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WhiteFeather
28th October 2012, 18:58
As Sandy heads this way towards the East Coast, and me being The Observer.... I have noticed people in my area reacting in a totally irrational and detached way. Glued To The Sofa and Surfing The Lame Stream News Media Hypnotic Network Stations, The Hype Of The Propaganda Newspapers and The Ass Clown Announcers of The Corporate Radio could quite be pretty lethal to ones being. I believe this is a test and many are failing this exam here in NY. I have seen as being such the observer,,,,,people literally raiding supermarkets, purchasing gas generators, driving erratically, and becoming ill minded, bad brained and detached from the spirit of themselves. I have pondered the idea that if one becomes totally detached from self and nature, the results could be catastrophic to ones being and spirit. This video Im listing below will add some thought of where we have to be, and with respect towards December 21st 2012 and beyond as we head into 2013. Many New Yorkers here have failed the test. Loss of spirit self and a connectedness to nature as a whole. Zombies to say the least...if you will. Just thought i'd share this with you. As the next hours and days pass, i will send out my intentions of calmness and peace for Sandy and The Universe. Im sure we will get through this rather easily, as these are my intentions. This is The Eleventh Hr. And All Is Well!!!!!
A HOPI ELDER SPEAKS:
"You have been telling the people that this is the Eleventh Hour,
now you must go back and tell the people that this is THE HOUR. And
there are things to be considered...
Where are you living?
What are you doing?
What are your relationships?
Are you in right relation?
Where is your water?
Know your garden.
It is time to speak your Truth.
Create your community.
Be good to each other.
And do not look outside yourself for the leader.
Then he clasped his hands together, smiled, and said, "This could be
a good time! There is a river flowing now very fast. It is so great
and swift that there are those who will be afraid. They will try to
hold on to the shore. They will feel they are being torn apart and
will suffer greatly. Know the river has its destination. The elders
say we must let go of the shore, push off into the middle of the
river, keep our eyes open, and our heads above the water.
And I say, see who is in there with you and celebrate. At this time
in history, we are to take nothing personally. Least of all,
ourselves. For the moment that we do, our spiritual growth and
journey comes to a halt. The time of the lone wolf is over.
Gather yourselves! Banish the word struggle from your attitude and
your vocabulary. All that we do now must be done in a sacred manner
and in celebration.
We are the ones we've been waiting for.
Oraibi, Arizona
Hopi Nation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BLIEfwG0XQ&feature=plcp
Mark
28th October 2012, 19:11
Such is the state of our collective slate. Despite the hype toward the inverse, a literal cleansing of the collective slate seems to be metaphorically implicit in these depradations of nature that strike in the most synchronicitous fashion in certain places at certain times. Whether human agency is involved or not, all happens according to a greater purpose and could not happen if that purpose were not being served.
Im sure the doomsday vibe is being served ably and unreasoned fear and extremeism is being emphasized at the collective level. But, as you say, the personal is key. How we each respond. They say we're going to get it too up here in southern Quebec, although a lot less intense. Lots of rain and high winds. I intend the highest potentiality and set that intent for the region during this event and its aftermath. Be safe and be at peace.
M6*
28th October 2012, 19:13
Thank you, Whitefeather, for this beautiful post.
Take care, and be safe. Your Friend, M6*
Marianne
28th October 2012, 19:16
Thank you for that wisdom, WhiteFeather.
GlassSteagallfan
28th October 2012, 19:50
Nice post WhiteFeather! Keep the good vibs coming!
I believe this is a test...
Yes, it is. According to Ben Livingston's declassified weather control technology, you can create, strengthen, weaken and steer hurricanes.
It kinda suks knowing this is intentional. And telling anyone gets you a strait jacket...lol
spiritguide
28th October 2012, 19:59
Vince,
Stay safe, will the positive vibes for family and you. Mother earth protects her Spirit.
:peace:
shadowstalker
28th October 2012, 21:40
All I have been feeling about this whole Sandy event is neutrality, And plz don't ask me how to explain what that means cuz I have no words at this point.
Cidersomerset
28th October 2012, 21:45
Good luck whitefeather , Thoughts with you !!
TGT4vCo9T0k
Skywizard
28th October 2012, 22:08
Keep the Spirit within... and stay safe my friend.
Peace,
~skywizard
T Smith
28th October 2012, 22:47
Hello WhiteFeather,
Great post. I concur with your insights. The energy here in NY is very disturbing. At my local gas station a fight nearly erupted, with golf clubs, over the gas queue. There is a crazed look in the eyes of people, bumping into each other and literally fighting over provisions. If this is the beta version of things to come, I agree with your assessment. We the people are failing the test. Given what I've seen from the masses scurrying about in self-absorbed determination, I shudder to think how people will respond to much more dire and challenging things to come.
Hype aside, this could also be a beta drill for FEMA and the controlling authorities if they can successfully generate the type of storm that will disrupt electricity for millions, for an extended time, say a week or two. The key for widespread electricity disruption, including gas stations, grocery stores, drug stores, etc., would be the sustained girth of tropical-like winds over a vast portion of the most populated region of the country. Hurricanes, while stronger and more potent, are much smaller in impact and break apart quickly when they reach land, which limits the damage. A storm of Sandy's magnitude is actually much weaker relative to a hurricane (I'm not expecting winds much above 50 mph anywhere along the east coast--despite what the weather mongers would lead us to believe) but this storm is also much larger in scope and more sustained over time, especially with the help of HAARP, which essentially targets a certain area of the ionosphere and lifts it into space, creating a bubble, so to speak, which draws the lower stratosphere, and the troposphere, where the weather develops, right into a targeted pocket. In this way you can literally "steer" a storm with a proverbial joystick and deposit it wherever you want it to go. It would appear that the engineers of this particular beast are drawing three storm fronts, including a relatively weak hurricane that originated in the Caribbean, all into a huge triangular region of New York, Washington D.C., Boston, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Connecticut.
If they are successful with creating the "perfect storm" right over the most populated region of the country, it would certainly cause havoc. With the help of the State's propaganda MSM arm, it could even affect the outcome of Presidential election. This whole event may even be a "smokescreen" to cut off a large portion of the eastern seaboard from the grid, for the same aforementioned objectives, employing Sandy as the perfect pretext. Be it from the storm itself or blamed on the storm, this would nonetheless serve as test-run opportunity to assess and "manage" the collective unrest in the face of a widespread emergency.
These are all possibilities. We also shouldn't leave off the table that this is indeed a natural storm hyped for less sinister objectives, e.g. network ratings and economic stimulus, and nothing but a natural windfall to the shrewd who are riding the hype to serve their agendas. If the ladder is the case--and I hope it is--the perfect storm will likely brush the coast and move off to sea, accomplishing little but agitating the zombies glued to the tele.
Kindred
28th October 2012, 23:08
Yes Whitefeather... the 'flock' is responding to that which they are told. It is so sad to see so many in this state of unknowing. In many respects, you can't blame them as it's all they have known. Since finding the alternative news sites, I've felt that the header at Luis Manuel to be particularly relevant. http://luismmx.blogspot.com/
That said, it does appear that this storm will be quite powerful, and it comes at the time of the full moon, so that the tidal effects are greatly amplified.
I did find this piece to be significant, relative to this rather strange 'left turn' this storm seems to be tracking... and that all the forecasting programs are saying it will take this path... in the past, these type of storms simply turn right and head out to sea as they track up the coast.
http://theintelhub.com/2012/10/27/engineered-storm-haarp-monitoring-project-records-strongest-readings-ever-directed-in-path-of-hurricane-sandy/
excerpt:
"An independent website that has a real-time sensor network from over 28 sensors placed in rural areas across the United States has recorded the strongest HAARP readings in the projects history.
The readings, in and around the New England area, are literally off the charts and lend credence to other claims that Hurricane Sandy is possibly being engineered to cause massive destruction.
In a Facebook post, the HAARP monitoring website posted this startling description above the photo of the readings:
Strongest readings in the history of this project have peaked. A never before seen white-shade indicates that a value higher than 10 on the
1-10 scale has been indicated. It has no color assigned!
HaarpStatus has finally come to a bullseye over what looks like Rhode Island and Connecticut.
Current projections at NOAA say Hurricane Sandy will hit New Jersey. Our status numbers disagree. The storm is being steered toward the higher concentration numbers.
Truly remarkable numbers and it is one to archive because this may never be seen again in a very long time."
I think there's a lot more behind this than at first glance.
In Unity, Peace and Love
WhiteFeather
29th October 2012, 02:22
Nice post WhiteFeather! Keep the good vibs coming!
I believe this is a test...
Yes, it is. According to Ben Livingston's declassified weather control technology, you can create, strengthen, weaken and steer hurricanes.
It kinda suks knowing this is intentional. And telling anyone gets you a strait jacket...lol
I went outside a few short seconds ago and made my intentions, I'm directing her energy back to sea.
sandy
29th October 2012, 03:15
Just added my energy and intention to your WhiteFeather>>>>>>>>>>Bunches of Love and Hugs coming your way on the winds that are blowing out to sea!!!:high5: :hug:
Grinner
29th October 2012, 04:00
I am in NYC and I am quite calm. Maybe I'll feel different at 6 am but it's a lot of media hype about a big storm. I don't feel that people are freaking out.
4evrneo
29th October 2012, 04:16
I went outside a few short seconds ago and made my intentions, I'm directing her energy back to sea.
Im with you Wf, sending all my light and love for protection and peace.
Annette
Rocky_Shorz
29th October 2012, 05:07
Nice post WhiteFeather! Keep the good vibs coming!
I believe this is a test...
Yes, it is. According to Ben Livingston's declassified weather control technology, you can create, strengthen, weaken and steer hurricanes.
It kinda suks knowing this is intentional. And telling anyone gets you a strait jacket...lol
I went outside a few short seconds ago and made my intentions, I'm directing her energy back to sea.
you aren't supposed to allow evil men onto your lands, let the storm hit and send the bankers out to sea... ;)
just kidding, stay safe my friend...
ghostrider
29th October 2012, 05:23
Never let a crisis go to waste. the big storm about to slam into the heart of the political machine a week before the big election. I see problem , reaction, solution at play here. I said it in another post, there will be a catastrophe and the election cancelled. No power , no voting machine, streets flooded, no traffic headed to the voting booth. I hope I'm wrong. This storm is man-made .
WhiteFeather
29th October 2012, 16:40
The Winds are picking up, some power outages, not too bad. Raining lightly, Sending Sandy Some Love as I send her back out to sea. She loves the ocean. Bon Voyage Sandy.
cloud9
29th October 2012, 17:51
If people start sending energy to direct the storm to the sea, I imagine many will say: you see? It was a big hype but there was nothing to it! Oh dear....
Well, I live in Long Island which is in front of New York City and so far we have been without power twice today. I'm kind of worried because we could be without power for several days.
Also the wind is getting stronger...
cloud9
29th October 2012, 17:55
The Winds are picking up, some power outages, not too bad. Raining lightly, Sending Sandy Some Love as I send her back out to sea. She loves the ocean. Bon Voyage Sandy.
Dear WF;
outages are not too bad when they happen in next town or next block, don't you think? lol I really thought the second one was going to last until the end of the week, I'm really praying it doesn't happen again, without news or internet this could be a hard pill to swallow from what I've seen so far.
huyi82
29th October 2012, 18:42
to everyone in the east coast area, keep and stay safe and good luck.
Mark
29th October 2012, 18:44
Southern Ontario and Western Quebec are going to get winds up to 100 km per hour, high waves on the Great lakes and Maritime region, and up to 50 cm of rain.
http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/hurricane-sandy-set-to-hit-ontario-quebec-monday-afternoon/article4718848/?service=mobile
The power goes out where Im at with very little provocation. This is going to be a wild experience for the entire eastern part of N. America.
Snookie
29th October 2012, 18:58
It's hard to say whether this storm is being hyped up more than necessary by the media to take attention off other stories or if they are purposely going to make it worse because of the election.
This is too funny...I was watching CNN and this reporter was going on about how bad things were, and two joggers ran by in their shorts! Then I noticed the trees were barely moving! Unless things change dramatically I think the media is trying their best to make it seem worse than it is.
Snookie
29th October 2012, 19:04
The No Agenda boys think the MSM is really focusing on this storm to take the attention off the Bengazi fiasco.
http://www.noagedashow.com/
cloud9
29th October 2012, 20:01
This is my first experience with an hurricane but I opnened my kitchen door and the wind is so strong it seems the trees are coming down. I hope we won't be without power.
I just read the post above mine. The storm is real here in Long Island at least, very strong.
T Smith
29th October 2012, 20:05
If people start sending energy to direct the storm to the sea, I imagine many will say: you see? It was a big hype but there was nothing to it! Oh dear....
Well, I live in Long Island which is in front of New York City and so far we have been without power twice today. I'm kind of worried because we could be without power for several days.
Also the wind is getting stronger...
Hi Cloud9 -- no power where I am right now. Contacted LIPA. The ETA for power where I am is 7-10 days.
We should expect this same time frame all over the tri-state area.
avid
29th October 2012, 20:07
Frankenstorm?
Not only to divert attention from the very duplicitous foreign affairs, but also to take our eyes off all the corruption, the murder of 2 small children whose father dared to publicise bankster fraud, the election fraudulence, the judges who don't judge fairly any more, the MSM whores who propagate total lies - all beguiled by corporate blackmail in perpetuity until we wipe the slate clean of these evil-doers and their servile whimps.
Out them!!! Blank them! Give them no voice or excuses - after all this time, and now in many countries worldwide - we KNOW who they are!!! Are they your neighbours? Are they your police? Give them up!!!
Unravel those trouser legs, and stop the 'secret' handshakes- it's pathetic - vile, inhumane, and you are guilty of perpetuating genocide.
I've been stunned at local levels what these folk get away with over the years - planning applications being 'passed' despite local objections, misdemeanours suddenly turned into 'accidents', year upon year of unfair treatment by our local 'councils' who can be turncoats 'on a whim' - and desperate folk trying for appeals usually deliberately put on 'back-burners' sooo looong the appellant is either bankrupted or loses out elsewhere.
Time to get rid of the FREEMASON rot.
Mark
29th October 2012, 20:12
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=18995&d=1351541388
Mark
29th October 2012, 20:50
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=18999&d=1351543966
Grinner
29th October 2012, 20:56
Still very high winds in Brooklyn. Lots of trees down. They say peak winds still to come at 6 and 8 pm.
seko
29th October 2012, 21:27
Sorry to spoil the beautiful picture Rahkyt but it's a photoshop from 2009.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=18995&d=1351541388
Mark
29th October 2012, 21:38
Its ok, its not spoiled. The power and majesty of nature remains humbling.
astrid
29th October 2012, 21:39
Was going to say that pic looks way shopped
Lets keep it real folks
Way enough hype ready !!
Mark
29th October 2012, 21:45
Yes, Astrid (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/10/29/fake-hurricane-sandy-photos-internet-northeast_n_2041283.html). So lets continue to send high intentions to those most affected during this time. Positivity and blessings are energetic forces that do have an impact, as do other, less helpful emotional states.
Matisse
29th October 2012, 21:51
for all of you out there in that region i wish you the best.... keep safe...all the best and much love...
T Smith
29th October 2012, 22:50
Report from Long Island:
Just went outside to survey the storm. There are military planes flying overhead (too low to be commercial; all commercial flights canceled). Not sure what or why these planes are flying above. Also flashes in the sky periodically on the horizon, which may just be lightening.
TargeT
29th October 2012, 22:54
The No Agenda boys think the MSM is really focusing on this storm to take the attention off the Bengazi fiasco.
http://www.noagedashow.com/
I think this is the case, a Cat 1 hurricane is not that bad, it will cause some damage but mostly it's the perfect distraction from the Bengazi's white house directed ambassador assassination.
This is my first experience with an hurricane but I opnened my kitchen door and the wind is so strong it seems the trees are coming down. I hope we won't be without power.
I just read the post above mine. The storm is real here in Long Island at least, very strong.
we have annual storms that knock tree's down and take out power for thousands; I think the lack of preperation and panic will be your biggest issues.
Unless the wind speeds are hitting 100+MPH, then you'll have other issues.
Gusts of 80MPH (not sustained?) will give you a fun ride and cause a lot of minor costmetic damage.
its not looking too terribly bad, hopefully it continues as is or dies down a bit, though a 1,000 mile wide storm is a very large storm.
Windspeeds:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIAPWSAT3+shtml/292059.shtml
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/wp-content/gallery/hurricaine-sandy/8131382839_9c82cb8d3a_c.jpg
cloud9
29th October 2012, 23:21
Power is on again, happy about that.
T Smith, I was watching one of those live cameras mostly in Manhattan and everything there seems so calm and peaceful that anybody watching those would believe is like that everywhere.
Selene
29th October 2012, 23:29
WhiteFeather,
I’m certain that - as a New York City cop born and bred- you’ll be out there in the midst doing all you can to help keep the people around you safe. That’s your nature. And that this storm will require all of your training, your instincts and your courage.
Go with God, my brother. We, who wait and watch here, have your back. You are not alone.
All my prayers and best wishes,
Selene
Cidersomerset
30th October 2012, 00:06
Good luck Whitefeather !
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Anastasia
30th October 2012, 02:57
Hello All:
It is 10:52 pm in New York.
The latest news in...New York Stock Exchange is under three feet of water. In fact all of lower Manhattan is flooded.
News announced NYSE under water....15 minutes later they resinded (covered up, I believe) the statement about flooded floor of the exchange. Curious.
No matter though...all is well.
Sending Light and Love to all fellow east enders and to all everywhere.
Anastasia
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ThePythonicCow
30th October 2012, 03:15
In fact all of lower Manhattan is flooded.
And the electricity is turned off to parts of Manhattan, as I just realized when I went to figure out why my phone doesn't work.
I use a Voice-Over-IP (VOIP) service whose computer is in Manhattan. Their twitter feed is still up, and links to the Con-Ed announcement: CON EDISON SHUTS OFF POWER TO PART OF LOWER MANHATTAN (http://www.coned.com/newsroom/news/pr20121029_3.asp)
Rocky_Shorz
30th October 2012, 04:28
Manhattan Bankers and the wall street trading floor is under water, subways and all tunnels flooded... Could be shut down for a week...
for those who feel they are the biggest enemies of our country, you might be smiling, too bad it had such a bad affect on all the good people around it...
some think the 1% are the most powerful people in our country, according to the Mayan Calendar, that will be changing very soon...
Rocky_Shorz
30th October 2012, 04:44
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6awWIaCUAAZOwm.jpg
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6aqauUCYAEfS8w.jpg
http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/508f2d386bb3f77b55000000-817-621/path-station-floods.jpg
TargeT
30th October 2012, 05:21
Lesson of the century... build your **** near or UNDER sea level... expect bad **** to happen....
Wind
31st October 2012, 00:19
Be safe, WhiteFeather. My prayers go to all of you who are being affected by this storm.
WhiteFeather
31st October 2012, 20:02
WhiteFeather,
I’m certain that - as a New York City cop born and bred- you’ll be out there in the midst doing all you can to help keep the people around you safe. That’s your nature. And that this storm will require all of your training, your instincts and your courage.
Go with God, my brother. We, who wait and watch here, have your back. You are not alone.
All my prayers and best wishes,
Selene
Beautiful words Selene and I Thank You. Unfortunately i had a crew of my own here that had to be watched over, now that all is safe in my abode at this time, i feel it necessary to help the less fortunate ones.
Much Love To All and Thank You Selene for those words.
W.f.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaIHUfnv-JQ
Camilo
31st October 2012, 20:15
Some times ain't easy to remain calm while the wildest event you have witnessed in this life time is unfolding in front of you, and is threatening your way of living, your family, your friends, your everything.
It's true, people should have done their homework and be ready for what ever comes their way at every level (emotional, mental, physical and spiritual), and not to "react" out of fear under the circumstances.
This is the beginning of wildest things to come all over the planet, so lets use this mirror and start getting prepared.
With this kind of events, hopefully people are waking up and realizing what this is all about.
Best wishes to all
spiritguide
1st November 2012, 11:02
Vince,
Glad to hear you and yours pulled through the wrath of nature. Stay safe and spirit be with you and yours.
Lou
T Smith
1st November 2012, 12:36
Vince,
Glad to hear you and yours pulled through the wrath of nature. Stay safe and spirit be with you and yours.
Lou
Yes, nature is extremely pissed... She doesn't like being poked by HAARP
Maia Gabrial
1st November 2012, 14:44
Here's proof that some people didn't take Sandy all that seriously!
jbY-S507dT4
We got hit by it in our valley here in Pennsylvania, too. I have to say that it was worse than hurricane Donna that we experienced in Florida in the 60's.
But you know, for some reason fear never occurred to me this time. I was told by a huge male being that things would get better and I really believe him.... I believe that everything we're going through is just preparing us for our changes....Stay centered in your hearts, everyone!
Camilo
1st November 2012, 16:06
The media must connect the dots on extreme weather and climate change.
Hurricane Sandy caused terrible devastation and loss. But it is also a teachable moment to educate the public about the connection between extreme weather and oceans that are warming due to fossil-fueled climate change.
But too many major news outlets and reports are still relying on hackneyed weather reporting — windblown "reporters" with microphones on beaches — rather than asking why storms are getting bigger and more dangerous.1 Hurricane Sandy was no act of God. It was a record-setting killer storm that is becoming the new normal — and is a harbinger of much worse to come if we do not change course.
If we are ever to have sufficient will to attack global warming, the public needs to be let in on what many climate scientists are already saying.
Fortunately, there are a few media outlets starting to make the connection — NBC's Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Brian Williams and even Jimmy Fallon are at least raising the question and bringing on thoughtful guests.2
But most of Big Media is relying on lowest-common-denominator weather reporting to cover record-breaking extreme weather.
We deserve better. Much better.
Tell CBS, ABC, the NY Times, Washington Post, Fox, and even NPR to report the connection between climate change and extreme storms.
When it comes to confronting climate change, we have a major structural and political problem. Our broken system of campaign finance and lobbying has allowed major polluters to buy off one party and essentially scare the other. The result is gridlock, science denial, and a continuance of policies which subsidize, promote and even invest in fossil fuels for the long-term, when we should be phasing them out as fast as can — maybe faster.
We must, very soon, work to overcome the power of the fossil fuel polluters and their hold on our elected leaders to get the policies we need.
Part of that will be the media fulfilling their obligation to inform the populous in this country. We need to know the whole truth. They must start reporting it.
Credo Action
Maia Gabrial
2nd November 2012, 16:04
I've been reading alot more horrific cases and it's sad. If this was a HAARP induced hurricane then those a-hole Nazis deserve what they get when the time comes. Justice will breathe down their necks. Bushes and their cronies will be punished.... Join me and visualize this happening to them. They need to be stopped....
WhiteFeather
2nd November 2012, 17:22
IMO....What amazes me in what i have noticed is, most of all this is the sheer sarcasm, cockiness, ill humor and ass clowning around, that these lame stream corporate news reporters and radio ass jockeys are announcing these past few days. Reporting such utter crap and then heading home to their corporate owned,,, warm,,,, and fully stocked homes.
Ohhh And don't forget the NYC Marathon on Sunday, God Forbid,,,,,,,,Utter Bullshyte.
As Ralph Kramden would say....One of these days Alice, one of these days.. Pow right in the kisser.
norman
2nd November 2012, 18:09
I don't think we should be so quick to connect extreme weather with something we are being blamed for, like guzzling too much fossil gas.
There are other possible causes of the changes we are seeing. On another thread here Bill asked for ideas about why the Antarctic isn't doing the same as the Arctic. To claim that we must reduce energy consumption and trade carbon credits as if they were on a commodity market is, in my opinon, at best an over simplification, and more likely a huge deliberate scam.
That things are getting crazy, isn't in doubt. Exactly why it's happening, is still very much uncertain.
If it turns out to be caused by something outside human influence, as the difference between the poles seems to me to indicate, we are going to not only look very silly but also regret giving away even more to the organized crime gangs that run this show here on the planet.
They may also be applying fancy technology to making things the way they are for their own sick reasons.
I'm not sticking up for bad lifestyles, I'm just trying to differentiate between what probably are 2 merged phenomena. That are, 1) the climate and environment are getting crazy, 2) Our lifestyles are obviously not healthy or good.
The convenience of combining these things and packaging it up as a single 'marketable' solution......huhh....well..... it rings my alarm bells, to say the least.
One thing we know for sure in all this, is where main stream science gets all it's funding from.
As for CO2 in the atmosphere, that level is almost bound to average temperature whichever came first, the chicken or the egg. Main stream 'science' says the CO2 is driving temp'. Why are they so sure. If anything else was driving temp, CO2 levels would rise just the same, from the warming of the oceans. It's raw politics to insist that the data says it's one way around when the real science says, "we don't actually know what's causing what yet".
spiritguide
2nd November 2012, 20:21
The earth is changing therefore the climate is changing, quite simple. The earth change is related to the solar system changes / cycles. This also equates to the constant expansion and changes of the galaxy.
Now if the species of human think they are the cause of this and can rectify it, so be it. We have been told to respect and know this and to live harmonious with it as nature and it's laws. Regardless of NEWS and theories, thrust upon us we must discern the difference, as we have been foretold to be aware of false prophets.
Must this be gift wrapped for us?
:peace:
ThePythonicCow
2nd November 2012, 21:30
Now if the species of human think they are the cause of this and can rectify it, so be it.
Perhaps it is not either/or, but both? Perhaps some humans are modifying, amplifying or diminishing the underlying major solar system (and galaxy) changes and cycles.
WhiteFeather
2nd November 2012, 21:43
The Marathon that was scheduled for this coming Sunday starting in Staten Island at The VZ bridge is cancelled, perhaps there is hope yet.
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