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Tony
19th October 2012, 08:23
A change in our vibration.

Let's say we have a natural vibrational number - our perfect inner peace resonating at a certain frequency. When we sit, we just sit, when we eat, we just eat.

That works for a moment, then we get busy, wondering what we are going to do or not do next.

Every time we dislike something, or desire something, we move away from this unique vibration
of perfect stillness. (I see this number as zero, but you might see it a differently) If we are constantly moved by likes and dislikes, then we would be out of synch, most of the time. Our likes and dislikes merely reflect the world around us, as everyone is reacting to something!

Instead of waiting for a 'magical energy' will come to put 'you right', maybe recognise that you are 'alright' already, at a perfect vibration. All we have to do is stop reacting and holding onto that reaction. We are like gongs banging all the time, saying, “Look I'm here!” “I don't like them.” “I'd like you to like me.”

Our past actions and reactions have given us the life we have now. We are here to realise the truth about our true nature, most of that is to do with 'undoing'...clearing the debris!

This is where meditation comes in, it is not doing anything- merely noting, and everything clears.

Our true nature is not a blank state, it is clarity, crystal clear. Meditation is part of the process of clearing the mind, but it is not the object. Clearing the mind of all thoughts is just mental gymnastics.

The purpose of meditation is to become familiar with clarity, and the awareness of those thoughts. In fact the thoughts and the clarity cannot be separated. By virtue of the clarity, thoughts arise, by virtue of thoughts, clarity is known.

In the beginning meditation is stilling the mind of coarse thoughts, but it is not blank. Blank is what the Masters of old called, ignorance, it is missing the knowing aspect. Then we come to realise the subtle concepts in the mind – the feeling of “I”. It is there that the real meditation begins.

The only change that is needed is to stop banging the gong. The silence after the gong has stopped ringing is truly beautiful. The only reason to bang the gong again, is to wake us up to the silence.

By virtue of the gong, silence is noticed, by virtue of thoughts, stillness is noticed.

'Merely being' is our finest vibration, we don't need any elaboration.







All the best,
Tony

Tony
19th October 2012, 13:39
Being fair.

If we spend our precious time condemning others for their beliefs, this is merely part of the hate-traffic-jam going on in the world. Everyone has a right to choose what suits them, and in their our time they may refine that choice. I know I have, several times.

Spirituality, religions, science, Arts and crafts, socialising, sports, reading, are all ways of getting to know oneself. My path was Sherlock Holmes, Art, fencing, philosophies, singing, and a lot of meditation, and analysing. For others it will be different. Some of us take a longer route, others take a shorter route.

Constantly condemning religion is childishness beyond belief. Every religion has it's ritual side, it's philosophical side, it's esoteric side: (intended for or likely to be understood by only a small number of people with a specialized knowledge or interest. Even then there are deeper levels of understanding. It all depends on the capacity, interest and willingness to investigate, for each individual.

When I was young I wondered, “If I could prove that God did not exist...would I?”
It's not up to me, it's not my belief. If it helps them, it's fine. Like the Buddha said, “Can't say there is, can't say there isn't!” When you become enlightened, you will know, in your own way.

Life is about realising happiness and sharing it.




Tony

Billy
19th October 2012, 16:10
A change in our vibration.


The only change that is needed is to stop banging the gong. The silence after the gong has stopped ringing is truly beautiful. The only reason to bang the gong again, is to wake us up to the silence.

By virtue of the gong, silence is noticed, by virtue of thoughts, stillness is noticed.

'Merely being' is our finest vibration, we don't need any elaboration.







All the best,
Tony

Someone said a long time ago.
Quote:
If I speak in the languages of humans and angels but have no love, I have become a reverberating gong or a clashing cymbal.
End Quote:

Love is the answer.

Peace

Tony
19th October 2012, 16:23
A change in our vibration.


The only change that is needed is to stop banging the gong. The silence after the gong has stopped ringing is truly beautiful. The only reason to bang the gong again, is to wake us up to the silence.

By virtue of the gong, silence is noticed, by virtue of thoughts, stillness is noticed.

'Merely being' is our finest vibration, we don't need any elaboration.







All the best,
Tony

Someone said a long time ago.
Quote:
If I speak in the languages of humans and angels but have no love, I have become a reverberating gong or a clashing cymbal.
End Quote:

Love is the answer.

Peace



Abso-bloody-lutely!

Tony
19th October 2012, 16:27
When you find happiness, real happiness, nothing can shake it, and you do not feel the need to shake anyone else! It surprised me how 'ordinary' it is. One does not need intellect or belief, one does not have to be wise, it is the result of wisdom, just being. Wisdom is just the simplification of everything, and you can call it what you will.

However what is not so easy is, explaining ...just being! One can provide a few steps. The reason one may be moved to explain or to share the experience is so others don't get mislead into believing it is a life style change, and you have to be a certain way. You can just be as you are, warts and all.

We still have some subtle 'stuff' (fixated ideas) to work through, which causes us to get angry, but that is where being kind comes in, to ourselves and others. Non aggression is very important to create space....to experiment with being. And yes, people will get angry at us for being happy!

One of the reasons we may use a certain ancient spiritual language, is that it is complete in its descriptions and methods. One can always use one's own words, but it is just like reinventing the wheel, I should know!

What we are talking about is the expression of 'being', and that is an individual thing. We do not all come from the same place. However “birds of a feather stick together”, so there will be fellow travellers who feel the same way....more or less!

It is all an individual journey of uncovering, but we can help and support one another while we are taming the monkey mind.

This world seems to full of sophisticated monkeys.

Dorjezigzag
19th October 2012, 17:57
I did enjoy your post, I must say though after a good meditation I do enjoy a good gong bath, like diving into an ocean of sound, very restorative.

The video cannot recapture the vibration of the real gong but you get the idea

40x53vod_Tc

GloriousPoetry
19th October 2012, 18:35
"Spaces."..intervals of schematic time finding correlating moments, adjusting themselves to motions in consciousness untouched causations in a world governed by effects, while remaining present to an unforeseen future fabricating itself.

nomadguy
20th October 2012, 05:25
The only reason to bang the gong again, is to wake us up to the silence.

Ah that's quite wonderful, pure poetry to my senses.
I listen to talks by Alan Watts a bit, it reminds me of how he speaks on Zen.

S-L
20th October 2012, 15:18
Hey Tony,

I appreciated this post, thank you. You explain things with a pleasant simplicity. I wanted to share a technique that I've used which seems to concord with what you're talking about. Sitting quietly in meditation, visualize a dark pool of water. Every thought, every movement, every "gong", creates a ripple in the pool. The idea is to maintain the dark pool at a perfect equilibrium. Eventually the idea of the dark pool needs to be dropped, but I find sitting with this technique to be a quick way to still myself.

But as you've stated, this is perhaps just the first part. How do you suggest coming into touch with "the feeling of 'I'"? Is it simply a question of sitting in meditation long enough?

Tony
20th October 2012, 18:21
Hey Tony,

I appreciated this post, thank you. You explain things with a pleasant simplicity. I wanted to share a technique that I've used which seems to concord with what you're talking about. Sitting quietly in meditation, visualize a dark pool of water. Every thought, every movement, every "gong", creates a ripple in the pool. The idea is to maintain the dark pool at a perfect equilibrium. Eventually the idea of the dark pool needs to be dropped, but I find sitting with this technique to be a quick way to still myself.

But as you've stated, this is perhaps just the first part. How do you suggest coming into touch with "the feeling of 'I'"? Is it simply a question of sitting in meditation long enough?



Dear S-L,

Good question...great question! Poor answer coming up.

There are two stages to the feeling of “I”. The first is 'being' aware of the stillness. Then 'being' aware of the awareness. That 'being' aware or 'being' aware of awareness is the “I”, the feeling of existence, an observer... 'I' am 'aware' of awareness. That is a subtle stage, and advanced.

However, there is a very subtle stage, beyond the 'being' aware, and that is 'pure awareness'.
Here, there is no 'being' aware. There is just 'awareness', or 'being'.

You notice that if there is just 'being' or just 'awareness', that is non-duality...it is very subtle. Previously, 'being' was being something – being 'aware', which is a duality.

We could say that 'being' aware is at a consciousness level, a relative level, whereas 'pure being' or 'pure awareness' is at Essence level, an absolute level.

What happens is that we oscillate between these two states. In a twenty minute meditation session, we probably only spend two minutes in 'pure being'!

In fact we cannot say that the absolute level is a state, as it is beyond any state. This is a very subtle business, so it takes time to experience clearly, and clarity is what it is all about.

Another word we could use for 'awareness' is 'knowingness'. So what we are is 'Pure Knowingness”.
There is absolutely nothing going on. It is just a clear mirror. The fun starts when we start to express this 'Pure knowingness'. That's the love bit!

Oh, and there's one more thing...the dust on the mirror. That has to be cleaned off! This dust is the fixated ideas we cling to: a sort of imprint in the mind\consciousness. It colours everything we see, and sometimes it's called karma. Karma is not a punishment, it's just 'our' past reactions presenting itself...again!

Every time we react, we add more dust.
Every time we do not react, the dust loosens.
When we react, we merely hold onto the dust.
Enlightenment is said to occur when the mirror is clear...forever!

We could say there are two “I”s...first nature (natural) and second nature (acquired mental idea).
It's like sitting on a hot stove, the second nature says,“Oh! That's hot! Or that's a red car!”
The first nature know it already.

Our acquired nature No2. has to identify, name, and react, and has a sense of time about it.
Our natural nature No1. is immediate, has pure presence...and just gets to body off the stove, and leaves the car alone. There is no sense of time.




It's good to know what we are looking for,
Tony

Tony
21st October 2012, 10:40
When the vibration of water is increased, water becomes steam.
When the vibration of water is decreased, water becomes ice.

When the vibration of the mind is increased, the mind becomes turmoil and agitated.
When the vibration of the mind is decreased, the mind becomes dull and sleepy.


The point of meditation is to being the mind into perfect balance.
Not too tight, not too loose.


We run quite perfectly a little + or – from zero,
more than that and we get confused.

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