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Cidersomerset
21st October 2012, 09:37
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A British firm based on Teeside says it's designed revolutionary new technology that can produce petrol using air and water.

Air Fuel Synthesis in Stockton-on-Tees has produced five litres of petrol since August, but hopes to be in production by 2015 making synthetic fuel targeted at the motor sports sector.

The company believes the technique could help solve energy supply problems and curb global warming.

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British engineers produce amazing 'petrol from air' technology
Revolutionary new technology that produces “petrol from air” is being produced by a British firm, it emerged tonight.


proccessing graphic on link below !!

http://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/hotspotgraphics/495petroltoair/crack.html


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/fuel/9619269/British-engineers-produce-amazing-petrol-from-air-technology.html



A small company in the north of England has developed the “air capture” technology to create synthetic petrol using only air and electricity.

Experts tonight hailed the astonishing breakthrough as a potential “game-changer” in the battle against climate change and a saviour for the world’s energy crisis.

The technology, presented to a London engineering conference this week, removes carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

The “petrol from air” technology involves taking sodium hydroxide and mixing it with carbon dioxide before "electrolysing" the sodium carbonate that it produces to form pure carbon dioxide.

Hydrogen is then produced by electrolysing water vapour captured with a dehumidifier.

The company, Air Fuel Synthesis, then uses the carbon dioxide and hydrogen to produce methanol which in turn is passed through a gasoline fuel reactor, creating petrol.

Company officials say they had produced five litres of petrol in less than three months from a small refinery in Stockton-on-Tees, Teesside.

The fuel that is produced can be used in any regular petrol tank and, if renewable energy is used to provide the electricity it could become “completely carbon neutral”.

The £1.1m project, in development for the past two years, is being funded by a group of unnamed philanthropists who believe the technology could prove to be a lucrative way of creating renewable energy.

While the technology has the backing of Britain’s Institution of Mechanical Engineers, it has yet to capture the interest of major oil companies.

But company executives hope to build a large plant, which could produce more than a tonne of petrol every day, within two years and a refinery size operation within the next 15 years.

Tonight Institution of Mechanical Engineers (IMechE) officials admitted that while the described the technology as being “too good to be true but it is true”, it could prove to be a “game-changer” in the battle against climate change.

Stephen Tetlow, the IMechE chief executive, hailed the breakthrough as “truly groundbreaking”.

“It has the potential to become a great British success story, which opens up a crucial opportunity to reduce carbon emissions,” he said.

“It also has the potential to reduce our exposure to an increasingly volatile global energy market.

“The potential to provide a variety of sustainable fuels for today’s vehicles and infrastructure is especially exciting.”

Dr Tim Fox, the organisation's head of energy and environment, added: “Air capture technology ultimately has the potential to become a game-changer in our quest to avoid dangerous climate change.”

Peter Harrison, the company’s 58 year-old chief executive, told The Daily Telegraph that he was “excited” about the technology’s potential, which “uses renewable energy in a slightly different way”.

“People do find it unusual when I tell them what we are working on and realise what it means,” said Mr Harrison, a civil engineer from Darlington, Co Durham.

“It is an opportunity for a technology to make an impact on climate change and make an impact on the energy crisis facing this country and the world.

"It looks and smells like petrol but it is much cleaner and we don't have any nasty bits."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/fuel/9619269/British-engineers-produce-amazing-petrol-from-air-technology.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/19/us-science-petrol-idUSBRE89I0V720121019

Carmody
21st October 2012, 17:36
electric universe. (http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/)

Aether slowed down and extended yields
Magnetism slowed down and extended yields
Electricity slowed down and extended yields
Light slowed down and extended yields
Heat slowed down and extended yields
Sound slowed down and extended yields
Physical Vibration slowed down and extended yields Matter.
--John Ernst Worrell Keely (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ernst_Worrell_Keely).

AC always knows where it is. DC only knows where it was.


Keely delivered descriptions of the supposed principles of his process on various occasions.

In 1884, following the demonstration of his "Vaporic gun":

Stripping the process of all technical terms, it is simply this: I take water and air, two mediums of different specific gravity, and produces from them by generation an effect under vibrations that liberates from the air and water an inter atomic ether. The energy of this ether is boundless and can hardly be comprehended. The specific gravity of the ether is about four times lighter than that of hydrogen gas, the lightest gas so far discovered.
—New York Times, 22 September 1884[2]

Following a demonstration in June 1885:

It is an elaboration of interatomic ether by vibration. The atomic ether vibrates all around the molecules of matter. There is a magnetic force attached to it at the same time, and it assimilates with the molecular atomic aggregations - that is, assimilates with a certain attractive force that it is hard to tell what it is. I call it a vibratory negative. It don't act like a magnet drawing metals toward it. There is a certain magnetic effect about it that causes it to adhere by vibratory rotation to different forms of matter - that is the molecular, atomic, etheric, and ether-etheric. The impulse is given by metallic impulses, the rotary power that is formed by etheric vibration - that is the force that holds it in position.
—New York Times, 7 June 1885[3]

Tane Mahuta
22nd October 2012, 09:11
Great!!....Great!!...Great!!

Now just release the science to the open community!!...

Please....Please...Please..."4fs"

nuff said

TM

Cidersomerset
24th October 2012, 19:18
This presentation is interresting, he is saying that its viable now as a niche market.
But if oil goes up the more viable the concept becomes.Its funny because he says
coming from the chemical industry , making carbon nuetral fuel out of thin Air Co2 is easy.
Its just the financial viability of anyone bothering.

Which is confusing because we are panicking about Co2 discharges from industry.
Why are we not making petrol in thousands of small renewable plants already ?

Or was big oil corporates lobbying behind the scenes to stop this untill the oil
starts running out ? The chap giving the presentation made it seem like
theres nothing to it we have known about this for years !!


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Air Fuel Synthesis a small firm in Stockton-on-Tees, UK, has succeedin in synthesizing gasoline from water and carbon dioxide (CO2) extracted from air. The Independent reported on Friday that the company has manufactured five liters of gas since August using a small refinery at its demonstrator plant. While that is a small volume to start with, AFS plans larger demonstrations and commercial-scale production. Essentially, the process will allow renewable energy to be converted into usable fuel in a sustainable carbon-neutral process.

Read more: British Firm Produces Liquid Fuel From Water and Thin Air | Inhabitat - Sustainable Design Innovation, Eco Architecture, Green Building

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Tim Fox, head of energy and the environment for the Institution of Mechanical Engineers (IMechE) in London, told The Independent: “It sounds too good to be true, but it is true. They are doing it and I’ve been up there myself and seen it. The innovation is that they have made it happen as a process. It’s a small pilot plant capturing air and extracting CO2 from it based on well-known principles. It uses well-known and well-established components, but what is exciting is that they have put the whole thing together and shown that it can work.”

Read more: British Firm Produces Liquid Fuel From Water and Thin Air | Inhabitat - Sustainable Design Innovation, Eco Architecture, Green Building

http://inhabitat.com/british-firm-produces-liquid-fuel-from-water-and-thin-air/
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Air Fuel Synthesis on ITV news at 10

AFS were really pleased to be featured on the ITV News at 10 on Friday 19th October. The news feature led by their science editor Lawrence McGinty highlighted how the AFS process of making petrol from air and water works

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The news article featured the Deputy Prime Minister, Nick Clegg who had visited the demonstrator plant in Stockton on Tees earlier that day. Mr Clegg commented, "How exciting" along with "I feel I've glimpsed the future, good luck!"


Interviewed in the news programme was Dr Tim Fox, Head of Energy & Environment at the IMechE who confirmed, "the recycling process would capture carbon in the air"

Read more: Air Fuel Synthesis on ITV news at 10



Information for potential investors

Over the past few days, we have been humbled and excited to see the level of interest that AFS has seen, and the interest regarding funding, investment etc has been great to see, we are trying to reply to people, but hopefully this information below should help provide some answers.

For those interested in investment, funding support etc:

Read more: Information for potential investors



Latest News : Petrol from air an update

Petrol from air an update

After the positive coverage following the recent IMechE CO2 air capture conference and the features on the front page of the Independent we have been inundated here at AFS with requests for media interviews and comments from social media forums. We have seen coverage across the world from leading national media including specialist scientific and engineering journals.

Read more: Latest News : Petrol from air an update



A real, sustainable alternative to fossil fuels


Air Fuel Synthesis is pioneering revolutionary renewable fuels to provide secure, stable, and sustainable alternatives to global uncertainty about the future of fossil fuels and fossil oil based products.

Air Fuel Synthesis uses renewable energy to do what nature does with photosynthesis and time, converting carbon dioxide into oil. Put simply, Air Fuel Synthesis converts carbon dioxide and water into synthetic hydrocarbon liquids from which sustainable fuels or other oil based products can be made.

AFS fuels provide a proven solution for sustainable transport fuels of all types, ultimately up to and including renewable aviation fuel - a fuel that is particularly difficult to obtain from other non-fossil sources.

AFS ‘Sustainable fuels’ concept overview

Oil is basically made from carbon and hydrogen. Carbon is in the air in the form of carbon dioxide and hydrogen can be found in water.

Air Fuel Synthesis is the process of turning carbon dioxide and hydrogen in water into a sustainable fuel.

AFS is integrating a range of technologies that allow carbon neutral, sustainable fuel to enter the transport fuel market, thus significantly reducing the CO2 emissions to the atmosphere associated with the burning of fossil fuels.

Air Fuel Synthesis is developing sustainable fuel operational expertise through its high-tech demonstrator facility. This facility produces a range of renewable fuels as a precursor to commercial scale applications and projects.

To find out more about the AFS process, and how we create sustainable fuel using air and water, visit our Technology page.

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Other Co2 concepts.....


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TargeT
24th October 2012, 21:13
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51237-British-engineers-produce-amazing-petrol-from-air-technology

to quote myself:



I wonder what the "power in - power out" is for this process...

it may be like wind/solar... the cost of manufacturing (material wise (which usually means oil)) is generally very high and negates any benefits



this doesn't sound like anything good to me unless it is HIGHLY efficent (which I doubt it is).