Fluoride spill at water facility literally burns holes in parking lot cement

[ThePythonicCow]

In case you're still undecided on whether to avoid consuming fluoride, consider this report (uploaded to Youtube Mar 31, 2011, but I just noticed it):


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The Youtube text that goes with this report:

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A recent chemical spill at a water treatment facility in Rock Island, Ill., required the assistance of an emergency relief crew decked in the very same type of hazmat suits being worn by workers at the Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear plant in Japan. Except instead of radiation, the leaked chemical at the water plant was actually hydrofluorosilicic acid, a chemical fluoride component commonly added to drinking supplies for the stated purpose of preventing cavities. This fluoride chemical is so hazardous that it actually began to burn through parking lot cement in Rock Island before emergency crews arrived on the scene.

According to reports from WQAD News 8 in Moline, a tanker truck delivering the fluoride began to overflow, leaking the chemical directly onto the parking lot where it spilled down towards the street. And before emergency crews arrived on the scene in full hazmat suits and gas masks, the fluoride had actually begun to burn a hole right through the concrete.

"It's a corrosive agent that the water treatment plant uses," said Rock Island assistant fire chief Jeff Yerkey, concerning the spilled fluoride. He explained that the crews had to use earthen berms, dirt, sand, and commercial broom equipment to stop the leak. Yerkey also added that there was no "inhalation hazard" from the incident, and no evacuation of local residents was required.

What is truly amazing about the incident is that this very same fluoride, which fire chief Yerkey specifically called a "corrosive agent," is deliberately added to drinking water supplies across the nation. This highly-toxic chemical that, when spilled, requires similar protective equipment as does a radioactive fallout situation, is being added to millions of Americans drinking water supplies every single day in the name of promoting health.

In reality, the events surrounding this fluoride spill are more than enough proof for any rationally-minded person that adding this poison to water supplies is a bad idea. Anything that requires the use of a protective suit and gas mask in order to handle -- and that burns a hole directly through concrete -- simply cannot be good for the body when ingested.
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And to think we put this stuff in our public drinking water, or in some other nations in our table salt, as well as in our toothpastes. Our dentists, ever diligent in their efforts to improve our dental health, brush it on our children's teeth.

[Hervé]

From Wikipedia:

Uses
... The potassium salt is used in the production of porceleins, the magnesium salt for hardened concretes and as an insecticide, and the barium salts for phosphors.

Hexafluorosilicic acid is also commonly used for water fluoridation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation) in several countries including the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Republic of Ireland. In the U.S., about 40,000 tons of fluorosilic acid is recovered from phosphoric acid plants, and then used primarily in water fluoridation, sometimes after being processed into sodium silicofluoride.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrofluorosilicic_acid#cite_note-USGS-2)

Hexafluorosilicic acid is also used as an electrolyte in the Betts electrolytic process (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betts_electrolytic_process) for refining lead.

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hexafluorosilicic_acid&action=edit&section=5&articleFeedbackv5_click_tracking=1&articleFeedbackv5_ct_cttoken=4w8NQKGDESPQQtV1cvcKHXw38ySCVrtYQ&articleFeedbackv5_ct_usertoken=8DhjHMTxAPGPPEaW9n5bYAZsOD2cHW63&articleFeedbackv5_ct_event=ext.articleFeedbackv5%4010-option6X-section_edit_link)] Safety
Hexafluorosilicic acid releases hydrogen fluoride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_fluoride) when evaporated, so it has similar risks. It is corrosive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrosive) and may cause fluoride poisoning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_poisoning); inhalation of the vapors may cause lung edema (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lung_edema). Like hydrogen fluoride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_fluoride), it attacks glass and stoneware (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoneware).[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrofluorosilicic_acid#cite_note-6) LD50 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LD50) value of hexafluorosilicic acid is 70 mg/kg (example LD50 for caffeine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine) is 127 mg/kg).[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrofluorosilicic_acid#cite_note-7)[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrofluorosilicic_acid#cite_note-8)

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IIRC from my chemistry courses, the only material not attacked/corroded by that acid are plastics of the teflon kind. Anything else will be chewed through in record times.

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

I hope this video goes viral :)

I remeber that fluridic acid can't be contained in glass because it dissolves glass. We use fluorideless tothpaste in our familly. We use Lavera brand. But there are others too. Read label carefully. Some do away with fluoride salts in their products but put other suspicious substances in (titanium dioxide - whitener, triclosan - antiseptic, aluminum hydroxide - abrasive and others).

You can find fluoride in some brands of bottled water. Can't tell if it is put there deliberately but fluoride can contaminate ground water by dissipation from mineral deposit present naturally in Earth crust.

[Carmody]

From Wikipedia:

Uses
... The potassium salt is used in the production of porceleins, the magnesium salt for hardened concretes and as an insecticide, and the barium salts for phosphors.

Hexafluorosilicic acid is also commonly used for water fluoridation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation) in several countries including the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Republic of Ireland. In the U.S., about 40,000 tons of fluorosilic acid is recovered from phosphoric acid plants, and then used primarily in water fluoridation, sometimes after being processed into sodium silicofluoride.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrofluorosilicic_acid#cite_note-USGS-2)

Hexafluorosilicic acid is also used as an electrolyte in the Betts electrolytic process (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betts_electrolytic_process) for refining lead.

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hexafluorosilicic_acid&action=edit&section=5&articleFeedbackv5_click_tracking=1&articleFeedbackv5_ct_cttoken=4w8NQKGDESPQQtV1cvcKHXw38ySCVrtYQ&articleFeedbackv5_ct_usertoken=8DhjHMTxAPGPPEaW9n5bYAZsOD2cHW63&articleFeedbackv5_ct_event=ext.articleFeedbackv5%4010-option6X-section_edit_link)] Safety
Hexafluorosilicic acid releases hydrogen fluoride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_fluoride) when evaporated, so it has similar risks. It is corrosive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrosive) and may cause fluoride poisoning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_poisoning); inhalation of the vapors may cause lung edema (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lung_edema). Like hydrogen fluoride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_fluoride), it attacks glass and stoneware (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoneware).[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrofluorosilicic_acid#cite_note-6) LD50 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LD50) value of hexafluorosilicic acid is 70 mg/kg (example LD50 for caffeine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine) is 127 mg/kg).[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrofluorosilicic_acid#cite_note-7)[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrofluorosilicic_acid#cite_note-8)

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IIRC from my chemistry courses, the only material not attacked/corroded by that acid are plastics of the teflon kind. Anything else will be chewed through in record times.

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And there you may have it.

Finally, it appears the nail has been hit directly on the head, regarding fluoride.


The Betts electrolytic process is an industrial process for purification of lead from bullion. Lead obtained from its ores is famously impure because lead is a good solvent for many metals. Often these impurities are tolerated, but the Betts electrolytic process is used when high purity lead is required, especially for bismuth-free lead.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betts_electrolytic_process

so..if we put fluoride in the water..how does this work?

does it leech bismuth out of the body?

For..just recently..it was 'given out' that the REAL ingredient for making the philosopher's stone..and thus the dimensional intelligence capacities and associated growth/operation/maintenance... for the human body..... is BISMUTH.

http://www.amazon.com/Elixir-Immortality-Modern-Day-Alchemists-Philosophers/dp/1594773033

Thus..are micro levels of fluoride..is this micro level of fluoride leeching out the human body's natural capacities? preventing processes that the human body is constantly, naturally -trying to complete, to enact?

For we know the fluoride damages the pineal with calcification and the pineal is the 'seat of intelligence' in the human body, the 'third eye', as they say.

So fluoride, more sinister and more insidious than originally thought and calculated to be.

Thus MORE HARD EVIDENCE (very much so) that the fluoride is in there specifically to destroy human capacity to be, to become, to evolve.

Now that I see this bit about the betts process, I think the nail has been hit squarely on the head, regarding the real reason for the whole fluoride inclusion in the water saga.

For water, you see, is known as the most potent solvent (and widely useable) with regard to flushing, purification, and molecular level interactions or as a solvent.

Thus, water, fluoride, the pineal gland, and the core component of the body itself making the various versions of charged molecules from trace elements... the philosopher's stone, in a nutshell.

[Tony]

Isn't it wonderful how governments care so much about our teeth.
Shame it stupifies the brain.

[Carmody]

Isn't it wonderful how governments care so much about our teeth.
Shame it stupifies the brain.


It more than stupefies the brain, it removes all aspects of the creation of vigorous (enabled) evolution.

I have just been made aware of this "betts process", and the reason's behind it's existence... and I think it has finally been driven out into the open, regarding the specifics of the inclusion of the specific type of fluoride derivative in the water.

The release of the information about bismuth, regarding the philosopher's stone...is new. As in 2010-2011.

The discovery of it being tied to bismuth, is due to low levels of bismuth always being present in the ingredients of the 'stone' ..ingredients... which have always been impure.

Those who try to make the stone from modern ingredients, have always failed..and this is due to their pure ingredients list (purchased from chemical houses and whatnot)..being free from the impurity of bismuth.

[norman]

If it can etch it's way through glass I hate to think what it does to my cell walls.

[avid]

I have tried to tell my loved ones - put up all the evidence, questionned the Cumbrian water suppliers, since the 1960's. Alzheimers in Cumbria at record levels. Dementia probs causing Social Services to fail.... STILL I can't buy fluoride-free toothpaste for children locally. The big food supermarkets are beholden to the big pharma. Even my hi-strength Vitamin C from Tesco I discovered was full of aspartame!!! Fluoride, Aspartame - we are being stuffed with rubbish by our service and food providers.
It's back to olden days, natural salt gargles and rinses for mouth probs, looking up ancient remedies. However, making one's own colloidal silver really does work! Cheap and very easy to do. Google it!!! Please don't just drink distilled water as we need alkaloids. Look up alternatives to fluoridated water, and challenge your local water authority if you are fluoridated!

[Hervé]

For toothpaste: baking soda!

Works wonders!

[avid]

O'course - Nanna used it - I forgot!!! (doh!)
Baking soda has lots of other healing properties, it took stings away from insects and nettles nasties. It's great for rheumatoid problems - well worth a look in it's history! Nature is amazing - well worth rediscovery...
Thanks Amzer

[WhiteFeather]

Thanks for posting this.

Good read here on Fluoride, as well as a good video below on this link.

http://real-agenda.com/2011/04/01/fluoride-is-a-toxic-industrial-waste-product/

[Daughter of Time]

For toothpaste: baking soda!

Works wonders!

Unfortunately, baking soda is too abrasive for my gums. However, every health food store out there carries a number of different brands of flouride-free toothpaste.

For those who need a de-sensitizer like Sendodyne, there is a brand called "X-Pur" which is, to my knowledge, available only through holistic dentists.

[onawah]

New video from ABC on dangers of fluoridation
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/abc11_investigates&id=8887007
(Go to the link above for the video. I couldn't get it to embed.)

DURHAM, N.C. (WTVD) -- Corey Sturmer didn't know much about fluoride in his drinking water until a year ago, when his dentist told him he has fluorisis, a condition that causes white spotting, yellowing and browning of the teeth, and erosion of the enamel.

"I asked my dentist ... is there fluoride in the drinking water? And he said, yeah ... it's good for your teeth. So then I began to wonder, if it's so good for your teeth, why am I, at 25 years old, having all these issues with my teeth?" Sturmer said.

Sturmer was a college athlete. He eats healthy food and exercises. He started doing research and found evidence that convinced him fluoride might not be as safe as he was led to believe. He came across an I-Team story ABC11 did five years ago in which a Durham dentist told us he believed we're getting too much Fluoride.

"Fluoride in the water is essentially a drug. It's an uncontrolled use of a drug," offered dentist Michael Fleming.

Sturmer said what he learned made him take action.

"That motivated me to reach to you and to continue spreading the word and building up the website and talking to people," said Sturmer.

Sturmer developed a www.durhamagainstfluoride.com website and took his cause to the Durham County Health Department. He's also raising awareness by putting information on cars in downtown Durham.

Sturmer said he's so concerned about the issue that he filters his tap water. His crusade may be limited to Durham, but he's not alone in his fight. A movement to ban fluoride in drinking water is heating up across the country.

In Portland, Oregon this fall, residents protested a city council vote to begin fluoridating tap water next year. They have enough signatures on a petition to take the issue to the ballot box next year. In Wichita, Kansas last week, voters rejected a plan to add fluoride to their public water supply.

"Our task was essentially one of just education. Myself, I thought fluoride was a good thing not long ago," explained Jonathan Hall with Wichitans Opposed to Fluoride.

As the I-Team dug into the science behind the fluoride controversy, we found study after study dating back to the 80s from respected academic and scientific institutions that connect fluoride to health dangers. Some of the studies were funded by the government. They suggest fluoride can be linked to brain, blood and bone deficiencies in humans. This past summer, Harvard University released a report after reviewing 27 studies of children in China exposed to fluoride. It concluded the higher the fluoride exposure, the lower the child's IQ.

One of the most recognized reports was published in 2006 by The National Academy of Sciences. It found fluoride can affect the thyroid gland and potentially lower the intelligence of children.

"EPA's drinking water standards are supposed to protect all persons against anticipated adverse health effects of the contaminant in question," explained Kathleen Thiessen - one of the scientists who worked on the 400-page study. "And we concluded after three years worth of work that the drinking water standard for fluoride was not protected and cannot be assumed to be safe for humans."

Thiessen said the EPA was warned about potential fluoride health dangers by one of its own chemists more than a decade ago. Dr. William Hirzy testified before a Senate subcommittee in 2000. He was representing the views of EPA scientists and staff who analyze hazards in the environment.

"In 1997, we voted to oppose fluoridation, and our opposition has grown stronger as more adverse data on the practice has come in," said Hirzy.

"The CDC and others say whatever beneficial effect there is from fluoride is from topical use. It's not from swallowing it. It never has been from swallowing it," said Thiessen.

The I-Team discovered most western countries do not fluoridate their water. Dental records kept by the World Health Organization show tooth decay in those countries has declined at the same rate as here in the United States - where we do fluoridate our water. The American Dental Association has endorsed fluoridation since it began in this country more than 50 years ago.

"[It] has been shown to be a very safe and very effective preventive measure for treating a disease that is rampant in our population," said Dr. Tim Wright with the UNC School of Dentistry. "There is no public health measure that is as cost effective as water fluoridation to prevent tooth decay ... Fluoride is like so many things that in the right amount it's very beneficial, and if you have too much, too much is not a good thing. So are we getting too much?"

Six years ago, the ADA thought infants might be getting too much fluoride and it warned parents not to use fluoridated water - but bottled water - to mix baby formula. Dentists also want to make sure children don't get too much when they brush their teeth.

"That is why we currently recommend a smear or a grain-sized amount. So a very small amount in a child from the time they first get their teeth - which is six months to a year - until they turn 3. And then at 3, the recommendation is to go to more of a pea-sized amount so there's a little bit more," Dr. Wright explained.

Sturmer points to the warning label on toothpaste.

"If you look on the other side of that toothpaste tube, it says 'Do not swallow.' We've been taught as kids, when you're brushing your teeth, do not swallow the toothpaste foam. Why is that?" he asked. "Because fluoride is poisonous ... So why is it in the water? Why do we need to drink it?"

The EPA doesn't believe the amount of fluoride in water is causing harm. It has not changed fluoride standards for drinking water more than six years after the report by The National Academy of Sciences, and that frustrates scientist Kathleen Thiessen.

"There probably never was a beneficial effect. Certainly by now when we have fluoride in toothpaste, we have fluoride in mouth rinse, we have fluoride in a number of sources. It is extremely easy to have too much fluoride. It's much harder to control it," she said.

"I think all city governments ... need to reconsider water fluoridation. The science is out there, the citizens who are concerned are out there, and they are making their voices known," said Sturmer.

Sturmer has convinced the Durham County Public Health Department to look into the safety of fluoride in the water.

The National Institutes of Health - for the first time ever - is currently funding an animal study to assess fluoride's effect on the brain.

Click here for more information on Fluoride http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/feature?section=resources&id=8886992

[soleil]

this weekend i immediately purchased fluoride-free toothpaste for my daughter....it was painful to find ZERO options for adults in walmart however.... :wizard: