Professor Robert Carr Discusses Aztec New Mexico Crash of 1948

[WhiteFeather]

Just came across this interview, thought i would share this with The UFO Enthusiasts Here on Avalon. Excuse if this was posted prior. The discovery in February, 1948 of two flying saucers in northwestern New Mexico, near the town of Aztec. This is an older interview. I have never heard of Professor Robert Carr till today. Some Interesting Info Here with regards to The Aztec New Mexico UFO Crash of 1948. Some say this is "The Twin Brother Of The Roswell New Mexico Crash" of 1947,,,if you will.



It was Professor Carr who sent shock waves through the Pentagon and the Air Force when he accused the Air Force of not telling the truth about Flying Saucers. At a news conference in Tampa, Florida, Professor Carr said he had information that the Air Force had two flying saucers and the bodies of twelve (12) spacemen on ice in a refrigerated building at Wright Patterson Field in Dayton, Ohio.

At the Flying Saucer symposium Professor Carr talked for an hour about what he calls the "worst kept secret in the world." The discovery in February, 1948 of two flying saucers in northwestern New Mexico, near the town of Aztec.

It is known throughout the academic world, the medical world, it is known throughout the Air Force, and above all it is known throughout the CIA, ah, that the Air Intelligence at Wright Patterson Field has in its possession a spacecraft, thirty-one (31) feet in diameter, and it is entirely undamaged, except for a hole...small hole broken in the plastic dome...the transparent plastic dome that covered the cockpit. And because of this accident in space, the twelve small human beings....ah....died suddenly of decompression, in the purely mortal way that our...that the Russian astronauts perished last year in a similar accident of decompression during re-entry. They were not shot down by our fighter planes, they suffered an operational loss.

However, in this particular case, it was very fortunate that our alert radar net in the western states had the UFO on its screen. In fact, three radar stations were tracking an unidentified object at immense altitude and traveling at unbelievable speed when it stopped ...fluttered...went out of control...and fell, circling toward the earth. Because three radar stations were locked on it, they were able to triangulate the point at which it reached earth. That point was three miles west of the small town of Aztec, New Mexico, in the northern part of the state near the Colorado line.

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Full Disclose.tv Interview here 30:46 Run Time:
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/46631/Professor_Robert_Carr_Discloses_Aztec_UFO_Crash/



Youtube 4 Parts: Listing 1 of 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DTp7xA24WU&feature=relmfu

[Skywizard]

Just came across this interview, thought i would share this with The UFO Enthusiasts Here on Avalon. Excuse if this was posted prior. The discovery in February, 1948 of two flying saucers in northwestern New Mexico, near the town of Aztec. This is an older interview. I have never heard of Professor Robert Carr till today. Some Interesting Info Here with regards to The Aztec New Mexico UFO Crash of 1948. Some say this is "The Twin Brother Of The Roswell New Mexico Crash" of 1947,,,if you will.



WhiteFeather… just by watching (listening) to this video, for me, it was kind of hard to swallow. I guess it was how laid back he seemed to be or just how he told the story. Don’t know.

But I remember seeing or reading something about a second Roswell somewhere one time so I started digging. This is what I came up with:

In October and November 1949, Frank Scully published two columns in Variety, claiming that extraterrestrial beings were recovered from a flying saucer crash, based on what he said was reported to him by a scientist that was involved.

His 1950 book Behind the Flying Saucers expanded on the theme, adding that there had been three such incidents in New Mexico and one in Arizona, including one that crashed near Aztec, New Mexico in 1948.

Two men, Silas Newton and Leo DeBuer, a pair of oil con men were said to have hoaxed a gullible Scully on the story and later were actually convicted of fraud. (according to the videos)

By the mid-1950s most UFO investigators considered the subject thoroughly discredited and therefore avoided it. More recently (2011) The Aztec Incident by Scott and Suzanne Ramsey combines their own research with newer witness testimony and argues that the crash -- more accurately, an uncontrolled landing with minimal damage -- may indeed have occurred more or less as originally described by Scully.

I actually found some videos (6 - 10 min. parts) on You Tube and after just scanning through them (will watch later) makes it now a lot more creditable to me.

I’m just going to up load part 1, the other parts will appear on the video screen.

Videos are poor quality with sound not keeping up with their mouth. :o


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO9NATUvNyI&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_729510


Good thread WhiteFeather,
~skywizard

[KiwiElf]

I've read Scully's book several times and IMO it carries some merit, particularly the discussion on the value of 9's in relation to magnetic lines of force and the actual dimensions of the 3 crashed ships (all based on a system of nines, ie 36 ft, 72 ft and 99.99 ft). This was corroborated by Bruce Cathie in his book, Harmonic 33, and ties in with torroidal mathematics discussed in Thrive and a recent post here on Marko Rodin's Vortex-based mathematics, complex stuff that was unlikely to be known by Scully or scientist's of the time, to name but two.

The aliens allegedly recovered from these 3 ships were described as perfectly small humans (not greys), and all dead, some burned due to what was believed to be explosive decompression.

Related thread here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32039-Where-are-all-the-Crashed-UFOs----and-their-Alien-Occupants