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Selene
31st October 2012, 19:18
This just in, from Gordon Duff at VeteransToday: did the Secretary of Defense foil a renegade military plot to overthrow the US government in event of an Obama election victory?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/10/31/press-tv-us-military-planned-mutiny-on-the-bounty-to-topple-obama/

It seems the rumor posted yesterday here: Mutiny To Topple Obama (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51518-Mutiny-to-Topple-Obama) has legs.


Today, Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette was “fired” from his command of one of the three carrier battle groups [and sent] back to Bremerton, Washington to face an investigation.

It is impossible to adequately state how unusual this is and how serious.

The Navy was clear that the charges had nothing to do with his personal conduct, no rape or sexual misconduct, no stolen money, no drug use, the things that usually bring down careers in the Navy, that and crashing ships into each other.

Gaouette was sent back because the Secretary of Defense found him unfit for command, [after] sen[ding] him across the world in the middle of one of the largest combat exercises in history, one both timed prior to an election and one at a critical location, near the Straits of Hormuz in the Persian Gulf.

Gaouette commanded nearly one third of the Naval and air combat forces in the region.

The decision was made based on a conversation with the Secretary of Defense who, at the end of the talk, believed Gaouette was part of a group of military officers who have been under suspicion for planning a “Seven Days in May” type overthrow of the US government if President Obama is re-elected.

This is not conjecture, dozens of key officers face firing, hundreds are under investigation, all with direct ties to extremist elements in the Republican Party and the Israeli lobby.

Reports received are sourced at the highest levels of the Pentagon and indicate that the administration has been aware of these plans for months. ……

More here: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/10/31/press-tv-us-military-planned-mutiny-on-the-bounty-to-topple-obama/


There’s more. Duff makes some pretty explosive charges here below.



Today, key members of the military more loyal to Israel and Wall Street than the United States are said to be planning a mutiny to take place after the presidential election.

Their task, upon seizing power, is to facilitate a massive terror attack inside the United States, possibly using a stolen nuclear weapon, declare martial law, move troops into Iraq and to attack Iran with aid from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States.

Turkey is to attack Syria with aid from Israel and civil war between the Kurdish regional government and the national government in Baghdad is to begin with the US brokering a peace and re-establishing what “newly appointed President Romney” would describe as the “Status of Forces Agreement” he mentioned during the debates.

His real intent is to occupy Iraq and attack Iran. In the process, America intends on “neutralizing” the nuclear capability of Pakistan.

This is the plan, it is known, not just in the Department of Defense, but by all intelligence agencies, the plotters have all been recognized, are all under surveillance and they have not been very careful.

All information here has more than one official source.

<snip>

The planned overthrow and subsequent declaration of martial law is a massively financed operation with billions of dollars available.

The primary impetus for this action is a belief by members of the “dispensationalist” pseudo-Christian heresy that pervades America’s military service academies that the United States should be subservient to the State of Israel.

Over the past three decades, religious extremists have taken over the Air Force Academy, Annapolis and West Point, teaching mandatory classes in obscure religious beliefs, hatred of Islam and stressing obedience to an “Apocalypse Cult” that stresses pre-emptive nuclear war in order to bring on the “end times” and destroy all life on earth.


Given Gordon’s high-level security clearances and excellent intelligence cotacts – not to mention the verifiable fact of Admiral Gaouette’s removal – gives this story, IMO, some legs.

Cheers for the Secretary of Defense!

Selene

Lazlo
31st October 2012, 20:09
I am waiting for a better source. The credibility of Veteran's today is not high enough to run with a story of this magnitude.

I am confident that there is more to this than meets the eye, but this is a serious enough situation without Gordon Duff making this into a coup attempt.


Published October 27, 2012
Associated Press

The Navy said Saturday it is replacing the admiral in command of an aircraft carrier strike group in the Middle East, pending the outcome of an internal investigation into undisclosed allegations of inappropriate judgment.

Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette is being sent back to the USS John C. Stennis' home port at Bremerton, Wash., in what the Navy called a temporary reassignment. The Navy said he is not formally relieved of his command of the Stennis strike group but will be replaced by Rear Adm. Troy M. Shoemaker, who will assume command until the investigation is completed.

It is highly unusual for the Navy to replace a carrier strike group commander during its deployment.

The Navy did not reveal details of the allegations, citing only an accusation of "inappropriate leadership judgment" that arose during the strike group's deployment to the Middle East. Rear Adm. John Kirby, the Navy's chief spokesman, declined to discuss the investigation.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/27/navy-replaces-admiral-leading-mideast-strike-group/#ixzz2AuPcLlZ9

Selene
31st October 2012, 20:26
I am waiting for a better source. The credibility of Veteran's today is not high enough to run with a story of this magnitude.


I am confident that there is more to this than meets the eye, but this is a serious enough situation without Gordon Duff making this into a coup attempt.


At the same time, no one in the MSM can use the words “coup attempt” until/unless formal charges are laid. They have to wait to quote the WH press release. The present WH euphemism “inappropriate leadership decisions” covers the issue without giving anything away.

And given the seriousness of the matter – high treason in the US military - it seems to me unlikely that formal charges of a more specific sort will ever be laid. That’s too messy a scandal. Those responsible will just be ‘demoted’ and later have ‘accidents’ and ‘suicides’…..:rolleyes: in the traditional way of getting rid of inconvenient people. And the politicians and banksters involved, well, they'll walk free, of course.

Like the Minot nukes, we’ll never get the whole story.

Cheers,

Selene

RUSirius
31st October 2012, 20:32
could be, couldnt be, impossible to believe, currently.
Jeff

Snoweagle
31st October 2012, 21:38
Does that recall of the Admiral have anything to do with this decision?

Israel ‘postpones’ nuclear Iran red line by ‘8 to 10 months
Published: 31 October, 2012, 14:08
Iran’s decision to produce fuel rods from a third of its medium-enriched uranium stockpile delayed its alleged nuclear weapon program, says the Israeli defense minister. But Tel Aviv continues to advocate a military solution to halting it.

­The Iranian move, which clearly clashes with its alleged goal of obtaining a nuclear bomb as soon as possible, is just a temporary set-back in Israel’s eyes and apparently does not change its aggressive rhetoric.

Defense Minister Ehud Barak estimates that Israel and its allies will have to take decision over a military solution of the stand-off in “eight to ten months”, because sanctions and diplomacy will fail to curb Iran’s nuclear ambition, Britain's Daily Telegraph cites the minister as saying.

Tehran denies having any intention of weaponizing its nuclear program, but refuses to stop uranium enrichment, which it says is needed for civilian purposes. The US, the EU and their allies have slapped Iran with crippling economic sanctions to force it to shut down its centrifuges, but so far the Islamic Republic remains defiant.

In August, Iran converted some 38 per cent of its uranium enriched to 20 per cent into fuel rods for its civilian research reactor. Barak says the move somewhat postponed the critical moment after which Israel would evaluate that Iran has enough uranium to produce a nuclear weapon.

snip

http://rt.com/news/iran-israel-strike-postponed-653/

ThePythonicCow
31st October 2012, 22:18
Sorcha Faal (generally recognized on our Project Avalon forum to be a reliable source of disinformation) has a variation of this story.

From Obama Fires Top Admiral For Advocating Libyan Rescue? (Sorcha Faal; Monday, October 29, 2012 8:50) (http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2012/10/obama-fires-top-admiral-as-coup-plot-fears-grows-2466106.html):



According to this report, yesterday (27 October) Obama ordered the immediate removal of Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette from his command of the powerful Carrier Strike Group Three (CSG-3) currently located in the Middle East.

...
This GRU report, however, states that Admiral Gaouette’s firing by President Obama was due to this strike force commander disobeying orders when he ordered his forces on 11 September to “assist and provide intelligence for” American military forces ordered into action by US Army General Carter Ham, who was then the commander of the United States Africa Command (AFRICOM), against terrorist forces attacking the American Consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

...
“The information I heard today was that General [Carter] Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.

General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.”
In short, according to Sorcha Faal, the reason Admiral Gaouette was removed from active command was for supporting an effort of US Army General Carter Ham to engage the forces attacking the American Consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

This Sorcha Faal variation does not mention a coup plot, only actively disobeying orders to stand down during the Benghazi attack.

A copy of this Sorcha Faal report, posted here (http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2012/10/navy-replaces-rear-admiral-charles-m.html), adds mention of a coup in the title and first paragraph.

P.S. That same copy of this report (here (http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2012/10/navy-replaces-rear-admiral-charles-m.html)) has the following banner on top of the article:




Discernment Highly Advised. This report comes from a rumored disinformation agent. This report is published because the truth in this report is about the removal of Admiral Charles Gaoutte. It is up to you to do due diligence and figure out why he was removed. ~e
I'll agree with that banner at least :).

ThePythonicCow
31st October 2012, 22:42
Elsewhere, IsraelInsider.net (http://israelinsider.net/profiles/blogs/top-us-general-and-admiral-reported-canned-over-benghazi-actions-) reports this:



Two senior American military officials -- General Carter Ham of the U.S. Africa Command and Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette of Carrier Strike Group Three -- have been summarily relieved of their command duties. Both dismissals appear related to events during the terror attack in Benghazi.
No coup mention here. I guess IsraelInsider takes a pro-Israel view, but I don't really know.

ThePythonicCow
31st October 2012, 22:58
Alleged: Admiral fired in wake of mutiny plot to overthrow US Gov't

I just changed the title of this thread from "Confirmed: Admiral fired in wake of mutiny plot to overthrow US Gov't" to "Alleged: Admiral fired in wake of mutiny plot to overthrow US Gov't".

This report might be "confirmed" from the viewpoint of Gordon Duff, but so far as I can tell it is not confirmed to our standards.

Selene
31st October 2012, 23:06
Interesting indeed that ol’ Sorcha Fool feels a need to spin this story in the direction of using it to undermine Obama’s measured response to the Benghazi assassination event. Not, of course, that Faal may be working for the same Bush/Cheney team that backed Gaouette and is eager to provoke war with Iran…. Nah.

My sense of the Benghazi thing, given all the questions that have been raised about whether the assassination was a false flag setup in the first place, is that the Bush/Cheney cabal is now using Gaouette’s exposure to continue to slam Obama for refusing to take that bait and go charging into Iran over that incident.

Never let a crisis go to waste, as they say.

Hmmmm, why do I detect the faint odor of Karl Rove here?

Cheers,

Selene


PS, Paul, you are too good! Many thanks for your editorial assistance.

Selene
31st October 2012, 23:16
Elsewhere, IsraelInsider.net (http://israelinsider.net/profiles/blogs/top-us-general-and-admiral-reported-canned-over-benghazi-actions-) reports this:



Two senior American military officials -- General Carter Ham of the U.S. Africa Command and Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette of Carrier Strike Group Three -- have been summarily relieved of their command duties. Both dismissals appear related to events during the terror attack in Benghazi.
No coup mention here. I guess IsraelInsider takes a pro-Israel view, but I don't really know.

The plot thickens, indeed.

But, given the obvious downside of admitting that a group of senior officers may have been implicated in a treasonous plot tied to Zionist interests – and the ‘lesser evil’ choice of Blame It On Benghazi…. Well.

On the other side of the coin, Obama merely being pissed about possible missteps in the Libya situation doesn’t seem to me to be sufficient cause to disembowel your Persian Gulf senior command: there’s got to be more to this. I can’t really buy the Benghazi thing as the real story. It’s too thin.

Cheers,

Selene

ThePythonicCow
1st November 2012, 07:12
This just in, from Gordon Duff at VeteransToday: did the Secretary of Defense foil a renegade military plot to overthrow the US government in event of an Obama election victory?
The PressTV.IR version of this story prompted an earlier thread on Avalon, here: Mutiny to Topple Obama (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51518-Mutiny-to-Topple-Obama).

(It's too late now to be worth merging them ... that's OK.)

Lazlo
1st November 2012, 18:30
Africom (AC): Attack in progress. We have a repsonse team ready.

White House (WH): Do we know if it's definitely terrorist related?

AC: No sir. Suspect terrorists but situation is chaotic. Could be spontaneous rioting.

WH: If we retaliate against civilians it'll cost us the election.

AC: Sir, Americans are dying. We have to go now.

WH: Negative stand down, too risky politically.

AC: With all due respect sir, FU. I am not going to stand by and watch Americans die.

WH: I'll have your head for this. Your career is over.


Entirely fictional, but plausible and explains a great deal of the current shenanigans going on.

Selene
4th November 2012, 01:59
News: A few more Naval heads are decapitated:

http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/navy-removes-ship-s-command-after-boozy-port-visit-1.4185158


SAN DIEGO - The commander and top officers of a San Diego-based Navy frigate have been relieved of duty after a rowdy, booze-fueled port visit to Vladivostok, Russia.

Cmdr. Joseph E. Darlak, skipper of the USS Vandegrift, was removed Friday by Capt. John L. Schultz after an investigation "due to loss of confidence after demonstrating poor leadership and failure to ensure the proper conduct of his wardroom officers" during the three-day September stop, the Navy said in a statement.

Executive officer Lt. Cmdr. Ivan A. Jimenez and the ship's chief engineer and operations officer were also relieved "for personal conduct involving use of alcohol and not adhering to established liberty policies," the statement said.

Yeah. Right. As if sailors have never, ever in history gotten pleasantly drunk in a port. And now that’s a firing offense? …..Puleeeeeze.

The arrest of the mutineers - under any thin pretext - continues. That much is obvious.

Cheers,

Selene