Do you believe in angels? [Archive] - The Project Avalon Community Forum

Midnight

5th November 2012, 06:52

christian

5th November 2012, 07:11

I'm not sure where they come from or where they're going, but I feel that they're most definitely existent. It's funny how some people think that it's only us, when spirit beings, ETs and what-have-you are all around all the time.

Referee

5th November 2012, 07:28

Quite simply YES!!!

modwiz

5th November 2012, 08:04

Yes. I sometimes stay awake at night wondering how many can dance on the head of a pin.

No wait! I wonder if Mitt Romney will start WWlll if elected? That's it!. That's what keeps me awake.

I also wonder of angels will help America from being destroyed by the ignorance of its' own population.

bram

5th November 2012, 08:07

I believe there are many non-human prescences amongst us. To believe in angels is to believe that some of those non-human prescences dedicate themselves to helping out we humans in the messes we get ourselves in. This would be a very comforting and reassuring belief, but I suspect that we are supposed to get ourselves out of these messes, if necessary by dying and repeating them until we finally learn not to get into them in the first place.

I remember feeling a strong chill when I first read Don Juan Matus's statement in one of Castenada's early books that whenever large crowds of people gather, non-organic beings like to hang out and lose themselves amongst the crowds. I spent ages looking around me in underground stations and at football matches trying to pick them out....

Midnight

5th November 2012, 08:09

Modwiz, should I count that as one vote for no angels don't exist?

delfine

5th November 2012, 08:14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYTFHy4I1P0

Midnight

5th November 2012, 08:22

Modwiz, I am not saying the coming election is unimportant. But empires come and they go. Romney would be a giant step back, in my opinion, but Obama has been a major disappointment for people like me. There is a difference between the 2, but it's sad how little that difference is.

Now back to the question. Do you believe in angels?

bram

5th November 2012, 08:23

Modwiz, should I count that as one vote for no angels don't exist?

I think that's the implication..

modwiz

5th November 2012, 08:29

Modwiz, should I count that as one vote for no angels don't exist?

The first word of my post was yes!!!!!!! Whatsamattayou? I said yes. I said yes. I said yes.

I believe in angels. It is the importance of discussing them at the current time that may have added to some extra verbiage on my part.

I count the unseen beings as good friends of mine. Angels being one of many.

@Bram. You too. What part of YES made you think that no was the implication? First word was YES. Any other conclusion you made up in your head.

UPDATE: @ Midnight. Obama sucks. I voted for him. I credit him with taking the scales from my eyes and allowing me to see we only have two crime families. There are no political parties. Once a nation has been built up with the real talent and some restraint by the criminals, they then move in to suck all the resources out of the healthy body. It is part of a cycle. One of many. Perhaps it is now a matter of a large and small cycle ending together that may usher in a new beginning. We have front row seats.

Midnight

5th November 2012, 08:57

Modwidz, I have come to the same conclusion that Obama sucks. The other guy is just a bit worse, but the source of these two is the same. The 2 parties are an illusion. One force behind them. The game is fixed.

Swan

5th November 2012, 09:02

Tony

5th November 2012, 09:11

It is said that an enlightened being can send out 100.000 emanations.

I suppose it will depend if one has the feeling of being watched over.

Tony

modwiz

5th November 2012, 09:22

Modwiz, I have come to the same conclusion that Obama sucks. The other guy is just a bit worse, but the source of these two is the same. The 2 parties are an illusion. One force behind them. The game is fixed.

I agree he is definitely worse. If we could compare their pasts, I think Romney would come out looking a lot worse. For the record, I can get over pasts, but I really wonder if this tiger, (Romney) has changed his stripes or is still regularly eating people for every meal.

Midnight

5th November 2012, 09:31

Romney is a total phony. He says what he thinks will get him elected.

Obama is a big disappointment. Who controls him is the question.

Calz

5th November 2012, 09:37

Modwiz, should I count that as one vote for no angels don't exist?

The first word of my post was yes!!!!!!! Whatsamattayou? I said yes. I said yes. I said yes.

I believe in angels. It is the importance of discussing them at the current time that may have added to some extra verbiage on my part.

I count the unseen beings as good friends of mine. Angels being one of many.

@Bram. You too. What part of YES made you thing that no was the implication? First word was YES. Any other conclusion you made up in your head.

UPDATE: @ Midnight. Obama sucks. I voted for him. I credit him with taking the scales from my eyes and allowing me to see we only have two crime families. There are no political parties. Once a nation has been built up with the real talent and some restraint by the criminals, they then move in to suck all the resources out of the healthy body. It is part of a cycle. One of many. Perhaps it is now a matter of a large and small cycle ending together that may usher in a new beginning. We have front row seats.

I *DO* believe in angels ... I *DO* believe in angels ... I *DO* ....

http://terrellaftermath.com/Cartoon%20Archive/February%20Archive/CowardlyLionObama4WebCR.jpg

modwiz

5th November 2012, 09:38

I credit him with taking the scales from my eyes ...

Yes, I give him credit for that too.

Therefore I find a discussion of the existence of angels to be relevant at this time. Less focus on the matrix, and more on the heart seems to be the way to go.

Does it matter if Romney or Obama wins? Will focusing on the horrendous deeds they might perpertrate, help? IMO - no.

I think it might matter, not enough to vote. Besides voting for either legitimizes the outcome. I will no longer endorse criminals with a vote. The answer is general understanding of the true situation. This may be thousands of years into the future, if my neighbors and family are any indication.

I guess discussing angels is a reasonable conversation. I should remove my party pooping presence from this well intentioned thread. :bolt:

greybeard

5th November 2012, 09:38

I found the book "Power vs Force" by Dr David Hawkins very helpful as the map of consciousness therein set out frequencies/vibration on a descending scale
from God--Angels -humans-down to the lowest form of life.
A scale of love diminishing down to non existent.
God calibrated infinite, Archangels 40,000 Enlightened humans 600. unconditional love 540, peak of intellect 499. and so on.
So from this you can see that angels are somewhat higher vibrational in the scheme of things than humans even enlightened ones.
For all that we are equal in our essence--non better or worse--- however the actions may tell a different story.

Chris

pugwash84

5th November 2012, 10:11

I remember a few years ago when my Mum was having trouble in her house, She was being driven out of her home by bullies in her area, smashing her windows etc. I gave my Mum a crystal angel and she had been looking for a house prior but shortly after I gave her the angel she found the perfect house for her.
It could have been coincidence or it could have been the belief that the angel would help her out or it could have been the love and good intention towards my Mum but she swears it was the angel that helped her. xxx As long as my Mum is happy that's all that matters to me xxx
Sometimes I think the mystery behind something makes it so much more spectacular, maybe if we actually saw angels we wouldn't be so impressed lol. I would sooner them stay a mystery xxx
Also I was once told a real act of love and kindness is doing something for someone and them never knowing anyone or who has helped them. Maybe angels feel the same way xxxx

Wind

5th November 2012, 10:32

Absolutely!

ThePythonicCow

5th November 2012, 10:59

bram

5th November 2012, 12:38

@Bram. You too. What part of YES made you thing that no was the implication? First word was YES. Any other conclusion you made up in your head.

Oops! I thought I heard a note of sarcasm in your response!!

pyrangello

5th November 2012, 13:28

Had quite a few angelic experiences. They are around more than you know.

Mu2143

5th November 2012, 13:43

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GoodETxSG

5th November 2012, 14:02

POST: Do you believe in angels?
It is a cliche.. a BIG ONE NOW... but, there truly "IS" "more in Heaven and Hell than contained in YOUR philosophies"! There has to be so many layers of intelligent beings in various physical and non physical states far above our own as there are far below our own than we could ever sit down and write a Sci Fi series about.

Some think they know it all and I see their "Grapes Pulsing" as they over clock their CPU's to rationalize and fit all of the unknowns to fit into their tiny containers of understanding and truth... which seem huge to our small minds but are actually Mason Jars compared to the full and true consciousness of the Great, Wondrous, and Un-measurable "IS".

But alas we try and we try... and we argue convinced of our own superior importance in the great "IS" of things while we are just a small flicker of through and consciousness that blinks in and out in the full scheme of things as we do not even realize that Time is an illusion and possibly so are we.

Some say we might just be in a computer simulation, some say we are just a momentary day dream of the great "IS"... Some say this is all a way of the "IS" to break its self up into trillions upon trillions of individual units to live, love, feel pain and joy and other ranges of emotions we are not capable of to either beat boredom or to understand what "IS" is... If...IF that was true then we are all ONE, you were/are I, I was/am you... through out oceans of time we would all have just been pieces of the "IS". Yet we treat each other terribly and victimize each other and can only day dream and imagine what "IS" going on in the vastness of what we know of as the universe with beings on other planets staring at the back of the stars we look at at night. They dream too about what "IS", "I" would imagine... and dream.

So, row, row, row your boat gently down the stream. You know the rest of that old nursery rime ditty. We can KNOW NOTHING for sure, we can only have faith. Your faith may be Science (Which IS a religion)... THERE ARE MANY Religions, some lost to history.

SO back finally to the topic of the questions to this forum thread... DO YOU BELIEVE IN ANGELS? The key work is Believe/Faith. I for one do believe in emissaries of divine light (The Great "IS" or "I AM").

So, I only addressed the Positive Polarity of Angels... I am leaving the Negative Polarity to others to discuss... I have seen that influence in my life enough to know its real but do not want to give it any more press than it already gets... as it too is present in many forms both physical and nonphysical.

Now I go back to rowing my boat now and try to find a gentle stream.

truth4me

5th November 2012, 14:14

I believe that Romney and Obama are different sides of the same coin. I do not vote for I believe our votes don't count because they are both owned by the same secert behind the scene source. As far as angels go no.

GoodETxSG

5th November 2012, 15:00

We should all agree NEITHER Romney or Obama are Angels... why they keep coming up on this thread is kind of a head scratcher to me.

Ultima Thule

5th November 2012, 15:02

A good question, the key word propably being "believe". I am quite certain that there is more to life than meets the eye, but do I believe in the archetypal angel, I don´t know. I would love to know more about that.

This thread kind of ties in well with what I have had in mind lately, concerning spirit guides. I myself "see" four of them, all very different with distinct personalities that quite exactly together comprise the facets of my interests in life, perhaps even my personality. I can communicate with them and they are sometimes a blast to "hang around" with, but what I don´t know is whether they are actually other individual spirits that are guiding me or are they just constructs of my mind that act as an interface for me to access sides and levels of me that I need to access and perhaps heal? Does it really matter which way round it is, propably not, as it works very well either way.
However I am very interested in what you people can share about your personal experiences and opinions about angels and so called spirit guides as well?

My answer to the question is in the end YES, I figure. Although I´m not quite sure if we miss something essential about these beings when we think of them as archetypal angels. A spinoff of this thread could try and figure out what are angels?

UT

Rocky_Shorz

5th November 2012, 15:52

My understanding of angels is that they were never human, and that they are apparently doing the work of God. And that they are always with us while we are here in this dangerous world, and that they occasionally intercede on our behalf to save us from physical and non-physical danger.

I understand that angels are a concept that is an element in conventional religion. I'm not a fan of conventional religion, but I'm not ready to outright reject the idea that angels actually exist.

I've also read about spirit guides, who have sometimes experienced human lives, and they also are ready to help us here and in the spirit world.

Are angels the same as spirit guides?
Do angels actually exist?
Does everyone of us have an angel or angels assigned to accompany us through this life?

well I believed they exist since I was very young, moments of driving off cliffs and landing back on the road with no other explanations other than divine intervention.

years later when I was helping in missing children's cases, one day I gave up, curled up in a fetal position, not able to handle any more pain when I felt a soft touch on my shoulder, I opened my eyes and had one bent over me, in the room was spirits of all the children I had helped.

the pain was gone instantly, and they all smiled and said they were there to help...

they disappeared and I went back to the computer to continue the battle to make our children safer...

so yes, I believe...

several times after they reappeared, I believe they were around me because at time I was walking then changed direction and became so dizzy I almost fainted, crossing into their "space" was a headrush beyond description.

in my biggest battle two showed up in 3D one on each side and put a hand on my shoulders, that's when Abaddon first knew I was here and rushed me, when he hit I blacked out waking up in another dimension for the battle.

they didn't help in the battle, they just observed but they stepped in as protection in this dimension, knowing I was not ready to handle the strength of the dark magician, who had been influencing our world.

I'm sure they are still around, the miracles I have witnessed to me show they are real.

some humans are given wings in Nirvana to return, but most cross back as just Spirits to visit and help relatives...

Rocky_Shorz

5th November 2012, 15:59

We should all agree NEITHER Romney or Obama are Angels... why they keep coming up on this thread is kind of a head scratcher to me.

I call Indigos earth angels because of their divine gifts, there are many adult indigos, but they are there to help the children.

what do you call a child that can heal with a touch?

what do you call a child that when they sing, the beauty fills the world around them with peace?

what do you call children that in a thought send images to all the children around them?

what do you call children that know what you are thinking before words cross your lips?

I call them earth angels, and right now, they are all here to help...

we're just along for the ride...

and no, Romney is not an indigo adult, his spirit would have shut him down with some of his actions, that goes against everything God believes.

Obama is still alive... ;)

he has an army of angels around him for protection, so knowing what I know, he has a pretty strong vote behind him.

Earth Angel

5th November 2012, 16:15

do I believe in angels?? but of course!!!! :angel:

GoodETxSG

5th November 2012, 17:09

"Indego's" are a whole different topic... I have two of them growing up under my care now.. but Romney and Obama in the same paragraph with any example of an enlightened triggers my "Gag Reflex"... In my post just above that one I state there are many layers of beings of positive polarity both physical and non physical... Indigo and Crystal Children are in that group IMHO... Being able to say the work KNOW about angels being around a certain "Politician" is a stretch in my life experience... back to "Believe/Faith"...

But both of these "People" we have to vote for are not among the angelic, Indigo or positive realm... Their deeds squash their words. Which are very seductive... But these are flawed PEOPLE and the Do You Believe in Angels Thread kind of clash with their names and profession alone... again IMHO.

Daughter of Time

5th November 2012, 17:28

I'm not a fan of organized religions either. But in spite of how evil they can be, even organized religions have a grain of truth in them.

I do believe in angels because I have seen them on different occasions.

Gabriel walked through my living room sometime over 10 years carrying a large vase of lilies. The experience was not as elating as I might have thought. It was somewhat disturbing. I later realized what the presence meant. It had to do with what I was going through at the time.

In meditation I've been taken by Michael across the universe to a place where he created a little haven for me to go to when I feel frightened. I've seen Michael more than once.

I've seen other angels in the astral world. I do not know who they are but their presence felt definitely angelic as they seem to light the way through the dark and the feeling I had was one of great benevolence.

Mind you, I've had more experiences with demons than with angels, but I believe the thread is about angels, so, yes!

Rocky_Shorz

5th November 2012, 17:35

Indigo's have an instant knowing of people, good or bad, they have no use for money it is meaningless, so for those who judge Romney as successful because of his pile of money, they judge by actions, and know what his always changing political mind is thinking, and who is controlling it.

they do Not want a war to destroy this world, and see Obama as the best option, they have to play by our rules, even though they are far beyond this world.

they quietly control their parents thoughts and actions so even though they don't vote, they do control their parents.

they can surround a person with light, protecting them from outside influence of darkness.

so for those with vision that see Obama is a light worker, they are confusing who the light workers actually are...

I'm trying to translate to English a very difficult topic in a way people will understand.

I can say with their influence, there will be no more wars under Obama and everything Bush started is being wound down.

Rocky_Shorz

5th November 2012, 17:47

If we could compare their pasts, I think Romney would come out looking a lot worse.
That might only be because Obama or his handlers have aggressively scrubbed Obama's past from the public record.

It is difficult to compare against an unknown.

Romney's Dad was born in Mexico, his grandpa and 5 wives were protected when Polygamy became illegal in America, when the war started in Mexico, his family snuck back into America.

So why isn't he more interested in helping those wanting to escape from Mexico into America? Why is he wanting to throw them back across the border and lock the gates?

his family was illegal, and he sold his soul for money, being in bed with some of the worst criminals in this world. He was just a lacky, but completely knew the evil he was doing for money. He was helping fund operations that killed hundreds of thousands, he knew... he was given oil wells and gold mines... he knew...

Obama doesn't have a past of illegal operations, or the Republicans would have made it public...

look what they've come up with in an attempt to discredit him, and none were true.

if there was anything truthful, we would have heard of it...

so yes, this is an election between good and evil

and the angels have already chose sides...

ThePythonicCow

5th November 2012, 17:52

Obama doesn't have a past of illegal operations, or the Republicans would have made it public...
He doesn't have a history of illegal operations :). P.S. -- Correction -- didn't have such a history prior to becoming President.

The DemoPub parties are not all powerful. More powerful players have indeed buried Obama's history, and likely much of Romney's history as well. It's just that Obama, minus the buried part, is more of a blank slate than Romney minus the buried part, because Romney (and his parents) played more public roles for a longer period of time. In other words, the doctored public record for Romney at this point is larger than the similar record was for Obama four years ago.

Tony

5th November 2012, 17:56

Maybe 'angels' are that far away. It is all relative, at any moment you could be an 'angel' to me, and I to someone else..we all have our moments!

Perhaps we are sleeping angels, who knows? Whatever is out there, has to be in here:luv:

Rocky_Shorz

5th November 2012, 17:57

what good is it to hang around psychics if you don't believe anything they have to share... ;)

what terrifies me is thinking of Ryan as President once Romney is removed, that's the same with McCain being born in Panama getting tossed out so Sarah Palin would have been the leader of our country...

our buddy Cheney would have walked in dusted off his desk and got down to business...

a scenario that can't be allowed to happen...

Rocky_Shorz

5th November 2012, 18:00

ThePythonicCow

5th November 2012, 18:01

so yes, this is an election between good and evil

and the angels have already chose sides...
Yup ... and "good" isn't on the ballot :) (in my view at least.)

joeboxerchick4

5th November 2012, 18:03

On the topic of Angels? I have two major angels in my life that I work with.Uriel and Michael... In reality people would call them Angels, a being with wings. I have never seen them have wings. So as I say it...they are Ancestor beings here to help. I make it clear to everyone,we all have our teachings, there are many beings (what we can not see, and is not suppose to exist) somewhat like a fairytale. I say there are good beings like a Angel,and there are dark beings like a Angel.....It depends what we were taught, I do believe in Angels.I also believe they are our ancient ancestors..but only of the light. I believe that we are assighned a protection when we are born into this world. I also believe there are walking earth Angels, so do they exist...yes they do. Spirit guides are a lil diffrent from Angels. They arnt here I think for the same purpose. My guide is a little more like my grandparents...the ones who know to much, has more opinions to teach,than VS. my parents telling me what to do.
I know when you have a balence of understanding you see the world a lil diffrent. I dont know it all,but when it comes to what I deal with and understanding the ones who are here for me,are diffrent for each of us.

Rocky_Shorz

5th November 2012, 18:03

so yes, this is an election between good and evil

and the angels have already chose sides...

Yup ... and "good" isn't on the ballot :) (in my view at least.)

we don't have to be...

isn't 2012 awesome... ;)

jagman

5th November 2012, 18:28

Yes I believe in Angels but i do not pray to them, Only to the Father. I was blessed to be in the presence of an angel once.
I'm quite sure angels are around us and watching most of the time. It was a very dark time in my life. I was contemplating ending my life.I was a broken man,
So I got down on my knees and began praying. I was so sad. I begged the lord to end my misery.
A soft white glow started to iminate through out my house. I could feel the presence of something.
Then I felt a hand being placed on my shoulder has I was praying. A felling shot through my entire body that to this day I cant fully describe. It was a felling of pure love & understanding. I have never been a fan of organized
Religion. Although I do believe in God.

Anchor

5th November 2012, 21:48

Are angels the same as spirit guides?

No

Do angels actually exist?

Yes

Does everyone of us have an angel or angels assigned to accompany us through this life?

With less certainty, but I certainly believe it : yes, plural.

Here is a quote from an interesting session in the L/L Research archive:

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2011/2011_0212.aspx

The hierarchy of the angels of which you have asked us is just as regular and predictable. You have angels at the level of Creator, and you have angels at the level of personal angels. You have everything in between. They carry responsibilities according to their hierarchy. What makes angels unique is that they have never left the vibration of the Creator. They have never departed from the one original Thought of unconditional love. They have never incarnated and they never will. While they have characteristics that can seem to be like a personality, to say that angels have a personality is to anthropomorphize incorrectly.

Angels are love. Angels are love responsible for realms in a hierarchical manner. There are those which work with your sub-Logos, the sun, in creating the archetypal mind and the blueprint for the densities in this particular creation. There are angels who are attracted to vibrations and flock to those whose vibration are beautiful to them. You may not feel beautiful, dear ones, especially when you are struggling, yet to those who vibrate in unconditional love, the qualities of one who is seeking to learn and to serve are irresistible. It takes a great deal of courage to persist in a spiritual preoccupation, and each of you is [very] beautiful to us and to the angels.

There are two basic energies which angels have to offer. One is the simple energy of love itself and the other is a feeling of safety, which could be called a healing energy. Both of those aspects are the resources which angels have to offer. Angels also have connections with the four elements and the four directions so that as you become more and more aware of the correspondences between certain archangels and certain energies, certain powers and certain directions, you become more able to cleanse your habitation or the area around you with the help of the archangels.

There is another class of angels that is indeed angelic and yet [these angels] have had incarnations. Those are the entities who have chosen to be angels but were not angels from the Creator. Yet between incarnations it became apparent to these souls that the work that they wished to do was angelic. And so these entities were incarnated and lived for a short time on this terrestrial ball you call Earth. And then, seemingly far before their time, they were taken. Instead of moving into the healing of the incarnation and the choosing of another incarnation, these particular entities move into the angelic realm. They are able to become angels because of their innocence within incarnation. These little ones are especially fond of those whose hearts are open and are very grateful to rest in that open heart that will accept them.

As this instrument mentioned before the meditation began, it is critical, if you wish to work with angels, to thank them, and to ask them to participate in your life, to be with you and to share their love and their healing and their feeling of safety. If you do not ask them, they cannot break free will. Therefore, it is important to remember each day to thank the angels that are around you and to ask them to continue helping you.

PS: The idea of a thread on angels being diverted into political comment strikes me as cosmically hilarious :)

thunder24

5th November 2012, 23:05

yes.............

Nanoo Nanoo

5th November 2012, 23:13

Imo angels are an artists impression of a blessing. A deliverer of a faithful charge to you.

Kind of like a gods courier network.

N I

ghostrider

6th November 2012, 00:29

I walked away from a head on crash without a scratch broke the windshield out with my head , parchuted from a c-130 once a week for three years, without a hitch, they told me to get out of the army I did and three days later we invaded iraq april 1990 , faced a shotgun touching my chest and it jammed , I could go on forever , I am walking proof they exist ...

Carpathian

6th November 2012, 05:02

I do not believe in organized religion so I am unsure if I believe in the Bible's version of "Angels," but I did have one experience a few years ago that has always stuck in my head as a possible Angelic encounter (which is odd for me because, like I said, I don't necessarily even believe in them). Feel free to interpret it as you wish :-)

It was late at night (around 2am) and I was driving home and getting very sleepy. I knew the roads really well but they were small, narrow country roads way out in the middle of nowhere and they were tough to navigate at night (no streetlamps, dark, and very twisty). I had been fighting to stay awake for almost an hour - I had the windows down, the cold air in my face, the stereo blasting - you name it, I was doing it. It was when I approached a concrete bridge over a small stream that I felt myself begin to drift off...and then something large slammed right into the front of my car and scared the living HECK out of me, and I brought the car to a stop.

There was no one else on the road as far as I could see, and when I got out of the car I found the body of what hit me/I hit lying in the road. It was a pure white owl - really huge, probably over a foot tall (no joke) with gigantic wings - an absolutely beautiful animal. It had either flown right into my car or I hit it when it flew in front of my car, I don't know, but it had certainly got my undivided attention!

I didn't have any problem staying awake for the rest of the drive - the adrenaline rush was more than enough to keep me awake. I learned later that a group of rare white owls had just flown into the area and that bird hunters were traveling from all over to our neck of the woods to see them (I felt SO awful after hearing this). Now, normally it would've been VERY odd to have seen a white owl in my area of the US, but after hearing about the 'traveling rare flock' there was a completely rational reason for them to be here, so why would I think there was something else at work?

I don't know. For some odd reason, I've always felt that there was a purpose for the bird to be there at that time, to cause what happened, and that maybe he saved me from something worse happening. I guess I choose to believe that something good was looking out for me that night, which is a nice and comforting thought.

Anchor

6th November 2012, 05:58

For some odd reason, I've always felt that there was a purpose for the bird to be there at that time, to cause what happened, and that maybe he saved me from something worse happening. I guess I choose to believe that something good was looking out for me that night, which is a nice and comforting thought.

I think you are correct.

Some times when people are closed to the more subtle forms of verbal guidance or via feelings, then perhaps throwing some flora and fauna at a car may be what it takes to get your attention. Not only for that night, but for ever since then.

The owl's sacrifice, while unfortunate, appears to me worthy based on what we now read here.

Give thanks to the owl and forgive yourself! Everything has a reason and a purpose.

It seems to me that you were doubly blessed that night.

Student_Energy_Healer

6th November 2012, 13:25

Do I believe in angels?.... Yes & no.

In the past (and right up till now), I know I have been saved countless times. I know I have received assistance in circumstances I thought were near impossible to overcome.

I do believe that I have a bunch of benevolent light beings who always have been (and forever will be) my closest friends across all life-times, dimensions, universes & omni-verses.

I just don't believe there is a "hierarchy" of Angels personally.

lightning23

26th April 2015, 02:04

Biblical;

There is nothing in the Bible that definitely says when the angels were created. All we know is that it was before mankind, and that they sinned before man sinned. We know this because the Devil tempted Adam and Eve.

However, there is a history of conjecture that put the angel’s creation at the first day. I provide an example quotation here for reference:

When the angels were first created, those creatures of light, they found God as it were laying the foundations of the heavens and earth; whereon all those “sons of God shouted for joy,” Job 38:7. They rejoiced in the manifestation that was made of the power and wisdom of God in the works which they beheld. Hence it is justly supposed that they were made on the first day, when only the foundations of this glorious fabric were laid, Genesis 1:2; wherein they were able to discern the impressions of his wisdom and power. (THE WORKS OF JOHN OWEN VOLUME 20, Page 347)

Note: The idea of 'son of God' simply means those who bear his image. Adam and Eve were by nature the 'sons of God'. They stood in relation of 'sons' to God by the communication of his image and likeness. On the same account the angels are frequently called the 'sons of God'.

Islamic,

Angels are part of the unseen world, but Muslims believe in their existence with certainty because God and His messenger, Muhammad, have provided us with information about them. The angels were created by God in order to worship and obey Him..

“They, (angels) disobey not, the Commands they receive from God, but do that which they are commanded.” (Quran 66:6)

God created angels from light. Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, said, “The angels are created from light,”[1] We have no knowledge of when the angels were created, however, we do know that it was before the creation of humankind. Quran explains that God told the angels of His intention to create a vicegerent on earth. (2:30)

Muslims know that angels are beautiful creations. In Quran 53:6 God describes the angels as dhoo mirrah, this is an Arabic term that renowned Islamic scholars[2] define as, tall and beautiful in appearance. Quran (12:31) also describes Prophet Joseph as beautiful, like a noble angel.

Angels have wings, and can be very large. There is nothing in either the Quran, or the traditions of Prophet Muhammad that indicate that angels are winged babies or have any form of gender.[3] We do know however, that angels are winged and some are extremely large. From the traditions of Prophet Muhammad we know that the angel Gabriel’s great size filled “the space between heaven and earth”[4] and that he had six hundred wings[5].

“...Who made the angels, messengers with wings - two, or three, or four (pairs)...” (Quran 35:1)

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Pre- Abrahamic,
Angels were known as Annunaki, "those who from the heavens to earth came."

They believe in the One Infinite Creator and pay great attention to signs and synchronicities.

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These are the giants of old, known by many different names around the world, Gods, Titans, Olympians, Angels... Etc.

Some obey and some disobey.. Some have good intentions, some don't...

Asalam aleikum!