Syria is heating up - Turkey force civil airplane to land, Jordan's border...

[Flash]

Syria's situation is heating up. Turkey has forced a civilian airplane leaving from Moscow to Syria to land in Turkey, Ankara, on suspicion of arms/missiles on board. At the other end, USA is sending troups in Jordan to help securise its border to Syria.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/turkey-forces-syrian-airplane-to-land-at-ankara-airport-1.990200


ANKARA, Turkey -- Turkish jets on Wednesday forced a Syrian passenger plane to land at Ankara airport on suspicion that it may be carrying weapons, Turkey's foreign minister said, amid heightened tensions between Turkey and Syria that have sparked fears of a wider regional conflict.

A Syrian Air Airbus A320 coming from Moscow was intercepted by F16 jets as it entered Turkish airspace and escorted to the capital's Esenboga Airport, the state-run TRT television reported
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U.S. Defence Secretary Leon Panetta said Wednesday that Washington has sent military troops to the Jordan-Syria border to help build a headquarters in Jordan and bolster that country's military capabilities in the event that violence escalates along its border with Syria.

The revelation raises the possibility of an escalation in the U.S. military involvement in the conflict, even as Washington pushes back on any suggestion of a direct intervention in Syria


And another article in The Telegraph where missile parts are mentioned.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9600178/Turkey-forces-Syrian-plane-to-land-in-Ankara.html

[Marrkuss]

Quotes from the telegraph !

<<Meanwhile, American officials confirmed that a detachment of 150 US troops is now operating in Jordan less than 35 miles from the Syrian border.

The troops are intended in the first instance to help Jordan, a key but fragile US ally, deal with the influx of refugees from the fighting across the northern border. They are also preparing for any action that might be needed to secure Syria’s chemical weapons in the event of the Assad regime losing control of them. >>

Made it sound like 2003 !

Operation EAGER Lion its named -.- geez couldnt the name be more obvious ? we dont want to get into conflict but lets name our operation EAGER lion

[Cidersomerset]

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Published on 11 Oct 2012 by RussiaToday


Humiliation, threats and brutal beatings - that's how some of those on board a Syria-bound plane describe the welcome they
received in Turkey. F-16 fighter jets were scrambled to ground the Moscow - Damascus flight. It was carrying over thirty
passengers, including small children


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Published on 10 Oct 2012 by RussiaToday


Turkish F16 fighter jets forced a Syrian airline passenger plane to land in Ankara
over suspicions it was carrying "non-civilian" cargo, says the Turkish Foreign Ministry.
The Damascus-bound plane, which had departed from Moscow, is being inspected

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Published on 10 Oct 2012 by RussiaToday


Don Debar, an anti-war activist and journalist says the incident with Syrian plane in
Turkey is a wake-up call signaling that NATO members are ready for open military confrontation.

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[Cidersomerset]

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Published on 11 Oct 2012 by RussiaToday


Turkey says the Syria-bound passenger plane, that was forced to land in Turkey, was carrying Russian-made munitions.
The Moscow airport that dispatched the flight insists there was no illegal cargo onboard. F-16 fighter jets intercepted the
flight on its way from Moscow to Damascus, which was carrying 37 people.

[Flash]

We have to understand that the military in Turkey are always quite edgy. They border with Iran, Irak, Syria, Ukraine, Russia. As they say, "we are in a corner of the world where neighbours are not very friendly". Furthermore, they have been a guerilla like war with the Kurdish population for years, and had many Kurdish "terrorist" attack from the eastern part of the country, bordering those Syria and Iran and Irak (I put in " because from the Kurdish point of view, it is quite different).

They haven't always been the best friend with Russia either. So, yes, they will be edgy. Do they obey USA, sometimes, but Turks can be very independent and hard headed as well and may carry intervention on their own volition.

When I was there, I was checked (purse and bags checked) and would go through metal detector and other detectors just for entering a shopping center. The car would often be check with mirrors underneath for bombs (all the car, not just mine). And this was in middle class neighboroods, imagine the affluent ones. TSA like behavior has been there forever.

So yes, they may get edgy and may take unilateral decision if something goes wrong.

Every man in Turkey has done compulsory military service which makes them think differently as well. Every doctor in Turkey has done compulsory 2-3 years service in the army in war medecine and war surgery which makes them the best doctors I ever met.

Levent Tonga may tell us much more if he desire so.

[math330]

Syria accuses Turkey of 'lying' about the arms shipment and demands that Erdogan shows the haul 'publicly' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19918858)

Russia now denying that the cargo came from them.

The more cynical amongst us could come to the conclusion that there was probably no defence equipment on board, and that this is all a front to escalate hostilities against Syria and Russia - the UN/NATO's reason to enter the conflict.

Interesting times, these.

[Tangri]

We have to understand that the military in Turkey are always quite edgy. They border with Iran, Irak, Syria, Ukraine, Russia. As they say, "we are in a corner of the world where neighbours are not very friendly". Furthermore, they have been a guerilla like war with the Kurdish population for years, and had many Kurdish "terrorist" attack from the eastern part of the country, bordering those Syria and Iran and Irak (I put in " because from the Kurdish point of view, it is quite different).

They haven't always been the best friend with Russia either. So, yes, they will be edgy. Do they obey USA, sometimes, but Turks can be very independent and hard headed as well and may carry intervention on their own volition.

When I was there, I was checked (purse and bags checked) and would go through metal detector and other detectors just for entering a shopping center. The car would often be check with mirrors underneath for bombs (all the car, not just mine). And this was in middle class neighboroods, imagine the affluent ones. TSA like behavior has been there forever.

So yes, they may get edgy and may take unilateral decision if something goes wrong.

Every man in Turkey has done compulsory military service which makes them think differently as well. Every doctor in Turkey has done compulsory 2-3 years service in the army in war medecine and war surgery which makes them the best doctors I ever met.

Levent Tonga may tell us much more if he desire so.
;) You are sweet Flash,

I was trying to stay away from this subject. Because it is so deep and few words can not be enough to explain it.
As you said, Turkey's geographic location is a very important. Turkey was a first deference line at the cold war for Western Country.
USA used this as a abusive opportunity toward Turkey for a long time.
During Americans Iraq invasion Turkey was ready to cooperate Northern attack. At one point of cooperation at Iskenderun( port of Turkey), some Mass destruction weaponry was detected in American force's inventory. Americans were trying to implant those weapons in Iraq but put in danger Turkish and northern Iraq people. It was the end of the honeymoon times of Americans and the abusive relation between Turkey and USA .
This time USA trying to get revenge, forcing Turkey to war a lone with Syria, and using its own trained Kurdish rebels to intimate , to provocation.
If Turkey get busy with another neighbor country it would not interfere to the possible (predictable) war at Iran's land caused by Israel . Subject is very complicated .
Love and Hope

[Cidersomerset]

We have to understand that the military in Turkey are always quite edgy. They border with Iran, Irak, Syria, Ukraine, Russia. As they say, "we are in a corner of the world where neighbours are not very friendly". Furthermore, they have been a guerilla like war with the Kurdish population for years, and had many Kurdish "terrorist" attack from the eastern part of the country, bordering those Syria and Iran and Irak (I put in " because from the Kurdish point of view, it is quite different).


Turkey has the same legacy as all the former imperial powers, with links and enemies all over the region. One important item you mention is the Kurdish problem that effects several countries.
Kurdistan is a historical region just as valid as Israel.But not much support in the UN . Which brings to mind, One mans 'Terrorist' is another mans 'Freedom Fighter' !....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Kurdish-inhabited_area_by_CIA_%281992%29.jpg/734px-Kurdish-inhabited_area_by_CIA_%281992%29.jpg

The 25 million Kurds are the largest ethnicity in the world without a state of its own. Promised - but never granted- their own country after WWI, Kurds now live in parts of Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Armenia and Azerbaijan. They are almost universally despised for asserting their identity. The government of Turkey spends US$6 billion a year fighting its Kurdish separatists. Saddam Hussein's Iraq has tried to wipe out its four million Kurds altogether: Some 300,000 Kurdish civilians "disappeared" between 1983 and 1987. Then Iraq launched a religious war against them (complete with chemical weapons), razing 4,000 villages and killing another 100,000 Kurds. Many of those who survived are now starving, thanks to the UN's embargo against Iraq.

http://selenasol.com/selena/struggle/kurds.html