Dr Deagle Show 2012/10/03 - "We Are Getting Very Close to The Times of Troubles"

[Mu2143]

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[gooty64]

That video of Mr. Deagle is worse than channeling, imho.

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[Kryztian]

I watched one Dr. Deagle video where he described an elaborate scenario and how we would all be taken into slaughterhouses and FEMA camps soon. A woman asked when this would happen and he replied possibly in the next 12 months, but definitely within the next two years. I then I thought: "and this video is old, there is probably less time now!" and looked when the video was uploaded - it was in 2007.

Also while watching it, feeling helpless as he paints a picture of New World Order doom and gloom and getting super depressed, a woman asks him "What's the best way I can kill myself be." to which I burst into laughter, as I realized he was taking me down the same path of helplessness and fear.

I don't doubt that Deagle has some interesting information, but this guy has an agenda. He wants to turn us all into frightened-gun-toting-paranoid-underground-bunker-dwelling militant individuals. I think the only part of that which challenges the dark powers-that-be is the "individual" part.

[spiritguide]

Beware of false prophets! Discernment is vital in these times of deceit. Preferred is the statement of facts along with guidance to the empirical proof so one can decide or debate the conclusion.

[Mutchie]

21/12/12 is 2 months away and im wandering were the maya right ... has patrick Geryl really decoded some of the dresden codex they say we are headed for either severe sun storms or a pole shift which really could be already started i mean if nothing happens all these past civilisations are going to look real stupid ....do the world goverments know what is coming what do you guys think ?

[Mu2143]

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[Kryztian]

Mu2143, yes you are right about warning people about the out come. The dark powers that be have probably canceled many devious actions because "someone saw this coming" and it was just too obvious.

But there is a way to do it - not spreading fear and hysteria. Next time you warn people, they will accuse you of crying wolf based on your previous failed prophesies of doom.

It's good to spread information and facts and even sprinkle it with a degree of intelligent speculation. But to weave it all into a dark fantasy of death and destruction is irresponsible to the truth and to the people you are telling "the truth" to.

[avid]

Charlatan Deagle - the fast-talking ideosphere attraction - enough already!!! ;-)

[Kristin]

Before anyone tosses their hat on the Dr. Bill Deagle table, perhaps a little research on the man himself would be wise.

http://www.christianissues.com/deagle.html
http://swallowingthecamel.blogspot.ca/2008/02/dr_27.html

Also, this may be of interest to some: "Turning his back on the fundie roots that got him where he is today, Deagle now says that Christ was not divine. The myth of Christ was invented by the Luciferian Catholic Church."

Personally, I would take care not to overtly attack any religious practice. We have a right to choose if and how we worship God. I found the OP to be extremist in nature.

From the Heart,
Kristin

[Mu2143]

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[apollo41]

deagles full of s..t?
check who he really works for?

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[avid]

I would really check out 'Dr Deagle' - and follow his 'money'. If he is a ploy - a very clever one, perhaps he promotes real problems and fear, without resolving any issues. I once tried to buy some of his 'health products' which came to nothing, as I had issues with some of their claims! I asked for provenance.
I suspect Deagle is a 'disinfo' chap, and whatever has happened in his 'afterlife' on non-disinfo I would still take with a giant pinch of 'get-real' meds - and certainly not his!!!
I wholeheartedly hope that this man is not 'sacrificed' by the PTW, as I am sure his misconstrued ideas were planted, and he wholeheartedly believed them.

[ThePythonicCow]

I'm going to disagree with just about everyone who has posted here so far ... hopefully I can do so in an agreeable tone :).

Deagle made a little more sense to me toward the end of the video in the opening post of this thread ... though he sure doesn't mind pushing buttons when he sees (or creates) the chance to do so.

From what I can tell, all the major monotheistic religious organizations of the world have been captured by what I call the bastards in charge. I am thinking here of Judaism, Muslims, Catholics and Protestants, including the fundamental Christian churches that abound where I live, in North Texas. Even the more formalized "zerotheistic" (I word I just coined for atheist) leaders and groups get caught up in this man (or whomever those bastards in charge are) made strife. Then there is Satanism ... purportedly the church of said Bastards themselves.

This creates ample opportunity for Sturm und Drang (http://wordsmith.org/words/sturm_und_drang.html) on all sides. Fundamentalists of all stripes are riled up against each other, and would be peace keepers try to settle things down, thus inadvertently providing cover to the bastards in charge, who are behind most of this dissension, using it to gain further control over humanity.

It's like living in a house of mirrors ... after an earthquake. Lots of broken reflections and images, and lots of shards of glass. Some aspects of what seems like "reality" are just reflections, and vice versa. We each have a different and changing viewpoint on this changing and chaotic scene.

Stay calm, stay alert, keep plugging ... but accept that the anxiety level will be elevated, both in one's self and others, and don't get too anxious over that either.

I see in Deagle:

elements of both truth and likely disinformation,
clothed in a style that will doubtlessly offend some,
mixed with energy fueling the Sturm und Drang (http://wordsmith.org/words/sturm_und_drang.html).

It's not just Deagle I see this in. In my view, many of the spokes people for or to various groups or audiences display similar (or the supposed love and light antidote to same.) Many of those to whom I listen attentively seem this way to me, many of whom could not stand to be in the room with each other. Part of Bill Ryan's genius, if I may say so, is that he has been able to "be in the room", as an aware conversant and gentleman, with so many of these spokes people over the last few years.

The stories told are confusing, distracting and disruptive ... intentionally so.

Neither close one's eyes like an ostrich with its head in the sands, nor run around screaming the "Sky is Falling" like Chicken Little. Give gentle reassurance to the ostriches and Chicken Littles near by, and be accepting of one's self, when one finds even oneself doing such. But don't get carried away with false reassurances either ... we do indeed live in interesting times, and probably have been doing so for a long, long time.

[ghostrider]

getting close ? I would say we are smack in the middle of it now. louisiana sinking, the economy in the tank , the dollar worthless, uncertain leadership in the white house, earthquakes like crazy, and mass animals deaths still occuring every day, 40 mile per hour winds came from nowhere and caused a 30 car pile up here in tulsa, it looked like the world was on fire , so smokey outside. There is an uneasy feeling in the air. Lots of folks here in my area are fighting a cold they can't shake, some sort of sinus thing that hangs on for weeks , everyone's had it, or is getting it, or knows someone who just got over it. There is a home invasion every week here, and the home owners are packing and shot the intruders, the news reports them every week there's a new one. Two days ago a man pulled next to his ex wife's car and shot her in front of her kid, swat caught up to him the next day, was a big deal here. no need to wait for trouble ,it's here now....

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[sygh]

21/12/12 is 2 months away and im wandering were the maya right ... has patrick Geryl really decoded some of the dresden codex they say we are headed for either severe sun storms or a pole shift which really could be already started i mean if nothing happens all these past civilisations are going to look real stupid ....do the world goverments know what is coming what do you guys think ?

If we look at this sanely, if we keep our eyes open to what the earth is telling us, we have a pretty darned good idea of what we've been doing, and what we need to do in order to change directions. Maybe we cannot stop it but we can cushion it. It is simply not possible to continue to take from the world without reprocussions. I don't worry about what people do to one another any more other than if man took war to the next level; the issues between men has become to trite to me.

The only issue if importance I hold dear is learning how to become a good steward. Nothing is ours. Nothing. We are merely the managers, and as managers, we have done a lousy job. We can blame it on a few or take some personal responsibility for what we have done. If truely our eyes are wide open, that state of being calls for action from within one's self, not the pointing fingers, there are enough of those to go round the world. I hear a lot of people complaining about the state of world affairs but I'm not seeing a whole bunch of of people "doing" anything to make it better. Forgive me if this does not apply to the reader.

What I am asking all of us to do right now is to stop, look at the state, or country you live in and then define what you want your state to look like in 7 years, in 21 years, in 70 years. What is it you or I believe to be the most important, the most valuable assets going forward? And then after we have taken that time to claim it as a responsibility, the best thing to do would be to make ourselves accountable by pledging to reach an attainable goal toward that end, and then to repledge, and repledge, and so on, and so forth. And we must teach our children trhe simple ways of being close to the earth. Further, we should share our visions with others in our common areas (cities). Foremost, we are out of balance with the world, not the other way around.

The fish and the animals are of paramount importance, and if we cannot see that and be the zoologists we must be, and should have always been, then let the lavas flow, let the wars continue.



Peace and love to all.

Sygh (Robin Mead)

[sygh]

P.s.
Islam is not the enemy, socialism is not the enemy, not even capitalism is the enemy; the enemy resides within each and every one of us.

[ThePythonicCow]

Islam is not the enemy, socialism is not the enemy, not even capitalism is the enemy; the enemy resides within each and every one of us.

The enemy has hooks within us ... but we are not the enemy.

[avid]

....potentially;-)

[ThePythonicCow]

....potentially;-)

good point :)

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[norman]

I think all daily workloads are bad for truth telling. Deagle has to do a show a day and so do a lot of the most high profile folks out there ( obviously ).

I'd suggest to Deagle the same thing I'd suggest to all of them.

"Take a break away from the microphone ( a lengthy one ) and come back when you've rebalanced yourself".

[sygh]

You think? try to tell them the truth about that there religion is the most Satanic of all and see if they are your enemy or not

The most satanic of all? The most satanic of all religions would be the worshiping of Satan, would it not?

I know what you mean. I won't sway your view, I'll just say every religion has had it's "satanic" period, including Christianity. It is a hauty thought to think there aren't people living right now who have taken the Word to mean something it doesn't, and then gone out with their burning crosses (real or invisable) to travel under wraps and do most harm in the night. More people have been killed in wars over religion well, supposedly religion, than for any other reason. But religion is nothing without followers, without people. When it boils down to it, religion is kept in a book. A book can do nothing by itself. Most religions don't tout hatred, love is key; however, if we read the bible, even the bible would tell us an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth - the bible is full of stories of death, war and destruction but here's the point... The written word, is always up for interpretation by the reader or, the follower of the interpreter. Wars are fought between people, not books. It's people. Ever seen a mob? I have. Not pretty. Ever seen one man get up the courage to stick a knife to your back? I have. I never want to feel it again. The man who held the knife had a choice, he didn't even have to have a knife, I would have given him the money but he thought he had to have the knife. The best programming is the program we feed ourselves.

Oh, and by the way... you couldn't get me to go to the middle east, stand on their turf, and then openly insult them by telling them their religion was the most satanic religion of all religions. Why not just give me a pistol and ask me to shoot myself? Geeze, I've got a pic of my 3 year old grandson, who lives in Huston, TX, standing on the Texan's logo yelling at the top of his lungs "The Texans s*^k!" (and no, I did not teach him that, I have trouble with it myself). I don't think that's a very good idea either, he's snotting it out there when he's not even old enough to lock horns;-}

[161803398]

It's important for each person to remember that somewhere in Iran, Syria, Israel, even North Korea, there is a person just like them. I don't divide people by their religions because the great bulk of humanity are, left to themselves, moderate and humane. But the fundamentalists in any religion are in a boat all by themselves and it should be set adrift.

The Satanist's are another thing. I'm not a person who ever believed in Satan. But the point is, the Satanists believe in themselves and, it seems, they have a great deal of power at the moment. Personally, I think it is because there are a great number of influential pedophiles and the idea that you can do whatever you want without any repercussions is quite attractive to perverts who, I think, probably feel a little persecuted. Something happened around 1985 that set them on a roll and its been going strong ever since. I'd have to listen to this program again but Deagle made a number of points that I agree with although he goes overboard. People will take what he says in the wrong way...he seems not to understand that the Muslim religion, like any other, includes real and diverse people. They aren't the Borg.

Saying that Muslims "want" Sharia law is just naive, uninformed and makes him sound a bit stupid. He should get off that if he wants a wider audience.

Here are some pictures of Iran in the 70s. Tell me again how these people want Sharia Law. Khomeini came to Iran on a plane. He's not even Iranian.

http://funnytogo.com/pictures/iran70s/lifestyle.htm

And I have to say that starving people is a really idiotic way to dissuade them from having nuclear energy or creating a weapon. Its more likely to make them want to get a weapon. Certainly the American government must know that. They seem to get away with a lot because people seem to think they are stupid or misinformed. But, if you want people to fight with you the best way to get them to do that is to abuse them. I think Iran will not bite the bait though.

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[161803398]

I did not say that Sharia law is not "possible". I'm talking on a practical level. Fundamentalists want Sharia law, yes. But for others Sharia Law is a tool. I'm not talking about anything spiritual at the moment. Sharia law is a mechanism of control, suppression and distraction and that's possibly why the American government is supporting it in the Middle East and Africa. It may also appeal to some uneducated or unintelligent people on the receiving end.

[Carmody]

You think? try to tell them the truth about that there religion is the most Satanic of all and see if they are your enemy or not

Waking people from a fully fleshed out complex dream.... has always been potentially dangerous. And besides, I do not take extremists or flag and sword wavers as being representative of all. For that would put me in the same position as they be. for every screaming lunatic, there is probably a good 10-100 silent reasonable contemplative or simply quiet ones..being obscured by the noise of the given loud one.

I have a Muslim friend whom I ran into a while back, hadn't seen him in years. I had a chance to ask him if all this current insanity in western society was giving him any grief. This whole witch hunt boogey-man thing, that had come about. this re-orientation toward some new crap, that was created to keep people grouped and ignorant (armed with spears, facing outward, not looking inward).

He said no.

Thus, for all the news and political hype (and what it is trying to produce), the reasonable people are still out there.

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[Carmody]

Alrighty, then. Apparently I am the Walrus.

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