The feeling of abduction?

[Poly Hedra]

Hello I haven't been around in a while, trying to deal with using a mobile phone after my laptop died. I'm in this thread because twice now I have had a strange experience. Basically I'm asleep or semi-conscious and I have this very intense feeling like I'm being abducted. It feels like I'm having a lucid dream. I'm being dragged by something, sucked. Its so strong. I become aware that something is trying to take me. I realise what is happening and fight it with all my physical and mental strength, I wake myself up. It feels so real. What do you think?

[Czarek]

Interesting. I've never had that feeling. All I get is a strange mark on my left arm and pain, the kind you get after a flu shot.

[ghostrider]

could be your vibrations rasing and your spirit-body is trying to leave the physical body. Say this to yourself over and over before you fall asleep, ( My mind will stay awake , when my body falls asleep. ) ...

[Jake]

The mind/awake-body/asleep state is a platform for many types of unusual events. I suspect that you are experiencing the precursor sensations that go along with Astral Projection, or OBE. However, I also believe that the mechanics of an 'astral abduction' would be very much the same. The pineal gland holds the key to understanding the 'mind/wake-body/asleep' states, and our understanding of the multidimentional reality that we exist in. Whenever we sleep, we always go through these transitions, we just don't normally notice. I suspect that you are waking up into an Astral experience that is already in progress!!! Jake.

[Poly Hedra]

The astral body suggestion does kind of make sense. Thanks for your responses. So I'm becoming aware at a moment when I'm leaving my body. Interesting.

[Finefeather]

This might help...


3. I want to just mention another phenomena which some have classed as attack or rape or sexual harassment in some form or other and blamed it on some 'evil' entity. When you first enter the lower astral and usually when you have not yourself initiated it, like in a spontaneous occurrence, some strange things can happen. This happened to me on quite a few occasions before getting the message. You are just out of your body but still think you are in it, you become aware of someone or something trying to fiddle with your sex organs or at your anal area and you immediately think that this something or somebody is trying to have sex with you, you become quite panic stricken and start to struggle, now because you are in a partial disconnected state you are unable to move and your mind starts imagining that you are been held captive and been sexually molested. Well the truth of the matter here is that when you finally are back in your body and you start rationally thinking about it you will find that your clothing or blanket was too tight or was causing pressure in these area, or you have settled your body in some strange way, and because of your body/mind connection and the paralysis AND your state of mind, you mistook this as an external threat and attack. This is in my mind the real cause of the majority of so called alien attacks at bedtime. The mind is a powerful creator of events and if you are not emotionally clear you will not believe what it can create for you, right inside your bedroom.
The casual OBE can be quite scary if you are not aware of these things. I know of many where this has never happened, but this is only because their minds and emotions were more disciplined.

[Jenci]

Hello I haven't been around in a while, trying to deal with using a mobile phone after my laptop died. I'm in this thread because twice now I have had a strange experience. Basically I'm asleep or semi-conscious and I have this very intense feeling like I'm being abducted. It feels like I'm having a lucid dream. I'm being dragged by something, sucked. Its so strong. I become aware that something is trying to take me. I realise what is happening and fight it with all my physical and mental strength, I wake myself up. It feels so real. What do you think?


William Buhlman explains that some people do feel like they are being abducted when they go out of body. He talks about how the process can feel in the videos posted in this thread http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47841-Adventures-Beyond-the-Body

Jeanette

[Arrowwind]

, I wake myself up. It feels so real. What do you think?

I've had a similar feeling one time related to demon possession. The demon was trying to possess me. A battle ensued. I won... . but not withtout the help of the light of christ, which was unsusal as I am not a Christain. If something is trying to suck you out I would beware. Meditate on it. Try to discern what is going on and then call in for support and protection until you understand how to access your source of energy to protect yourself.

Your source of energy and game plan is within you, you just have to become of aware of it... Soliciting help will help you to find it within yourself. It may not be something trying to take over, but it could be. Demons or other entities seek physical bodies that are not well protected, whose aura is not strong, those who drink too much, use drugs, are vulnerable due to disease, due to abuse, due to false religions, due to psychological weakness,,, many things can attract them. Seek ways to fortify yourself in prayer, meditiation, physical exercise, grounding exercises, calling assistence from higher beings, from Christ, or other great spiritual teachers. In my routine experience of leaving my body I never feel like I am being sucked out... nor out of control. It always feels integrated. It is merely a shifting of gears like in a very good car. Automatic and spontaneous for the most part. I have had a crash landing back into my body a couple of times and sometimes accompanited by the crash sound of a thunderbolt in my head... but the going out has never been problematic. The sucking sensation you describe is a bit worrisome to me and I sense that something is not right on some level.

In all spiritual training I have received I have been given instruction on self protection, wether my teacher was a conventional Christian, Church or Religious Science, Native American Medicine Man all gave instruction in self protection and it has worked very well considering all the strange events and places Ive been. Once when my fields were down, an invasion attempted to take me. I had to call for help. Ive not had problems since for I no longer allow my fields to go down.

[Jake]

The astral body suggestion does kind of make sense. Thanks for your responses. So I'm becoming aware at a moment when I'm leaving my body. Interesting.

Yes, I would consider that the most obvious type of phenomenon when in the state between waking and sleeping. Becoming aware of leaving your body can be quite an exhillirating thing. It can be quite scary, if you let it. Try and relax into the sensations, and always express joy and wonderment. (If you can,,) Good onya,,, Jake.

[GloriousPoetry]

Meditate on white gardenia flowers.....in your vision surround yourself with the scent and color of these flowers.

[Maia Gabrial]

I've given myself a post suggestion that if I'm abducted that I leave myself a clue. Several times now, I've awakened to having my night clothes on backwards or inside ouit. Several days ago, my necklace was tied in a knot that took me awhile to undo. I hear and see beings in my room. Some good. Some hostile.

My big question is what's up with the long needles? They only use the tips to insert in the body.... It's spooky!

[Tesseract]

Dear conec – I can’t believe it but you just described what seems like an identical experience that I had a few weeks back. Here is my account.

All I know is that I was lying in bed, in a state somewhere between sleep and awake, there is a word for that state but I do not recall it. I sleep on a mattress on the floor. Well, what happened was this. I felt two things very very clearly. This was not a question of interpretation, this was pure, un-blurred perception. Crystal clear.

I sensed that something was being carried out – or more specifically, preparations were underway for something to be carried out. Some task, some kind of operation. I felt this very strongly – felt is not the right word. I simply knew it was happening.
The other aspect of what I felt, or knew, so strongly was that there was a presence, very within reach. Close by spatially. And there was definitely more than one, I would say now, that there were between two and four of them. These were the beings who were preparing to carry out something or other.

You must understand, that as I became aware of this, I quickly entered a state where I was quite aware (not sleepy or dream like) and in command of my own thoughts. I lay there for a short time, perceiving what was going on about me. Kind of like you lay there as a dentist does his thing getting stuff ready for his procedure (not that I feel anything medical/surgical was going on here). I do not know what was being prepared for, but I did know that I was central to it. I can not tell you strongly enough that I felt intent above all else. Intent. These beings had a purpose in being there.

Now, I did not feel terrified, I certainly did not feel that these were in any way malicious beings, or that what was being planned was malevolent in any way. On the other hand, I also did not feel any real kindness, benevolence from these beings. I do feel, thinking about it now, that a part of what they were doing did involve taking some measures which were to ensure my welfare in whatever was about to take place – but it was a cold kind of consideration. Better than nothing I suppose.
I lay there as at least two of these beings were really quite engaged – I do not know what they were doing – but I was being completely ignored. Completely. I felt like I was perceiving them perhaps without them being aware that I was doing so. Otherwise, they must have just been trusting me to stay calm. There was a technology involved in what I felt was to be attempted. I felt that the two beings that were closest, as I seem to recall it, were doing something rather detailed and technical – almost hunched over some kind of device, working away, possibly in coordination and supervision of one or two other beings a little further away. This wasn’t quite a ‘snap your fingers’ and we’re done affair, there was a delicacy and a procedure.

At some point I began to feel what I can only call unease. Fear of the unknown crept in. I did give them some time, as I did not distrust them. I was not scared of the beings – but I knew that what they were getting ready to do, involving myself, I was unsure of the nature of. Unsure, of what the consequences would be. Impatience crept in too – really it was anxiousness. I half thought, even as things were still playing out, is this the start of a journey? I seemed to sense preparation for a transportation of some kind. Or, perhaps it was to be a revelation of some kind, or entry into a different state of being. I was unsure, and my unease began to grow more and more.

Then, I took charge and communicated to them that ‘I’m not ready for this’. I didn’t say this verbally, it was purely telepathic, that really is the best way to describe it, and I let them know with all assertion– and it was as easy to affect this communication as it is now to speak out loud. I thought it out loud to them, you might say, the imperative command to stop was conveyed. They clearly got my message clearly and they got it without delay. When I ‘said’ this to them it was the only time their attention turned to me, although I did not register any surprise in them that I had spoken up – again I do not know if they actually knew that I was consciously perceiving them at this time. I do not know that they stopped in their tracks because I asked, or because I was not meant to be perceptive during that part of the operation – I think the former is more likely. I spent a second or three waiting, perhaps worrying a little, what their response would be. But, as I said they stopped. And thereupon I transitioned out of this state into the normal state that we all exist in, and I sat up, alone. The episode was finished. The room was light, the air clean and cool. I felt fine. I did feel slightly tantalised, slightly relieved. I felt that one day I would be ready to go through whatever it was. I asked myself if I should have just gone through with it there and then.
And, I did wonder if what had just happened was really what it had seemed like. Could it just have been a dream? My logical mind was obliged to consider the possibility. I still consider it now. The only certainty is uncertainty. I do believe that something extraordinary really did transpire – whether or not the beings and intent were real, or just projections from my inner imagination. I really was in a highly unusual state of perception and control. It was a higher state.

About the beings. I felt that they were tall, even though I did not see them directly. It is like trying to describe someone to the side of you without actually turning your gaze directly to them. You know their presence but you do not really see them. I feel that they were, ultimately, material beings like us, at least 6 ft tall, maybe taller. They were not bulky. I hate to say it but you could describe their frame as being not un-alien like. I did sense the colour grey, and that their heads were at least human size but probably larger. I can’t say much more than that.

This happened a few weeks ago, I don’t remember how long ago exactly. A couple of times I thought about it as I lay in bed. Once, a couple of weeks ago, I may have briefly entered that state again, but it was very weak, not to be compared with what I have described here.

You can imagine how my mind was blown when I read the post here on Avalon that someone else had experienced the same thing. If I had of wrote a short description, I could have wrote what the OP did. I would just not use the word abduction because this word contains negative connotations, and as I said I did not sense any overt malevolence here. And in a way, it would have been with my consent if I had just let it all happen. Actually, it may not even have had anything to do with abduction – I can’t know, because I put a stop to whatever was about to unfold. Incidentally, after visiting Avalon for a year or so, I joined so I could reply to this thread. I have meant to join but never got around to it until now. Being un-gregarious I have not rushed in, but I’m here now.

Funny, knowing I was going to post this on Avalon to reply to the OP, I went through the account in my head a few days ago – very clearly and easily, thinking what I would write. But tonight, when I got to typing, I had all sorts of trouble. The memory seemed distant, I felt distracted. It was hard to get coherent sentences down. But I managed to get through that, and it all came back, and I think that I have given as good a testimony as I can provide.

I read some of the replies to your original message. I would just say, be careful about making an abstract or speculative interpretation of what you experienced. My experience was very clear. Was it an out of body experience... without reading the literature I am in ignorance here, I am still thinking about this. I was not floating about the room and I never saw my own body - not that I am saying this is always what happens when one has an OBE. It did happen to my grandfather once - another story. It’s interesting though, I am attracted to aspects of this possibility. But, for me the salient features of this episode were the intent and the presence. If it was an out of body experience then that would seemingly be incidental, perhaps enabling my perception, but still incidental. The big question is what was awaiting me had I chosen not to bring a halt to the whole operation – and who were the beings? It still blows my mind that someone else experienced this at about the same time and posted it on just about the only forum I visit on the internet. Thanks.