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Cidersomerset

16th November 2012, 15:35

16 November 2012 Last updated at 14:40

DJ Dave Lee Travis says arrest not linked to children

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Dave Lee Travis appeared outside his home on Friday to speak to reporters

DJ Dave Lee Travis has said his arrest on suspicion of sexual offences is "nothing to do with kids" and denies any wrongdoing.The 67-year-old ex-Radio 1 DJ, of Mentmore, Buckinghamshire, spoke after he was taken off air with immediate effect by radio station Magic AM.He said he was "sad and disappointed" by the decision to take him off air. Mr Travis was arrested and bailed as part of the police probe arising from the Jimmy Savile scandal.He is due to return to answer police bail in early January, police said.Speaking to reporters on Friday outside his home, Mr Travis said his arrest was nothing to do with child abuse.

'Categorical denial'

"This is nothing to do with kids, all right? That's the first thing. Because that to me is the most important thing in the world and I do not wish to have my name sullied around something that bloody evil, to be honest."Yes, there's an ongoing police investigation about me and two grown women, all right? And this has to be completely clear with all of you."Any talk about children is, it's just incensing, all right? I am and always have been completely abhorred by anything to do with children and anything to do with child molestation and anything like that.
"I don't really want to be in a headline where people look and see Savile's name and see my name and think 'Oh God, is he at it as well?' Not true, all right? You have a categorical denial about children. That is absolutely set in concrete, I promise you.""It's just too easy to make allegations. I'm an easy target," he added. "Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?"Earlier, Magic AM said that it would be "inappropriate" for Mr Travis to broadcast until the investigation was resolved.

A spokeswoman for Bauer Media, which owns Magic AM, said: "Following the arrest and release on police bail of Dave Lee Travis, Bauer Media has decided to take him off air with immediate effect from his Magic AM weekend shows, which broadcast across the north of England."We understand that the allegations about which he was questioned by police pre-date his time as a freelance contributor to Magic AM."While we can make no judgement on the matters under investigation, we believe it would be inappropriate for him to broadcast until they are resolved."The Metropolitan Police say their investigation - Operation Yewtree - into alleged abuse by Savile and others has so far recorded 200 allegations of sexual assault.They have also identified about 450 potential victims of sexual abuseThe arrest of Mr Travis is the fourth so far in connection with the Savile investigation.

'TOTP postponed'

However, in a statement on Thursday, the Met, who did not name Mr Travis, said

their latest arrest "falls under the strand of the investigation we have termed 'Others'", meaning the allegations are unrelated to Savile.But the force said that the "vast majority" of the 450 possible victims were alleging sexual abuse by former BBC TV presenter and DJ Savile, who died last year aged 84.Mr Travis - known by the nicknames DLT and the Hairy Cornflake - is best known for his 25-year stint on Radio 1 which ended in 1993.Mr Travis also presented editions of Top of the Pops in the 1970s and 1980s.The BBC postponed the transmission of an edition of Top of the Pops from 1977 hosted by Mr Travis that was due to be shown on BBC Four on Thursday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20358716

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Published on 16 Nov 2012 by Channel4News

Radio presenter Dave Lee Travis tells reporters his arrest by police investigating abuse by Jimmy Savile and others is "nothing to do with kids" and is "about me and two grown women".

Billy

16th November 2012, 15:40

Jimmy Savile's Highland House to be demolished. http://www.scotsman.com/news/scottish-news/top-stories/jimmy-savile-s-highland-cottage-will-only-be-demolished-as-last-resort-1-2632580

By REBECCA MONKS
Published on Wednesday 14 November 2012 17:28

AS THE late Jimmy Savile’s Glencoe cottage continues to be vandalised, a Highland councillor insists that demolishing the property is a last resort.

• Vandals have painted the building with “abusive slogans”

• Jimmy Savile Charitable Trust had plans to turn cottage into a respite care centre for the disabled

• All plans have been postponed as the investigation is underway

• Locals are calling for the property to be demolished

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mahalall

16th November 2012, 16:39

Politicians, judges and police chiefs who allegedly abused care home children in North Wales dodged justice because most were freemasons, claims victim Keith Gregory on BBC Radio 5 Live.

"most of them were freemasons, with a sense of loyalty above and beyond morality, and beyond basic decency"

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Corncrake

16th November 2012, 18:07

The tentacles of these awful crimes spread far. Newsnight was one of the best hard hitting news programmes on the BBC and now is has been effectively castrated. This tightening the thumbscrews started in the Thatcher era and continues today. For the wrong man to have been named (although it was actually implied) was shoddy journalism but this has now put the journalistic breaks on the whole investigation. Everyone is running scared. I welcomed the Leveson Enquiry but while I wanted it to restrict the lewd investigations of tabloid journalists I didn't want any restraints put on serious journalism. Some weighty articles do turn up in the MSM but I think we will have to rely more and more on alternative media like the two blogs Eni-al posted above. I follow a lot of my favourite journalists on Twitter and now threats are being tossed around about censorship there.

Kiforall

16th November 2012, 19:32

Go with the second option of Iceland.

For petition, should be pretty simple, depending on what site. There is also change.org. Just got to sign up or start the petition from and it should be straightforward instructions, should not need much experience.
UK should be ready, if not, we'll never be.
We got the whole scandals from the banks, PPI, LIBOR, the paedophile ring of the past decades (and likely ongoing) alongside its cover-ups, broken promises etc, previous governments to blame for so much, but regardless it shows that no one can really be trusted currently to run the country.

By the way, this has been going about on twitter.
http://links.occupythebanks.com/d65f0d43cf7a0ce1/?web=02902e&dst=http%3A//scallywagmagazine.blogspot.co.uk/

It looks like The British Constitution Group are on with it at the moment.;)

Thank God, I was wondering if I set up a petition I'd be taken out lol.

"Magna Carta 2015" A New Governing Body.

http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/

Cidersomerset

16th November 2012, 20:06

Sir David Bell and the public’s right to know
By Daily Mail Comment
PUBLISHED:00:40, 16 November 2012| UPDATED:09:55, 16 November 2012

Yesterday Lord McAlpine, his frail voice crackling with anguish, described how BBC Newsnight’s false child abuse allegations against him had created a ‘legacy that can’t be repaired’.

‘It gets into your bones,’ the Tory peer said. ‘It makes you angry ... and it gets into your soul and you just think there’s something wrong with the world.’

Unsurprisingly, this terrible slur – based on misinformation supplied to the BBC by the Bureau of Investigative Journalism – has had tumultuous consequences.

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The Mail can reveal that Sir David Bell is a leading member of an incestuous body called Common Purpose which has links to two other Leveson assessors

The Director General has resigned, the BBC, its reputation for journalistic integrity shattered, is in chaos and countless individuals, including members of the BIJ, face paying substantial libel damages.

Which is why the Mail believes there is over-riding public interest in our decision to publish today an investigation into Sir David Bell, who is one of the trustees of the BIJ, and more pertinently into his role as assessor to the Leveson Inquiry into press standards.

For today we reveal that Bell is a leading member of an incestuous body called Common Purpose which has direct or indirect links to two other Leveson assessors.

It was Common Purpose’s founder who, with Bell, set up the Media Standards Trust which has played such a prominent role in the Leveson Inquiry.

It was the Media Standards Trust, chaired by Bell, which set up Hacked Off – whose luminaries include those sexual incontinents Max Mosley, Hugh Grant and Steve Coogan – and boasts, with justification, of substantially broadening the remit of the Leveson Inquiry.

It was also Bell’s Media Standards Trust which conducted a scurrilously shoddy report on the Press Complaints Commission and awarded a prestigious journalism prize to a writer who, it emerged, had made up his articles.

Indeed, the Mail’s investigation paints a picture of how a small, intertwined nexus of Left-of-centre individuals – some with links to Ofcom, the media regulator, and virtually all with links to Bell – have sought to exert huge influence on the inquiry.

We also reveal that Bell is a trustee of a charitable trust that has donated huge sums of money to the Media Standards Trust that he set up.

All of which we believe raises profoundly disturbing questions about the suitability of Bell as an assessor and the impact this may have had on the objectivity and neutrality of the inquiry itself.

The Mail is acutely aware of the seriousness of publishing this investigation. We know all too well that our enemies will accuse us of being aggressively defensive in a bid to pre-empt the outcome of the Leveson report, which is due any week now.

But in the light of the scandal engulfing the BBC, we passionately believe in the public’s right to know about a senior Leveson assessor’s role in it.
Let us stress that Lord Justice Leveson has no links to Common Purpose and is a man of integrity who has conducted his inquiry with impartiality.
However we make no apology for carrying this investigation. Newspapers have a duty to ask embarrassing questions about the powerful and the self-important people who know best.

The Mail has one final observation: if some form of statutory regulation is introduced because of Leveson, you can bet your life it will be elitist liberals such as Bell who decide what is in the ‘public interest’ and what newspapers should be allowed to print.

The consequences of this for both a press that has been free of political control for over 300 years and the public’s right to know doesn’t bear thinking about.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2233709/Sir-David-Bell-publics-right-know.html

Cidersomerset

16th November 2012, 20:22

A reminder for those looking in this is a global problem !!

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Interesting, but shocking German documentary that delves into three cases of child abuse in France. Three victims, 'Deborah', 'Robbert' and 'Noemi' tell about their experiences of abuse, and how they were molested in a pedophile network. Rumours about these pedophile networks are not uncommon. The Casa Pia case in Portugal, the Dutroux case in Belgium, the Franklin affair in the USA and the Zandvoort affair in the Netherlands to name but a few- in all these cases there have been allegations of cover-ups and involvement of people in high societal standing, and investigations seldom lead to a satisfactory result- the Portuguese Casa Pia scandal, where politicians and a national tv-show host were actually convicted, being the proverbial black swan. Noemi, in this documentary, claims to have met Marc Dutroux, the Belgian pedophile who was convicted for kidnapping and killing several girls in the late 1990's, through her father. If this is true, it is explosive evidence of the case reaching beyond national borders, something that has always been suspected by researchers. The two girls and the boy's stories are horrible beyond imagination- not only involving abuse, but also child-murders, infant sacrifices and instances of cannibalism. It's tempting to dismiss their stories as the product of imagination, given the trauma they have been through, but it should be stated that these testimonies are very similar to what the 'X-witnesses' in the Dutroux affair claimed. There is an ...

http://article.wn.com/view/2011/02/23/German_incest_suspects_wife_refuses_to_testify_7/

Cidersomerset

16th November 2012, 20:29

8:50am, Fri 16 Nov 2012Former Bishop Released
New allegations in sex abuse inquiry
Last updated Fri 16 Nov 2012

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Rt Rev Peter Ball Credit: PA
Police investigating allegations of sex offences against boys and young men by a retired Church of England bishop said seven more people have come forward claiming they were abused.

The Rt Rev Peter Ball, 80, was arrested at his home near Langport, Somerset, on Tuesday on suspicion of sex offences against eight boys and young men aged from 12 to their early 20s in East Sussex and elsewhere in the late 1970s and 1990s, sources said.Since his arrest, Sussex Police said a further seven people have come forward making allegations of abuse against them.A number of people have also stepped forward with potentially useful information, although not alleging that offences had been committed against them.Mr Ball, a former Bishop of Lewes who resigned as Bishop of Gloucester in 1993, was released at his home on the afternoon of his arrest on medical advice. Police will now question him at a later date.He was arrested at around the same time as a second clergyman, an unnamed 67-year-old retired priest, who was held at his home near Haywards Heath, West Sussex, on suspicion of separate sex offences against two male teenagers aged 17 and 18 in East Sussex between 1981 and 1983.Police said three more people have alleged abuse by him since his arrest, mainly in Sussex. He has been freed on police bail until November 29, pending further inquiries.

Detectives said they were interested to hear from anyone else as part of their inquiry, codenamed Operation Dunhill, saying that every report was being followed up.

http://www.itv.com/news/west/update/2012-11-16/new-allegations-in-sex-abuse-inquiry/

Taurean

17th November 2012, 10:07

Lord McAlpine speaks of 'horrendous shock' of BBC child sex allegations

So why wasn't the Conservative Party treasurer in the Thatcher era equally 'horrendously shocked', and why didn't he therefore sue, when similar allegations involving North Wales children's homes were published by Scallywag magazine in the 1990s and he was the subject of a banner headline to that effect - and more?

I don't understand. The Scallywag article could not have been more explicit. And why does he say that it was an 'horrendous shock' to hear these allegations when similar ones have been published before and he did NOTHING?

McAlpine was an extremely rich man and in the 1990s he was an even more prominent public figure. He could have put Scallywag out of business if he had showed in court that its allegations were not true and this would have nailed the allegations for good and stopped them circulating on the Internet ever since (without a single challenge from 'me Lord'). The same with Margaret Thatcher aide and speechwriter, Derek 'me' Laud.

McAlpine says he is seeking damages from all and bloody sundry now and yet did nothing when the same allegations were made by Scallywag all those years ago. So please, Lord McAlpine, credibly explain why you didn't.

In the light of this, I trust the currently trembling jelly fish of the chattering classes are going to grow a backbone?

If you come in this direction demanding money, guest house owner, you can shove it, McAlpine.

I'll see you in court first. Laud and many others in the Thatcher years can clear their diary.

P.S. By the way, you have said that you only visited Wrexham once in your 70 years and never stayed overnight - but how many times have you visited Chester 13 miles away? Could you clarify that, Lord McAlpine, just out of interest?

Thank you.

Toodle-pip.

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines

Kiforall

18th November 2012, 01:46

It's all bully boy tactics.
It works on the young children they abuse, unfortunately it aint going work with people like David.
When are all the arses going to realize it's justice time for them?
Did they really think they could get away with what they had done and probably still doing...Reality check.

Zoe

avid

18th November 2012, 19:40

Having read this today:
http://www.davidicke.com/articles/child-abuse-mainmenu-74/75544-paedophile-rings--and-10-downing-street
- without multi-facetted links - we really have to dig up the filth in our pre-programmed and blackmailable 'establishment'. Can anyone get into high office unless they are 'rotten', or who have been MADE ROTTEN?
There are some who doth protest too much (without actually being named) - that poor chap Mr Messham was surely threatened....
Destroyed files about Cyril Smith "not in the public interest" - PUHLEASE!!!!
I read loads of allegations against the Bushes, Cheney et al years ago - is this endemic across the PTB? Another "Eyes Wide Shut" scenario.:mad2:

Cidersomerset

18th November 2012, 20:45

World News - Lord McAlpine 'Twibel' case

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Cidersomerset

18th November 2012, 21:34

DAILY MAIL ONLINE.............

By Mark Duell

PUBLISHED:10:00, 4 November 2012| UPDATED:14:40, 4 November 2012

Savile's sickening confession in his own memoir:

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'I have sunk into a chair, wringing wet with the heat and temptation.
A rustling and snapping from the dark end tells me that the swimsuit is off'

Jimmy Savile

Sick: Jimmy Savile made the shocking claims in his 1974 Barrie & Jenkins book As It Happens

'I said I'd do the event if I could sleep in a tent with six girls.
They arrived in matching miniskirts and boots and looked good enough to eat'
He spent night with six girls wearing matching mini-skirts and white boots
They 'fell about and over each other, making enough noise to wake dead'
Savile describes being spotted on beach by girl who took off clothes for him
New stories have come to light in his out-of-print 1974 book As It Happens
Meanwhile Leeds University could strip Savile of his honorary law doctorate
And crime experts call for probe into presenter's links to Yorkshire Ripper
It's claimed Savile even advised Prince Charles on senior aide's appointment
Savile 'hoarded toys left by public in Diana's memory meant for sick children'

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Disgraced presenter: Savile (left) and the girls 'fell about and over each other',
he claimed in the memoir. The antics happened at an unknown location in Yorkshire (file picture,)

Jimmy Savile once spent the night in a tent on a hillside with six girls wearing
matching mini-skirts and white boots as ‘payment’ for taking part in a charity
event, he wrote in an out-of-print memoir.The shamed TV star and the girls
‘fell about and over each other, making enough noise to wake the dead’ at a
location in Yorkshire, he said in his 1974 Barrie & Jenkins book As It Happens.
Savile, who died last year in Leeds aged 84, also recalled being recognised on
a beach by a girl, who began to take off her swimsuit inside her caravan for him,
leaving him ‘wringing wet with heat and temptation’, until her parents entered.

He claimed a council chairman called him as he wanted the annual mayoral ball
to become a youth dance, because the event had previously only attracted a few
hundred locals in the past.The presenter told the chairman: ‘I will come if you
will arrange for me to sleep in a tent up the local hillside with another tent
alongside with six girls to sleep there as my bodyguards.He added: ‘My
demands really put the dance on the map and 2,000 tickets went like hot cakes.
'My ultimatum of “no tents, no girls, no me” meant the council had to go through with it.’

A newspaper advert was placed for young girls

to spend the night with him, and he claimed that hundreds applied, reported the Sunday Mirror.
Savile even said the unknown council called a meeting to decide which six girls to use,
and half of the members left in disbelief at the discussion.Savile described the girls as

‘good enough to eat’ and he had an ‘incredible evening’.

But the father of one girl realised what was happening before the event started and dragged his
daughter home.Later on that evening Savile claimed the ‘girls’ tent fell over and we all had
to finish up together’.He also wrote in the book about being recognised on a beach by a girl,
who invited into him into her family’s caravan while his two minders stayed with her parents,
reported the Sunday Mirror.Savile said the girl began to undress. He wrote: ‘I have sunk into
a chair, wringing wet with the heat and temptation. A rustling and snapping from the dark
end tells me that the swimsuit is off.'He said her parents suddenly entered the caravan - but
the situation was ‘saved’ as the girl quickly slid into a dress and pretended to make tea.

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Friendship: Savile (left) was said to be so close to Prince Charles (right) that he advised him
on the appointment of Sir Christopher Airy as his private secretary in 1990. The duo are
pictured together in 1999

Meanwhile, Savile was said to be so close to Prince Charles that he advised him on the
appointment of Sir Christopher Airy as his private secretary in 1990, it was claimed
today by the Sunday Times.Savile and Charles met former major-general Airy before
he was offered the post, portraying an extraordinary close friendship between the heir
to the throne and the disgraced TV star.'Savile was in and out of the palace at that time
pretty frequently,' a source said. 'His bling and his tracksuits made him rather
unconventional and I think that was appealing to Prince Charles.’Ex-royal press
secretary Dickie Arbiter said Savile was a ‘brought in by an aide as a sort of
“Jim’ll Fix It” to fix the state of the marriage’ of Prince Charles and Princess Diana,
‘but of course it didn’t work’.it had no record of Savile being at Airy’s interview.
Airy refused to comment.

St James’s Palace The Savile scandal first arose when ITV broadcast new sex abuse
allegations in a documentary about the late presenter on October 3, which sparked
a mammoth police inquiry.Intense scrutiny over the BBC followed, after the Corporation
dropped a Newsnight report into the presenter’s actions last year after his death.
Savile is believed to have been one of the UK's most prolific abusers, with about 300
possible victims. Scotland Yard is leading a probe into his activities, with detectives
following 400 lines of inquiry.Comedian Freddie Starr and former pop star Gary Glitter,
whose real name is Paul Gadd, have both been questioned by officers investigating the
abuse scandal.A number of alleged victims claim they were abused by Savile while
pupils at Duncroft Approved School in Surrey during the 1970s.Savile's estate,
reportedly worth £4.3million, has been frozen in response to the allegations.
NatWest Bank, which is acting as his executor and trustee, said the distribution of his
assets had been put on hold in anticipation of legal action from his alleged victims.

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Plastic bag: Savile was said to have left toys meant for sick children for years at his flat in the grounds
of Stoke Mandeville Hospital in Buckinghamshire. Proof of the hoard was captured in a picture taken in 1999

SAVILE 'HOARDED DIANA MEMORIAL TOYS MEANT FOR SICK CHILDREN'

Savile's reputation was hit again after claims he hoarded toys left by the public in memory of Princess Diana - which were meant for sick children - in his hospital flat in green bin bags.The toys had been placed among thousands of floral tributes outside the gates of Kensington Palace in west London. Royal aides decided the toys should be given to sick children in Diana’s memory.But Savile was said to have left them for years at his flat in the grounds of Stoke Mandeville Hospital in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire.Instead of passing them around, the toys languished in his flat for at least two years. Proof of the hoard was captured in a picture taken in 1999, two years after Diana’s death.A Stoke Mandeville Hospital source said: ‘I am sure that the public will be shocked to hear that Savile could not be bothered to give the donated toys to the sick child patients.’
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CALLS FOR PROBE INTO WHETHER SAVILE WAS LINKED TO RIPPER

Jimmy Savile was today astonishingly linked to the Yorkshire Ripper's killings, after it was revealed the third victim Irene Richardson was murdered yards from his home in Leeds.Savile was a regular visitor to Broadmoor psychiatric hospital and befriended Peter Sutcliffe, now 66, after he was moved there.Britain’s top expert on serial killers said police should probe whether the pair developed a friendship before Sutcliffe was caught – and the family of the Ripper's first victim have joined calls for officers to question Savile.Former prison officer Professor David Wilson of Birmingham City University told the Sun: ‘At first sight the suggestion that Savile might be connected with the crimes committed by Sutcliffe will seem farfetched.
‘Yet predatory paedophiles and serial killers are the awful products of common forces which, in their case, were allowed to develop unchecked.'Richard McCann, 42, son of the Ripper’s first victim Wilma McCann, added that if an expert has called for a probe into Sutcliffe’s relationship with Savile, then it should happen.
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Jimmy Savile's nephew speaks out about his 'monster' uncle

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Cidersomerset

18th November 2012, 22:43

Are Secretive Cabals Keeping Us in the Dark Over UK Child Abuse?

Sunday, 18 November 2012 10:04

D.Icke.com

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'Another previously buried report of organised paedophilia in North Wales has turned up – fears
that revelations could lead to the authorities being sued – again. It’s the same pattern of key
evidence and key witnesses NOT being included in these Inquiries and Hearings.

It prompts the question: what else hasn’t been included as evidence? Was evidence destroyed?
More key incriminating evidence in the North Wales scandal has been reported as ‘lost’ by the
police. This appears to be generally acceptable for the government, seeing that no counter
investigation was launched to find out who has been ‘losing’ all this important evidence.

It’s also known that former Deputy Director of the Bryn Alyn boys home, Des Frost, was NOT
called as a witness, despite being one of the men who had originally reported abuse at the home to the police.'

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/75559-are-secretive-cabals-keeping-us-in-the-dark-over-uk-child-abuse

Cidersomerset

18th November 2012, 23:12

DAILY MAIL on line....18th Nov 2012

Niece 'molested' by Savile 'driven to suicide' by Facebook taunts as claims emerge the TV star preyed on girls in cathedral
Caroline Robinson said she was molested twice by her famous great-uncle, once aged 12 and again three years later
Claims that she was abused on Facebook after going public with allegationsTold how she was 'driven to attempt suicide' by taunts

By Daily Mail Reporter
PUBLISHED:02:20, 18 November 2012 | UPDATED:14:32, 18 November 2012

The great niece of Jimmy Savile has told how she was driven to the brink of suicide by the Facebook backlash after claiming
she was one of the TV star's victims. Caroline Robinson, 49, spoke out last month about how she had been abused twice by
her great uncle, who was best known for his Jim'll Fix It TV show, by the time she was 15.But Ms Robinson, whose late
grandmother Marjorie Marsden was Savile's older sister, has received a barrage of abuse from other Facebook users after
going public with her claims.She last night told how she was driven to attempting an overdose before her husband David
Robinson, 65, found her at their home near Leyburn, North Yorkshire, and talked her out of it.Mrs Robsinson told the Daily
Star on Sunday: 'One part of me wishes that I had never said a word and taken my secret to the grave. I really wanted to
end it all, 'Now I know why so many victims of abuse stay silent.'

One Facebook user accused her of lying - adding that there was a 'nice long line of people wanting to smack' her after
she told how Savile had abused her.
Another wrote it was a 'load of b*******' while another said her claims 'were beyong belief'.
Her husband last night said her abusers should 'be ashamed of themselves' after his wife was driven to attempting an
overdose because of their comments.Retired engineer Mr Robinson said: 'Outwardky she has been putting on a brave
face but behind closed doors she has been a mess.'The couple's ordeal come as new reports of Savile abusing schoolgirls
in the vestry of a Catholic cathedral have emerged.A former schoolgirl told the Sunday Mirror that there were rumours
that the TV star had abused a girl in the vestry at Leeds Cathedral and that pupils at her nearby primary school were
told not to sit near Savile when they visited the church in the 1960s. She said: 'As we trooped in he would be waiting.
He would turn and grin.'We were told to sit away from him because of talk he had taken a girl into the vestry.
'He was there every week. I remember him being shifty and grinning, I found him creepy.'
A spokesman for Leeds Cathedral said: 'There was a school which took children to the cathedral in the late 1960s.
But we have no record of any complaint made against Jimmy Savile.' It comes as police investigate 300 cases of
alleged abuse by Savile across three decades.

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SAVILE NIECE 'DRIVEN TO' SUICIDE BID

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Children in Need shakes off Jimmy Savile sex abuse scandal to raise £26m for charity
Charity defies recession to beat 2011 sum

Rise is despite sex scandals dogging broadcaster

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Cidersomerset

18th November 2012, 23:29

Daily Mirror online.....

By Simon Wright

"I remember him being shifty and grinning": Jimmy Savile 'abused schoolgirls in cathedral vestry'
18 Nov 2012 00:00

Witness says DJ lay in wait for pupils every week and was banned from cathedral
Jimmy Savile abused schoolgirls in the vestry of a Catholic cathedral, new testimony claims.
In an appalling new low, the disgraced star is said to have lain in wait at a weekly Mass
attended by girls aged between five and nine.An ex-pupil of the school involved, who wishes
to remain anonymous, says Savile – given a papal knighthood by the Pope in 1990 – was
banned from the cathedral in his home city of Leeds over claims he molested girls there.
The woman says pupils at her nearby primary school, now closed, were told by teachers
not to sit near Savile, who always arrived before them when they visited Leeds Cathedral
in the 1960s. She says there were rumours at the time that the DJ, whose flat was nearby,
abused a young girl in the vestry only yards from unsuspecting priests.

“I remember it so very clearly,” she says. “As we trooped in he would be waiting. He would
turn and grin. We were told to sit away from him, because of talk he had taken a girl into
the vestry. Despite that, teachers and priests let him stay.“He was there every week. I
remember him being shifty and grinning. I found him creepy.“We’d all heard the rumours
about him taking girls into the vestry.“After a while, he was told he couldn’t stay. It makes
me shudder I was so close to him.”

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1441940.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/+££££££Statue+of+the+Virgin+Mary+at+Leeds+Cathedral

A spokesman for Leeds Cathedral said: “There was a school which took children to the
cathedral in the late 60s. But we have no record of any complaint made against Jimmy
Savile nor any record of him being banned. Having said that, it is a long time ago.
We urge anyone with information to contact the police.”Police are investigating 300
cases of alleged abuse by Savile. A source said: “Just when you thought it couldn’t
get any worse, it does.”We can also reveal that Savile, who died last October aged 84,
kept a room decorated in pink at a London hotel in the 60s. A ex-staff member said
the suite at the now-closed Aaland Hotel in Bloomsbury had “pink wallpaper, carpet,
bedspreads and a pink toilet.”The woman, now 68, said: “Groups of girls would arrive
with their satchels. He picked one out, saying: ‘I’ll have you’. I have no doubt that
he was sexually assaulting them.”There is no suggestion the owner or management
knew the alleged abuse was taking placeMeanwhile, an ITV show will be aired on
Wednesday on how Savile became “untouchable” at the BBC.

Photos on link...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jimmy-savile-abused-girls-in-catholic-1442642

Gardener

19th November 2012, 01:38

Sounds to me like veiled threats to scare people off from saying anything at all, keep your trap shut or we will be after you. One wonders why he never took issue with a certain person!!! And....how can anyone be so certain that his lordship is as squeaky clean as he says he is, just because he says so............

World News - Lord McAlpine 'Twibel' case

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Cidersomerset

19th November 2012, 02:13

Sounds to me like veiled threats to scare people off from saying anything at all, keep your trap shut or we will be after you. One wonders why he never took issue with a certain person!!! And....how can anyone be so certain that his lordship is as squeaky clean as he says he is, just because he says so............

Exactly , and the assumtion that the Lawyers will make money out of this , in his referance to a "legal cottage industry ".....The Lawyers always come out on top !!

Cidersomerset

19th November 2012, 12:19

19 November 2012 Last updated at 11:53

BBC crisis: Lord McAlpine to seek ITV payout

Lord McAlpine will seek a larger payout from ITV than the £185,000 he got from the BBC, his lawyers have confirmed.

They contacted ITV after presenter Phillip Schofield presented the prime minister with a list of alleged abusers live on the This Morning programme.

ITV said disciplinary action had been taken following the incident.

The BBC settled with Lord McAlpine over his libel claim about a Newsnight report that led to him being wrongly implicated in child abuse.

The damages, agreed 13 days after the broadcast, totalled £185,000 plus costs.

Broadcasting watchdog Ofcom has launched an investigation into the incident on ITV1's This Morning.

An ITV spokesman said: "We have received correspondence from Lord McAlpine's representatives and we will be responding in due course."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20395647

November 19, 2012 11:30
McAlpine demands more from ITV

Lawyers for Lord McAlpine are seeking a larger payout from ITV than the £185,000 they received from the BBC last week, they have confirmed.

http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/uk-news/2012/11/19/mcalpine-demands-more-from-itv/

mahalall

19th November 2012, 13:17

Is Lord Mc Alpine adopting the Scallywag Model?

The Scallywag Magazine was written by the late Simon Regan. The magazine was published in London between 1991 and 1995. It sought to publish controversial journalism which other satirical and investigative publications (such as Private Eye) would not publish due to fear of litigation. Scallywag became a news story in itself in 1993 when it stoked a rumour that John Major, then Prime Minister, was having an affair with Clare Latimer, who was a freelance cook who helped with state dinners at 10 Downing Street. A story in the New Statesman showed how the rumours had been covertly mentioned in mainstream papers. When Major heard of the New Statesman story he sued both them and Scallywag for libel; he also sued the distributors and printers of both papers, which contributed to nearly driving the New Statesman out of business.
Clare Latimer later claimed that "Mr Major used her as a "decoy" to prevent what would have been the more politically damaging exposure of the affair he had with Edwina Currie from 1984 to 1988."

Given what the Scallywag magazine wrote of Lord McAlpine (3/4) it does lead one to speculate that could the Children's home in Wrexham be used as a Claire Latimer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Regan
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2286916.stm
(3) http://scallywagmagazine.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/scallywag-magazine-article-on-lord.html
(4) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-e7CLmmhaPr8/UKNl2JcTxTI/AAAAAAAAAAY/uqMIX0ItVx8/s1600/mcalpine_1.jpg

Cidersomerset

19th November 2012, 20:12

Hey, Tweeters Galore ... You Are Not Going To Let This Arrogant Man's Intimidation Turn You To Jelly Are You?
Monday, 19 November 2012 10:59

By David Icke

Come on, backbone and scrotum, if you please. Who the **** is he?

You can either capitulate or run and hide, or millions worldwide can tweet and re-tweet the same thing and what could they do? I am just pointing out the obvious choices - capitulate, hide or have some self-respect.

Do you want Twitter to have any balls and freedom or see them both cut off and the whole thing become impotent and irrelevant like the BBC?

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/75592-hey-tweeters-galore-you-are-not-going-to-let-this-arrogant-mans-intimidation-turn-you-to-jelly-are-you

norman

19th November 2012, 20:57

OMG, I fell for his 'innocent old chap" act big time.

19365

eni-al

19th November 2012, 22:50

One thing about all the McAlpine situation, he declares himself innocent, denies involvement with the children's home or being there more than once, sues and is suing again which so far is two companies and unknown amount of individuals, and lots of people believe him, and take his side. Innocent till proven guilty sure, but he is not proven innocent yet either. I thought people were becoming less trustworthy these days? Seems lots can all trust a (ex)politicians word.
Things are being twisted, covered up and McAlpine and his lawyers are heading it all. Maybe he could be innocent of allegations, but is trying to divert attention away from any other politician or rich and influential person, by putting out fear of being sued, so more people may think anyone else accused of paedophilia will also sue.

Cidersomerset

19th November 2012, 23:01

norman

19th November 2012, 23:32

Things are being twisted, covered up, and McAlpine and his lawyers are heading it all. Maybe he could be innocent of allegations, but is trying to divert attention away from any other politician or rich and influential person, by putting out fear of being sued, so more people may think anyone else accused of pedophilia will also sue.

[ Or even turn the tide of freedom to compare notes and observations via the internet.:smash: ]

He's clearly not in good health and doesn't have very long to go on worrying about getting found out ( if he is actually guilty, I'm not certain that he is ).

If he and his peers can make a significant change in the weather regarding the freedom in the public domain to say things and openly try to join dots etc, they will gain strength and mutual security from it. Whoever else there is, even higher up the toxic food chain, engaged in sick abuse, will be eternally grateful to him.

In his media interview, McAlpine publicly acknowledged that Meesham had accused him of sexual abuse, even though, up to that point, Meesham had not publicly named him directly. So.............

Why is his attitude to Meesham so completely opposite to his attitude to everyone else, when it was he who made the first and "devastating" allegation?

Did he threaten him before he suddenly saw his first photo of the 'lord', in a couple of decades ( quite unbelievable, in my opinion ), and changed his tune?

That book of McAlpine's, " The New Machiavelli ", is such a huge and rancid fart in his own church of innocence.

What a composite smell of smoke and fish. Or maybe it's kippers for tea tonight.

witchy1

20th November 2012, 11:14

How about material indicative of paedophilia?

"In May 2003 the London Evening Standard reported that Lord McAlpine was the 'well-known and anonymous collector (http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/lord-mcalpine-wrongly-linked-to-child.html#)' for whom Bloomsbury Book Auctions was selling a collection of 344 'fashion and eroticism' photographs, including '10 snaps of very young girls in very suggestive poses by Graham Ovenden'.

"McAlpine erotic sell-off", ''Evening Standard'', May 23 2003, p10"

"Graham Ovenden is on a Ministry of Justice list of suppliers of material indicative of paedophilia - p.11"

Public Protection Manual Chapter 11 ... - Ministry of Justice (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.justice.gov.uk%2Fdownloads%2Foffenders%2Fpublic-protection-manual%2F100048A0Chapter11InappropriateMaterialsGuidance2009.pdf&ei=mT-dUN2QKK-S0QWin4DYDQ&usg=AFQjCNE0MXv27Gql9w_QhkWW4GKOrO2ugQ&sig2=jO6RbN-3N1tGDjOuvOv4lg)

Good site here: http://aangirfan.blogspot.com.au/

Cidersomerset

20th November 2012, 11:42

Thanks Witchy, what we know is Steve Meesham is very vulnerable and has been exposing this for over 20 years with others. It would not take
a lot for the police to scare him by saying are you sure ? if you are wrong you could end up with a fine you could not pay and end up in jail..

We know most rich and famous people can buy justice. Being able to afford the best lawyers/barristers gives you a distict advantage, look at
OJ Simpson , Michael Jackson and many others. Nothing illegal about it, just the way the system has developed in the anglo/saxon justice
system. The establishment don't like scandels and cover up what they can.There is not usually smoke without fire so lets see if some
of our now diminished journalists/ media & detectives cannot start piecing things from the beggining.They have far more resources than
we have by definition,so lets hope a breed of investigative journalists can come out of the scandels of the last 20 years.

There are very brave journalists like Bobert Green, Brian Gerrish, David Icke, Alex Jones,John Pilger,pie & mash films & recently Amber Lyon
and many others that know the background but are not corporate media yes men!!

I just saw this quote from a different opressed era !!

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/November201290/61416_467260733325671_2004193534_n.jpg

witchy1

20th November 2012, 11:50

Keith Gregory said he thought a different member of the McAlpine family who lived locally mayhave been mistaken for Lord McAlpine.

Local concillor Keith Gregory said boys from Bryn Estyn would be taken to the homes of two McAlpine family members in the area - Gerwyn Hall and Marchwiel Hall, both a few miles from Wrexham town centre.

Gerwyn Hall was occupied by Jimmie McAlpine, who died in 1991, six years before the Waterhouse inquiry began.
http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/lord-mcalpine-wrongly-linked-to-child.html#

Cidersomerset

20th November 2012, 11:50

YES ... round of applause for The Sun - words I never thought I would ever write ...

Tuesday, 20 November 2012 10:49

By David Icke

Plotters with a Common Purpose - To Gag The Press: Jimmy Savile Scandal Opens Up A Can of Worms For Leveson

(Except that there is no 'leftie' in a one-party state - 'Left', 'Right' and 'Centre' are all masks on the same face)

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/November201290/tape-over-mouth.jpg

This is what they want to do to the mainstream media, social media and alternative media - and everything happening at the moment is part of this.

Connect the dots mainstream media while you still can.

Read more ...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4649364/The-leftie-plotters-with-one-Common-Purposeto-gag-the-Press.html

Cidersomerset

20th November 2012, 11:54

Tuesday, 20 November 2012 10:55

By David Icke

'Indeed, Savile was knighted when his abuse was well underway and the Queen should have distanced herself
and the royal family from the pedophile immediately after allegations of his pervert activities to ward off unwanted
speculation.However, there has been no comment by the Queen herself, her office or the royal family as if she
knew of the Savile’s scandalous behaviour and decided to decorate him regardless.'Even more than that, Savile,
the strange and seedy mega paedophile and child procurer for the rich and famous, had very regular access to
the royal inner sanctum.Care to comment Ma'am before I walk backwards out of the room?

Read more ...

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/273265.html

witchy1

20th November 2012, 12:13

Also interesting that the police new about Jimmy and took his dental impression prior to Peter Sutcliffe being arrested. Odds on they knew!! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2229786/Jimmy-Savile-Yorkshire-Ripper-Cast-DJs-teeth-check-bites-left-Peter-Sutcliffes-victims.html

Real Whitby has already published three articles on the subject; here (http://www.real-whitby.co.uk/did-north-yorks-police-fix-it-for-jim) – here (http://www.real-whitby.co.uk/savile-north-yorks-policecouncil-cover-up) – and here (http://www.real-whitby.co.uk/savile-and-other-party-animals). In summary, by collating information from open sources and obtaining information from local people, Real Whitby investigative-journalists have identified eight locations in Scarborough and one in Whitby that were associated with Savile and the paedophile-ring of influential people that he operated there for over forty years.

It would appear that four of these locations are unknown to the police. The single location in Whitby still exists and is alleged to have had a whipping-post in it. http://www.real-whitby.co.uk/north-yorkshire-police-and-jimmy-how-much-did-they-know

Cidersomerset

20th November 2012, 13:02

It seems unreal all these stories apearing,how he got away with it. Obviously Money and contacts helped, which opens
the door to all the other accusations that seem unbelievable to gen public, like necrophelia, satinic ritualist sacrifices ,
and supplying the elites !!!

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Former bodyguard says Jimmy Savile bribed police to keep quiet about alleged paedophilia

http://primetime.unrealitytv.co.uk/former-bodyguard-says-jimmy-savile-bribed-police-to-keep-quiet-about-alleged-paedophilia/

This is one of the oddest stunts, even without knowing what has come out now....I would not be suprised if it was not a present
for Peter for keeping quite ??

What does Ripper know about Savile?

More links between killer and paedo emerge

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4633112/What-does-ripper-know-about-savile.html#ixzz2Clercxp9

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01616/SNE0819RIP--620_1616060a.jpg

PRESSURE was growing last night for police to probe the emerging links between pervert DJ Jimmy Savile and Yorkshire Ripper Peter Sutcliffe. They include the fact cops hunting the prostitute slayer took a cast of Savile’s TEETH — most likely to check against bite marks on victims.Sutcliffe NAMED Savile in police interviews and two of his victims were FOUND near Savile’s flat. The TV star VISITED Sutcliffe in prison soon after his conviction and they were seen as FRIENDS during his later trips to Broadmoor Hospital. Now questions are being asked over whether they may have known each otherBEFORE the murderer was locked up. The making of a cast of Savile’s teeth was revealed by ex-model and Benny Hill girl Nikki Critcher, who had become friends with Harley Street dentist Dr Mace Joffe around 1980. Nikki, now a mum of three who has trained as a lawyer, said: “Mace was called up by police and used to keep us updated. He told us he had to go up to Leeds and take a cast of Jimmy Savile’s teeth.

read more !!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4633112/What-does-ripper-know-about-savile.html

THE WORLDS MOST EVIL SERIAL KILLERS, AND THEIR CRIMES THAT SHOOK THE WORLD .. PETER SUTCLIFFE “THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER”

Posted on June 20, 2012

MORE EXCLUSIVE TRUE CRIME AND MURDERABILIA HERE AT LITTLEDEAN JAIL, FOREST OF DEAN , GLOUCESTERSHIRE , UK …FOR 2012

HERE ARE SOME MORE EXCLUSIVE IMAGES OF VARIOUS PETER SUTCLIFFE AKA THE “YORKSHIRE RIPPER ” PERSONAL BELONGINGS ,
ARTWORK ETC ….. NOW HERE ON PUBLIC DISPLAY AT LITTLEDEAN JAIL . PROVIDING A GLIMPSE INTO THE SEEMINGLY CUSHY LIFE
HE HAS LONG SINCE LIVED IN THE SECURE BROADMOOR HOSPITAL, WHERE UPON HE IS SERVING 20 LIFE SENTENCES FOR THE
MURDERS OF 13 WOMEN AND 7 ATTACKS (MAINLY PROSTITUTES) IN THE NORTH OF ENGLAND FOR WHICH HE WAS ARRESTED,
CHARGED AND INCARCERATED FOR IN 1981.

HE WILL NEVER BE RELEASED

http://crimethroughtimecollection.wordpress.com/2012/06/20/the-worlds-most-evil-serial-killers-and-their-crimes-that-shook-the-world-peter-sutcliffe-the-yorkshire-ripper/

Cidersomerset

20th November 2012, 13:15

This is synchinicity The Suns story today !!! UNBELIEVABLE !!! EVEN Inspector
Clouseau could follow the clues it seems ....Something seems very wrong !!

http://www.qlineorientalist.com/IranRises/wp-content/plugins/2009/07/peter_sellers_inspector_clouseau_pi3.jpg

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Actually the story is older than i thought but still very relevent!!

THE SUN.............. Got a story? Email: talkback@the-sun.co.uk

Pete, Frank...Frank, Pete. And I'm Jim

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2270180/Frank-Bruno-meets-Yorkshire-Ripper-Picture-of-boxing-legend-meeting-the-murderer-Peter-Sutcliffe-at-Broadmoor-top-security-hospital.html#ixzz2Clobplp3

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00740/SNN2501Asutcliffe_740914a.jpg

A MAN with a familiar neatly-trimmed beard reaches out to shake the hand of boxing hero Frank Bruno.

It is a unique and amazing picture... for the man in the gaudy tracksuit is Yorkshire Ripper Peter Sutcliffe. He was introduced to Bruno in Broadmoor by cigar-chomping TV star Sir Jimmy Savile, who became friends with the mass murderer while doing voluntary work at the top-security hospital.

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00740/SNN2507KSsutcliffe__740912a.jpg

Scoop ... Sun story

The photo is the only informal snap of Sutcliffe taken since he was locked up in 1981. It shows him relaxed and smiling as he grabs Bruno’s giant fist. The encounter happened when Bruno opened a new gym at Broadmoor as a favour for a pal. He met gangland villain Ronnie Kray, a boxing fan, on Henley Ward, where the most dangerous and notorious patients were housed. Then Sir Jimmy introduced him to Sutcliffe. A Broadmoor source said: After chatting to Ronnie, Big Frank spotted the Yorkshire Ripper leaning back on a window ledge. He went over and was introduced. They shook hands and Peter said he was a big fan. Frank asked Peter if he would be using the new gym and fitness machines and joked that he could lose a few pounds.But Peter said he had never been a fitness fan and they both had a bit of a laugh. Frank asked Peter what it was like in Broadmoor and he said he had no complaints. When they finished chatting Frank shook his hand and wished Peter all the best with his treatment.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/08/article-0-010C6F8C00000514-6_306x423.jpg

Fiend ... as he is best known

The source added: “Looking at Peter in this picture, it shows exactly how he is. He is a nice guy with a good nature. He is easy to chat to and could be the bloke standing next to you in the pub.

“You would have no idea what his evil past is — and that is perhaps the most chilling thing about him.”

The meeting took place in 1991 during Bruno’s yo-yo ring career. He had recently been beaten by Tim Witherspoon and Mike Tyson but went on to take the WBC world heavyweight title in 1995. Bruno, now 47, later had to battle his own mental health problems, fuelled by cocaine abuse. He recovered and lives in Bedfordshire with a son.

The source said: “It was just incredible seeing Big Frank shaking the Yorkshire Ripper’s hand. There are probably more than a few people out there who would rather they met in the ring. “Obviously Frank knew what Peter had done to those women. He was there to do a job and acted very politely. But when he turned round he raised his eyebrows as if to say, ‘My God, that was the Yorkshire Ripper’.”Bradford lorry driver Sutcliffe butchered 13 women — mainly prostitutes — using a ball pein hammer, a sharpened screwdriver and a knife. The Sun revealed last week that the 62-year-old fiend is now considered low risk by Broadmoor’s doctors, who have recommended that he be moved to a medium-secure unit. He could then begin a rehabilitation process by being let out on the streets for shopping trips. Sutcliffe’s lawyers are trying to have him declared sane and are seeking a definite date for his total freedom.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2270180/Frank-Bruno-meets-Yorkshire-Ripper-Picture-of-boxing-legend-meeting-the-murderer-Peter-Sutcliffe-at-Broadmoor-top-security-hospital.html#ixzz2Cli1IR48

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Is the Yorkshire Ripper really Jimmy Savile's best hope as a character witness?
6 Nov 2012 17:54
You know, Peter Sutcliffe, that Yorkshire Ripper... the well-known paragon of virtue

Listen up everyone! Stop all the rumours and accusations about Jimmy Savile and stop them right now! We can draw a line under it all and move on, safe in the knowledge that no beastliness whatsoever can be attributed to the cigar-chomping hyperpervert.

How do we know this? Because mass murderer Peter Sutcliffe said so.

You know, Peter Sutcliffe, that well-known paragon of virtue whose only lapse from the path of righteousness was that time he murdered 13 women a few decades ago.
In a tape that has been leaked to a The Sun, Sutcliffe waxes lyrical about the bandy-legged child-bothering bastard, saying: "I can’t fault him from my experiences of what he was like. I don’t care what these people who are coming out of the woodwork are saying."Yeah, to be fair pal, you probably can’t fault him because you’re a hairy, overweight, psychologically-broken killer and not the kind of vulnerable, star-struck 13-year-old girl that Savile was more into. Never mind though – I’m sure he liked you in a different kind of way.

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1341971.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Peter+Sutcliffe+Yorkshire+Ripper+1981

"He visited a lot," adds Sutcliffe.

"He’d always come and chat with me on visits and I would introduce him to my visitors. Several times he left £500 for charities I was supporting. He wrote cheques out on the spot, a very generous man he was."

Well, we all know that Savile raised millions for charity during his sick, twisted existence, but that doesn’t mean… woah! Hang on! WHAT? The charities you were supporting???

Okay, so life in Broadmoor isn’t all about eating too many sweets and changing your surname to Coonan for no discernible reason then? No, there’s also the tireless work for needy causes as well. Forgive me if I’m slightly taken aback by that concept.It’s an open secret that some famous names are renowned for keeping their charitable efforts under their hats as they don’t want to bring attention to their good deeds, but this is different kettle of ball games altogether.

If any charity let slip that the Yorkshire Ripper was out there raising cash for them, they’d probably shut themselves down with shame before Twitter was able to wage an angry campaign against them. Hold on, did I say ‘out there raising cash’? Sorry, I meant ‘in there’. Obviously.What other charitable efforts have gone on behind bars without our knowledge? Karen Matthews locking herself in a box for a week to generate dosh for the homeless? Harold Shipman raising awareness for euthanasia groups? The mind boggles.

I’ll leave the final word to Sutcliffe, moaning on about the tidal of allegations against his former chum Savile: "It’s just going crazy, they love to savage people who are dead, people who can’t hit back."

This is from a man who savaged more than a dozen living, breathing women – women who were unable to hit back against him. It’s hard to decide what is more deranged – his views, or the fact that they’re deemed worthy of being aired in the public domain.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jimmy-savile-is-the-yorkshire-ripper-peter-1420266

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Saville working as a volenteer in Broadmoor high security hospital....

http://chrisukorg.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/jimmy_savile.jpg?w=630

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/10/12/1350068266365/Broadmoor-high-security-p-010.jpg

Broadmoor high security psychiatric hospital. A psychiatric nurse has claimed that a former patient told her Savile repeatedly raped her there. Photograph: ROBIN ANDERSON/Rex Features

The government has been dragged into the Jimmy Savile scandal after it emerged that the Department of Health could be sued directly over claims the star abused patients when he was a volunteer at Broadmoor hospital in the 1970s and 1980s.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/12/jimmy-savile-government-civil-claims

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Close: The BBC star's home is very near to where Sutcliffe dumped one of his victims - as the Ripper mentioned in a police interview

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2229786/Jimmy-Savile-Yorkshire-Ripper-Cast-DJs-teeth-check-bites-left-Peter-Sutcliffes-victims.html#ixzz2ClltOS2n
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Cidersomerset

20th November 2012, 20:25

Too frightened to tweet?

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Published on 19 Nov 2012 by Channel4News

Lord McAlpine's legal team is targeting "a long list" of those who used the social media site
Twitter share false allegations about him. Lawyer Mark Lewis and social media expert
Kate Bussman debate its impact on Twitter.

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Interview: Lord McAlpine

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Published on 19 Nov 2012 by Channel4News

Lord McAlpine tells Michael Crick why he is pursuing legal action against people on
Twitter who spread false allegations against him on Twitter. .

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Has Twitter flown too close to the sun?

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Published on 20 Nov 2012 by Channel4News

Lord McAlpine's lawyers are targeting those who used the social media site Twitter to spread
false allegations about him, in a move that could be a watershed moment for those who tweet.

Cidersomerset

20th November 2012, 20:34

THE INDEPENDENT ....

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article6172860.ece/ALTERNATES/w140/kelner_simon.jpg

Simon Kelner

Tuesday 20 November 2012

McAlpine doesn't need to pursue Twitter users

With money in the bank and the slur comprehensively disproved, the damage to his reputation has already been repaired

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This may be an apochryphal story, but we are told that Lord McAlpine was applauded by diners when he left a London restaurant last week.

Friends of the peer have been reported as saying he felt “buoyed” by this random display of support, and, whether or not this incident actually happened, there is no doubt that most right-thinking people would feel more than a degree of sympathy for an old man who has been falsely accused of paedophilia.What's more, the fact that he was “outed” by a rumour-mongering Twitter mob only heightens the sense of outrage, particularly among those who neither use nor understand the social network.In some circles, the good Lord McAlpine, pictured, with his threat to start legal proceedings against anyone who tweeted or re-tweeted his name, is regarded as something of a freedom fighter, the man who is taking on the cyber-gossips and has refused to be cowed by the scale of the job (lawyers believe that the number of defendants in this case could number 10,000).

Lord McAlpine has already settled for £185,000 with the BBC (even though they didn't mention his name), and has said that he is going after ITV for considerably more in respect of their gaffe on This Morning when his name was inadvertently shown to viewers.Then there's the long list of Twitter users, who include prominent figures like the comedian Alan Davies (440,000 followers), The Speaker's voluble wife Sally Bercow (60,000 followers) and the environmental journalist George Monbiot (56,000 followers).At the same time in America, Kevin Clash, who was the voice of Elmo in Sesame Street, was falsely accused of having an affair with an underage boy. Again, a similar Twitter storm, but Clash has not threatened any legal action against anyone who shared the incorrect story on Twitter. This is because, in America, the burden in libel cases falls on the claimant to prove the defendant knew the information was false, or likely to be false, or at least was not acting in good faith.In Britain, the defendant must demonstrate that the accusation is true, nothing less. This is a huge difference, which many have argued has led to an imbalance in Britain in favour of the rich and powerful, who have used our libel laws to suppress information and thus restrict freedom of speech. The British system is overly protective of reputation, they say.Which brings us back to Lord McAlpine. Can a man who gets an ovation from his fellow diners be considered any longer to have had his reputation traduced? He is one of the few people in Britain that we know, for certain, is not a paedophile. Of course, he should not have been subjected to this heinous slur, but maybe with a few hundred grand in the bank, and the BBC Director-General's head on a pole, the damage to his reputation has been repaired without now pursuing the tweeting thousands.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/mcalpine-doesnt-need-to-pursue-twitter-users-8335033.html

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Magnanimous Lord McAlpine to ask 10,000 Twitter users who falsely linked him to child abuse scandal for donation to charity and an apology
Lord McAlpine's lawyers have found 1,000 original tweets and 9,000 retweets
Donation amount will be decided based upon 'severity of Tweet', his lawyers claim - but an actual figure is yet to be decided

Alan Davies and Sally Bercow among thousands who could be sued in what is thought to involve the largest number of defendants in British legal history
Some Twitter users who tweeted the Tory peer's name have apologised

By Larisa Brown and Anna Edwards

PUBLISHED:11:35, 20 November 2012| UPDATED:20:29, 20 November 2012

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THE GUARDIAN......

Lord McAlpine to demand charity donations for false Twitter allegations

Lawyers draw up plans to deal with those who spread false child abuse claims about former Conservative party treasurer

Lisa O'Carroll

guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 20 November 2012 19.34 GMT

Lord McAlpine's solicitors plan to ask everyone who tweeted his name in relation to false allegations about child abuse to make a small donation to charity and to remove all offending posts on Twitter.Lawyers for the former Conservative party treasurer are still locked in negotiations with ITV over what is expected to be a six-figure settlement over Phillip Schofield's on-screen blunder, in which he ambushed the prime minister, David Cameron, with a list of Tory politicians allegedly linked to child sex abuse, the result of a "three-minute" internet search.

McAlpine's lawyers are trawling through a list of about 1,000 tweets and up to 9,000retweets mentioning his name following the botched 2 November Newsnight report, which wrongly linked him to child abuse in north Wales, a broadcast that ultimately cost the BBC's director general, George Entwistle, his job.There has been speculation that the final ITV payout could be as much as £500,000 and that McAlpine would seek at least £5 each from members of the public who tweeted or retweeted posts containing his name.A spokeswoman for McAlpine said: "No set amount has yet been agreed. The lawyers are considering this, but they will be asking for a donation to charity."

McAlpine's solicitor, Andrew Reid, said last Thursday that ITV headed a "very long list" including Sally Bercow, the wife of the Speaker of the House of Commons, who faced legal action over the false allegations.McAlpine has said the Newsnight allegations left him shattered and "consigned him to the lowest circles of hell" when they were made on 2 November.He said he wanted to end "trial by Twitter", saying people had to realise that the social networking site was not just a "closed gossip coffee shop"."It gets in to your bones. It gets into [you], it makes you angry. And that's extremely bad for you to be angry. And it gets into your soul. You just think there's something wrong with the world," he said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/nov/20/lord-mcalpine-false-twitter-allegations

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Lord Mc Alpine said he was quitely enjoying retirement ,gardening in Southern
Italy. I think his reputation has been reedemed in the mainstream press.

It would be nice if he donates all his compensation towards abuse victims.After
costs if it is his reputation he wants to clear. Not fill his bank account..

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Cidersomerset

21st November 2012, 12:14

CHANNEL 4 NEWS PAGE.......

Friday 02 November 2012 UK

How Jimmy Savile revealed all in the psychiatrist's chair

A rare transcript of a radio interview with Jimmy Savile, obtained by Channel 4 News, reveals startling insights into a man who planned escape methods and said "I could be corrupted".

In 1991 Jimmy Savile gave a chilling interview that left BBC psychiatrist Anthony Clare with concerns about the then beloved broadcaster.

A full transcript of the recording obtained by Channel 4 News reveals dramatic insights into Savile's disturbed psyche and his obsession with holding "ultimate freedom". Savile even boasted on air of his escape plans should he ever be caught out in a major career-ending scandal.

The interview appears in a book by BBC Radio 4 psychiatrist, the late Anthony Clare, which brings together a number of interviews from the radio series In The Psychiatrists Chair.

Throughout Savile refuses to allow Dr Clare through his facade; denying having any emotions, using patter and concocted stories to distract from awkward questions.

Savile reveals that there was nobody who knew him intimately and insists "what you see is what you get". Dr Clare notes that as the seventh child in his family a young Savile was emotionally and materially deprived and his "spartan emotional regimen" hinted at powerful reasons to shun intimacy.

"His reluctance to plant emotional roots is mirrored in his refusal to identify any one physical location as home," Clare states in his 1992 book.

VIDS on link...............

http://www.channel4.com/news/how-jimmy-savile-revealed-all-in-the-psychiatrists-chair

Cidersomerset

21st November 2012, 12:41

Lord Mc Alpine is a veteran of the political trenches of the Thatcher era....

A Goliath against David in the world of intrigue and smoke and mirrors !!

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The above was written in 1999...from McAlpine's book The New Machiavelli - The Art of Politics in Business

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Lord McAlpine on How To Deal With The Media: “Another option is for the businessperson to learn the art of dealing with the media, using all the tricks that go with that trade – such as the false defeat: when a person seems to lose, in order to gain public sympathy, or the false triumph: where a person seems to win in order to appear strong – thus giving credibility to any number of dubious propositions that person may wish to make in the future. Neither of these ploys are examples of the use of true facts, rather of false facts given to the media to chew on, much as a dog chews on a bone. Another useful ploy is the false accusation. First, create a situation where you are wrongly accused. Then, at a convenient moment, arrange for the false accusation to be shown to be false beyond all doubt. Those who have made accusations against both the company and its management become discredited. Further accusations will then be treated with great suspicion. Always remember that people’s memories are very frail, remembering only both the high spots and the lows of a person’s career, and then seldom remembering accurately. People believe in the facts that it suits them to believe.”

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Machiavelli-The-Art-Politics-Business/dp/0471350958/

http://the-tap.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/alistair-mcalpine-on-how-to-defeat-your.html

Gardener

21st November 2012, 14:18

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20428714

David Cameron said an interim report had some "extremely disturbing findings" and he called for people affected to make contact with the police.

I would also suggest any people affected have an independant record of their allegations and transactions with police recorded and lodged with someone trustworthy. Sanitization is a huge problem.

Rocky_Shorz

26th November 2012, 18:07

I'm not sure if this was already shared in this thread...

Witness and Whistle-blower With Ties to Jimmy Savile Case Survives Car Crash After Brake Failure, Sabotage Suspected...

theintelhub.com

Although the mainstream media didn’t recognize the crimes committed by Jimmy Savile until after his death, there were many instances throughout his career where he was accused or implicated in child abuse cases.

In most cases he was able to avoid a whole lot of legal trouble and public scrutiny due to his media celebrity and his close ties to the power of the royal family.

The fallout from the Jimmy Savile case has probably just begun, but the backlash has already been considerable for anyone who has dared to speak out on the issue, with some people at the BBC even losing their jobs.

In the midst of these revelations there has been an increased attention on pedophilia in the entertainment industry and in state institutions like charities and children’s homes. There has also been an increased attention on old cases that Savile may have escaped from during his career.

One case for example, involves a pedophile ring that was being run through multiple North Wales children’s homes in the mid 1980’s. This ring was exposed when Labour councillor Malcolm King blew the whistle after learning of the child abuse through working so closely with the schools.

Just this week Malcolm King survived a car crash that happened under extremely suspicious circumstances. While driving a car that had no prior issues, his brakes mysteriously failed, causing the car to lose control in a busy intersection and crash into another vehicle. Luckily Mr. King only suffered minor injuries, but foul play was suspected enough for the police to impound the vehicle so it could be examined for signs of sabotage.

According to the UK Daily Star:

“THE whistle-blower who exposed the Welsh children’s home sex abuse scandal has cheated death in a suspect car smash after his brakes failed. Police have seized care boss Malcolm King’s motor to see if it was sabotaged. The car, a regularly-maintained Volvo S60, careered across a busy A-road and was hit side-on by an Alfa Romeo. Afterwards Mr King, 68, who suffered a broken leg, found his brake pedal unattached and lying on the car floor.”

Mr. King told the Daily Star that:

“I pushed my foot down hard on what I thought was the brake pedal but nothing happened….I’ve no idea whether the pedal was attached at this stage or not…The car flew across the junction and a car coming from my right smashed into my side…If I’d shot across the junction a split-second sooner I’d be dead because it would have hit where I was sitting rather than the bonnet. It doesn’t bear thinking about. My car, which is a write-off, is now in the hands of the crash investigators…It’s a good car and I’ve always maintained and serviced it regularly at the best garage in town. The police officer at the scene told me they’d examine it very thoroughly. They said they’d go over it with a fine-tooth comb.’’

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Cidersomerset

26th November 2012, 21:37

Thanks Rocky this is interresting.......................

THE whistle-blower who exposed the Welsh children’s home sex abuse scandal has cheated death in a suspect car smash after his brakes failed.

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Police have seized care boss Malcolm King’s motor to see if it was sabotaged.
The car, a regularly-maintained Volvo S60, careered across a busy A-road and was hit side-on by an Alfa Romeo.Afterwards Mr King, 68, who suffered a broken leg, found his brake pedal unattached and lying on the car floorThe outspoken former boss of social services in Clwyd, where much of the abuse took place, told the Daily Star yesterday: “I guess I’ve pissed a lot of people off over the years.
“My friends tell me I’m crazy not to be more suspicious about it, but I can’t live my life being paranoid. “If a man could die from paranoia I’d have been dead a long time ago.”Labour councillor Mr King blew the whistle on a paedophile ring operating at north Wales children’s homes in the mid-1980s.It allegedly involved shamed TV star Jimmy Savile and other celebrities, politicians, police chiefs and judges.Mr King, a county councillor and former chair of North Wales Police Authority, was one of only 12 people given copies of the 1996 Jillings Report, which named every abuser.The married dad-of-two’s brake pedal mysteriously failed on the A525 near Ruthin days after the scandal blew up again two weeks ago.

Mr King said: “I pushed my foot down hard on what I thought was the brake pedal but nothing happened.“I’ve no idea whether the pedal was attached at this stage or not.“The car flew across the junction and a car coming from my right smashed into my side. “If I’d shot across the junction a split-second sooner I’d be dead because it would have hit where I was sitting rather than the bonnet. It doesn’t bear thinking about. My car, which is a write-off, is now in the hands of the crash investigators. “It’s a good car and I’ve always maintained and serviced it regularly at the best garage in town.“The police officer at the scene told me they’d examine it very thoroughly. They said they’d go over it with a fine-tooth comb.’’

The Jillings Report was so explosive insurers ordered it to be pulped but a copy has been found in council archives.Mr King has renewed his campaign for a fresh probe in the wake of revelations about Savile’s depravity.“I’m someone who speaks his mind,” he said. “If I know something is happening that I don’t like I will always speak out and try to change th“I spent a lot of time when the allegations first surfaced being incredibly paranoid. “I didn’t know who to trust other than family. It was a terrible time.”A North Wales Police spokesman confirmed officers are investigating the cause of the crash.Clwyd County Council leader Dennis Parry, 64, said the controversial report should be made public.

http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/north-wales-whistle-blower-in-suspect.html

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/282958/My-terror-at-hands-of-paedos/

Cidersomerset

26th November 2012, 21:42

26 November 2012 Last updated at 18:15

.Savile's NHS access scrutinisedBy Branwen Jeffreys

Health correspondent, BBC News

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Jimmy Savile was granted access to three NHS hospitals, which included Stoke Mandeville

Charities say the NHS needs a greater sense of urgency in its investigations into how Jimmy Savile was given extensive access to hospital premises.
The health service is setting up four investigations following allegations of abuse by Savile but it could be up to a year before they publish their reports. This includes an internal inquiry at the Department of Health.Critics say that the process must be as transparent as possible so that "the public itself" can judge.

Abuse allegations

The entertainer was given extensive access over decades to three NHS hospitals; Stoke Mandeville, Leeds General Infirmary and the high security psychiatric hospital Broadmoor.

Each hospital is to carry out its own investigation, with a further internal inquiry at the Department of Health into how Savile was appointed to a taskforce at Broadmoor.Overseeing the work of all four of these inquiries will be Kate Lampard, a former barrister who is also vice chairman of an NHS regional authority in the south of England. Two months after the allegations of abuse against Savile were first broadcast it is still not clear what the detailed remit of each inquiry will be, what efforts will be made to contact former staff and patients and when or how the results of the inquiries will be made public.

Steven George, a former patient at Broadmoor, is among those who want answers. Since he was at the hospital he has undergone a sex change, but says as Alison Pink he was sexually assaulted by Jimmy Savile. While the police are investigating all the criminal allegations, Mr George says he wants the NHS to answer other questions about the access given to Savile. He said: "Who individually decided to give him the keys - why? What did they think he could do other than raise the profile of Broadmoor? Why was he given the amount of freedom to roam unescorted with the keys, once he got the keys?"

Questions to answer

Buckinghamshire Healthcare Trust, which runs Stoke Mandeville, has said its inquiry panel will be headed by one of its own non-executive directors, Keith Gilchrist. That panel is due to meet and decide its terms of reference in the coming weeks. Broadmoor hospital is expected to make a similar announcement later this week. Leeds General Infirmary told the BBC: "The structure and make-up of the panel to lead our internal investigation is currently being decided upon."

The Department of Health said the trusts - in consultation with Kate Lampard - are taking preparatory action and will begin inquiries once they have agreement from the police and the local boards which oversee child protection. But National Voices - a coalition of 130 health and care charities - said the NHS needs to show greater urgency and transparency.

Their chief executive Jeremy Taylor told the BBC: "These appear to be entirely internal inquiries, we don't even know the names of the people, all of them who are going to conduct the inquiries, what the terms of reference are, how long they're going to take. "And actually we want all that out in the public domain so that the public itself can be involved and judge.

"That's really important for accountability of the NHS to the public it serves. "
Peter Walsh, from Action against Medical Accidents, says this is particularly important as the NHS has not always been open about its mistakes.
"The public need and deserve to be reassured that things in our current NHS are safe."No health minister was been available to do interviews about the NHS Savile inquiries. Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt recently told MPs he had full confidence that Kate Lampard would thoroughly oversee all the investigations.

A Department of Health spokesman said: "These are appalling allegations, and alongside the three NHS trusts involved, we're determined to get to the bottom of them. That is why Kate Lampard has been appointed to oversee these investigations and as part of this work she will identify lessons for the whole NHS where they are found. "All four organisations undertaking reviews are scoping the work required and setting out robust processes that protect the interests of patients. Terms of reference for the reviews and details of the process will be published shortly."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20499664

Cidersomerset

26th November 2012, 21:52

DAILYMAIL online....

Home Office security chief responsible for Buckingham Palace 'viewed child porn'
David Tracey, a Home Office security expert, arrested by Essex Police
48-year-old charged with four counts of making indecent images of children
Tracey is believed to advise on security for Buckingham Palace

By Sam Webb

PUBLISHED:11:22, 25 November 2012| UPDATED:11:34, 25 November 2012

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A Home Office civil servant who oversees security for Buckingham Palace security has been charged with viewing child pornography.
David Tracey, 48,of Billericay, Essex, was arrested by officers from Essex Police and charged with four counts of making indecent images of children.
He works at the Office for Security and Counter-Terrorism, a Whitehall unit that oversees strategy on thwarting terrorists.

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Royals: David Tracey, who was charged with making child abuse images, is reported to be responsible for advising strategy to protect Royal residences, including Buckingham Palace

Sources told the Sun that Tracey had advised strategy on the protection of Royal palaces and other important public buildings, including Downing Street and nuclear sites.

Tracey appeared at Southend Magistrates Court on November 14 and has been bailed to return to Basildon Magistrates Court in January.

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Cidersomerset

30th November 2012, 17:51

PAEDOPHILE MP Cyril Smith forged a close friendship with vile Jimmy Savile lasting four decades, The Sun can reveal.

The 29-stone child abuser first bonded with the TV and radio star at a medieval banquet when he joined in with communal singing.

Smith impressed the Jim’ll Fix It host so much he was invited on to his other BBC show Clunk Click.

They became good friends and both went on to receive knighthoods.

The MP for Rochdale, Greater Manchester, who died two years ago aged 82, wrote about his relationship with Savile in his 1977 autobiography Big Cyril.

He said: “I once attended a medieval banquet at Worsley, Lancashire, along with Jimmy Savile. When I joined in the community singing, Jimmy blurted out, ‘You’ve got a nice voice there, Cyril, you must come on my programme!’ That’s how I ended up singing ‘She’s a Lassie from Lancashire’ on Clunk Click.”

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Smith went on: “Jimmy Savile openly admits that his work as a disc jockey is a joke, but his record of public service and charity must be unequalled.”

Smith and Savile shared many similarities in addition to their sickening sexual desires.

Both were closely involved in care homes — where they selected their young victims. Police investigated Smith THREE times — in 1970, 1998 and 1999 — but charges were never brought, despite claims of spanking, touching and handing out “punishments” to kids.

Greater Manchester Police and the Crown Prosecution Service said if the claims had been made today Smith would certainly be charged as there was “overwhelming evidence” against him.

Smith was governor at one home for vulnerable boys, Knowl View, Rochdale, where a former resident yesterday waived his right to anonymity to tell how the MP — known as “the fat man” — abused him in 1979.

Chris Marshall, now 40, said: “The truth needs to come out. People need to know this is what he was like — he was a paedophile.”

Savile, in turn, was the subject of SEVEN police investigations — and was interviewed by cops under caution in 2007. But again no charges were brought.

Last night Smith’s family said they were “deeply concerned and saddened” at developments.

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Cidersomerset

30th November 2012, 17:59

BBC inquiry into Jimmy Savile scandal 'to stay secret'
Much of the evidence compiled by a BBC inquiry into the Jimmy Savile abuse scandal could be kept secret from licence-fee payers even though they have already paid several hundred thousand pounds for it.

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Lord Patten, chairman of the BBC Trust, faced questions from MPs on the Savile scandal yesterday.

By Alice Philipson
9:46AM GMT 28 Nov 2012

Thousands of pages of emails, interview transcripts and submissions obtained for the Pollard inquiry will not be made public, according to The Times, despite the BBC promising to be transparent over its findings.

The inquiry, which is being led by former head of Sky News Nick Pollard, has already cost £200,000 of licence-fee payers money.

It is thought Mr Pollard will attach an appendix to his report but it will only contain pieces of evidence he considers crucial to his overall findings.

Although around 20 interviews have been conducted with witnesses, including former directors-general Mark Thompson and George Entwistle, head of BBC News Helen Boaden and her deputy, Steve Mitchell, these will not be included in the report. No more than 10 lever-arch files of documents will be included, according to a source close to the inquiry.

The investigation will also be much more limited than previously thought. The BBC will not focus in detail on the 10-month period after the Newsnight investigation was axed, when a number of senior executives failed to intervene despite being warned the corporation's reputation could be at risk.

It is believed the focus of Mr Pollard's inquiries will instead be the decision by Peter Rippon, editor of Newsnight, to cancel the investigation and on a series of apparently false statements he made in a blog as he tried to justify his decision.

At a Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee hearing yesterday, chairman of the BBC Lord Patten said the corporation "will publish everything the Pollard review reports.”

The BBC said in a statement: “With the exception of any legally required redactions the report will be published in full upon its conclusion.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9707696/BBC-inquiry-into-Jimmy-Savile-scandal-to-stay-secret.html

Cidersomerset

30th November 2012, 18:14

27 November 2012 Last updated at 20:25

.Sir Cyril Smith: Former MP sexually abused boys, police say Sir Cyril Smith was investigated three times Continue reading the main story

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Sir Cyril Smith was a sex abuser of boys in the late 1960s, police say.

The Crown Prosecution Service also said the late Liberal Democrat MP for Rochdale should have been charged with the crimes more than 40 years ago.

Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said the boys "were victims of physical and sexual abuse" by the late Rochdale MP.

Despite no charges after inquiries in 1970 and the 1990s, the CPS said procedural changes meant a prosecution would have been pursued today.

In a statement, Sir Cyril's family said they were "deeply saddened and concerned" by the allegations "made so long after Sir Cyril's death and at a time when he is no longer able to defend himself".

'No prospect of conviction'

Evidence now made public indicates that a file compiled by Lancashire Constabulary in 1970 contained allegations made by eight men that they had been subjected to indecent assaults by Sir Cyril when they were teenagers.

It was handed to the first Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) Norman Skelhorn, and contained statements that were very similar in nature from the eight alleged victims, the CPS confirmed.

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However, the only documentation still remaining is a one page letter Mr Skelhorn wrote to the Chief Constable of Lancashire on 19 March 1970 about Sir Cyril, who died in September 2010.

In it, he stated: "I do not consider that if proceedings for indecent assault were to be taken against Smith, there would be a reasonable prospect of conviction."

Nazir Afzal, chief prosecutor for the CPS in the North West, said this "way of thinking bears little resemblance to how such cases are assessed today".

"The decision made in 1970 would not be made by the CPS today," he said.

The decision in 1970, 16 years before the CPS was formed, was made by the office for the Director of Public Prosecutions.

The Lancashire Police investigation centred on offences committed between 1961 and 1965 when the boys were either living at Cambridge House Children's Home or were "dependent on Cyril Smith for either employment, financial support or some sort of guardianship", said Mr Afzal.

New allegations

He confirmed that when the CPS carried out a review of the case in 1998, it was decided no proceedings would be brought against the MP because he had been told in 1970 that he would not be charged, a decision that could only be reversed if new evidence was unearthed.

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Sir Cyril Smith investigations
Lancashire Police investigate allegations in 1969 that Sir Cyril Smith indecently assaulted eight boys at Cambridge House, a privately-run hostel in Rochdale.

The Director of Public Prosecutions advises Lancashire Police in 1970 against prosecution, saying the allegations are "without corroboration".

Despite a 1998 review finding there is enough evidence against Sir Cyril, the decision not to charge him cannot be reversed without new evidence.

A further review the following year decides again there is no new evidence to reopen the case.

Both The Crown Prosecution Service and Greater Manchester Police say in November 2012 that the late MP should have been charged.

The original decision not to proceed against the MP, who was a Labour councillor in the 1950s and 60s, was down to the fact there was no independent corroboration of the alleged victims' evidence, the CPS said.

"[But] victims of historical sexual abuse are entitled to justice, and prosecutions that would not have been attempted in the past are now brought successfully," the CPS said.

GMP has worked extensively with the Lancashire force since new allegations against Sir Cyril emerged last month, and has confirmed it has taken "overall command" of the investigation.

Assistant Chief Constable Steve Heywood said: "We are now in a position to say that on three separate occasions, files were passed to first the DPP and then the CPS containing details of abuse committed by Smith, but on each occasion no prosecution was pursued.

"We believe that if the same evidence was presented to the CPS today there would have been a very realistic prospect that Smith would have been charged with a number of indecent assaults, and that the case would have been brought to trial."

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He added: "Smith cannot be charged or convicted posthumously. From the overwhelming evidence we have, it is right and proper we should publicly recognise that young boys were sexually and physically abused, and we will offer them as much support as they need should they wish to speak to us."

Lancashire Councillor Alan Neal, who revealed in October that he was physically abused as a boy, by the MP, said: "This is good news for all of those boys who have suffered for so long over the years."

Investigations were stepped up two weeks ago when current Rochdale MP Simon Danczuk (Labour) made a parliamentary statement, calling for a new police inquiry.

Rochdale Council has removed a blue plaque to Sir Cyril from the town hall as a "neutral act to prevent vandalism".

ACC Heywood also said the force will investigate "any evidence that anyone was complicit in the abuse that is still alive today."

Sir Cyril's family said: "The allegations are not new and were investigated by Lancashire Police, Greater Manchester Police and the DPP.

"We cannot comment on why the DPP took the decision not to bring charges at the time or on subsequent occasions.

"We have no wish to be involved with any further trial by media, but we will fully co-operate with any further investigation conducted by the police and/or the CPS."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-20516533

Cidersomerset

30th November 2012, 18:20

It does seem a little odd the establishment have only thrown up three dead culprits !!

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learninglight

1st December 2012, 12:19

Well done cidersomerset and all for keeping this thread going

FYI : Further Press Indications that Rolf Harris Was Questioned Yesterday.

I’ve seen a few questions raised online about why I named Rolf Harris as the man that was questioned under caution by police yesterday. Some suggesting that I’ve maligned a much loved Australian/British Icon. Let me first say that it was with an extremely heavy heart that I named Rolf Harris and I would not have done so without an impecable source like Mark Williams-Thomas. Like for so many others, he was a fond memory from my childhood, unlike Savile who was always a bit creepy. I feel a bit like the boy in the picture above by Banksy, I’m watching my childhood drop into the sewer.

Up until very recently, I could very easily have written a fond and heartfelt article extolling the many and varied talents of Rolf Harris.

But I feel I have a duty to communicate the truth, however disagreeable that is.

I have written that Rolf Harris had his home searched last weekend and was questioned under caution by the police yesterday, and that is only the truth. Anybody who suggests more than that is, in my opinion, stretching the known facts.

While the UK press have avoided giving away any further clues as to the identity of the ‘man in his 80s from Berkshire’, the Australian press are giving away a few more clues.

AN Australian entertainer has been interviewed by Scotland Yard detectives in relation to one of the biggest sex scandals to rock the UK, a prominent child protection expert claimed last night.

Leading criminologist Mark Williams-Thomas – whose expose on British icon Jimmy Savile sparked a major investigation into some of the UK’s biggest entertainers – last night tweeted the name of the man quizzed by detectives. But police will not confirm his name.

In Sydney, the entertainer’s brother said he was not aware of the events unfolding in London.

“I haven’t spoken to him, he’s just come back from America,” the brother told The Daily Telegraph.

“I know what (he) did as an entertainer – he didn’t have anything to do with Jimmy Savile.

“He’d been involved with the BBC so maybe they’re talking to him about the fuss with Savile. That could be it.”

Another director of the entertainer’s company said at his city centre office that he knew nothing about the matter.

Operation Yewtree was established in the wake of revelations British entertainer Savile sexually abused and assaulted more than 400 people, mostly children, over five decades, in hospitals, schools and BBC’s London studios.

There are two strands to Yewtree, one directly related to Savile’s acts and the other, simply called “others”, related to sexual offences that had come to light during the overall investigation but not directly related to Savile.

The latest man fell into the latter.

News of the man’s questioning came in a statement from Scotland Yard, released soon after he left Lewisham Police Station in London’s south at 5pm where he had attended “by appointment” and was “interviewed under caution”, meaning he was read his rights before he spoke with police.

He has not been arrested or charged. Police searched his home in Berkshire in southeast England last Saturday when they arranged for him to formally be spoken to.

“A man in his 80s, from Berkshire, was interviewed under caution on suspicion of sexual offences after attending south London police premises by appointment at midday today,” police said.

“We are not prepared to discuss (the matter) further.”

The entertainer could not be contacted last night, nor could his London agent.

The Telegraph (Australian Newspaper

Rolf Harris Under Siege

While Credit must go to luv evreone and the good folks on Icke’s Forum for this find.
The UK MSM privately criticise the alternative press for naming Rolf Harris as the man who was questioned by the police under caution for sexual crimes yesterday, they are apparently laying siege to Rolf Harris’ home in Berkshire.

A HIGH-PROFILE entertainer interviewed by detectives investigating the Jimmy Savile child sex abuse scandal that has rocked the UK continues to avoid the limelight today, dodging the large throng of largely British media camped outside his country home.

The man aged in his 80s was nowhere to be seen at his waterfront property in the Berkshire region, west of London. His partner of many years was at home with other relatives including a man believed to be his son-in-law but both declined to comment.

Giant TV broadcast vans with roof-top satellite dishes and a number of Fleet Street photographers have clogged the small laneway outside the star’s home. The attention prompted a number of police to patrol the laneway a number of times during the day. With sub zero temperatures in the area, many media remain in their cars with heaters on prompting locals to complain about the constant car engine drones.

Herald Sun

So, I hope those esteemed organs won’t be taking the ‘moral high ground’ against the Tweeters and the Bloggers.

You may not have named Rolf Harris as I have but I’ve not laid siege to his home.

Link : http://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/2012/11/29/rolf-harris-interviewed-under-caution/

Sharon

Cidersomerset

1st December 2012, 13:21

Thanks Learninglight interesting developments, Rolph Harris would be a shock
if he is tied up in this ! I hope not !!

It still feels there is a bigger cover up going on above the celebrity level !!!

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Cyril Smith 'sexually assaulted teenager in Houses of Parliament'

Accuser says late Liberal MP abused him in Westminster office after 18 months of grooming
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The Guardian, Friday 30 November 2012 15.20 GMT

Cyril Smith, the Liberal MP for Rochdale, who died in 2010. Photograph: Hulton Archive/Getty Images

Cyril Smith, the late Liberal MP who police believe sexually abused boys in his home town of Rochdale, has been accused of assaulting a young Liberal activist inside the houses of parliament.

The alleged victim has told the Guardian that the sexual abuse took place when he was 17 in a Westminster office while other politicians walked by, not knowing what was happening. It followed 18 months of careful grooming by the MP as the assaults became more intrusive and serious, he claimed.

It is the first time that Smith has been accused of abusing anyone outside his constituency or of using his parliamentary offices to carry out a sexual assault. On Tuesday, Greater Manchester police acknowledged Smith was an abuser of boys in a hostel and a school in the late 1960s, while the Crown Prosecution Service said its decision not to prosecute Smith would not be made today.

Simon Danczuk, the current MP for Rochdale, who named Smith as an abuser two weeks ago on the floor of the Commons, said the case indicated he was a serial and brazen abuser over many decades. "We are now beginning to find that the serious sexual abuse committed by Smith was not just committed in the 60s but continued well after that, and even took place in the House of Commons.

"If the director of public prosecutions had reached the same decision as the police in 1970 to prosecute Smith, he would not have gone on to sexually abuse this man in 1979 and 1980," he said.

The alleged victim, whose identity is known to the Guardian and has been confirmed to have been a Liberal activist at the time, said that the abuse in Westminster was the culmination of 18 months of assaults. At the same time, he was being offered the inducement of a future political career. "It happened more than six times over 18 months, and it was pushing the boundaries each time. For years, I have carried a lot of guilt. He targeted me when I was young and vulnerable, manipulated me, and used his position as a politician and his influence over others to make me do what he wanted. He thought he was above the law," he said.

He was 16 when he first met Smith in 1979 and said he was particularly vulnerable, having fallen out with his adoptive parents. He had become interested in politics and had volunteered to post leaflets through letter boxes for Smith during the general election campaign, he said.

Smith was then the Liberal MP in Rochdale, having been first elected in 1972. He had previously been mayor of the Lancashire town. Smith approached the young activist and talked to him about local politics, and later about the 17-year-old's difficult family life. "I had some trouble at home and I had told him about it. He offered to pick me up in his car and took me to the moors. He drove in this big black automatic Mercedes, like something from the Second World War. While he was driving and as we spoke to each other, his left hand moved up my leg into my groin. At first I thought: 'Maybe he doesn't know what he is doing,' and he was probably a bit confused himself," he said. "But it got much worse."

His alleged victim says he has agonised over whether he could have avoided the advances, but Smith was a powerful man whom he did not want to cross.

"I was lonely and needed a father figure and he wanted to be a father figure to me. But it came at a price," he said. "He let me know how powerful he was – he knew everyone in Rochdale, including the police."

The abuse happened intermittently, and sometimes nothing would happen when they were alone together, he said. On other days, he would be grabbed and assaulted.

As Smith's assaults became more intense and intrusive he offered another inducement – a political career and a future seat in parliament. "Smith told me that I might be the next MP when he retired if I worked with him and I was looking for a way out of home and out of Rochdale," he said. The MP began to take his young friend to Liberal functions. On one occasion, Smith introduced his alleged victim to David Steel, the then Liberal leader who was visiting the constituency, he claimed. "Through him, I was being introduced to the top politician in the party. At that age, of course I was impressed," he said.

Smith was also careful to let his alleged victim know that he had been investigated and cleared by police after claims that Smith had abused young boys in Cambridge House children's home, a privately run care home in Rochdale. It emerged last week that Smith had been investigated in 1969 by Lancashire police, who sought his prosecution, but the then director of public prosecutions dismissed the case the following year.

"Smith told me that when you are famous, people are out to get you. But he told me he was housemaster in a home and he would say they were bad buggers in there and you have to discipline them. Smith said the police tried and failed to turn it into something more sinister," he said. The assault in parliament happened after Smith invited the alleged victim down for a day. It took place in the 29-stone MP's small office, as other MPs, including the Labour leader Michael Foot, walked by. "There we were in parliament and he was manhandling me. I was and still am deeply ashamed about what I let him do to me. I didn't tell anyone within the Liberals. I have a profound regret of everything I did and what I let him do. But he let me know he would ruin my credibility if I tried to take him on," he said.

The victim, who is now a businessman and a father of four, contacted Greater Manchester police two weeks ago with an official complaint of sexual assault against Smith and offering his help in any inquiries, but said he has yet to hear anything back from the force. "I want this story to get out there because the public should be aware of what powerful people can do to silence young people they wish to bully into sexual favours," he said.

He would also like to know if any Liberals from the time had their suspicions about Smith and if so, what they did to look into it. "Looking back, some Liberals might have had their suspicions about Smith. If they spoke out, it might help me to come to terms with it," he said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/nov/30/cyril-smith-teenager-houses-parliament

Cidersomerset

1st December 2012, 13:26

The Outlaw's Blog

Observations From The Dark Place

November 13, 2012

STEVEN MESSHAM

By Outlaw

The only time I met Steven Messham after leaving Bryn Estyn, was in the Secure (Punishment Block) Unit of an ‘Approved School’ that according to the the West Glamorgan Local Authority was a ‘Farm.’ I had been in the Unit a while already as I had recently arrived from Cardiff Prison and had a history of going ‘On The Push’ (Absconding) from the other homes they had sent me previously. It was immediately following my sixteenth birthday, this was going to be my home for the next three years! This place where we met, had a fearsome reputation (so I learned) among kids in Care. As an example, the kids in the other homes for younger lads such as Bryn Estyn, Ty Mawr, Crick House, Bersham Hall etc were threatened with being ‘Sent To Neath Farm’ as a method of behaviour modification. Lucky me eh?

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I have included pictures with this account, for the simple reason is that I have some! Countless records were ‘lost’ that showed the existence of the many, many lads and girls in the Care system. There were varied reasons for this, as many of the ‘Approved Schools’ and ‘Community Homes’ were either knocked down and the land rebuilt on or were closed completely, with some being utilised as other things. The records were meant go be sent to a Council Archive, but a large number, as I later found out were burned in large fires as the sites were demolished. Neath Farm School was one of those that were demolished, and a Secure Youth Detention Complex is now in it’s place, removing all traces of the original buildings. Bryn Estyn, I believe is now a Nursery and houses some Wrexham Council Departments. I apologise for the quality of the pictures as I have only just retrieved them from a box I stored away some thirty years ago! The above picture is the Secure Unit, ‘Dyffryn House’ at The Farm, primarily designed, as you may be able to tell from the bars on the window, and the steel exterior doors, for the more troublesome or ‘disturbed’ lads. I spent a few months there during my time at the Farm, for reasons I do not need to go into, but it is as grim inside as it looks outside!

I am digressing somewhat, I did not really speak or even see Steven Messham during the time I spent at Bryn Estyn, or much of the other lads, and I will explain the reasons for this in a later entry on this blog. What I knew of him at the Farm is that he was in one of the eight ‘cells’ that housed the residents of Aberdare House and if you were in there, it would have been difficult to strike up any sort of friendship. You were only allowed out of your room one person at a time, and while in there, you were never allowed outside. You had to have your wits about you at all times, to enable you to get prior warning of any advances, either physical or sexual towards you. Put simply, you either fought back, or you succumbed!! I cannot speak for Steven on that score, as I was too occupied with trying to look after myself. What I can say for certain is, the young, fresh-faced teenage lad I saw in the punishment block, did not resemble the battered, world-weary and mentally shattered person that appeared on my Television on November 2nd 2012.. For me, that was when the alarm bells started to ring…

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The Infamous Mr Fleming on a ‘Day Out’ in the Farm School bus.. Seems strange looking at it now, but even the bus was designed to be ‘escape-proof’ hence the bars! I am in that picture, you can just make out the side of my head, bending down pouring water from a Jerry Can…

http://renegadesblog.wordpress.com/2012/11/13/steven-messham/

This blog was on Davids site...

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/76203-am-i-alone-in-asking-this

Cidersomerset

4th December 2012, 14:09

Andrea Davison, Jimmy Savile, SERCO And How It All Fits With Establishment Paedophilia, Covert Arms Shipments and Government Fraud

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/76309-andrea-davison-jimmy-savile-serco-and-how-it-all-fits-with-establishment-paedophilia-covert-arms-shipments-and-government-fraud

Tuesday, 04 December 2012 12:21

By David Icke

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The story of the woman who had the documents naming police officers and big name politicians and Thatcher aides involved in paedophilia in North Wales and elsewhere, but had them seized by the police to stop the truth coming out.

Wherever you are Andrea contact me - or get someone else to do so on your behalf - wightmafia@davidicke.com

Where are you mainstream media? You should be ashamed of yourselves.

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Oh, there you are.

You ought to try this ...

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Now that's a journalist.

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JUSTICE DENIED

People persecuted for political reasons must be defende

Saturday, 20 October 2012

Andrea Davison, Jimmy Savile, SERCO and How it all Fits In With Child Abuse, Covert Arms Shipments and Governement Fraud

Details have emerged from Court Documents and colleagues about ex spy Andrea Davison, who fled the UK in July 2012 after years of persecution by the British Authorities. Continuing the persecution DC 2056 Robinson of the Derby Police recently told Andrea Davison's stalker, Internet troll Gordon Bowden, where she was. The Derby Police told him she is living in Argentina and was not, as widely speculated, in the Ecuador Embassy with Julian Assange.

bram

4th December 2012, 15:15

As there seems to be some ''appetite'' for uncovering these sex scandals from decades ago, I wonder when it will be appropriate for some bright spark in the media to start to take the lid off the British public school system generally. For those who are not from the UK and don't know, the members of the British ruling class send their male children to exclusive boarding schools where they will receive a first class education and be ''groomed'' (so to speak) for future careers in politics, or as captains of industry.

These schools operate a system known as ''fagging'' where the younger, new boys (aged 10-11) will act as servants/ slaves to the older boys. In this capacity, many young boys are raped and introduced to sodomy. When they are older, of course, they themselves will be able to avail themselves of the services of their own ''fags''.

Whilst the mothers of these boys may be unaware of what goes on in these noteworthy establishments, the fathers are usually ex-public schoolboys themselves, and have been through the same system. They are knowingly bundling off their young sons to be raped and degraded. The ruling class believes that this kind of education is good experience, and strengthens the character.

For those who have wondered, this public school system is the very backbone of the British Conservative party and has left its mark nore recently on the majority of British politicians from all three leading parties. Little wonder that the country is in a long term decline, and suffers from symptoms of a national paranoia and psychotic delusion.

learninglight

6th December 2012, 15:37

FYI : Jimmy Savile detectives arrest legendary kiss-and-tell PR Max Clifford on suspicion of sexual offences
PR guru was held as part of Operation Yewtree investigation not directly relating to disgraced DJ
Police arrested him at 7.40am today - making him the fifth to be arrested out of six who have been questioned
Currently being interviewed at central London police station

Link : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2243952/Max-Clifford-arrested-Jimmy-Savile-detectives-question-sixth-man-suspicion-sex-offences.html

This could be a big one, Max represented a lot of people and MUST know plenty, i really hope this is the straw that breaks the camels back but i won't hold my breath....

Sharon

Cidersomerset

6th December 2012, 19:12

Thanks learning light I saw this on the news, this is on top of vetern BBC
presenter Staurt Hall being arrested yesterday.

Both these cases are not connected to Jimmy Saville directly,
but are as a result of the publicity that past allagations would
be taken seriously after police encouraged victims of abuse to
come forward.....

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Stuart Hall Charged: Radio 5 Presenter And Former It's A Knockout Host Questioned Over Rape And Indecent Assault

Veteran BBC broadcaster Stuart Hall, 82, has been charged with three offences of indecent assault, Lancashire Police said.

The veteran broadcaster was arrested on Wednesday morning, and was questioned by detectives on Wednesday afternoon.

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6 December 2012 Last updated at 15:38

Max Clifford arrested in sex offences investigation Max Clifford is being questioned at a central London police station Leading public relations expert Max Clifford has been arrested on suspicion of sexual offences.

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He was arrested by Met Police officers at 07:40 GMT at his home in Surrey.

Officers from Operation Yewtree - set up in the wake of the Jimmy Savile scandal - made the arrest but it is not connected to the allegations made against the late BBC presenter.

A solicitor acting for Mr Clifford said he was being interviewed by police and would assist them "as best he can".

Max Clifford is one of the most influential figures in the British media.

He is the sixth person to be questioned as part of Operation Yewtree, the Met's investigation into allegations, some dating back decades, that have arisen since the late Jimmy Savile was accused of abuse.

The operation has three strands.

One is looking specifically at the actions of Jimmy Savile and the second strand concerns allegations against "Savile and others". The separate third strand relates to alleged complaints against other people unconnected to the Jimmy Savile investigations.

Scotland Yard said the man they took to a central London police station on Thursday morning was being investigated under the last strand of Yewtree's investigations.

Five people have now been arrested and a sixth questioned under Yewtree.

The four other people arrested are Freddie Starr, Gary Glitter, Wilfred De'Ath, a retired BBC producer, and radio broadcaster Dave Lee Travis. Police have also questioned under caution a man in his 80s.

Charlotte Harris, of lawyers Mishcon de Reya, said: "Max Clifford is being interviewed by police. Mr Clifford will assist the police as best he can with their inquiries. When we are in a position to provide further information, we will."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20635754

avid

6th December 2012, 20:04

The 'Freemasons' cult -whatever degree - is a blackmail society, one participates and gets rich, or one gets publicly trashed. The rot is coming out...? NEVER!!!
Those who are 'outed' are dispensible, the weak celebrities, the 'hangers-on' - many more will be sacrificed soon. But many many more are in the thrall of these insideous 'cultists' who prey on innocent children as part of their sick rituals.... Deny rituals? Nope - they have these sick things constantly.

Cidersomerset

6th December 2012, 23:49

Cm8yTHg_KTY

Published on 6 Dec 2012 by AwesomeRob19791

Max Clifford has insisted allegations of sexual offences against him are "damaging and totally untrue" after he was questioned by police for 13 hours.

The publicist was arrested at his Surrey home early on Thursday by officers from Operation Yewtree, the investigation set up in the wake of the Jimmy Savile abuse scandal.

Mr Clifford, 69, was held on suspicion of historic sex offences and taken to Belgravia police station in central London for questioning.

Speaking on the station's steps after he was released on bail, he said he thought he was facing two allegations dating back to 1977.

He said: "These allegations are damaging and totally untrue. On a personal level they are very distressing for myself, my wife, my family and loved ones.

"Anyone who really knew me all those years ago, and those who have known me since, would have no doubt that I would never act in the way I have today been accused."

The guy has covered up god knows how many crimes in his time. I think its about time he told the truth about who he was protecting and why. He has been drawn in because of his past...he has had some very undesirable friends.

Cidersomerset

9th December 2012, 19:58

Real Journalist At The Express Highlights Scandal of Care Abuse
Sunday, 09 December 2012 13:04

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/76591-real-journalist-at-the-daily-express-highlights-scandal-of-care-abuse

'Four weeks after David Cameron announced Operation Pallial, “an independent review and investigation into historic abuse in care within the North Wales police area”, I have come to understand the severe limitations of this inquiry, due to report its findings in April 2013.As a journalist and following the Savile revelations, which opened up this repugnant can of worms, I have interviewed dozens of abuse victims from care homes across the UK and from over a period of 30 years “in care”. I am left in no doubt that the abuse of children in the system is neither historic nor limited to the Welsh border.I have been shocked by the extent of abuse I have discovered. Much of it I have corroborated with social services reports and court documents as well as online government records.'

Read more: Real Journalist At The Express Highlights Scandal of Care Abuse

THE EXPRESS...

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Our columnist implores David Cameron to set up a national inquiry into care home abuse

SCANDAL OF 'CARE' ABUSE

Sunday December 9,2012

By Sonia Poulton

FOUR weeks after David Cameron announced Operation Pallial, “an independent review and investigation into historic abuse in care within the North Wales police area”, I have come to understand the severe limitations of this inquiry, due to report its findings in April 2013.As a journalist and following the Savile revelations, which opened up this repugnant can of worms, I have interviewed dozens of abuse victims from care homes across the UK and
from over a period of 30 years “in care”. I am left in no doubt that the abuse of children in the system is neither historic nor limited to the Welsh border.I have been shocked by the extent of abuse I have discovered. Much of it I have corroborated with social services reports and court documents as well as online government records. Over the past 30-odd years there has been an increase in children abused or “missing in care”. Some are drafted into sex gangs, others simply vanish.Last year in Kent 25 children aged 12-17 disappeared from care homes. It was suspected they were trafficked across the UK for labour and sexual exploitation.This is a snapshot of a nationwide problem that we are failing to get to grips with. We must.There are more children in care (89,000 in 2011) than at any other time in the past 30 years. Yes, there are good care homes run by decent people who want to give their young charges the best foundation they can. And, yes, sometimes children must be removed from their families so they stand a chance of leading a healthy and productive life. But there are clear problems that must be addressed in the system,not least with funding.

Since 2010 financial support for national children’s services, including child protection, has been reduced. Not that this has affected some privately run, publicly funded care homes that charge as much as £250,000 per year, per child.Experts I have consulted say investment should be redirected into creating decent “family bases” for children. Foster parents need encouragement not chastisement. Sadly, even when we acknowledge that abuse has taken place in the system, such as in North Wales, victims are still being denied official acknowledgement of what happened to them.Last week I was contacted by the 10th person to inform me that “the truth will never come out”.This 50-something woman and her brother were taken into care in the Seventies. While she remained in the North-East her brother was taken to Bryn Alyn home in North Wales. He was extensively abused, physically and sexually, for over six years by convicted paedophile John Allen, who ran homes around the UK.The sister, keen to pursue justice for her broken brother who still relies on medication to get through the day, has been informed there is no record of either of them even being in care.As this passionate and determined woman said to me: “They’re trying to cover it up again. They think we’re thick, they think they can do it to us again.” The depth of fear and distrust these survivors have should not be underestimated. There exists a collective notion that justice will never be served. That they will continue to be undermined and besmirched just as they were when they were children.

This has been further amplified by the issues arising from police assistance. Many forces have been caught on the hop since Home Secretary Theresa May announced that victims should go to the police. It has become a familiar refrain to hear of police indifference. One woman contacted them the day after Ms May made the announcement in November. She has still not had a return call.Another survivor turned up at an Essex police station only to be met with ridicule as he caught, in the reflection of a mirror, one policeman doing a whirring finger “crazy” motion.On the evidence it seems these survivors are still being failed. While many stumble into adulthood relying on alcohol or drugs to attempt to obliterate the memories there exists this notion that “the Seventies were like that”.It lulls us into a complacency, that “this could never happen again to children in care”. It could. It still does.
So I implore David Cameron to set up a national inquiry into care home abuse, beyond the narrow perimeters of Operation Pallial.Failing vulnerable children once, without the knowledge it was happening, is understandable. Failing them twice, when we know the situation, is nothing short of mass neglect.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/363566/Scandal-of-care-abuse

eni-al

11th December 2012, 01:18

Can't rely on the government, PM or police as they currently operate. If you want a job done right, you got to do it yourself. I'm sure a civilian body that takes on all abuse reports could work. There are plenty of decent people out there, get them together and something could happen.

Cidersomerset

13th December 2012, 10:56

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Published on 12 Dec 2012

Police have confirmed the number of alleged sex abuse victims of Jimmy Savile has reached 450.
Met Police Commander Peter Spindler said 31 of those claims related specifically to allegations
of rape by the presenter who died last year.He also said there would be more people arrested
in connection with the investigation.

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BBC online....

12 December 2012 Last updated at 18:40

.Jimmy Savile abuse: Number of alleged victims reaches 450

Police have confirmed that the number of alleged sex abuse victims of the late Jimmy Savile has reached 450.

The Operation Yewtree team said 589 alleged victims have come forward during their investigation of offences
committed by Savile and others.Of the alleged victims, 82% were female and 80% were children or young people.
Meanwhile, police have set up Operation Fairbank to investigate allegations by Labour MP Tom Watson of a
paedophile ring in high places.

Mr Watson said in October that police should investigate claims of a "powerful paedophile ring" linked to a previous
prime minister's "senior adviser" and Parliament.
'Exploited his position'

Savile, who died last year aged 84, was a Radio 1 DJ and the presenter of the Jim'll Fix It show on BBC One.
Operation Yewtree, which launched 10 weeks ago, has a team of 30 officers and has so far cost about £2m.
Police said on Wednesday they have recorded 199 alleged crimes in 17 police force areas against Savile.
They said they had recorded 31 allegations of rape against Savile in seven force areas.

Met Police Commander Peter Spindler, head of Operation Yewtree, said: "Savile's offending peaked in
the 70s and what we can show, or will be showing in the New Year, is how he used his position in
society across the country - the crimes relate to 17 different police force areas - how he exploited
this position to get his sexual gratification."

BBC home affairs correspondent Matt Prodger says the level of allegations against Savile - 450 in total -
is unprecedented - never before have police received that number of allegations against a single person.
Our correspondent says he believes the police have a total of 20 suspects whom they wish to interview.
They have interviewed seven people in total - six of whom were arrested.

Police are looking at three strands within their inquiry - claims against Savile, those against Savile and
others, and those against others only.

High-profile names arrested in connection with the investigation are PR consultant Max Clifford,
comedian Freddie Starr, DJ Dave Lee Travis and former TV producer Wilfred De'Ath, who all deny
any wrongdoing. Gary Glitter, who was also arrested, has not yet made a statement.
A man in his 80s was also questioned and a man in his 60s was arrested on Monday and later bailed.
Gary Glitter and a man in his 70s, thought to be Wilfred De'Ath, both answered bail on Wednesday
and were re-bailed until February 2013.

Operation Fairbank

The Met Police and the NSPCC are preparing a joint report of their findings to be published in January.
Police also said there had been a four-fold increase in people reporting allegations of sexual assault
unrelated to Savile, both recent and older cases.There were 55 reports of "non-recent" rape and serious
sexual offences in the month prior to the launch of Operation Yewtree, compared to 299 in the month
following it, police said.The BBC has announced two inquiries as a result of the abuse claims and a
further review into the corporation's current sexual harassment policies.There is a further investigation
into the circumstances surrounding the dropping of a Newsnight investigation into Savile.

Other inquiries being carried out into the Savile affair include the director of public prosecutions'
review into the decision not to prosecute Savile in 2009.The Met Police said Operation Fairbank
was launched in October after Mr Watson passed on information to police.A spokesman said police
were looking at the information but it was "too early to say it's an investigation of sorts".
"As with any information, it is being treated with the utmost seriousness," the spokesman said,
adding that police wanted to hear from anyone with any further information.

Mr Watson told the BBC: "A number of people have made allegations to me. The matter is now rightly in the hands of the police."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20697738

Cidersomerset

13th December 2012, 11:02

CHANNEL 4 News...................

Wednesday 12 December 2012 UK

Jimmy Savile: 450 cases, 31 allege rape

The number of Jimmy Savile's alleged sex abuse victims has reached 450, with nearly 200 alleged crimes recorded, including 31 alleged rapes, Scotland Yard reveals.

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Some 589 people have come forward with information relating to the scandal, with a total of 450 complaints against the late BBC presenter and DJ himself, mainly alleging sexual abuse, police confirmed.

Ten weeks since the launch of Operation Yewtree - looking at the claims against Savile - police said they have recorded 199 crimes in 17 force areas in which he is a suspect. There are 31 allegations of rape recorded against Savile in seven force areas.

So far Operation Yewtree detectives have detained seven suspects and helped in the arrest of three others elsewhere in the country, Scotland Yard said, adding: "More arrests nationally will be forthcoming."

Former pop star Gary Glitter and a man in his 70s, reported to be former television producer Wilfred De'Ath - are among those arrested as part of Operation Yewtree - have been re-bailed by police.

Glitter first arrest in inquiry

Glitter, 68, whose real name is Paul Gadd, was the first person to be detained, on 28 October. He was questioned by officers and released on bail.

A man believed to be De'Ath, a former BBC employee who once produced a radio show presented by Savile, was arrested at his home in Cambridgeshire on 11 November and also bailed to return to police.

Earlier a Met police spokesman said: "Two men arrested in connection with Operation Yewtree - a man in his 60s and a man in his 70s - have been re-bailed to return on dates in February 2013.

Other high-profile names to have been questioned include celebrity publicist Max Clifford, comedian Freddie Starr and DJ Dave Lee Travis.
Officers are looking at three strands within their inquiry: claims against Savile, those against Savile and others, and those against others, with the report covering the first of those strands.

http://www.channel4.com/news/jimmy-savile-450-people-allege-abuse-rape

Cidersomerset

14th December 2012, 19:13

Well, well, well - 'Me Lord' is back in search of another rollover jackpot,
but the lady won't roll over. Ooops. That wasn't in the script, eh?

Friday, 14 December 2012 12:05

D.Icke.com....

'Good day to you, nice to be back - £310,000 from the BBC and ITV
for not naming me was not enough, but then I was the mentor of
Margaret Thatcher - you know, “monetarism”. Geddit?'
House of Commons Speaker's wife Sally Bercow facing £50,000
High Court battle over Lord McAlpine tweet after she gives his
ridiculous demands the finger.
'What? She said NO? But you said ...'

'In a statement tonight, Lord McAlpine's lawyer Andrew Reid said:
"I am disappointed that the press has become aware of the
proceedings between Lord McAlpine and Sally Bercow. However,
I am still hopeful that we will be able to reach a sensible
agreement to settle this matter with the second set of solicitors,
instructed by Mrs Bercow, without the need to proceed to a trial.'

Oh, I bet you are, mate.

It might dawn even on you eventually that the British public is sick and tired of your antics.

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/7...-the-script-eh

Read more...

Sally Bercow facing £50,000 High Court battle over Lord McAlpine tweet
Sally Bercow is being sued for £50,000 by Lord McAlpine after he formally issued proceedings over an allegedly libellous tweet.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02427/bercowMcalpine_2427044b.jpg

By John-Paul Ford Rojas
3:57PM GMT 13 Dec 2012
The former Tory peer is asking for damages and an apology after the post which it is claimed linked him to false allegations of
child abuse. Mrs Bercow, wife of the Commons Speaker John Bercow, has instructed the media law firm Carter-Ruck to defend
her after the claim was filed at the High Court. The legal action comes after a tweet posted by Mrs Bercow in the wake of a
Newsnight broadcast about the false allegations – which did not name the person who the programme falsely alleged to be involved.
She had asked her 57,000 followers: “Why is Lord McAlpine trending? *innocent face*”
Mrs Bercow has previously admitted that it was “irresponsible” and “mischievous” but denied it was libellous.

Lawyers for McAlpine have said that he would target 20 “high-profile tweeters” over comments linking him to the false allegations.
The peer has already agreed a £185,000 settlement with the BBC and a £125,000 settlement with ITV and Phillip Schofield.
On This Morning, Schofield handed David Cameron a list of politicians allegedly linked to child sex abuse, which included Lord McAlpine.
The list was seen by some viewers. Carter Ruck confirmed they had been instructed by Mrs Bercow and that McAlpine had issued proceedings for libel.

A spokesman for the peer declined to comment.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...ine-tweet.html

brenie

15th December 2012, 19:27

Hi cider, so now the 'lord' is going after Sally Bercow, He really is a greedy sod !
However sooner or later he has to be challenged, fully, in relation to the 'Scallywag' artical of 1998.
That artical and the information leading up-to it has been around for over 25 years, and can still be accessed simply by a google search.
So why has there never been any action by the lord over that artical ? OK we know Scallwags is now out of action, but what about all the times people have referred too that information ?
The info: in that artical is so vile that any person (especially any person of wealth) would have taken every avenue available to clear their name.
And the Lord never did, instead he slid off too Itally, as if it was of no imprtance !
Now he screams from from the rooftops, 'my God hear what they are saying about me' i'll sue.
Surely there has to be a defence against his attack.
For sure if I relate the 1998 info: because it has never been challenged by the Lord, my defence has to be.. he was aware of the artical.. he was aware of the many repeats of the artical.. he never challenged the artical or the spread of the info:
For me that reluctance says a lot about the Lord, and would convey to the normal person that the Artical had full credibility.
It does not surprise me that the BBC, Itv, have quickly settled, their job now of course is to muddy the waters, and play for time, and pray that spotlight does not linger on their soft citadels !
And so a sage may ask 'how many times did Jimmy visit Aberdeen' ? It's not the fishing fleet that that adds a fishy aroma too that city.

Regards Brenie.

Cidersomerset

16th December 2012, 14:36

THE INDEPENDENT ONLINE.....

Special report: Police revisit the grim mystery of Elm Guest House

Boys in care were allegedly being groomed for sex at parties at a south-west London
house attended by well-known and powerful figures. James Hanning and Paul Cahalan investigate

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There is no more ordinary-looking row of suburban Edwardian houses in the country than Rocks Lane,
south-west London. But nowhere has given rise to such an outlandish series of allegations than the
one formerly known as Elm Guest House. The claims are now being re-investigated by the Metropolitan
Police, decades after they were first made. Attempts have been made by care workers to lay bare the
secrets of Rocks Lane but to no avail. Whatever the outcome of their investigations in the past, the
police seem convinced that a number of serious wrongs need to be righted.Rocks Lane is a conspiracy
theorist's dream, taking in allegations of the grooming of young boys in care for sex, elaborate gay
parties involving senior public figures including members of the Conservative Party, charges of a
police cover-up and even the suggestion of murder. The police believe that in the context of the J
immy Savile scandal and renewed claims over the treatment of boys in care in North Wales, there
is every reason to look again at an extremely murky saga.

A month ago, in conditions of the utmost secrecy (so much so that nothing was even put on computers),
the Metropolitan Police set up Operation Fairbank, to look into, among other things, allegations made by
Tom Watson in the House of Commons. The Labour MP had spoken of a "powerful paedophile ring" and
its links to a previous prime minister's "senior adviser". Mr Watson has been uncharacteristically
diffident about speaking to journalists on the issue since then, saying that he is passing on any
information to the police. He said yesterday: "I'm not seeking to add any specific allegations myself,
but hope that my comments will help the authorities get to the bottom of this."

What is known is that in the late 1970s, the Elm Guest House on Rocks Lane was a safe, unthreatening
meeting place for homosexual men free from the stigma of a sexual orientation legalised barely a
decade earlier. According to a former friend of Carole Kasir, the guest house's German-born manager,
she initially regarded herself as offering gay men an opportunity to "be themselves" without fear.
Rocks Lane, which overlooks a playing field, was known to homosexual men as it is close to Barnes
Common, itself popular with gay men for cruising.

But Elm Guest House's willingness to accommodate a small industry ("It became a convenient place
for rent boys to take their clients," says one person familiar with the place), began to attract the a
ttentions of the local police force. One neighbour remembers a months-long police stakeout:
"They were there all the time. Police hiding behind the trees to look at the property was a
running joke with the neighbours."

In 1982, the police learned that one of the guest house's parties was to take place, and the Met's
notorious Special Patrol Group, the precursor of the Territorial Support Group, duly raided the
property, resulting in a number of charges being brought against Kasir. The fact that two police
officers were in the house at the time of the raid has fed the speculation. The IoS has established
that, according to an officer closely involved at the time, two officers were embedded as guests
in the property for two or three days, one even pretending to have a broken arm, hiding a police
radio in a plaster cast to make secret recordings. If there was a cover-up, it appears not to have
involved the local police force, who seem to have been assiduous in seeking to have the place
closed down.

As many as 12 boys gave evidence to the police to the effect that they had been abused by men
at the house, The IoS has established, but the only conviction was the comparatively minor one
of running a disorderly house (ie, a brothel). "Abused boys do not always make the most impressive
of witnesses once they get into the witness box," someone involved in the case said. "The real
unlawful activity was underage sex. The police should have been able to make the other charges
stick, but the boys were only ever interviewed with a view to them being witnesses against Carole,
not as kids who were abused themselves."

The place continued to attract speculation. Who was at that party has never been established,
but as time went on, more and more allegations began to emerge about Rocks Lane. The local
police paved the way for the raid, but at some stage Special Branch felt the need to get involved.
Why was that, some have asked, unless there was something even murkier going on?
Child-protection campaigners alleged that boys had been taken from a local council-run
home and abused, a line of investigation that police are now pursuing.

What makes the Rocks Lane story so tantalising for the media is the list of alleged attendees at
the parties. One source suggested that Anthony Blunt, former keeper of the Queen's pictures
and an exposed Soviet mole, used to go the parties, but then Blunt's notoriety made him a
magnet for any number of fanciful theories. Those who knew him say the idea is absurd, and
that his sexual tastes were far more conventional. Others have spoken of two High Court judges
and a Foreign Office official attending. Chris Fay, a social worker who worked for a small charity,
the National Association for Young People in Care (Naypic), has alleged that a terrified Kasir had
shown him about 20 photographs of middle-aged men with young boys, taken at what he said
were kings and queens fancy-dress parties, attended by a number of powerful and well-known
people. One, Mr Fay alleged, featured a well-known public figure wearing nothing but a French
maid's apron alongside a young boy nude apart from a tiara.

In 1990, at the age of 47, Kasir was found dead in her flat. The coroner's inquest concluded that,
a diabetic, she had suffered an insulin overdose. Two Naypic employees told the coroner they
believed that because she seemingly had not had an insulin injection for three days, she had
been murdered, the victim of powerful people who feared she knew too much. Nonetheless,
she was found to have committed suicide, worn down by an eight-year battle to have her son,
who was taken into care after her conviction, returned to her.

So was the story of Rocks Lane (now mercifully restored to blameless respectability) just another
one of consenting adults "romping" behind lace curtains? Or was it qualitatively different,
involving something much nastier and more exploitative? Since 1990, ineffectual efforts have
been made to overturn this vast stone. A reported 2003 "inquiry", which ended up being
examined by the IPCC, foundered, frustratingly, on unsupported evidence based on the
wrong time frame. But now, with child abuse no longer regarded as unthinkable, the climate
seems to be changing.

Tom Watson's Commons statement brought forward a flood of emails from the public. Police
have been hindered by the loss of many documents and impassioned but unverifiable testimony,
much of which has surfaced on the internet. The allegations deserving of most scrutiny, though,
have seemingly eluded the web. The two surviving Naypic employees are reluctant to discuss
the case, but it is believed the police are interviewing what, tellingly, they now refer to as
"victims", and are encouraging others to come forward.

The alleged presence of household names adds to the intrigue, but in a celeb-obsessed age,
there is a danger that, should such names not materialise, Rocks Lane will be seen as
"just another" child abuse case. Yet police sources fear that dozens of boys were either
taken or on the run from care homes to be abused. By any standards, that should be a big story.

The net widens

The scandal of abuse at care homes in North Wales, including Bryn Estyn, was reawakened
following the Jimmy Savile allegations.

Reports of abuse – involving in the region of 300 children, mainly in the 1970s and 1980s
– first led Clwyd Council to commission a report into failings. But the Jillings report was
never published, and, amid rumours of a botched police investigation, the Waterhouse
report was commissioned. It named 200 abusers, or those who failed to protect children,
but was seen as a whitewash after no prosecutions resulted.

Victims of child abuse in Northern Ireland are still waiting for an inquiry into abuse at
Catholic church and state-run institutions between 1973 and 1989. It followed the
Ryan report in the Republic of Ireland, which found that sexual and psychological
abuse was "endemic" in Catholic-run schools and orphanages for most of the 20th century.

In 2010, a three-year investigation into child abuse in Jersey led to seven people being
convicted for a series of assaults they inflicted on children, mainly at the Haut de la Garenne
home, from the 1970s onwards. Police took 1,776 statements from 192 alleged victims
during the course of their inquiry.

Many victims there believe more abuse remains uncovered. An investigation into claims
that Savile had abused girls in Jersey was launched last month.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/special-report-police-revisit-the-grim-mystery-of-elm-guest-house-8420435.html

Cidersomerset

18th December 2012, 13:53

Open Letter To The Queen Reveals More Evidence Of The Establishment Paedophile Rings That David Icke Has Been Exposing For So Long
Tuesday, 18 December 2012 10:27

By David Icke

Questions about Intelligence blackmail of public officials using paedophilia.

Read more .

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/77004-the-pedophocracy

SUSPECTED USE OF PAEDOPHILIA BY THE BRITISH SECURITY SERVICES TO BLACKMAIL AND CONTROL PUBLIC FIGURES IN THE UNITED KINGDOM

Tuesday, 18 December 2012 10:02

By David Icke

MICHAEL H. MURRIN
[ -- address redacted -- ]
michaelmurrin@hotmail.com (murrin@hotmail.co.uk)

Her Majesty The Queen.
Buckingham Palace,
London,SW1A 1AA.
15th December 2012.

Madam,

RE: SUSPECTED USE OF PAEDOPHILIA BY THE BRITISH SECURITY SERVICES TO BLACKMAIL AND CONTROL PUBLIC FIGURES IN THE UNITED KINGDOM.

It is after much thought and with considerable trepidation that I write this letter to you. I write now because I have exhausted every other avenue through which I can raise my concerns. Every approach I have made to the statutory authorities, and elected officials, has been met with stonewalling and a failure to properly respond to my correspondence. I have sought to secure a proper investigation by the statutory authorities of the matters I am raising. It is, in effect, being made clear to me that no such investigation will be allowed to proceed.

During 1982 I established a Ratepayers Association in Preston. In my capacity as chairman of that association allegations of corruption within the council were brought to my attention. I did an analysis of the information I had received and concluded that behind the allegations there was serious criminal activity centred on the bribery of public officials and elected politicians, illegal sexual activity probably involving blackmail, and the trafficking of prohibited drugs. I initiated an investigation into the allegations being made and my analysis of the information proved to be totally correct. The investigation I ran started in Preston but spread to other regions and touched on national politics. The full extent of my investigations, and findings, has never been made public. As a result of the investigations centred on Preston there were three key prosecutions leading to convictions, they were:

1. The conviction of a prominent local/national businessman for the rape of an underage girl.

2. The conviction of his business associate for the serial rape of children.

3. The conviction of another of his business associates on nine charges of laundering money on behalf of a dealer in class A drugs.

During the investigation (1984-85) I was offered a copy of the membership list of the Paedophile Information Exchange. The asking price was £10,000, a sum of money which was not available to me at the time. As a “taster” I was given two names of individuals who were alleged to be on that list. One was a senior Labour politician who is still alive but retired, the other was Jimmy Savile. On October 7th I wrote to Mr Bernard Hogan-Howe, Commissioner – Metropolitan Police. I have had cause to write to Mr Hogan-Howe since and on every occasion I have received a proper acknowledgement of the correspondence. I have also written to Lord Patten, he has failed to acknowledge my correspondence or address the serious matters they raise. I have contacted my MP, Ben Wallace, but he is not practically supportive. On October 21st I wrote to the Prime Minister, I have had a standard letter acknowledging receipt of my letter. On December 3rd I received an email from Marples Demster, Library and Arts Policy Officer, from the Ministerial Support Team. This was a one page letter which failed to address ANY of the points put to the Prime Minister. Copies of the correspondence are attached.

Once the Savile revelations were in the public domain I started to analyse the information as I did in the early 1980’s when I received the information which led to the convictions mentioned above. One point that concerned me was the alleged involvement of the security services in the use of paedophilia for the purposes of blackmail. There were very serious allegations which centred on the Knicora Boys school in Northern Ireland. Eventually, I formulated a working hypothesis in an effort to make some rational judgements as to the veracity of these reports. On October 12th I wrote to Mr Hogan-Howe explaining my initial suspicions based on the working hypothesis, a copy of that letter was sent to Lord Justice Mummery. I stated:

“My analysis of the overall picture building up leads me to consider this WORKING HYPOTHESIS: Is it possible that elements within the security services found that the strategy they used at the Kincora Boys school was so successful in Northern Ireland that they decided to use it nationally? Could it be a possibility that these constant reports of child sex abuse involving influential figures have never been properly investigated, or prosecuted, because the security establishment are using these cases to blackmail and control establishment figures in politics, the media, the arts and other sectors of the establishment elite? Has there been an ongoing subversion of our democracy by rogue elements within the security service establishment? Whilst protecting us from our enemies beyond these shores is the security apparatus harbouring the enemy within? Is democracy being subverted with the intention that the people of this country be firmly tied to the yoke of totalitarianism?”

From my perspective the mere possibility that the security services could be using paedophilia and blackmail to control UK politicians is extremely disturbing. It might explain why the democratic process seems, increasingly, not to be working in this country? I placed this working hypothesis before Lord Justice Mummery, head of the Investigatory Powers Tribunal, expecting that I might receive some serious response. On November 21st I received a response from the Assistant Tribunal Secretary, he/she sent me four forms. I have responded to that letter today.

It is my belief that the failure by the authorities to properly respond to my correspondence is indicative of the accuracy of my Working Hypothesis. I do believe that it is now essential that the material related to the Paedophile Information Exchange that is in government archives should be published, this to include any material residing in the archives of the security establishment, the Home Office, 10 Downing Street and Scotland Yard.

I do believe that there is a strong possibility that the security services are or have been operating beyond the control of the democratically elected government. If paedophilia and blackmail are being used to subvert and control elected politicians then there is nothing I can say to express the seriousness of that proposition. No one has yet denied it is a possibility. I have been met with prevarication and stonewalling from all the official avenues through which I have raised this issue and voiced my concern. There appears to be a conspiracy of silence which encompasses all the main political parties. I believe they are at one in their determination to suppress information and maintain the status quo, however prejudicial that might be to the people of this country and the future of our democracy. The creeping totalitarianism represented by the increasing use of secret courts, overly intrusive surveillance, the detachment from any public accountability of institutions like the N.H.S, and now the threat of legislation to inhibit freedom of the press has, I fear, sown the seeds of serious discord in this country. If the democratic will of the people is not represented by their elected representatives then there can only be only one outcome in the long term, revolt.

There also seems to have been significant subversion by MI5 of the role of the police as a law enforcement agency. The case of the late MP, Sir Cyril Smith is a graphic illustration of this. Recently, a press report appeared on the Daily Telegraph web site with the headline: Sir Cyril Smith Abuse Dossier Seized By MI5. The piece was written by Steven Swinford and appeared at 10pm (GMT) on November 14th. The article referred to a former Special Branch officer, Tony Robinson, who worked for Lancashire Police in the 1970’s. Mr Robinson is quoted as claiming that allegations against Cyril Smith were investigated by the police but were not prosecuted because the then Director of Public Prosecutions considered a prosecution not to be in the public interest. Mr Robinson also claimed that Lancashire Police were instructed by MI5 to send the file to them in London. It has not been seen since. I have personal knowledge of the subversion of the police by government ministers who have intervened to quash police investigations which would otherwise have resulted in the criminal prosecution of elected representatives.

I am keenly aware of the need for balance when dealing with this subject, Sir Max Hastings writing in the Financial Times on November 9th 2012 under the headline Child Abuse is not a National Plague eloquently voiced the opposite view to that which claims that paedophilia is a significant problem in the UK. (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/65285bb0-299a-11e2-a5ca-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2E0Bn0m00) Sir Max Hastings is a distinguished journalist but I take issue with his conclusions which have, I believe, been reached after inadequate research and a flawed analysis of the publicly available data. On Tuesday 11th December at 9am BBC Radio 4 broadcast a programme titled Analysing The Child Sex Offender, one contributor stated that approximately 10% of children in this country are sexually abused.

Some have claimed that my campaign to secure the release of the information related to The Paedophile Information Exchange (P.I.E) is misguided as this organisation was closed down during 1985. This viewpoint ignores the fact that there were definite links between members of the security services and P.I.E. This matter is relevant today because there is significant circumstantial evidence to suggest that P.I.E was harbouring an influential membership and support network which is still active in public life. There are also indications that people involved in P.I.E have been protected by the authorities, this quote illustrates the point I am making: “Tom Watson’s (MP) whistleblower was told by a detective that the inquiry into Peter Righton’s alleged ring was closed ‘from on high’. Righton was given a £900 fine for his child porn imports, and a caution for a 30 year old indecent assault. Many similar investigation into paedophile rings have also hit the buffers. Cover-ups have taken place; events and individuals demanding investigation were ignored.” Again there is the allegation of the subversion of the law enforcement role of the police. “Peter Righton was a former leading childcare expert and a founder member of The Paedophile Information Exchange, which campaigned for the age of consent to be reduced to four.”

Recently I was contacted by a journalist from The Daily Mail who said he had been told there was a clear link between Peter Righton and xxxxxxxxxx. There was an alleged link between xxxxxxxx and the security services via his association with the Tory MP, xxxxxxxxxxx. Again this raises the suspicion of the security services being involved in the protection and propagation of paedophiles and paedophilia.

I am not alone in my concerns about the level and nature of child sexual abuse in this country, writing in the Daily Express on Wednesday 12th December 2012 Sonia Poulton said “As a journalist and following the Savile revelations, which opened up this repugnant can of worms, I have interviewed dozens of abuse victims from care homes across the UK and from over a period of 30 years ‘in care’. I am left in no doubt that the abuse of children in the system is neither historic nor limited to the Welsh border. I have been shocked by the extent of abuse I have discovered. Much of it I have corroborated with social services reports and court documents as well as online government records.

Over the past 30 years there has been an increase in children abused, or ‘missing in care’. Some are drafted into sex gangs, others simply vanish. Last year in Kent 25 children aged 12-17 disappeared from care homes. It was suspected they were trafficked across the UK for labour and sexual exploitation. This is a snapshot of a nationwide problem that we are failing to get to grips with. We must.”

The concerns regarding the care of children in the UK goes beyond the concerns associated with sexual abuse. There are now very real concerns centred on the way in which the child protection court system operates. It is also alleged that the social services are becoming involved in what amounts to the state sponsored abduction of children from families for no other reason than to meet adoption targets set by government. The case of Vicky Haigh raises serious questions as to how the child care system is operating.

“In the Family courts, simultaneously, Doncaster county council is trying to maintain its illegally obtained Care Order and Non Molestation order for the daughter of Vicky Haigh, having placed her with her father after he had been accused of sexually assaulting his daughter. The original taped evidence for this molestation was never given to the CPS by the police. There is also a school accident report book which corroborates her injuries. Elizabeth Watson has been representing Vicky Haigh against Doncaster council, and her threatened imprisonment is part of Doncaster attempts to keep their illegal actions secret. Vicky Haigh has said that she wants this hearing in the Family court made Open, so that Doncaster Council can no longer hide behind the secrecy injunction, exposed by John Hemming in Parliament.” I have spoken with Ms Haigh and viewed the documentation related to her case. On it’s own this case might be legitimately dismissed as the mere pursuit of one parent by another who is motivated by malice but the allegations of the suppressing of evidence and other dirty tricks being used by government agencies has the ring of truth about it and I do believe that this case should be subject to a full, independent, review.

On November 28th Jane Moore writing in The Sun said:

“IT can no longer be ignored by those who purport to be in charge of this country that something is deeply rotten at the core of Britain’s social services. Believe me, the case of the three Eastern European children removed from a loving home because their foster parents were members of UKIP is just the tip of the iceberg.

Lurking below, in the murky depths of our ferociously secretive “care” system, will be hundreds if not thousands of similar cases where a gross abuse of power has helped to destroy the lives of the very youngsters it was set up to protect. Hopefully, they will now rise above the surface, expose the ugly, playing-God mindset, and prompt a dramatic overhaul of these tin-pot dictatorships more reminiscent of Stalinist Russia than a modern democracy.

Babies forced into adoption after being taken from mothers on a mere suspicion of “future emotional abuse”, fathers and paternal relatives denied access to children on nothing more than maternal hearsay, and prospective well-meaning fosterers and adopters subjected to the ridiculously stringent political correctness that is making the headlines right now.

All conducted under a cloak of secrecy that claims to be in the interests of the children involved but all too conveniently protects the increasingly warped system itself. But all too many cases will be based on nothing more than an unfounded suspicion, plunging one or both parents into a Kafka-esque nightmare, a punishment without crime.

And worst of all, those who suffer most are the children, emotionally damaged by the actions of self-interested zealots who affect to ‘care’. We are used to case-centric inquiries such as the one surrounding the Baby P scandal, but it’s now time to shine a torch into the dark, secretive corners of the entire system to try to make its work and objectives more transparent while still maintaining anonymity for the vulnerable.”

The concerns as to the workings of the child care system in the UK is also of concern to other governments, on September 12th The Daily Telegraph reported that “The Slovakian government has such 'serious concern' over the workings of Britain’s 'family protection' system that it plans to challenge the legality of the policy in Strasbourg. In an unprecedented move, a foreign government is threatening to take Britain to the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) to challenge the unusual readiness of our social workers and courts to remove children from their parents for ‘no sound reason.’

” I could go on as there are reams of reports some alleging, others confirming, that there is a very serious problem with child sexual abuse and the way in which the child care system operates in this country. The attitude of the executive is a mix of denial, collusion and complicity. I have attached copies of the correspondence I have sent in an effort to secure some response from elected and unelected members of the executive. The responses have been a mix of stonewalling and prevarication. In the case of Lord Patten there was no response at all. The only person who has responded properly is Mr. Bernard Hogan-Howe, Commissioner – Metropolitan Police.

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I have the honour to be, Madam, Your Majesty’s humble and obedient servant.

MICHAEL H. MURRIN
[ -- address redacted -- ]
michaelmurrin@hotmail.com (murrin@hotmail.co.uk)

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Cidersomerset

20th December 2012, 16:27

THE Belfast Telegragh........

Pope’s child porn 'normal' claim sparks outrage among victims

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Victims of clerical sex abuse have reacted furiously to Pope Benedict's claim yesterday that paedophilia wasn't considered an “absolute evil” as recently as the 1970s.

In his traditional Christmas address yesterday to cardinals and officials working in Rome, Pope Benedict XVI also claimed that child pornography was increasingly considered “normal” by society.

“In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorised as something fully in conformity with man and even with children,” the Pope said.

“It was maintained — even within the realm of Catholic theology — that there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself. There is only a ‘better than' and a ‘worse than'. Nothing is good or bad in itself.”

The Pope said abuse revelations in 2010 reached “an unimaginable dimension” which brought “humiliation” on the Church.

Asking how abuse exploded within the Church, the Pontiff called on senior clerics “to repair as much as possible the injustices that occurred” and to help victims heal through a better presentation of the Christian message.

“We cannot remain silent about the context of these times in which these events have come to light,” he said, citing the growth of child pornography “that seems in some way to be considered more and more normal by society” he said.

But outraged Dublin victim Andrew Madden last night insisted that child abuse was not considered normal in the company he kept.

Mr Madden accused the Pope of not knowing that child pornography was the viewing of images of children being sexually abused, and should be named as such.

He said: “That is not normal. I don't know what company the Pope has been keeping for the past 50 years.”

Pope Benedict also said sex tourism in the Third World was “threatening an entire generation”.

Angry abuse victims in America last night said that while some Church officials have blamed the liberalism of the 1960s for the Church's sex abuse scandals and cover-up catastrophes, Pope Benedict had come up with a new theory of blaming the 1970s.

“Catholics should be embarrassed to hear their Pope talk again and again about abuse while doing little or nothing to stop it and to mischaracterise this heinous crisis,” said Barbara Blaine, the head of SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests,

“It is fundamentally disturbing to watch a brilliant man so conveniently misdiagnose a horrific scandal,” she added.

“The Pope insists on talking about a vague ‘broader context' he can't control, while ignoring the clear ‘broader context' he can influence — the long-standing and unhealthy culture of a rigid, secretive, all-male Church hierarchy fixated on self-preservation at all costs. This is the ‘context’ that matters.”

The latest controversy comes as the German magazine Der Spiegel continues to investigate the Pope's role in allowing a known paedophile priest to work with children in the early 1980s.

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Cidersomerset

30th December 2012, 13:52

Censored: paedophile child precuror Jimmy Savile's private letters to Margaret
Thatcher: Files edited two months ago ... AFTER child abuse claims surfaced
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Letter from Jimmy Savile to former PM released under 30-year rule.
Declares his love for her in gushing 1980 note written following a lunch.
Also refers to his 'girl patients' and says 'they all love you'.
But other correspondence between the two has been censored.
Savile spent 11 consecutive New Year's Eves with Mrs Thatcher.

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Censored, Savile's private letters to Mrs Thatcher: Files edited two months ago... AFTER child abuse claims surfaced

Letter from Jimmy Savile to former PM released under 30-year rule
Declares his love for her in gushing 1980 note written following a lunch
Also refers to his 'girl patients' and says 'they all love you'
But other correspondence between the two has been censored
Savile spent 11 consecutive New Year's Eves with Mrs Thatcher
By Claire Ellicott
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A letter thought to mark the beginning of the warm relationship between Margaret Thatcher and Jimmy Savile has been made public for the first time.
But other correspondence between the pair has been censored, raising questions over what it contains.
The Top Of The Pops presenter sent an adoring letter to the then prime minister in 1980, singing her praises and declaring his love for her.

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Warm relationship: The letter is thought to mark the beginning of a close friendship between Jimmy Savile and Margaret Thatcher. But further
correspondence between the pair has been censored because it is 'personal' or 'confidential'

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Correspondence: A handwritten letter from Jimmy Savile which he declared his
'love' for Margaret Thatcher after being invited to lunch with her was released by
the National Archives under the 30-year rule

She responded by inviting the now-disgraced DJ to lunch at Chequers, spending 11 consecutive New Year’s Eves with him and overseeing his knighthood.
The letter, part of a Savile file released under the 30-year rule by the National Archives at Kew today, reveals how well connected to the establishment he was.
But parts of some exchanges between Savile and Mrs Thatcher were censored in October this year – eight days after claims that he had sexually abused people surfaced in an ITV documentary.The text of a letter from Savile to Mrs Thatcher and a phone message that he left for her were deleted from the file under the Freedom of Information Act on October 11.

The information is exempt because it is ‘personal’ or ‘confidential’.

But the timing raises the question of whether the information was redacted in light
of the negative headlines.Correspondence remaining in the file includes the gushing letter Savile sent to Mrs Thatcher after a lunch meeting to discuss funding for Stoke Mandeville Hospital. In it, he also hints at becoming a knight, something arranged during Mrs Thatcher’s tenure and awarded in the New Year’s Honours in 1990, a month after she left office.

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Close: The note, written in February 1980, is signed with kisses and bears Savile¿s distinctive signature, with a smiley face in the J of his name

The letter reads: ‘I waited a week before writing to thank you for my lunch invitation because I had such a superb time I didn’t want to be too effusive.

‘My girl patients pretended to be madly jealous and wanted to know what you wore and what you ate. All the paralysed lads called me “Sir James” all week. They all love you. Me too!!’

The note, written in February 1980, is signed with kisses and bears Savile’s distinctive signature, with a smiley face in the J of his name.

There is no record of Mrs Thatcher’s reply, but a later memo to her from her personal secretary asks in a worried tone whether she has agreed to appear on Jim’ll Fix It.

In the message dated March 9, 1981, after the DJ had lunch with Mrs Thatcher at Chequers, Caroline Stephens wrote: ‘Can you kindly let me know if you made any promises to Jimmy Savile when he lunched with you yesterday, for instance:

‘(i) Did you offer him any money for Stoke Mandeville?

‘(ii) Did you tell him that you would appear on Jim’ll Fix It?’

In felt pen, Mrs Thatcher replies to the first saying: ‘Will tell you in detail. MT.’ To the second, she simply writes: ‘No.’

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Censored: The text of a letter from Savile to Mrs Thatcher and a phone message that he left for her were deleted from the file under the Freedom of Information Act on October 11

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Pariah: Savile was invited to lunches at Chequers, spending 11 consecutive New Year's Eves with Mrs Thatcher who also oversaw his knighthood

Praised during his life for his charity work, especially at Stoke Mandeville, Savile has now been unmasked as a serial child abuser.

More than 450 people have made allegations of abuse by the DJ, who died last year aged 84.

The papers released by the National Archive today include an entire Savile file devoted to his correspondence with Mrs Thatcher and her aides about his charity work and pleas for Government money for his projects.

There are also a number of redactions made in October – other files released today were edited much earlier in the year.

In the 1981 section of the file, there are discussions about Savile’s suggestion of a Government contribution to Stoke Mandeville during a meeting with Mrs Thatcher.

No 10 private secretary Mike Pattison wrote: ‘The Prime Minister said was he thinking of a million pounds and Mr Savile replied that they would be grateful for any sum.’

In December 1981, the Government announced that it would give £500,000 to the Stoke Mandeville Appeal.

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learninglight

11th January 2013, 08:01

FYI : Savile 'abused children as young as ten', report expected to say

A report by police and the NSPCC on Jimmy Savile is expected to claim that children as young as ten fell victim to the television presenter during four decades of abuse.

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7:22AM GMT 11 Jan 2013
Its findings on the full scale of Savile's crimes are also expected to say that he may have raped more than 30 children and young people, it was reported.
The report is also expected to identify BBC premises, hospitals and a hospice where the abuse took place.
Scotland Yard is leading the national investigation into allegations against Savile and other figures in the entertainment industry. So far 589 people have come forward with information relating to the scandal, with a total of 450 complaints made against Savile himself.
John Cameron, head of child protection for the NSPCC, told The Guardian: "It is very clear that Savile assaulted very young children and that he was a prolific paedophile, there is no doubt about that.
"We want this to mark a cultural shift so that if a child speaks out about someone, we take what they are saying seriously and we act upon it always in future
The investigation has been separated into three strands: allegations involving Savile, those involving Savile and others, and those involving others.
So far detectives working on the inquiry, called Operation Yewtree, have questioned ten people, including comedians Jim Davidson and Freddie Starr, DJ Dave Lee Travis and PR guru Max Clifford. They all deny any wrongdoing.
Yesterday the Crown Prosecution Service confirmed that it had received a file on a man in his 60s from police.
Operation Yewtree officers handed a full file of evidence to the CPS last month on a man from London arrested on December 10 on suspicion of sexual offences.
And the CPS confirmed it is now giving investigative advice on a total of four other people who have been interviewed: a man in his 60s from Surrey, a man in his 80s from Berkshire, a man in his 70s from London, and most recently a man in his 60s from Warwickshire.
The NSPCC reported a surge in calls after the publicity surrounding claims against Savile, believed to be the most prolific sex offender police have ever dealt with

Link : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9794929/Savile-abused-children-as-young-as-ten-report-expected-to-say.html#

Also this from Chris Spiveys blog great post (some bad language)

Derek! Who The F*** Is Derek?
I feel sure that most of you know who Derek Laud is by now. However, for the benefit of those who don’t, all you need to know can be found right here. Moreover, there is plenty of new information for those of you who think you know the nonce.

Laud started his rise to infamy as a researcher working in Slaggy Thatchers government during the mid-1980′s. However, his aspirations to become a Politician were dealt a blow in May 1986 when he stood for election for a seat in Wandsworth council’s Graveney ward. However, despite winning 937 votes, it wasn’t quite enough to secure a seat.

Never the less, by the late 1980’s Laud was a parliamentary aide to Slaggy, as well as being her main speech writer. His talent with words was also extended to writing speeches for Michael ‘Tarzan’ Heseltine & Alan ‘nonce’ Clarke.

Course, as we now know, Thatcher’s government was infested with vile paedophiles, most of whom were cruel and sadistic to the extreme.

All, and I mean all, of her top ministers were – and some still are – an extreme danger to children. So, bearing that in mind along with the fact that Slaggy Thatcher played hostess to Jimmy Savile for 11 consecutive Christmas’s, it doesn’t take a genius to work out that the old bitch is of the same ilk.

Our current Prime Minister, the obnoxious David Cameron also happened to be Slaggy’s protégé. In saying that, do not assume that I am hinting that Cameron is a vile deviant. I am telling you that he is. At best, Cameron is actively protecting paedophiles of the worst kind. There is only one sort of man that would do that.

This then, was the world that Laud inhabited and as such, it should come as no surprise to anyone that Laud was amongst the vilest, most depraved and dangerous of the whole foul lot of them.

Laud had also been a fund raiser for Slaggy Thatcher’s 1987 election campaign alongside the odious, uncharismatic Lord Alistair McAlpine. He also did the same for John ‘nice peas Norma’ Major in his 1992 election campaign.

It is true to say then, that Laud was so well thought of within the Tory Party, that Major deemed him worthy of a mention in his autobiography, Moving on from Westminster, as did Alan Clarke in his successful series of Diaries.
Having said that, there is no denying that Laud is somewhat of an Enigma. Certainly, he is unforgettable. He is also extremely intelligent, speaks with an accent worthy of the aristocracy, is impeccably well mannered, athletic, and can be as charming as they come. At the same time, he has the caustic sarcasm usually associated with drag queens such as Lily Savage. He also happens to be Black, which back in the day was a true rarity in British Politics.

So rare in fact, that I think I’m right in saying that there was only three Black Politicians in England at that time. And, although technically Laud wasn’t a politician (not through want of trying), he certainly moved exclusively in their circles.

Course, back then, Black Politicians such as the Labour MP Bernie Grant could find racist undertones in practically anything voiced by a White person. Laud on the other hand, appears to have almost revelled in being in such a tiny minority within such an inherently, albeit covertly racist, elite institution.

Laud drew even more attention to himself, by becoming the first and only black member of the Monday Club, an ultra right wing Conservative Party pressure group which supported repatriation of immigrants and the apartheid regime in South Africa.

Interestingly enough, South Africa is where the vile Paedophile is residing at this moment in time, presumably having buggered off over there as the pressure on him mounted over here in the UK.

As a footnote to the Monday Club, it is most interesting to note that the current Home Secretary, Theresa May was once the covertly racist clubs, Chairman. May is currently under fire from pressure groups who accuse her of breaking many Human-Rights laws and discriminating against British citizens who are married to non E.U members. I have actually been singled out and asked to report on these new immigration laws that were implemented on July 9 2012. Unfortunately, whilst not wanting to trivialise the issue – since it is anything but that – there are much more urgent issues that have been passed my way that need dealing with. And as such, I just don’t have the time.

Another prominent Monday Club member was the now disgraced Billericay MP Harvey Proctor who resigned his seat following a scandal that involved rent boys and spanking… Choice.

Coincidentally enough, the vacant post was also taken over by Theresa May. Proctor spent a year on the dole following the perverted scandal before opening a shirt shop in which he hung a sign reading, ‘Shirtlifters Will Not Be Prosecuted’.
The disgraced former MP had set up this venture after his former colleagues from parliamentary Lala nonceland had financially backed him to the tune of £75,000, some of which came from Jeffrey Archer and the then deputy prime minister Michael Heseltine. Hmmm, not the first time then, that ‘Tarzan’ has been mentioned in this article.

The shirt emporium has now long since closed and no one’s seen hide nor hair of Proctor since. But **** him, he’s probably been murdered. They do do that though, don’t they, don’t cha know.

Read rest here to long to post

Link : http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=8425

Sharon

Cidersomerset

11th January 2013, 09:12

Thanks Learninglight they were doing a update on the news this morning.
The news report on TV just sounded like a PR exercise in damge limitation
imo....

BBC websight.....

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.Jimmy Savile scandal: Police to publish inquiry report Sexual abuse allegations against Jimmy Savile emerged a year after his death Continue reading the main story

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The scale of sexual offending carried out by Jimmy Savile will be set out later in a joint report by the Metropolitan Police and the NSPCC.
Revelations that Savile had sexually abused girls prompted hundreds of other victims to come forward.These included those who said
they were attacked on BBC premises.The report is expected to reveal that Savile's abuse extended to many hospitals, and that he
allegedly assaulted someone at a hospice.The television presenter died at the age of 84 in October 2011, a year before allegations
emerged in an ITV documentary.

Historical abuse

Friday's report, called Giving Victims a Voice, will set out what Scotland Yard and the NSPCC have discovered about Jimmy Savile
since they launched the inquiry - Operation Yewtree - three months ago.By mid-December, police had recorded almost 200
allegations against him including 31 rapes, following information from 450 victims.

"The detective leading the investigation has described Savile, whose crimes are thought to span 50 years, as a "predatory sex offender".

The report is expected to show that Savile carried out a large number of sexual assaults on BBC premises, including Television Centre
in west London where the children's programme Jim'll Fix It was recorded.About a dozen hospitals are believed to have been identified
by victims as locations where abuse was carried out, and at least one allegation has been made that Savile sexually assaulted someone
in a hospice.The Crown Prosecution Service will also publish a review of a decision in 2009 not to charge Savile with sexual offences
after investigations by police in Surrey and Sussex.

'Cathartic process'

Liz Dux, from Slater and Gordon Solicitors, who is representing many of the victims, said the police inquiry would bring them justice.
She said: "Operation Yewtree has given them validity. For many of them they have been able to give their statement for the first time
in circumstances where they have been dealt with sensitively and they have been believed.This has been a very cathartic process
for them. Now that the report is out they hope that they can move on to the inquiries, hope that the inquiries are dealt with as swiftly
as possible, and that the civil claims will be concluded and that they can get on with the rest of their lives."

The allegations prompted a series of investigations, including three at the BBC and another by the Department of Health into his role
at Broadmoor hospital.A report by former Sky News chief Nick Pollard into the the dropping of a BBC Newsnight investigation into
Savile said the decision was "flawed" and plunged the corporation into "chaos and confusion".Operation Yewtree has three strands
- claims against Savile, claims against Savile and others, and claims against others.Deborah Cogger says she was abused by Jimmy
Savile at a children's home, and now feels "believed"One victim, Deborah Cogger, was abused by Savile when she was aged 14 at
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Duncroft, an approved school for girls in Staines, Surrey, in 1974.She said she hoped publication of the police report would help to
bring things to an end."It's helped me and I'm sure it's helped a lot of others too," she said."Just to be able to finally be believed
- it's not even telling the story - it's being believed."I think it's given a lot of people closure, not just the Savile case, abuse in
general. Now it's being spoken about, it's been brought to the fore, and for a lot of historical cases it's helped a lot of people. "

Speaking to BBC News, Childline founder Esther Rantzen said: "What worries me is, did various organisations - be they hospitals,
or the BBC, or other broadcasters - turn a blind eye, turn a deaf ear, in order to protect their product, which was Jimmy Savile
the broadcaster?"She added the "positive news" coming out of the scandal was that the "NSPCC helpline has had a vast increase
in calls from adults who are worried about children who may be suffering today".

Savile was a BBC Radio 1 DJ as well as a presenter of Top Of The Pops and Jim'll Fix It on the BBC, and was knighted in 1990.

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Cidersomerset

11th January 2013, 10:56

A joint police/NSPCC report into Jimmy Savile says he was "a prolific, predatory sex offender"
who abused adults and children on an unprecedented scale over six decades.Some 214 crimes
were recorded across 28 police force areas, including 34 of rape or penetration, police say.
The allegations date from 1955 in Manchester, with the last allegation dating to 2009.
One victim was eight years old.

Streamed interviews on this link about report,

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Cidersomerset

11th January 2013, 11:24

ITV NEWS WEBSIGHT.....

10:06am, Fri 11 Jan 2013Savile was 'prolific offender'
Police slated in Savile victims reports
- last updated Fri 11 Jan 2013UK
Jimmy Savile
Jimmy Savile report

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Jimmy Savile was "a prolific, predatory sex offender" who could have been prosecuted for offences against at least three victims while he was alive, two separate reports said today.

The disgraced TV presenter used his celebrity status to "hide in plain sight", with 214 criminal offences now recorded against him across 28 police forces, a report by Scotland Yard and the NSPCC found.

It also revealed that Savile abused his victims at 14 medical sites including hospitals, mental health units and even a hospice.

Alison Levitt QC, legal adviser to the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP), said Savile could have been prosecuted in 2009 had police taken victims more seriously.

“
I would like to take the opportunity to apologise for the shortcomings in the part played by the CPS in these cases.

If this report and my apology are to serve their full purpose, then this must be seen as a watershed moment.
– DPP Keir Starmer 600 people came forward to report sex abuse in the UK-wide scandal.
450 of the 600 cases related to Savile.
214 criminal offences were recorded against Savile, including 34 rapes, of which 28 of those were under the age of 18.
126 indecent acts by Savile.
The first offence took place in 1955 and the last in 2009.
73% of victims were under the age of 18, with 82% of victims being female.
Savile's youngest victim was aged eight, and oldest aged 47.

A total of 450 people have come forward alleging sexual abuse against Savile since October, and within the recorded crimes, there are 34 rapes and 126 indecent acts, the police and NSPCC report said.

Of his victims, 73% were children, with the total victim age range between eight and 47 years old at the time of the offences.

“
Savile's offending footprint was vast, predatory and opportunistic. He cannot face justice today, but we hope this report gives some comfort to his hundreds of victims. They have been listened to and taken seriously.
– Commander Peter Spindler, who is leading the national investigation into Savile's abuse
Mr Spindler said so far 617 people had made contact with officers investigating claims against Savile and other figures in the entertainment industry, with 450 directly relating to Savile.

The police report found that the earliest reported offence committed by Savile was in Manchester in 1955, and the final reported allegation was in 2009.

The offences cover the period when Savile worked at the BBC between 1965 and 2006 and include allegations linked to the final recording of Top of the Pops.

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They also involve the period when he worked at Leeds General Infirmary between 1965 and 1995.

Abuse at Stoke Mandeville Hospital took place between 1965 and 1988, while at Duncroft School, a children's home, the allegations cover a period between 1970 and 1978.

The peak was between 1966 and 1976, when he was aged between 40 and 50.

The police and NSPCC report said Savile's offending presents "a potential watershed".

It concluded that Savile was an "opportunistic individual who used his celebrity status as a powerful tool to coerce and control" his victims.

The report said it would be "naive" to view the case as the isolated behaviour of a "rogue celebrity" - but the "context of the 1960s and 1970s" need to be recognised.

"It was an age of different social attitudes and the workings of the criminal justice system at the time would have reflected this," it said.

But the report stopped short of apportioning blame to other institutions and agencies that may have "missed past opportunities" to stop Savile.

It said these institutions must do "all they can to make their procedures for safeguarding children and vulnerable adults as robust and rigorous as possible".

Peter Watt, director of child protection advice and awareness at NSPCC, said Savile was one of the most prolific sex offenders the NSPCC has dealt with in its 129-year history.

"It's clear Savile cunningly built his entire life into gaining access to vulnerable children."

Mr Watt said the publicity surrounding the Savile inquiry had triggered a surge in abuse victims of offenders other than Savile to come forward - with 5,000 calls taken by its hotline in October alone.

“
The sheer scale of Savile's abuse over six decades simply beggars belief. He is without doubt one of the most prolific sex offenders we have ever come across and every number represents a victim that will never get justice now he is dead. But with this report we can at least show his victims that they have been taken seriously and their suffering has been recognised.
– Peter Watt, NSPCC
Leeds Teaching Hospitals said it would look into any complaints made to police about incidents at Leeds General Infirmary and St James's University Hospital, where Savile worked as a volunteer and fundraiser.

It said it would also investigate information given directly to the Trust about this "extremely distressing subject".

“
In early December, the Trust published the terms of reference for its internal investigation into matters relating to Jimmy Savile's long-standing involvement with the Leeds Teaching Hospitals as a volunteer and fundraiser.

This will be a thorough and detailed piece of work and will be carried out in conjunction with parallel investigations by the Department of Health and other NHS trusts. Work is now under way and we expect our report will be ready towards the end of this year.

As part of this work our panel will look at approaches from people who have contacted the Trust directly to share information on this extremely distressing subject.

The panel will also examine in detail any information the police pass to us about incidents reported to them at Leeds General Infirmary and St James's University Hospital."
– Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust
Here is a list of the hospitals where Savile offended, including the number of offences and when they occurred.
Leeds General Infirmary (LGI) - 16 offences between 1965 and 1995.
Stoke Mandeville Hospital - 22 offences between 1965 and 1988.
Broadmoor Hospital - one offence in 1991.
Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust: St James University Hospital - one offence in 1962.
High Royds Hospital - one offence in 1989.
Dewsbury and District Hospital - one offence in 1969.
Wycombe General Hospital - one offence.
Great Ormond Street Hospital - one offence in 1971.
Ashworth Hospital- one offence in 1971.
Exeter Hospital - one offence in 1970.
Portsmouth Royal Hospital - one offence in 1964
St. Catherine's Hospital - one offence in 1964.
Saxondale Hospital - one offence in 1971.
Wheatfields Hospice - one offence in 1971.

The NSPCC can be contacted on 0808 800 5000.

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Cidersomerset

11th January 2013, 11:43

In amongst these investigations about abuse is the claims as stated on the radio this morning,
as recent as 2009 the Surry Police felt they were unable to persue Jimmy Saville on the evidence
of 'uncredible witness's' that would not be believed in court against powerfull celebs with contacts
and money to scupper any court case. Which to a degree is understandable, the problem with
all the talk today of, how can we stop this happenening again etc. Which is said after every
scandel until the next time. The question is how deep into the establishment does this go ?

We have suspicions all the way to the top as ritual abuse and sacrifice especially children
has gone on all thru history.So why should today be any different ? Thats where the
investigations should be kept open and more people start scrutinising our elites with
this in mind.Not a witch hunt ! Just bear it in mind as the elites have known for eons
Knowledge is power!

This is different to family/friend abuse which is a major problem, but different than
the ritual gratifacation that maybe occuring under our noses, as some researchers
suggest.

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Thatcher Aide Derek Laud (And Others) - A 'Retropective'

Friday, 11 January 2013 11:39
Posted by David Icke

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'It would seem that Laud had recommended the recruitment of both Neil Hamilton
and his fellow Tory MP Michael Colvin as consultants for SNI. The website
Powerbase Info has this to say on the matter:

"In the late 1980s and early 1990s Strategy Network International paid for Conservative
MPs to visit South Africa. Conservative MPs Neil Hamilton and Michael Colvin both failed
to declare the trips on the members register of interests. Current Prime Minister David
Cameron also took advantage of a Strategy Network International trip to South Africa
in 1989. The trip was offered to the Conservative Research Department by Derek Laud,
who was employed by SNI and was later a contestant on the reality TV series Big Brother."

Hold up! Did that just say that our Prime Minister also went on an all expenses paid
holiday to South Africa courtesy of old Laudy boy? Well, well, well.'

Read More
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/78069-thatcher-aide-derek-laud-and-others-a-retropective

Cidersomerset

11th January 2013, 13:28

THE GUARDIAN ON LINE...........

Jimmy Savile abused children at 14 hospitals across six decades - report

Savile's offending footprint was vast, predatory and opportunistic as he 'groomed the nation', say Met police
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Sandra Laville and Josh Halliday

guardian.co.uk, Friday 11 January 2013 13.05 GMT

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The Met police and NSPCC report on Jimmy Savile details the scale of his sexual abuse of children from 1955 to 2009. Photograph: Photoshot/Getty Images

Jimmy Savile abused children across six decades at 14 hospitals including Great Ormond Street and a children's hospice, according to a police report. He also carried out 14 alleged assaults at schools.

Savile case explained
1Key findings
2Full Met and NSPCC report (pdf)
3Full CPS report (pdf)
4Jimmy Savile: police report timeline

Commander Peter Spindler of the Metropolitan police said Savile used his fame and celebrity status to "hide in plain sight", adding that he had "groomed the nation".

The report into his activities reveals his offending spans from 1955 to 2009. Most of his victims were children – 73% – and he committed most of the offences when he was between 40 and 50 years old.

"The report paints a stark picture emphasising the tragic consequences of when vulnerability and power collide. His offending footprint was vast, predatory and opportunistic."

Some of the hospitals where the TV and radio presenter abused children are: Leeds general infirmary, Great Ormond Street, Exeter hospital, Saxondale mental health hospital in Nottinghamshire and Wheatfield hospice in Leeds, a Sue Ryder hospice for dying children.

According to the report, called Giving Victims a Voice, 450 victims have come forward to allege incidents, and Savile committed 214 criminal offences in 28 areas of England and Wales.

Savile offended while working at the BBC between 1965 and 2006 and at the final recording of Top of the Pops. Most of the victims were aged between 13 and 16.

Savile raped 34 people, including 28 children. He used every opportunity and every institution to which he had access because of his fame to target young people.

The report reveals Savile abused children at the BBC between 1959 and 2006 – his last offence took place at Top of the Pops in 2006 when he sexually assaulted a teenage girl on the show.

Fifty-seven of the allegations took place in 14 hospitals and a hospice in the UK. He assaulted 16 victims at Leeds general infirmary, one at Great Ormond Street hospital and he assaulted someone who was visiting a dying child at the Sue Ryder Wheatfield hospice in Leeds. At Great Ormond Street the child Savile abused died, but someone who witnessed what happened came forward.

He also assaulted children and young girls 33 times in TV and radio studios and there were 14 assaults in schools. Savile was invited into the schools – which have not been named – by children who wanted to appear on Jim'll Fix It, police said.

The youngest of Savile's victims was an eight-year-old boy who he touched sexually, and his last victim was a 46-year-old woman who was assaulted in 2009.

Detective Superintendent David Gray, who led the inquiry, said: "He has spent every minute of every working day thinking about this. Whenever an opportunity came along he took it. He picked on vulnerable victims and he was clever enough to choose people who he knew would not speak out."

Gray said he expected the number of crimes recorded to rise above 214.

The Crown Prosecution service said in a separate report released on Friday that had police and prosecutors taken a different view to allegations from four women as recently as 2007 Savile may have been brought to justice.

The director of public prosecutions, Kier Starmer QC, issued a statement on Savile's offending. He said the report by Alison Levitt QC on the CPS's handling of cases brought before it had concluded the investigations into four complaints from women by Surrey and Sussex police could have been dealt with differently.

"Whilst most of the complainants continue to speak warmly of the individual officers with whom they had contact, most of those spoken to by Ms Levitt QC have said that, had they been given more information by the police at the time of the investigation, and in particular had each been told that she was not the only woman to have complained, they would probably have been prepared to give evidence.

"Having spoken to the complainants, Ms Levitt QC has concluded that, although there are a number of imponderables, had the police and prosecutors taken a different approach a prosecution might have been possible in relation to three of the four allegations."

The CPS review revealed how Savile had batted away the allegations made by four women in 2007-08 of past abuse. He told Surrey police in 2009 that the sexual assault complaints against him were "invented" and an "occupational hazard" for a famous entertainer.

Savile made the comments when he was interviewed under caution. He told police he had a "policy" for dealing with sexual assault complaints made against him and that he had sued five newspapers in the past. A police log of the interview records Savile as saying: "If this [these allegations] does not disappear then my policy will swing into action".

His offending took place predominantly in Leeds and London, his home town and his main work location respectively.

Gray said Savile was not part of a paedophile ring but detectives were still investigating whether he was part of a lose network of paedophiles who knew each other and took advantage of their position to sexually abuse children.

The report said the institutions and agencies that missed past opportunities to stop Savile must do all they can to ensure their procedures for safeguarding children are as robust as possible.

"Only then can the victims who have come forward be reassured that it is unlikely to happen again."

Gray said: "The offences started before he was a BBC celebrity but it seems clear that his peak offending coincided with his peak status."

He said Savile did not order victims to be silent, he just abused them then discarded them. "His force of personality was powerful. He dismissed his victims afterwards; he did what he wanted to do then just discarded them and they were too frightened to speak out."

The prime minister's spokesman said: "These are further appalling allegations. What is required is that every organisation involved has to investigate what has gone on and get to the bottom of it.

"There are a series of investigations that were already ongoing into a number of hospitals. The Department of Health had already announced that Kate Lampard QC was overseeing those and she will also report to the secretary of state on what lessons can be learnt for the health system as a whole."

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THE SUN ONLINE.......

Predator Savile ‘groomed the nation’ police chief says

Scale of abuse over six decades 'beggars belief' - NSPCC

JIMMY Savile "groomed the nation" and should have been prosecuted at least three times, two shocking reports said today.

The perverted presenter, described as "a prolific, predatory sex offender” used his celebrity status to “hide in plain sight” and get away with his sickening crimes.

Commander Peter Spindler, who is leading the national investigation into Savile’s abuse, said: "Savile groomed the nation."

The Department of Public Prosecutions said Savile could have been brought to justice in 2009 if cops had taken victims seriously.

Separate reports by Scotland Yard and NSPCC found there were 214 criminal offences recorded against him across 28 police forces.

The shocking report found:

- 450 people had alleged they had been sexually abused by the BBC legend.

- Savile was accused of 34 RAPES

- He carried out 126 INDECENT ACTS

- 73 PER CENT of his victims were children

- Victims ranged between the ages of eight and 47-years-old

- Savile offended in schools after pupils wrote to him Jim'll Fix It letters

- He carried out an indecent assault at the LAST BBC Top of The Pops, aged 79, in 2006 on a female child between 13 and 16 years.

It also revealed that Savile abused his victims at 14 medical sites including hospitals, mental health units and even a hospice.

One of his alleged victims included a young patient at Great Ormond Street Hospital - the child later died from an illness.

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The Independent on line similar story.....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/savile-the-full-shocking-truth-revealed-in-official-report-8447146.html

Cidersomerset

11th January 2013, 13:31

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Published on 11 Jan 2013

Commander Peter Spindler of the Metropolitan Police details the extent of sexual
abuse and rape allegedly carried out by the late radio DJ Jimmy Savile over a 54
year period.

Sabrina

11th January 2013, 13:38

http://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/2013/01/11/savile-report/

Via the needle blog - as he's said before, surprise, surprise, no investigation into the high profile names of the British establishment with links to Savile....

For someone who has been following this evolving scandal, I’m still shocked by this report.

I’ll write more when I’m less angry. Right now any article I’d write would just be a string of expletives.

I’ll satisfy myself, for the time being, with giving a link to Mark Williams-Thomas’ Twitter feed – Here

https://twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas

And a link to this photo gallery of Savile with powerful people – Here

http://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/2012/10/19/how-did-he-get-away-with-it-jimmy-saviles-photo-album/

and a pix of Savile's Scottish home:

http://newspaceman.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/lamb-chops.html

Sabrina

11th January 2013, 13:42

sorry deleted this..........................

Cidersomerset

11th January 2013, 21:11

A day of appologies to victims.........

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Published on 11 Jan 2013

Complaints made to police before the abuse scandal emerged were treated with unjustified caution, a report by a leading QC says.Police and prosecutors missed a chance to convict Jimmy Savile for sex offences against three victims when he was alive, a report has found.The report, by Alison Levitt QC, legal adviser to the director of public prosecutions (DPP), said the opportunity passed by because they did not take claims seriously enough.Ms Levitt said there was nothing to suggest the victims had colluded in their stories, or that they were unreliable.The problem was that their claims were treated "with a degree of caution which was neither justified nor required".Surrey Police received an allegation in May 2007 that Savile had sexually assaulted a teenage girl at Duncroft Children's Home in the late 1970s.In the investigation that followed, two more allegations emerged - the first that in about 1973 Savile had sexually assaulted a girl aged about 14 outside Stoke Mandeville Hospital.The second was that in the 1970s he had suggested to a girl aged about 17, again at Duncroft, that she perform a sex act on him. Surrey Police also found out about a complaint made in March 2008 to Sussex Police that Savile had sexually assaulted a woman in her early 20s in a caravan in Sussex in about 1970.

The Surrey force consulted with the CPS about all four allegations, and in October 2009 it was decided that no prosecution could be brought because the alleged victims would not support police action.

Ms Levitt found that Surrey Police did not tell any of the alleged victims that other complaints had been made.

Sussex Police told the complainant in the 2008 allegation that corroboration was needed and the CPS did not question why victims would not support court action or seek to build a case.

The victims told Ms Levitt that if they had known that other people were making complaints, they probably would have been prepared to give evidence in court.

The report concluded that "had the police and prosecutors taken a different approach a prosecution might have been possible in relation to three of the four allegations".

Cidersomerset

11th January 2013, 21:16

Surrey Police said they let the victims down and will learn lessons...........We have been saying this for decades, it won't happen again!!

QoC-agNH6A0

Published on 11 Jan 2013

A new NSPCC report called Giving Victims a Voice reveals the depths of depravity that Jimmy Savile stooped to during his 54 years of abuse. His youngest victim was 8, the oldest 47. .

Cidersomerset

11th January 2013, 21:57

Savile: how could he get away with it?

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Published on 11 Jan 2013

Krishnan talks to Mark Williams-Thomas, the former detective behind the documentary
which first exposed the allegations against Jimmy Savile last year, and former health
minister Edwina Currie, who appointed Savile to head a Broadmoor taskforce.

Cidersomerset

11th January 2013, 22:13

Jimmy Savile scandal: How will it affect future abuse cases?

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Savile was "hiding in plain sight" during his career, according to the report

Jimmy Savile's ability to commit hundreds of serious sexual offences inside public institutions,
"hiding in plain sight" as Friday's police and NSPCC report on his crimes puts it, seems almost
incredible. And for his victims, it is indeed credibility which is the issue at the heart of this scandal.
A number have said the most important change that can come from the countless inquiries is
that future victims of sexual abuse are believed. The Crown Prosecution Service agrees the
approach to credibility in sexual assault cases now has to change. But there is a difference
between being believed by a police officer and being credible in a court of law

'Adversarial places'

Some accusations of sexual abuse turn out to be untrue or mistaken, as the Lord McAlpine
case recently demonstrated. Police and prosecutors are hoping to draw a line under this
affair by stressing their commitment to victims, but apologies and sympathetic statements
do not alter the fact that courts are necessarily adversarial and unemotional places.
It would be a mistake to give the impression that the criminal justice system intends
giving those making allegations of sexual abuse an easy ride. That said, there are ways
in which prosecutors might improve the way they treat sexual abuse allegations.
In her report for the Crown Prosecution Service, the QC Alison Levitt is critical of the
way police and prosecutors dealt with four separate reports of abuse against Savile
received by Surrey and Sussex police between 2007 and 2009. "On the face of it,
the allegations made were both serious and credible; the prosecutor should have
recognised this and sought to 'build' a prosecution," she concludes. Her report
suggests the prosecutor should not have been so quick to dismiss the prospect
of pursuing Savile just because complainants were reluctant to go to court.
"He appears to have treated the obstacles as fatal to the prospects of a prosecution
taking place," she writes.The director of public prosecutions, Keir Starmer, takes the
point. He said: "Police and prosecutors have approached complaints of sexual
offences with a degree of caution which is not generally justified."Many people feel
that for sexual offences, where it is 'one person's word against another's' and there
is no or little scientific or other evidence to support the allegation, no prosecution
should be brought."

'Rigorous test'

"Unfortunately, this has often resulted in sexual offences being subjected to a
different and, in reality, more rigorous test than that applied to other crimes,"
he added.An important point with the allegations against Savile received by
Surrey police was that there were more than one. The victims told the Levitt
inquiry that had they known they were not the only one to have complained,
they would probably have been prepared to give evidence. So should the
detectives have revealed to the women there were others making similar
allegations? In the interests of justice and public safety should they have
abandoned normal protocol? On Friday, Surrey police said their decision
not to share accounts between victims had been looked at. The decision
was initially taken "to ensure the integrity of evidence so there could be
no suggestion of collusion, contamination or prompting between accounts".
This is a serious concern.

Comparing notes

Courts have been known to throw out cases where multiple victims were
alerted to the existence of others. However, Surrey police said they
recognised there was a balance to be struck between the risk of
disclosure between victims and the confidence of those victims to
give evidence in court.

None of this is easy.

If victims of an abuser contact each other seeking support and then
compare notes, they may inadvertently make it impossible to stage
a successful prosecution.There is always a tension between the
sympathy people naturally feel for victims of crime and a legal
system that must remain dispassionate.

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Cidersomerset

12th January 2013, 08:46

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11 January 2013 10:36 | By MSN UK News

Jimmy Savile abuse report: key findings

Jim James, PA Archive

Children as young as eight were abused by Jimmy Savile, according to a joint Metropolitan Police and NSPCC report.

A total of 214 crimes were recorded across 28 police force areas, including 34 of rape or penetration. Allegations span a period of 50 years.

The report's main findings
There are 57 allegations where hospital premises (this includes hospices) have been identified, 33 identifying television or radio studios and 14 relating to schools.
Savile offended at 13 hospitals, including Great Ormond Street in London, and one offence was recorded at Wheatfields Hospice in Leeds in 1977.
A total of 16 offences were committed at Leeds General Infirmary between 1965-1995, and 22 at Stoke Mandeville Hospital between 1965-88.
At Duncroft School there are allegations of offences between 1970 and 1978 when he was a regular visitor.
Savile's youngest victim was an eight-year-old boy.
The oldest victim was aged 47.
The earliest allegation dates from 1955 in Manchester and the last in 2009.
Offences were carried out at the BBC between 1965 and 2006, including at the last-ever Top of the Pops recording.
Most of the offending took place between 1966 and 1976.
Around 73% of victims were under 18.
Most of those abused were aged 13 to 16.
The report finds "no clear evidence" that Savile operated in paedophile ring, although "whether he was part of an informal network" is still being investigated.
Savile is described as "hiding in plain sight and using his celebrity status and fundraising activity to gain uncontrolled access to vulnerable people across six decades." The report says that "the vast majority of his victims did not feel they could speak out and it’s apparent that some of the small number who did had their accounts dismissed by those in authority including parents and carers."
The location of offending is predominately in Leeds and London, Jimmy Savile's home town and his main work location.
The reports describes Savile's status and activities as "unique." They conclude: "This is a potential watershed - a growing number of victims of non-recent sexual abuse now have confidence that that they will be taken seriously by the authorities when in the past they did not."

In total 14 inquiries or reviews have been launched since ITV broadcast a documentary on allegations of abuse in on 4 October 2012.

Examples of victim accounts

The report gives examples of victim accounts of sexual abuse by Jimmy Savile, which are now recorded as crimes:
1960: a 10-year-old boy saw Savile outside a hotel and asked for his autograph. They went into the hotel reception where he was seriously sexually assaulted. (Classified as assault by penetration).
1965: a 14-year-old girl met Savile in a nightclub. She later visited his home and was raped. (Classified as rape).
1972: a 12-year-old boy and two female friends attended a recording of Top of the Pops. During a break in filming Savile groped his genitals and the breasts of his two friends. (Classified as sexual assault).
1973: a 16-year-old female hospital patient was befriended by Savile. He led her to an office where he kissed her, touched her inappropriately and then subjected her to a sexual assault. (Classified as sexual assault).
1974: Savile took a 14-year-old schoolgirl for a drive in his car and seriously sexually assaulted her. (Classified as assault by penetration).
2009: a 43-year-old woman was sexually assaulted by Savile when he put his hand up her skirt while talking to her on a train journey between Leeds and London. (Classified as sexual assault).

The report gives a breakdown of Savile's victims by gender and age. A total of 18 girls under the age of 10 were assaulted, while 10 boys under the age of 10 were assaulted.

Reaction

The police, politicians, charities and other organisations have reacted to the publication of the report.

- In a statement, the Metropolitan police described Jimmy Savile as "a prolific, predatory sex offender," adding the scale of his abuse was believed to be "unprecedented in the UK." "It is believed Savile was able, through his celebrity status, to 'hide in plain sight' while abusing children and adults over six decades," said Commander Peter Spindler, who is leading the Savile investigations. "It paints a stark picture emphasising the tragic consequences of when vulnerability and power collide."

- A Department of Health spokesman said: "This report highlights the shocking scale of offending by Jimmy Savile over five decades and shows the need to learn lessons from his crimes. When these allegations first came to light the department and relevant trusts started work to investigate these issues, and we expect any new NHS organisations named today to do the same."

- John Cameron, head of child protection for the NSPCC, which conducted the Savile inquiry with the Met police, said: "It is very clear that Savile assaulted very young children and that he was a prolific paedophile, there is no doubt about that. We want this to mark a cultural shift so that if a child speaks out against someone, we take what they are saying seriously and we act upon it always in future. We have [moved] some way towards this but we need to move further."

- Peter Saunders, founder of the National Association for People Abused as Children, said: "The silver lining in all of this is that abusers might think twice about abusing children because the cat is out of the bag, and we have got to be optimistic that this does mark a significant change in attitudes."

Earth Angel

12th January 2013, 19:32

but no investigation still of the Royals and high ranking political figures??? ...... how can he have been SO close to such important people and they didn't know what he was up to?? this is ridiculous!

avid

12th January 2013, 19:46

The evidence is pointing to complicity, so sad. He was a procurer for the secret societies, and whomsoever participated in those ghastly procedures. He ingratiated himself into those circles who needed the 'procurer'. The ranks of the 'higher echelons' have closed during this investigation. However - there is a trail of evidence, and that will follow the perpetrators to their end. By association, and in all honesty would you have befriended this crass low-life being a Royal unless there was another agenda...? No way!!! Looking forward to more whistleblowers then!!!

Taurean

12th January 2013, 21:21

I thought this worth reprinting here from David Ickes website.

This record-breaking paedophile and child procurer for the rich and famous was the close friend of Lord Mountbatten, Prince Philip, Prince Charles, Margaret Thatcher, Denis Thatcher and others in her paedophile-infested administrations. Yet Operation Yewtree which is supposed to be investigating his crimes and accomplices has not interviewed a single royal or political figure - just arrested a few aging entertainers and media people to give the impression that they are doing a proper investigation.

They are not.

Yewtree is a gigantic smokescreen and cover-up of Savile's accomplices and clients to prevent what would be the collapse of the royal and political establishment. But some of us are not having it and the truth will come out.

When you read here the staggering scale of what he did over more than 50 years all over Britain and yet he was never charged with anything - does anyone think that this could have happened without protection from the highest levels of the royal and political establishment?

Please.

Do they think we are so stupid as to believe that the most prolific child abuser in British history could have been so close to royalty and a sitting prime minister without British Intelligence seriously checking him out and knowing what he was doing over decades? I mean, how long would it have taken them given the scale of his activities? Ten minutes? But then some at MI5 were no doubt on his client list.

How do you sleep at night Yewtree?

We must not let them get away with this - where are you mainstream media when it comes to the blatant royal and political connections to Savile?

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines

Cidersomerset

12th January 2013, 21:43

Yes the problem is all the focus will be on Saville and a few others later, Like with
the Diana Murder the establishment is well protectedby the Royal constabulary &
the Royal courts & the Royal Judicial system backed by the Royal corporate
media.....It will take another Cromwell to get at them !!....

Thanks Taureen I was going to post this earlier but got side tracked ,,,,,

'Savile spent every waking minute thinking about abuse': Official report reveals full
scale of DJ's six decades of sex attacks across the whole of Britain

Saturday, 12 January 2013 11:10

Posted by David Icke

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This record-breaking paedophile and child procurer for the rich and famous was the
close friend of Lord Mountbatten, Prince Philip, Prince Charles, Margaret Thatcher,
Denis Thatcher and others in her paedophile-infested administrations.
Yet Operation Yewtree which is supposed to be investigating his crimes and
accomplices has not interviewed a single royal or political figure - just arrested a
few aging entertainers and media people to give the impression that they are doing
a proper investigation.

They are not.

Yewtree is a gigantic smokescreen and cover-up of Savile's accomplices and clients
to prevent what would be the collapse of the royal and political establishment. But
some of us are not having it and the truth will come out.

When you read here the staggering scale of what he did over more than 50 years
all over Britain and yet he was never charged with anything - does anyone think
that this could have happened without protection from the highest levels of the
royal and political establishment?

Please.

Do they think we are so stupid as to believe that the most prolific child abuser in
British history could have been so close to royalty and a sitting prime minister
without British Intelligence seriously checking him out and knowing what he was
doing over decades? I mean, how long would it have taken them given the scale of
his activities? Ten minutes? But then some at MI5 were no doubt on his client list.

How do you sleep at night Yewtree?

We must not let them get away with this - where are you mainstream media when
it comes to the blatant royal and political connections to Savile?

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Cidersomerset

12th January 2013, 21:49

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Published on 12 Jan 2013

More than 50 of Jimmy Savile's sex abuse victims are to seek to compensation
for the trauma they suffered at the hands of the disgraced DJ. But as well as
suing his estate, the victims could look for damages from the taxpayer.

bogeyman

12th January 2013, 21:50

Would it be a conspiracy of silence? After all there were some who were suspicious of his activities and others remained quiet. But it shows you how easy people are fooled or taken in not just by this individual but by mass perception of who or what someone is.

Cidersomerset

12th January 2013, 21:58

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Published on 12 Jan 2013

Savile 'groomed the nation' using his celebrity status to avoid capture Many of his offences were on BBC's premises including the Top of the Pops 'live' attack Savile even preyed on a terminally ill child at Great Ormond Street The DJ spent 'every walking minute' thinking about abusing children There are 214 confirmed offences including 34 rapes Payouts could run into millions of pounds Woman who was abused by Savile aged 13 tells of anger at 'missed opportunities' to snare paedophile

A shocking report into Jimmy Savile's six decades of sex abuse left the BBC and NHS open to huge payouts yesterday.

Many of his 214 known offences were on BBC premises and he even attacked a girl during the last edition of Top of the Pops in 2006.

The paedophile also preyed on young people at a hospice and 13 hospitals, including a terminally ill child at Great Ormond Street.

The victim, aged 11 or 12, told relatives before dying that Savile had touched them inappropriately.

The Scotland Yard and NSPCC report said the DJ spent 'every waking minute' thinking about abusing children and used his celebrity status to that end. Eighteen girls and ten boys aged under ten were abused -- the youngest being a boy of eight targeted at his school.

Allegations of sexual assault have been made by 450 individuals, aged up to 47, and some have yet to be interviewed.

The 214 confirmed offences included 34 rapes and stretch across 28 police force areas. The most recent was in 2009 but they date back as far as 1955.

Lawyers for the victims have already instigated compensation claims against the BBC, NHS and education authorities for failing to stop the serial predator. The payouts could run into millions of pounds.

Victims said it was shocking it had taken so long to expose the DJ's predatory behaviour. They said senior managers who missed opportunities to stop him should be named and shamed.
The BBC have said that the 2006 incident on Top of the Pops where Savile is accused of attacking a girl is an unfounded allegation.

Caroline Moore, who is paralysed, said Savile abused her as a star-struck 13-year-old recovering in the children's ward at Stoke Mandeville Hospital in 1971.

The 53-year-old, from Glasgow, said: 'I am still very angry there were so many missed opportunities, not only from producers and managers at the BBC who promoted and protected him, but heads of hospitals and schools that turned a blind eye.

'So many people knew what he was doing, mainly to vulnerable children, and did nothing.

'They need to take a long look at themselves and those senior managers in positions of responsibility should be named and shamed.'

Kim Anderson, a 19-year-old waitress in a restaurant that many of the DJs and stars of the 70s frequented, was invited on to Savile's Radio 1 Roadshow bus in 1980.

He lunged as she sat down on a couch, and she had to fight him off as he tried to kiss and touch her.

Speaking from her home in France, she said: 'I do hold the BBC to blame -- they created a very powerful man and then let him get away with unspeakable things.

'They gave him a platform for fame and credibility, and when people realised what he was doing, they just turned a blind eye and did nothing.'

The 37-page report, Giving Victims a Voice, provides detailed findings of Operation Yewtree, the police investigation launched after an ITV documentary exposed Savile's paedophilia last year.

Peter Spindler, the Metropolitan Police commander in charge of the inquiry, said Savile had 'groomed the nation' and used his celebrity to 'hide in plain sight' during his offending.

As the sheer scale of his depravity was revealed,

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Cidersomerset

12th January 2013, 22:04

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Published on 11 Jan 2013

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In Britain, Jimmy Savile was more than just a celebrity. He was the nation's favourite eccentric uncle — a beloved children's entertainer, host of a wildly popular music show, and a relentless charity fundraiser.

And he was, the world now knows, a voracious sexual predator.

Hundreds of people — boys and girls, who were aged as young as 8 and as old as 47 at the time — have come forward to tell British police that Savile, who died in 2011 at age 84, sexually abused them.

The case has consumed Britain. And perhaps it was because the entertainer — with his penchant for flashy track suits, funny sunglasses and big cigars — was held in such affection that the backlash has been so powerful.

"It could be said that he groomed a nation," said Commander Peter Spindler, head of the Metropolitan Police's investigation into Savile. "He was hiding in plain sight."

Savile's once-stellar reputation is in tatters. He is the regular butt of jokes. The British government will consider if his knighthood can be revoked. And even Savile's gravestone was pictured in the tabloid Sun newspaper, smashed to pieces and thrown into a dumpster.

Part of the public's horror stems from the sheer number of people alleging abuse — about 450 of them, police said. Nearly three-quarters were under 18, the majority were female, and most were aged 13 to 16.

Three months in, the police investigation has turned up 214 offences, including 34 rapes. Police say they expect the numbers to rise as more allegations are investigated.

There is also the fact that some of the assaults occurred against the backdrop of important British institutions: at the BBC, at schools, and even at hospitals.

"It is now clear that Savile was . . . using his celebrity status and fundraising activity to gain controlled access to vulnerable people across six decades," reads Scotland Yard's report, entitled "Giving Victims a Voice."

The report is a litany of horrific sexual offences, committed by Savile as early as 1955 and as late as 2009. Some of them include an "assault by penetration" of a 10-year-old boy, who approached him outside a hotel in 1960 looking for an autograph.

Five years later Savile raped a 14-year-old girl he met at a nightclub, the report said; about a decade later another 14-year-old girl was sexually assaulted after a drive in his car. And one woman said she was abused in hospital as she recovered from surgery, the Associated Press reported.

"I find it quite scary that people who had the power to stop him didn't use that power . . . and he went on to do the most horrific things to people in the most awful circumstances," said Caroline Moore, who said Savile abused her as she recovered from a spinal operation in 1971.

During that decade, Savile was also a regular visitor at the Duncroft Approved School for Girls, whose students were often described as troubled. Pupils there told the police — and ultimately the British press — that Savile would exchange cigarettes and rides in his car for sex.

"He only picked on the most vulnerable," said Detective Superintendent David Gray, the investigation's senior officer. "He was clever enough to know the ones less likely to speak out against him."

Savile's celebrity status also made his victims think their stories might be discounted, both the report and witnesses to the abuse said.

Sue Thompson, a former BBC employee, said she saw Savile groping a girl whose age she estimated as 14, but she didn't report it.

"Everybody saw him as Sir Jimmy, the great charity worker, et cetera. And you're like you're saying, 'Oh no, he's not. This is what I saw,' " Thompson told ITV's Exposure program late last year.

"You're just one person in millions standing up and actually saying no," Thompson said. "It's that fear of people probably not believing you."

There were early reports of wrongdoing by Savile, Scotland Yard noted, including in 2003, 2007, 2008 and 2009. But a decision not to prosecute was made.

In the wake of the ITV story, investigations into the BBC's handling of Savile, and into their journalistic work on his case, were launched. And British authorities are also examining other aspects of the scandal, including how Savile gained access to health institutions and why the earlier reports didn't lead to prosecutions.

"That's the big question for British society," Spindler said. "How did he get away with it? Six decades of abuse?"

Cidersomerset

12th January 2013, 22:15

The trouble with all these headlines which will be tommorrows fish & chip paper as the old saying goes,
Is yes many people had suspisions but like alot of people in authority or given power even your Boss
in the work place its hard to accuse someone with out cast iron proof. In the Saville case many people
tried to say something even to various Police forces, but they were either not believed or did not have
enough evidence. As recent as 2009 the Surry Police had several witnesses but did not press pursue
for various reasons.

We suspect child peodiphiles are at the top of much of the elites around the world as David Icke &
others shout from the rafters, but without witness's we can only discuss it on forums like this &
hope some real detectives who may have links to people out of bounds may be brave enough
to follow them up.You only have to see Lord McAlpines reaction, he may well be innocent
but wealthy people have protection from the higher echolons of society and intelligence &
police at high up levels....

Cidersomerset

13th January 2013, 12:24

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Published on 12 Jan 2013

~Unslave Humanity Tactical Media: http://whynotnews.eu/?p=2045 ~credits video:
http://youtube.com/PressTVGlobalNews - Recent investigations have revealed the
shocking scale of sexual abuse by Jimmy Savile, a former TV presenter at the BBC
(the British Broadcasting Corporation), who is accused of at least 214 crimes
spanning from1955 to 2009. Savile abused children while working at the BBC
between 1965 right up to 2006. Most of the victims were aged between 13 and 16.
A six-week inquiry carried out by former Sky News executive Nick Pollard, said the
BBC's management system "proved completely incapable of dealing" with the
Savile abuse scandal when it was exposed, describing the case as "one of the worst
management crises in the BBC's history". The Newsnight investigation into the
revelations of child sex abuse by Savile was abandoned in December 2011. The
corporation found itself surrounded by a crisis after an ITV Exposure Savile
documentary was broadcasted in October 2012. To further discuss the issue, Press
TV's News Analysis has conducted an interview with Dr. Jon Bird, with National
Association for People Abused in Childhood (London) to further discuss the issue.
The program also offers the opinions of two additional guests, Ian Williams, Foreign
Policy in Focus (New York), and Sukant Chandan, Political Commentator & filmmaker (London).

Dorjezigzag

13th January 2013, 18:37

Not sure if the mainstream have reported a satanic ritual element to the Jimmy Savile abuse before, but they are now on the front cover of The Sunday Express.

JIMMY SAVILE beat and raped a 12-year-old girl during a secret satanic ritual in a hospital.
The perverted star wore a hooded robe and mask as he abused the terrified victim in a candle-lit basement.
He also chanted “Hail Satan” in Latin as other paedophile devil worshippers joined in and assaulted the girl at Stoke Mandeville Hospital in Buckinghamshire. The attack, which happened in 1975, shines a sinister new light on the former DJ’s 54-year reign of terror

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/370439/Jimmy-Savile-was-part-of-satanic-ring

Cidersomerset

13th January 2013, 18:52

Thanks Dorjezigzag'''

Not sure if the mainstream have reported a satanic ritual element to the Jimmy Savile
abuse before, but they are now on the front cover of The Sunday Express.

Obviously David Icke has, but I have not noticed this in the mainstream, they have linked
him to Jersey in some articles, interresting !

The Express on line...

JIMMY SAVILE WAS PART OF SATANIC RING

http://images.dailyexpress.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/285x214/370439_1.jpg#Jimmy-Savile

Jimmy Savile raped a 12-year-old girl
Sunday January 13,2013

By James Fielding

JIMMY SAVILE beat and raped a 12-year-old girl during a secret satanic ritual in a
hospital.The perverted star wore a hooded robe and mask as he abused the
terrified victim in a candle-lit basement.He also chanted “Hail Satan” in Latin as
other paedophile devil worshippers joined in and assaulted the girl at Stoke
Mandeville Hospital in Buckinghamshire. The attack, which happened in 1975,
shines a sinister new light on the former DJ’s 54-year reign of terror.

Savile, who died aged 84 in October 2011, is now Britain’s worst sex offender after
police revealed he preyed on at least 450 victims aged eight to 47.The girl kept her
torment hidden for nearly 20 years before finally opening up to therapist Valerie
Sinason.Dr Sinason told the Sunday Express she first spoke to the victim in 1992
“She had been a patient at Stoke Mandeville in 1975 when Savile was a regular
visitor.“She recalled being led into a room that was filled with candles on the lowest
level of the hospital, somewhere that was not regularly used by staff. Several
adults were there, including Jimmy Savile who, like the others, was wearing a robe
and a mask.“She recognised him because of his distinctive voice and the fact that
his blond hair was protruding from the side of the mask. He was not the leader but
he was seen as important because of his fame.“She was molested, raped and
beaten and heard words that sounded like ‘Ave Satanas’, a Latinised version of ‘Hail
Satan’, being chanted. There was no mention of any other child being there and
she cannot remember how long the attack lasted but she was left extremely
frightened and shaken.”

Savile was a volunteer porter and fundraiser at the hospital between 1965 and
1988and had his own quarters there.Five years after the hospital attack, he abused a
second victim during another black mass ceremony held at a house in a wealthy
London street.The woman was 21 at the time and was made to attend an orgy,
which later took on a darker twist.

Dr Sinason, director of the Clinic for Dissociative Studies in London, said:
“A second victim approached me in 1993. She said she had been ‘lent out’
as a supposedly consenting prostituted woman at a party in a London house
in 1980.“The first part of the evening started off with an orgy but half-way
through some of the participants left.“Along with other young women, the
victim was shepherded to wait in another room before being brought back
to find Savile in a master of ceremonies kind of role with a group wearing
robes and masks. She too heard Latin chanting and instantly recognised
satanist regalia. Although the girl was a young adult, who was above the
age of consent, she had suffered a history of sexual abuse and was
extremely vulnerable.”

Both victims contacted Dr Sinason, who is president of the Institute of
Psychotherapy and Disability, while she was involved in a Department of
Health-funded study into sexual abuse committed during rituals and
religious ceremonies. She said: “Both these witnesses did speak to
police at the time but were vulnerable witnesses and on encountering
any surprise or shock did not dare to give all the details.”

The police took no action.
Dr Sinason added: “Savile was still a huge celebrity in the early Nineties,
let’s not forget, and there was never any action taken against him or any
of the others involved.“Neither girl knew one another, they lived in different
parts of the country and contacted me a year apart yet their experiences are
very similar. Whether Savile was a practising Satanist or merely enjoyed
dressing up to scare his victims even more will perhaps never be known
but he left those two girls mentally scarred.”

Dr Sinason has passed details of the abuse to officers from the Savile inquiry,
Operation Yewtree.A joint report published on Friday by the Metropolitan
Police and the NSPCC uncovered at least 30 claims of abuse at Stoke Mandeville.
The hospital said it was unable to discuss individual cases while its own
“Speaking Out” investigation was ongoing.Anne Eden, chief executive of
Buckinghamshire Healthcare NHS Trust, said: “As the investigation’s name
suggests, it is very keen to hear from anybody with any knowledge that they
feel could help its work or anybody that needs support because of
Jimmy Savile’s alleged behaviour.”

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/370439/Jimmy-Savile-was-part-of-satanic-ring

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Just checked Davids site, he's on it ..LOL...

As I have been saying ... Jimmy Savile was part of a satanic ring. Of course he
was - satanic and paedophile rings are fundamentally connected for all the reasons
my books and talks explain (see Wembley)

Sunday, 13 January 2013 12:52
Posted by David Icke

There is no way in the world that Savile would have been such a record-breaking
paedophile and not have been a practicing Satanist when you know how these rings
work. That does not mean that every paedophile is a Satanist, but the big players
in the paedophile rings invariably are - and it goes to the very top of the royal and
political establishment in Britain and worldwide (see The Biggest Secret).

This is why Operation Yewtree, the mock 'investigation' into Savile's crimes and
connections, is such an obvious cover-up and damage limitation exercise.

I could explain to the mainstream media the whole background to this, ancient and
modern, but they are too close-minded, too controlled and too programmed with a
perception of me to be interested - well, except one

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/January20138/savile2010pa.jpg

'Jimmy Savile beat and raped a 12-year-old girl during a secret satanic ritual in a
hospital. The perverted star wore a hooded robe and mask as he abused the terrifi
ed victim in a candle-lit basement.

He also chanted “Hail Satan” in Latin as other paedophile devil worshippers joined
in and assaulted the girl at Stoke Mandeville Hospital in Buckinghamshire. The
attack, which happened in 1975, shines a sinister new light on the former DJ’s 54-
year reign of terror.'
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/78224-as-i-have-been-saying-jimmy-savile-was-part-of-a-satanic-ring-of-course-he-was-satanic-and-paedophile-rings-are-fundamentally-connected-for-all-the-reasons-my-books-and-talks-explain-see-wembley

Cidersomerset

13th January 2013, 19:05

Inside Story - The Secret Life of a Paedophile

BBC Documentry very good .....

This is about Peter Righton who was connected to the paedophile ring operating out of Downing Street at
the time of Jimmy Saville's friend, Margaret Thatcher, and her close aide and paedophile Peter Morrison.

Hli-iPilDII

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/78224-as-i-have-been-saying-jimmy-savile-was-part-of-a-satanic-ring-of-course-he-was-satanic-and-paedophile-rings-are-fundamentally-connected-for-all-the-reasons-my-books-and-talks-explain-see-wembley

Cidersomerset

13th January 2013, 19:11

This is interresting its made the International Business Times, where a lot
of these Elites hang out no doubt..LOl..I find it odd because its the first time this
site/magazine has come up in a Jimmy saville search and theres only half a dozen
or so sites running this story !!

Jimmy Savile 'Satanic Sex Ring' claim: Jim'll Fix It Star 'Worshipped the Devil'

By Dominic Gover: Subscribe to Dominic's RSS feed

January 13, 2013 1:42 PM GMT

http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2013/01/13/335320.jpg

Jimmy Savile worshipped devil during sex abuse

Pervert Jimmy Savile sexually abused vulnerable girls during sinister black masses,
it has been claimed.The BBC star dressed in black robes during the rituals which
allegedly took place in the basement of Stoke Mandeville hospital, in 1975.
Five years later, the Jim'll Fix It star supposedly took part in more satanic abuse at
a plush London residence. A 21-year-old was reportedly forced to take part in an
orgy in a room decked out with satanic symbols.

Disgraced Savile hid his face with a mask during the abuse, but was identified by
the 12-year-old victim in the Stoke Mandeville case. She spotted his distinctive
white hair sprouting from beneath the garments and recognised his voice.
She told therapist Valerie Sinason she was molested, raped and beaten during the
twisted ceremony by Savile, who chanted "Ave Satanas" with other devil
worshippers in the dark, candle-lit room.

Follow us
Sinason told the Express what the unnamed victim said happened while she was
being treated at Stoke Mandeville hospital, in Bucks. Savile raised millions for the
hospital and had his own room there."She recalled being led into a room that was
filled with candles on the lowest level of the hospital, somewhere that was
not regularly used by staff. Several adults were there, including Jimmy Savile who,
like the others, was wearing a robe and a mask," said Sinason."She recognised him
because of his distinctive voice and the fact that his blond hair was protruding from
the side of the mask. He was not the leader but he was seen as important because
of his fame.

"She was molested, raped and beaten and heard words that sounded like 'Ave
Satanas', a Latinised version of 'Hail Satan', being chanted. There was no mention
of any other child being there and she cannot remember how long the attack lasted
but she was left extremely frightened and shaken."A second case of devil
worshipping and sex abuse by Savile was reported to Sinason."The first part of the
evening started off with an orgy, but half-way through some of the participants left,"
she told the Express.

"Along with other young women, the victim was shepherded to wait in another
room before being brought back to find Savile in a master of ceremonies kind of
role with a group wearing robes and masks. She too heard Latin chanting and
instantly recognised satanist regalia."Although the girl was a young adult who was
above the age of consent, she had suffered a history of sexual abuse and was
extremely vulnerable," said Sinason.

No action was taken by police to investigate either claim.

No Stoke Mandeville hospital spokesman was available when contacted by IBTimes UK.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/423569/20130113/jimmy-savile-satan-sex-abuse.htm

This is far from fantasy , these elites are really into the occult & Satanism!

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Cidersomerset

14th January 2013, 10:18

THE TELEGRAPH ON LONE....

Police told Savile victim she would be 'mincemeat'

Police dissuaded one of Jimmy Savile's victims from giving evidence against him
by telling her he was a “big celebrity” who would make “mincemeat” out of her
in court, according to an official report. The woman, who was molested by Savile
in a caravan in the 1970s, made a complaint to Sussex Police in 2008 but later
decided not to proceed because police told her she would be “all over the newspapers”.

Detectives failed to tell her she would be granted anonymity and that three other
women had come forward with similar allegations against Savile. Keir Starmer,
the Director of Public Prosecutions, yesterday apologised to victims and admitted
police and prosecutors missed a series of opportunities to bring him to justice.
He said there was sufficient evidence at the time to mount a “strong case” against him .

It came as the Metropolitan Police released a report disclosing Savile’s “unprecedented”
campaign of abuse over 54 years, including new allegations that he had attacked a patient
in a hospice and even used the final edition of Top of the Pops to commit crimes.

Commander Peter Spindler, who is heading the Operation Yewtree inquiry into abuse by
Savile and others, said the former Jim’ll Fix It presenter, who died in 2011 aged 84, had
“groomed a nation”. He said 450 victims had come forward, though the true number could
be “far higher”. Prosecutors also published details of a police interview with Savile in 2009,
in which he told two female police officers that they would “finish up at the Old Bailey”
unless allegations against him “disappeared”. DS David Gray, who led the inquiry, said:
“He has spent every minute of every working day thinking about this. Whenever an
opportunity came along he took it. He picked on vulnerable victims and he was clever
enough to choose people who he knew would not speak out.”

Deputy chief Constable Giles York, from Sussex Police, said that “experienced and committed”
officers had “acted in good faith” but the force “could have done better. Surrey Police apologised
to victims and said the force “could have done more” to support them.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9796999/Police-told-Savile-victim-she-would-be-mincemeat.html

EYES WIDE OPEN

14th January 2013, 12:55

Flash

14th January 2013, 17:58

Gosh, in eyes wide shut, those red clothing and the monk robe are very similar to what is found in the Catholic church, isn't it?? And elsewhere the is the encens poured out of this same this as found in the Catholic ceremonies. I would always choke with these odors around and the Catholic ceremonies would always somewhat frighten me. The only think I liked was the gothic music and chants.

I must have been sane.

Cidersomerset

14th January 2013, 23:42

Elm Guest House Child Sexual Abuse – One Big Cover Up

http://chrisukorg.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/elm-guest-house1.jpg?w=630

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/78256-police-told-savile-victim-she-would-be-mincemeat

A guest house where paedo VIPs are feared to have abused vulnerable underage
boys for years is being probed by cops

A ring of rich and powerful people are said to have used it as a sordid playhouse –
and were allegedly snapped and videoed with kids lured from a children’s home.
One boy has alleged he was tied up, forced to perform a sex act and made to watch
men having sex. A politician, top cop, judge, bishop and household names off the
radio and TV are among those said to have been part of the ring between 1979 and
1982.At these parties , young boys , specially brought over from several childrens
homes would be plied with drugs and alcohol.

Read More....

http://chris-ukorg.org/cover-ups/elm-guest-house-child-sexual-abuse/

Cidersomerset

14th January 2013, 23:52

Journalist Sonia Poulton asks Lord Alistair McAlpine, former Margaret Thatcher
Conservative Party Treasurer and close aide and confidant, for help in exposing the
scale of child abuse in Britain

Monday, 14 January 2013 12:40
Posted by David Icke

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/11/10/article-2230750-15EF442D000005DC-792_470x288.jpg

C/O Andrew Reid

London
W1K 4DS

Sent by e-mail

January 11, 2013

Sir,

I note that I have not received a response to my letter dated November 21, 2012.
In the event that this has not been passed on to you, I enclose a copy.

You will note that I am asking you to join me in requesting that David Cameron
initiate a nationwide investigation into care home abuse.

The current investigations - Yewtree and Pallial - are too narrowly defined to
address how extensive the issue of paedophile abuse in the care system has been
over the past 40 years.

Ever since the Savile story broke, I have been interviewing people from the care
system. Psychologically-damaged adults who need - and deserve -
acknowledgement and closure from the terrible wrongs that were visited on them.

Given your very good fortune, in that you are able to afford swifter justice than
many of these victims, I wonder if you would be prepared to extend yourself to
help others who also need to be heard.

I do hope this e-mail reaches you. I feel, given how high profile your name has
been around this issue, that you are someone who may be able to provide integral
support to this quite heinous blot on our country.

Yours sincerely,
Sonia Poulton
JOURNALIST/BROADCASTER

-----------------

COPY OF LETTER SENT 21/11/12:
For the attention of: Lord Alistair McAlpine, Baron McAlpine of West Green
C/O Andrew Reid
London
W1K 4DS
Sent by e-mail

November 21, 2012

Sir,
I am writing to request your help in a matter that is dear to my heart.

I have recently conducted interviews with care home abuse victims for TV and
press. During my research it has become clear that paedophile activity in the
system was not restricted to North Wales.So it is that I agree with MP Tom Watson
in calling for an investigation to extend beyond the Welsh border.

I wonder if you would support me in pursuing a public investigation nationwide?
Given your recent experience of being wrongly implicated in something as heinous
as child abuse, I feel you are particularly well-placed for such a vital task.

I have amassed significant information that I will readily share. I urge caution,
however. Some of the personal testimonies – that of acts of depravity carried out
on already vulnerable children – are not for the faint-hearted.

You should know that I disagreed with the Newsnight report. It is appalling that
even the most basic journalistic checks were not adhered too. I cannot support
what the programme did.

However, I am concerned that the subsequent fall-out has detracted from the issue
that we must continue to pursue – that of child abuse in the care system – and may
result in victims being reluctant to come forward for fear of being disbelieved.

Lord Alistair, can I count on your support in seeing that the victims receive their
long-delayed justice - and that the true perpetrators of these crimes are held to
account?

Thank you.

Yours sincerely,

Sonia PoultonJournalist/Broadcaster

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/78256-police-told-savile-victim-she-would-be-mincemeat

Cidersomerset

15th January 2013, 00:03

This is like me shouting at Radio 5 the other day, when they said as they do after every scandal !

"We must not let this ever happen again"...LOL...What a load of 'Rollicks' !!

Jimmy Savile: MI5, MI6, Royals or Thatcher Didn't Know? WHAT??

The taxi driver calls it right on ...Having a good old rant at Radio 5
Lives Victoria Derbyshires reading, Jimmy Saville headlines !!!

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/78256-police-told-savile-victim-she-would-be-mincemeat

WeSfxSI-kNY

Padmé

15th January 2013, 01:52

Please forgive me if this has already been shared, though I just stumbled upon this short documentary on Haut de la Garenne in Jersey and wanted to share...

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Cidersomerset

15th January 2013, 01:57

Please forgive me if this has already been shared, though I just stumbled upon this short documentary on Haut de la Garenne in Jersey and wanted to share...

Thanks Padme, I have posted this vid before on another thread its appropriate to post on here because Saville has been linked to this place...Cheers Steve

Cidersomerset

15th January 2013, 20:37

UNfortunately its not just celebs and elites who commit these abusive crimes !!

15 January 2013 Last updated at 14:47

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/63179000/jpg/_63179322_63173679.jpg

Oxford 'child sex ring committed depraved abuse' The nine men, from Berkshire
and Oxfordshire, are accused of sexually exploiting six girls, aged between 11 and
15 A group of nine men targeted vulnerable young girls in Oxford and subjected
them to depraved sexual abuse, the Old Bailey has heard.The men, eight from
Oxford and one from Berkshire, are accused of being involved in a child sex-
trafficking ring involving six girls.Between them the defendants face 51 counts
including rape and trafficking.They deny the charges which relate to girls aged
between 11 and 15 and cover a period from 2004 to 2012.

'Lavished attention'

Noel Lucas QC, prosecuting, told jurors the defendants groomed the girls, then
controlled them, using them for their own sexual gratification and selling them to
other men for sex.He said the men deliberately targeted girls who had unsettled
home lives which which made it less likely anyone would exercise normal parental
control over them or be looking out for them.Jurors were told sometimes the girls
were targeted while they were drinking or playing truant.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/65287000/jpg/_65287112_noellucas.jpg

Mr Lucas said the girls became dependent on their abusers after becoming
addicted to drugs They were then groomed in a variety of ways, such as being
given gifts, the court heard.Mr Lucas said: "The attention lavished on the girls at
the outset was of course entirely insincere as it was merely a device, you may
conclude once you hear the evidence, to exploit their vulnerability."The defendants
plied the girls with alcohol and introduced them to drugs, including cannabis,
cocaine and sometimes heroin, the court heard.The jury was told the girls became
addicted to drugs, making them dependent on their abusers.

'Extreme depravity'

Mr Lucas said the men sometimes used extreme physical and sexual violence on
the girls.He said: "The depravity, and I use that word with care, of what was done
to the complainants was extreme."The facts in this case will make you feel
uncomfortable."The court was told the girls were taken to empty private houses
and guest houses where others would pay to have sex with them, often in groups.
The men came from as far afield as Bradford, Leeds, London and Slough.
The girls were also taken to other towns and cities, including London and
Bournemouth. One girl was just 12 when she was forced into prostitution, the court
heard.The prosecution said one victim described the lifestyle as a "living hell".
Mr Lucas said: "The girls were usually given so many drugs that they were barely
aware of what was going on. Indeed, they say it was the only way they could cope
with what was going on."Between acts of abuse sometimes stretching over a
number of days, the Oxford men ensured girls were guarded so that they could not escape."

The trial is expected to last until April. The defendants are all in custody.

The defendants are:

Kamar Jamil, 27, of Aldwych Road, Oxford
Akhtar Dogar, 32, of Tawney Street, Oxford; and his brother Anjum Dogar, 30, of Tawney Street, Oxford
Assad Hussain, 32, of Ashurst Way, Oxford
Mohammed Karrar, 38, of Kames Close, Oxford; and his brother Bassam Karrar, 33, of Hundred Acres Close, Oxford
Mohammed Hussain, 24, of Horspath Road, Oxford
Zeeshan Ahmed, 27, of Palmer Road, Oxford
Bilal Ahmed, 26, of Suffolk Road, Maidenhead

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-21027681

Cidersomerset

15th January 2013, 20:45

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The British Official Secrets Act is a one way, don't pass go, don't collect 200,
straight to jail piece of legislation designed to put anyone away with no details
except 'charged under the official secrets act'. It's like the D Notice that Tony Blair
issued to conceal the paedophiles the FBI discovered in his cabinet from their
investigations that led to Operation Ore before the invasion of Iraq. It's a secret.
You can't talk about it or we'll put you away.

If you're a spy there's negotiation room because more secrets can be spilled and so
Peter Wright, David Shayler and Richard Tomlinson all had dirt on the UK power
elite that kept them out of jail but not without putting up a fight.I don't have that
wriggle room and so my only defence is that to be charged by the official secrets
act would mean I'm somewhat embarrassingly correct. However by the same logic
if I'm not charged I'm also paradoxically on the money with some ambiguity over
what the definition of is, is.So allow me to lay out the obvious.

We know British spooks take great interest in the paedophile world for blackmail
reasons that I've written about over here. Paedophilia is rampant within the power
elite beyond most peoples wildest comprehension for genetic and power dynamics
not immediately comprehensible to the person who enjoys attending to sports
personality of the year and that dancing show that is popular but which I forget the
name of.We also know from the unparalleled intimacy that Jimmy Savile had with
Downing Street and Buckingham Palace that his security clearance was as high as it
can possibly be. Eleven consecutive New Years and Christmases with the Thatchers
and a mentor relationship with Prince Charles as well as a mediator role within the
Royal Household are concrete proof that MI5 knew everything the BBC
management gossiped about for decades and a whole lot more.

Jimmy Savile was not blackmailed by MI5, he collaborated with them and the Royal
household and Downing Street by trading the information he was intimate with of
the power elite's predatory sexual abuse of young children in exchange for a life of
affluence and security. He loved it.We've all probably experienced when somebody
has shared information that is fatally damaging to someone else's reputation, and if
we're honest we usually know the person sharing this kind of information has dark
secrets of their own we would rather not learn.

That ladies and Gentleman is how Sir James Savile moved with such extraordinary
ease in MI5, MI6, Royal and Downing Street circles.

I guess you want to know why he eventually fell out with Prince Philip? The best
answer is not to ask yourself what upset Philip. Ask yourself what upset
Jimmy....What could Prince Philip have possible shared with Sir Jimmy that even
Jimmy could barely stomach it?

Getting closer.

http://charlesfrith.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/jimmy-savile-worked-for-mi5.html

Cidersomerset

15th January 2013, 22:41

This is not a new interview ,but putting it here for referance.....
David says he first became aware of Savilles activities in 1997 when
researching his book 'The Biggest Secret'...Sources said Saville
was into necrophelia as well. Plus a procurer of children for the
elites,This is a good interview.

BUSmc5Tiuto

Published on 19 Oct 2012

David Icke, has been telling the world that Jimmy Savile is a Paedophile for many
years, but only now he has been taken seriously.A programme that was aired on
the "Liberty Tactics show" with the guest speaker being "David Icke" Exposes the
real truth about Jimmy Savile and others.'David is the man the mainstream media
like to ridicule and make fun of but the fact is David Icke was right about Jimmy
Savile. For many years David Icke has been telling people that Jimmy Savile was a
paedophile and a necrophiliac.

He has named other people in high places who are child abusers and child killers
who are involved in satanic rituals and sacrifice and yet he has never been sued by
them or their families for making these accusations.How many of the rich and
famous did Savile supply children to for their perverted pleasure? If Savile had
been exposed while he was alive he would have taken many famous people down
with him including those within the British Establishment.'

norman

15th January 2013, 23:44

If Savile had been exposed while he was alive he would have taken many famous people down
with him including those within the British Establishment.'

I think that's almost the answer to those people who've asked "why now?".

Thinking about it more seriously, I think that only accounts for the fear/rearguard factor. Each time the elite would have 'got wind' of an "exposure", they would have stopped it for the sake of covering their own arses.

I'm still left wondering why they didn't stop it this time too? after all, "let sleeping dogs lye" etc etc..... no point stirring up crap for nothing, is there?

So why stir it up now, or at least, why NOT stop it stirring?

That's a very curious thing. I don't know the answer yet, but I suspect it's all part of putting the wind up the underlings and also about cutting some slack between the elite and their less important underlings who will see what's happening here and freak right out.

Cidersomerset

16th January 2013, 01:02

So why stir it up now, or at least, why NOT stop it stirring?

Good question others have asked this in various articles, I think they were able to keep the lid on the BBC
thru the old boys network at the top.Some of this material was dripping out in hind sight thru the likes
of David Icke, but they were not worried about that because " Ickes mad he believes the queens a reptile "
and as late as 2009 the Police bungled the latest victims to report Savilles attacks, wether accidently or
under pressure.As has been said the Crown Prosecution service, would need lots of evidence. Thats why
it won't get into the Royal family, because everthing is soveriegn. Royal Courts Etc Etc....

It was a combination of the ITV programme and the fact the BBC did cancel there news report and
it became public that all the mainstream jumped aboard.But Saville is still the main culprit, his links
to the Royals and gangs is mentioned and discussed online and some newspapers.But the police
show no sign of going there,last I heard I thought they said he was a lone operator ? but I'd
have to check.

So the elite feel safe and hope this will all blow over now the report was
published last week.All we can do is keep plugging away !!

norman

16th January 2013, 02:56

Here's another snippet of Jimmy Saville hobnobbing with the posh................ :

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he "popped" into Kensington Palace to bull**** Diana into going to a TV studio to write her 'pledge' on a wall for a charity.

When they got back, she told one of her staff that "He's the most bad man".....

Saville puts a gloss on it but I wonder what really went on in Diana's head after sitting in a car with him. "GOD!", he might have even tried it on with Diana!...

Cidersomerset

17th January 2013, 14:29

Here's another snippet of Jimmy Saville hobnobbing with the posh................ :

he "popped" into Kensington Palace to bull**** Diana into going to a TV studio to write her 'pledge' on a wall for a charity.

When they got back, she told one of her staff that "He's the most bad man".....

Saville puts a gloss on it but I wonder what really went on in Diana's head after sitting in a car with him. "GOD!", he might have even tried it on with Diana!...

Yes I wonder !!....This is one of his odd stories at the time you thought oh well its Jimmy Saville, but now he obviously had good access to the Prince Philip
A bit more ominous with hind sight !

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Cidersomerset

17th January 2013, 14:33

Metropolitan Police Commander Peter Spindler said that Savile’s crimes were 'vast, predatory and opportunistic' and he had effectively 'groomed the nation'. Sounds good, but I would not personally trust the Met’s investigation Operation Yewtree to pursue the full truth about Savile any more than I would have trusted him to produce the school nativity.

This is the worry the Police are portaying him as a opertunist operator, I don't
think so with his connections to the elites !

Thursday, 17 January 2013 12:04
Posted by David Icke

THE BRITISH ESTABLISHMENT ...

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… PAEDOPHILES EVERYWHERE

British royal and political Establishment with its global significance peers over the cliff.

The David Icke Newsletter Goes Out On Sunday

It is starting to get silly now and the arrest and questioning of major political and Establishment figures must take place in at least the next few weeks if the police investigation is to retain any public confidence.

The evidence for a massive paedophile ring infesting the royal palaces, Downing Street and the Westminster Parliament is overwhelming and mounting by the week. The implications of the full truth being revealed can hardly be overstated – the devastating discrediting of the major political parties and the end of the monarchy.

It would bring about a total public re-evaluation of everything they have believed about the country they live in and the forces that dictate its laws, direction and methods of operation. The same is true for much of the rest of the world because what I am about to describe is happening in every country – not least in the United States.

The revelations about record-breaking paedophile and child procurer Jimmy Savile have exposed the former BBC ‘star entertainer’ as a purveyor of sheer evil on a scale that would challenge any imagination. Here are the cold and shocking numbers according to the police – and these are not even nearly the whole story:

450 people of both sexes have made complaints about Savile involving 28 police areas throughout the country and among them are 34 alleged rapes. The abuse spanned a period of 54 years between 1955 and 2009 when Savile was 82. The abuses happened to 23 children and young people on BBC premises, at 14 hospitals and at least one hospice. More than 70 per cent of his victims were under 18 and one was as young as eight.

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Metropolitan Police Commander Peter Spindler said that Savile’s crimes were 'vast, predatory and opportunistic' and he had effectively 'groomed the nation'. Sounds good, but I would not personally trust the Met’s investigation Operation Yewtree to pursue the full truth about Savile any more than I would have trusted him to produce the school nativity.

Spindler added – ludicrously – that Savile used his celebrity to 'hide in plain sight'. Oh, no, no, no, mate. That will not do. Savile got away with it for 54 years because he was protected by the highest levels of the paedophile-Satanist-controlled British Establishment for whom he was procuring children.

Lest we forget: Disc jockey Jimmy Savile was a very close friend of the royal family including Lord Louis Mountbatten, Prince Philip and Prince Charles from the 1960s until he died aged 84 in 2011. Savile was also a close friend of Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher who ran one of the most paedophile-infiltrated administrations of modern times – yes and with all the competition, too.

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Now a new front is emerging to expose the ring’s sickening activities – the notorious Elm Guest House in Rocks Lane, south-west London. I have been on the trail of Elite paedophilia and Satanism on both sides of the Atlantic for two decades but I still shake my head at the same recurring names year after year in location after location.

Names emerging from sources seeking to expose what happened at Rocks Lane have included a Thatcher cabinet minister who has come up so often it is extraordinary testimony to the Establishment’s ability to cover up that he is still at large and considered worthy of political influence.

Another ‘Elm name’ familiar to me is Anthony Blunt who is alleged to have used the name 'Anthony Goldstein' when visiting Rocks Lane. Blunt was one of the infamous ‘Cambridge Five’ British Intelligence insiders who spied for Russia. Four of them were Blunt, Burgess, Maclean and Philby and the 'Fifth Man', never named, was Lord Victor Rothschild although there were actually more than five.

And Blunt leads us once again to the British royal family …

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http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/78363-the-british-establishment-paedophiles-everywhere

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Cidersomerset

17th January 2013, 22:09

What David Icke has said since 1998 about paedophile and child killing Prime
Minister Ted Heath is backed-up here by barrister Michael Shrimpton, an
Intelligence and national security consultant, from his own contacts and inside experience

Thursday, 17 January 2013 12:05

Posted by David Icke

By David Icke

Michael Shrimpton says that Prime Minister Heath (1916 – 2005) was a paedophile
who murdered his young boy victims or had others do it, often by throwing them
into the sea after Heath had abused them on his yacht.

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The record-breaking paedophile and BBC 'star' Jimmy Savile supplied boys for
Heath - many of them from the Jersey children's home, Haut de la Garenne, with
the support of those who ran the home.

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Savile at Haut de la Garenne.

These facts were covered up by Heath Cabinet Secretary John Hunt, Baron Hunt of
Tanworth, who Shrimpton says was also a paedophile. Hunt was appointed by the
Queen to be a Companion, Knight Commander and Knight Grand Cross of the
British Order of chivalry known as the The Most Honourable Order of the Bath of
which the Queen is the head and Prince Charles the Grand Master. Hunt was also
given a Papal Knighthood by Pope John Paul II - so was Jimmy Savile who was also
knighted by the Queen.

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Savile and Hunt were both given a Papal knighthood by the biggest child-abuse
network on Planet Earth - the Roman Catholic Church (Church of Babylon
relocated).Jimmy Savile was a close friend of Lord Mountbatten, Prince Philip and
Prince Charles from the 1960s and this continued for decades AFTER the cover up
of Heath's paedophilia and child murder in league with Savile. You mean they didn't
KNOW? Is someone having a laugh? British Intelligence didn't know? Ditto.

What's more ... AFTER the Heath-Savile cover up, Savile became such a close
friend of Heath's successor and Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and her husband
Denis that he was invited to be with them on New Year's Eve every year for more
than a decade.

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Thatcher's government and circle of associates and aides was alive with
paedophiles including Chester MP Peter Morrison, a close aide to Thatcher from 1975
to 1990. He was a notorious paedophile, well known to colleagues and the media,
and yet Thatcher and her Cabinet and inner circle did NOTHING while he was
abusing boys in North Wales children's homes and elsewhere. Anyone in that circle
MUST have known. Thatcher minister Edwina Currie wrote in her published diaries:

'One appointment in the recent reshuffle has attracted a lot of gossip and could be
very dangerous: Peter Morrison has become the PM’s PPS [Parliamentary Private
Secretary]. Now he’s what they call a 'noted pederast', with a liking for young boys;
he admitted as much to [Conservative Party chairman] Norman Tebbit when he
became deputy chairman of the party but added' 'However, I’m very discreet' - and
he must be! She [Thatcher] either knows and is taking a chance, or doesn’t; either
way, it’s a really dumb move.

[Conservative MP] Teresa Gorman told me this evening (in a taxi coming back from
a drinks party at the BBC) that she inherited Morrison's (woman) agent, who
claimed to have been offered money to keep quiet about his activities. It scares me
as all the press know, and as we get closer to the election someone is going to
make trouble, very close to her indeed.'

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Morrison with Thatcher

I named Edward Heath as a serial paedophile and child killer in my book, The
Biggest Secret, first published in 1998 – seven years before he died. I also named
him and his Chancellor of the Exchequer Anthony Barber as practicing Satanists, as
I did the leading members of the royal family. Heath was read what I said by an
excuse for a 'journalist' days after publication and he did nothing because to do so
would have had the truth exposed in court – as it would be now if anyone from the
Thatcher cesspit wants a go. Michael Shrimpton mentions Barber in this interview
as being in league with Heath and Cabinet Secretary Hunt.

If Operation Fairbank, the police investigation into political and 'elite' paedophilia,
does not make arrests of big political and royal names so they can be questioned
under caution then it, too, will be shown to be a cover up given the evidence that
mounts all the time.

Michael Shrimpton goes on to talk about what he says happened to the abducted
little girl Madeleine McCann, the assassination of Princess Diana, the murder of
weapons expert David Kelly who could have trashed the lies used to justify the Blair
invasion of Iraq, and what Shimpton says was the murder of former British Foreign
Secretary Robin Cook.

I can’t confirm what he says about Madeleine or Cook but for sure I can with
everything else with regard to Heath, Savile and the Conservative Party and
government. Nor do I agree with all of his assumptions about who was behind it all,
and certainly not that British Intelligence are the ‘good guys’. But it is very
interesting information very much worth hearing.

Michael Shrimpton is the author of the book, Spyhunter, which he’s apparently
having trouble publishing in the UK.

QNelt33QP_8

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Ellisa

17th January 2013, 23:54

This gets sicker by the minute. Yuck!

That said, sometimes people who say they didn't know really don't because they make sure they don't. Remember the saying that there are none so blind as those who will not see. And, proving they did know is virtually impossible, particularly for those who have had a lot of practice ignoring the facts.

Cidersomerset

18th January 2013, 15:33

Police Say Political Paedophilia At Elm Guest House To Be Full-Blown Investigation - Well, Let's Hope It Is Because We Will Be Watching

Friday, 18 January 2013 13:24
Posted by David Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/78398-police-say-political-paedophilia-at-elm-guest-house-to-be-full-blown-investigation-well-lets-hope-it-is-because-we-will-be-watching

Now, what about Savile's connections to the royal family and Margaret Thatcher?

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INDEPENDENT ON LINE.......

Scotland Yard tonight launched a full investigation into allegations that
Conservative politicians were members of a paedophile ring which abused children
in care the 1980s.Operation Fernbridge will centre on the alleged historic sexual
abuse of children at Elm Guest House, in Rocks Lane, a suburban street in Barnes,
south-west London.Residents of a nearby care home run by Richmond Council claim
they were sexually assaulted at the property by a network of prominent individuals,
including Tory MPs, who used their connections to escape justice.

The allegations are one of several lines of inquiry being considered by specialist
detectives at the country’s biggest force as a result of information supplied to them
by Labour MP Tom Watson.In a surprise intervention in the Commons in October,
Mr Watson - who alleged widespread phone hacking at the News of the World
before police began a new inquiry - urged Scotland Yard to re-open the evidence
file on Peter Righton, a former child care consultant who was convicted of importing
illegal homosexual pornography in 1992.

Saying that the file contained “clear intelligence of a widespread paedophile ring”,
Mr Watson said at Prime Minister’s Questions: “One of its members boasts of a link
to a senior aide of a former Prime Minister, who says he could smuggle indecent
images of children from abroad.

“The leads were not followed up, but if the files still exist, I want to ensure that the
Metropolitan Police secure the evidence, re-examine it, and investigate clear
intelligence suggesting a powerful paedophile network linked to Parliament and No
10.”In secret. five officers on the Met’s Child Abuse Investigation team began a
scoping exercise, Operation Fairbank, to see if the MP’s claims merited further
inquiry.Working in secret at Empress State Building in Earl’s Court, London, they
interviewed several adults who had contacted Mr Watson with information until
December, when police confirmed the existence of the inquiry.

Tonight Scotland Yard confirmed the scoping exercise had reached sufficient
seriousness that it passed “the threshold for a criminal investigation” and
announced the creation of Operation Fernbridge.Scotland Yard would not say how
many officers are staffing Operation Fernbridge.It is being run by the Specialist
Crimes and Operations Directorate, which is known for tackling complex crime and
which investigated phone hacking and other illicit newsgathering tactics that had
previously escaped serious scrutiny by the police.

In a short statement, Scotland Yard said: “The Metropolitan Police Service have
today, Thursday 17 January, launched an investigation, Operation Fernbridge, into
historic allegations of child abuse in the early 1980s at the Elm Guest House, Rocks
Lane, Barnes, London.“The investigation will be led by the Child Abuse Investigation
Command.”The statement went on: “The allegations under Operation Fernbridge
were initially assessed under Operation Fairbank which was information passed to
police by MP Tom Watson. Operation Fernbridge reached the threshold for a
criminal investigation.

“We will not be providing a running commentary on this inquiry.”

The police stressed that the allegations were historic and did not relate to the
current occupants of the property, which has been under new ownership for some
time.A spokeswoman for the Met confirmed that Operation Fairbank would remain
in existence and concentrate on other lines of inquiry provided by Mr Watson, who
has been in regular contact with detectives. Those other lines of inquiry also involve
politicians.Last night Mr Watson said: “This new criminal investigation is welcome
news. I am confident that the Operation Fairbank team are committed to a
thorough investigation that leaves no stone left unturned. As they get nearer the
truth it is vital they are given the time and space to conduct the investigation
without interference.“I urge any witnesses or victims to come forward if they think
they can help with the inquiry. No matter what has happened in the past, now is
the time for your voice to be heard.”

The Metropolitan Police asked anyone with information to call its hotline on 020 7161 0500.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...g-8456434.html

Cidersomerset

20th January 2013, 14:16

The Elm Guest House child sex ring and the British Establishment

Sunday, 20 January 2013 13:31

Posted by David Icke

Who was involved?

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'The UK police are to investigate allegations that members of a paedophile ring,
based at the Elm Guest House in Barnes in London, sexually abused young boys
from Grafton Close children's home in Richmond, in London.

Those alleged to have abused the young boys include spies, celebrities, government
ministers, senior Members of Parliament, top police officers, top judges, and people
with links to the royal family.'

Read more ...

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/elm-house-child-sex-ring-top-people.html

Cidersomerset

20th January 2013, 20:31

I have been saying for so long that paedophilia and Satanism are
fundamentally connected - this was the case with Jimmy Savile
and now paedophile MP Cyril Smith 'was pals with satanic child
sex monster'

Sunday, 20 January 2013 15:44
Posted by David Icke

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'The monster, whose youngest victim was only two, also hung up his stepson and
the girl on hooks.In further horrendous episodes he stripped the children naked,
blindfolded them and tied them to a cross next to a black magic altar so that
his “disciples” could use them for sex. The abuses were often filmed to be gloated
over later.

Horgan also forced the children to carry out disgusting sex acts on other kids,
including their friends and each other. He organised outdoor “parties” for these
activities on Saddleworth Moor, where child killers Ian Brady and Myra Hindley had
buried their victims. Youngsters from two to 13 were drugged, tortured and
sexually abused during the satanic “ceremonies”.'

I have been exposing for all these years that the world is run by paedophiles and
Satanists with largely ridicule and dismissal for my trouble but it's the truth and
people are going to have to face it before much longer. Meanwhile, children today
go on living the same nightmare as children before them.

Read more ...

DAILY MIRROR ON LINE....

Pervert MP Cyril Smith was pals with satanic child sex monster
19 Jan 2013 22:00

Victim Michael Roberts reveals his devil-worshipping stepdad Michael Horgan organised abuse

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Paedophile MP Cyril Smith was in league with another appalling child sex abuser
who set up satanic rituals and raped children as young as TWO, the Sunday People has discovered.

Victim Michael Roberts, 40, today bravely puts aside his right to anonymity to tell
for the first time how he was only six when he was sexually abused by 29-stone politician Smith.

And shockingly he has revealed his devil-worshipping stepdad Michael Horgan
organised the horrendous ordeal. Horgan made a deal with the man who went on to
be knighted after years as a respected Member of Parliament.

Michael claims Smith, who was also a close pal of Jimmy Savile, told him he had
been “a naughty boy” before forcing him to take part in a perverted spanking and
groping ritual.

Now studying for a counselling qualification, Michael fought back tears as he
recalled: “I was frightened of him because of his size. But by then I was getting
abused by so many people I’d just got used to it.”

Horgan, who has also used the name Shaun O’Donnell, became known as the High
Priest of Satan.

Devil worshipper: Perv Michael Horgan organised abuse

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He was jailed for 10 years and placed on the sex offenders’ register after he was
found guilty of six sex abuse charges in 1992. Smith died in 2010 aged 82.
The twisted pair are believed to have bonded initially over their mutual love for
Elvis Presley before finding they also shared a sexual interest in children.
Abusing the young and vulnerable became an obsession.
Horgan organised a series of satanic-themed orgies for like-minded paedos.

In one of them he raped little Michael and an even younger female child before
watching on as others did the same.The monster, whose youngest victim was only
two, also hung up his stepson and the girl on hooks.In further horrendous episodes
he stripped the children naked, blindfolded them and tied them to a cross next to a
black magic altar so that his “disciples” could use them for sex.The abuses were
often filmed to be gloated over later.

Horgan also forced the children to carry out disgusting sex acts on other kids,
including their friends and each other.He organised outdoor “parties” for these
activities on Saddleworth Moor, where child killers Ian Brady and Myra Hindley had
buried their victims.Youngsters from two to 13 were drugged, tortured and sexually
abused during the satanic “ceremonies”.

http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1464281.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/MP+Cyril+Smith
After investigations into the allegations made in previous decades the police now
publicly acknowledge that young boys were victims of physical and sexual abuse
committed by Smith
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The shock revelation over the satanist and MP’s friendship raises questions over
any role Smith and Jimmy Savile may have played in Horgan’s paedo ring.
Horgan was also pals with Raymond Hewlett, the child rapist questioned in relation
to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.Michael added: “Michael Horgan used to
take me out to ‘visit’ people regularly. It didn’t seem that far away. It didn’t take us
long to get there. We went there in a taxi. Just me and Michael Horgan.

“I can’t remember where it was, just that it was a long row of houses and that it
wasn’t far from where we lived in Rochdale.”Michael says the visit had obviously
been set up beforehand as local MP Smith greeted him by his first name when he
walked in the room.He added: “We went into the house. He was a big fat guy. They
(Horgan and Cyril) were talking between themselves. It looked like it had been pre-
planned because he (Cyril) said, ‘Hello, Michael.’ Then he said I had been ‘naughty’
and that he had to spank me three times.

“He spanked my bum three times and then he touched me up. He touched my
private parts.

“It didn’t last five minutes because my stepdad was stood there and said, ‘You’ve
got to go,’ and that was it.

“That was the end of it. For some reason, all of a sudden, we had to get back. I
don’t know why.”Smith, elected to Parliament in 1972, first rose to national
prominence when he awarded his mother Eva the title of First Lady of Rochdale
after he became the town’s mayor in 1966.

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1460347.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Cyril+Smith+MP+

Cyril Smith MP
Mirrorpix

He lived with her in her small terraced house in the Lancashire town until her death
in 1994.Never married, Smith’s later years were dogged by rumours about his
sexuality and allegations of child abuse.According to police records, prosecutors
were given evidence about him in 1970, 1998 and 1999 but charges were never
brought.He was finally exposed as a paedophile in November last year. The Crown
Prosecution Service admitted he should have been charged.

One of his victims claimed he was sexually abused in a room in the Houses
Parliament as MPs walked past.Michael said: “I nearly fell off my chair when I saw it
come on the news. I went into shock when I saw him.“I thought, ‘Oh my God, it
has finally come out. At the time he abused me I didn’t know who he was. In my
mind I called him the fat man.

“It wasn’t until years later that I realised he was an MP. I remember being there
and being spanked and that it stung, like when someone slaps you.
“I smelt a funny smell off him. A musty smell and there was a musty smell in the
house as well."I remember a brownish coffee table in the room and that’s about it.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pervert-mp-cyril-smith-was-pals-1546290

Cidersomerset

20th January 2013, 21:15

THE MIRROR ON LINE......

Child abuse cops seize VIP list: Politicians, MI5 agent, Royal aide and pop stars all named
19 Jan 2013 22:00

First arrests expected soon following dawn raid in connection with suburban guest house that operated as gay brothel

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1546260.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/££+Flats+that+used+to+be+Elm+Guest+House

A list of names seized by police probing allegations of child abuse includesministers,
members of the royal household and a world-famous pop star, the Sunday People
can reveal.All were recorded as visitors to a suburban guest house that operated as
a gay brothel.

Now some could be suspects in an investigation into a network of powerful people
who were secret paedophiles for years.Late last week police ramped up the inquiry –
and arrests are believed to be imminent.Nine officers raided the North London
home of former child protection worker Mary Moss after she initially declined to co-
operate with the investigation.

Documents and a laptop were seized. Ms Moss later handed over a further 19 files
she had hidden in a neighbour’s shed.The papers include a list of men who went to
sex parties in the 80s at the Elm Guest House, Barnes, South West London.
Among the names are two former Conservative Cabinet ministers and four other
senior Tories. There is also a Labour MP, a prominent Irish republican and a leading
National Front member.Others on the handwritten note are two members of the
royal household – one a former Buckingham Palace employee – plus the owner of a
multinational company and two pop stars.

One of those is a best-selling musician, but like some others on the list he is not
suspected of being involved in the child abuse.The list was taken at meetings in
1988 between the guest house’s manager Carole Kasir and child protection officials.
Other documents seized are believed to identify 16 boys who were allegedly
trafficked to the guest house from local care homes. Police have asked Richmond
Council for a full list of children in care at the time.

Officers will also be examining copies of cash receipts and the guest house’s visitor
records.Operation Fernbridge is investigating claims that boys who were in council
care were brought to the Elm to be sexually abused by bigwigs and VIPs.
It was launched after Labour MP Tom Watson claimed a paedophile ring used top-
level connections to dodge justice.As well as Richmond, social services records from
nearby Wandsworth, Hammersmith and Fulham, and Hounslow will be checked by
detectives.The first people to be arrested are not expected to be famous.

But sources close to the investigation are increasingly confident some big names
will be caught in the police net.Renowned figures linked to the scandal so far
include the former Liberal MP Cyril Smith and the one-time Keeper of the Queen’s
Pictures Anthony Blunt, who was disgraced as a traitor and spy.The Sunday People
was the first to expose the “paedo palace” last month. Its owner Kasir was 47 when
she died of a suspected overdose in 1990.At her inquest, child protection workers
told the coroner of her meetings with them two years earlier.She reported that
boys from nearby Grafton Close council home were brought to her premises and
abused.The claim was never fully investigated by police. Kasir was at the Elm when
cops raided a party there in 1982.

Twelve boys then told police they had been abused by men in the house but
complaints were not pursued.The only prosecution in the wake of the raid resulted
in Kasir being convicted of keeping a brothel.Campaigners believe she did not know
of the child abuse until shortly before she reported it in 1988.It appears a 2003
probe into activities at the Elm also fizzled out. Now Operation Fernbridge may be
on the verge of bringing offenders to justice.It was triggered by a speech Tom
Watson made in the House of Commons.

He told MPs there was “clear intelligence” of an abuse network of powerful men
with influence at the highest level – in Parliament and even in Downing Street.
A lot of it was gathered in the 1992 investigation into paedophile Peter Righton.
The Met launched Operation Fairbank with a staff of five collecting intelligence on
long-standing allegations.After interviewing adult witnesses they started Operation
Fernbridge to look solely at the Elm. Ms Moss said of last week’s police raid: “They
were friendly enough but I thought it was heavy handed and a complete violation of
my privacy.”The Met said on Friday: “The investigation will be led by the Child
Abuse Investigation Command.

"The allegations under Operation Fernbridge were initially assessed under Operation
Fairbank, which was from information passed to police by Mr Tom Watson.”
The MP said: “I believe a great injustice was done in the 1980s.
"To stop something like this happening again I am asking victims to summon the
courage to come forward now.“Whatever has happened in the past your voices will
be heard now.“You can contact the police. Or if you feel more comfortable you can
contact me directly.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-seize-vip-list-in-dawn-1546351

Earth Angel

20th January 2013, 21:31

wow....I do wonder in this investigation how they are so quick to say the two pop stars are not involved.....how do they know this already?? and will the use the same thinking when it leads to the palace, nothing to see here lads, move along.....no no no , nothing at all!!

UPDATE

from David Icke's site

One of those is a best-selling musician, but like some others on the list he is not suspected of being involved in the child abuse.

Sunday People

So, the excuses are starting to be made.

This famous wealthy pop star just happened to be a guest of Elm Guest House, where it just so happened that young boys were bussed over for others to abuse but he didn’t abuse them and he knew nothing about what was going on, is that it ?

What about this ?

A world-famous pop star is being investigated over alleged sex offences after his name was passed to police working on theJimmy Savile case.

The platinum-selling artist, a household name, is one of 25 figures facing probes under Operation Yewtree, which began after the Savile scandalbroke earlier this year…..

……..The name of the pop star was first handed to police in 2008 when a convicted sex offender claimed he was part of a paedophile ring with Savile.

The paedo was in Whitemoor Prison, Cambs, at the time and passed a list of other child sex offenders to his probation officer. It is understood the list was handed to police but there was not enough evidence for them to act.

Now his name has come up again, he is being “actively investigated”, according to sources close to the inquiry.

The Mirror

So, this famous wealthy pop star, as well as having stayed in a small guest house where young boys were regularly abused, has also been named by a convicted paedophile in 2008 ? This is totally separate from Elm Guest House.

And that is not the limit of it, and the police know it !

There can be no excuses this time. Too much information is already in the public domain.

THE POLICE MUST HAVE THIS FINAL CHANCE BUT IF THEY COVER THIS **** UP AGAIN THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY

Cidersomerset

25th January 2013, 16:24

Ted Heath: The Cottaging Paedophile (and serial child killer)

Friday, 25 January 2013 12:29

Posted by David Icke

Why didn't those who clearly knew do anything to protect his abused and murdered victims?

Read More.....

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/78839-ted-heath-the-cottaging-paedophile-and-serial-child-killer

http://21stcenturywire.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/heath-yatch.jpg

Cidersomerset

28th January 2013, 00:05

Child Abuse Police Investigate Alleged Visits By Thatcher Cabinet Minister Leon
Brittan To Elm Guest House

Sunday, 27 January 2013 13:41

Posted by David Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/January201396/b4000002.jpg

'Leon Brittan left British politics suddenly in 1989 to become a European
Commissioner after receiving a Knighthood. He became Baron Brittan of
Spennithorne in 2000.

As Home Secretary, with oversight of the police and the judiciary, he took a
slow, ‘step by step’ approach to requests that the then legal organisation, The
Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), should be outlawed. He was presented with
lists of known perpetrators and members of PIE. It is unclear at this stage what
action, if any, he took.'

Read more ...

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/78918-child-abuse-police-investigate-alleged-visits-by-thatcher-cabinet-minister-leon-brittan-to-elm-guest-house

Cidersomerset

28th January 2013, 12:04

Some Politicians Like Boy Brothels?

Monday, 28 January 2013 09:42

Posted by David Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/January201397/elmguesthouseadvertisement.jpg

'A newsletter, dated 8 April 1982 states: "I am glad to publicise another
establishment (Elm Guest House) strongly recommended by members."

The newsletter's editor was Peter Campbell, a libertarian Conservative. He was a
politics professor at Reading university, and he in 2005.

The copy of the newsletter obtained by Exaro has a hand-written note from 'Peter'
at the top that reads: "I have now inserted the entry about the hotel but can't find
the text about the Dutch venture - could you please let me have another copy?"'

Read more: Politicians Like Boy Brothels?

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/78949-politicians-like-boy-brothels-

Cidersomerset

28th January 2013, 12:10

I am not posting these articles against consenting adults of whatever sexual
persuasion but highlighting crimes against children and unconsenting adults !!
and the hypocracy and double standards of some of the 'elites' & others who
are put in privolaged positions to help run the country and not use their power
& privalge to take advantage of others.

We know this runs deep at the top and probably goes into dark areas, and
ordinary people are caught up in it as well,so just updating the thread as
news comes along...Steve..

====================================================

MIRROR NEWS.........online...........By Keir Mudie, David Hencke 26 January 2013

Paedo brothel advertised in Tory leaflet: Party's gay link to guest house
26 Jan 2013 21:00

Sunday People and Exaro investigation reveals Conservative Group for Homosexual
Equality newsletter 'strongly recommended' visits to Elm Guest House

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1546260.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/££+Flats+that+used+to+be+Elm+Guest+House

Flats that used to be Elm Guest House
John Clare/Newspics Ltd

A Tory Party gay campaign group promoted the guest house at the centre of the
VIP paedophile investigation.

The Conservative Group for Homosexual Equality “strongly recommended” visits to
Elm Guest House in a newsletter to members, a Sunday People and Exaro
investigation has revealed.

The three-page leaflet – obtained by the Exaro news website – said facilities
included a sauna and video studio.

Scotland Yard has launched an investigation after allegations that VIPs including six
senior Tories, businessmen and members of the royal household took part in child
abuse at the guest house in upmarket Barnes, south-west London, in the 1980s.

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1558132.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/CGHE-newsletter

CGHE-newsletter

Among the claims are that horrific videos of young boys being molested were made
at the guest house and sold through an underground paedophile network.

Last week the Sunday People revealed that a hand-written list of alleged VIP
abusers had been seized in a raid on the home of Mary Moss, a former child
protection campaigner.

But the unearthing of the 1982 newsletter is the first actual proof of a Tory link to
the guest house – originally raised by campaigning Labour MP Tom Watson in the
Commons.

Tory party fringe group CGHE regularly publicised social venues that its members
might enjoy in type-written newsletters.

http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1557829.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Elm+Guest+House+advertisement

Elm Guest House advertisement

One dated April 8, 1982, carried a glowing plug for the Elm.

It said: “I am glad to publicise another establishment strongly recommended by
members.”

The newsletter gave the full address and two telephone numbers for the guest
house and said: “It is just over Hammersmith Bridge, is well served by
underground and bus services and by British Rail, and is near the M4, A3, A4 and A40.”

It added: “The facilities include a sauna, solarium and video studio.”

http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1546260.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/££+Flats+that+used+to+be+Elm+Guest+House

Flats that used to be Elm Guest House
John Clare/Newspics Ltd

The newsletter’s editor was Peter Campbell, a libertarian Conservative who founded CGHE in 1975 when homosexuality was still taboo.

He was a politics professor at Reading university, Berks, and died aged 78 in 2005.

The copy of the newsletter obtained by Exaro also has a hand-written note
from “Peter” at the top that reads: “I have now inserted the entry about the hotel
but can’t find the text about the Dutch venture – could you please let me have
another copy?”

Just two months after the newsletter, police raided the guest house.

Its owners, Haroon, or “Harry”, and Carole Kasir were convicted at the Old Bailey of
running a disorderly house, meaning a brothel.

But there are claims the VIP abuse was covered up by Establishment figures to
protect the Tory government of the day.

http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1557828.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Haroon+aka+Harry+Kasir

Haroon Kasir
Newspics

CGHE held fringe meetings at the annual Conservative party conference in the 1980
s but attracted few people.

According to the minutes of its executive committee, there were 62 members in
early 1981, but this had increased to 171 by late 1983.

The group campaigned for the age of consent for sex between homosexual men to
be decreased from 21 to 16 in line with the age for heterosexuals.

The CGHE’s president from 1980 until his death in 1987 was Ian Harvey, a former
junior foreign minister.

Mr Harvey was forced to quit as minister after being caught with a Coldstream
Guardsman in London’s St James’s Park in 1958 when homosexual acts were illegal.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/paedo-brothel-elm-guest-house-1558001

Soul Safari

28th January 2013, 12:40

James Martinez touches on the Jimmy Saville story-

http://www.achieveradio.com/archplayer.php?showname=Cash%20Flow%20with%20James%20Martinez&sn=66&ShowURL=http://audio.achieveradio.com/cash-flow/2013-01-15--1200---Cash_Flow.mp3

Cidersomerset

28th January 2013, 12:50

James Martinez touches on the Jimmy Saville story-

http://www.achieveradio.com/archplay...-Cash_Flow.mp3

Thanks Soul Safari ,i heard it cheers for posting...Steve

Aprox 31 mins it he talks about Saville and plays a clip with Radio
host Nicky Cambell & Paul Gambaccini who worked at the BBC
at the time.

He also played a clip from David Icke talking about it in a previous
show i think......

James is on the ball and knows all about MK Ultra while collaberating
with his friend Walter Bowarte author of operation mind control.
He mentions it in the above show that the Bourn Identy films
are basically true !

Soul Safari

28th January 2013, 13:00

Haha yeah, thought you might have already checked this.. I know you love a bit of Ion and Cash Flow.

Cidersomerset

2nd February 2013, 18:56

Timebomb at Elm Guest House: Pop stars, a bishop and a top politician appear on a
list seized by police investigating child abuse at the London hotel in the 1980s

Saturday, 02 February 2013 10:02

Posted by David Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/Feb2013/article-2272253-174ba047000005dc-801_306x454.jpg

'The campaigner claimed that he had been told by Mrs Kasir that boys had been
brought in from a children’s home for sex. She had told him she had photographs
or video of many establishment figures at her hotel, including a bishop. One
photograph allegedly showed a former cabinet minister in a sauna with a naked boy.

The same campaigner told us this week that he could not speak at length because
the police wanted to interview him. However, he claimed he knew of 11 boys from
Grafton Close Children’s Home who had been abused at the Elm Guest House.

He added: "Carole Kasir had logbooks, names, times, dates, even pictures of
people who went in and out of Elm Guest House. Her house was raided in the
Eighties. The police say it was done by a local force, but I know it was done by
Special Branch. That evidence — of who visited Elm Guest House — no longer
exists."'

This is how they get away with it. The Establishment protects itself from exposure.

Read more ...

MAIL ON LINE....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2272253/Timebomb-Elm-Guest-House-Pop-stars-bishop-politician-appear-list-seized-police-investigating-child-abuse-London-hotel-1980s.html#axzz2JjHbXy7U

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/79211-timebomb-at-elm-guest-house-pop-stars-a-bishop-and-a-top-politician-appear-on-a-list-seized-by-police-investigating-child-abuse-at-the-london-hotel-in-the-1980s

Cidersomerset

2nd February 2013, 19:02

Although this thread is mainly about the current Saville & others paedophile sex scandels...

This goes on all over the world, an RT Article yesterday highlights a democratic senator...

Senator Menendez accused of soliciting underage prostitutes

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Published on 1 Feb 2013

Yet another senator in DC has been embroiled in a sex scandal - this
time Democrat from New Jersey Robert Menendez. He allegedly
consorted with prostitutes in Dominican republic some of them being
16 years old. RT's Liz Wahl has the details.

Earth Angel

2nd February 2013, 19:34

why is nobody leaking the name of the pop star ??

Cidersomerset

3rd February 2013, 12:42

Elm guest house scandal: First victim of paedophile guest house breaks his silence

Sunday, 03 February 2013 11:08

Posted by David Icke

http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1572028.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/PEOPLE+ONLY+A+man+who+was+sexually+abused+at+the+VIP+Paedophile+Guest+House.jpg

'A victim of the VIP paedophile guest house has told the Sunday People of the horrors that went on there.

The former care home orphan says he and his 12-year-old brother were sent by staff to the Elm Guest House for “a treat”.
There they were lured into cider and beer-drinking races to get them drunk and ordered to dress in girls’ fairy costumes
while their pictures were taken. Finally they were forced to take part in vile sex acts after phoney games of hide-and-seek.'

Read more ...

DAILY MIRROR ON LINE...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/first-victim-of-elm-guest-house-1572073

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/79249-elm-guest-house-scandal-first-victim-of-paedophile-guest-house-breaks-his-silence-

Cidersomerset

3rd February 2013, 20:33

Catholic Hell: Faith fails as sex abuse in church silenced

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Published on 3 Feb 2013

Reputation of the German Catholic Church have resulted in
more and more worshippers turning their backs on it.
Child abuse, sexual harassment cases committed by
priests that don't even get to court are seen as the main
reason for dramatically shrinking congregations. You may
find some of the details in Peter Oliver's report disturbing.

Cidersomerset

4th February 2013, 15:01

Paedophiles and politics: The scandal that may yet unseat David Cameron
Monday, 04 February 2013 12:24
Posted by David Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/Feb20131/7518115.jpg

'... Wrexham Council has been sitting on a controversial shelved report into North Wales child abuse. The Councillors have been running the media Around the Houses for Eighty Days, despite acknowledged FOI [Freedom of Information] requests from both the Welsh Daily Post and the site Wrexham.com. Having admitted that yes, they do indeed have the report, there is no way the Council can stonewall for much longer.

I’m reliably told the report contains a savage criticism of police collusion, as well as the ‘mystifying’ decision of one senior Tory Minister at the time not to take things further. It also massively implicates the little-known relative of a figure already involved in deep controversy over paedophile allegations. And it might hold further clues as to the business influence this relatively obscure figure allegedly had with Conservative politicians in the 1970s.'

Read more ...

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/79284-paedophiles-and-politics-the-scandal-that-may-yet-unseat-david-cameron

learninglight

5th February 2013, 09:46

FYI

When Jimmy Talks, you would be wise to listen.
Posted by admin On February - 4 - 2013
The real Jimmy Jones

Spivs Comment

Below this foreword is a piece written by Jimmy Jones in regard to Operation Fernbridge.

Jimmy says that he is;
“not a Journalist, nor an Investigator, or even an accredited writer. I am just an ordinary bloke who happens to possess a enquiring mind, a sharp tongue and a firm footing on the ground upon which I walk”.

In my opinion, Jimmy is selling himself short.

I first came upon Jimmy after David Icke published something Jim had written in regards to Steve Messham. I in turn used that piece after which Jimmy then contacted me.

There followed a series of E mails between us where it became obvious to me – without being stated – that Jimmy had suffered terrible abuse in the Welsh Care homes. However, far from seeing himself as a victim, Jimmy educated himself and is fighting back at a system that allowed him and thousands of other children to be used as nothing more than playthings for the powerful. It was in fact, Jimmy who named Sir Peter Morrison as being a paedophile on channel 4 news. Even then, Channel 4 stitched him up by deliberately misreporting that Morrison had carried out this abuse in the Bryn Estyn care home. The purveyors of propaganda did so for no other reason than it fitted in with the Steve Messham story.

Steve Messham, unfortunately sold his soul to the devil. He too, was in a position to help the victims of this terrible abuse, carried out by very powerful, prominent politicians, past and present. Messham wasn’t lying when he stated that it wasn’t Alistair McAlpine that sexually abused him. Then again, that was part of the plan all along. McAlpine may not have abused Messham, but he certainly abused many, many others and much, much worse… Still waiting for my letter Andrew Reid.

Having never been a victim of abuse myself, I often ask Jimmy for advice, before I publish articles based around child abuse. When he says that he has ‘a firm footing on the ground upon which he walks’, he isn’t exaggerating.

This is why I tell you that when my friend Jimmy talks, you would be wise to listen…

FERNBRIDGE…”Scotland Yard have launched a full investigation into allegations that Conservative politicians were members of a paedophile ring which abused children in care the 1980s. Operation Fernbridge will centre on the alleged historic sexual abuse of children at Elm Guest House, in Rocks Lane, a suburban street in Barnes, south-west London. Residents of a nearby care home run by Richmond Council claim they were sexually assaulted at the property by a network of prominent individuals, including Tory MPs, who used their connections to escape justice. The allegations are one of several lines of inquiry being considered by specialist detectives at the country’s biggest force as a result of information supplied to them by Labour MP Tom Watson.”I am not a Journalist, nor an Investigator, or even an accredited writer. I am just an ordinary bloke who happens to possess a enquiring mind, a sharp tongue and a firm footing on the ground upon which I walk.
I also know the difference between right and wrong, and will always speak out against what I feel to be an injustice. Those of you who have been following the story referred to at the start of this article, will surely have realised by now, that there is something inherently wrong and deeply disturbing about, not only the original tabloid version of the story, but also the investigation that has been designed to uncover the ‘truth.’

From the moment the story broke, plans were put into place to distract, cover-up and bury the truth so deeply it would never see the light of day. To even the most casual observer, it has been glaringly obvious, and only a complete fool would even contemplate anything else.

The cover-up began when an ex-Care Home resident and historic abuse victim, Steven Messham was thrust blinking and bewildered, into the media spotlight, by one or more of the architects of this hurriedly constructed plan.

Whether he was aware of it or not, is unimportant, as Mr Messham was just a convenient and totally expendable pawn in a very elaborate series of events, that were being played out in plain sight of the enquiring gaze of the public.

This had followed the Jimmy Savile revelations of course, which had to be played down, or even made to ‘go away’ altogether, due to the unprecedented level of damaging and criminal implications, for the numerous high-level establishment figures who were connected to him.

It has already been established that Jimmy Savile was a procurer of children.

Though strongly suspected, but as yet unproven, some of the people that these children were obtained for were extraordinary wealthy and equally powerful establishment figures.
I have no need to reel off a list of names here as most of them can be obtained by any number of means.

The strength and reach of this establishment cover-up is truly staggering, powerful figures like Lord McAlpine had been flown into the country to defend his damaged reputation against an accuser that had not even named him. This was the mainstream media playing their part in the charade, as they too were heavily implicated, as the BBC and the media had many dark secrets of their own.

With the public transfixed on the re-opened and entirely media-led North Wales Care Homes scandal, and the McAlpine threats of legal action against Social Media, both the BBC and ITV had capitulated without a fight, and handed over hundreds of thousands of pounds. This was suspicious in itself, as these media behemoths could have easily fought the libel action as no actual name was mentioned nor printed.

We know now why this happened. It was a warning shot across the bows of anyone who, dared come forward with information accusing any establishment figure of any wrongdoing. It has had the desired effect, as even now, there are a few diligent and tenacious MSM Journalists working on this story, who are being constantly hindered by vital witnesses’ fears of threatened litigation.

This again is a smokescreen. Nobody to my knowledge has actually been sued, and that most Social Media networks, do not have any intention of releasing the personal details of any of their users. The BBC and ITV payouts also a vital part of the establishment deception, and even the well known political figure’s wife, has now gone strangely quiet with regard to her original intention to fight the legal implications of her *innocent face* Tweet.

The people involved in this, are by their very nature secretive, they will never be open and honest about anything they do, and that has, and always will be the case. They lie, cheat, deceive and commit criminal and immoral acts of every kind, as they know full well that they can safely hide behind the facade of respectability that their wealth, power and position brings them.

So now we can move onto the latest chapter, the Elm Guest House and the ‘Fernbridge’ police investigation that was covertly set up by none other than David Cameron, following the MP Tom Watson’s question about a ‘Paedophile Network with links to Number 10.’

The Elm Guest House was run by Carole Kasir between 1979-1982 where she provided an ‘unthreatening meeting place for homosexual men, free from the stigma of a sexual orientation’.

An opportunity for gay men to “be themselves”.

Mary Moss and Christopher Fay have made allegations of the sexual abuse of children at the Elm Guest House. Allegedly carried out by ‘rich and powerful men.’

Carole Kasir herself died at the age of 47 in 1990 under ‘suspicious circumstances.’ It is rumoured that she too, was about to go ‘public’ after her release from prison, and therefore had to be silenced.

May I suggest that this is the main reason that the distractions, booby traps and massive cover-ups mentioned above were put into place. There are still some very dark secrets to be revealed, and if proven to be true, will without a doubt have repercussions that could resonate for generations to come.

I would even go so far as to say that the establishment are so desperate for the story to stay hidden, that this Government are ready and willing to commit us to fighting a new war in West Africa to distract from the truth getting out.

Too far fetched?

After the revelations of the last few moths, is there anyone in any doubt anout the lengths that some parts of the establishment will go to prevent the truth getting out?Some details are being leaked though, some of course are red herrings thrown in to add to the general fog of distrust and distraction, but look past the obvious and you will see the pieces slowly coming together.Among those details emerging is a list of names, dates and places that were allegedly handwritten by Mary Moss or Jo Flores as she is sometimes known, and posted on the Internet.
Everybody’s attention was of course focused on the ‘names’ on the list, almost entirely overlooking some very significant details, which at first glance mean very little, but taken in context with other details take on a significantly new meaning.

One of those details, was the address of a male brothel at 156 Coltman Street, Hull, where coincidentally, a murder occurred which had striking similarities to the killing of the Crimewatch presenter Jill Dando in 1999, who is rumoured to have been murdered as she was about to blow the whistle on a rumoured Paedophile ring operating in a similar manner in West London.

http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Derek-George-tells-Lyndon-Coles-stop-moaning-like/story-17870523-detail/story.html

Two men were convicted of the Hull murder and served 19 years in prison and have always protested they were innocent and the victims of a ‘stitch-up.’ There are significant doubts about the original conviction, and the accused man’s family have publicly named the men they believe are responsible, but the South Yorkshire Police have said that the CPS will not pursue the case as there was ‘insufficient evidence’ to secure a conviction!

There is also the case of missing schoolboys Martin Allen aged 15, and Vishal Mehotra aged 8, who were believed to have been abducted and possibly murdered in 1979 by men believed by Detectives to be part of a VIP Paedophile network. MP’s and a member of the Buckingham Palace Staff were suspected by Scotland Yard detectives as being clients of male prostitutes as young as the missing boys.

The Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) membership list may well hold key information and the imprisoned ex-leader Stephen Adrian Freeman may be the one to ask….

Link : http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=9320

Sharon

Cidersomerset

5th February 2013, 20:07

Did Richmond council pay 'hush money' to cover up the Elm Guest House child abuse scandal?
Tuesday, 05 February 2013 11:12
Posted by David Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/Feb20132/richmond-upon-thames.jpg

'One of the most disturbing of the many sordid facts emerging in this tale of a 30
year child sex abuse scandal is the role of Richmond Council.

It is their kids in care who were allegedly procured from their homes – mainly the
now closed Grafton Close home – and taken to Elm Guest House – and then
sexually abused by prominent people including ministers, and MPs.'

Read more ...

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/79318-did-richmond-council-pay-hush-money-to-cover-up-the-elm-guest-house-child-abuse-scandal

Cidersomerset

6th February 2013, 23:18

Police told in the eighties that high profile guests maybe
in the guest house.

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Published on 6 Feb 2013

Two men have been arrested under Operation Fernbridge,
the police investigation looking into claims that prominent
politicians were among a group of paedophiles abused boys
in the 1980s.

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THE TELEGRAPH ONLINE...

Two arrested in Elm House paedophile ring investigation
Detectives investigating allegations of a paedophile ring operating at a children’s
home in London in the 1970s and 1980s have arrested two men on suspicion of
sexual offences.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9852237/Two-arrested-in-Elm-House-paedophile-ring-investigation.html

norman

6th February 2013, 23:38

I was working in a recording studio in the 70s when a visiting producer told us, over a few drinks, about a certain pop star ( who is well known as a Christian ) who'd been caught red handed by the met police in an inappropriate situation with a young boy, late at night.

At the time we just laughed it off and got back to our own business.

It didn't seem likely, but I put it away in the back of my mind all these years.

Now, I see it's looking extremely likely it was bloody true.

I wonder what our extradition arrangements are like with Barbados.

Cidersomerset

8th February 2013, 18:53

BBC ONLINE...

7 February 2013 Last updated at 08:56

Cyril Smith abuse claims: 'Police alerted in 1965'

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Twelve men have so far accused Sir Cyril of abusing them in the 1960s

Fears that Sir Cyril Smith was sexually abusing boys were reported to police four
years before an investigation was opened, it has been claimed.Social worker
Lyndon Price said he raised the issue with the chief constable of Rochdale in 1965.
Mr Price, director of social services in Rochdale from 1971 to 84, said that Chief
Constable Patrick Ross later told him no action would be taken.

Lancashire Police investigated Sir Cyril in 1969 without charging him.

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) has admitted that Sir Cyril should have been
prosecuted for abusing boys in the 1960s.

Sir Cyril was originally a Labour councillor in Rochdale and later a Liberal then
Liberal Democrat MP for the town. He died in 2010 aged 82.
So far 12 men have accused him of abusing them in the 1960s, both at the
Cambridge House children's home, a privately-run care home which closed in 1965,
and the council-run Knowl View residential school which shut in 1992.

Mr Price said that shortly after arriving in Rochdale in 1965 he was approached by
another social worker who had worries about what was happening at Cambridge
House, which was run at the time in part by Smith, then a town councillor.

'Surprising reply'

"He was concerned that there were irregularities in the disciplinary practices being
undertaken by Councillor Smith - I don't want to enlarge what they were, but they
gave me considerable cause for concern because I thought the wellbeing of the
young people in the hostel was in jeopardy," said Mr Price.

"I made up my mind within a day or so to contact the chief constable."

Mr Price said he received a "surprising" reply when he contacted Patrick Ross, chief
constable of the now defunct Rochdale Borough Police.

"I thought his words at the time were rather unusual: he said, 'It has been decided
that we will take no further action' - not 'I have decided'," said Mr Price.

Smith was investigated in 1969 by Lancashire Police, but the Department of Public
Prosecutions decided to take no further action.

Mr Ross later became assistant chief constable of Sussex Police. A former member
of the Sussex Police Authority, who did not wish to be named, described him as
being "straight as a die" and a man who would bluntly have a word in the ear of
someone who he thought was in the wrong.

Sir Cyril stood down as the Liberal Democrat for Rochdale in 1992. He had been a
Labour councillor in the town in the 1950s and 60s

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-21364579

Cidersomerset

8th February 2013, 18:58

M15 and police conspire to more than just protect elite paedophiles - they organise abuse

Friday, 08 February 2013 10:34

Posted by David Icke

'I was raising in Parliament against Mrs Thatcher the Kincora Boys Home where
boys were being abused and MI5 was filming it because they were hoping to be
able to blackmail senior politicians in Northern Ireland. They were hoping to catch
one of Ian Paisley's MP's - and they never did - and give themselves some
leverage. The truth is there's been an awful lot of covering up of paedophiles and
paedophile rings for decades and decades.'

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/Feb20135/savile.jpg

Read more ...

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/79526-m15-and-police-conspire-to-more-than-just-protect-elite-paedophiles-they-organise-abuse-

Cidersomerset

11th February 2013, 23:03

Thatcher's Cesspool

Monday, 11 February 2013 11:37

Posted by David Icke

This is an article from 1983, the year that Thatcher won her second election.

Will Great Britain's paedophile scandal bring down Lord Carrington?

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/Feb20137/4497130_450_450_690_0_fit_0_1ba61281b14b55a9cd2bf6670173fbd7.jpg

Lord Carrington, now 93, was Foreign Secretary in Thatcher's first government
in the run up to the Falklands war; Secretary General of NATO; business partner
of Henry Kissinger; and long time chairman of the Bilderberg Group. He is widely
featured in ... And The Truth Shall Set You Free.

Read more ...

http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1983/eirv10n48-19831213/eirv10n48-19831213_041-will_great_britains_pedophile_sc.pdf

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/79638-thatchers-cesspool

Cidersomerset

11th February 2013, 23:07

Elm guest house: Home Office was warned by top Tory 30 years ago of VIP paedophile ring

Sunday, 10 February 2013 11:30

Posted by David Icke

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Geoffrey Dickens

'A senior Tory MP handed an explosive dossier alleging VIP child
abuse to the Government almost 30 years ago, the Sunday People
can reveal.The 50 pages contained information about suspected
paedophile rings, police misconduct and abuse of boys in a care home.

There are suggestions the dossier contained links to the notorious
Elm guest house in south-west London which is currently the focus
of the Met Police’s investigation Operation Fernbridge.

But the file has disappeared.

It was presented to the Home Office by Geoffrey Dickens MP in 1984.
Later he had a half-hour meeting with the then-Home Secretary Leon
Brittan which Mr Dickens described as encouraging.'

Read more ...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/home-office-was-warned-by-top-tory-1647786

Cidersomerset

13th February 2013, 20:34

Police failed to act on evidence of 'powerful paedophile ring' in 1994

Wednesday, 13 February 2013 13:03

Posted by David Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/Feb20138/keystone-cops-granger.jpg

If the reason for the non-investigation of elite paedophiles was due to police
incompetence it would be bad enough, but it goes far deeper than that and the
competence comes in how they block the exposure and arrest of paedophile
politicians and royalty.Sleep well, chaps.

Decent proper coppers must tear their hair out.

'A person claiming to be Tom Watson’s source for his PMQ [Prime Minister's
Questions] about “a powerful paedophile network linked to Parliament and No. 10″
has been posting comments on this blog. As I’ve said before, I have reason to
believe they are who they say they are. This is their most recent comment, which
shows that police failed to investigate the same allegations in 1994.'

Read more ...

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David Hamilton Grant

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/Feb20138/untitled2.png

'The schematic below is a transcription of an image from the ‘Mary Moss’
documents which appeared online several weeks ago. I’d just like to correct one
common misconception, these documents were not written by Mary Moss, they
were written by Christopher Fay, a former NAYPIC advisor and John Oaks a
journalist friend of Mr Fay.

The documents are very difficult to read from the online images but I believe that
the ‘family tree’ schematic below, which was created by a team working on the
David Icke forums is a fairly accurate representation, though there are a few minor
errors.

The name that appears at the centre of the ‘family tree’ has been transcribed
as ‘Hamilton-Grant’. I believe I’m now in a position to confirm that this is very likely
to be David Hamilton Grant, a porn producer who died in 1991 under somewhat
mysterious circumstances.'

Read more ...

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Child Abuse Victim Writes Book Naming Names

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Read more ...

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/79748-child-abuse-victim-writes-book-naming-names

Cidersomerset

15th February 2013, 15:47

15 February 2013 Last updated at 13:00 .Coronation Street's Michael Le Vell
charged with child rape Michael Le Vell has acted in Coronation Street since 1983
Coronation Street actor Michael Le Vell has been charged with a string of sex
offences, including raping a child.

Police said the 48-year-old who plays Kevin Webster in the soap is also accused of
indecently assaulting a child and sexual activity with a child.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/57774000/jpg/_57774188_57774187.jpg

Mr Le Vell, whose real name is Michael Turner, is due before magistrates in
Manchester on 27 February.

In a statement released by the actor, he said he would fight the charges "vigorously".

He faces a total of 19 charges relating to crimes allegedly committed between 2001
and 2010.

Alison Levitt QC, principal legal adviser to the Director of Public Prosecutions, said
she had reviewed a decision not to prosecute Mr Le Vell following allegations made
against him in 2011.

She said: "I have very carefully reviewed the evidence in this case and I have
concluded that there is sufficient evidence and it is in the public interest to charge
Michael Robert Turner with a number of sexual offences.

"I have authorised Greater Manchester Police to charge Mr Turner with 19 offences,
including rape of a child.

"Mr Turner has now been charged with criminal offences and has a right to a fair
trial."

The actor, from Hale in Greater Manchester, has played the role of garage
mechanic Kevin Webster for 30 years, making him one of the longest-serving
performers in Coronation Street.

In a statement Mr Le Vell said he was innocent of all charges and would "fight them
vigorously".

An ITV spokesman said: "Given the serious nature of these charges, Michael Le Vell
will not be appearing in Coronation Street pending the outcome of legal
proceedings.

"It would not be appropriate for us to comment further at this time."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21468687

Cidersomerset

17th February 2013, 13:48

DAILY MIRROR ON LINE......

News
UK News
Jimmy Savile child abuse

By Justin Penrose

VIP paedophile ring The net closes: Ex-Tory chief faces child sex arrest over claims
girl was raped and boys were abused
16 Feb 2013 22:30

The probe into a former Cabinet minister, the notorious paedophile Sidney Cooke,
Jimmy Savile and MP Cyril Smith

Ex-minister: He allegedly raped a girl

http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1464645.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Silhouette

Police are preparing to arrest a former Tory Cabinet minister after a woman came
forward to claim she had been raped by him as a girl.

Detectives are also investigating claims that he abused boys.

We can reveal that the former minister is suspected of being part of a VIP
paedophile ring that was regularly handed boys by child rapist and killer Sidney
Cooke for vile sex orgies.

The former high-ranking MP, who we cannot name, is under investigation by
Scotland Yard’s paedophile unit.

Sources close to the probe gave details of the new allegations to the Sunday Mirror
and investigative news website Exaro.

A former detective who worked on the original investigation into Cooke told the
Sunday Mirror that the minister was among those alleged to have been
photographed in a 1986 police surveillance on premises where boys had been
dropped off.

Others allegedly included Jimmy Savile, MP Cyril Smith and top judges – though
none of them were ever arrested.

Cooke, 85 – dubbed Britain’s most notorious paedophile after he tortured and killed
14-year-old Jason Swift in 1985 – would pick the unsuspecting teenage boys up off
the streets around Kings Cross.

He would drive them to locations across North London where paedophiles lay in
wait to repeatedly rape them.

Last week the former officer, who worked on Operation Orchid which convicted
Cooke and his gang, said they had taken pictures of the minister

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/former-tory-faces-child-sex-1714162

Cidersomerset

17th February 2013, 13:51

Ratzinger to live at the Vatican to ensure immunity from prosecution over child
abuse cover up (the reason, among many other things, why he became the first
Pope in 600 years to resign)

Sunday, 17 February 2013 13:53

Posted by David Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/Feb201391/ratzinger.jpg

'Didn't I see you at choir practice?'

'Pope Benedict's decision to live in the Vatican after he resigns will provide him with
security and privacy. It will also offer legal protection from any attempt to
prosecute him in connection with sexual abuse cases around the world, Church
sources and legal experts say.'

Read more ...

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/80028-ratzinger-to-live-at-the-vatican-to-ensure-immunity-from-prosecution-over-child-abuse-cover-up-the-reason-among-many-other-things-why-he-became-the-first-pope-in-600-years-to-resign

Cidersomerset

18th February 2013, 20:55

BBC ONLINE....Some people should not be reabilitated back into society !!

18 February 2013 Last updated at 10:28

Marc Dutroux's mother pleads against release Dutroux has served more than 15
years of a life term for abduction, rape and murder Continue reading the main story

They have been released before for raping children,before going onto murder
these poor girls and whatever else they have been involved in !!

Both Dutroux and Martin were jailed in the 1980s for kidnapping and raping five young girls, but were freed early on good behaviour - only to go on to
abduct more young victims.

http://media.meltybuzz.fr/article-1306416-ajust_614/marc-dutroux-lors-de-son-proces-a-huit-clos.jpg

The mother of Belgian child killer Marc Dutroux has urged the courts not to grant
his appeal for early release.Jeannine Dutroux, 78, said she was sure her son would
reoffend if allowed out of prison, in what are thought to be her first public
comments since he was jailed in 2004.A court is due to rule on his parole request
later on Monday.Dutroux, 56, was given a life sentence for kidnapping and raping
six girls, four of whom died.

He was arrested in 1996; Belgian law states prisoners can be freed after serving 15
years of a life sentence if they are no longer considered a risk.Dutroux insists he is
not a danger to the public any more, and wants to be released into house arrest
with an electronic tag.But his mother told Le Soir Magazine: "I am certain he will
start again. Marc isn't ready to be released because he still wants to attribute to
others the responsibility for what he did.

"This is a repeat offender in his soul, as he has already proved throughout his life."

Le Soir Magazine is usually published on Wednesday but was rushed out on Monday ahead of the court's ruling.

Continue reading the main story
Kidnap victims
Julie Lejeune, 8, starved
Melissa Russo, 8, starved
An Marchal, 17, buried in garden
Eefje Lambrecks, 19, buried in garden
Sabine Dardenne, then aged 12 - survived
Laetitia Delhez, then aged 14 - survived

Ex-wife's release

The Dutroux case outraged Belgium, not just because of the nature of the crimes,
but also the blunders in the police investigation.Police had visited the house where
Dutroux was hiding two of his eight-year-old victims, without finding them. They
were later found starved to death.Although Dutroux was initially arrested in 1995,
the case did not come to court until 2004.

Dutroux even escaped custody during a court visit in 1998. He was swiftly
recaptured, but Belgium's police chief, justice minister and interior minister later
resigned.Dutroux was finally convicted in 2004 of the abduction and rape of six
girls, and the murder of two of them - teenagers An Marchal and Eefje Lambrecks -
along with the murder of Dutroux's suspected accomplice Bernard Weinstein.

Two other eight-year-old girls starved to death.

In August last year, Belgium's highest court allowed Dutroux's ex-wife, Michelle
Martin, to be freed and transferred to a convent after serving 16 years of her 30-
year sentence.Martin was arrested in 1996 and convicted in 2004 of complicity in
the starvation deaths of the two eight-year-olds kidnapped by Dutroux and of
helping him in the abduction of a number of others.

Her release generated huge anger in Belgium.

Both Dutroux and Martin were jailed in the 1980s for kidnapping and raping five
young girls, but were freed early on good behaviour - only to go on to abduct more
young victims.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21496786

Cidersomerset

18th February 2013, 21:13

Metropolitan Police Covered Up VIP Paedophile Ring

Monday, 18 February 2013 10:54
Posted by David Icke

'Today the Mirror reveals evidence from a former detective that he and his team
were forced to abandon an investigation into the VIP Paedophile Ring because
senior officers in the Metropolitan Police stole the evidence. The evidence included
photographs of a Cabinet Minister and senior Judges sexually abusing children. The
fact the Senior Police officers illegally stole evidence to protect serious criminals,
without any inquiry or complaint, is evidence of a breakdown of the rule of law in
the United Kingdom.'

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Top Tory to be Arrested For Child Abuse

Sydney Cook, whose pedophile ring has been linked to a former UK government minister.

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So Few Police Officers Prosecuted and Even Fewer Sent to Jail for Paedophilia

'The problem in the British Police with paedophilia in their ranks is a story that has
been bubbling around for quite some time, but the mainstream media and judiciary
has buried each and every case that has come to light. The first thing to note is the
very careful use of words, the British mainstream media avoid ever linking Police,
Celebrities or the powerful with the word “paedophilia”, it is instead called… “Kiddie
Porn” or “Child Porn” or various other euphemisms. On the other hand, if an
average person is caught with images of child sex abuse they are almost always
labelled as a “paedophile”.'

Read more ...

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/80065-metropolitan-police-covered-up-vip-paedophile-ring

Cidersomerset

20th February 2013, 07:42

PRESS TV...

Tuesday Feb 19, 201307:27 PM GMT

US has failed to pursue the church pedophilia: UN

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Cardinal Roger Mahony and other top Roman Catholic officials from the Archdiocese
of Los Angeles worked behind the scenes to protect priests involved in sexual abuse
of children. (File photo)

The United Nations has accused the United States for failing to pursue cases of
child sex abuse among religious leaders and groups.

The Committee on the Rights of the Child released a report this month highlighting
widespread sexual abuse committed by clerics and staff of religious institutions in
America, along with a lack of measures “to properly investigate cases and
prosecute them".

"The committee is deeply concerned at information of sexual abuse committed by
clerics and leading members of certain faith-based organizations and religious
institutions on a massive and long-term scale," the report said.

This comes as the American Catholic Church attempts to tackle an ongoing
nationwide scandal over a pattern of covering-up allegations of sexual crimes
committed by abusive priests.

Last week, Pope Benedict announced his resignation from his position, citing an
inability to carry out his papal duties, while also apologizing for the widespread
sexual abuse in the church, giving hope to those who seek to open Church files to
help prosecute undiscovered cases of clerical sexual cruelty.

"We can only hope that his successor opens the secret files and treats victims with
the respect they deserve," said Keith Porteous Wood, the director of the National
Secular Society.

Sexual abuses in the Catholic Church arose in the 1980s and hit a major crisis in
2002 when systematic cover-ups were exposed.

Approximately 80 percent of reported cases of sexual abuse of minors worldwide
have happened in the United States occurring in cities across the country, including
Boston, Chicago, Honolulu, Los Angeles, Orange County, Palm Beach, Philadelphia
and Portland, as well as in dioceses across Europe.

The Church and its insurance companies in the US have paid over USD 2 billion in
damages to the victims of abuse.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/02/19/289830/us-failed-to-pursue-church-pedophilia-un/

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/80106-us-has-failed-to-pursue-the-church-paedophilia-un

Cidersomerset

22nd February 2013, 01:12

Claims that 'former police inspector acted for Jimmy Savile'

THE INDEPENDENT ONLINE,,,,,

Prosecutors and police have already been criticised for missing the chance to bring the disgraced entertainer to court over the allegations before he died

Margaret Davis

Wednesday 20 February 2013

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/Feb201394/v240-savilesescape-pa.jpg

A former inspector has been referred to the police watchdog over claims he "acted
on behalf" of Jimmy Savile by contacting officers before an interview.
The officer, who was from West Yorkshire Police, is accused of contacting Surrey
Police before they questioned Savile over alleged sexual offences in 2009.
Prosecutors and police have already been criticised for missing the chance to bring
the disgraced entertainer to court over the allegations before he died.
West Yorkshire was ordered by the Independent Police Complaints Commission
(IPCC) to refer the officer.

Today the IPCC also said it has asked seven forces including West Yorkshire to
review whether there are more conduct issues that should be referred to the
watchdog over the Savile investigation.The other six forces are Surrey, Sussex,
Thames Valley, Greater Manchester, Lancashire and the Metropolitan police.
IPCC commissioner Rachel Cerfontyne said: "Having had the opportunity to assess
all the information that is available to us I directed West Yorkshire Police to record
and refer the conduct of a former inspector.

"Furthermore I believe that all the forces that may have had intelligence concerning
the late Jimmy Savile should now go back and consider all the relevant information
and materials they possess that may highlight any recordable conduct issues for
the IPCC to assess.

"A number of bodies are already working to address the deep rooted public concern
in this case and have published reports. It is now for the IPCC to assess thoroughly
whether or not there are matters in relation to the conduct of individual officers
that require an IPCC investigation.

"This may be of little comfort to victims of crime but I hope that the IPCC can play
some part in addressing what many see as a catalogue of institutional failings."

This follows a review by the IPCC of reports by Scotland Yard and the NSPCC, the
Crown Prosecution Service and Surrey Police as well as information given by forces
in West Yorkshire and Sussex.

The watchdog also looked at details given by Her Majesty's Inspectorate of
Constabulary, which is preparing a report for the Home Secretary on what the
police knew about Savile.A report published last month found that the chance to
convict Savile for sex offences while he was alive was missed because victims were
not taken seriously enough.

Alison Levitt QC, legal adviser to the director of public prosecutions (DPP), said that
police and prosecutors treated their claims "with a degree of caution which was
neither justified nor required".

Surrey Police received an allegation in May 2007 that Savile had sexually assaulted
a teenage girl at Duncroft Children's Home in the late 1970s.In the investigation
that followed, two more allegations emerged - The first that in about 1973 Savile
had sexually assaulted a girl aged about 14 outside Stoke Mandeville Hospital.

The second was that in the 1970s Savile had suggested to a girl aged about 17,
again at Duncroft, that she perform oral sex on him.

In March 2008, Sussex Police received a complaint that Savile had sexually
assaulted a woman in her early 20s in a caravan in Sussex in about 1970.

Surrey Police consulted with the CPS about all four allegations, and in October 2009
it was decided that no prosecution could be brought because the alleged victims
would not support police action.However, in her review of the decision Ms Levitt
found that prosecutions could have been possible in relation to three victims.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/claims-that-former-police-inspector-acted-for-jimmy-savile-8502976.html

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/80168-claims-that-former-police-inspector-acted-for-jimmy-savile-

norman

22nd February 2013, 01:53

Cidersomerset

22nd February 2013, 19:52

Jimmy Savile Made Mysterious Payments to Children at the Height of His Sex Offending

Friday, 22 February 2013 10:40

Posted by David Icke

http://images.dailyexpress.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/379101_1.jpg

'Previously unseen files obtained by the Daily Express showed the pervert paid
them each £10– equivalent to £72 today – and the BBC reimbursed him.

The payments came to light after the Daily Express submitted a Freedom of
Information Act request to the Corporation demanding the release of his personal
files.

In a letter dated April 18 1974, the BBC’s contracts and finance department wrote
to Savile: “We understand from London that during the above programme (Clunk
Click) you dispersed £10 each to the following young people.”

The names of the children have been blanked out. It continued: “We therefore
enclose our cheque for £30 to reimburse you.”'

Read more ...

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/80292-jimmy-savile-made-mysterious-payments-to-children-at-the-height-of-his-sex-offending

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/379101/Jimmy-Savile-made-mysterious-payments-to-children-at-the-height-of-his-sex-offending

Cidersomerset

22nd February 2013, 19:56

I heard on BBC radio last night that McAlpine has called off the hounds.

I can quite well imagine that he's had advice from legal counsel that his position is not the best one for testing the law of the new media, ( in favour of the guilty ).

Just a stab of a guess, only.

Yeah I heard that, he wants anyone with less than 500 followers to make a modest donation to the BBC's 'Children in need' ....

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THE SUN ONLINE.....

McAlpine won’t sue ‘paedo’ slur tweeters if they have fewer than 500 followers

Slur ... McAlpine was wrongly named as a paedophile

Published: 21st February 2013

LORD McAlpine will not sue Twitter users who wrongly called him a paedophile - but
only if they have fewer than 500 followers, he announced today.

The Tory peer has instead asked that they make a donation to charity.

Lord McAlpine, who has already received six-figure pay-outs from the BBC and ITV,
said he wanted to draw the “unfortunate episode” to a close.

He has now written to several Twitter users asking them to make a voluntary
donation of £25 to the BBC’s Children In Need as soon as possible. But he said he
still intends to take action against Sally Bercow, wife of Commons Speaker John.

He said: "I have dropped all claims against those tweeters with less than 500
followers, in return for a very modest donation to BBC Children In Need, which
funds 2,600 projects supporting disadvantaged children and young people in the
UK.

Tweet ... peer said he still intends to take action against Sally Bercow
He said: "I have requested that my lawyers, RMPI LLP, focus on the action against
Sally Bercow and that damages arising from this are donated to a charity of her
choice.

"I am not intending to make any further comment on this matter."

Lord McAlpine was mistakenly implicated in a paedophile ring in a Newsnight
programme, although he was not named.

But his name was widely mentioned on the internet - including Twitter.

The former Tory politician reached a £185,000 settlement with the BBC after it
broadcast the botched Newsnight investigation, as well as receiving £125,000 from
ITV and Phillip Schofield relating to a This Morning programme broadcast on
November 8.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4806502/Lord-McAlpine-wont-sue-all-tweeters-who-wrongly-named-him-a-paedophile.html#ixzz2LeynLWMG

Cidersomerset

22nd February 2013, 20:13

BBC ON LINE.....

22 February 2013 Last updated at 17:50

.Savile inquiry: Paxman said DJ rumours 'common gossip'

There are some vids on link...

Jeremy Paxman told a BBC inquiry into Newsnight's axed Jimmy Savile
investigation that it was "common gossip" the DJ liked "young" people.

The Newsnight presenter said it was assumed they were girls, but he did not
know "whether it was girls or boys".

But news executive Helen Boaden said she "had never heard any dark rumours".

The BBC has published transcripts from an inquiry that found Newsnight's decision
to drop its probe into sexual abuse by Savile had been "flawed".

About 3,000 pages of emails, interviews and submissions from BBC executives and
journalists have been published online by the corporation.

However, the BBC says it has blacked out about 3% of details for legal reasons.

Since Savile's death in 2011 aged 84, allegations have emerged that lead police to
believe the late Radio 1 DJ and Jim'll Fix It presenter sexually abused hundreds of
children and young people over five decades.

Information which has come to light in the transcripts includes:

Details of comments left on a BBC online tribute page to Savile that were removed
by moderators. A transcript of the interview with ex-BBC director general George
Entwistle includes reference to comments saying: "One of my best friends in 1972
was molested by this creep Savile. He was never the same again. Killed himself in
1985. How's About That Then?"

Meanwhile, a review has been ordered into the way Surrey Police handled historical
child sex investigations, including some involving Savile
Ms Boaden, director of BBC News, told the inquiry there was never any indication
Mr Entwistle knew of Savile's predilections when she discussed Newsnight's
investigation with Mr Entwistle at an awards dinner: "Absolutely not... he just
said: 'Thank you, keep me posted.' I mean he was quite poker faced, really"

Mr Entwistle, on the decision to run a tribute programme about Savile in December
2011, said: " I had not heard any specific rumours about Savile, by that I
mean, 'On such and such an occasion he did such and such a thing.' I don't believe
I had heard any rumours of that kind"
Asked why he felt "lukewarm" about the Savile report, then-Newsnight editor Peter
Rippon said: "It was a combination of a feeling in my stomach that these stories...
can be very difficult to pull off... and doing it so soon after his death was going to
compound that"

Former director general Mark Thompson said in his evidence that "like many other
people who have devoted their lives to this institution, I feel both sad and angry
that such terrible crimes and suffering occurred within the BBC"
BBC Trust chairman Lord Patten told the inquiry: "With the next director general -
or his senior colleagues - I won't begin every conversation on the assumption that
they or she may not be telling me the whole truth, but I will want to be more
convinced that there is a structure in place which ensures that the truth is being
told"During his interview for the Pollard Review, Mr Paxman said: "It was, I would
say, common gossip that Jimmy Savile liked, you know, young - it was always
assumed to be girls.

"I don't know whether it was girls or boys. But I had no evidence of it, and I never
saw anything that made me take it more seriously than it was common gossip."

But, describing why he felt the shelving of the Newsnight investigation had been
wrong, he said: "These people prey upon children in vulnerable situations and when
the children complain they are not believed.

"I thought that we had behaved just like many other authorities and I didn't like it."
'Lessons learned'

Meanwhile, Mr Paxman's fellow Newsnight presenter, Kirsty Wark, said there "was
definitely a communications problem" between Mr Rippon and the journalists
working on the Savile investigation.Acting director general Tim Davie said that by
releasing the transcripts, the BBC was being "open and transparent in its handling
of this unhappy chapter in our history".

But he said details had been removed for reasons of defamation, data privacy,
protection of confidential sources, anonymity for victims of sexual assault, potential
prejudice to or interference with police investigations or ongoing criminal
proceedings, legal professional privilege and confidentiality - where a genuine and
identifiable interest of the BBC is at stake.

He added: "It has not been an entirely comfortable process for us to go through but
it is right that we did it this way.

"It is important that the BBC now moves forward with the lessons learned and
continues to regain the public's trust."

Speaking after the documents' publication, Lord Patten said: "These documents
paint a very unhappy picture, but the BBC needs to be open - more open than
others would be - in confronting the facts that lie behind Nick Pollard's report.

"A limited amount of text has been blacked out for legal reasons, but no-one could
say that the effect has been to sanitise this material, which again puts a spotlight
on some of our failings. We need to acknowledge these shortcomings and learn
from them."

Conservative peer and former party treasurer Lord McAlpine has accused the BBC
of behaving like the "secret service" by using redactions of the inquiry transcripts to
censor criticism of senior executives.The peer was falsely accused of child abuse
after a BBC Newsnight broadcast. He was not named on the programme but was
wrongly identified on social media outlets and by some blogs that incorrectly
speculated about the person's identity.

In a report on that broadcast, BBC Scotland director Ken MacQuarrie found
Newsnight staff had failed to complete "basic journalistic checks".

The Pollard Review was set up by the BBC to decide if there were management
failings over the six-week Savile investigation, which was dropped by Newsnight in
December 2011.The report, headed by former head of Sky News Nick Pollard and
published in December, concluded the decision to shelve the investigation
was "seriously flawed" but "done in good faith".

It dismissed claims it was dropped to protect tribute shows to Savile, and found no
evidence of a cover-up, but was highly critical of BBC bosses in describing "chaos
and confusion" and "leadership in short supply".

The BBC accepted the findings in full and the corporation announced a series of
staff changes after it was published.

Another review led by Dame Janet Smith, looking at the culture and practices of the
BBC during the years in which Savile worked there, is expected next year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21543322

Cidersomerset

24th February 2013, 00:00

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Published on 22 Feb 2013

The BBC publishes 3,000 pages of emails, testimonies and interview
transcripts from the Pollard Inquiry into the reason why Newsnight
pulled its Jimmy Savile investigation.

Cidersomerset

24th February 2013, 00:06

Yesterday 01:22Link to Post #1

jackovesk Avalon Member

List of Child Sex Offenders - Inside the British Government..!!!

As a follow up to my previous post about child molesters in the Government and the blackmail potential...

”http://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/0...lane-massacre/"

The "Pope" played a leading role...
Here is a FOI (Freedom Of Information) request about alleged peadophiles past and present with connections to the Halls of power today.

A Freedom of Information request to Home Office by Derek Canning LLB [HONS] and Francis.P.

A LIST OF CHILD SEX OFFENDERS INSIDE THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT

Tory Party General election candidate, Michael Powell – Convicted and jailed for 3 years for downloading hardcore child porn.

Tory Party Liaison Manager on the London Assembly, Douglas Campbell, who’s job includes running the Tory GLA website.
Arrested for allegedly downloading child porn. He is currently suspended while the Police investigation continues.

Labour Councillor (North Lincolnshire) David Spooner – Convicted and jailed for 1 year for masturbating in front of 2 young boys.

Tory Party Councillor (Folkestone – in Leader, Michael Howard’s constituency), Robert Richdale – 41 year history of crime,
involving 30 convictions and 5 prison sentences. Richdales enormous criminal record, which covers 10 pages of A4 paper,
includes convictions for assault, theft, causing death by dangerous driving, forgery, drugs offences, possession of an
offensive weapon, and sex attacks against underage schoolgirls. The Tory Party election campaign literature described
Richdale as “a family man” who had a “compassionate personality”

Tory Party Councillor (Wickbar/Bristol) Roger Talboys – Convicted and jailed for 6 years for multiple sex attacks on children.

Tory Party Councillor ( Stratford-upon-Avon ) Christopher Pilkington – Convicted of downloading hardcore child porn on his PC.

Labour Councillor (Newton Aycliffe) Martin Locklyn – Convicted and jailed for 15 years for sexually abusing 3 14-year-old boys.

Prominent Labour Party activist Mark Tann (who has met Tony & Cherie at Party functions) recently got a 15-year sentence for
raping a 4-year old girl on 2 separate occasions.

Tory Party MP (Billericay) Harvey Proctor – Stood trial for sex offences of a sado-masochistic nature against teenage boys.

Tory Party Mayor ( North Tyneside ), Chris Morgan – Forced to resign after being arrested twice in 2 weeks, for indecent assault
on a 15-year old girl, and for suspicion of downloading child porn.

Labour Party activist and serial child-molester Mark Trotter, who died from AIDS before he could be convicted.

Labour Councillor (Manchester), George Harding – Charged with indecent assault on a girl of 12.

Tory Party councillor ( Coventry ), Peter Stidworthy – Charged with indecent assault of a 15-year old boy.

Tory Party Councillor (Folkestone – in Leader, Michael Howard’s constituency), Robert Richdale – 41 year history of crime,

Labour Mayor (Westhoughton/Lancashire) Nicholas Green – Convicted and jailed for 10 years for 3 rapes and 13 counts of indecent assault.

Labour Councillor (Manchester), George Harding – Charged with indecent assault on a girl of 12.

William Straw – Son of Labour Foreign Secretary, and former Home Secretary – Jack Straw, was cautioned by Police for drug dealing,
amid a frantic Government attempt to cover up the matter and gag the media as to his identity. Jack Straw also has a brother who
was convicted of a sex attack on a schoolgirl.

Homosexual mass murderer; Dennis Nielsen, who strangled and dismembered 16 young men in the 1980`s, was also a highly active
member of Labour fringe groups such as the Anti-Nazi League, and the SWP. That’s when he wasn’t busy boiling peoples heads in a
pot, or masturbating over the corpses of his victims.

Lib-Dem Council candidate (Tower Hamlets), Justin Sillman – Convicted and jailed for 2 years for sexual abuse of young boys.

Lib-Dem Councillor and Mayoral Candidate ( Sheffield ), Francis Butler - Prosecuted for indecent assault of a young boy.

Lib-Dem Councillor ( Stockport ) Neil Derbyshire – Sexually assaulted a 16-year old boy in a public toilet. He was caught with a
plastic bag containing lubricant, plastic surgical gloves, a condom, and underpants.

Lib-Dem Councillor ( Preston ), Bill Chadwick – Charged with: Making an indecent photograph of a child, Incitement to rape,
Incitement to murder, Incitement to kidnap, and Incitement to torture. Chadwick’s gay lover – Alan Valentine, is also a
Lib-Dem councillor.

High Level Masons such as Chief Superintendent Gordon Angelsea and at least 12 of his colleagues were “let off the hook”
for sexual abuse crimes on children (some of who are now dead) in the North Wales Paedophile Ring Cover-Up.

High Level Government Masons such as Lord McAlpine, ex aid to Margaret Thatcher, was accused by numerous children of
sexual crimes in the North Wales Child Abuse Cover-Ups. He escaped public exposure by a specifically appointed Masonic
Paedophile Judge,Lord Cullen who was appointed to the investigation and “100 year cover up” of Thomas Hamilton’s Mass
Murder spree – were BOTH members of the same “boy’s club”.

Thomas Hamilton was the name of the Mass Murderer responsible for the Dunblane Massacre. He was a Freemason.
Thomas Hamilton was granted a gun licence by his Masonic “brother” Inspector McMurdo, to a amass his arsenal of
weapons, even although he was well known to be of “odd character” with paedophilic tendencies.

The two Liaison Officers assigned to the murder investigation of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman were known to the
British Police hierarchy as Paedophiles at least 3 months prior to the investigation, due to Operation Ore.

According to media reports, the names of 2 former Labour Cabinet Ministers said to be `Household names`
appear on the `Operation Ore ` list of subscribers to hard-core child pornography. The same FBI investigation,
which led to the arrest of rock star Pete Townshend. So who are they Mr Gordon Brown?

BUT I think we can work that one out for ourselves……see post

http://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/0...lane-massacre/

This we are afraid is only the tip of the iceberg. This will be continued…

Waiting for an internal review by Home Office of their handling of this request

www.tpuc.org

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reques...our_children_2

OUR GOVERNMENT HAS PUT 2 GOVERNMENT PAEDOPHILE RINGS UNDER A D-NOTICE FOR 100 YEARS

THE DUNBLANE PAEDOPHILE RING INCLUDING LABOUR LORD GEORGE ROBERTSON

AND

THE NORTH WALES PAEDOPHILE RING INCLUDING TORY LORD MACALPINE …EX THATCHER AID

SO do NOT expect a Tory Government to release the information ,OR even to stop MOLESTING YOUR CHILDREN!!!

PLEASE PEOPLE WE must stop these monsters having the power of LIFE AND DEATH over us and our kids!

Its the 21st Century AD and we can NOW defy the “Laws of gods” ,that do NOT appeal ,BUT we cannot defy the laws of MEN?

If you can believe in MORALITY without god and religion, why NOT society without government ?

FYI

Switzerland has survived with less crime and higher living standards and has completely missed the destruction of
2 World Wars and completely AVOIDED the current illegal wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and the terrorist bombings
that would inevitabley follow (thanks to our government sponcered terrorists) and they managed to do all this
WITHOUT A “DEMOCRATIC” GOVERNMENT.

Officially the Swiss Confederation (Confoederatio Helvetica in Latin, hence its ISO country codes CH and CHE),
is a federal republic consisting of 26 cantons. its Federal state, with parliamentary system and direct democracy .
Direct democracy, classically termed pure democracy,[1] comprises a form of democracy and theory of civics
wherein sovereignty is lodged in the assembly of all citizens who choose to participate. Depending on the
particular system, this assembly might pass executive motions, make laws, elect or dismiss officials, and
conduct trials. Direct democracy stands in contrast to representative democracy, (UK/USA)where sovereignty
is exercised by a subset of the people, usually on the basis of election) FYI “Direct democracy” is a form of ANARCHISM!

THE SWISS HAVE NO STANDING ARMY!!!!!! The Swiss Confederation has a long history of neutrality—it has
not been in a state of war internationally since 1815.The Swiss Armed Forces, including the Land Forces and
the Air Force, are composed of conscripts: professional soldiers constitute only about 5 percent of the military
personnel.The structure of the Swiss militia system stipulates that the soldiers keep their own personal
equipment, including all personal weapons, at home.

THERE IS NOT AN ARMY ON EARTH THAT COULD TAKE SWITZERLAND!!!

IT IS TIME TO FOLLOW THE SWISS EXAMPLE , DISBAND THE PARLIMENTRY DICTATORSHIP
(THE UK AND USA HAVE AN ELECTED DICTATORSHIP …….OR PARLIMENTRY DEMOCRACY AS POLITIONS CALL IT)

This way we can expose paedophiles in government instead of covering for them for a 100 years!!!

AND ITS TIME TO DISBAND OUR STANDING ARMIES (WHICH HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT INVADE OTHER PEOPLES COUNTRIES!!!!!!)

This would stop ” blackmailed ” MP’s using the army to invade other countries that are no threat to us and inflicting untold damage and suffering on the world.

For those who think we NEED governments please offer YOUR KIDS ,for sex and slaughter ,to these monsters!!!!!!

Hopefully it will stop them molesting mine!!

http://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/0...sh-government/

PS - You (Filthy-Rotten-Stinking-Bastards)...

In your Face Reality, obviously this is happening in Govts. all over the world...

Wake Up to the Govt. Satanic/Abuse &

http://www.endoacustica.com/immagini/stop_paed.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56173-List-of-Child-Sex-Offenders-Inside-the-British-Government..---&p=639617&viewfull=1#post639617

Cidersomerset

25th February 2013, 13:02

YAif1S4wgsA

Published on 24 Feb 2013

The Pope is deciding how to deal with allegations of inappropriate
behaviour involving Britain's most senior Roman Catholic cleric, Cardinal Keith O Brien.

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25 February 2013 Last updated at 12:33

Cardinal Keith O'Brien resigns as Archbishop
By Robert Pigott

Religious affairs correspondent, BBC News

Britain's most senior Roman Catholic cleric, Cardinal Keith O'Brien, is stepping
down as leader of the Scottish Catholic Church.

It follows allegations - which he contests - of inappropriate behaviour towards
priests dating from the 1980s.

In a statement, he apologised to those he had offended during his ministry.

The cardinal confirmed he would not take part in the election for a successor to the
Pope - leaving Britain unrepresented in the election.

Cardinal O'Brien said in his statement he had already tendered his resignation as
Archbishop of St Andrews and Edinburgh, due to take effect when he turned 75
next month, but Pope Benedict "has now decided that my resignation will take
effect today".

He said the pontiff would appoint an apostolic administrator to govern the archdiocese in his place until his successor is appointed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21572724

jackovesk

25th February 2013, 15:18

This story, simply just TELLS-YOU...:director:

EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW about the...

SECRECY - ABUSE - COVER-UPS & HOW HIGH UP THIS PEDEOPHILE/SATANIC RING OF ABUSE ACTUALLY GOES...

If you have'nt worked it out yet, your not paying attention...:nono:

THE FIRM

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/imageBank/l/lowresROYAL%20GROUP%20GRAHAM.jpg

Jimmy Savile Quote: "What I chat about with the Queen is a 'NO-GO' area..!"

The BBC obviously told to take the (When Louis Met: Jimmy Savile Interview) off You Tube

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If you missed it, ALL the ANSWERS are right there in front of you on Vimeo..!

When Louis Theroux Met - Jimmy Savile | 2000 | Full Documentary

"It's upsetting to have one's worst fears confirmed"

Documentary-maker who made a film about Savile in 2000 reveals that he was not entirely surprised by new allegations of sexual assault made against the late TV personality

Louis Theroux revealed today that he has not been "completely blindsided" by allegations of sexual abuse made against the late Sir Jimmy Savile in an upcoming ITV documentary.

Now 'Watch-It & Wake-Up'..!!!

http://vimeo.com/52520464
http://vimeo.com/52520464

PS - The British "Royal Family & Class Structure is...

WROTTEN-TO-THE-CORE..!!!

Cidersomerset

25th February 2013, 16:58

Thanks Jack I posted this right at the begining of the the thread, but its been taken down by U'tube as you said
just listening to the first five minutes again is very Chilling !!!Knowing what we know now.

He calls his bed the Alter, theres a lot of coded banter in the first five mins, The firm, Prince charles,Dinner with The Queen.
" sort of yes"....Checking Louis credentials, sending the maffia to sort him out if he was not genuine ? All just inuendo
nonsence Savills was famous for.....Obviously a lot more to it than that !! Certainly worth watching the beginning a few
times on Vimero,if you have not got the stomach to watch it all !!!

Its full of veiled threats and odd comments, really wierd stuff and quite
sick when you look at all the double meanings !! He says he would take
Louis to court if he asked the wrong questions. again one of many
veiled threats and comments !! Saville was a very slippery charector
as you can tell by his continued 'double talk'.This he used to great
advantage thru out his life it seems !

I forget about the zero tollerance bit in his night club,tying up trouble
makers in the boiler room and getting away with it from the Police!!
It explains his 'Godfather' links to the underworld and how he could
still 'FIX' THINGS his CHILLING side !!

Later when Louis confronted saville about it , he said it was a figure
of speech, but it did not sound like that in the original quote...

I watched it all in the end, and you can see how he got away with
it in public, but he must of had help behind the scenes !!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50809-How-Jimmy-was-able-to-Fix-it----&p=568057&viewfull=1#post568057

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These vids are all on here somewhere , but worth looking
at together and shows how he hid in plain sight.......

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Kiforall

25th February 2013, 23:17

Sunday, 20 January 2013

In a further act of self-destruction the BBC astonished parents by broadcasting a children's TV character impersonating disgraced paedophile Jimmy Savile.

This morning's episode of The Tweenies, broadcast on CBeebies at 8.40 am, featured a two minute segment loosely based on Top of the Pops. We now know that following the filming of programmes like Top of the Pops Savile lured impressionable audience members back to his dressing room to abuse.

http://tv-licensing.blogspot.co.uk/

The BBC said: "This morning CBeebies broadcast a repeat of an episode of the Tweenies, originally made in 2001, featuring a character dressed as a DJ impersonating Jimmy Savile. This programme will not be repeated and we are very sorry for any offence caused."

Bothered, bothered are they really bothered.
I have to laugh, you can't make this s**t up.

Cidersomerset

26th February 2013, 12:03

Sexual Allegations by Four Priests

Tuesday, 26 February 2013 12:04

Posted by David Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/Feb201399/swfcardinalkeithobrien.jpg

'Irish-born Scottish Cardinal Keith O’Brien has resigned effective immediately and
will not take part in the papal conclave. His resignation means there will be no
British representative at the conclave.

O’Brien had been accused by four priests of sexual exploitation when they were
much younger, with some of the charges going back 30 years. He had previously
denied the charges. They made an official complaint to the Papal Nuncio in Britain.'

Read more ...

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/80579-cardinal-keith-obrien-resigns-after-sexual-allegations-by-four-priests-

Cidersomerset

27th February 2013, 15:28

The picture Cardinal Keith O'Brien probably wishes he had never posed for: UK's
top Catholic was long-standing friend of Savile

Wednesday, 27 February 2013 09:41
Posted by David Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/Feb2013991/article-2284533-184ca2d7000005dc-656_634x398.jpg

'Britain's most senior Catholic cleric - Cardinal Keith O'Brien - stands alongside his
long-standing friend, Jimmy Savile.

Pictured giving a thumbs-up, he is seen grinning alongside the paedophile at a fund-
raising event in Edinburgh six years ago.

The former leader of Scotland’s Catholics stepped down yesterday amid accuations
of 'inappropriate acts' towards fellow priests. He strongly denies all claims against
him.'

Read more ...
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/80617-the-picture-cardinal-keith-obrien-probably-wishes-he-had-never-posed-for-uks-top-catholic-was-long-standing-friend-of-savile

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Cardinal's resignation 'worst crisis since Reformation'

'The sudden departure of Cardinal Keith O'Brien over allegations of "inappropriate"
behaviour with priests is the worst crisis to hit the Catholic Church in Scotland since
the Reformation, an eminent historian has said.'

Read more ...

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/80617-the-picture-cardinal-keith-obrien-
probably-wishes-he-had-never-posed-for-uks-top-catholic-was-long-standing-friend-
of-savile

Cidersomerset

27th February 2013, 15:46

Leon Brittan Speaks ... Well Just
Wednesday, 27 February 2013 09:46
Posted by David Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/Feb2013991/leon-brittan-vice-chairma-006.jpg

But how can a Home Secretary be handed a dossier on elite paedophilia which was
not acted upon and then mysteriously went missing now claim to have no recollection
of any of this and 'not have any records that would be of assistance'?

This is not going away Mr Brittan so I would have another good think if I were you.

Here you go ... this might help ...

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/Feb2013991/btmcwgbmkkgrhgoh-dejlll0ohbkhgo4czk_35.jpg

Read more ...

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/80618-leon-brittan-speaks--well-just

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The consequences of government and police child abuse cover ups

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/Feb2013991/map.jpg

'This is the Legacy of the cover-up of decades of child abuse by the Police and the
Crown Prosecution Service and the Government. Britain has become a nation where
no child is safe.

Senior positions in the Police, the CPS, the Courts and in Government Departments
have been given to Paedophiles. These powerful Paedophiles have created an avalanche
of child abuse victims.'

Read more ...

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/80618-leon-brittan-speaks--well-just

Cidersomerset

3rd March 2013, 22:24

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BBC ONLINE.....3rd March 2013

Cardinal Keith O'Brien sorry for sexual misconduct

Cardinal Keith O'Brien, the former leader of the Catholic Church in Scotland, has
admitted his sexual conduct has at times "fallen beneath the standards expected of
me". He apologised and asked forgiveness from those he had "offended".
In a statement, he also apologised to the Church and the people of Scotland.
The cardinal resigned last Monday after three priests and a former priest had made
allegations of improper behaviour against him dating back to the 80s.
Cardinal O'Brien was Britain's most senior Roman Catholic cleric until he stood
down as the Archbishop of St Andrews and Edinburgh.

Life in retirement

In announcing his resignation, he also said he would not take part in the election
for a successor to Pope Benedict XVI, known as the conclave.
Sunday's further statement, issued through the Roman Catholic Church in Scotland,
read: "In recent days, certain allegations which have been made against me have
become public. Initially, their anonymous and non-specific nature led me to contest them.

"However, I wish to take this opportunity to admit that there have been times that
my sexual conduct has fallen below the standards expected of me as a priest,
archbishop and cardinal.

"To those I have offended, I apologise and ask forgiveness. To the Catholic Church
and people of Scotland, I also apologise.

"I will now spend the rest of my life in retirement. I will play no further part in the
public life of the Catholic Church in Scotland."

The cardinal - who had initially said he was taking legal advice when the allegations
against him were made public - had been due to retire later this month when he
turned 75.The former priest and three current priests from the diocese of St
Andrews and Edinburgh complained to the Pope's representative to Britain,
Archbishop Antonio Mennini, in early February about what they alleged had been
inappropriate behaviour towards them in the 1980s.

Earlier on Sunday, the ex-priest told the Observer he had been disappointed by
the "cold disapproval" he had faced from the Church for "daring to break ranks".
He also claimed to have gone public only because he feared the matter was in
danger of being swept under the carpet by the church.The BBC's correspondent in
Rome, David Willey, said the news would no doubt affect the mood at the papal
conclave at the Vatican.He added: "The Rome gathering is already overshadowed
by allegations of scandal, intrigue and betrayal among the Vatican hierarchy.

"The credibility of the Roman Catholic Church will be further damaged by Cardinal
O'Brien's confession of inappropriate sexual behaviour."

'Late-night drinking'

Last week, the Observer reported that the former priest had claimed Cardinal
O'Brien had made an inappropriate approach to him in 1980, after night prayers,
when he was a seminarian at St Andrew's College, Drygrange.
A second statement from another complainant said he had been living in a parish
when he was visited by Cardinal O'Brien, and inappropriate contact had taken place
between them.

A third complainant alleged he had faced what he described as "unwanted
behaviour" by the cardinal in the 1980s after some late-night drinking.
The fourth complainant claimed the cardinal had used night prayers as an excuse
for inappropriate contact, the newspaper said.Cardinal O'Brien, who was born in
Ballycastle, Co Antrim, had been the Archbishop of St Andrews and Edinburgh since
1985.He has been an outspoken opponent of plans to legalise same-sex marriage in
Scotland and was named "bigot of the year" by gay rights charity Stonewall last
year.In an interview with BBC Scotland shortly before the allegations against him
were made public, the cardinal said he believed priests should be able to marry and
have children if they wished.

He said it was clear many priests struggled to cope with celibacy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21649475

Cidersomerset

3rd March 2013, 22:33

Paedophile Ring Leader Colin Peters Linked To Barnes Scandal
Sunday, 03 March 2013 15:13
Posted by David Icke

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'Colin Peters, a Foreign Office barrister, was allegedly a regular at the Elm Guest
House in London, where it is claimed children from care homes were trafficked
before being mistreated by well-connected people in the early 1980s.

In 1989, Peters was jailed for being part of a sophisticated network of people who
molested hundreds of children, some as young as 10. Peters' conviction followed a
year-long investigation, named Operation Hedgerow, which recorded 650 offences
against 150 boys. Reports at the time said the ring "was used by highly placed civil
servants and well-known public figures", but police didn't have "the evidence or
manpower to pursue them in court".

The investigation led them to conclude that "we have only scraped the surface of
the paedophile menace in Britain.'

Ain't that the truth.

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The London Paedophile ring

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Madeleine McCann; The Kray Twins; Margaret Hodge

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Police Officers who Aided and Abetted Jimmy Savile to be Questioned

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BBC documentary from early 1980s about the Operation Orchid investigation into the paedophile ring led by Sidney Cooke

What it portrays is commonplace through the world.

The Lost Boys (Operation Orchid BBC documentary, Sidney Cooke etc.)

-MI_Ij0QD3Y

Published on 1 Mar 2013

Two part BBC documentary from early 90s. Operation Orchid investigated the
paedophile ring led by Sidney Cooke, who murdered Jason Swift, Barry Lewis, Mark
Tildesley and many more.

jackovesk

4th March 2013, 00:03

Your doing a 'Great Job' exposing the 'Truth' here Cidersomerset...:thumb:

For the 'Children's Sake' keep this 'Thread' going...:yes4:

Cidersomerset

7th March 2013, 19:01

The Elm House Scandal: 'I Regularly Briefed Jenny Tonge on Child Abuse in Richmond' - Children’s Director

Thursday, 07 March 2013 12:31

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'The anmesia among politicians about the child sexual abuse scandal in Richmond
Council is looking less and less credible by the day.

Now Terry Earland, the former assistant director of children’s services at Richmond,
has told my colleague Mark Conrad that he held regular briefings with Jenny Tonge,
Liberal social services chair and her deputy at the time – now believed to be dead-
about child abuse problems.'

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Jimmy Savile and Yorkshire Police

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'Jimmy Savile was born in the Leeds suburb of Burley and maintained a home in
the city all of his adult life. He first achieved local hard-man notoriety as
DJ/Manager of the Mecca Locarno dance halls in Leeds and Wakefield, which
became a springboard for national fame.

First as presenter on the iconic Top of the Pops show and, later, the equally famous
Jim’ll Fix It BBC programme.'

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Jimmy Savile's favourite Police Force

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Cidersomerset

12th March 2013, 11:38

Jimmy Savile: Police Failed to Join the Dots, HMIC Report Concludes
Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:14
Posted by David Icke

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'Tip offs and complaints against the BBC presenter dating back to 1964 suggested
that he was a serial paedophile who was using his fame to target children.

But the allegations were never pursued or linked, resulting in a systemic failure by
police forces around the country to “join the dots”.

A report published today by Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary that was
commissioned by the Home Secretary Theresa May, found that numerous
opportunities to prosecute Savile and stop the abuse were missed.'

Read more: Jimmy Savile: Police Failed to Join the Dots, HMIC Report Concludes

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/81219-jimmy-savile-police-failed-to-join-the-dots-hmic-report-concludes

Cidersomerset

12th March 2013, 18:00

Thanks Halvorsen for link......This is a interresting case, I feel something is
missing ?But worth a watch especially if you are haveing problems with social
services, he gives some legal advise along the way and the end.

NATO Chief Security Consultant - his daughter snatched by the UK government!!!

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Published on 11 Mar 2013

DOCUMENTS AVAILABLE HERE: http://savingbailie.webnode.nl/blog/

The British government has been child snatching in collusion with Social Services -
in flagrant breach of International Law.

Nigel Cooper, who used to be Chief Consultant for NATO Security, has had his
daughter Bailie stolen - and he's naming the names and tracking the digital
signatures.

Justices Moyland and Hedley have caused the UK government to breach the:

Hague Convention
Lisbon Treaty
Maastricht Convention
Amsterdam Treaty
Paris Accord
London Treaty
Magna Carta

The Judgement can be found here:

brenie

12th March 2013, 20:56

Cidersomerset

12th March 2013, 21:13

Hi Cider, did you notice the good news this week re: Rob Green ?
Not only did he get the legal aid required to pursue action against Elish Angialoni, but it seem ,operation yewtree' is wanting to interview hi re: the Hollie Grieg case.
Is the dam about to burst ?
Hope so.

Regards, Brenie.

That is good news Brenie, but will they go after the 'nest of vipers' ?? we can only hope its not to bury his evidence
in 'legalise' beaurocracy...Have to keep our eyes open on that......Cheers steve

Cidersomerset

13th March 2013, 12:23

1977: The year that Jim Fixed It

Wednesday, 13 March 2013 10:27
Posted by David Icke

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Cidersomerset

13th March 2013, 12:32

Anonymous letter about Jimmy Savile
sent to the police in 1998
Wednesday, 13 March 2013 10:49
Posted by David Icke

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Cidersomerset

13th March 2013, 12:43

THE INDEPENDENT ON LINE.............

Jimmy Savile investigator offers to help round up 1980s paedophile ring

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Mark Williams-Thomas, the child protection expert who exposed Jimmy Savile, has
offered to help catch an alleged establishment paedophile ring that used its
connections to escape justice decades ago.

The former police officer – who researched and presented ITV’s documentary on
the dark side of the BBC star – said that victims reluctant to report the abuse they
experienced at Elm Guest House in London could contact him directly. Mr Williams-
Thomas said he would consider making a documentary about the case if a new
police inquiry, Operation Fernbridge, turned out to be unsuccessful.

He stressed that he had “100 per cent faith” in the inquiry into claims that children
in care were abused at the property in Rocks Lane, Barnes, in the early 1980s by
powerful figures from across public life.But he urged anyone who felt able to report
their experiences to come forward, saying it was crucial for Scotland Yard to collect
more evidence before making any further arrests.He also divulged that he had
already passed evidence to the police about the case, adding that the stories he
was hearing about it were “horrendous”.

In an interview with The Independent, Mr Williams-Thomas said: “If you don’t feel
confident talking to the police, then tell me, because when I tell the police your
information will be acted upon.”

He spoke with approval of the “landslide” in the response to child sexual abuse
which followed the screening last October of Exposure: the Other Side of Jimmy
Savile, which exposed the late TV presenter and disc jockey as an opportunistic
sexual predator.As a result of Operation Yewtree, the inquiry set up by the
Metropolitan Police into Savile’s offending, several of his showbusiness
contemporaries have been arrested for suspected sex offences. And Keir Starmer,
the Director of Public Prosecutions, has recently announced guidelines to ensure the
authorities respond more sympathetically to those who report child sexual abuse.

A previous police investigation of Elm Guest House in the early 1980s was
reportedly closed because of the power of the alleged perpetrators.

Some commentators have expressed frustration that Operation Fernbridge has so
far made only two arrests. Tony McSweeney, a 66-year-old Catholic priest from
Norfolk, and John Stingemore, 70, a former care home worker, from St Leonards-
On-Sea, east Sussex, were held last month. Mr Williams-Thomas said the police
needed to glean as much evidence as they could before making further arrests.

“I have 100 per cent faith in the Metropolitan Police and the guys who are leading
it. They will not stop. They will turn over the stone,” he said.

He said: “What’s really important is to get people who are victims of sexual abuse
to report. I have heard some very sad stories and some amazing stuff that, if true,
is horrendous but the problem is you’re hearing it third or fourth hand.”

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/81257-anonymous-letter-about-jimmy-savile-sent-to-the-police-in-1998

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/jimmy-savile-investigator-offers-to-help-round-up-1980s-paedophile-ring-8531705.html

Cidersomerset

13th March 2013, 13:26

BBC ONLINE.............

11 March 2013 Last updated at 16:48

Artist Graham Ovenden accused of being paedophile

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Graham Ovenden denies the charges

An internationally-acclaimed artist has been described in court as a paedophile who
blindfolded girls and committed indecent acts.

Graham Ovenden, 70 - who has had work hung at the Tate Gallery - is accused of
sexually abusing children in London and Cornwall.

Truro Crown Court heard Mr Ovenden's "target of abuse was young girls."

He denies nine charges of indecency with a child and indecent assault on victims
aged between six and 14.When he was arrested over the alleged abuse of one of t
he girls, Mr Ovenden admitted he had taken photographs of her - a few of them
being "nudies", the court was told.

'Very major reputation'

He denied that they were of a sexual nature, which she had alleged.

Prosecutor Ramsay Quaife told the court: "What we (the Crown Prosecution
Service) say is that Mr Ovenden is a paedophile, and that he is a sexual abuser of
children.

"In this case we say the target of his abuse was young girls. All four of the claimants are now adult women.

"Their allegations go back some years, but at the time they were all girls."

Mr Quaife told the court that during police interviews after his arrest in 2008, Mr
Ovenden described himself as "a distinguished artist".

"He told police he still has a very major reputation as probably having entered
some of the best portraits of children in the last 200 years," Mr Quaife said.

The case continues.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-21745915

Cidersomerset

13th March 2013, 18:25

Savile failings raise concerns over police database
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Channel4News

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Published on 13 Mar 2013

Police ignored allegations of sexual abuse made against
Jimmy Saville as far back as fifty years ago according
to a highly critical report. Home Affairs Correspondent
Simon Israel reports.

Cidersomerset

15th March 2013, 19:31

MAIL ONLINE ..........

'I won't accept being charged': Former MP Sir Cyril Smith 'bullied police
investigating claims he molested young boys'

Secret documents reveal he demanded police hand over names of accusers
Liberal MP should've been prosecuted while alive but police and CPS failed
Transcript reveals he used 1970 election as excuse for 'interference' Smith believed
to have abused children in care and even Commons staff

By Jaya Narain

PUBLISHED:13:36, 14 March 2013| UPDATED:01:39, 15 March 2013

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Scandal: MP Sir Cyril Smith, who died in 2010, tried to interfere with an
investigation into his child abuse in 1970, new documents revealed todayScandal:
MP Sir Cyril Smith, who died in 2010, tried to interfere with an investigation into his
child abuse in 1970, new documents revealed todaySir Cyril Smith tried to bully
police after they launched an investigation into claims he molested young boys,
according to files.The late politician went to a police station in 1970 and demanded
to know why detectives were investigating the claims.Officers later submitted a file
to prosecutors with a covering letter that said: ‘He appears guilty of indecent
assault.’During their meeting Smith tried to find out from officers who his accusers
were and admitted approaching two of the teenagers.An officer then warned him
about interfering with witnesses and accused the politician of ‘fishing’ for
information, according to the records.

Last night an MP claimed the documents – released in a Freedom of Information
request this week – prove that 30st Smith was trying to meddle with the police
investigation.Six weeks after his visit to Rochdale police station detectives passed
the file to prosecutors, describing his conduct as ‘inexcusable’.Their covering note
added: ‘He has used his unique position to indulge in a sordid series of indecent
episodes with young boys to whom he had a special responsibility. He appears
guilty of numerous offences of indecent assault.’

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Attempt: Smith was trying to find out the names of his accusers as he said it would impact on his electioneering in Rochdale

The file, submitted by Lancashire Constabulary, was examined by prosecutors who decided to take no further action against him.

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) has now admitted it should have prosecuted the politician after allegations of abuse in the 1960s.

The decision not to prosecute left Smith free to prey on other vulnerable young children, it later emerged.

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Meddling: ' The former Liberal MP for Rochdale has been accused by the current
one Simon Danczuk, who says it shows how hard Smith tried to influence the police

In 1972 – two years after the case was dropped – he won the Rochdale by-election
for the Liberals and served as MP until 1992. He died aged 82 in 2010.This week it
emerged that Jimmy Savile could also have been stopped from abusing children up
to 50 years ago, but police failed to act on allegations.Documents show that in
January 1970 Smith, then a prominent Liberal councillor, asked to meet detectives
at Rochdale police station to find out the names of his accusers.A transcript of the
conversation between Smith and detectives shows he was determined to challenge
the police for launching an investigation.Smith began the meeting by asking
bluntly: ‘Why are the inquiries going on?’ and ‘Whom did you approach for
statements?’ He also asked what stage the police had reached in their inquiry and
when he would know if he was to be charged.

Simon Danczuk, Labour MP for Rochdale, said the documents prove Smith tried to
bring pressure to bear on the police to drop charges.

Smith was accused of inflicting humiliating punishments on teenage boys in the
1960s and 70s at a hostel he had helped to set up. His victims say he would spank
their naked bottoms and order them to strip for ‘degrading’ medicals despite a
doctor not being present.It emerged that between 1970 and 1998 police tried to
have him charged three times but when his 80-page file was first passed to the
Director of Public Prosecutions it was marked ‘no further action’.

Last year the CPS admitted Smith avoided prosecution only because sex abuse
cases were dealt with differently 40 years ago.

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For decades, damaging rumours swirled around Rochdale MP Sir Cyril Smith - a
political legend locally and nationally.But despite police 40 years ago being
convinced he had indecently assaulted young boys, the 30-stone Liberal never
faced justice.Today a transcript of a conversation her had with police shows how he
tried to 'interfere' with their investigation.

Saturday January 24, 1970 - 11.20am, Rochdale police station

OFFICER:Well, very briefly the allegations concerning that, are that you went along
there and examined these boys by taking their pants down. Whether that's right or
not, I don't know.

CYRIL: I understand that that's the subject of the investigation.

OFFICER: Which, pending on what explanation you put forward, would seem
improper.

OFFICER: If my information is right, you spoke to one of the boys, who has been
interviewed.

CYRIL: Yes.

OFFICER: What was that about?

CYRIL:He told me what you had been asking him. He told me he had made a
statement to you. I've seen two of them and the third came to see me. I've asked
them if they have made statements.

OFFICER: I must warn you about interfering with witnesses. The only reason I am
here this morning is because you wanted to see me. I did not want to see you. You
must have some suspicion about you and them, about what's in the statements or
you would not be here, would you?

CYRIL: Well - er - I'm hesitating, not because I'm frightened, but I've seen a
solicitor obviously, and he says I must make no statement or answer no questions.
If they want to question you on those lines, tell them that you have appointed a
solicitor. It's not that I'm afraid to answer the questions, it's purely because I'm
advised not to do.

OFFICER: What you have come on this morning is just a fishing expedition. You
want to see what we know.

CYRIL:Well, yes, fishing - I think that is fair comment. But one of my problems is -
I don't know if you know about local affairs.

OFFICER: No, I have no connection locally.

CYRIL:Well the situation is this. In three weeks time, I've got to give a decision,
one way or another, whether I'm going to fight the next Parliamentary Election as a
Liberal in Rochdale, and if I'm going to be charged, I'm not going to accept. Guilty
or not guilty, it would be unfair to the party. On the other hand, if I am not going to
be charged I would like to have a do, and I have got to make my mind up in the
next three weeks.

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Cidersomerset

15th March 2013, 19:53

UK Column- Child Stealing By The State; The Bonnie Lewis Case

Friday, 15 March 2013 10:41
Posted by David Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/81326-uk-column-child-stealing-by-the-state-the-bonnie-lewis-case-

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Published on 14 Mar 2013

Brian Gerrish interviews Kevin Edwards who describes the Bonnie Lewis case,
where Social Services kidnapped a 12 year old girl at gunpoint and using a
false passport, while she was receiving medical treatment in the USA.

Cidersomerset

16th March 2013, 09:20

BBC ONLINE..........

16 March 2013 Last updated at 02:13

'Paedophilia not criminal condition' says Durban cardinal Cardinal Wilfrid Napier
took part in the conclave to elect Pope Francis this week Continue reading the main
story

The Catholic Archbishop of Durban, Wilfrid Fox Napier, has described paedophilia as
a psychological "illness, not a criminal condition".The South African cardinal told the
BBC that people who were themselves abused as children and then abused others
needed to be examined by doctors.He was one of 115 cardinals who took part in
the conclave at the Vatican to elect Pope Francis earlier this week.The Church has
recently been dogged by scandals over clerical sex abuse.

Criticism

In an interview with the Stephen Nolan programme on BBC Radio 5 live, Cardinal
Napier referred to paedophilia as "a psychological condition, a disorder".

"What do you do with disorders? You've got to try and put them right.

"If I - as a normal being - choose to break the law, knowing that I'm breaking the
law, then I think I need to be punished." He said he knew at least two priests, who
became paedophiles after themselves being abused as children.

"Now don't tell me that those people are criminally responsible like somebody who
chooses to do something like that. I don't think you can really take the position and
say that person deserves to be punished. He was himself damaged."

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Cardinal Wilfrid Napier's comments triggered immediate criticism.

Barbara Dorries, who as a child was abused by a priest, works for the Survivors
Network of those Abused by Priests, which is based in Chicago. She told the
BBC: "If it is a disease that's fine, but it's also a crime and crimes are punished,
criminals are held accountable for what they did and what they do.

"The bishops and the cardinals have gone to great lengths to cover these crimes to
enable the predators to move on, to not be arrested, to keep the secrets within the
church."

Michael Walsh, who has written a biography of late Pope John Paul II, said Cardinal
Napier's remarks were similar to the position once taken by the Catholic Church in
the UK and the US.

"They did actually at one time believe it was a condition that could be dealt with.
Many bishops were simply moving priests and trying to disguise the fact that they'd
been committing these crimes," Mr Walsh told the BBC.

Marie Collins, who is a victim of abuse, told the BBC: "I think it is appalling that we
have a cardinal, a man at this level in the church that can still hold these views. He
is totally ignoring the child."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21810980

Dominic Harris Saturday 16 March 2013
Paedophiles are psychologically ill, not criminal, says Catholic cardinal Wilfrid Fox Napier

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/faith/paedophiles-are-psychologically-ill-not-criminal-says-catholic-cardinal-wilfrid-fox-napier-8537193.html

Paedophilia is an illness NOT a crime, says cardinal just days after papal conclave

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Paedophilia not criminal: Durban cardinal

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2013/03/16/paedophilia-not-criminal-durban-cardinal

Pedophilia is not a criminal condition, says South African cardinal

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Cidersomerset

16th March 2013, 13:50

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Satanic Child Abuse that never was according to whitehall

Posted by admin On March - 15 - 2013

The Daily Express

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In 1990 stories of widespread Satanic child sacrifice and abuse began spreading in
the newspapers. This abuse was centred around the Orkney’s Nottingham,
Rochdale, Manchester (Jimmy Savile) and London, to name but a few of the
places. However, the government as usual stepped in and labelled the stories as
being a “myth”, meaning that the stories must be true. Course, the fact that a
couple of NSPCC Social workers were taking part in the Satanic rituals, was subject
to a gagging order on that information made the governments claim all the more
credible… Didn’t it Virginia Bottomley.

Nothing changes in Whitehall… ****ing nonces.

Church Minister Named As Orkneys Sex Master

DAILY EXPRESS Wednesday September 4 1991

A CHURCH minister was alleged yesterday to be The Master — the hooded
man who sexually abused young children at Satanic rituals.The Reverend
Morris McKenzie was named at the Orkney child abuse inquiry by Director of
Social Work Paul Lee.The balding, white-haired 63-year-old Church of
Scotland minister sat in the packed public benches showing no emotion as
the claim was made.Three children were said to have told social workers that a
man — referred to by one girl as The Master — would stand in a circle of
dancers using a crook to “hook” sex partners.

Sometimes he was dressed as a turtle.

Other adults and youngsters indulged in sex acts at a quarry lit by car head-
lights while the music Power of the Night was played, it was alleged.
Mr Lee, 44, said he “understood the man to be the parish minister on South
Ronaldsay, the Rev Morris McKenzie”.He later admitted that medical checks
found no sign of sex abuse on the nine children taken from their homes in
dawn raids. But social workers did not consider allowing the youngsters back
home to their parents.

“My understanding is that it is not always the case that sexual abuse is indicated when a medical examination is taking place,” Mr Lee said.

The children’s parents were not told what the e x a m i n a t i o ns had
revealed, he added.The Inquiry has heard how nine children were taken into
care on the strength of statements by three other youngsters.Mr Lee told
solicitor Graham Robertson, the minister’s legal representative, that mention
of a man named Morris had been made by another child, referred to at the
inquiry as QW, In November last year.She had spoken of Morris and of “horsey
games”, appearing agitated as she did so. The children who made the
original allegations were all members of the W family.They were already in
care and Mr Lee agreed they were more sexually aware for their age than
the other children involved.

Mr Lee confirmed that when the nine children were interviewed, they said
other people had been involved in the ritual dance and sex sessions.After
discussing the situation with an RSSPCC official he had denied parents access
when the youngsters were taken into care because he was concerned they
might talk about their alleged experiences.Mr Lee again criticised the media for
its reporting of the affair which, he said, had upset his family.

The inquiry at Kirkwall continues.

The following article is from Tues, March 13th 1990 and the one below that is from Wednesday, October 19th 1990.

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Cidersomerset

16th March 2013, 14:00

Internationally acclaimed artist ‘sexually abused young girls in nighties after blindfolding them’

Saturday, 16 March 2013 11:31
Posted by David Icke

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Operation Pallial: Blinkered By Boundaries (but then that's the idea)

'You would imagine that if there had been one lesson learnt by the police over the
last 5 months since the Jimmy Savile revelations became public, it would be that
they need to look at paedophilia as a wider national problem and tackle it with a
broader holistic approach. In fact, the last official report published by HMIC seemed
to explicitly point out that the fractured perspectives of the regional police
authorities was in part to blame for the failure on the part of the police to identify
Jimmy Savile as a predatory paedophile.'

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Cidersomerset

17th March 2013, 13:26

Savile paedophile 'investigation' Operation Yewtree has been a massive cover up of the royal and political connections and currently the signs are that the Operation Fernbridge 'investigation' into abuse at Elm Guest House will be the sam

Sunday, 17 March 2013 11:48
Posted by David Icke
Connections from the Rocks Lane of yesteryear to the Coalition Cabinet today

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Connections from the Rocks Lane of yesteryear to the Coalition Cabinet today

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DAILY MIRROR ONLINE......
UK News ....Elm Guest House abuse scandal
By Nick Dorman, David Hencke
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VIP child sex ring victims' new pain: Telling cops was worse than the abuse

16 Mar 2013 22:00

"The trauma caused by the police contacting people over events that took place 30
years ago is worse than the event itself," says one victim

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Flats that used to be Elm guest house

Those abused by a child sex ring linked to alleged VIP paedophiles last night
blasted the “inadequate, ill-conceived” support offered since a fresh police probe
began, the Sunday People reports.One said that after re-living harrowing memories
of being molested three decades ago he was simply handed a list of charity phone
numbers to call himself.The man, who we are calling Sam, told Exaro, the
investigative website: “The trauma caused by the police contacting people over
events that took place 30 years ago is worse than the event itself.

“The police did conduct the interview with sensitivity. It is the system that fails. It
is essential that support is put in place immediately after a historical trawl.”

There are calls for Chancellor George Osborne to provide funds in Wednesday’s
budget for victim support services to help people sexually abused as children and
drawn into historic abuse allegations.Sam told detectives six weeks ago how he had
been molested while in a care home at the centre of abuse claims, reported by the
Sunday People, which date back to 1982 but are now being re-investigated.
He said: “The police operation brought back a lot of bad memories that had been
buried for three decades. You cannot sleep, eat or work; cannot think of anything
else; cannot be with people; cannot be alone.

“You are thinking, ‘How is my life going to change? How do I tell my mother?’”

He was spoken to by officers from the Met Police’s Operation Fernbridge – which is
investigating claims of abuse by prominent people against children trafficked from
care homes including Grafton Close, where he was a resident, in Richmond, south-
west London.

Tom Watson MP
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The investigation began after Labour MP Tom Watson used Parliamentary privilege
last October to tell of a paedophile ring linked to top politicians.Meanwhile a second
victim, who asked not to be named, has spoken of the devastating effects of re-
living his ordeal and the lack of support in place.He has told police how he was in
care as a boy at Grafton Close and taken to the nearby Elm guest house – an
alleged paedophile brothel used by public figures – to be sexually abused.
He told Exaro: “I have had to obtain a victim support person myself. He phones me
once a week to see how I am coping.

“My GP has prescribed anti-depressants and sleeping tablets. I have also spoken
about getting a link worker to assist me. I am waiting to hear.”

Sam pointed out that a report 11 years ago by the House of Commons home affairs
committee – which included PM David Cameron – recommended people involved in
historic abuse probes should be offered support services, but this was never
introduced.

A No10 spokesman said: “The Ministry of Justice is providing £10.5million over
three years to provide services to support victims of these heinous crimes.”
A primary school teacher appeared in court yesterday charged with sex offences
against children.The man, 31, who has worked in three schools in York, faces 23
offences including sexual touching and sexual activity with a boy under 13. He was
bailed until May 9 by magistrates in the city.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/vip-child-sex-ring-victims-1768956

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Cidersomerset

17th March 2013, 13:36

Another paedophile dossier goes missing - this time on Jersey

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JUSTICE DENIED
People persecuted for political reasons must be defended.

Wednesday, 13 March 2013Another Paedophile file goes Missing this time on Jersey

Another Paedophile file goes Missing

Jersey child abuse investigation must be re-opened
In her 2008 article for the Daily Mail ‘I have known about Jersey paedophiles for 15
years‘, journalist Eileen Fairweather refers to a list she wrote using information
provided by Detective Constable Peter Cook.

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He had uncovered a vicious child sex ring, with victims in both Britain and the
Channel Islands, and he wanted me to get his information to police abuse
specialists in London. He claimed that his superiors had barred him from alerting
them.He feared a cover-up: many ring members were powerful and wealthy. But I
did not think him paranoid: I specialised in exposing child abuse scandals and
knew, from separate sources, of men apparently linked to this ring. They included
an aristocrat, clerics and a social services chief. Their friends included senior police
officers.Eileen Fairweather met with the National Criminal Intelligence Squad
(NCIS), who had the job of disseminating intelligence on paedophiles across the country.

My diary records that I met NCIS on January 4, 1996, at 10.30am, and I also
channelled the intelligence to Scotland Yard. The information provided links the
Islington paedophile network with known paedophiles in Jersey and Guernsey. The
list should be used alongside the information obtained from Peter Righton’s diaries,
which is already being investigated by Operation Fernbridge.
The NCIS and Scotland Yard have this list, yet it never led to a police investigation.

Time after time we find it is the Police who prevent investigation into Paedophiles.
Eileen Fairweather an award winning journalist presented the police with well
researched evidence exposing a massive paedophile ring. What happened the
police buried it! Just like they have tried to bury anyone who might expose the
Ring.

http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/another-paedophile-file-goes-missing.html

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/81485-savile-paedophile-investigation-operation-yewtree-has-been-a-massive-cover-up-of-the-royal-and-political-connections-and-currently-the-signs-are-that-the-operation-fernbridge-investigation-into-abuse-at-elm-guest-house-will-be-the-same

Cidersomerset

20th March 2013, 22:45

BBC ONLINE..........

20 March 2013 Last updated at 21:22

Jim Davidson arrested over new sexual offences claims Comedian Jim Davidson
presented the Generation Game and Big Break on BBC TV Continue reading the
Comedian Jim Davidson has been questioned about new allegations of sexual
offences as part of a probe related to the Jimmy Savile inquiry.

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The 59-year-old was answering bail on Wednesday at a London police station when
he was "further arrested on suspicion of sexual offences", said Scotland Yard.
His solicitor Henri Brandman says he "vigorously denies" the allegations.
He was initially arrested in January by detectives from Operation Yewtree.
The investigation was set up in the wake of sexual abuse allegations made against
Savile.

'All adults'

Mr Brandman said that "several women" had made allegations against Mr Davidson
dating back about 20 years, and in one case dating back 35 years.He added: "The
complainants were all adults at the time of the alleged events. Jim vigorously
denies the allegations.
"He answered police questions as fully as he is able after this passage of time.

"He has not been charged with any offences."

After his second arrest, Mr Davidson was released again on bail until May.
Another man - also arrested in January on suspicion of sexual offences - was also
re-bailed until May. Scotland Yard has so far arrested 11 people under Operation
Yewtree, its inquiry into historical allegations of sexual abuse linked to the
entertainment industry.The investigation was launched in the wake of revelations
that ex-TV presenter and Radio 1 DJ Jimmy Savile subjected hundreds of young
people and children to sexual abuse over four decades.

The operation has three strands. One is looking specifically at the actions of Savile
and the second strand concerns allegations against "Savile and others".

The third strand relates to alleged complaints against other people unconnected to
the Savile investigation. Mr Davidson's arrest comes under this category.
Last week Dave Lee Travis, the ex-Radio 1 DJ and Top of the Pops presenter, was
questioned for a second time after further allegations were made to Operation
Yewtree detectives.Mr Travis, of Mentmore, Bucks, was arrested on 11 March after
answering bail following his first arrest in November 2012. He has denied any
wrongdoing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21869330

Cidersomerset

20th March 2013, 22:53

THE TELEGRAPH ONLINE...

Police hid files on celebrity suspects

Hundreds of police files on celebrities and politicians accused of sex assault were so
heavily protected that even officers investigating claims could not access them.
Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary reviewed the way in which police forces
share information in the wake of the Jimmy Savile scandal Photo: PA
By Hayley Dixon....7:56AM GMT 20 Mar 2013

Information on high profile suspects was marked as “secret” or “restricted” and
effectively hidden so that it was only available to a small number of officers - a
system which may have helped prolific offenders like Jimmy Savile escape
prosecution. The approach to sensitive files was designed to stop officers from
leaking information to the media for money, according to The Times. It is also
believed that the system may have allowed MP Cyril Smith to escape justice for
decades. Since the allegations against Savile have been made public there has
been a flood of victims who have found the courage to report abuse, many accusing
household names. Investigations into historical abuse are now being opened across
the country, leading to a number of arrests with more expected.

The issue of detectives being unable to access relevant intelligence was highlighted
in a report on the effectiveness of the Police National Database (PND) in the wake
of the Savile scandal. It came after complaints about Savile made to different police
forces across the country while the TV presenter was still alive were not shared by
detectives. Metropolitan Police Commander Peter Spindler confirmed that famous
people were protected by high levels of confidentiality built into intelligence
systems. He said: "Any high-profile or sensitive case will be restricted on our
systems because we are not going to let 50,000 people (Met officers and staff)
across London read sensitive material about celebrities, politicians or other high-
profile people.

"We have had some officers and staff who were prepared to leak information to the
media for payment and the mechanism to prevent that was to restrict access to
that information." But police believe their new PND, launched in 2011, will help
prevent similar errors in the future. The system allows sensitive material to be
located but accessed only with the right clearance. But the system is already
struggling to cope with all of the records. Speaking after the report was published
last week, Chief Constable Mike Barton, the Association of Chief Police Officer's lead
on intelligence, said the current system is capable of being interrogated by any
trained officer across the UK to "identify suspects, offenders and patterns of
behaviour". The National Association of People Abused in Childhood said that police
had put the protection of celebrities before children. but spokesman John Bird
added that he believes police are striving to "get it right in future".

The first national shared database for police in England and Wales was set up in
2003, while a later system in 2006 allowed officers to search for intelligence but
restricted access to sensitive records. In the case of Savile the review by HM
Inspectorate of Constabulary found that valuable intelligence was recorded in 1964,
1998 and 2003 but other forces has no idea that it existed. Some was shared with
the Jim'll Fix It star’s local force, the West Yorkshire Police, but it did not
investigate the allegations. Surrey Police conducted a national search on Savile in
2007 and found nothing, and when the Met's Operation Yewtree began
investigating his offending last year it was intially unable to find Scotland Yard's
records on him.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9942027/Police-hid-files-on-celebrity-suspects.html

Cidersomerset

24th March 2013, 22:57

Police re-open child sex abuse investigation at Kincora boys home in Belfast

Sunday, 24 March 2013 11:09

Posted by David Icke

The investigation involves the abuse of boys for two decades at the home in
Northern Ireland which has been connected to establishment figures.

As I keep saying, the 'Establishment' = paedophiles and Satanists wherever you
look.

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Pity former Prime Minister Edward Heath, MI6 chief Maurice Oldfield and Lord
Mountbatten aren't still around, but a long list of Establishment figures in Northern
Ireland still are.

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THE BRITISH ESTABLISHMENT ... PAEDOPHILES EVERYWHERE

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Cidersomerset

25th March 2013, 15:28

Savile: The Jaconelli Ring and Rampton
Monday, 25 March 2013 13:02
Posted by David Icke

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'Following on from the Express article by James Murray and Mark Branagan which
alleged that Savile was investigated by North Yorkshire Police as being part of a
paedophile ring in 2003, that allegedly involved two prominent businessmen in
Scarborough, Mayor Peter Jaconelli and Arcade Boss Jimmy Corrigan.

I have previously identified that Jaconelli and Corrigan visited the BBC at Savile’s
request.I am now able to confirm the connection of Jaconelli, Savile and Corrigan to
Rampton Secure Mental Hospital in Nottinghamshire.'

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Child Abuse; Earl's School; Kincora; Spooks

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'£39,000-a-year Earls School in Hampshire which specialises in teaching pupils with
learning difficulties. Stanbridge Earls School is an independent boarding school
where UK Ministry of Defence families send their children. It is at the centre of a
child sex abuse investigation, the Sunday People has revealed.'

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Savile and the Children's Hospital - Jersey 1969

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Published on 17 Nov 2012

A TV tribute from the Channel Islands Broadcasting honouring the life of Savile, a
man who might well turn out to have been the most prolific sexual abuser of
childen in modern times.The commentary is laudatory and full of praise for Savile
and his visits to the sick childrens wards in the Channel Islands hospital. The nurses
were not forgotten too. One of the nurses recalls when she as organiser of a social
evening for the night nurses at one of the hospitals she went to great pains to
guarantee Savile's presence.

It now appears that Savile's visits to the hospitals on the island took place mainly
at night.Neither the senior nurse gives no clue to the viewer as to the true nature
of Savile's nocturnal visits to the sick children in their care. Perhaps she didn't know
what Savile was up to. Mark Williams Thomas the excop detective investigative
journalist BBC child specialist broadcaster 'Maddie McCann is Missing' supporter
and 'not found guilty blackmailer freelance reporter' of a funeral director might well
be right in his opinion about Savile.

Savile really was a very, very clever man who had them all fooled yet again. Just
bet that senior nurse feels a right fool now.

Footnote: Check out the stills. The date on the float says 1989 but as the date is
shown the narrator insists this was filmed in 1969.

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http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/81879-savile-the-jaconelli-ring-and-rampton

Cidersomerset

27th March 2013, 16:09

The Metropolitan Police 'Investigations' Into Political Paedophilia Have Gone Very
Quiet - And This Man Will Not Be At All Surprised

Wednesday, 27 March 2013 11:56
Posted by David Icke

Paedophile MP cover-up claim: Top police officer removed from sex abuse
investigation after naming politicians as suspects

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'Tasked with flushing out paedophiles preying on vulnerable youngsters at
children’s homes, Detective Chief Inspector Clive Driscoll relished the challenge.

But the officer suddenly found himself booted off the case and put on a disciplinary
after revealing politicians were named among the suspects. At least one of the
figures is understood to have been an MP.'

And former Labour councillor Anna Tapsell claims she was visited by a police chief
to “warn her off” after she raised concerns that detectives would not properly
investigate allegations of paedophile activity in care homes.Mr Driscoll launched his
probe into child sex abuse claims in the South London borough of Lambeth in 1998.
But he claims Scotland Yard began meddling as soon as the politicians were named.
The officer, now spearheading the fresh investigation into teenager Stephen
Lawrence’s murder, said: “I was unhappy with the interference of some senior
officers who did not appear to have a logical connection to my investigation into
child sex abuse in Lambeth.

“There were allegations made by several people that named politicians had been
involved but I never had a chance to investigate them because I was moved before
I could do so.”

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Operation Ore was it a distraction used to protect VIP Paedophiles

'Operation Ore 2002 allegedly exposed thousands and thousands paedophiles by
tracing their credit card details which were allegedly used to access child porn
websites. But what was Operation Ore really.? How many of those credit card
details had been stolen? How many used only to access adult porn?

Ministers, MPs and judges were under investigation by Operation Ore. But none
of these VIP's were arrested or charged.'

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http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/81949-the-metropolitan-police-investigations-into-political-paedophilia-have-gone-very-quiet-and-this-man-will-not-be-at-all-surprised

Gardener

27th March 2013, 18:25

What is it going to take when the fox is guarding the chicken run, lost files, people taken off cases, isn't that a pretty obvious cover up, well yea anyone with 2 neurons firing can see that. But they get away with it, and to be honest right now I don't see a way through this wall of silence.

Sigh!

afterthought......
Hey Mr Top Policemen taken off case.....Call Brian Gerish with evidence, become a whistleblower and do all these kids a huge favour.

Gardener

27th March 2013, 18:37

IN fact Mr Top Policemen, contact this guy

Mark Williams-Thomas, the child protection expert who exposed Jimmy Savile, has
offered to help catch an alleged establishment paedophile ring that used its
connections to escape justice decades ago.

jackovesk

29th March 2013, 02:29

March 28, 2013

http://cyclingwithamission.weebly.com/uploads/7/6/8/8/7688208/9299361.png?1308739652 #paedobritain Is Trending on Twitter

Keep up the good work everyone.

If people aren’t made aware of the scale of institutionalised child abuse and the cover-ups to hide those that protect abusers it will never be stopped.

Keep tweeting!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2erdAgGeahs&feature=player_embedded
http://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/2013/03/28/paedobritain-is-trending-on-twitter/

norman

29th March 2013, 03:59

Destroying 'National' identities is becoming very topical these days, isn't it ?

Funny that (?)

Taurean

29th March 2013, 07:37

Arch Paedophile Jimmy Savile was Israel supporter and devout Zionist

(His relationship with the Pope and the Catholic church is well-known, but here’s another new red flag- more Jimmy Savile ‘charity work’ here, this time in the Jewish community, but why? Who were his pals here?) Gilad Atzmon’s Blog … Jimmy Savile a ‘predatory sex offender’, found many friends amongst Zionists and Israeli leaders. Just a year ago, the UK Jewish Chronicle saw him as a dear friend of the Jewish people and their State. Interestingly enough, JC’s Jessica Elgot who wrote the following piece prefers Zionist paedophile Savile over truth tellers such as prof’ John Mersheimer or myself…

http://21stcenturywire.com/2012/10/28/arch-paedophile-jimmy-savile-was-a-devout-zionist-and-an-israel-supporter/

I mean, just look at these fawning British Government Zionist sycophants -

http://www2.cfoi.co.uk/

http://ldfi.org.uk/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Friends_of_Israel

jackovesk

29th March 2013, 16:42

Prominent Australian entertainer arrested in relation to Jimmy Savile child sex investigation

March 29, 2013

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BBC presenter Sir Jimmy Savile. Source: AP

A PROMINENT Australian entertainer has been arrested by Scotland Yard detectives in London on suspicion of sexual offences.

The high-profile 82-year-old Australian man from Berkshire in south east England was interviewed for several hours by police before being released on bail about 11.30pm local time.

It is understood his lawyer was present.

The man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, is the 11th suspect but the biggest star so far arrested by officers from Operation Yewtree set up last year to probe hundreds of claims of sexual assault and paedophilia against British entertainer Jimmy Savile.

Police yesterday confirmed the arrest was not directly linked to Savile, who died aged 84 in 2011, but one of two other Yewtree offshoots related to alleged sexual misconduct by other high profile stars.

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said the man had been bailed, pending further inquiries, to appear before police again in May.

“In a general sense I can say we are only likely to confirm something like that after it takes place,” he said, adding security of witnesses was paramount.

Legal sources have said the allegations included contemporary claims related to the 1980s and 1990s. Most of the claims being probed by Yewtree relate to the 1960s and 1970s.

The entertainer was first interviewed “under caution” by British police on November 29 following a search of his home, about an hour west of London. It is understood they have since been trying to identify potential victims.

The man’s London-based agent could not be contacted yesterday.

His manager and brother also refused to talk about the arrest.

Asked if he had anything to say on his younger brother's behalf, the man said: "No I haven't, thank you.''

Late last year a friend of the Australian married father said his mate was “almost suicidal” over his being interviewed by police for alleged sexual offences which he described as being a slur and based only on guilt by association since he knew Savile, who has since been branded one of Britain’s worst serial child sexual abusers with up to 450 victims as young as nine years old over a five decade period.

Others arrested by Yewtreee include former pop star Gary Glitter, high profile comedians Freddie Starr and Jim Davidson, PR guru to the stars Max Clifford, former It’s a Knock Out Star Stuart Hall and DJ Dave Lee Travis.

They have all denied any wrongdoing, except for Glitter, who has not made a statement.

Police this week told BBC producer Wilfrid De’ath he was no longer facing charges after a woman who initially claimed he groped her withdrew her complaint. He is the only suspect where the Crown Prosecution Service has made a decision on.

Yesterday the media in the UK which has followed the case of the Australian closely were also not naming the star but were camped outside his riverfront home seeking a comment.

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2013/03/29/1226609/213058-operation-yewtree.jpg

http://www.news.com.au/world-news/prominent-australian-entertainer-arrested-in-relation-to-jimmy-savile-child-sex-investigation/story-fndir2ev-1226608965017

PS - Surely not, it couldn't be could it...:faint:

Rolf Harris, AO, CBE (born 30 March 1930) is an Australian entertainer..???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0mu2Qhr6S0

If true, that song really gives me the 'Creeps' now...:scared:

Kiforall

29th March 2013, 20:03

Cidersomerset

29th March 2013, 21:02

Another 'Elite' Paedophile Cover Up By Disgusting London Police Chiefs
Thursday, 28 March 2013 11:25

Eleven men are arrested by Savile 'inquiry' [yeah, right] detectives ... but just
THREE will be charged in £1million operation criticised by some as 'a celebrity witch-
hunt'They have publicly arrested B and C-list 'celebrities', most of whom it seems
they are letting go anyway, but it gave the illusion of 'action' after the Savile
scandal broke which was the point of the whole diversion.Not a titter about Savile's
fundamentally close relationship with the royal family over decades after being
introduced to them by paedophile Lord Mountbatten in the 1960s or his equally
close connections to Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and her Cabinet and inner
circle throughout the 1980s.

D.Icke.....Read more...

Cover Up, Cover Up, Cover Up.

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'Only three of the 11 men arrested over suspected sex offences in the aftermath of
the Jimmy Savile scandal are likely to be charged, it emerged last night.Detectives
believe there will be insufficient evidence to prosecute the majority of the suspects
quizzed under Operation Yewtree.Former BBC producer Wilfred De’Ath, 75, who
was arrested over an alleged sex assault in 1965, was released without charge on
Monday evening.'

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Eleven men have been arrested over suspected sex offences in the aftermath of the
Jimmy Savile scandal. Former BBC producer Wilfred De'Ath, right, was released
without charge on Monday night And speculation was mounting last night that
Freddie Starr would soon be told that he, too, will not be charged over claims he
attempted to grope a 14-year-old in Savile’s BBC changing room in 1974.

The police operation – which is thought to have cost £1million and has 30 dedicated
detectives – has already been criticised by some as a ‘celebrity witch-hunt’.

More...
I hate myself for not stopping him. But 50 years on, I'm the victim of a witch-hunt
Earlier this month, one of Britain’s top prosecution lawyers was accused of hyping
up the investigation as if it were a ‘box office event’ when he told the public to
expect a dramatic new wave of celebrity arrests.If, as seems likely, only a handful
of men are charged, there are sure to be uncomfortable questions for the police
over the handling of the probe.Yard chiefs insist all arrests by detectives on
Yewtree have been ‘necessary and proportionate’. But Mr De’Ath, who spent four
months on bail before being cleared, accused officers of being ‘over-zealous’.

He said the police had failed ‘lamentably’ to stop Savile’s reign of terror while he
was still alive – so were now going ‘too far the other way’ in pursuing ‘spurious’
claims against others.Only three of those arrested under Operation Yewtree - the
Savile inquiry - are likely to be charged Only three of those arrested under
Operation Yewtree - the Savile inquiry - are likely to be charged

‘My general comment would be that Operation Yewtree has gone too far,’ he told
BBC Radio 4’s Today programme. ‘It is getting silly now.’

Other celebrities arrested by the Yewtree squad include the comedian Jim
Davidson, PR guru Max Clifford and disgraced pop star Gary Glitter, all of whom
deny any wrongdoing.Another celebrity – a man in his 80s who has not been
named publicly – was interviewed under caution over sex allegations in November.
Davidson, 59, was detained over historic sex allegations – not involving children –
shortly before he was due to appear on Celebrity Big Brother in January and
rearrested last week over new allegations dating back to 1978.

His second arrest came a week after DJ Dave Lee Travis, 67, was rearrested over
sex allegations involving adults. He too denies wrongdoing.At his £1million home in
Stockbridge, Hampshire, Mr Davidson said yesterday: ‘The pendulum has now
swung right to the other end; from doing nothing with Savile to this.’

He added: ‘The allegations against me are to do with adults and go back over 35
years, one is from 1978. And the only thing I remember from back then is Abba!
PR guru Max Clifford, left, and comedian Jim Davidson, right, are among those
arrested in the Operation PR guru Max Clifford, left, and comedian Jim Davidson,
right, are among those arrested in the Operation

PR guru Max Clifford, left, and comedian Jim Davidson, right, are among those
arrested in the OperationDisgraced pop star Gary Glitter, left, was also arrested and
DJ Dave Lee Travis, right, was arrested over sex allegations involving adults

DJ Dave Lee Travis

Gary Glitter, left, was also arrested and DJ Dave Lee Travis, right, was arrested
over allegations involving adults‘It costs nothing to tell the truth and all I can do is
tell the truth. It costs to tell lies. If an allegation is made, the police have to look
into it whatever the cost.‘I just hope they look into my evidence with as much
vigour and skill and I trust that they will.’ Freddie Starr, 70, who was arrested in
November, weeks after the Savile scandal erupted, has also complained about his
treatment.

He was taken into custody near his home in Warwickshire and questioned over
claims he tried to grope a woman called Karin Ward when she was 14.

Ward, who waived her right to anonymity, claimed Starr had had a ‘very bad attack
of wondering hands’ with her nearly 40 years ago. He vehemently denied her
claims.It prompted Starr to seek an injunction to prevent the claims being aired,
but his High Court application was rejected.He initially denied ever meeting his
accuser, or appearing with her on Savile’s 1974 BBC show Clunk Click, but footage
later emerged of him and Miss Ward in the same shot.

Karin Ward,right, accused Freddie Starr, left, of a 'very bad attack of wondering
hands' with her 40 years ago Karin Ward,right, accused Freddie Starr, left, of
a 'very bad attack of wondering hands' with her 40 years ago Karin Ward, right,
accused Freddie Starr, left, of a 'very bad attack of wondering hands' with her 40 y
ears ago

Starr initially denied ever meeting Ward

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Starr initially denied ever meeting Ward or appearing with her on Savile's 1974
show Clunk Click but footage later emerged them together in the same shot,
pictured The comedian claims he has lost £1million in earnings from cancelled
shows. After police raided his home and seized a computer hard-drive, address
books, photographs and his iPhone, Starr said: ‘It’s horrible. I’m being made to feel
like a criminal.

‘I’ve never ever been in trouble before and I haven’t got a police record.

‘It’s heartbreaking and it’s affecting my health and everything. It’s unbelievable.
I’m absolutely drained.’

A friend of Miss Ward told the Mail she had not expected Starr to be arrested, let
alone charged, over the alleged incident.The friend said: ‘Karin has always known
there was a chance Starr would not be charged because it would probably come
down to her word against his.

‘If she was the only witness, then a prosecution was always less likely to go
ahead.’

Earlier this month, Nazir Afzal, chief crown prosecutor in the North West, said
detectives will soon arrest a number of ‘very high profile’ figures suspected of child
sex abuse.He described child-sex abuse investigations as a ‘growing industry’.
Critics said Mr Afzal should not hype up any impending arrests like a ‘box office
event’.A number of defence lawyers believe there should now be a new debate over
whether those suspected of sex offences, particularly those allegedly involving
children, should be named before they are convicted

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2299621/Jimmy-Savile-inquiry-Eleven-men-arrested-detectives--just-THREE-charged-1million-operation-criticised-celebrity-witch-hunt.html#ixzz2OxskLGGX
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learninglight

30th March 2013, 17:33

FYI

Jack Straw CAUGHT Lying about Children in Care

This video is shocking, i did'nt know this had happened THAT IS NOW MAKES IT ILLEGAL FOR CHILDREN IN CARE TO SPEAK OUT!!!

7ktZl2AW7HA

sharon

Cidersomerset

30th March 2013, 19:55

Thanks Learninglight I can understand Jack Straw being 'cagey' but for someone
involved in this legislation. There is no way he would of forgot if Children were able
to speak out in care or not about mistreatment !!

witchy1

1st April 2013, 08:28

I found this interesting article from a Belgian MP about what was going on there and the "pink ballets"

"It was Christianity that brought a fundamentally different view of humanity.
A human being no longer belonged to his master but to God.
Our society is gradually becoming a post-Christian society in which there is a return to the pre-Christian vision of man.
The process is underway but has not yet fully completed itself."
_____________________________________

"The Crazy Brabant Killers got their name because, at the time, nobody had a clue as to what their motives could be. The gang specialised in robbing supermarkets in broad daylight. The booty was always very poor, but that did not seem to bother them. The reason why the committed their crimes, apparently, was the thrill they got from slaughtering every supermarket shopper in sight. The shot everyone, children included, sometimes killing up to eight innocent shoppers or passers-by in one go. It started with the mu9rder of twelve people at various occasions in late 1982 and early 1983. Then the wave of terror subsided, only to be followed by a new wave in the Fall of 1985, resulting in the death of 17 victims. Then it stopped.

The investigation into the Crazy Brabant Killers got nowhere. Strange things happened. Officers who were making progress in the case were taken off it, and substantial evidence disappeared from the files never to be found again.

Today, almost twelve years later, the key to the mystery seems to have been found. A scrutiny of the gang’s victims could be linked to the “Pink Ballets.” The apparently random killings of the Crazy Brabant Killers had been a cover-up for eliminating dangerous witnesses of sex parties (probably with minors-orgies among consenting adults are not illegal under Belgian law)(.

This discovery has prompted the authorities to investigate the whole dossier again, but whether this will lead anywhere is doubtful, because many sensitive documents have been lost.

“There used to be a photo in the judicial files of an army general, stark naked, during one of the Pink Ballets,” one investigator told the parliamentary committee last February. “I know because I have seen the picture. But now it is gone. We cannot find it anywhere.”
Tapes, too, and typed-out manuscripts of police interviews have gone missing, as well as a list of people who had allegedly attended sessions of the Pink Ballets."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1135141/posts

learninglight

1st April 2013, 09:17

Revealed: Suicide-row DJ Liz Kershaw was mystery broadcaster who sparked new Commons probe into Savile Newsnight fiasco

Controversial BBC radio DJ Liz Kershaw was last night revealed as the mystery broadcaster who has triggered a new Commons inquiry into the shelving of Newsnight’s Jimmy Savile sex abuse investigation.
Former director-general Mark Thompson and the Corporation’s most senior woman executive, Helen Boaden, face being summoned to the Commons Culture Media and Sport Select Committee after Ms Kershaw demanded action.
Her protest centres on a dispute between Thompson and Boaden over whether she told him about Savile a year before the scandal.
In her letter, leaked to The Mail on Sunday, Ms Kershaw said it was ‘totally unacceptable’ that the BBC’s investigation ignored a claim by Ms Boaden that she had told Mr Thompson that Savile had been investigated – yet ‘accepted without question’ Mr Thompson’s claim he was not informed.
Ms Kershaw said the report by the man who led the £2 million BBC inquiry, former Sky News chief Nick Pollard, made it look as though Ms Boaden ‘has invented her evidence’ and ‘undermined her as a senior BBC executive’.
Committee chairman John Whittingdale has asked Ms Boaden, who is moving from head of news to director of radio, and Mr Thompson to clear up the matter and is ready to summon both.
Last November, Ms Kershaw was named as the woman alleged to have made threatening phone calls to a male colleague, Russell Joslin, 50, who committed suicide.
In her letter, Ms Kershaw said Mr Pollard had confirmed that Ms Boaden’s lawyer told him that Ms Boaden told Mr Thompson in December 2011 that Newsnight had investigated Savile over alleged abuse.

She wrote: ‘Mr Pollard disregarded it completely. Instead, he has accepted without question Mr Thompson’s story to have known nothing about the Newsnight investigation, leaving Helen Boaden looking as though she has invented her evidence. This is totally unacceptable.’
Ms Kershaw links her claims to wider allegations about the way women are treated at the BBC.
‘Not only does it undermine Helen Boaden’s position as a senior BBC executive, but at this particularly sensitive time for the BBC suggests that other women who want to speak out may be ignored,’ she wrote.

Link and pictires here : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2301817/Revealed-Suicide-row-DJ-Liz-Kershaw-mystery-broadcaster-sparked-new-Commons-probe-Savile-Newsnight-fiasco.html

sharon

Cidersomerset

4th April 2013, 12:52

World-renowned (by some) artist is found guilty of child abuse
Thursday, 04 April 2013 10:43
Posted by David Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/April20131/graham-ovenden-009.jpg

'An internationally renowned artist from Cornwall has been found guilty of a string of sex offences against children.

Graham Ovenden, who studied under the so-called "Godfather of Pop-Art" Sir Peter Blake, was not in court to see
the jury forewoman return the verdicts, having been taken ill.'

Read more ...

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/82364-world-renowned-by-some-artist-is-found-guilty-of-child-abuse

http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/1973_Graham-Ovenden_11-Version-2.jpg

Cidersomerset

4th April 2013, 12:56

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New attitudes have made yesterday's hip romanticism look deeply worrying and
bizarre says the Guardian's art critic

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Jonathan Jones

The Guardian, Tuesday 2 April 2013 20.22 BST

Graham Ovenden artist court case
Graham Ovenden: his pictures reject the forward-looking art movements of the
1960s in favour of an ironic Victorianism. Photograph: Ryan Hooper/PA

Tastes change. In art as in clothes, the cool new thing of today may look repellent
and absurd in the future. The art of Graham Ovenden is an extreme case in which
new attitudes have made yesterday's hip romanticism look deeply worrying and
bizarre.In the early 1970s, when Ovenden made pictures such as Little Lorraine, a
black and white nude portrait of a child, or his psychedelically coloured images of
Alice in Wonderland – to mention some of his 34 works in the Tate collection – the
Rolling Stones were recording Exile on Main Street, Syd Barrett was unreeling his
mind in Cambridge and Stanley Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange was scaring the
suburbs. It was a time of self-conscious decadence, as hippiedom turned inward.

Ovenden's art might have been invented for an early Ian McEwan story of soured
libertarianism set in these years. His pictures reject the forward-looking art
movements of the 1960s in favour of an ironic Victorianism; they recreate the look
of pre-Raphaelite photography which in turn licenses – if you accept their retro
logic – some frank child nudity.

In high Victorian times Charles Dodgson, author of the Alice books under his pen
name Lewis Carroll, took photographs of little girls that are arguably as sexually
troubling as those staged by Ovenden. The pre-Raphaelite photographer Julia
Margaret Cameron also took bold pictures of young models. Ovenden is an expert
on these photographers – his books on early photography include his 1973 work,
Victorian Erotic Photography.

It was not just the decadent atmosphere of the 1970s that engendered his serious
artistic reputation. He made an intelligent appeal to some big art critical ideas.
This was a confused and confusing moment in the history of art. Modernism was
dying. The last extremes of abstraction looked arid and futile. Anything that
brought back narrative and depiction and meaning was exciting to museums and
collectors. Ovenden was a star of the dawning post-modern age. He was hugely
rated:

http://images.tate.org.uk/sites/default/files/styles/panels-4cols/public/images/image/tate-modern-project-concept-view-new-building-tate-modern-south.jpg

for comparison, Tate owns five works by Turner prize winner Douglas Gordon
against its 34 Ovendens. Private collectors including former Conservative party
treasurer Lord McAlpine coveted his works.

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/April20131/get-attachment%201.jpg

In 1975 Ovenden, along with Peter Blake among others, founded the Brotherhood
of Ruralists, an avowedly regressive art group. At a time of disillusion with the
modern, his cocktail of interests – the countryside, where his rambling estate was
according to him an Edenic paradise, the quirky 19th-century origins of
photography and, er, little girls – had a strikingly defiant and eccentric flavour that
in its day seemed intriguing and English.

Today, it is hard not to see the dark side of this Englishness, whatever the truth
may be about his personal life or the circumstances in which the works were
created. His project to illustrate Nabokov's novel Lolita invites comparison with one
of the most florid sexual imaginations in modern literature. Nabokov appears to
have sublimated a sexual fascination with children into a literary style of opulent
brilliance. Ovenden's Lolita drawings, however, seem quite baldly and openly sexual
in a way that dares the onlooker to accuse him of something.

It is the quite crude sexual suggestiveness of some of Ovenden's pictures that now
poisons them as art. Nowadays, we don't take that lightly. Ovenden's success in
earlier decades shows how profoundly times and values have changed. No one can
ever have looked at his pictures of children and failed to see their flirtation with
sexualising the young. But once upon a time no one thought it mattered so very
much.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/apr/02/graham-ovenden-artist-1970s-decadence

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/artist-graham-ovenden-found-guilty-on-four-counts-of-indecency-with-a-child-8556873.html

Cidersomerset

4th April 2013, 19:41

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4 April 2013 Last updated at 11:36

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8556877.ece/ALTERNATES/w460/AN18343067Artist-Graham-Ovenden.jpg

Graham Ovenden sex crimes: Tate removes artist's workGraham Ovenden Pic:
PA Graham Ovenden's work has been widely shown over the past 40 years
Prints by the artist Graham Ovenden have been removed from the Tate's online
collection following his conviction for child sex offences.Ovenden was found guilty
at Truro Crown Court on Tuesday of six counts of indecency and one of indecent
assault against girls in the 1970s and 80s.

A Tate spokeswoman said the gallery was "reviewing the online presentation" of the 34 prints.

Ovenden, 70, is on bail ahead of sentencing at Plymouth Crown Court.The
spokeswoman said: "Graham Ovenden is an artist of note, whose work has been
widely shown over more than 40 years.

Victorian clothing

"However, following his conviction at Truro Crown Court, Tate is seeking further
information and is reviewing the online presentation of those editioned prints by
him that are held in the national collection.

"Until this review is complete, the images will not be available online and the works
will not be available to view by appointment."

The 34 prints were given to the Tate in 1975 as part of a larger gift of about 3,000
works.The Ovenden prints include work inspired by Alice In Wonderland and images
of naked young girls.During the artist's trial, the jury heard Ovenden's portraiture
formed part of a ruse for abusing girls.He made his victims dress in Victorian
clothing before removing it and committing indecent acts, the court was told.
Ovenden, of The Garage in Barley Splatt, near Bodmin Moor in Cornwall, told the
court he had taken pictures of children, including those in various states of undress,
but said they were not indecent.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-22026730

Cidersomerset

6th April 2013, 07:40

Friday, 05 April 2013 11:11

Posted by David Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/April20132/jimmy_savile_totp_.jpg

'If you are not following the revelations about Jimmy Savile closely and believe that
he was a loaner who touched-up a few young groupies, then you have been
deceived. Jimmy Savile’s actions go far beyond what you can even begin to believe:
until you look at the evidence. In this article I am going to tell you exactly how you
have been deceived, why you have been deceived and why it matters to everyone
in the UK.

All links in this piece open in new browser windows to allow you to read the further information in conjunction with this piece.'

Read more ...

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/82395-what-jimmy-savile-really-did

mahalall

17th April 2013, 10:13

Is the sacrifice of perverted celebrity jesters a distractional cover for a deeper pool of despair and abuse?

The intriguing case of David M takes satanic sexual abuse to its association with the intelligence and military sources and into the field of the super soldier program and extra-dimensional constructs.

CFeAF_apKEk

(expanding enquiry rather than distract or divert thread)

seeker/reader

17th April 2013, 12:22

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araucaria

17th April 2013, 17:52

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines

David Icke's headlines has a link to the Aangirfan blog with the following story

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Thatcher's Father Like Her Friend Jimmy Savile?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wXVRY8oqHRE/UW0KIayZe-I/AAAAAAAA2nQ/mdr-xRZs74w/s320/Thatcher01.jpg

Margaret Thatcher's father may have been like Jimmy Savile.

There are reports that Thatcher's father sexually abused young girls.

In 1997 the magazine Punch published an article by Professor Bernard Crick featuring allegations, including one from an alleged victim, that Alfred Roberts had been involved in several sexual assaults on young women.

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Here is the whole post

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/thatchers-father-like-jimmy-savile.html

Makes sense. Her dad was 'a tall blond with blue eyes', something else I didn't know...

Edit: Interesting to see how wikipedia handles this little incident:

An editor has expressed a concern that this article lends undue weight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#Undue_weight) to certain ideas, incidents, controversies or matters relative to the article subject as a whole. Please help to create a more balanced presentation. Discuss and resolve this issue before removing this message. (April 2013)

araucaria

18th April 2013, 07:41

American news network CNN in Baroness Thatcher tribute blunder after running a picture of former PM with JIMMY SAVILE

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2306481/Margaret-Thatcher-dead-CNN-run-PM-JIMMY-SAVILE-picture-tribute-blunder.html#ixzz2QnZe0auC
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2306481/Margaret-Thatcher-dead-CNN-run-PM-JIMMY-SAVILE-picture-tribute-blunder.html

sheme

18th April 2013, 08:04

Obviously upset the PTW with her grand daughters message, so you think that picture was an accident?

araucaria

18th April 2013, 09:07

Obviously upset the PTW with her grand daughters message, so you think that picture was an accident?

If it was, it would be because

she was, perhaps, more world famous in Britain than she was in the rest of the world.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/17/politicians-reassure-importance-thatcher-funeral

Cidersomerset

18th April 2013, 12:02

Who Murdered Mountbatten?

Thursday, 18 April 2013 11:30
Posted by David Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/April201393/princephillip.jpg

I think that it is quite obvious by now that detectives from Operation Yewtree aren’t
going to bother knocking on Prince Big Ear’s door or even that of his father Phil the
Duck’s… Unfortunately.As far as I’m concerned, the fact that they haven’t and have
no intention of doing so is a complete travesty of justice.The case for suspecting
that Big Ears is involved in paedophilia is, after all, pretty clear cut:

Veteran BBC presenter Bill Oddie has backed claims that Jimmy Savile’s abuse was
covered up because he was close friends with Prince Charles and was a regular
visitor to Kensington Palace, Buckingham Palace, and Highgrove. Former palace
Aide, Dickie Arbiter, told the Guardian newspaper Savile would greet young women
working at the palace by “rubbing his lips all the way up their arms in the palace
typing pool.”

A former BBC chauffeur says that BBC chauffeurs were sacked if they tried to blow
the whistle on Jimmy Savile’s child-sex-rape activities.The chauffeur said he had
once driven home a ‘hysterical’ 12-year-old girl. The girl said she had been sexually
assaulted by Savile after appearing on a BBC TV programme.

The BBC must investigate whether its staff acted as enablers or, better word,
accomplices to Savile’s crimes.

Read more ...

http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=11040

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/82930-who-murdered-mountbatten

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West Yorkshire Police Paedophiles and Coronation Street Stars

http://www.upsd.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/a.jpg

Read more ...
http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/west-yorkshire-police-paedophiles-and.html

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/82930-who-murdered-mountbatten
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After 10 year legal battle Court ruled Insurance company more important than sexually abused children

Royal and Sun Allience Insurance Group spent £750,000 pounds in legal fees to
prevent paying out £200,000 to victims of child abuse. They spend 10 years
torturing the abused children The insurance company did not even refund the fees
they had been paid by notorious paedophile John Allen to the abused children.
Were members of the Board of the Royal Sun Alliance paedophiles?

The State placed the children in Bryn Alyn Community childrens homes and paid
for the children to be abused by Allen and Staff and VIP paedophiles. Since then
the State, the Courts and all the people involved have made the children suffer
further abuse and relive their childhood abuse over and over again whilst giving
them nothing but grief in return.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42275000/jpg/_42275052_brynalyn_203_bbc.jpg

Read more ...
http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/after-10-year-legal-battle-court-ruled.html

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/82930-who-murdered-mountbatten
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Heartrending Statement from Victim of Bryn Alyn Group to Macur Review

Read more ...
http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/heartrending-statement-from-victim-of.html

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38893000/jpg/_38893763_johnallen203.jpg
John Allen who served only 6 years for the horrific abuse of children and for
defrauding the tax payers of millions

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/82930-who-murdered-mountbatten

jackovesk

19th April 2013, 15:20

Rolf Harris 'Arrested' over 'Sex ABUSE' claims

April 19, 2013

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/04/19/1226624/493233-rolf-harris.jpg
The Sun newspaper in Britain is reporting that Australian entertainer Rolf Harris was arrested in March in relation to sex abuse claims. Picture: Britta Campion Source: News Limited

THE Australian entertainer arrested on suspicion of alleged sexual offences has been named in the British press as Rolf Harris.

The 83-year-old legendary star has been under investigation by Scotland Yard since last November after a woman came forward and made historical sex abuse claims against him.

Harris, who has not been charged, reportedly strenuouosly denied the allegations but has declined to comment publicly. His management would also not return calls.

He was arrested last month and interviewed at length by police before later being bailed to appear before investigating officers again sometime in May, pending further inquiries.

Until yesterday, no mainstream press would name the star but that changed after British tabloid The Sun went to print.

Two weeks ago his wife, Welsh sculptress Alwen Hughes, and his brother/manager Bruce Harris also declined to comment.

Just days after Harris was last November appointed Officer of the Order of Australia - from the Queen's Birthday Honours list for services to performing and visual arts and to charities and to international relations through promotion of the Aussie culture police raided his home in the picturesque village of Bray in Berkshire about an hours drive west of London.

Five days later he attended the South London police station to be interviewed "under caution".

It was at this point he was told of the allegations against him and friends described him as being "shattered" at the news.

It was then not until March that he was again asked to appear at a police station where he was formally arrested and bailed, although no charges were laid.

That came just two days before his 83rd birthday. Outside his riverfront home on that day, a number of friends and wellwishers stopped by for a small gathering.

"He hasn't done anything wrong," one man said as he entered for a party.

It was not clear the Perth-born entertainer was home that day, with reports he had been living in a flat in London in recent weeks.

The claims against him surfaced during the police probe, dubbed Operation Yewtree, into British entertainer Jimmy Savile, who has since been described as one of the worst serial child abusers in British history with at least 400 known victims.

The claims against Harris were not linked to the Savile case, which was split into three categories of those involving Savile, those linked to Savile and "others" to which he fell into the latter category.

Unlike the cases of he 10 other men so far arrested by Yewtree detectives, including former pop star Gary Glitter and comedian Freddie Starr, police would not confirm the identity of Mr Harris nor the allegations against him.

Mr Harris, who painted a portrait of the Queen in 2005, is a bigger star in his adopted Britain than in Australia, his TV show, Rolf's Animal Clinic, still attracting more than a million viewers each week. A recent concert he performed since being made a suspect was a sell out.

Harris, a father of one, has been entertaining in song and painting for six decades since he arrived in London and wrote Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport, which became a hit in both the UK and Australia and attracted fans including Margaret Thatcher, who as prime minister cited the artist and his hit Two Little Boys as her favourite.

In 2006, Harris was made a Commander of the Order of the British Empire, in addition to previous honours including being appointed an MBE (Member of the Order of the British Empire) in 1968, an OBE in 1977 and became a Member of the Order of Australia (AM) in 1989. This, all in addition to honorary doctorates and other industry awards.

http://www.news.com.au/national-news/rolf-harris-named-by-uk-newspaper-in-sex-inquiry/story-fncynjr2-1226624466404

PS - Rolf, you Bastard..!!! :mad2:

Mark (Star Mariner)

20th April 2013, 15:05

araucaria

21st April 2013, 07:14

[......] and wrote Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport, which became a hit in both the UK and Australia and attracted fans including Margaret Thatcher, who as prime minister cited the artist and his hit Two Little Boys as her favourite.

Dear me. This song has completely different connotations now :/

Well, I don't know why: it was a woman who filed a complaint against the man, and so far he has only been arrested and 'only' to answer this one charge.

The important thing about the Rolf Harris case is why the arrest was not made public as others were. It seems it was because of his closeness to royalty, and with that coming out, people may begin to see a pattern.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312312/How-Royals-lawyer-used-Leveson-Lord-McAlpine-veiled-threats-Rolf-Harris-arrest-secret.html

Cidersomerset

21st April 2013, 12:13

MP Tom Watson’s letter about elite child abuse to Home Secretary Theresa May
(the political paedophile 'investigations' have gone so quiet you can hear the sound
of cover up if you listen hard enough)

Sunday, 21 April 2013 12:15
Posted by David Icke

What's that you say - if we stay quiet for long enough the people will forget all
about it? Well, this one won't.

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/April201395/get-attachment.jpg

Source

http://spotlightonabuse.wordpress.com/2013/04/19/tom-watsons-letter-to-theresa-may-19-4-13/

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Second Police Probe Ordered Into Rochdale Child Grooming Scandal

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http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/83118-mp-tom-watsons-letter-over-elite-child-abuse-to-home-secretary-theresa-may

Cidersomerset

23rd April 2013, 17:56

Gerry Adams knew of brother's alleged sexual abuse of his daughter for nine years 'but kept quiet to save his career'

Tuesday, 23 April 2013 10:45
Posted by David Icke

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'Gerry Adams has denied withholding information about child sex abuse claims
involving his niece to save his political career.The trial of his younger brother heard
that the Sinn Fein president did not tell police until nine years after Liam Adams
had allegedly confessed to abusing his own daughter as they walked together in
Dundalk in 2000.During cross examination at Belfast Crown Court defence barrister
Eilis McDermott QC asked why Gerry Adams had not told detectives about the
alleged admission until a month before a television programme relating to the child
abuse claims was to be aired.'

'I am suggesting that the reason you made this statement was to save your
political skin,' said Ms McDermott.

Gerry Adams replied: 'If I had been interested in saving my political skin I would
not have got involved with the process at the beginning. I tried to fulfil my
responsibility as an uncle to a young woman I am very fond of.

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for nine years 'but kept quiet to save his career'

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jackovesk

28th April 2013, 03:58

Rolf Harris (DUMPED) as face of British Paints

April 28, 2013

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ROLF Harris has been dumped as the famous face of British Paints after he first appeared on a TV commercial for the company more than 30 years ago.

The company claims the move to end its relationship is not linked to his arrest in the UK for questioning over allegations concerning sexual offences.

Harris is famous for his appearance in the TV commercials from the 1970's which ended with his slogan - "Trust British paints - sure can!"

British Paints and Harris teamed up just two years ago in an advertisement for its '4 Seasons' paint.

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28th April 2013, 04:06

Wonder if its true

Cidersomerset

28th April 2013, 19:37

Max Clifford is Charged with Eleven Counts of Indecent Assault on Teens
Saturday, 27 April 2013 11:17

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'The allegations date back to 1966 when Clifford worked in the public relations
department of the EMI record label.

The most recent offence is alleged to have taken place in 1985 by which time he
was running his own successful PR agency. The eldest of the alleged victims was 19
. Clifford said the allegations were "completely false" and had cast a "black cloud"
over him.Mr Clifford was arrested as part of Scotland Yard’s Operation Yewtree
investigation which was set up in the wake of the Jimmy Savile abuse scandal to
examine historic sex allegations.'

Read more: Max Clifford is Charged with Eleven Counts of Indecent Assault on
Teens

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PR guru Max Clifford repeats his denial over abuse charges and says he is looking
forward to a 'hearty breakfast'

Cidersomerset

28th April 2013, 19:44

Jay-Z says he Rapes Children - Illuminati Musical Satanism: The Documentary

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Published on 22 Oct 2012

This shocking documentary on Jay-Z includes him stating out of his own mouth that
he rapes children and is a monster, and shows the video proof of him wearing an
Aleister Crowley Satanic sweatshirt, and you'll see Crowley's books with your own
eyes where he wrote instructions for murdering children in order to get satanic
power and that he wanted to peck the eyes out of Jesus. And then there's Jay-Z's
$30,000 golden skull given to him by Kanye West, used in his Reflection Chamber,
and him saying "Murder Jesus" and much, much more. Film by Mark Dice

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Cidersomerset

28th April 2013, 19:47

Elm Guest House abuse scandal: 'Paedophile police ignored 16-year-old victim'
Sunday, 28 April 2013 12:03

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The cover-up by police and Intelligence agencies of paedophile politicians and
others from the rich and famous went on and goes on to this day. How do they
sleep at night? Like babies, probably.

'A boy who complained about sexual abuse by a VIP paedophile ring with alleged
links to the political establishment was ignored after he spoke out. The 16-year-old,
who lived in a South West London care home, said he was attacked at the notorious
Elm Guest House nearby. And despite evidence backing his claim from a second
boy, detectives failed to act, Exaro, the investigative website, and the Sunday
People can reveal.'

Read more: Elm Guest House abuse scandal: 'Paedophile police ignored 16-year-old
victim'

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Cidersomerset

28th April 2013, 21:23

Comic Freddie Starr arrested again after new sex claims made against him
25 Apr 2013 08:40

He answered bail and was arrested for a second time by Operation Yewtree cops over additional claims

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ComIC Freddie Starr was arrested again today after fresh sex claims were made
against him.The 70-year-old was quizzed by officers from Operation Yewtree, the
probe into the Jimmy Savile abuse scandal.Starr was held today when he answered
bail over his first arrest in November.Scotland Yard said a man had been “further
arrested on suspicion of sexual offences in connection with further allegations made
to Operation Yewtree”.The force’s investigation has been split into three strands –
allegations against Savile, against Savile and others, and allegations against others.

A Met spokesman said today’s arrest was part of the “others” category.

He added: “He was initially arrested on suspicion of sexual offences under ‘Savile
and others’ and answered bail."He was further arrested on suspicion of sex offences
in connection with Operation Yewtree but under the ‘others’ strand.”

Starr was bailed until June.

The comedian was originally interviewed last year after a woman alleged he
molested her in the 1970s when she was 14.Karin Ward claimed that Scouser Starr
groped her in Jimmy Savile’s BBC dressing room.Dad-of-six Starr, who lives in
Studley, Warwickshire, said after his first arrest: “My life is ruined.

"I feel so desperate at times I want to go and end it all.”

Starr, who is married to fourth wife Sophie Lea, 34, has vowed to prove he is
innocent.He was the second person arrested as part of the Met’s Operation Yewtree
probe.

The first was ex-pop star Gary Glitter.

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.Operation Yewtree: Freddie Starr facing fresh claimsFreddie Starr Freddie Starr
has been arrested under two strands of Operation Yewtree
Entertainer Freddie Starr has been rearrested over fresh claims of sexual offences,
under the strand of Operation Yewtree unrelated to Jimmy Savile.Mr Starr, 70, from
Warwickshire, was arrested last year on suspicion of sexual offences under
the "Savile and others" strand of the operation.

He has previously denied any wrongdoing and has been re-bailed until June.

Operation Yewtree was set up following the revelation of the sexual offences carried
out by Jimmy Savile.The late BBC Radio One DJ and television presenter abused
adults and children over more than five decades, according to a Metropolitan Police
report.The NSPCC described him as one of the most prolific sex offenders in its 129-
year history.

Operation Yewtree has three strands. One concerns Savile's crimes exclusively,
whilst another relates to allegations against Savile and others, and Mr Starr was
arrested on 1 November 2012 under this strand.The third strand, under which Mr
Starr was arrested on Wednesday, concentrates on accusations unconnected to the
Savile investigations but which emerged as a result of the publicity surrounding
Savile.

Mr Starr has previously denied claims that he groped a girl of 14 while in a BBC
dressing room with Savile.

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Cidersomerset

29th April 2013, 19:22

North Wales Child Abuse 76 Fresh Allegations

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Published on 29 Apr 2013

Detectives have confirmed they are investigating 76 new cases of suspected
historical abuse at children's care homes in north Wales.Police officers leading
Operation Pallial say the allegations centre on 18 different care homes between
1963 and 1992.A total of 84 individuals have been named as abusers by
complainants and 16 of those have been named by more than one victim. One
arrest has so far been made.The total number of allegations recorded since the new
police inquiry was launched in November has now risen to 140.The alleged victims
were aged between seven and 19, while the offences range from verbal and
physical assaults and abuse through to indecent assaults and serious sexual
assaults.Detective Superintendent Ian Mulcahey said: "Almost everyone that
Operation Pallial is aware of has now been video interviewed by specially trained
officers.

"Many have provided graphic accounts of abuse, in some cases of very serious criminality."

North Wales Chief Constable Mark Polin said it was "never too late" to report abuse
and urged anyone who has not come forward yet to do so.Wrexham's former Bryn
Estyn home, one where abuse is known to have happened He also told offenders
they should look over their shoulders.He said: "If you believe that the passage of
time will reduce the resolve of Operation Pallial or any police force to identify
people still alive who have caused harm to others and bring them to justice, you
are are sorely mistaken.

"People who commit serious and sexual offences should live with the knowledge
that we will always examine new information and evidence and seek to bring them
to justice for their crimes."Offenders should quite rightly have to look over their
shoulders for the rest of their lives."One of the victims who has taken new
allegations to the police has previously told Sky News how he was abused in
various North Wales care homes.

"Michael" also revealed how as a 12-year-old he was repeatedly put on a mini-bus
with other children, driven down to London and forced to take part in lurid sex
parties.Last November, he told Sky News how the men who abused him were
all "posh people" who plied the boys were drink and drugs before abusing them.
He said: "It was how compliant you were, how nice you were towards them and
looking back it was all about what they could get away with."
The Waterhouse Inquiry in 2000 found evidence of widespread sexual abuse and
several care home staff members were convicted for various offences.

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Wales child abuse: Operation Pallial inquiry finds evidence of 140 claims
North Wales Police Chief Constable Mark Polin said sex offenders will always be
looking over their shoulders

An independent investigation examining claims of historical child abuse at children's
homes in north Wales has found "significant evidence of systemic and serious
sexual and physical abuse".Investigators in Operation Pallial have found evidence of
140 allegations of historical abuse between 1963 and 1992.Seventy six new
complainants have also come forward.The claims centre on 18 homes involving
offences against boys and girls aged between seven and 19. A total of 84 suspected
offenders have been named - 75 male and nine female. Of these, 16 have been
named by more than one complainant.

Mark Easton

Home editor

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The scale of the investigation is quite a surprise.

We had a huge police investigation in the 1990s and we had a public inquiry led by
a former judge, as well as other inquiries.And here we are all these years later, we
look at this again and discover that it is far more widespread - over four decades,
going right back to the early 1960s.Previously, we thought it started during a
period from the mid-1970s and the investigation now covers, not just three or four
children's homes, but 18 children's homes.We are talking about systemic, serious
sexual and physical abuse that, it would appear, has been conducted by a large
number of people.There are 84 names - 75 men but nine women as well.
If the allegations are true, it's an appalling scandal and a scandal that, as some
victims have said, was left unresolved for far too long.

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It is believed that 10 of the 16 may be deceased.

Home Secretary Theresa May ordered this inquiry following a Newsnight report in
November, that as well as leading to a Tory peer being falsely accused of
paedophilia, alleged that child abuse in north Wales in the 1970s and 1980s was far
more widespread than had previously been investigated. North Wales Chief
Constable Mark Polin said: "Offenders quite rightly should have to look over their
shoulders for the rest of their lives."Keith Bristow, director general of the National
Crime Agency (NCA), has agreed to continue investigations at the request of Mark
Polin, the North Wales chief constable.

"I took the decision to ask the director general of the National Crime Agency to
investigate these allegations last November conscious that some victims of historic
abuse may not have the necessary level of confidence in North Wales Police to
report these matters directly to us," Mr Polin said.

"Operation Pallial has now secured accounts from almost all victims who are willing
to support an investigation and it makes absolute sense for the officers and staff
involved to date to be the core of phase two and to move matters forward as
quickly as professionally as possible."At a news conference in Colwyn Bay, Mr Polin
told victims: "It's never too late to report abuse."He also sent a message to
offenders, saying: "If you believe the passage of time will reduce the resolve of
Operation Pallial or any police force to identify people who are still alive and to
bring them to justice, you are sorely mistaken."

'Prioritising activities'
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Merseyside Police

Det Supt Ian Mulcahey of Merseyside Police is leading the day-to-day investigation.

He said: "We're prioritising our work focus on those individuals who pose the
greatest risk to the public."I want to reassure the community that we are taking
their allegations seriously and my officers are dedicated top ensuring that people
who are responsible for these offences are held to account regardless of the
passage of time."Mr Bristow said the rest of the investigation would be conducted
as quickly as professionally possible.He said he believed it was "very positive" that
so many people had come forward and that he hoped victims would receive more
support than perhaps they had done in the past.A Crown Prosecution Service (CPS)
lawyer has been appointed to assist Operation Pallial.

The CPS lawyer has advised "the priority should be given to the most serious
allegations and the prioritisation process has been agreed with them".The
investigation involves police officers and staff, primarily from forces in north-west
England, supported by members of the Serious Organised Crime Agency (Soca) and
the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP Centre).

Waterhouse inquiry

By December it had heard from 105 victims of alleged abuse.

At the time, Det Supt Mulcahey said the investigation would "follow the evidence
without fear or favour".

Keith Gregory urged victims to come forward

A separate review by Mrs Justice Macur is investigating the terms of the
Waterhouse abuse inquiry, which began in 1996.It examined the abuse of victims in
former north Wales care homes such as Bryn Estyn in Wrexham dating back to the
1970s.The new inquiry followed a victim's claims that Sir Ronald Waterhouse only
uncovered a fraction of the abuse.Those claims surfaced in the wake of the Jimmy
Savile scandal.Last week, one man was arrested in Ipswich, Suffolk, as part of
Operation Pallial and questioned on suspicion of serious sexual offences against a
number of people. He has been bailed until July.Des Mannion, NSPCC national head
of service in Wales, said: "This latest investigation is a major step forward
investigating claims of wide spread child abuse.

"Many who have been waiting decades for justice and for their voices to be heard
have now finally found the courage to come forward and we mustn't fail them this
time."Keith Gregory, a Wrexham councillor who alleges he was abused as a child
while in care at Bryn Estyn, says victims will feel they are now being believed.

"To bring justice these allegations need to be looked at," said Mr Gregory.

"It feels like at last we are starting to be believed."

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Cidersomerset

29th April 2013, 19:37

North Wales care homes abuse

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The longstanding claims of child abuse in children's homes in
North Wales weren't claims. They were true. The investigators
say they found "significant evidence of systemic and serious
sexual and physical abuse".

Cidersomerset

2nd May 2013, 11:26

2 May 2013 Last updated at 11:06

Stuart Hall admits indecent assaults
Ed Thomas reports: "Again and again the question was put to Stuart Hall - what
have you got to say to your victims?"

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BBC broadcaster Stuart Hall has admitted 14 charges of indecently assaulting girls
including one aged nine.

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The 83-year-old of Wilmslow, Cheshire, pleaded guilty at Preston Crown Court to
the offences, involving 13 victims, which occurred between 1967 and 1985.
Three charges of indecent assault and one of rape will lie on the court file.

His lawyer said Hall apologised to his victims and added: "He is all too aware that
his disgrace is complete." He has been bailed until sentencing on 17 June.

'Opportunistic predator'

Hall admitted the offences last month but they could not be revealed due to
reporting restrictions.Chief Crown Prosecutor for the North West, Nazir Afzal,
described Hall as an "opportunistic predator".He added: "We prosecuted Stuart Hall
because the evidence of the victims clearly established a pattern of behaviour that
was unlawful and for which no innocent explanation could be offered.

DCI Neil Esseen and Nazir Afzal from the CPS spoke outside the court

"His victims did not know each other and almost two decades separated the first
and last assaults but almost all of the victims, including one who was only nine at
the time of the assault, provided strikingly similar accounts.

"Whether in public or private, Hall would first approach under friendly pretences
and then bide his time until the victim was isolated.

"I would like to thank the victims for having had the bravery to come forward. This
case clearly shows that the victims of abuse will not be denied justice by the
passage of time and abusers will be held to account."

Mr Afzal said the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) would not be proceeding with
the rape charge as the woman who made the allegation no longer wished to give
evidence in light of the guilty pleas.

Football commentator

The court heard in the 1980s Hall molested a nine-year-old girl by putting his hand up her clothing.

Continue reading the main story
In court
Judith Moritz

North of England correspondent, BBC News

Stuart Hall was 'opportunistic predator' - prosecutor

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Chief prosecutor Nazir Afzal describes the former tv presenter Stuart Hall as
an "opportunistic predator" after he pleaded guilty to indecently assaulting 13 girls,
the youngest aged 9.

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Court Ten at Preston Crown Court was so packed for the short hearing, the police
officers present had to sit on the jury bench.Stuart Hall cut an elderly figure,
allowed to sit alongside his barristers rather than being made to sit inside the dock.
He only spoke to confirm his details, and sat impassively during proceedings, as his
lawyer told the court that Stuart Hall was sorry.

He also kissed a 13-year-old girl on the lips after he said to her: "People need to
show thanks in other ways." On another occasion in the 1970s he fondled the
breast of a girl aged 16 or 17, the court was told.Hall was initially arrested in
December and made a statement labelling the claims "pernicious, callous, cruel and
above all spurious".He has been a familiar face and voice in British broadcasting for
half a century, and was awarded an OBE in the 2012 New Year Honours.

The former It's A Knockout presenter was working as a football commentator on
BBC Radio 5 Live and wrote a weekly sport column for the Radio Times magazine
until his arrest.

The BBC said at the time that he would not work for the corporation until the
matter was resolved.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22379286

Cidersomerset

2nd May 2013, 11:34

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2 May 2013 Last updated at 11:55

.BBC to tackle bullying at workNew Broadcasting House The Respect at Work review
asked staff to comment on respect, behaviour and culture at the BBC Continue reading the main story
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BBC denies reports it 'gagged' staff

An "uncomfortable" report on behaviour at the BBC has found incidents of sexual
harassment are rare, but says bullying is much more prominent.In its Respect At
Work review, the BBC said it will overhaul its policies and remove contractual
gagging clauses to make it easier for staff to speak out.

The report, set up in the wake of the Savile scandal, includes feedback from current
and former staff, and unions.

BBC director general Tony Hall said he wanted "zero tolerance of bullying".

The report, which focused on 2005-2012, suggested there was "a strong
undercurrent of fear" at the BBC when addressing issues of bullying.

"Parts of this report... make uncomfortable reading," wrote Lord Hall, in his
response to the review.

"We need to be honest about our shortcomings and single-minded in addressing
them."

"I want... a culture where people feel able to raise concerns and have the
confidence that they will be dealt with appropriately.

"I also want people to be able to speak freely about their experiences of working at
the BBC so that we can learn from them," he added.

Lucy Adams, director of BBC Human Resources, said the review took
an "unflinching look at the culture that exists inside the BBC today", adding that
bullying was clearly "an issue".

BBC HR head Lucy Adams: "High standards of behaviour apply to all staff"

More than 900 people came forward to share their experiences of the BBC.

Of the 500 interviewed, more than two thirds said they had witnessed or
encountered bullying in the corporation.

"Throughout our conversations we heard a strong undercurrent of fear; fear of
speaking out, fear of reprisal, fear of losing your job, being made redundant, fear of
becoming a victim, fear of getting a reputation as a troublemaker and not getting
promoted if an employee, or further work if a freelancer, supplier or contractor,"
the report found.

'Untouchable'

The 80-page report, by barrister Dinah Rose, found some behaviour appeared to go
unchallenged by senior managers, with certain individuals "seen as
being 'untouchable' due to their perceived value to the BBC".

With this in mind, the BBC has said it will remove derogatory statement
restrictions - the "gagging orders" common in many jobs - from future BBC
contracts and compromise agreements.

A gagging order prevents an individual from speaking publicly about issues in the
workplace, and is widely viewed as a means of protecting talent or senior personnel.

"There is a perception that 'talent' are treated differently and don't have to adhere
to the same rules because they wield power over the organisation and anyone who
tries to manage them," the report found.

"In many cases, the BBC does not directly employ them and so people are quite
unsure about what interventions are possible."

In response to the findings, the BBC have agreed to implement a number of
changes in consultation with staff and the unions.

Bullying and harassment policy will be reworked, with an emphasis on resolving
issues informally;The policy will be extended so it is clear the general principles
apply to all those who work for the BBC or on its premises, or who participate in its
programmes;A confidential helpline will be set up to support staff; Complaints will
be heard by a manager and an HR person from outside the division to ensure
impartiality; Complaints will aim to be resolved within 30 days, with all parties
madeaware of the outcome;The BBC will train a number of expert mediators from
within the HR team and improve senior management training.

"It is quite clear that bullying has become an institutionalised problem at the BBC,
one that has taken hold over many years," said Michelle Stanistreet, general
secretary for the NUJ.

"That the BBC is now taking action and getting a grip of what is a toxic problem can
only be a good thing.

"We will work with the BBC to monitor and review all the changes. It's vital that this
is a genuine fresh start, one that marks the dismantling of a culture that has
allowed bullying and harassment to take hold."

The Respect At Work review was set up after the Jimmy Savile scandal erupted last
year. Its initial remit was to look specifically at BBC policies relating to sexual
harassment, thought that remit was subsequently broadened.

The report found there had been 37 formal complaints of sexual harassment over
the past six years - an average of six per year - out of a workforce of
approximately 22,000 staff and 60,000 freelancers.

"The report finds that thankfully incidents of sexual harassment at the BBC today
are rare. However we shouldn't be complacent as just one case, is one too many,"
wrote Lord Hall.

"Our staff are our greatest strength and this report shows that they are proud to
work for the BBC and that we have a culture based on values that are strongly held."

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Cidersomerset

2nd May 2013, 11:42

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Coronation Street star Bill Roache arrested on suspicion of raping 15-year-old girl
Coronation Street actor Bill Roache has been arrested on suspicion of rape.
Coronation Street actor Bill Roache has been arrested on suspicion of raping an under-age girl in 1967.
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The 81-year-old actor, who has spent 53 years playing Ken Barlow in the soap, is
alleged to have raped a 15 year-old girl in Lancashire between April and July 1967.
He was held at his home in Wilmslow, Cheshire, this morning. The actor was forced
to apologise last month after claiming that the victims of sexual abuse bring it upon
themselves. When asked about the furore surrounding the Jimmy Savile sex abuse
allegations in an interview, he claimed that they are being punished because of
what they have done in previous lives. Roache, who famously claims to have slept
with more than 1,000 women, said: "Paedophilia is absolutely horrendous.
Paedophiles should be sought out, rooted out and dealt with.

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"But there's a fringe of people who, particularly pop singers, they have these
groupies, these girls, who come, they're sexually active, sexually mature, they
don't ask for their birth certificate, they don't know what age they may be.

"But they're certainly not grooming them and exploiting them, but they can be
caught in this trap.

"These people are instantly stigmatised, some will be innocent, some will not, but
until such time as it's proven there should be anonymity for both."

An ITV spokeswoman said the broadcaster was not in a position to comment, but it
is understood Roache will not appear in the long-running soap while investigations
continue. A spokesman for Lancashire Police said: "An 81-year-old man from
Wilmslow in Cheshire has this morning, Wednesday May 1 2013, been arrested by
Lancashire Constabulary on suspicion of rape.

"The man will be interviewed at a police station in Lancashire during the course of the day.

"We take all allegations of sexual abuse extremely seriously and would encourage
people with any information about sexual abuse, or anyone who has been a victim
of sexual abuse, to come forward and report their concerns confident in the
knowledge they will be investigated appropriately and with sensitivity."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/10029915/Coronation-Street-star-Bill-Roache-arrested-on-suspicion-of-raping-15-year-old-girl.html

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I don't like gossip etc but as Bill Roach was formally charged with rape it bears
some relevance......

MIRROR ONLINE......

By Nicola Methven
Comments

Ken Barlow actor at 80: He's still got the twinkle of a young man says his girlfriend (who happens to be 43) 13 Apr 2012 00:00

Former weathergirl Emma Jesson claims the OAP actor has so much energy he’s
more like a man 50 years his junior

http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article788980.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/William+Roache+and+girlfriend+Emma+Jesson

Lovers: William Roache and girlfriend Emma Jesson Lovers: William Roache and girlfriend Emma Jesson
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THE girlfriend of Corrie Casanova Bill Roache has revealed how she struggles to
keep pace with him – despite being nearly 40 years younger.Speaking for the first
time since Bill confessed to sleeping with 1,000 women, the former weathergirl
Emma Jesson, 43, claims the OAP actor has so much energy he’s more like a man
50 years his junior.She also admits she found it impossible to resist Bill, who turns
80 later this month.In a chat with TV’s Piers Morgan, to be screened tonight, Emma
says: “The first meeting was breathtaking.

“He’s very charismatic and he’s got this twinkle, everybody’s very drawn to him.

“William Roache MBE is 80 years old and he doesn’t look it. He runs rings around me.

“I don’t know what his secret is but he’s still got the schedule of a 30-year-old...
5.30am starts and 10pm finishes. It’s incredible.”

Roache once said he’d never find love again after the death in 2009 of his second
wife Sara, who he was married to for 31 years.But, he tells Piers, Emma changed
that when they hooked up 18 months later – and admits he hasn’t ruled out tie the
knot a third time.When the interview was recorded last month, the actor admitted
to bedding up to 1,000 women in his early Ken Barlow days.

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Cidersomerset

2nd May 2013, 11:57

The Paedofile: Police investigating the previous police investigation which investigated
the one before that find themselves investigating the Police Complaints Commission

Thursday, 02 May 2013 12:23
Posted by David Icke

'As the evidence of paedophile child-trafficking cover-ups in Richmond goes from
slightly sneaky to the multiply slimey, the absence of any arrests is getting harder
and harder to explain.

The Exaro news site reveals how police in 1983 took no action against a child abuse
complaint at a Richmond care home despite corroborating evidence from the
victim’s friend. Then how a 2003 team reopened the investigation, got nowhere…
and are now being investigated by contemporary Plod….who is also investigating his
own IPCC about a 2004 complaint relating to the case that they didn’t follow up. I
wonder if anyone has spotted the fact that the cops are a bit, um, lacking in
objectivity when it comes to investigating themselves.'

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Read more: The Paedofile: Police investigating the previous police investigation
which investigated the one before that find themselves investigating the Police
Complaints Commission

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/83608-the-paedofile-police-investigating-the-previous-police-investigation-which-investigated-the-one-before-that-find-themselves-investigating-the-police-complaints-commission

Cidersomerset

2nd May 2013, 12:05

Although this thread is posting mainly high profile cases in the UK, the problem is global !!

http://www.independent.co.uk/independent.co.uk/images/independent_masthead.png

India calls for death penalty for those accused of brutal gang rape of medical student who later died

“There are 400 people protesting and lighting candles. In the new year, we want a revolution”

Sean McLain New Delhi
Monday 31 December 2012

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Every woman in India is likely to have experienced some sexual harassment
Six face death penalty for bus gang-rape after victim dies
Police officer dies after rape demo clash in India

Relatives of the victim of a brutal gang rape in India have called for death penalty
for the accused rapists.

“We want all the accused to be hanged, and we will fight for that until the end,”
said the brother of the woman, who died from her injuries.

His call was echoed by protesters pressuring the Government to amend Indian law
to permit the death penalty in cases of extreme sexual violence.Five of the six men
accused of raping the 23-year-old woman in the back of a bus on the night of 16
December are expected to be formally charged with murder on Thursday, according
to the Press Trust of India. The sixth accused is a minor, and is not expected to be
tried as an adult. The victim, who had been flown to Singapore for specialist
treatment before she died, remains anonymous in accordance with India’s laws.

The victim’s father told The Indian Express the family was struggling to cope with
their loss. “My wife had hardly eaten in the last two weeks. She was exhausted... I
think she was not ready to face the shock of our daughter’s death, despite doctors
always telling us that she was serious. She cried intermittently all of Saturday, but
it got worse on the flight back home.

“Her books, clothes, they are all here,” the victim’s father said from the family
home. “It is hard to believe I will never hear her voice again. She will never read
books to me in English again.” Friends of the victim told reporters the woman had
been engaged to the man who was with her when the attack took place, and
planned to marry in February.

A gathering of demonstrators braved the cold winter chill yesterday to ring in the
New Year at Jantar Mantar, which is now the main site of the anti-rape protests,
after police cordoned off India Gate. One of them was Sarita Singh, a 26-year-old
social worker from Delhi.

“There are 300 to 400 people here, sitting in groups, lighting candles. One group is
singing songs,” Singh told The Independent. “At midnight, I plan on joining a team
that will light torches to signify that in the new year, we want a revolution.”

Businesses responded to the air of mourning in the city by cancelling or toning
down their New Year celebrations. The prestigious Delhi Gymkhana Club, which
counts many ministers and business leaders as members, replaced its celebrations
with a candlelight vigil.

The Indian Armed Forces cancelled their planned New Year’s Eve celebrations, as
did the head of the ruling Congress Party, Sonia Gandhi.

New Delhi exploded in rage as details of the rape attack spread through the Indian
press last week. Protesters clashed with police, who used batons and water
cannons to disperse the crowds gathering at India Gate and the president’s
residence in central New Delhi. But since the victim’s death, protests have largely
taken on a more sombre note. Candles replaced brickbats, and silent
demonstrations took the place of sloganeering. The crowds have contracted in size,
partly due to road closures around the centre of the city and the shuttering of
metro stations near the protest sites.

Yesterday, some protesters camped out in front of the Bristol Hotel in Gurgaon in
the neighbouring state of Haryana, where the artist Yo Yo Honey Singh, a UK
rapper of Indian origin, had been booked to perform. But the performance was
cancelled at the last minute since his lyrics, which seem to glorify sexual
harassment and even rape, have come under criticism over recent days.

Others used the celebratory atmosphere of the New Year’s Eve to send a message.
Nirantar, a Delhi-based women’s rights organisation, held a “Take Back the Night”
street party. The flier for the party, which circulated on social media, called for
attendees to come “dented and painted”. The phrase was a reference to a
statement made by the president’s son and Member of Parliament, Abhijit
Mukherjee, who described the protesters as such in an apparent attempt to
discredit them. Mr Mukherjee has since apologised for his remark.

“In India, on New Year’s Eve, it is mostly men on the street,” said Purnima, who
organised the event. Like many in India, Purnima goes by only one name. “Women
are generally afraid of New Year’s Eve, afraid of drunk men. We thought it was the
time to change that.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/india-calls-for-death-penalty-for-those-accused-of-brutal-gang-rape-of-medical-student-who-later-died-8433978.html

Cidersomerset

2nd May 2013, 13:19

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2 May 2013 Last updated at 13:57
Coronation Street star William Roache denies rapeWilliam Roache returning home
William Roache has appeared in Coronation Street since its first episode in 1960
Coronation Street star William Roache has "strenuously" denied raping a 15-year-
old girl in the 1960s.

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Mr Roache, 81, is accused of two counts of rape in Haslingden, Lancashire, between
April and July 1967.

The actor, who plays Ken Barlow in the ITV soap, said in a statement through his
lawyers: "I am astounded and deeply horrified by the extraordinary events of the
last 24 hours."

He is due to appear before Preston magistrates on 14 May.

'Preserve innocence'

Mr Roache was arrested at his home in Wilmslow, Cheshire, on Wednesday.

He said: "I strenuously deny the allegations and will now focus my full attention on
fighting to preserve my innocence in the challenging times ahead.

"I would like to offer my sincere thanks to all those people who have offered me
their support and good wishes at this difficult time."

He was charged by Lancashire Police following consultation with the Crown
Prosecution Service (CPS) who said it has been reviewing evidence since 1 March.

Chief Crown Prosecutor for the North West, Nazir Afzal said: "Having completed our
review, we have concluded that there is sufficient evidence and it is in the public
interest for Mr Roache to be charged with two offences of rape relating to a girl,
aged 15, in 1967."

An ITV spokesman said the actor would not be appearing in Coronation Street until
legal proceedings were concluded.

Mr Roache has an award from Guinness World Records for being the world's longest-
serving soap actor, having appeared in Coronation Street since its first episode in 1960.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22378146

Mark (Star Mariner)

2nd May 2013, 13:22

Thanks for keeping this important thread going, and up to date, Cider. We're seeing these allegations come thick and fast now. The only thing that is more shocking than hearing these famous, accomplished, even much-loved names associated with such awful crimes, is that the victims have remained silent for so long (or that the police are only now taking notice). It seems the Savile case opened those flood gates, and given these victims the courage they required to take this bold step, and to seek justice.

greybeard

2nd May 2013, 13:30

William Roche has in interviews shown a deep interest in spirituality---and love of women.
He was very honest about being a serial Casanova.
Frankly I doubt he would have to rape in order to satisfy his appetite.

Chris

Cidersomerset

2nd May 2013, 18:59

Former colleague: Stuart Hall 'was a complete nuisance'

2 May 2013 Last updated at 17:07 Help Linda McDougall, a former colleague of
Stuart Hall, has told the BBC he was "one of these people who had his hands all
over you."

interview on link......http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22386373

The political writer worked with the presenter at BBC Manchester in the late 60s
and 70s. She recalled how he occupied a private room in the building and it was
common knowledge that he would entertain female visitors there.

Ms McDougall said she was speaking up now as previously she had no idea that his
proclivities included children.

Hall has admitted 14 charges of indecently assaulting girls including one aged nine.

The 83-year-old of Wilmslow, Cheshire, pleaded guilty at Preston Crown Court to
the offences, involving 13 victims, which occurred between 1967 and 1985.

Read More
Stuart Hall admits indecent assaults

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22386373

Cidersomerset

2nd May 2013, 21:29

Stuart Hall admits sex abuse

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Published on 2 May 2013

Stuart Hall originally called the allegations against him "pernicious"
and "spurious", the 83-year-old has now admitted indecently assaulting
13 girls, including one nine-year-old.

Cidersomerset

2nd May 2013, 21:32

Historic child abuse - how are victims brought to justice?

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Published on 2 May 2013

Krishnan speaks to lawyer Liz Dux, who specialises in dealing
with abuse cases and represents over 67 victims who were
abused by Jimmy Savile, and by the chief constable of Cheshire c
onstabulary, David Whatton.

happyuk

3rd May 2013, 07:46

I'm totally confused. The BBC report seems to be saying that a DJ was given free range and ultimately put in charge of a government psychiatric hospital. This DJ, who had no medical and/or psychiatric training, used his position to sexually abuse underage patients. He was also given access to several other psychiatric facilities in which he molested an untold number of children.

This can't be true. I have to be missing something.

No you are not missing anything. A washed-up DJ could only have had such high-level access to hospitals and institutions on the say-so of very senior officials.

Dig into the British Establishment in general: Westminster, local government, schools, the Secret Courts, the social care system, or the Care Home system in particular, and I guarantee that – under every stone you lift – you will see some low-life scrambling for cover, pleading false harassment and using their judicial friends to dish out gagging orders.

We should all note one particularly devastating line from an old Independent article: "Links have also been discovered between several of the key suspects. They were found to have worked together in the same homes, given each other references and carried out training courses together."

Remember the Soham murders, and how a long-suspected and protected Humberside paedophile had protected the killer Ian Huntley, enabling him to gain his janitor’s job at the dead girls’ school. That man is an accessory to murder. Only last year, he tried to stand as the Labour candidate for police commissioner.

The local Labour Party have yet to shop him; but they did at least have the decency to turn him down. Without an iota of shame, this bloke went to the media and said how his blacklisting was totally unfair.

You couldn’t make it up.

Cidersomerset

3rd May 2013, 11:29

Thanks happyyuk well put, what we are really trying to establish is how
far 'establishment' this is amongst the general criminal activity of the general public
overall . Who for whatever reason has committed a crime a against a fellow human
being adult or child. This is obviously wrong and the perpetrators should feel
the full force of the law. The authorities will go after these as best they can.

What we all wonder is what David Icke, Jorden Maxwell and many others say, is
there an establishment coverup higher up the chain protecting paedophile rings and
ultimately child sacrifice either in Satanic or some other kind of ritual to gain sordid
gratification or the 'essence' or power from their victims....

There are references to this throughout this thread, and its whether we can get the
mainstream media togo the extra step imo and dig into the bigger picture.The
establishment will go to great lengths to protect elites from this if they can.

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The Paedofile: The Establishment decides to fight Secret Family Courts with Secret celebrity prosecutions.

Friday, 03 May 2013 10:37
Posted by David Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/May2013/stuart-hall_2444607b.jpg
'The more one gets into the area of child sex-abuse, the murkier it gets. Eight years
and eleven separate promises of action later, the Secret Family Courts are still
secret. Now it looks as if we’re going to have a new judicial Division, the Secret
Celebrity Courts.

Until last night I had a very straightforward view about Stuart Hall: he was, for me,
always associated with television programmes aimed at those with an IQ lower than
their limb count – and therefore a bit of a prat. Now – piecing together source
snippets and staccato media reportage, I have added a likely second opinion: he
was an opportunistic paedophile working alone. It looks very doubtful indeed that
he was a systemic, networked paedophile. Certainly, what he doesn’t have is any
power: he’s old, ordinary and washed-up: that’s why he’s been caught and found
guilty. Had he been dead, his crimes would’ve come to light before now.'

But the thing is, I have not been allowed, as a free British citizen, to attend Court
and make my own mind up about it.

Last night I returned from a lovely informal supper with solid, grounded friends
here in southern France. There was an email waiting for my attention when I got
back, and on the basis of it I ran an item in this morning’s Smoke Signals on the
subject of Bill Roach’s arrest yesterday. The email warned me about the Hall case,
and suggested strongly that Roach’s situation would prove to be similar in its
outcome. The ‘media consultant’ referred to is not, in my humble estimation, the
nicest of people: his basic premise when dealing with the élite is “You
underestimate the intelligence of the thinking Brit: beware”.

I have not the faintest notion as to what the grounds were for hearing the Hall case
in camera. Last year’s Pakistani mass-grooming cases were a different matter, and
I went along with that in the community interest. But while Stuart Hall has the
mark of sad about him, the Marquis de Sade he is not. He lacks influence, he is not
a gangster capable of terrorising juries, nor does he have a regiment of cynical
lawyers at his disposal to pervert such justice as still exists in Great Britain. I
remain steadfast in my view that he is just a distraction: and so I would like to hear
some MPs beyond Tom Watson’s tribalist niggling asking serious questions about
why a media-excluded trial of Stuart Hall was necessary.

Of course I am mortified about the effect on Hall’s victims, and admire the diligence
of the Lancashire police in putting together what seems to have been a complex
investigation. But I am sick to death of hypothesising about what seems to have
been. I’m a big boy now – I wear long trousers – and I want to see the highest
professionals in the land coming to public trial…not just the pathetic, amateur
lowlife disappearing into a black hole of judicial secrecy.

Of late, I have been courting more and more opinion about the psychography of
organised child abuse. I think the personality match between Big State’s power
over the Small citizen and Adult’s power over the defenceless Child is one well
worth further investigation….if only because the condition in common is bullying.
Bullies flourish in a culture of secrecy. My observation here is that two secrecies do
not make a transparent.

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/83629-the-paedofile-the-establishment-decides-to-fight-secret-family-courts-with-secret-celebrity-prosecutions

Cidersomerset

3rd May 2013, 11:44

Friday, 03 May 2013 12:24

Posted by David Icke

http://www.independent.co.uk/independent.co.uk/images/independent_masthead.png

Scotland Yard let staff ‘resign to avoid justice’

Nearly a third of the 274 officers and staff were allowed to quit before conclusion of hearings despite serious allegations

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8412007.ece/ALTERNATES/w460/web-scotland-yard-getty.jpg

Scotland Yard officers accused of sexual assault, racism and theft have been
allowed to resign from the force before facing dismissal and professional disgrace at
misconduct hearings, according to new figures out today.Nearly a third of the 274
officers and staff were allowed to quit before the conclusion of their hearings
despite serious allegations remaining against them.Critics claim that the system
would allow some former officers to renew their careers in the burgeoning private
policing sector.Keith Vaz, the chairman of the home affairs select committee,
said: "I am very surprised by the number of officers who were able to resign to
avoid justice. Hearings must be taken to their conclusion notwithstanding the
officer's departure from the force."

The force detailed on its website 14 months of misconduct hearings of officers -
ranging in rank from community support officers to commander - over allegations
including "internet paedophile activity" and accessing the police national database
to spy on an ex-partner.Of the officers who faced disciplinary measures in 2012,
about 20 of them received criminal convictions, a Metropolitan Police spokeswoman
said.None of the officers are named but they include former Commander Ali Dizaei -
the highest ranked officer on the list - who was sacked in May 2012 after being
jailed for perverting the course of justice and misconduct in a public office over an
attack on a web designer.The tables reveal that a constable was fired last
September after being caught with child porn, while another was sacked for holding
an ex-partner's 10-year-old in a headlock.

A total of 115 officers and police staff were dismissed during the 14 months from
January 2012 while 87 resigned and 62 faced other forms of censure short of being
sacked. The publication of the data follows the lead of other forces around the
country, including South Yorkshire. The release of the figures by the force -
welcomed as step towards transparency for the police disciplinary system - followed
the scandal of Simon Harwood, an officer who quit the Met while facing a
misconduct panel but later rejoined with the slate wiped clean.

His disciplinary history came to light during investigations into the death of Ian
Tomlinson, a homeless man, who died after the officer struck him with a baton and
shoved him to the ground during the G20 protests in 2009. Mr Harwood was
cleared of manslaughter but sacked after a rare public misconduct hearing.

In February, Home Secretary Theresa May said a national register of sacked officers
would be set up to prevent them from being recruited by other forces. The force
said yesterday that it could not stop officers resigning if they were on restricted
duties but any suspended officer would have to get permission from Deputy
Commissioner Craig Mackey

Mr Mackey previously told London Assembly Green Party member Jenny Jones that
officers could only leave in "rare instants" because of cost considerations of keeping
them suspended. "Predominantly my line is, if they are due to go before a board
and it is a substantive case, they go before a board. The rules are very strict on
that," he said earlier this year.

Jules Carey, of Tuckers Solicitors, who represents the family of Ian Tomlinson as
they pursue a civil claim against the Met, welcomed the publication of figures but
criticised the high level of resignations.

"Often when complaints are rejected by a force they go on to succeed as a civil
claim in court," he said. "Until complaints are dealt with robustly by professional
standards departments, the forces will have to pick up the cost of compensating
victims of misconduct while the officers responsible can look forward to renewing
their careers in the private sector."

Scotland Yard said it will publish the figures every quarter. "The Metropolitan Police
Service is committed to delivering a professional service and we expect our
employees to behave professionally and with the utmost integrity at all times,
whether on or off duty," it said.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/scotland-yard-let-staff-resign-to-avoid-justice-8599739.html

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/83636-scotland-yard-let-staff-resign-to-avoid-justice-

happyuk

3rd May 2013, 12:04

CiderSomerset

I maintain that this whole thing with has-been celebrities and dead DJs is but a smokescreen. At best a distraction used to throw all of us off the scent. We keep hearing of being promised Rocks Lane arrests, but nothing materialises, but pervy old celebs (an understatement I know) there are a-plenty.

The time has long passed when we should any longer accept the reassurances of the police, justice, social care and politicians that these were/are isolated and unconnected incidents. What we have is a people that are a law unto themselves. A loosely organised but ruthless group of sex maniacs feeding their perversion by corrupting police, Council officials, Secret Court judges, and child psychiatrists, while at the same time infiltrating the care system on a member-get-member basis. This is where the UK the media should really be focussing, not Stuart Hall.

There are so many examples of this kind of infiltration I could not possibly list them all here. Here are some.

- In the 70s, Harriet Harman and husband Jack Dromey supported the Paedophile Information Exchange, later disbanded. Harman became Minister for Women and embroiled in the Secret Courts saga. She vigorously defended the secrecy, and then agreed to open the Courts to the media. Five years later she still hadn’t. Endless numbers of children were handed over to a Care Home system inflitrated by paedophiles.

- A prominent Plymouth Judge infamous for soft paedophile sentences (on one occasion letting two dangerous perverts skip bail) became the most senior Judge in Exeter.

- A campaigning MP gave Home Secretary Leon Brittan a file on the Richmond Council situation. It disappeared. In Wales ten years ago, a damning report about Welsh care homes was first of all covered up and then shredded. All but one copy escaped. Both the police and the cps have been studying it.

I agree with David Icke's take on the link between paedophilia and power.

People much higher up who protect the violent sexual deviance are doing so to remove any threats to their power. Guilty parties are known to the police but those entities who’ve known about this for decades are the most guilty of the lot.

Cidersomerset

3rd May 2013, 12:16

I maintain that this whole thing with has-been celebrities and dead DJs is but a smokescreen. At best a distraction used to throw all of us off the scent. We keep hearing of being promised Rocks Lane arrests, but nothing materialises, but pervy old celebs (an understatement I know) there are a-plenty.

Everything you say is right and has been said or inferred to on this thread....

Although many people are open to the possibility of Davids concepts, its still
ridiculed in the mainstream. Whether its Archonic or not the elites have
communicated with the 'Otherside' for thousands of years and have gone
to great lengths to keep royal bloodlines as pure as they can.

su4lKL-uX_Q

Published on 9 Feb 2013

http://www.davidicke.com
Saturn creates our false reality.The Matrix prison of illusion. The Archons/Reptilians
need it in order to create and maintain our false reality that is a manufactured
illusion. The Archons and Reptilians do not have our power of creativity and are not
co-creators having the power to create. They can only copy and mimic. The power
to create comes from us humans. We do not need a machine to create, we merely
need the belief that we can in order to release our power within.
The problem is that the reptilian mind control has taught us that we have no such
power and that we are products of random chance or powerless sinners before God.
We are birds that have been taught that it is better to walk because flying is
impossible and it is also heretical and blasphemous thinking.
The Reptilians have mind controlled us into believing that we have no spiritual
power.In the film used, Dark City, the Strangers Archons/Reptilians no longer need
the machine of Saturn to have the power to create. This is because they are
merging with the character John Murdock who has unlimited power, but he has no
memory of any power until he is forced to remember through a replacement
injection. He then remembers and begins to believe in himself as he releases the
power. He now wakes-up from his spiritual slumber. The Archons are no match for
this new Neo (The Matrix) and his power within.Another main structure is a special
Archon technology on the etheric plane. They are projection chambers that project
certain images / emotional states that are not ours on our outer auric membrane.
So other people feel this projected image and not our true state. This is the source
of most conflicts / projections in human relationships. When this technology is
removed, people will suddenly find much more harmony in their relationships.*

The Archons seem to often show senseless behaviour. They get a thrill from
causing human emotions like fear and from creating confusion. It is implied that the
Archons feed energetically of human emotions because they do not have any
emotions themselves, thus do not have any emotional energy of their own
Song - Alience by The Anunnaki

Cidersomerset

5th May 2013, 10:03

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BBC man called 'The Pimp' picked up girls for Stuart Hall - and filmed them having
sexStudio floor manager Peter Barlow lured victims with fake auditions Television
bosses 'knew it was going on but did nothing'

By Ben Ellery

PUBLISHED: 00:19, 5 May 2013 | UPDATED: 00:39, 5 May 2013

A BBC manager nicknamed ‘The Pimp’ helped to procure women for Stuart Hall and
filmed the TV star having sex with them in his dressing room, it was claimed last
night.A former studio worker has told The Mail on Sunday that floor manager Peter
Barlow had them brought to the BBC’s Manchester studios for fake auditions.
The source claims that the women were lured to a room where Barlow filmed them
having sex with the It’s A Knockout host.

Golden boy: Stuart Hall pictured while working as a presenter for the Look North news programme

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The new accusations increase pressure for an inquiry, similar to the Jimmy Savile
investigation, into how bosses turned a blind eye while Hall molested girls at BBC
studios.The latest incidents were said to have happened in Hall’s dressing room,
next to the office of news editor Tom German and regional manager Ray Colley.
On one occasion it is claimed Hall and Barlow even approached the studio’s
production team to have the films processed.

More...
AMANDA PLATELL: Just how on earth did Stuart Hall fool his poor family?
Stuart Hall's younger brother was cleared of indecently assaulting 13-year-old girl

The allegations echo an account of one of his victims, Susan Harrison, who told how
when she was 16 the presenter picked her out at a school speech day and
persuaded her to visit him at the BBC on the pretext of recording a song. He later
got her drunk and molested her in his car. Detectives believe other BBC staff may
have helped Hall, now 83, trick girls seeking fame into visiting him. Last night the
former employee said the abuse took place at the studio for regional news
programme Look North from the late 1970s until the show moved offices in 1981.

Shamed: Broadcaster Stuart Hall pictured outside Preston Crown Court on Thursday

The ex-staff member said: ‘It was an open secret that Stuart Hall used to film sex
videos in his dressing room with women procured for him by Peter Barlow. Peter’s
nickname was The Pimp and he was very close to Stuart – he used to drive him to
Look North and It’s A Knockout.‘Peter would tell women to come into the Look
North studio for an audition and the pair would pretend to film the women while
they presented the weather forecast.

‘Afterwards they would take them to Stuart’s dressing room and Peter would film
him having sex with them. ‘On one occasion they approached the processing team
to process a video but they point-blank refused, they wouldn’t go near it.

‘Women would come by Stuart’s dressing room on a daily basis.

'Stuart liked the women aged about 18. He would meet them on It’s A Knockout,
some of them were score girls, or he also picked up the pageant winners from
beauty contests he used to judge.

‘Everyone knew what was going on but no one did anything about it because he
was the golden boy. As far as the bosses were concerned, as long as he read the
news he could do what he liked. It was total mismanagement by the BBC.

'Next to Stuart’s dressing room were the offices of Tom German and Ray Colley.
They weren’t stupid and it was obvious these women were having sex in Stuart’s
office. This all needs to be revealed, as it was with Savile.

‘I felt sick when I found out Stuart had been abusing underage girls. It’s awful
because we used to visit schools around Lancashire and get children to take part in
cookery competitions.

'It’s awful now to think back and know that probably helped him do those
disgusting things.

‘There were odd things about Stuart. We used to collect tins for charity.

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Presenter: Stuart Hall pictured in 1968. Detectives believe that other BBC staff may
have helped Hall trick girls into visiting him

'I remember getting some salmon and Stuart kept it because he said the
pensioners we were collecting for wouldn’t know what to do with it. It’s little things
like that that really tell you about someone’s character.’

MPs and Hall’s victims have called on the BBC to investigate his behaviour after he
admitted assaulting 13 girls, the youngest of whom was nine, between 1967 and
1986. In the aftermath of his guilty pleas, it emerged the married father of two told
staff that girls he took to his dressing room were his ‘nieces’.

Peter Barlow died aged 86 in 2007 and Tom German died aged 66 in 1992.

When approached by The Mail on Sunday, Mr Colley, 83, said: ‘While Stuart Hall is
awaiting sentence it would be inappropriate to comment.’

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Honour: Hall pictured receiving the OBE for his services to broadcasting and charity last year

The BBC has no plans to set up a separate inquiry into Hall, saying it has passed
any information on to the Dame Janet Smith Review, which is looking at practices
at the BBC during the years of Savile’s abuse.However, last night Conservative MP
Rob Wilson said: ‘My gut instinct is the BBC are not using the Smith Review to get
to the truth and are instead using it to do the minimum necessary to carry on as
before.’

A spokesman for The National Association for People Abused in Childhood said: ‘It’s
disgusting the BBC gave Hall unfettered opportunities to carry out his abuse.

‘The BBC owes it to his victims to open a new inquiry that can scrutinise his
behaviour and the colleagues who may have helped him.’

Hall and the BBC are facing potential compensation payouts after six victims
contacted solicitor Alan Collins, a partner at the law firm Pannone who is also
pursuing the BBC over the Savile scandal.The BBC said: ‘All allegations that have
been made to the BBC in relation to Stuart Hall have been passed on to the police
or the Dame Janet Smith Review.’

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5th May 2013, 10:13

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5 May 2013 Last updated at 10:40

Nigel Evans denies rape claim as 'completely false'Nigel Evans Nigel Evans was
elected deputy speaker of the House of Commons in 2010

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Gay MP 'didn't want to live lie'

Deputy House of Commons Speaker Nigel Evans has denied allegations against him
as "completely false", after being arrested on suspicion of rape and sexual assault.
The Conservative MP, 55, has been questioned about alleged attacks on two men in
their 20s, the BBC understands.But in a statement to journalists on Sunday, Mr
Evans expressed his "sense of incredulity at these events".

His solicitor said he did not intend to quit as deputy speaker or as an MP.

Lancashire Police said on Saturday that a 55-year-old man had been arrested and
questioned all day by officers.The alleged offences took place between July 2009
and March 2013 in Pendleton, Lancashire, they said.

Mr Evans has been bailed until 19 June.

'Obviously shocked'

Addressing reporters outside his home, he said: "Yesterday I was interviewed by
police concerning two complaints - one of which dates back four years. He
added: "The complaints are completely false and I cannot understand why they
have been made."He went on to thank police for their sensitive handling of the
matter, as well as colleagues, friends and members of the public who
had "expressed their support and, like me, a sense of incredulity at these events".

Prime Minister David Cameron has been made aware of the arrest, it is understood.
Defence Secretary Philip Hammond told the BBC he had been "shocked" by the
allegations about Mr Evans."I know Nigel well, I have known him for years. I'm
obviously as shocked as everybody else is," he told BBC One's Andrew Marr Show.
Mr Hammond added it could be "very difficult" for the MP to continue as deputy
speaker while the matter was being investigated."I think that is essentially a
question the speaker will have to consider," he said.

'Shell-shocked'

Mr Evans, MP for Ribble Valley since 1992, was elected one of three Commons
deputy speakers three years ago.In more than two decades in Parliament, the
Swansea-born MP - who came out as gay to a Sunday newspaper in 2010 - has
held some senior posts in the party.From 1999 to 2001, he was vice-chairman of
the Conservative Party. Then, when Iain Duncan Smith became party leader in 2001
, he was promoted to shadow Welsh secretary - a post he held for two years.
Michael Ranson, chairman of the Ribble Valley Conservative Association, said
people in the constituency were "completely shell-shocked".

"He is a very popular MP and a very good constituency MP. He's given assistance to
a lot of his constituents over many years," he told Sky News.

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Cidersomerset

5th May 2013, 12:03

MIRROR ONLINE........

Nigel Evans: Shockwaves reverberate around Westminster as Tory MP is arrested
on suspicion of rape and sexual assault

5 May 2013 00:01

Exclusive: The 55-year-old politician is accused of raping a man and sexually
assaulting a second man between July 2009 and March this year

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Nigel Evans Nigel Evans

Shockwaves reverberated around Westminster yesterday as news of senior Tory
Nigel Evans' arrest emerged.

The Deputy Speaker of the House of Commons was held on suspicion of raping one
man and sexually assaulting another between July 2009 and March this year. Both
are in their 20s.A Whitehall source said PM David Cameron and Mr Evans’ boss,
Speaker John Bercow, had both been informed.Detectives swooped on the MP’s
cottage in the Lancashire village of Pendleton yesterday morning.Forensic teams
searched the property, where the alleged attacks are said to have been
committed. Officers specialising in sex offences quizzed the former Tory Party vice-
chairman at Preston police station.He was freed last night after about 12 hours and
was driven away through the police station’s rear entrance.

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5th May 2013, 12:27

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BBC man called 'The Pimp' picked up girls for Stuart Hall - and filmed them having
sexStudio floor manager Peter Barlow lured victims with fake auditions Television
bosses 'knew it was going on but did nothing'

By Ben Ellery

PUBLISHED: 00:19, 5 May 2013 | UPDATED: 00:39, 5 May 2013

A BBC manager nicknamed ‘The Pimp’ helped to procure women for Stuart Hall and
filmed the TV star having sex with them in his dressing room, it was claimed last
night.A former studio worker has told The Mail on Sunday that floor manager Peter
Barlow had them brought to the BBC’s Manchester studios for fake auditions.
The source claims that the women were lured to a room where Barlow filmed them
having sex with the It’s A Knockout host.

Golden boy: Stuart Hall pictured while working as a presenter for the Look North news programme

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The new accusations increase pressure for an inquiry, similar to the Jimmy Savile
investigation, into how bosses turned a blind eye while Hall molested girls at BBC
studios.The latest incidents were said to have happened in Hall’s dressing room,
next to the office of news editor Tom German and regional manager Ray Colley.
On one occasion it is claimed Hall and Barlow even approached the studio’s
production team to have the films processed.

More...
AMANDA PLATELL: Just how on earth did Stuart Hall fool his poor family?
Stuart Hall's younger brother was cleared of indecently assaulting 13-year-old girl

The allegations echo an account of one of his victims, Susan Harrison, who told how
when she was 16 the presenter picked her out at a school speech day and
persuaded her to visit him at the BBC on the pretext of recording a song. He later
got her drunk and molested her in his car. Detectives believe other BBC staff may
have helped Hall, now 83, trick girls seeking fame into visiting him. Last night the
former employee said the abuse took place at the studio for regional news
programme Look North from the late 1970s until the show moved offices in 1981.

Shamed: Broadcaster Stuart Hall pictured outside Preston Crown Court on Thursday

The ex-staff member said: ‘It was an open secret that Stuart Hall used to film sex
videos in his dressing room with women procured for him by Peter Barlow. Peter’s
nickname was The Pimp and he was very close to Stuart – he used to drive him to
Look North and It’s A Knockout.‘Peter would tell women to come into the Look
North studio for an audition and the pair would pretend to film the women while
they presented the weather forecast.

‘Afterwards they would take them to Stuart’s dressing room and Peter would film
him having sex with them. ‘On one occasion they approached the processing team
to process a video but they point-blank refused, they wouldn’t go near it.

‘Women would come by Stuart’s dressing room on a daily basis.

'Stuart liked the women aged about 18. He would meet them on It’s A Knockout,
some of them were score girls, or he also picked up the pageant winners from
beauty contests he used to judge.

‘Everyone knew what was going on but no one did anything about it because he
was the golden boy. As far as the bosses were concerned, as long as he read the
news he could do what he liked. It was total mismanagement by the BBC.

'Next to Stuart’s dressing room were the offices of Tom German and Ray Colley.
They weren’t stupid and it was obvious these women were having sex in Stuart’s
office. This all needs to be revealed, as it was with Savile.

‘I felt sick when I found out Stuart had been abusing underage girls. It’s awful
because we used to visit schools around Lancashire and get children to take part in
cookery competitions.

'It’s awful now to think back and know that probably helped him do those
disgusting things.

‘There were odd things about Stuart. We used to collect tins for charity.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/05/article-0-00053B3D00000C1D-759_634x415.jpg

Presenter: Stuart Hall pictured in 1968. Detectives believe that other BBC staff may
have helped Hall trick girls into visiting him

'I remember getting some salmon and Stuart kept it because he said the
pensioners we were collecting for wouldn’t know what to do with it. It’s little things
like that that really tell you about someone’s character.’

MPs and Hall’s victims have called on the BBC to investigate his behaviour after he
admitted assaulting 13 girls, the youngest of whom was nine, between 1967 and
1986. In the aftermath of his guilty pleas, it emerged the married father of two told
staff that girls he took to his dressing room were his ‘nieces’.

Peter Barlow died aged 86 in 2007 and Tom German died aged 66 in 1992.

When approached by The Mail on Sunday, Mr Colley, 83, said: ‘While Stuart Hall is
awaiting sentence it would be inappropriate to comment.’

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Honour: Hall pictured receiving the OBE for his services to broadcasting and charity last year

The BBC has no plans to set up a separate inquiry into Hall, saying it has passed
any information on to the Dame Janet Smith Review, which is looking at practices
at the BBC during the years of Savile’s abuse.However, last night Conservative MP
Rob Wilson said: ‘My gut instinct is the BBC are not using the Smith Review to get
to the truth and are instead using it to do the minimum necessary to carry on as
before.’

A spokesman for The National Association for People Abused in Childhood said: ‘It’s
disgusting the BBC gave Hall unfettered opportunities to carry out his abuse.

‘The BBC owes it to his victims to open a new inquiry that can scrutinise his
behaviour and the colleagues who may have helped him.’

Hall and the BBC are facing potential compensation payouts after six victims
contacted solicitor Alan Collins, a partner at the law firm Pannone who is also
pursuing the BBC over the Savile scandal.The BBC said: ‘All allegations that have
been made to the BBC in relation to Stuart Hall have been passed on to the police
or the Dame Janet Smith Review.’

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This is the first I've heard of the filming aspect. David Icke says the Stewart Hall case is a loner scapegoat hiding the systemic pedophilia. But if filming was going on, you have not just the abuser, but also the pimp, and most of all the viewers of these films. Who were they and how many are there?