple juice. It’s a great way to start the morning and they even bottle it and sell it diluted with honey as a beverage.

I took the picture on the right when I saw some recently in Fresh Market.

I also mix ACV with olive oil and spices in a salad dressing I make from scratch, and I often just swig it straight out of the bottle for a little kick. Of course it’s a great healthy substitute for any recipe that calls for vinegar, just prepare for a slightly different flavored dish.

If you can’t tell, my absolute favorite brand is Bragg Organic Apple Cider Vinegar. It’s raw and unfiltered, leaving all the vital nutrients and enzymes intact; unlike most vinegars which are pasteurized, filtered, processed, and nutritionally “dead”.

Paul Bragg was a lifelong health crusader and mentor to Jack Lalane. He wrote a book on Apple Cider Vinegar and numerous other books on diet, exercise, fasting, etc; and is just basically awesome. I have most of his books in my library.
You can find 16oz bottles of Bragg Apple Cider Vinegar at most grocery stores, or you can get a big ol’ 1 gallon jug HERE.

Bragg also makes some other delicious products we love: Liquid Aminos and Organic Sprinkle Seasoning.

Cheers!

[another bob]

About 3 years ago I was diagnosed with prostate cancer, so the first thing I did was to sit down and get in touch with my Higher Self, and make a decision on whether or not I wanted to stay in this body. Having experienced the alternative, death really had no fear factor for me any longer, and I had already had a full life, rich with accomplishments. However, I realized immediately that I could not leave my Beloved here with nobody to take care of her, so I decided to live, and instructed my Higher Self to make it so. The rest was just based on this fundamental decision and intent to manifest health.

The next thing I did was to research about the disease, gathering all the alternative health info I could on the subject so I could get a good idea of what it was all about. I altered my diet to more macrobiotic-style, did a lot of fasting, added some targeted supplements like mushrooms and phytosterols, and intinctively developed a meditation whereby I drew light down to the disease and bathed it in heaven. This was also quite helpful for any stress that was lingering on the outskirts of attention.

I steer clear of the medical profession, and only made use of them for the biopsy. The last biopsy came back clear this past spring. I had been told that I needed to get chemo or radiation , but I was not interested in medical intervention, though I can see that some might take that route. My father did, and and it helped him, but he wouldn't give up the cigarettes, so instead of dying from prostate cancer, he chose lung cancer as his ticket out.

In any case, sending you our best intent for the highest outcome to your predicament!

Blessings!

[Hervé]

On potassium and potassium deficiency, see this thread: Got Potassium? Maybe that is why you don't have glowing health! (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?28983-Got-Potassium-Maybe-that-is-why-you-don-t-have-glowing-health-)

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Chemo therapy, to me, is cruel. I had a cousin go throug it and did not survive. I cant believe they still allow it. . .

The first step for all of us is not to believe that any illness can beat us.
If you are told you have an illness do not give in to fear or victim mentality. The " woe is me " mind set Will make you worse.

Here is a text that describes how emotives work. It is from my study and book called Spiritual Mathematics and Emotive contractual law.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48110-The-Biggest-Show-On-Earth-WELCOME&p=534009&viewfull=1#post534009

This gives a detailed scientific explanation to what happens to us " spiritually " when we become ill or have an accident.

The basics of self healing have never really been addressed in terms of actual explanations of DNA programs and auto responces.

What my study goes into is firstly what happens when we get ill, and then re adresses what " should happen " instead in terms of a combination of mental and physical responces.

We have been, in a broader sence, re programmed into submition. And we are re writing our DNA synaps with this programming. YOU MUST TAKE BACK RESPONSABILITY FOR YOUR HEALTH AND MENTAL STATE.

Dont panick! read my link, it gives you step by step guide on how we Actually work. Its taken me over 20 years of study to link this all up and deliver a package that, if used, Will completely change your health down to a cellular level. And i dont want a cent for it. Its my contribution from my heart. So please read it and give it a go.

Im sorry, i dont want to hijack this thread but its poignant information. And i know it can help people with cancer and please study it BEFORE you get ill, it works better if you re program your synaptic responces before you get ill. If the new program is in place, illneses have much less, if any chance of getting to you.


Suppliment : fyi, the method described is designed to be a re action to an accident or disease. It dosent stop you getting ill or having accidents, nobody can do that with all the free radicals and sickness producing agents in our food,water and air. HOWEVER! The body and mind are amazing things, and if we are armed with the right mental responce then we get well quickly. The body will re adapt and become stronger once you re program your DNA synaptic responces.

And dont believe the establishment about DNA being locked and un changeable. This is, like chemo therapy, a load of baloney. Your DNA is a mirror representative to your blue print of life. It is an interactive and re writable sequence. There are locked sequences that are written in for your safety and ones you can change and re write with your BELIEF SYSTEMS ; )

Question i get most is : how can you re program dna without drugs or a doctor?

Answer : drugs and doctors are designed to lock your DNA into sickness.

Question : so how do i do it?

Answer : with your own throught process :-)


:-)

N

[Midnight]

Some excellent responses! And much of it is relevant even if you don't have cancer.

My research woke me up to the importance of the body's PH level in regards to all major diseases. I bought the PH test strips, and my morning urine was 5.5 which is too acidic (terminal cancer patients have a PH of 4.5 or lower). I've made some dietary modifications, and I have added some supplements, and my PH is on the rise. An acidic body that has a reduced level of oxygen available for the cells is the perfect environment for cancer. Lots of green vegies, some fruit, certain supplements, deep breathing meditation, and positive thinking are things I am doing that should enhance my health, even if I don't have cancer.

Once again, thanks! (I'll let you know if it was a false alarm or not.)

[westhill]

Hi Midnight...
It seems that this has refocussed you on your body. Sometimes we need a crisis real or imagined to get back to balance.
You have listened and you are acting. Believe your body's intelligence. It got you this far. Much love.

[nomadguy]

I would eat a raw vegetable diet with lots of leafy greens and some cooked with coconut oil and a small amount of protein for about a week, to build up much raw minerals and vitamins and phyto-nutrients as possible, then go on a urine fast, all with distilled water for at least 3 weeks or as long as I could manage.

And I have no doubt that this body would cure itself.

I would do something very similar to what is stated above, and add the Rick Simpsons hemp oil treatment and add blue green algae to my diet.
Also I may need to find a more peaceful way to exist, "low stress".

[eileenrose]

I would eat a raw vegetable diet with lots of leafy greens and some cooked with coconut oil and a small amount of protein for about a week, to build up much raw minerals and vitamins and phyto-nutrients as possible, then go on a urine fast, all with distilled water for at least 3 weeks or as long as I could manage.

And I have no doubt that this body would cure itself.

I would do something very similar to what is stated above, and add the Rick Simpsons hemp oil treatment and add blue green algae to my diet.
Also I may need to find a more peaceful way to exist, "low stress".

There is no end to detoxing. Just part of the equation of living in modern times. DETOX DETOX DETOX

(SHOULD BE PLASTERED ON OUR FOREHEADS)

[rgray222]

Many of us are cancer survivors, keep in mind that most people today 'live with cancer' rather than 'die from cancer'.


But for 10 days I thought I might have cancer. Scary thought. And when I researched chemotherapy and radiation I kept thinking it was a scam by big pharmacy, and that these treatments are just as likely to kill you as cancer.
Am I wrong?

If I could offer some advice, do not reject mainstream medical treatment. Look at it as a possible option while you explore all the available options. Dismissing chemo or radiation out of hand may not be a very wise decision.

keep in mind that a positive attitude can aid the healing process far more than people understand!
Good luck

[Eram]

Many of us are cancer survivors, keep in mind that most people today 'live with cancer' rather than 'die from cancer'.


But for 10 days I thought I might have cancer. Scary thought. And when I researched chemotherapy and radiation I kept thinking it was a scam by big pharmacy, and that these treatments are just as likely to kill you as cancer.
Am I wrong?

If I could offer some advice, do not reject mainstream medical treatment. Look at it as a possible option while you explore all the available options. Dismissing chemo or radiation out of hand may not be a very wise decision.

keep in mind that a positive attitude can aid the healing process far more than people understand!
Good luck

Hi rgray222,

Only problem with chemo is, that, in order for lots of alternative cures to be able to work, you need to have a functioning immune system. Chemo destroys the immune system and in that, also your chance of an alternative route to health.

So one can't walk both paths and needs to make a decision right from the start.

What would be a situation in which chemo and radiation would be preferable in your opinion?

[Watching from Cyprus]

Sodium Bicarbonate is THE BEST remedy to quickly bring the PH up if too low.... AND PLEASE do not recommend anybody to drink Apple Vinegar just like that since apple vinegar typically has a PH of 4.25... Sodium Bicarbonate has 12. Apple Vinegar is an excellent remedy for many things and i take it especially before i go to bed if unhealthy family dinner has been consumed, since it breaks down the fat in the digestion system before it resides on the side bones :-) ... Just if you have cancer and wish to bring your PH level up, Vinegar is not a good idea until you are finished with the 2 weeks Sodium Bicarbonate treatment... I HAVE CURED A FRIEND OF MINE FOR PROSTATE CANCER.. His biopsy is now clean .. he only took the treatment for 2 weeks, and he send his PH level readings to me via SMS every day.

Important for all to know since this happened during the treatment : PH went up to 8.5 after 1 week... stayed there for 4 days as is maximum.. on the second day of PH 8.5 my friend tested his PH in the evening since he didnt feel well.. it had fallen down to 6.5... After asking him out what he had been eating and/or drinking which he shouldnt have, he had only one 7UP.. So i hope you can understand that white sugar and carbonated drinks should not be consumed at all... NOT ONLY ONE... 7UP and the likes GIVES CANCER.

With Love
Peter






one of the best and easiest ways to get your PH level optimal is apple vinegar, WITH the mother (a acetic bacteria that develops on fermenting alcoholic liquids).

http://chrisbeatcancer.com/mmmm-vinegar/

[Eram]

Sodium Bicarbonate is THE BEST remedy to quickly bring the PH up if too low.... AND PLEASE do not recommend anybody to drink Apple Vinegar just like that since apple vinegar typically has a PH of 4.25... Sodium Bicarbonate has 12. Apple Vinegar is an excellent remedy for many things and i take it especially before i go to bed if unhealthy family dinner has been consumed, since it breaks down the fat in the digestion system before it resides on the side bones :-) ... Just if you have cancer and wish to bring your PH level up, Vinegar is not a good idea until you are finished with the 2 weeks Sodium Bicarbonate treatment... I HAVE CURED A FRIEND OF MINE FOR PROSTATE CANCER.. His biopsy is now clean .. he only took the treatment for 2 weeks, and he send his PH level readings to me via SMS every day.

Important for all to know since this happened during the treatment : PH went up to 8.5 after 1 week... stayed there for 4 days as is maximum.. on the second day of PH 8.5 my friend tested his PH in the evening since he didnt feel well.. it had fallen down to 6.5... After asking him out what he had been eating and/or drinking which he shouldnt have, he had only one 7UP.. So i hope you can understand that white sugar and carbonated drinks should not be consumed at all... NOT ONLY ONE... 7UP and the likes GIVES CANCER.

With Love
Peter


Hi Peter,

Good to hear that you cured you friend of prostate cancer. Not every cure has to damage or destroy other parts of the living organism in the process and you proofed it :).

You say a few interesting things and I hope you can explain a bit more here and there.

When we started to use apple vinegar to lower the acidity in our body, we could just feel it's benefits in a couple of days, so imo the acidity of the apple vinegar and the amount that is to be ingested daily, doesn't influence the PH of the body in a bad way. Lots of food that DOES make the body acid aren't acidic to begin with, like proteins, coffee, sugar, nuts, wheat etc.
Why do so many people recommend apple vinegar (unfiltered) as a remedy for cancer if it isn't working that well?

About the Sodium Bicarbonate: I just bought it last week to brush our teeth with.
How can you use this to lower the acid in the body?
I presume that you don't want to have a PH of 8,5 when you don't have a cancer, so for normal use there is a different guide line I guess?

best wishes!

Waky

[Watching from Cyprus]

Sodium Bicarbonate is THE BEST remedy to quickly bring the PH up if too low.... AND PLEASE do not recommend anybody to drink Apple Vinegar just like that since apple vinegar typically has a PH of 4.25... Sodium Bicarbonate has 12. Apple Vinegar is an excellent remedy for many things and i take it especially before i go to bed if unhealthy family dinner has been consumed, since it breaks down the fat in the digestion system before it resides on the side bones :-) ... Just if you have cancer and wish to bring your PH level up, Vinegar is not a good idea until you are finished with the 2 weeks Sodium Bicarbonate treatment... I HAVE CURED A FRIEND OF MINE FOR PROSTATE CANCER.. His biopsy is now clean .. he only took the treatment for 2 weeks, and he send his PH level readings to me via SMS every day.

Important for all to know since this happened during the treatment : PH went up to 8.5 after 1 week... stayed there for 4 days as is maximum.. on the second day of PH 8.5 my friend tested his PH in the evening since he didnt feel well.. it had fallen down to 6.5... After asking him out what he had been eating and/or drinking which he shouldnt have, he had only one 7UP.. So i hope you can understand that white sugar and carbonated drinks should not be consumed at all... NOT ONLY ONE... 7UP and the likes GIVES CANCER.

With Love
Peter


Hi Peter,

Good to hear that you cured you friend of prostate cancer. Not every cure has to damage or destroy other parts of the living organism in the process and you proofed it :).

You say a few interesting things and I hope you can explain a bit more here and there.

When we started to use apple vinegar to lower the acidity in our body, we could just feel it's benefits in a couple of days, so imo the acidity of the apple vinegar and the amount that is to be ingested daily, doesn't influence the PH of the body in a bad way. Lots of food that DOES make the body acid aren't acidic to begin with, like proteins, coffee, sugar, nuts, wheat etc.
Why do so many people recommend apple vinegar (unfiltered) as a remedy for cancer if it isn't working that well?

About the Sodium Bicarbonate: I just bought it last week to brush our teeth with.
How can you use this to lower the acid in the body?
I presume that you don't want to have a PH of 8,5 when you don't have a cancer, so for normal use there is a different guide line I guess?

best wishes!

Waky

Hey Waky, Simply test your urine and if too low, take a teaspoon of Sodium Bicarbonate in a mug of boiled water together with a teaspoon of molasses, morning and evening till you are on the 7.3 PH level.. Vinegar is fantastic, but but... if you eat red meats or animal fats only.. since as i mentioned it breaks down these non wanted fats which is good. When on Sodium Bicarbonate.. YOU DON'T EAT MEAT AT ALL.

The human intestines are 7-9 meters long. Why do you think that carnivores have have short intestines and vegans have long intestines.... think about it...

Humans are not meant to eat meat.. And i write this being a part meat eater myself .. I eat chicken + its liver and fish...

You want to have a alkaline body which is PH 7.3 as my wife has :-) My wife has lactose allergy so she does not eat or drink any lactose such as milk cheese etc.

So again, of meat you can have is only boiled or grilled chicken or fish (no frying of any kind,,, not fried vegetables either).

My PH is 6.5 and i am working to move it up to 7ish :-)

Love you all.

Peter

[Arrowwind]

Chemo therapy, to me, is cruel. I had a cousin go throug it and did not survive. I cant believe they still allow it. . .

N

Im sorry your relative did not do well, and certainly some chemo is very detrimental and the treatments are cruel

But I have a sister in law who took chemo for pancreatic cancer with a life expectancy of 3 to 6 months. It is now 9 months later and she is doing will with her tumors mostly gone. She had very little poor reaction to the drug.. it was called Gemstar. I also have a another sister in law who is in year 8 of her chemo for breast cancer. She appears extremely healthy and actually, I cant keep up with her on a hike.

We shouldn't throw the baby out witht he bath water. Many people are not equiped to accept such drastic life style changes in diet etc and many will not accept that meditation and visualization is a viable option. So what benefit is is to try to disuade them conventional options? Their lives are equally worth fighting for within whatever medical paradigm they choose and believe in.

and we should not let erroneous beliefs disuade us from looking at the facts objectively

[Connecting with Sauce]

I can highly recommend listening to this link >>>
Cancer is not a disease it is a survival mechanism... (http://www.oneradionetwork.com/health/andreas-moritz-holistic-healing-june-16-2011/)

What I would do if...

1. I'd liver flush 5-6 times or more... (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6528-Liver-detox--from-av1-) My original PA1 thread on the topic here (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16447&highlight=liver)

2. I'd fast... (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1793-Taking-the-piss-Your-own-best-medicine...&p=548622&viewfull=1#post548622)

3. I'd do some Urine therapy... (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1793-Taking-the-piss-Your-own-best-medicine...)

4. I'd sort the gut out with fermented foods (1. is essential for good gut health) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43548-The-gut-of-most-disease...-NOT-what-you-think-)

5. I'd drink distilled water. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_msWtSljFQw) I can recommend the MegaHome distiller very good.

6. I'd get rid of pesticides and fluoride out of my food (organic) and water (see 5. distilling is one of the only ways to get this toxin out)

7. I'd do a heavy metal detox especially mercury and remove amalgams safely (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3994) if I had any with a rubber dam... FIR saunaing would REALLY help with this releasing toxins through the skin and bypass the liver/kidneys which are already toxic right now...

8. I'd look into releasing ANY trapped emotions from my energy body and investigate this... (http://www.oneradionetwork.com/uncategorized/dr-bradley-nelson-the-emotion-code-how-to-release-your-trapped-emotions-for-abundant-health-love-and-happiness-may-14-2012/)

9. I'd relax and not worry about having cancer just know your body with the measure here will heal itself... You just need to help it.

10. I'd find a really good healer who may be able to help you out... pm me I may know one who may be able to help you FOC.

I hope this helps...

PS knowing what I know I would not have chemotherapy, as the first link cover, cancer is not a disease... The immune system needs boosting and Chemo will just overload the system. I would not have it if I had cancer. I already do pretty most of the things on the list above so have a very slim chance of the cancer which is in my body (and everyone elses btw) getting out of balance and into a state where it causes concern...

PPS if you think you may have cancer DO A PREGNANCY TEST... If you are male and pregnant then you have cancer (HCG) which is at an elevated level and growing like a baby inside.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Chemo therapy, to me, is cruel. I had a cousin go throug it and did not survive. I cant believe they still allow it. . .

N

Im sorry your relative did not do well, and certainly some chemo is very detrimental and the treatments are cruel

But I have a sister in law who took chemo for pancreatic cancer with a life expectancy of 3 to 6 months. It is now 9 months later and she is doing will with her tumors mostly gone. She had very little poor reaction to the drug.. it was called Gemstar. I also have a another sister in law who is in year 8 of her chemo for breast cancer. She appears extremely healthy and actually, I cant keep up with her on a hike.

We shouldn't throw the baby out witht he bath water. Many people are not equiped to accept such drastic life style changes in diet etc and many will not accept that meditation and visualization is a viable option. So what benefit is is to try to disuade them conventional options? Their lives are equally worth fighting for within whatever medical paradigm they choose and believe in.

and we should not let erroneous beliefs disuade us from looking at the facts objectively


Hello Arrowind :-) thank you for your post.

Im sorry i came of as trying to disuade people from chemo. It is my personal opinion, knowing its un nessesary to put someone that is sick through such extreme radiation poisoning. Having said that my mother went through mild chemo for breast cancer and after 5 years of taking drugs and treatment she is clear.

When she told me about it i naturally offered to help in tandem with her other treatment and i made no fuss about it. I saw her come out from treatment tired and listless. The doctors never prescribed eating fresh food and vitamins to restore health. They just gave her drugs. So i took it upon myself to boost her diet becuase a 75 year old woman needs good nutrition to re generate what the chemo takes out.

I also get called out to an intensive care unit in a major hospital in Sydney. Sometimes in hospice care. And not one doctor prescribes nutrition, which is THE most intelligent and effective way to heal a body. I am constantly appauled at our medical establishment. Its only through the love and care of some beautiful nursing staff and a dear friend who is an administrator in the hospice that im alowed to help.

I completely respect the decisions your relatives took and i m so very happy its working for them, bless them and i do hope they get back to normality nd live a beatiful long life :-)

The treatments i describe here are basic compared to full courses i teach but its just a small way to spread easy techniques that people can try if they so desire.

Thank you :-)
N
N

[Nanoo Nanoo]

I can highly recommend listening to this link >>>
Cancer is not a disease it is a survival mechanism... (http://www.oneradionetwork.com/health/andreas-moritz-holistic-healing-june-16-2011/)

What I would do if...

1. I'd liver flush 5-6 times or more... (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6528-Liver-detox--from-av1-) My original PA1 thread on the topic here (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16447&highlight=liver)

2. I'd fast... (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1793-Taking-the-piss-Your-own-best-medicine...&p=548622&viewfull=1#post548622)

3. I'd do some Urine therapy... (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1793-Taking-the-piss-Your-own-best-medicine...)

4. I'd sort the gut out with fermented foods (1. is essential for good gut health) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43548-The-gut-of-most-disease...-NOT-what-you-think-)

5. I'd drink distilled water. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_msWtSljFQw) I can recommend the MegaHome distiller very good.

6. I'd get rid of pesticides and fluoride out of my food (organic) and water (see 5. distilling is one of the only ways to get this toxin out)

7. I'd do a heavy metal detox especially mercury and remove amalgams safely (http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3994) if I had any with a rubber dam... FIR saunaing would REALLY help with this releasing toxins through the skin and bypass the liver/kidneys which are already toxic right now...

8. I'd look into releasing ANY trapped emotions from my energy body and investigate this... (http://www.oneradionetwork.com/uncategorized/dr-bradley-nelson-the-emotion-code-how-to-release-your-trapped-emotions-for-abundant-health-love-and-happiness-may-14-2012/)

9. I'd relax and not worry about having cancer just know your body with the measure here will heal itself... You just need to help it.

10. I'd find a really good healer who may be able to help you out... pm me I may know one who may be able to help you FOC.

I hope this helps...

PS knowing what I know I would not have chemotherapy, as the first link cover, cancer is not a disease... The immune system needs boosting and Chemo will just overload the system. I would not have it if I had cancer. I already do pretty most of the things on the list above so have a very slim chance of the cancer which is in my body (and everyone elses btw) getting out of balance and into a state where it causes concern...

PPS if you think you may have cancer DO A PREGNANCY TEST... If you are male and pregnant then you have cancer (HCG) which is at an elevated level and growing like a baby inside.


Excellent Sauce of info :-) thank you

N

[Chris Gilbert]

If such was to occur, I would take time off and devote more hours to my neikung meditation practice, along with consulting skilled practitioners who follow the same method I do (or good healers from other systems).

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Actually i believe vinigar neutralises acidity.

Bi carb definitely netralises nitric acids.

When my tummy feels upset or acidic i drink some nice balsamic vinigar with water. It totally neutralises an upset stomach.
Typically 10 ml balsamic to 40 ml water.

Vinigar can be used to neutralise chemichal burns and sun burn.

So i think it has neutralising properties.

Another treatment you can try is drinking Hydrogen Peroxide in small doses. I often drink a mix of 15 ml of 6% by volume Hydrogen Peroxide and 50 ml water, before a bike ride. It gives my legs great power and oxygen. Its also helped clear pain i used to get in my medulla.

I used to get terrible head aches in the back of my head after a hard bike ride. When i started using HP it cleared up. Now it dosent happen anymore :-)

N

[Hervé]

Psssstttt... Nanoo...


Vinegar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinegar)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vinegar is a liquid substance consisting mainly of acetic acid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetic_acid) (CH3CO2H) and water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water), the acetic acid being produced through the fermentation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_Fermentation) of ethanol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol) by acetic acid bacteria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetic_acid_bacteria).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinegar#cite_note-0) It is today mainly used in the kitchen as a general cooking ingredient, but historically, as the most easily available mild acid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid), it had a great variety of industrial, medical, and domestic uses, some of which (such as a general household cleanser) are still promoted today. Commercial vinegar is produced either by fast or slow fermentation processes. In general, slow methods are used with traditional vinegars, and fermentation proceeds slowly over the course of weeks or months. The longer fermentation period allows for the accumulation of a nontoxic slime composed of acetic acid bacteria. Fast methods add mother of vinegar (i.e., bacterial culture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacterial_culture)) to the source liquid before adding air using a venturi pump (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venturi_pump) system or a turbine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbine) to promote oxygenation to obtain the fastest fermentation. In fast production processes, vinegar may be produced in a period ranging from 20 hours to three days.

[Andreash94]

personaly i would use THC it kills cancer cells but have an 2nd efect euphoria :) (so called canabis/marijuana)

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Psst Amzer Zo


http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070925020059AAn5FMM

Acids can neutralise each other. In this case the body reads the acid from the vinegar and tells the body to stop producing more acid. Because acetic acid is not a base it reacts with salts or sodium hydroxide to produce a watered down version of sodium acetate which is a salt.

Stomach acid s typically 6 molar hydrocloric acid. Vinegar is typically 1 molar acid. So the reaction of the vinegar telling the body to stop producing acid reduces the acidity down to a more accepatle level. Id say in the vicinity of about 2 - 3 moles.

Hence vinegar can be used to neutralise acidity :-)

N
N

[Hervé]

Psssstttt... Nanoo...

I guess the misunderstanding comes from the usage of the word "neutralize."

Acid and base neutralize each other whereas ingesting acid prevents the production of more acid by one's stomach; or else dilutes the gastric acids... but does not "neutralize" the oxidation.

[ThePythonicCow]

Psssstttt... Nanoo...


Vinegar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinegar)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vinegar is a liquid substance consisting mainly of acetic acid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetic_acid) (CH3CO2H) and water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water)
Even though apple cider vinegar (ACV) is acidic, I have seen so many claims on the Internet that it ends up making the body less acidic that I'm not ready to just dismiss those claims.

Perhaps, once digested, ACV has an alkalizing affect?

[Hervé]

[...]

Perhaps, once digested, ACV has an alkalizing affect?

cf post above yours.

[ThePythonicCow]

... whereas ingesting acid prevents the production of more acid by one's stomach ...
If I understand correctly, the increased production of stomach acid is not a net acidic event for the body, because the other half of that reaction is increased production of (alkaline) bile in equal amounts.

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cf post above yours.
If that post addresses my questions ... I don't know it yet :).

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Psssssst psst psss ( i think i sprung a leak :-)


Amzer Zo


Hydrocloric acid s base is Sodium Hydroxide

Ref : http://m.everythingscience.co.za/grade-11/08-types-of-reactions/08-types-of-reactions-01.cnxmlplus

A neutralization reaction would take place because you are reacting an acid (vinegar = acetic acid) with a base (NaOH). The balanced equation looks like this: CH3COOH + NaOH ===> CH3COO-Na+ + HOH

Quoted. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081115134934AAE3Bd4

Hope this helps :-)

N

[Hervé]

... whereas ingesting acid prevents the production of more acid by one's stomach ...
If I understand correctly, the increased production of stomach acid is not a net acidic event for the body, because the other half of that reaction is increased production of (alkaline) bile in equal amounts.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


cf post above yours.
If that post addresses my questions ... I don't know it yet :).

It's only 1/2 the answer... the other 1/2 was posted by Nanoo with the difference in "strength" between apple cider vinegar (malic acid) and gastric chlorhydric acid.

Gastric acid production is halted by ingestion of vinegar acid which, being less strong, requires less production of bile and gives a break to one's liver (see the liver cleanse thread), as far as I can gather.

Nonetheless, it is still an "alkali producing" "food."

[Hervé]

Psssssst psst psss ( i think i sprung a leak :-)


Amzer Zo


Hydrocloric acid s base is Sodium Hydroxide

Ref : http://m.everythingscience.co.za/grade-11/08-types-of-reactions/08-types-of-reactions-01.cnxmlplus

A neutralization reaction would take place because you are reacting an acid (vinegar = acetic acid) with a base (NaOH). The balanced equation looks like this: CH3COOH + NaOH ===> CH3COO-Na+ + HOH

Quoted. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081115134934AAE3Bd4

Hope this helps :-)

N

No contest about a base (NaOH) neutralizing acetic acid :)

[Watching from Cyprus]

Chemo therapy, to me, is cruel. I had a cousin go throug it and did not survive. I cant believe they still allow it. . .

N

Im sorry your relative did not do well, and certainly some chemo is very detrimental and the treatments are cruel

But I have a sister in law who took chemo for pancreatic cancer with a life expectancy of 3 to 6 months. It is now 9 months later and she is doing will with her tumors mostly gone. She had very little poor reaction to the drug.. it was called Gemstar. I also have a another sister in law who is in year 8 of her chemo for breast cancer. She appears extremely healthy and actually, I cant keep up with her on a hike.

We shouldn't throw the baby out witht he bath water. Many people are not equiped to accept such drastic life style changes in diet etc and many will not accept that meditation and visualization is a viable option. So what benefit is is to try to disuade them conventional options? Their lives are equally worth fighting for within whatever medical paradigm they choose and believe in.

and we should not let erroneous beliefs disuade us from looking at the facts objectively

Wake up arrowwind.. will you please...

[Arrowwind]

Chemo therapy, to me, is cruel. I had a cousin go throug it and did not survive. I cant believe they still allow it. . .

N

Im sorry your relative did not do well, and certainly some chemo is very detrimental and the treatments are cruel

But I have a sister in law who took chemo for pancreatic cancer with a life expectancy of 3 to 6 months. It is now 9 months later and she is doing will with her tumors mostly gone. She had very little poor reaction to the drug.. it was called Gemstar. I also have a another sister in law who is in year 8 of her chemo for breast cancer. She appears extremely healthy and actually, I cant keep up with her on a hike.

We shouldn't throw the baby out witht he bath water. Many people are not equiped to accept such drastic life style changes in diet etc and many will not accept that meditation and visualization is a viable option. So what benefit is is to try to disuade them conventional options? Their lives are equally worth fighting for within whatever medical paradigm they choose and believe in.

and we should not let erroneous beliefs disuade us from looking at the facts objectively

Wake up arrowwind.. will you please...

I am awake and my two sister in laws are alive. ive known many people who have died from cancer with alternative therapy so maybe you need to wake up to that reality. Unlike some people I believe that people have the right to choose their medicine without being harrassed by family and other do gooders regardless if it is conventional or alternative medicine that they seek and choose.
I talked to my son last week who reported that his friend with leukemia is doing well after chemo; no signs of the disease. He recently got married and a baby on the way.

People who cant look at the truth bore me and people who cant accept other peoples truths bore me even more

[Watching from Cyprus]

Its not your truth or my truth, it is the truth, and that is proven.
Who established the first Modern Medicine Universities.... Rockefeller.... Dr. Rockefeller... Now i have studied this and so should you.. To your information i actually deal in Medicines and yes also HIV, Cancer and other highly poisonous medicines, which are sold to the government on contract.. I have withdrawn from the business now (no new contracts ;-), since i know what effects these medicines has on humans.. Even though you believe that people you know in fact have been cured by radioactive treatment, be aware that alternatives are to prefer and cures much much faster and safer.

As i wrote i have cured a friend of mine for prostate cancer within 1 month, and others are under treatment now by a German doctor who administers Sodium Bicarbonate intravenous...

You can doubt my truth.. makes not difference to me... I cure people... do you?

Love
Peter

[eileenrose]

The reason people don't die from radiation treatments is (my feeling....so not 'a fact') ..and chemotherapy is that they are healthy before the treatments take affect, except for the cancer (yes, I realize this doesn't make sense). So they have a healthy enough system to withstand the horrible chemicals and or radiation side affects. They survive the treatments.

So actually (regarding a couple of post on this topic, 2 and 3 above this one), it isn't that they are necessarily healthy now. It is they have recovered from physical visible side effects. So the outside observer see's healthy people. The people who don't survive these treatments arn't around to tell you otherwise, they are dead or sick in the hospital (so again, you are just not seeing them.....). And the people may actually be sick inside. You don't know because no one asks. No one wants to know.

So it isn't that people get well from chemotherapy or radiation. They have been affected. Their health has been damaged. And they may fully recover or they may have underlying illnesses at work. No one can say because no one wants to know (I mean the doctors don't want to know).

It is as if once a person goes into the hospital, they cease to exist. People are dying regularly from all kinds of side affects from BigPharm drugs and no one minds or pays the least bit of attention. I hear it weekly. Oh so and so died. Oh....too bad. Next.

I will give one example that I have right off the top of my head. A middle age, thought to be in good health, man died last month (his mom is friends with mine). He had heart pain, went to the hospital, a few hours later they sent him home. He died 3 hours later from a heart attack, at home. They found he the next morning dead in their living room. He had children, a wife, loving parents. He is just....gone. And everyone is asking the exact same question, why did the hospital just send him home? Why didn't they check further or keep him for observation. Why didn't they care?

The family decided not to sue. So hush hush. No one knows what happened. No one cares. He is dead. That is it. But in the whispers....every one knows something bad happen to him and the hospital is probably the one at fault. But since lawsuits take energy, I guess the family opted out. I mean, the hospital couldn't possibly be evil, right? Or so the family feels (what little is being said....again....I am getting this 3rd hand now).

That is how all Americans are programmed. You don't go against the hospital. You do what the doctor says. You take your medicine or else we (the hospitals) can't be held liable. Blah, blah, blah.

Zero care. Zero care. Zero care. (about the person, their family, or their lives).

We are just robots and like every other machine, we can be either be 'fixed' or we are 'broken' and should be tossed (or so the attitude is slowing creeping in to existing medicine).

Wait till Obamacare. This is nothing yet.

[The Truth Is In There]

some people get well again despite chemo and radiation treatment, not because of it. that is a fact.

[spiritwind]

I do have a good friend who passed away this year because she received chemo and radiation 10 years ago for cancer. They didn't really explain to her at the time that it was only buying her time. She had cancer of the female organs and the treatment caused a great deal of damage to all her vital organs that slowly killed her over a 10 year period. Now, granted, she didn't make any life style changes so I am sure that plays a part, a big part. It was awful to see the treatment she received (or really didn't receive) during her last hospital stay. She was on medicare and medicaid so I am sure that makes a difference in how you are treated. I had another friend who had cancer of the jaw and said the treatment felt like having his head in a microwave and that he wouldn't do it again. My ex-husband also passed away from prostate cancer in 2008 after a 6 year conventional battle, chemo and radiation. I got him to try Essiac tea and he actually went through a period of remission but his doctors told him to quit taking it. He started going downhill again shortly thereafter. I agree that it probably depends on numerous things such as overall health at start of treatment, mental health, length and frequency of treatment, what type of cancer and so on. For some people conventional treatment does seem to work out okay for them and I agree with Arrowind in that alot of people just can't/won't make the neccessary life changes to go any other route. Most people I know are rather programmed. Even my daughter got real uncomfortable when I went to the doctor with her and started asking some questions about the medication the doctor wanted to prescribe for her. Even the doctor didn't seem to appreciate my inquiry, probably because he isn't used to being questioned. We agreed that I wouldn't go with her anymore because I told her I would not keep my mouth shut in the future and that I didn't care if it made the doctor uncomfortable. For myself, I know what to do to stay healthy and I just don't always do what I know because, lets face it, for most of us it takes a lot of personal discipline. I would pull out all the stops though if I had to. If that still didn't work at least I would do what I could to maintain some quality of life. I'd rather have less time but more quality than more time and less quality.

[Arrowwind]

As i wrote i have cured a friend of mine for prostate cancer within 1 month, and others are under treatment now by a German doctor who administers Sodium Bicarbonate intravenous...

You can doubt my truth.. makes not difference to me... I cure people... do you?

Love
Peter

Bully for you.

There are many natual cures for cancer but still you have no right to limit people in what medicine they wish to take and nor should you say that chemo cannot cure cancer for clearly it has in some cirucmstance.

I doubt there is one dam natural cure cancer that I dont know about for I have spent the last 30 years researching it and writing about it... regardless. you cannot force people to take a treatment and it is our duty to support people in their very personal decisions. ... and still be ready with information when they are ready to listen

I have cured my own cancer with Rife therapy and nutrition and detox... and at the same time i watched my comrads in their struggle with cancer die from very similar treatments.

There are no guarantees with alternative medicine nor conventional medicine.

Your words tell me that you have had actually very little experience in counseling people with or without cancer.

[Arrowwind]

some people get well again despite chemo and radiation treatment, not because of it. that is a fact.

Yes, that is true also.
Radiation is a very deadly treatment and much worse than chemo in most cases.

[Watching from Cyprus]

Dear Arrowwind,

I will be here in case you or your nearest ever need any real medical advise....

May you be strong, healthy and full of love.
Peter

[The Truth Is In There]

I do have a good friend who passed away this year because she received chemo and radiation 10 years ago for cancer. They didn't really explain to her at the time that it was only buying her time. She had cancer of the female organs and the treatment caused a great deal of damage to all her vital organs that slowly killed her over a 10 year period. Now, granted, she didn't make any life style changes so I am sure that plays a part, a big part. It was awful to see the treatment she received (or really didn't receive) during her last hospital stay. She was on medicare and medicaid so I am sure that makes a difference in how you are treated. I had another friend who had cancer of the jaw and said the treatment felt like having his head in a microwave and that he wouldn't do it again. My ex-husband also passed away from prostate cancer in 2008 after a 6 year conventional battle, chemo and radiation. I got him to try Essiac tea and he actually went through a period of remission but his doctors told him to quit taking it. He started going downhill again shortly thereafter. I agree that it probably depends on numerous things such as overall health at start of treatment, mental health, length and frequency of treatment, what type of cancer and so on. For some people conventional treatment does seem to work out okay for them and I agree with Arrowind in that alot of people just can't/won't make the neccessary life changes to go any other route. Most people I know are rather programmed. Even my daughter got real uncomfortable when I went to the doctor with her and started asking some questions about the medication the doctor wanted to prescribe for her. Even the doctor didn't seem to appreciate my inquiry, probably because he isn't used to being questioned. We agreed that I wouldn't go with her anymore because I told her I would not keep my mouth shut in the future and that I didn't care if it made the doctor uncomfortable. For myself, I know what to do to stay healthy and I just don't always do what I know because, lets face it, for most of us it takes a lot of personal discipline. I would pull out all the stops though if I had to. If that still didn't work at least I would do what I could to maintain some quality of life. I'd rather have less time but more quality than more time and less quality.

most people are indeed programmed, i've seen several cases among acquaintances of my parents. you can list many different kinds of alternative cancer cures all day long, all with more or less impressive track records, and they may go as far as nodding their heads and putting on a polite smile but that's as far as their consideration goes. then it's chemo or radiation because the doctors told them it's their best option. eventually you hear how they died or keep on suffering. i don't empathize with these people, it's what they chose, after all. if they can't even be bothered to look into alternatives, or try them if it means stopping their unhealthy eating habits, then it's best that they die. it's nature's way to ensure a healthy continuation of the species.

if you had cancer, what would you do? - if i got cancer despite my healthy diet and exercise i'd kill myself before descending to the point where you spend your days suffering and hoping you die soon. i'll never understand why sick people hang on to their wretched lifes if they could end their suffering from one second to the next. cut the jugular vein and in seconds you're in total bliss, or jump from the highest building you can find. it doesn't get any easier than that. after all, it's not as if you don't have to come back and try again.