Mutant humanity 2

[ROMANWKT]

MUTANT HUMANITY 2

First of all I would like to thank Kathy a contributor who brought this information to my attention from THEONETRUTH website, and for graciously allowing me to share her find of the book THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD with you here on Project Avalon. That website has gained credibility in my eyes for contribution in the same field as Project Avalon. Thank you Kathy.




This is the type of information that we constantly see about our past, always mysterious, always a mystery.

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Those that have read the book mentioned above, have a opportunity to share their finding and opinions in this thread. If you have not yet read the book you can download it from this link

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51214-Mutant-humanity

The most amazing thing that stuck me was that the Ancients never mentioned spirituality in their scriptures, not once, as the author of this book had said, that this was introduced later by religion.

The religions of that time were the holders of their gods law, they knew their gods, because they walked among them. The law stated that, amongst other servitude and slavery tactics, that care of their bodies is their highest priority, especially preservation of their cells, WHY??

[Camilo]

Perhaps because they have been pursuing physical immortality. Tha'st why they never thought much about spirituality, as they're the fallen ones.

[ROMANWKT]

Perhaps because they have been pursuing physical immortality. That why they never thought much about spirituality, as they're the fallen ones.

Hi Camilo

Then you must be a believer in reincarnation and spirit, and who told you that? and have you achieved this spiritual realm?? are you sure its not your mind working overtime?? from within out to this reality, you can go in and out while you live, no such proof when you're dead. Keep trying you never know.

regards

roman

[Jayke]

I'm reading through the book slowly whilst skimming through to try and get the overall picture. So far I'm not totally convinced, although she is referring to ancient scriptures her interpretations of those scriptures just feel a bit off to me in places. Obviously I'd have to make my way through the whole book to conclude fully but so far I think George Careys book the zodiac and the salts of salvation (http://www.amazon.com/Zodiac-Salts-Salvation-George-Carey/dp/0766138062) has a much better understanding of the ancient science of biology and its relationship to ancient wisdom. Not only does it contain a deep understanding of biology, it also shows etymologically how the words we use, the language we speak developed from an understanding of this sacred science of biological alchemy. Hard to argue with an understanding of a science when the relic of that science is still being spoken unknowingly by entire civilisations.


The most amazing thing that stuck me was that the Ancients never mentioned spirituality in their scriptures, not once, as the author of this book had said, that this was introduced later by religion.

What ancients are you referring too here? Which scriptures? What definition of spirituality are you using? That's a pretty vague statement and I'm pretty sure we could find some references to counter that opinion if we knew how far back and the specific sources you're using to base that opinion on. It's all just a matter of interpretaion and like Lana Cantrell admits in the book title, the greatest story never told, it is just a story, a personal reality tunnel. For example she talks alot about eating the right diet but even that's a spiritual process when looked at in a certain way. Eating foods that properly nourish the body allow prana and life to flourish to all the cells thereby creating sensations of lightness, joy, illumination, vitality. May sound purely biological in the process but definitely ends in a spiritual experience as a result in my opinion. What definition of spirituality does Lana Cantrell use? To me spirit is just energy, the more energy you have the more enjoyment you get out of life, the more you can create and experience any thing you can imagine.

One of the most ancient sciences, sacred geometry, has its five platonic solids, which are the five shapes of geometry that can be seen in the sacred geometry pattern of the flower of life. The flower of life symbol is about as ancient as we can get and even that encodes in it the elements of earth, air, fire, water and ether. Ether being the spiritual realm of existence. Why encode ether into there understanding of geometry if they didn't believe in spirituality? Kind of leads me to believe her studies into the ancient scriptures and cultures of the past weren't as thorough as some might believe. Lots of dots connected on one level but still missing important pieces on another.


The religions of that time were the holders of their gods law, they knew their gods, because they walked among them. The law stated that, amongst other servitude and slavery tactics, that care of their bodies is their highest priority, especially preservation of their cells, WHY??

Not just ancient scriptures but ancient cultures from around the world talk about the merkaba. The vehicle of light that the human body transmutes into as the biological alchemy process completes and enables the human to become his own space chariot allowing him to travel the stars and commune with other races on other worlds. Our ancient gods she refers too may have developed the external technology to achieve this but according to our ancient ancestors this was always meant to be an internal spiritual process that any human could attain without technology. In fact, a well documented case of this occuring relatively recently is that of hui-neng, the sixth patriarch of zen who wrote the scripture 'the platform sutra'. His mummified remains can still be viewed in Nanhua Temple in Shaoguan. Western scholars still believe he was mummified after his death but the monks of the temple are adamant his mummification was a result of his pure living and incredible internal stores of spiritual energy. To believe or not to believe, that is the question! And the answer to that question radically alters the story we choose to tell ourselves about truth and what's ultimately possibile.

Anyway, just my thoughts so far, i'll contribute more once i've made it through to the end. Maybe i'll discover something in their that's concrete enough in interpretation to alter my current paradigm of reality, we shall see.

[ROMANWKT]

Hi Jayke and thank for your input, which is very well put, You sound very well read and its very interesting how you can gather your thoughts from others information.

But to go back to the book, you need to continue as you will find the reason for the food control, which is very important and its implications. there's a lot of info there, don't miss it.

waiting for more from you Jayke

warmest regards

roman

[Tony]

The point is, Roman, that spirituality is our essence. It's here, right now!
It's certainly not a creation of religion. It's not a creation of people.
It's simply a discovery of our true nature.
The "Ancients" asked the same questions we ask ourselves, and they came various approaches which we have access to today. One merely has to read ancient texts, and look into one's own heart to see if it's true or not.

My point is really that, if reincarnation is true, we have been the "Ancients", but have forgotten.
We have to keep retracing our steps until we get the message.
We don't have to follow ancient texts, but if you read the beauty of them, you would know there is truth there.
Truth is beauty.
Beauty is truth.
It is eternal.

We, as sentient beings, spend most of our lives in fantasy because we always think we know better. The answer is always the simplest of simples.
Lana has created a very complicated world which, for me, has no attraction whatsoever.

All the best with your endeavours!
Tony

PS Kathie is still reading, and will get back to you over the weekend.

[ROMANWKT]

Hi Tony

Thank you for your input which is not disagreeable at all to me.

I think I had voiced this before, that for thousands of years, man has strived for spiritual attainment, and if humanity responded to the hundred monkey affect, we would not be in this $hithole we call life which is no life at all, its as fake as the spiritual results that people get, thinking they are there.

Wish you well Tony will talk soon

Regards as ever

roman

[ROMANWKT]

The human race can achieve the most wonderful and amazing things here on this planet there are really no limits other than what we impose on our selves, nothing is paranormal its all normal, go through all disciplines and you will understand what can and has been achieved, most are kept secret from you the people, it takes great mind control. where do you think you stand when you are dead, how do you intend to do or be, if you think you can disengage yourself in the astral as all teaching go, all is well and great, are you sure though, I know we can do it here, I know we can do it our mind, but once the life force is severed, well that's the question. The Ancients are saying that if you loose the life force its permanent, final.

My Regards to all

roman

[ROMANWKT]

If you have a real good Google on the web searching for Ancient radiation fallout in the deserts which does exits and the authorities refuse to check it out, Why?? why would all this information that the Vatican has from the previous civilization be hidden from us, what have they got to hide.

The Ancients tell us that there was rivalry between the gods, one was called Neburians and the other Annunakis they caused the fall of man biologically not spiritually as we are all told with this sin business, but with their nuclear weapons. the slaves, the humans, were caught in the middle of their waring and so were the cretins that you are all praying to. Yes they bred us, and yes they are our relatives but they were and still are a bunch of bastards that their descendent are still in control here and now.

Regards

roman

[ROMANWKT]

When any of the dogs, er sorry gods were hurt, they had to be removed to the motherships way above earth to be restored, the had the knowledge and the technology to do that. There was a horrendous amount of mutation going on with the human birth and also their offspring via human which they were fighting a loosing battle as it affected all living matter and the blockage of the sun created unlivable conditions. the sun turned out to be deadly and everybody had to keep out from severe radiation.

The gods eventually banished all the mutation underground The hollow earth where they are still there to this day unrecognizable to us other than as beasts. Nobody to this day is allowed to go to or fly over the north pole, or the south, no photo other the stolen ones from NASA are available anywhere, check properly and see, you will be told that no plane can fly because of the magnetic field, and that is bull, so why not show it from above the earth, its never has been available to us the people.

Regards

roman

[ROMANWKT]

So up to now it doesn't sound very spiritual does it, and their close blood descendant created all the religions. they spiritualised the law given to man the slave, as a means of wholly controlling, not holy, there is nothing holy on this planet earth. Within all the religion is the central core of what to eat, morality, and behavior, all the rest is spiritualised nonsense.

If you read the book you will find the breeds that were the bloodlines of the gods, these breeds had grasped the power when their gods abandoned them as the planet was about to be nuked, that the reason they abandoned their slaves and especially their offspring's, the Neburinas left and the Anunnaki followed as told by the Ancients. The brotherhood is controlled by the bloodlines, you and I are scum, we are here to serve.

Regards
roman

[ROMANWKT]

Their fear and hatred for us is because we have the something that the gods had which made them exterminate million of people for thousand of years, as humanity has suffered under the bloodlines and are still suffering. they would keep all knowledge away from the masses and keep total control. the core of all the law which they made a religion from, had the 3 point mentioned before, the food, the morals (sexual) and behavior was given because man the human inherited the gift of immortality as their gods. and this is when the brown stuff hit the fan for mankind.

Now we all go and figure out who the immortal right now may be, figure out why we have been suppressed as we have been, figure out why the porn,the drugs, the poisons, thousand of people had written all about their going on, READ THE BOOK.

Regards
roman

[Fred Steeves]

If you read the book you will find the breeds that were the bloodlines of the gods, these breeds had grasped the power when their gods abandoned them as the planet was about to be nuked, that the reason they abandoned their slaves and especially their offspring's, the Neburinas left and the Anunnaki followed as told by the Ancients. The brotherhood is controlled by the bloodlines, you and I are scum, we are here to serve.


See Roman, races like the Annunaki no longer impress me, or even the ones who were here long before them. Or before them, or before them, or before...Maybe the history never ends, and we've been doing this creation/destruction game for trillions of years, or more. What possible concept of time can we imagine beyond that? In conversations like this, I always feel like we're dancing around the ole Mulberry Bush, talking in terms of what has happened only in the terms of the last few, or several thousand years.

The great predator to be slain is the ever changing grand illusion, and therefore it can never be laid glove on. Until one day we happen to catch a glimpse of our old arch rival in the mirror one day, and realize: "Oh s**t, it's me"...(LOL)

Cheers,
Fred

[ROMANWKT]

Hallo Fred

Long time no see , hope all well with you

Yes you make a very good point, but check the post above you, and what do you think now.

warmest regards to you Fred will talk soon on skype

roman

[ROMANWKT]

Give the people life after death, give them the heaven to look forward to, give them a god who will punish them when they don't do as they are told, warn them of excommunication and of ever reaching heaven. give them holy angels and holy Marys and Jesus, give them nonsense holy rules, you know I cant do this crap anymore, im going to bed, good night.

[aniN]

No wonder that we have so much information ( to think about ), regarding that we are one great mix of everything... and still mixing... :)

[Hughe]

When I see the Gods on the book, the Gods are just ****ed up humans who has more advanced technologies than us. Just looking at the pure stupidity of empire or society they had lived. For example there are two war-like kings, one king stole the other king's wife. And the old king is very upset and engage war against other empire killing so many people.



The most amazing thing that stuck me was that the Ancients never mentioned spirituality in their scriptures, not once, as the author of this book had said, that this was introduced later by religion.

It depends how to look at the Ancients. Vedic text is huge. All the eastern religions originated from Vedic culture deals with soul.

No body really knows what exactly had happened in past. The history is written by winners. I wish often I will plug in the Akashic Records and retrieve real information by myself. Then, I'll have the real history.

This book deals with a fraction of time frame that is covered on Forbidden Archeology - Michael A. Cremo. The Vedic universe is vast. Anyway The Greatest Story Never Told by Lana Cantrell is an excellent book. It's heavy stuff, strong opinions of the author about modern civilization. I've read to chapter ten. Some subjects are hard to swallow. It makes me think alot.

I think real history of humanity was hijacked many years ago unfortunately. Mind control or manipulating the memory of collective enslaves entire species. Brilliant tool for the controllers whoever or whatever it is.

[davyj0nes]

I read, up to 5-1, and i guess my question is, how is this any different from any other ancient alien/astronauts story. A lot of what was in there are things already being discussed in the ufo community. Here is a good opportunity to introduce the term unverified personal gnosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unverified_personal_gnosis), abbreviated (UPG). I just heard it the other day and its definition is as follows; Unverified personal gnosis (often abbreviated UPG) is the phenomenological concept that an individual's spiritual insights (or gnosis) may be valid for them without being generalizable to the experience of others
So, while this story might be true to Lana Cantrell it is only true for her.
Okay so back to observing. I was intrigued by the title.

[ROMANWKT]

Here's something from Kerry at Camelot, I know we have a text version on this site right now, here's the youtube version.

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I see they are taking care of themselves as usual keeping everything Hush Hush.

regards
roman

[ROMANWKT]

Well here something that I missed on one of the threads, we will realise which way they are going, which ultimately will be the way we are going to go.

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Regards

roman

[learninglight]

Morning Roman :)

Mixed feelings here on the book (on page 200)

1: It seems to be written on an 'assumption' that there was a nuclear war in the past and this is why we are in the state we are in today
( Have read very similar else where)

2: Her take on the Veda, as most of the book so far seems like a re-write of that from her perspective

3: Her take on gender changing was informative ( although her own 'up her own arse' attitude didn't go down to well with me ,i.e 'All women in the military are Lesbians' lol )

4: Her take on dates and dating objects and time being completely wrong, i personally agree with


O.k back to reading

Sharon

[ROMANWKT]

Hi sharon

Yes that the German touch, reminds me of myself hehehe, yes the implication are that they had nuclear devices and there is enough proof of scattered glass all over the great deserts which are radio active, which could only of been nuclear as if the high temperatures required to create glass.

There are a lot more surprises if you're on page 200 moving on.

Hope all is well with you both, keep reading and see how it opens out for you.

Thank you Sharon, warmest regards

roman

[ROMANWKT]

IF anybody is interested in following the hollow earth, and would like to go deeper(pun) into the subject here is a book that I have not seen before called THE NEW GERMANY, copy and paste in your word processor @ 255 pages or read it online.

Regards to all

roman

http://www.librarising.com/conspiracy/newgermany.html

[lookbeyond]

I read, up to 5-1, and i guess my question is, how is this any different from any other ancient alien/astronauts story. A lot of what was in there are things already being discussed in the ufo community. Here is a good opportunity to introduce the term unverified personal gnosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unverified_personal_gnosis), abbreviated (UPG). I just heard it the other day and its definition is as follows; Unverified personal gnosis (often abbreviated UPG) is the phenomenological concept that an individual's spiritual insights (or gnosis) may be valid for them without being generalizable to the experience of others
So, while this story might be true to Lana Cantrell it is only true for her.
Okay so back to observing. I was intrigued by the title.

In my experience, i can relate to the idea of UPG and its use as a learning tool, even a guidance system.

[ROMANWKT]

I read, up to 5-1, and i guess my question is, how is this any different from any other ancient alien/astronauts story. A lot of what was in there are things already being discussed in the ufo community. Here is a good opportunity to introduce the term unverified personal gnosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unverified_personal_gnosis), abbreviated (UPG). I just heard it the other day and its definition is as follows; Unverified personal gnosis (often abbreviated UPG) is the phenomenological concept that an individual's spiritual insights (or gnosis) may be valid for them without being generalizable to the experience of others
So, while this story might be true to Lana Cantrell it is only true for her.
Okay so back to observing. I was intrigued by the title.

In my experience, i can relate to the idea of UPG and its use as a learning tool, even a guidance system.

She uses gnosis is many examples as it so radically challenges the bible, her main scripture extract are from the Veda and Egyptian, I point this out if anymore wish to read the book, there is more there than what you may think and greatly differs from other works as its looked by a person with biological and physiological qualification.

http://www26.us.archive.org/details/The_Greatest_Story_Never_Told_Lana_Cantrell

Thank you and regards

roman

[lookbeyond]

I read, up to 5-1, and i guess my question is, how is this any different from any other ancient alien/astronauts story. A lot of what was in there are things already being discussed in the ufo community. Here is a good opportunity to introduce the term unverified personal gnosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unverified_personal_gnosis), abbreviated (UPG). I just heard it the other day and its definition is as follows; Unverified personal gnosis (often abbreviated UPG) is the phenomenological concept that an individual's spiritual insights (or gnosis) may be valid for them without being generalizable to the experience of others
So, while this story might be true to Lana Cantrell it is only true for her.
Okay so back to observing. I was intrigued by the title.

In my experience, i can relate to the idea of UPG and its use as a learning tool, even a guidance system.

She uses gnosis is many examples as it so radically challenges the bible, her main scripture extract are from the Veda and Egyptian, I point this out if anymore wish to read the book, there is more there than what you may think and greatly differs from other works as its looked by a person with biological and physiological qualification.

http://www26.us.archive.org/details/The_Greatest_Story_Never_Told_Lana_Cantrell

Thank you and regards

roman

Im not entirely comfortable with some of the prose which seems to be somewhat judgemental in tone, for me this takes away from scientific impartiality, i am up to chpt 10 and will carry on tomorrow

Kind Reguards lookbeyond

[ROMANWKT]

I read, up to 5-1, and i guess my question is, how is this any different from any other ancient alien/astronauts story. A lot of what was in there are things already being discussed in the ufo community. Here is a good opportunity to introduce the term unverified personal gnosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unverified_personal_gnosis), abbreviated (UPG). I just heard it the other day and its definition is as follows; Unverified personal gnosis (often abbreviated UPG) is the phenomenological concept that an individual's spiritual insights (or gnosis) may be valid for them without being generalizable to the experience of others
So, while this story might be true to Lana Cantrell it is only true for her.
Okay so back to observing. I was intrigued by the title.

In my experience, i can relate to the idea of UPG and its use as a learning tool, even a guidance system.

She uses gnosis is many examples as it so radically challenges the bible, her main scripture extract are from the Veda and Egyptian, I point this out if anymore wish to read the book, there is more there than what you may think and greatly differs from other works as its looked by a person with biological and physiological qualification.

http://www26.us.archive.org/details/The_Greatest_Story_Never_Told_Lana_Cantrell

Thank you and regards

roman

Im not entirely comfortable with some of the prose which seems to be somewhat judgemental in tone, for me this takes away from scientific impartiality, i am up to chpt 10 and will carry on tomorrow

Kind Regards lookbeyond

Yes I agree with you, she stunned me a few times, some I had to laugh at it, some of her comment about us having to take care of the children that the drug addicts and drinker, to judgmental, not funny. the intro from the 1st thread called her Ms so she did not marry, oh well to it takes all sorts.

Thank you lookbeyond, drop in for more.

Regards to you

roman

[Tarka the Duck]

Hello Roman

Oh wow!!! I truly wonder what agenda is behind this book: there is very little information out there about its author.

Firstly, I have to say that haven't read such unsubstantiated, bigoted, abusive material for a long time :eek:. Unfortunately, her personal views are so extreme (for example, crib death is "blatant murder") that I can't trust her judgement.

I'm not a scholar of Vedic, Egyptian or Sumerian text, so whether she is right or not in her interpretation of these texts, I have no idea.
BUT...I am definitely qualified to comment on what has been written about women. There were parts where I couldn't put it down...but not for the reason you would probably hope, Roman! Its been a long time since I have been able to indulge in such feelings of outrage, and it was very therapeutic so thank you for that. But it went way past the stage of "funny". Oh my goodness! I've summarised some of the choicest statements (there are plenty more, and I have page references if anyone wants to check any of these if they don't believe me!).

You may see why I'm obsessed with the feeling that this book is written by a man...again, what is the agenda here? I've spent a lot of time drawing this material together because I feel it's important to address the ridiculousness of it ;)


Ideally, the only kind of woman that should exist is the “gynic” woman, ie a human with female characteristics. That is a proper woman. One who understands the importance of service. Who is preferably illiterate, and so delicate that they are unable to participate in any activity. Who is happy to spend their day cloistered, and away from anything that may cause excitement at that would harm their inner organs.

According to her, today's version of womankind is andric. That's a pretty obscure word, but she is meaning androgynous ie of indeterminate sex. In fact, today's woman is so androgynous that she is apparently able to fertilise her own eggs...

Women of Middle Eastern origin are help up as the ideal, and Purdah is a required way of life for many reasons, including:
being near a man will cause a woman to ovulate
if the egg is fertilised, abortion will occur if the woman is subjected to another man's scent
any woman exposed to any form of excitement will experience “blood engorgement” where there is a drain on the heart, and a “mountain of gynaecological problems” with infertility as a direct consequence
gynics “like to be cloistered” because their bodies “instinctively fear the unpredicatable”.

Andric women who wear trousers (pants) are freaks. Gynic women cannot bear to wear trousers because the rubbing of the fabric against the thighs creates a disturbing sensation as they are so sensitive. Oh, and they also cause cancer because the thermal flow is disturbed.

Wearing a bra is essential, as again, a gynic cannot tolerate the movement of fabric against their breasts: it would drive them crazy. But the andrics have cast theirs off because they have lost their feminine sensitivity.

Proper, gynic women should ideally spend most of their time lying down indoors, as any sudden movements, stress, sunshine, or the scent of a man's phenomes will “cause an egg to erupt”.

Women should not learn to read. “I don't believe women should be banned from learning...but I do believe she has to approach learning in a different way through audio visual or lectures...” Too much reading and study causes brain tumours in women.

Proper, gynic women find it “complimentary and dutious” to serve. They have a smaller brain in relation to their body: their intelligence is geared to “their small, enclosed world of home and children as life intends”. They also have small hearts and are likely to die in surgery.

Proper, gynic women cannot ever be doctors. Menstruating women “have no place at the surgery table where brain power is needed”. But “It is a well known fact that medical exams for women do more damage than good” although “many women enjoy the examination by a man”.

Proper, gynic women should never exercise as this causes terrible gynaecological problems to “the little darlings” (although she does say that a short, gentle walk in the country is acceptable occasionally).

Andric women are responsible for “all the woes of this time”. They have not taken care of the men in the they they should. “Men would not have most of the disorders they have if they were married to gynic women who retained their instincts in skills such as cooking”. The mark of a man with prostrate trouble is a frigid wife...and an awful cook.

Female circumcision is to be praised. For one thing, it allows women to sit down without having to adopt the position of sitting on their legs (known as the Egyptian posture) to prevent any contact between their bottom and a hard surface. For a woman to sit on a chair or the floor leads to automatic masturbation (no, sorry wrong word – she calls it “onanism”). And don't get her started about the andric women of today who actually straddle horses and ride bicycles...and of course, dancing is “pure onanism”.

She claims that women of today suffer constantly from bladder problems and infections of the sexual organs precisely because they sit on their vagina and anus.

“Lesbianism is well known in working women”, and working women have children who are “licentious, disobedient, drug and alcohol dependent and morally depraved” and suffer from “mental retardation, crib death, hyperactivity, learning disabilities, disease and dysfunction”. It's not the fault of society. The blame lies solely with the mother. 99% of women who go to work do not have to do it for material reasons: “If their man is so unsuccessful I suggest she get back to the kitchen for that is where his strength emanates from”.

Had the space shuttle not had such a “cargoload of gynandromorphs aboard” it would not have crashed. Proper, gynic women can't go into space. In fact, they can't even bear to go into an aeroplane as they have fewer red blood cells.

Menstruation is a sign of illness, as is menopause..

Children born by IVF “don't look right”.

When men are present at the birth of their children, they can become impotent for up to a year or more.

One of the roles of the vagina is to allow the removal of hot air from the uterus so that it doesn't overheat...?? all the more reason for not sitting on it, I suppose

She refers to methods of contraception as “Nazi death camp devices”, and maternity wards are referred to as “Nazi death camps” where women are denied the choice of birthing positions, and are forced to give birth horizontally...which accounts for her claim that 20% of American citizens born in hospital have “very severe mental derangements”.

“Any parent experiencing crib death has committed blatant murder.”

Proper, gynic women will die when their husband dies. Even if they were mistreated by their husbands, they will develop a catastrophic disease and die. Suttee is a “very misunderstood biological phenomena” and it “does for women what would normally happen naturally” as to live on after your husband's death was considered to be morally wrong.

She claims that Joseph Merrick's mother (the Elephant Man) was attcked by an elephant. That is pure fiction. Merrick suffered from an illness.

We can't listen to anything Darwin wrote because he masturbated, or to Dr Steven Hawking because he's disabled.


Roman, I haven't read the whole book because, after reading the above, I actually can't take seriously anything this author - whoever they are - writes...

OK, I'll stop now, but there is much, much more where that came from.

Kathie

[ROMANWKT]

Wow errr OK thank you Kathie

Regards as ever

roman

[Tony]

I'm glad I'm not a women in her world!

[Metaphor]

Ok Tarka "the duck", thanks. Didn´t get that far, but I instantly got a bad vibe from this book. Not meant as disrepect to the threadstarter at all, because it is the investment of credibility from previous posts of Roman that got me interested in the first place. Could it be that this is just one other attempt of mixing pure knowledge with contradicions to keep us confused. It has happened before hasn´t it.
There is something here, just can´t get a grip of what it is. Guess I just have to read the whole darned thing after all.

Am I the only one who sense something fishy about the picture of the author?

Edit: Tarka, those pagereferences would come handy to keep it in context.

[lookbeyond]

Hi Roman, as i am unfamiliar with the Vedas and am disliking the general attitude toward women, i am finding the reading hard going, however do not want to miss the important message you mention by completion of the reading- i would appreciate if you could summerise the main points so that we may begin discussion,

Kind Reguards lookbeyond

[TOTHE]

Pages 64 to 66 I agree with....all the vitamins and how they affect the body. And so what if I am not a speed reader like some of the geniuses posting on this thread.

Today we know the benefits of liposomal encapsulated vitamin C which is 300% stronger than conventional vitamin C pills you buy in a store. By making vitamin C fat soluble it is like eating 600 oranges a day. You can make it at home with vitamin C powder, soy-lecithin and an $30 ultra sonic jewelry cleaner.
http://naturalsociety.com/best-protection-fukushima-nuclear-radiation-effects/#ixzz27nwN6lHU

All the MD’s Suzanne Somers interviewed in her book Bombshell would agree with Dr. Cantrell.

[Hughe]

Kudos roman!

This book made me fall over several times. I read up to 500 pages. The author challenges me in many ways which I enjoy a lot. The bonus of this book is it provides many insights about holistic medicine. The flavor of the book changes chapter by chapter. Some chapter is full of medical content that slows down the reading speed. I think the author did it purposely.

A Report on the Motivations and Activities of Extraterrestrial Races – A Typology of the Most Significant Extraterrestrial Races Interacting with Humanity (link (http://exopolitics.org/Report-ET%20Motivations.htm)) says there are twenty two ET races that have interacted with human race on Earth.

I think Annunaki and Nibiru faction is just later winner of the power games on planet Earth between various ET races. History is written by the winner. How many forgotten stories are out there?

[Tarka the Duck]

Edit: Tarka, those pagereferences would come handy to keep it in context.

Agreed, Metaphor...but I've downloaded it onto Kindle on an iPad and it seems that the text is "moving around"...every time i go back to refer to something, it seems to be on a slightly different page. All I could do is give chapter numbers and perhaps provide the first line of the relevant paragraph?

On the plus side, there is a good search facility on the app which you can also use to pinpoint individual pieces of text.

Kathie

Edit. :doh: I've just realised that the little numbers interspersed throughout the text must be page numbers from the original manuscript...so I can come up with page references if needed.

[Tony]

If I fill my head with stuff I don't understand, the bits I do understand will fall out.

[ROMANWKT]

Well hallo all again, my people that I am responsible for came back 2 days earlier, had to dump everything.

So it seems this author woman has got and upset all the ladies, by stating that the ladies are to masculine and are enjoying the friction given by wearing trouser on the clitoris, and that they should have it removed with a pair of large nail clippers, all those in favour please say AYE.

On the other hand if people read what I am trying to direct to them read because I think it would be of interest or beneficial, and they do this because of my credibility, well I would like to inform you all that I have no credibility concerning this subject and I haven't yet met or heard of anybody credible on this subject and I possibly never will, as I have said it before and Ill say it again its all mind works and beliefs, and that's just not credible.

Calling people masturbaters, is her expression and her opinion, there is her reason for it which I will cover later, or If somebody who has read the WHOLE book will possibly understand.

So my apologies if my credibility has hit ground (which I never had any to start with) and offended people by introducing this book, I can only say that one has to be big enough to see the message and not get tied up with the messenger, and by doing that, the message is lost for those offended by personality's.

Kindest regards to all

roman

[Hughe]

Thanks roman,

The sky is blue, sun is shine so I got to work today.

I just finished reading to Chapter 33. This chapter is enough to tell what this book is about. I fell over few times so far. The information on the book is huge, vast, extraordinary, but as always the author's biased opinion does exist. I can say 60% to 70% of content is related to holistic medicine.

CHAPTER THIRTY-THREE, 701 pages
EGYPTIAN TERATOLOGY AND PHYSIOLOGY

I spent one hour to know about the author and this book. It turned out the book was written originally as her thesis in German language, and then translated to English for publication. That's why there are so many typos and errors.

Anyway it will takes few days for me to see what's her final word about the Gods and humanity. Believe or not many ET races have interacted with human race on Earth. I think Nibiru and Annunaki faction were the latest winner of power game. Unfortunately these races were inferior than other ET races technological wise. They were ruthless, liked violence and wars. Under their stupid, absurd ownership how many life forms suffered? Planet scale radiation contamination which caused their declination eventually.

Classical electromagnetism is limited. It is another trap if people use it only tool to interpret the universe around us. I've seen spirituality without real knowledge, i.e. hard science is hollow. I don't think the ugly Gods never left Earth. Their power were reduced by other forces. Brainwashed humans through generations probably have acted as their agent without knowing like dogs do whatever human masters order. Sigh.

The author's definition of immortality is interesting: maintaining optimum health and live long without the fear of death. In some occasions, I sensed she is projecting color blue or green Egyptians' lifestyle is the best. I disagree with it. True immortality as a sentient being is to carry on past and present memories beyond time and space. When each individual work together to move forward at collective level, entire race slowly or dramatically progresses to better (?) existence than past.

I thanks again roman for bringing this marvelous book out.

[ROMANWKT]

Hi and thank you Hughe though half way into the book.

Yes you re absolutely right that this book is a high percentage holistic knowledge, and that one of her expertise, its invaluable to those who understand how the so called directing of the people by defunked authorities the elite, and their educational, spiritual, and historical directives. We have been so badly misdirected that its reaching a crisis point for all humanity, its time to stand on your own two feet as they say, you will not get there without knowledge, as its the only power that we have to take total control of our lives.

Our foul mouth lady here has the holistic, physiological, and biological expertise to set all of you interest in your children's future, to set them on the straight and narrow as the saying goes, to restore the perfection that we are and were, which is already proven to be in most case irreversible, that the greater majority of humanity cannot recover, as mutation breeds mutation.

The implication that I have been going on about are many and varied because the correction has to be dealt with rebalancing as to what we consume as food and nutrition is one of them. hence as Hughe had said.

Hughe thank you and looking forwards for more revelation from you read

warmest regards

roman

[TraineeHuman]

I’ve only read up to Chapter 6 so far.

It so happens that most of what I know about the Gods has been through direct experience. Mainly I have only known Pan and Gaia, the two chief Gods of Nature, and also Shiva and some of his companion Gods. I’m pretty sure Shiva is the same being as Indra and probably even as “Enki”, but no doubt in different incarnations. (I’ve only briefly encountered Yeshua and Judas, but they’re quite similar to these Gods, only a little less powerful and brilliant, as far as I can tell.)

Some of the things I have read in Ms Cantrall’s book have been very accurate. Yes, the Gods (at least all the ones I know) are human. (They appear to me to be the most enlightened, and the most truly intelligent, of all the humans who have ever been.) Yes, when they show themselves in a human form telepathically, their skin is blue-green.

I find it ridiculous, though, that Ms Cantrall believes Indra is Satan/Lucifer/Jahweh. In her first chapters it seems to me she clearly explains how Indra fought a nuclear war against some reptilian species for control of the planet. And that Indra fought on behalf of humankind, and won.

In all my experience, the Gods I know are dedicated to saving or liberating beings (including other intelligent species than humans that are on the planet). Not so much on a physical level, but mostly on a consciousness level. That’s all they seem to be interested in doing. That’s my personal direct experience of them. No pedophilic “sacrifices” or anything sick. These Gods aren’t sick, and have absolutely no time for such rubbish.

It does seem clear, though, that there’s another group of gods, more like pseudo-gods. I think they have been called the Titans. Neptune, for instance. I’ve had virtually no contact with them. But it seems ridiculous to me to lump them into the same box as the Gods I do know. It wouldn't surprise me if the agenda of the Titans has been to enslave humanity. But I find it very hard to believe the Titans can win out in the end.

[ROMANWKT]

The top destroyers of humanities health and metabolism which also reduces lifespan are, SUGAR, FAT, YEAST, SEAFOOD, EROTICISM.

Sugars is responsible for the most damage and imbalance to the human body, recommendation is honey, raw sugars cane, and natural sugar from fruits.

Fat stores toxins and changes to cancerous material when barbecued, fried, grilled, all meats and food for cooking must be baked only to stop oxidation of the fats and food, oxidised fats are cancerous.

Yeast, destroys your cells, and attacks your system, as it has to kill you to cell by cell for the fungus to survive.

Seafood should only be eaten if it has scales and fins, otherwise anything with a shell or crust body is a sifter of the sea bed which is contaminated.

Eroticism is brought on by excessive sugars and obviously low moral standing, the depletion of your life force is responsible for weakness for your overhaul body and intellect mind, tribe found all over the world where man has made contact will have sex 5 to 6 times in a life time, its used for procreation only.

The reason that our foul mouthed lady called people masturbaters, and the crippled, as being unfit to listen to, is that mind affect the body and the body affect the mind.

You should READ THE BOOK, and ignore the opinions, stick to facts that have been misunderstood in our religions scriptures.

Regards

roman

[ROMANWKT]

Thank you TraineeHuman

You may very well be right, she tries very hard to identify all the ancient characters, move on to half way in the book as your outlook may be explained, thank you, looking forward for more comment from you as you move on in the book.

warmest regards

roman.

[ROMANWKT]

People who are a long time vegetarian have crossed the barrier to bad health, mind and longevity.

It has to be understood that your origin is carnivorous, that you need meat for your stability here, when one starts to have OBE very easily that is a sure sign that your metabolism is unstable, the book states that there is a very big difference between induced and un-induced OBE.

The only time that the ancients gods did not touch meat was a few days before they had to leave the earth's atmosphere to go to their motherships.

Both the Neburians and the Annunakis were horned creatures, but when the mutation started it was so incredibly monstrous and varied, that these mutation stories have survived to this day, human bodies with goats head and legs, humans with bull, lion, pigs and Reptilic heads, arms, and legs, these deformities roamed earth, as said before, the mutation ware banished underground, the hallow earth.

It is the reason " as above so bellow " we humanity have everything within us that all biology and the universe resides within each and every one of us. the only memory that has survived is within our DNA, the possibility stands that going within is to tap the the memory of all creation locked in our DNA.

Regards

roman

[Eram]

Hi Roman,

You shouldn't believe everything that they write down, even if the information appears to come from ancient texts.
These text could have been tampered with too you know?

I have been raised as a vegetarian... ate little meat between age 18 and 35 and live as a vegetarian since.
My health and constitution are far above average.
Mind and longevity remains to be seen but I have a feeling that I'm in the clear there too :)

My father lived as a vegetarian since age 20... he is now 66 and looks like a healthy 50 year old.

Always a pleasure to read your threads Roman.

ps: I have an I-pad and have been trying to read this book, using acrobat reader with the pfd file download.
Problem is that I can't figure out how to direct myself to the page that I was reading before taking a pause.
I'm rather new to I-pad. anyone who can help me out here?
It's no use to have to turn every page from scratch to where I was every time. especially with a book that is over 1000 pages :)

[ROMANWKT]

Hi Wakytweaky

For sure I would not disagree with you as I know many vegetarians myself and they look and act just fine, hell most of India is vegetarian, she bring in Hitler as an example as one, you're definitely in the right social circle, hehehe.

Her target is for double to what your father is in comfort and all functioning, she treats 60 as just middle age, and checking ones intake properly would start to restore people genetics, she believes that humanity and the next generation can restore themselves through the right food for greater longevity, pushing the barriers to when man lived far longer than what he does now.

Thank you for that Wakytweaky, I did ask my daughter if she knows how to do your I pad, but she doesn't use PDF on it, so no help, sorry.

Warmest regards to you Wakytweaky I see you're always around, I notice you,

roman

[Star Tsar]

Hey Guys if you go to this link then click read online on the left handside there is a small speaker icon that sits on the top right handside click that and it will read aloud or you can just read normally.

http://archive.org/details/The_Greatest_Story_Never_Told_Lana_Cantrell

:peace:

[ROMANWKT]

Thanks K.W.B

I know some people prefer it, record it possibly and take it with them listening, good find, thank you, should make it easier.

Tell me is it a man or a woman reading, hehehe .........some think she's a man.

Thank you K.W.B

warm regards

roman

[ROMANWKT]

Thanks K.W.B

I know some people prefer it, record it possibly and take it with them listening, good find, thank you, should make it easier.

Tell me is it a man or a woman reading, hehehe .........some think she's a man.

Thank you K.W.B

warm regards

roman

update Yes checked it out and it does work perfectly, thank you K.W.B

[Star Tsar]

Androgynous with a hint of hawking!

:)

[lookbeyond]

Completed the book over the weekend, skimmed over the "Veda" prose as i wouldnt know fact from fiction here and because of authors bias against women wouldnt trust her interpretation anyway. Understood her take and emphasis on nutrition (medical background)though dont see how improving this (and our morals of course) will lead back to physical immortality in future generations? Nuclear war history doesnt surprise me, nor colourful skin/mutations.Implications for future?-unless a consciousness shift occurs on massive scale- back around the mulberry bush we go. My question- i dont recall author discussing what happens to us after death considering she believes we have only one life, tho i may have missed it


Kind Reguards lookbeyond

[ROMANWKT]

Hi lookbeyond I have been asking people here to look beyond lookbeyond, but in this case you looked beyond not her but the Vedas which was exactly the reason I read this book, because of her qualification looking with a different perspective in the translations, the answer to your last question is that you missed it. So after all that I really hope you got a least something out of this.

Thank you very much for your to the point revue which I hope will inspire others to read it, NOT, hehehehe

Warmest regards and thank you lookbeyond

roman

[TOTHE]

Just finished chapter 3. Everything synchronizes with what I know from all of Sitchin’s books, The Vedas, Law of One, The Key, biochemistry and quantum physics. I am going to stop now and sleep on it for the night.

Copper retention from natural suntan was right on the money as discussed in that chapter. Connected the dots on the blue skinned demigods of The Land of Seven Gods (India).

Today I went down to the Harbor Freight store and bought the 3305 ultra-sound jewelry cleaner. I made my first batch of Liposomal Vitamin C using blender emulsified flax oil instead of soy-lecithin. It tastes like rusty nails and my teeth squeaked when rubbing together. Dosage will be 1/4 cup two times a day for now. If I don’t post tomorrow it is because hurricane Sandy turned out the lights...I do have confidence in my connotations, really.

Video how to make:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SeU—wadrMY

Source link
http://naturalsociety.com/best-protection-fukushima-nuclear-radiation-effects/#ixzz27nwN6lHU

[lookbeyond]

Hi lookbeyond I have been asking people here to look beyond lookbeyond, but in this case you looked beyond not her but the Vedas which was exactly the reason I read this book, because of her qualification looking with a different perspective in the translations, the answer to your last question is that you missed it. So after all that I really hope you got a least something out of this.

Thank you very much for your to the point revue which I hope will inspire others to read it, NOT, hehehehe

Warmest regards and thank you lookbeyond

roman

Not quite sure what you wanted roman,i read the book out of interest for myself which i would hav done with or without your plug as i am a truthseeker, though this does not prevent me from having preferences like everyone else when it comes to attitudes which bleed thru so obviously in the written word.The authors attitude is offensive to put it bluntly,she also wreaks of an over inflated ego, which i personally find a very unattractive quality and therefore did not enjoy the read,and as i mentioned in my revue post, i had read similar information previously in my travels.

As to the fact that you pointed out my revue may discourage others from reading this information, firstly any really helpful information will eventually speak for itself to humanity,secondly all my posts are succinct,and thirdly you flatter me, as like you i dont proclaim to hav any credability on Avalon either


Peace to you roman lookbeyond

[Hughe]

I hoped to see whether she would have the Quantum perspective of universe. Unfortunately she failed to get over hundred years old paradigm: classical electromagnetism, matter is over mind.

A Report on the Motivations and Activities of Extraterrestrial Races – A Typology of the Most Significant Extraterrestrial Races Interacting with Humanity (http://exopolitics.org/Report-ET%20Motivations.htm) says there are at least seventeen ET races that have interacted with human race.



‘Short Grays’ (Zeta Reticulum & Orion)
‘Tall Grays-Whites’ (Orion)
Indigenous Reptilians (Earth)
Draconian Reptilians (Alpha Draconis)
Sirians (Sirius B)
Anunnaki (Nibiru)

Telosians (Earth)
Lyrans (Lyra)
Vegans (Lyra)
Pleiadians (Pleiades)
Procyons (Procyon)
Tau Cetians (Tau Ceti)
Andromedans (Andromeda)
Sirians (Sirius A)
Ummites (Ummo)
Alpha Centaurians (Alpha Centauri)
Arcturians (Arcturus)


It will be very interesting to see the forgotten history of humanity from each race above. Sixteen to go! Then we will find who is bad boys.

She made valid points people need to wake up! I wonder what's her perspective of humanity at present if she is still alive, practice holistic medicine? So many questions I had got solved when I realized the miserable, dark history of human race till present, probably it will continue to the final end, carefully engineered by beings.

[ROMANWKT]

Hi lookbeyond I have been asking people here to look beyond lookbeyond, but in this case you looked beyond not her but the Vedas which was exactly the reason I read this book, because of her qualification looking with a different perspective in the translations, the answer to your last question is that you missed it. So after all that I really hope you got a least something out of this.

Thank you very much for your to the point revue which I hope will inspire others to read it, NOT, hehehehe

Warmest regards and thank you lookbeyond

roman

Not quite sure what you wanted roman,i read the book out of interest for myself which i would hav done with or without your plug as i am a truthseeker, though this does not prevent me from having preferences like everyone else when it comes to attitudes which bleed thru so obviously in the written word.The authors attitude is offensive to put it bluntly,she also wreaks of an over inflated ego, which i personally find a very unattractive quality and therefore did not enjoy the read,and as i mentioned in my revue post, i had read similar information previously in my travels.

As to the fact that you pointed out my revue may discourage others from reading this information, firstly any really helpful information will eventually speak for itself to humanity,secondly all my posts are succinct,and thirdly you flatter me, as like you i dont proclaim to hav any credability on Avalon either


Peace to you roman lookbeyond

Hi Lookbeyond

Sorry for taking so long to answer, back from work now.

All I can say is that you really tickled me, and I couldn't help it, something happened to me and I had to laugh, accept my apology if I offended you, please treat this positively, as you made an old man happy.

warmest regards and best wishes to you lookbeyond, and thank you.

roman

[TOTHE]

Finished chapter 4. Now I know the real story of Eve and the Tree of Life.
Potassium & iodine keeps the synapses functioning to counter the effects of EMF, background radiation, heavy metal toxicity and resulting hallucinations & new age channeling.
Oh woe to the people walk around with cellphones to their ear all day.
Oh woe to the people who keep their TV plugged in when it is turned off.
Oh woe to all of us who live with HAARP, chemtrails, GMO foods and pesticides.

In this part of the story within the currently running illusion we are the Fallen and we are in bondage. This suffering is very necessary for us to experience in this particular run of negativity to appreciate the positive. Our souls are watching us as we muddle through school. Someday we will be creator gods and reign with greater dignity than those that reign now over us. Meanwhile, lets continue to walk in our divinity with no judgment, compassion, empathy, curiosity and understanding from which will spring forth the real Love. Our day in the stars will come for it is written in the fabric of the Universe.

http://www26.us.archive.org/details/The_Greatest_Story_Never_Told_Lana_Cantrell

[TOTHE]

Johns Hopkins Update

AFTER YEARS OF TELLING PEOPLE CHEMOTHERAPY IS THE ONLY WAY TO TRY ('TRY', BEING THE KEY WORD) TO ELIMINATE CANCER, JOHNS HOPKINS IS FINALLY STARTING TO TELL YOU THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE WAY .

Cancer Update from Johns Hopkins

...
Johns Hopkins has recently sent this out in its newsletters.

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Please share this all over Avalon on the proper threads! Or someone start a new thread, I want to keep a low profile here, please. I am a only seeker and one not well learned either..........................
Also, he pointed out that plastic wrap, such as Saran, is just as dangerous when placed over foods to be cooked in the microwave. As the food is nuked, the high heat causes poisonous toxins to actually melt out of the plastic wrap and drip into the food. Cover food with a paper towel instead.

Oops it may be a hoax

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/kimmel_cancer_center/news_events/featured/cancer_update_email_it_is_a_hoax.html

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[ Mod-edit: I deleted most of the above. Some of the cancer "information" may have been more truthful than what conventional medicine tells us, but it is quite clear, from the link you provided (http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/kimmel_cancer_center/news_events/featured/cancer_update_email_it_is_a_hoax.html), that the Johns Hopkins Kimmel Cancer Center did NOT send this email out. -Paul. ]